ITT: Villains who were right

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They're villains for a reason, anon.

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>>253052729
inb4 niggers.

>>253052823
Inb4 any mgs villain. They were all fools with major flaws.

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He was your bro all along

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>>253052729
The actually fight with Kreia was so disappointing.

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All he wanted her to do was take her damn clothes off. Is that so evil?

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10/10 would S.Link with

>>253054652
Not half as disappointing as Nihilus

>>253054224
Praise the moon!

>>253053563
I actually liked this arch

>>253052729
Villains who were trying to save other people.

>>253054652
what was the last western game that had a good boss fight

>>253054224
>>>/mlp/

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PRESIDENT GEORGE SEARS

SOLIDUS SNAKE

>>253054224
Lunaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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>>253054224
Or it can survive off both princess being normal, instead you have one autist who has 50,000 waifufags because, "She's just like me, so quirky and randum and autistics!"

>>253053563
is that shit over yet? Has anyone remotely likable died yet? will the ride ever end?

>>253054224
HELP ELIMINATE THE HORSEFUCKER THREAT
REPORT ALL BRONY ACTIVITIES TO YOU LOCAL MOD OR JANITOR
DO NOT, IN ANY WAY, ASSIST THE BRONY CAUSE OR SYMPATHISE WITH THEIR IDEALS
CONSPIRING WITH BRONIES IS PUNISHABLE BY UP TO 4 DAYS OF BANISHMENT
ONLY YOU CAN MAKE 4CHAN A HORSEFUCKERLESS PLACE

>>253054416
i killed him just cuz i wanted a final boss fight

>3 lightsabers floating around her

that looks a little dangerous

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>>253052729
>armstrong
>villain
he was right tho
>>253058670
>tfw no Rock Lee show

>>253056040
>arch

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He just wanted to forge a world of balance and tolerance. And flowing silver hair.

>>253058670
I'm going to catch up on it tomorrow at work. I haven't read it in years.

>>253052729
>mandalorians will die out with Jango

I thought you said villains who were right.

>>253052729
why dont they make armour out of lightsaber

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If Kreia hated the Force so much, why did she use it?

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He was right but holy shit what a great final boss

>>253059873
Hitler hated jews but used them for labor. We use things we hate if it benefits us.

>>253059873
don't say things like that it's weird

>>253059767
Fund it

>>253059873
She literally answers this exact question.

Did you even play the game, Frodo?

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Worthwhile. He did good in the end.

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>>253060031
It's been a long time since I played it, admittedly.

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>>253060072
Frodo wasn't born for another 3000 years idiot.

>>253053039
He can't be right or wrong though, his actions are based purely on a selfish ideal for himself.

He sacrificed all he ever loved in a moment of weakness to attain incredible power, just for the sole reason of building a kingdom. He never tries to argue what's right or wrong about it, he just does it.

Contrasting with say, Kreia in the OP, who argues that the Force is too intrusive in the natural order of the universe and seeks to destroy it for that reason.

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MORDEN DID NOTHING WRONG

>>253059579
>thinking Boba was a mandalorian before the EU
>thinking the EU is canon

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>>253053563
Finally a man of taste. And not someone who is all over the Uchiha dick.

I'm still mad they killed his ass off like that.

>>253060663
It was canon up until April

>>253061038
The EU was never canon. It was fabrication that made Lucas money.

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>>253060320
>"I use it as I would use a poison, and in the hopes of understanding it, I will learn the way to kill it. But perhaps these are the excuses of an old woman who has grown to rely on a thing she despises."

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Technecally, he was the villain for the first half of NWN 2. He was right, though, and he did what he had to do many years before.

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He did all he did just to save his daughteru, just like you

>>253059885
It really felt like a final battle with both parties going all out and the cheer size of the unite morphs

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>>253052729
ASHNARD DID NOTHING WRONG

>>253061226
And she's still a horrible Sith Lord who tried to remove a fundamental portion of the universe's inner workings because--surprise surprise--power corrupts!

