Whats worse. Deep space or deep sea?
For my part it would be the sea. Space, while incredibly interesting seems so difficult to be a part off but when it comes to deep sea, I think it would involve a lot more the person just thinking those sort of things are in our own planet.
At least things live in the deep sea.
I've been playing a bit of FarSky.
It has a few problems but it seems really fun for what it is.
Fucking terrifying if you're afraid of being underwater, though.
Unfortunately, it's only really sharks and barracudas that do anything,
>you are browsing the same site with people that are this retarded
Deep earth/caves. Dunno how there isn't people that are freaked out by that.
It's true. Assuming you are immortal and don't need to breath, you can eventually reach the surface. If you are stranded in deep space, it might be decades before you even SEE anything but stars, and have no way to correct your course.
Yea, he basically proved mathmatically that black holes actually lose mass. This happens because virtual particles which happen to form on the edge of a black hole come in a matter/antimatter pair. As it turns out the matter particle has enough energy to not get sucked in while the antimatter particle doesnt, this causes the mass of the black hole to slowly dissapear.
They found proof of this happening a while ago actually.
It makes us feel small, doesn't it?
Let me put the fear of
nothinginto you OP.
I find myself looking at these scientific breakthroughs and finding that I came to the conclusions ages ago based purely on common sense and how things work. It's why I sigh at people talking about time travel. Time isn't a thing beyond a concept and entropy, so you can't travel through it. It's scifi.
>get eaten by something bigger than you
>it doesnt chew you, instead swallowing you whole
>get burned alive inside its digestive system with the fear of being eaten by a giant monster
Most scientists do the same, but unfortunately you cant just say shit without proof, thats what religion is.
If you have an idea, you prove it mathmatecially using our existing understanding of physics or develop a new model which fits existing measurements and observations. If you cant prove it at the theorey level then your idea aint shit.
nigga there is literally a fundamental force in physics that will pull you out of space onto the nearest not so creepy rock with absolutely no effort on your part
now you try surfacing AND reaching land with humboldt squids and sharks dragging you back down till you run out of air or implode
You can travel in time you doofus. You do it every time you move relatively to a frame of reference.
But that'd be to be expected for someone who claim that hawking's greatest contribution to theoretical physics is "common sense".
Throwing logic out the window and assuming you could breathe in space and the ocean long enough before your death.
It'd be a lot more scary to slowly float down until you get fucked by a shark or get deep enough and not being able to see what's biting at you.
With space, it'd just be one lonely trip until you hit an asteroid field or the nearest gravity pull and die that way.
Given the means, I'd take space over the ocean in a heart-beat.
there's no air resistance in space, the slightest movement on your part becomes endless angular velocity
you would be rapidly spinning uncontrollably on all 3 axes until you starved to death (probably from puking your guts out for days)
space death would be the worst death
man this movie disappointed me. It built up so damn well the whole time, and I was expecting a huggeee payoff but it was just so damn underwhelming. It was okay, I'd give it a 6/10
I'm not saying the complex concepts are common sense. I'm saying that the basics are. I respect the hell out of Professor Hawking and his work.
Because there is no gravity, the things that control balance in your ears wouldn't be doing anything. As such you wouldn't even tell you were spinning around except for the stars moving, and that wouldn't be enough you to puke your guts.
Everything else would still be shitty.
>we live in a galaxy with potentially billions of planets, any of them could harbor life.
>Thats only in this galaxy alone, god only knows what could live in Andromeda.
What was BEFORE the big bang?
The universe is constantly expanding and it's not slowing down like previously thought, but is actually expanding.
This shows us that one possibility is "the big bang".
What was before the big bang? we know that the universe is 13.7 billion years old, but what about 14 billion years ago?
If multiverses are true, did our universe emerge out of another universe 13.7 billion years ago? What universe did we expand out of?
What was the original universe?
assuming you're somehow going to withstand vacuum of space and breathe underwater and live long enough for something to kill you instead of dying from starvation/dehydration
>either get hit by asteroid or burn up in somethings atmosphere
>can't see the shit trying to eat you
>magnitude of the pressure actually makes swimming up harder
space any day
>Please, tell me how black holes loosing mass is common sense. I'll be waiting.
For something to take action, it has to expend energy. And something having infinite energy is illogical. So therefore black holes must lose mass as they expend energy.
~20 minutes of pre-movie interviews
~30 minutes of "meeting the trope cast and their interaction
~20 minutes of down-hill
~10 minutes of "oh fuck here we go"
There's the movie, don't waste your time.
I have no fucking picture suited for your retarded post, so here, have a Ridley
Please don't reproduce
Dont forget about micro impacts in space
Basically imagine objects the size of a grain of sand traveling fast enough to go through your suit, through you, and then out the other side of your suit. The ISS actually has an additional layer of protection so that these impacts are broken up before they penetrate any of the crucial structural layers.
i like that one, read it a while ago
Fucking found it. http://www.diluvion.com
fuck, this answer actually much much more depressing than the usual "nothing"
the crunch theory has been disproven due to the universe expanding and accelerating, not expanding and slowing down.
There is antimatter and an antiforce pulling shit apart. They're both called anti because we dont know wtf they are yet.
>We are in a constant cycle of bang crunch bang
Imagine if every iteration of the universe is exactly the same, and we're just stuck in a never ending cycle, living our lives over and over again...
How many times this has happened before.
I was disappointed it had a build-up at all. It was the debacle that was Sunshine all over again.
What's wrong with a science-fiction movie that's just about the science? Just show me some ooh and aah and wow and be done with it. There doesn't need to always be a fucking villain and threat.
it's not possible to create something out of nothing, thus your statement is a flawed one.
Unless there is a god, then there has always been something. If there is no god, then there is no beginning of time.
Space, full stop.
>It hurts knowing how massive everything is.
When you think about how massive everything is seriously, I find there are two mindsets one can take.
1. Fuck it. Everything's pointless.
2. We need to get our shit together and own this bitch. Manifest destiny, motherfucker.
I am of the second mindset. I feel humanity has the potential to rise and change to become something that can control and shape the universe as it exists. We just need to get our shit together.
You become a god and create your own universe!
Then, when someone dies in your universe, they become a god and create their own universe!
Right now, we're all just characters living in someone else's universe!
In all honesty, my universe is gonna be like a bad pre-teen fanfiction where everyone has superpowers and people are either fighting or fucking 24/7.
Still, it beats whatever universe God McFuckup made for all of us. Seriously, this is the shittiest universe ever. I can't imagine what his universe must have been like for him to create -this-.
>tfw as far as anyone can tell i have quantum immortality and there is no way to prove this theory wrong unless i die
Do you even plot? Man that'd be such a boring movie if there was no crescendo in ANYTHING. Whether it be drama, danger or action.
Even documentarys have drama and danger put in to keep the audience engaged.
You're essentially asking for a fake documentary based on real science where essentially they just use the mission planner as the plot.
Talk about snooze
We're wired for exploration regardless. We just really need to stop sinking billions into god-forsaken shit holes and give NASA more money with regulations so they don't blow it on stupid shit.
Couldn't even get 5 seconds in.
Two of my worst fears combined.
deep sea is known to be finite. space, on the other hand..
It only gets better.
Even if the suit is pressure-resistant, your body within the suit is subject to the gas giant's gravitational pull.