>>253061215
There were canon tiers before then. EU sources were considered official canon unless the movies or The Clone Wars contradicted them

>>253061678
>taking TOR as canon

If they're so right, why did they die?

Checkmate, antagonist sympathizers.

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>>253061678
>fundamental portion of the universe's inner workings

It wasn't fundamental for the Exile.

>>253061708
Oh please. By that logic TFU was fucking canon.

>>253061816
Wait, what?

The Force is a fundamental part of the Star Wars universe. Both Jedi and Sith use it, and can be corrupted into being destructive. The thing is, it's NOT THE FORCE'S FAULT. It's like endeavoring to remove magnetism from our universe because people use electronics to troll people online.

>>253062087
The Exile was an amazing miracle, but not the kind of thing you should base your "I'm going to destabilize the entire galaxy AT LEAST" plans.

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>>253058670
He took a Shounen Jump, /v/.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-11-02/newspaper/teen-commits-suicide-after-seeing-naruto-character-die

;.;

>>253062112
sadly, it was

>>253062213
It wasnt fundamental for the Yuuzhan Vong either

>>253062247
I never understood teh tail in these ZoE suits

>>253062247
how was that guy not wrong?

>>253052729
>Wants to destroy the Force
That's not right?

>>253062404
because it looks cool. They had stylized robots after all.

>>253062247

His boss fight was rad.

Other than that, he was pretty fucking wrong.

>>253062394
>without the force the Vietcon- im sorry the Yuuzhan Vong would have won
Checkmate kreia fags

>>253062394
Or the mandaolrians.

>>253062213
I thought Kreia believed the opposite, that the force actually has an effect on your mind and forces you down one path or the other if you use it like that to much?

>>253062404

The same reason all the Orbital Frames have penises.

The same reason REX roars.

The same reason Gekkos moo.

>>253062394
Or the Ysalamari. Just because they're not directly affected by it doesn't mean that it's okay to fucking DESTROY THE FORCE, because then you'll be left with The Exile, the Ysalamari, the Yuuzhan Vong, and rapidly falling Cortosis prices.

>>253061516
I'm really glad I intentionally kept myself in the dark about the game. Easily one of Platinum's best games.

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not /v/ but still

>>253062668
Then the proper solution is moderation, like what the New Republic and Luke Skywalker did, instead of severing everyone's connection to The Force and causing all the problems related to that.

>>253062798
aww shit is he in the new movies??

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>>253052729
He did nothing wrong.

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>Wipe out the super mutants and anyone with irredeemable genetics
>Restore America to its former glory
>Continue the advancement of science and technology

Why was he the bad guy?

>>253062250
How? How the fuck did rebellion get away with kid napping Vader? Why hasn't the emperor executed Vader for resurrecting and losing a fight to the same guy twice?

>>253062540
KOTOR 2 was basically Chris Avalon's list of things he didn't like about Star Wars.

>>253062798
literally who

>>253062668
Basically, yeah. Kreia believed that the Force had some inscrutable will that would occasionally trigger meaningless wars and tragedies in an attempt to achieve "balance".

>>253062885
>aww shit is he in the new movies??
>>253063206
>literally who

Ras Al Ghul from Batman Begins

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>>253062959

>>253062849
I don't think hew was even serious about the whole "kill the force through the Exile" plan. She was lying all through the rest of the game, why would she stop now?

I think she was just trying to build up the Exile some more, one final bit of training in Sith tradition.

>>253063353
well shit, looked like he was wearing a black jedi robe
>TFW i found out about baneposting for the first time and heard his voice thinking it was some sort of memedub not actually from the movie

>>253052729
Kreia is one of the great Star Wars characters, but she'll never get her due because she was included in KOTOR II.

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You dont worry about the ants you crush beneath your feet as you walk. You dont consider the death of a cockroach a loss of intelligent life.

Why should he.

>>253063697
Well, because humans aren't cockroaches OR ants.

>>253063646
But she did get her due. After all, she was proven wrong and got stabbed to death by her own disciple. What, did you want the Exile to torture her or something?

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>>253063697
IMPRESSIVE

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He just wanted to know why Bane wore the mask.

>>253063568
I probably should have been more clear

>>253063460
I think more than anything Kreia just wanted to be right. She wanted the Exile to thrive and survive as a proof of concept that life didn't actually need the Force. It's why she made it such a big deal to parade him around in front of the Jedi Council before she Force-Fucked them to death.

Everything she did was to protect the Exile, since the Exile was the culmination of all her teachings realized in a single student.

>crazy old bitch that mouthpieced for avallone the entire game

yeah no

>>253059873
She's a hypocrite

>>253063697
Maybe because they aren't intelligent, sentient life, Mr. Edgy McEdge

>>253064159
>before she Force-Fucked them to death.
Didn't Kreia remove the force out of the jedi master?

>>253052729
pic unrelated

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They may not have gone about their business in the nicest manner, but in the end, they were still right, and were crucial players in saving the world.

>>253064243
She's the Caesar of the Star Wars Universe, complete with a terminal disease.
That terminal disease is "fucked with he player character.

>>253062087
>It wasn't fundamental for the Exile.
Bullshit it wasn't, I used that shit for everything.

>>253062112
Actually TFU was an even higher tier of canon. Since Lucas worked on it personally he put it up there with the movies.

>the cut robot planet could have been an interesting examination of how things could function completely without the force
>was cut
>mod that restores it is instead a painful slog through a boring planet with bad voice actors that adds absolutely nothing

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>>253063697
BACK TO FORMULA

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>>253065060
Disney buying Star Wars was the best thing to ever happen to the franchise

>>253063274
It does seem to work this way. Dark side of the force is all but eliminated and the most powerful Sith Lord ever is born- Darth Sidious. The Force is self-balancing by any means necessary. It's a true neutral force and Kreia hated its determinism.

I realize nothing Darth Sidious did seemed that powerful compared to a bunch of EU bullshit, but if it's said repeatedly in the movies then it takes massive precedence over that faggotry.

>>253065492
If by EU mechanics you mean the overpowered stuff in the videogames, that stuff is fluffed up to make gameplay more interesting. Gameplay isn't canon.

>>253063697
Are you in or are you out?

>>253065492
If anything, Episode 3 and the extermination of the Jedi pretty much proves Kreia's point that the force seeks to balance itself out. There's a shitton of Jedi and only two Sith Lords at the start of the film, and at the end, Yoda and Obi-Wan are the two remaining Jedi to balance out Sidious and Vader.

>>253065060
I'm going to be sick

>>253066004
It's you who's out, Kreia.

Out of your mind.

>>253065986
By EU mechanics, he means shit like Darth Bane's thought bomb.

And Palpatine was able to create fleet-destroying force storms in Dark Empire

>>253063001
Because muh boy scouts or some shit like that. Maybe it's a racial message or something, either way, Long Live President Eden.

>>253065060
>Lucas wants SW super hero game
>Same time iron man comes out
>Could have made Wookie rage or mandalorian game
>Make Gary sue in space
I can't wait for EA to make this much worse

>>253066039
Exactly, then the last jedi Luke has all the power of the light side of the force behind him being the last jedi and beats people with 500 times his experience

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Viridi did nothing wrong.

>>253063891
You can throw her into the Malachor Core, that's pretty good.

>>253066039
Actually it seems like she can't forsee anything part the prequels era.

>>253055334
Marche was wrong, but mewt was still a huge faggot

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He just wanted everyone to be happy.

>>253052729
>Kreia
>Villain

>>253059001
I cried after I beat it and noticed that the battle music was named Good Night Mom.

>people think Palpatine was a bad guy

ishiggy diggy

>>253067775
He blew up a planet to prove a point. That's about as evil as you can get

>>253067861
The planet was obviously evil

>>253067861
>>253067861
>implying he didnt create the Galactic Empire to protect the Galaxy from a Yuuzhan Vong invasion

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Anyone who disagrees is a moron

>>253068505
>implying anyone knows what the fuck you're talking about

>>253068646
fucking plebs

>>253059384
He was right at first but then just went Crazy.