In any event, your organs, skin, and blood begin to merge together as a fleshy, skeleton pancake within your suit.
i respect science and scientist a lot but i honestly don't think the answer for the question about the origins of life and the universe gonna be definitive anytime soon.
and that is ok too because it will drive us harder to try and understand things,
not understand things and trying to understand it is much better than just saying some magic dude did it all like religion
Because no one wants to model the inside of your mothers vagina or what horrors lurk within.
deep space for sure
you fuckers saw Event Horizon, that shit fucked me up way more than pussy ass fuckin Jaws did.
just think, by the time we have that kind of technology to explore space, we'll be on the cutting edge of extrateresstrial and possibly even trans-dimensional contact. and the universe is infinite....the ocean isn't
Your post didn't deserve a fucking argumentation since it came from a kid who probably didn't even get a physics class in high school, but there
>For something to take action, it has to expend energy
What kind of action are you speaking of? "Pulling shit towards it?" That shit doesn't require energy to be spent/transformed (not on the side of the massive object anyway. Energy on the side of the object getting attracted is changed from potential to kinetic energy, but let's not get fancy). A black hole doesn't need to spend energy to attract shit. It only requires energy to be there and stay there under the form of mass. a shit ton of mass. The fucking Earth pulls your fat momma's ass every day of her life and yet it doesn't spend a fucking joule of energy to do it every fucking second of her existence. It just does it because the Earth is massive. That's a property of mass.
>And something having infinite energy is illogical.
What the fuck does that even mean? Why are you implying that a black hole would have, or have to spend, infinite energy? Maybe were you trying to say that, hypothetically, a black hole sucking the entire universe would have to be made of infinite energy, but guess what, faglord, the universe is made of a finite amount of matter and energy, even if it sucked every god damn thing, it wouldn't be of infinite energy.
>playing Space Engine
>flying through billions and billions of galaxies at 100 megaparsec / sec
>surrounded by nothingness
>the end of the universe.
Neither should you.
The "crunch" has been disproven years ago. The only way it would happen is if the universe cant expand anymore due to boundries thus hit that "wall" and starts accelerating towards a common point due to gravity.
This is not likely.
A multiverse theory is way more plausible.
earth is finite, sea is finite
universe = infinite.
>seeing that shit in the sky
I'd probably kill myself first.
here is a pic of one of saturn pole,it give me the same weird feeling
>There is antimatter and an antiforce pulling shit apart. They're both called anti because we dont know wtf they are yet.
I'm talking about this part. It sounds like a retard wrote it.
I'll never understand as to why this is the generally accepted theory.
It makes no fucking sense. Personally, as a deist, there's no possible way the universe spawned from 'nothing'. Something started all of this. Whether it be a magical sky god or something else.
I like to think the 'M' theory has a lot to do with it. That the plane of existence the membranes exist on, something created them.
Unless the 'M' theory was disproved and I never heard about it.
Unless we can make some crazy as fuck scientific discoveries to prevent the head death of the universe, or find a way to recreate artificial living conditions with some kind of crazy renewable energy system that collects dispersed heat and reuses it perfectly.
Hard to say it's impossible when life in the universe has billions of years to figure it out.
>There are actually other intelligence species
>They are trying to reach out and find us just as we try to find them
>They aren't even in our universe
>They're in a universe 1,000,000,000,000^1,000,000,000,000 universe-breadths away
Most of them agree on the big bang due to ehat we can observe. They dont agree on what came before because it is not something we can observe.
Logic says you cant create something out of nothing, thus it is not what happened (unless there is a god), so our universe has always been or else we're a part of something bigger like a multiverse (or a 4d plane that perceive to be 3d)
you do realize that that's clearly part of that planet's infrastructure right?
built into that city
why would it be hostile?
it probably regulates the planets weather and averts natural disasters, and provides power world wide
the problem with the whole 'something NEEDED to create X" theory is that something then needed to create Y, that created X, or at least account for Y's existence
Its shallow thinking and doesnt help anybody
THAT fucking planet in Outer Wilds.
I once heard that the only reason human bodies age beyond adulthood is because we're biologically programmed to do so.
Probably a load of bullshit, but it seemed interesting. What if we found a way to bypass that? Bam, natural, genuine immortality?
>After all our culture, scientific advancement, arts, technology we are still as delicate as a toothpick in the grand scheme of things
Fuck we really need to get on that spacetravel shit because I'm sure this crippling insecurity will kill me long before any astrological events will kill any human.
Eventually it would get kind of strange, but not if you take the multiple dimension theory in hand.
At some point one of the 'degrees of movement' will be time or some shit. It would eventually turn into something us, three dimensional creatures, could never, ever comprehend.
I'll make note of it, was it part of the in to the universe series he did?
im glad i decided to open that gif
>mfw things went better than expected
Listen to Jupiter
That's why you have to incorporate something new every year.
The first year it's just a fuck fest. The next year it has video games. Then the next year it has chocolate cake, next year it has a bouncy castle.
It would win multiple party of the year awards every year and no one could stop us
Imagine if this is true.
Like, when you're dying, your brain starts shooting off signals crazy fast and time just stops for you, as in you're living forever in the moment before your death.
Then you start to create shit, and after what you perceive as billions of years, some of that shit starts to have minds of its own.
Then the heat death of the universe you created is your own death.
Theres a theory that immortality could be a thing if we harvest our fresh new-born cells and find a way to cultivate and multiply them. So we could in essence keep replacing the old and dying cells for Q.I
Whenever you see pictures of black holes "eating" matter, why does it always form into a disk? Surely the gravitational pull would be equal 360 degrees so for a brief time a black hole would technically turn into sphere of matter.
If we can make it that long, who knows what form we will have taken, or what technology we will have by that point. Hell, look at how much technology has advanced in the last century alone. If mankind manages to survive until the heat death of the universe, I'd imagine we'll have some kind of technology to create a new universe, jump into that, and start all over again.
this post with that image cracked me up more then it should have
>Inhabitant of superpower world where everyone lives out their own personal fantasy
>Creates a world where basically nothing good exists and the only deviation from the norm is a slightly worse state than you were already in.
Sounds like a fitting polar opposite. It's fitting in regards to 'grass is greener on the other side' mentality.
>>theres a planet just like earth but with slightly differences in everything
>There's an alt-Earth where Kennedy wasn't assassinated and a co-operative US/Soviet Moon Base was constructed.
why do you assume its alive or eats?
its warped space time, and isn't destroying the planet it itself is a part of
sure its surreal but your not even looking at what it is doing
>mfw Jupiter turn
>Why is there no spooky scary deep sea game where you try to loot treasure from derilect wrecks while sea serpents, dinosaurs, giant sharks, and big fishies try to eat your fleshy face?
You just described Deep Fighter for the Dreamcast.
There would be no point to living if death could be ignored, otherwise it would mean endlessly fooling around for self-satisfaction.
When you got nothing to lose and everything is at your hand to archive, everything becomes pretty pointless.
>Look out your window
What do you do?
But if there are odds for something to occur again, no matter how small, repeat an event infinite times and it will happen again, even if there are a near infinite number of universes between the repeating events.
Creatures like this are literally impossible
Like, it has to do with the amount of calories it has to have to sustain itself or some shit, but that it would be physically impossible for something like that behemoth to exist
Question why my city block is apparently floating in the middle of the Ocean, since there's no way for a whale that size to be so close to shore, let alone jump through the air like that so close to shore.
science fiction novels are stupid and pointless amirite?
OR collusion caused by gravitational clusters outways the rate of acceleration due to dark energy.
This is all theoretical sciencefaggotry though, so nothing has been disproven or proven at this point
>the Moon Landing photos look exactly like this
>mfw there is actually some fuck huge alien thing near the earth
Daily reminder that Jupiter is the best planet and savoir of the Solar system and that Uranus fags can get fucked.
We don't know what the force or the matter is yet, we just know that they are there. And with our current theories on gravity, there are stars that we know of that shouldn't exist.
We know very little, yet think about how far we have come. It is incredibly arrogant and stupid to think we know it all when we have barely scratched the surface.
When I dropped off of the ship in OuterWilds and lost it temporarily I almost began to panic.
Space is terrifying. But at least you know there is nothing that can survive it unlike in the sea. But that in itself is terrifying as you are absolutely alone.