But if the KHIII teaser is anything to go buy, it might have been the knowledge that the Light will be defeated at the graveyard that made him go crazy.

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Sindri Myr

>>253068505
>Implying the implication that Palpatine followed Revan's footsteps
>implying Palpatine knew about the Yuuzhan Vong whatsoever

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Sif was just protecting his friend grave, hes is a better "person" than the player1

>>253068573
Right about what, exactly? His plans utterly failed.

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All of his explanations for why he did what he did made perfect sense. If he were just a normal guy who wanted revenge, he wouldn't really be evil at all.

>>253062798
If it were comic book Gotham I'd agree with you. That place should be fucking destroyed. It's fucking ridiculous

Nolans Batman is basically just Chicago with a higher crime rate. Blowing the whole thing up is a nonsensical plot

>>253068085
from his point of view.

>>253069750

Sif wouldn't even be considered a villain. He wouldn't even fit the role of antagonist.

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>>253070860
Get off my lawn you clown

>>253053039
his actions are selfish and therefore wrong. and he is a dumb cunt.

>>253058670
Neji died saving Hinata.

>>253076782

You're just mad he was a better final fight than you while taking half as long, Alba.

>>253062213
>NOT THE FORCE'S FAULT

But that's the complete opposite of the point she was trying to make. The Light and Dark sides of the force clash endlessly and the galaxy as a while suffers because of it.
Whenever one side starts to lose the force fixes the balance so that the fight can continue.

Force users don't fight because of a difference in ideology or interests. They fight because the force GUIDES them to do so. Even force users who try to avoid it and stay neutral eventually fall to one extremity or the other if let the force guide them.

It's like an angry god that starts wars for shits and giggles

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>>253078558
What the fuck did you just say about me you little bitch?

I'll have you know I have over 300 confirmed extraterritorial rights.

>>253063001

Because the surviving "pure humans" are also mutants.

The mutation being able to survive a radiated hell hole slightly better than the standard measure of humans when it was logged in its database.

>>253068573
Did nothing wrong? Betrays Grey Wardens, assuming they're dicks when they're not.

No, fuck this guy

>>253080145
>assuming they're dicks when they're not.
well in the new one they seemed like dicks

>>253080353
Grey Wardens: When we light beacon, come help
Loghain: K
GRey Wardens: *light beacoN*
Loghain: FUCK THAT *runs away*

>>253052729
>Crazy bitch.
>Right.

Haha, no. I'm happy I killed her.

>>253065564
don't remind me ;_;

>>253078915
She's wrong though. Just because the force is a tool that people use, and there are two distinct ideologies behind it that tend to be the two sides in most conflicts doesn't mean that the force is causing those conflicts. People fight in the real world all the time, and they would in Star Wars too, even without the force. It's the nature of sentient beings to hold beliefs and then fight others who hold conflicting beliefs.

Peace vs. Passion is a fight so ingrained in the consciousness of the people in the Star Wars that they would still fight over it even if the force was gone.

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>>253059001
If she's a nigh all powerful goddess with the power of creation how could it possible have been that difficult for her to return to space? I mean fuck Tiamat was in another god damn dimension, surely a spaceship is nothing compared to that shit.

>>253058670
It's almost over. Infinite Tsukuyomi is in effect, the true true big bad is out and previous big bads are getting redemptions.

>>253084582
Except it's not going to end.
Hell, Kishimoto has to eat.

>>253052729
Daily reminder that Kreia is Master Kae, Handmaiden's mother.

>>253060597
and he raped Casca because? Yeah great guy.

>>253062213
>I'm going to destabilize the entire galaxy AT LEAST
The force is at the root of nearly every conflict in the entire SW universe, please fuck off Lucas.

>>253088459
There are people who doubt that?

>>253055334
>STOP HAVING FUN GUYS
/v/ incarnate.

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>>253052823
>liquid
>not Solidus