Go fuck yourself.
There must be like 20 different documentaries to choose from and the fact that you're not even dead on sure it's Steven Hawking is like saying "go find this needle in a haystack"
This is one of the times where you at least give a title you faggot.
what an odd looking mountain/rock outcrop.
Assuming humanity survives for the next few thousand years, that's going to be inevitable.
Hell, we are very close to immortality, such as brains in jars or conscious transferring etc. We'll either get to it in our lifetimes, or the children / grandchildren will get to it.
How fucking horrifying would it be if you were just short of that shit though?
the suggester of this idea knew about
so actually suggested smaller satellites to cover all the light produced, each plate being much smaller separate and in solar orbits
Does /v/ believe in Aliens?
I do, I mean, Zombies always had the movies to get recognized. Aliens were just kinda of a thing that happened after Roswell, no movies or other pop culture type stuff were it's lifting point.
what are the odds of aliens NOT existing?
there are infinite amount of galaxies with an infinite amount of solar systems, thinking that not a single one of them can sustain life is stupid
>there are people who think we know more about space than the deep seas of Earth
All the observing in the world would still only be enough to see a tiny fraction of all that's possible to see and discover outside our Solar System. How many exoplanets have we discovered? About 100 or so? Out of the possible millions?
I think it's as painful as the passionate astronauts that are held back by our lack of decent space travel. Or that we haven't cracked worm-holes yet even though we have pre-alpha evidence of them.
Yes. But I think aliens are either so advanced that they could care less about us or they reached a point where they turned themselves into pure energy/ can somehow connect to some giant universal physic connection. A telepathic internet if you would Frank.
existing, sure, like you just said thinking that not a single one of them can sustain life is stupid
but having some kind of civilization and advance technology to visit us, far far less likely
>not trusting a skeleton
Skeletons are bros. All they want to do is hide in confined spaces and throw a killer surprise party for the people that find them. They basically just want to play hide and seek.
Big Bang theory doesn't say that "nothing became everything," if anything that's what deists believe, except it's "God made nothing become everything." Big Bang theory states that all the matter and energy currently in the universe was condensed into a small pinpoint and then suddenly exploded 16 billion years ago. It states that, as matter cannot be created or destroyed, all that matter was there for all of the eternity before the Big Bang.
>How fucking horrifying would it be if you were just short of that shit though?
Feels great, honestly. Fuck immortality. Life sucks as it is, I don't want to put up with this shit forever.
I think you're being the close minded one. I don't think you realize how ridiculous that sounds. There's a fucking snot icicle looking creature that drips sulfuric acid and feeds off methane. That is less ridiculous than what you just said.
>It's fucking empty
>Nothing actually threatens to come up behind you and eat you because there's fucking nothing
>When there is fucking something it's really fucking far away
>Everything wants to fuck you up and is mere meters away
Why the fuck would deep space be spookier than deep sea?
Nothing scarier than knowing that relative to just this galaxy, let alone the trillion others that make up the universe, humanity and this earth is just a spec and nothing that happens here matters.
How about this
>You see nothing but black
>You can't feel anything
>You can't even hear your own thoughts
>But you know you exist, somehow
>Millions of years pass
>You've already forgotten your previous life, can't remember your own voice
>You've pretty much gone insane at this point
>Your insanity gives you massive clarity
>But this clarity is only at it's peak a few billion years later
>Fast forward a billion years
>The clarity is now at it's peak
>You can now create thought from literally nothing
>You can now make the universe
>You are now God of the universe you've created
>Means that every dead person/thing is a God of their own universe
>We're the creations of a dead insane organism
>God is insane
I know it's impossible but that's basically what this universe is, impossible.
>there are infinite amount of galaxies with an infinite amount of solar systems, thinking that not a single one of them can sustain life is stupid
Yes, but I think it's hard to make contact.
Maybe we could've picked up on alien transmissions a few thousand years ago when we couldn't get them.
Since then they got wiped out.