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Will it be good, or shit?

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Will it be good, or shit?
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>>253014761
>fan made
>have the balls to call it 4
I'm expecting total shit.
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>>253014761
Shit.
Its completely unoriginal and lacks the charm that the actual games had by simply copying the style and mechanics.
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>>253014761
Eurgh. The only thing that bothers me about it is that they named it Mother 4.
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Considering how bad is the Mother fanbase, it'll be shit.
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Doesn't even matter. The fact it's called Mother 4 and that it's not official will turn everyone off.
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I give everything new the benefit of the doubt. I think it's too early to say right now. However, the music they have thus far sounds immensely Mother-ish and it even looks like it could be a continuation of the franchise.

My hopes are high, but I'm prepared to have them dashed as well.
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I guess I'll be the first to declare mid-level hype for it, then.

It looks a'ight and is free, so no complaints.

that said i've been waiting for 3 years fucking come on now
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OP, if you're not trying to bait, why did you post a five year old picture? It doesn't even look like that anymore.

>that faggy logo
>chase
>those horrid sprites
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>>253014761
I'm optimistic. But, the thing is that Mother series have a huge "charm" component, and I don't know if the developer can reach the high standard of the series. This wouldn't be a significant problem if he didn't name it Mother 4.
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>I'm going to write something that mimics or actually rivals the skill of Itoi
The audacity
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So when is Nintendo going to C'nD this shit?
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>>253017628
Why do people hold Itoi's writing skill to such a high regard? It's good, but it's not something you can write home about.
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>>253017435
I suspect the developer is confident that he can recreate that charm. I doubt he would have labeled it as a sequel were he not confident.

However, it would help if people went into with an open mind, but since people are probably going to go in assuming it'll be shit, they're going to stick to that mindset and the whole thing will likely receive unnecessary hate including a lack of actual criticism.
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>spic protag
shit.
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well since the developers viraled it on /v/ its going to be horrible
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Speaking off, how did that fan made Chrono Trigger sequel turn out?
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>>253017860
Then don't call it mother 4, you could of easily said "Heaviy based on" or "Inspired by" and STILL ride the coattails of the earthbound series.
Calling it 4 is outright ballsy and egotistical.
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>>253017790
>So when is Nintendo going to C'nD this shit?
They won't. Itoi said people can do whatever they want with the franchise because he was done after Mother 3. And technically, there's nothing directly related to Nintendo except the name "Mother"
Everything else is original content, including 98% of the music.
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I just started playing Mother 3 (I already know the story so you niggers can't spoil it for me) and it's absolutely amazing. By far the most amazing thing is the music though.
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>>253017951
except they haven't. stop blindly listening to what you hear.
where does this myth keep coming from?
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>>253018104
Won't they legally have to CND it to protect their IP? The fact that the title and style suggests it is a sequel to the Mother series infringes on their trademark no?
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>>253018104
Wow, thanks for confirming you don't know shit about copyright laws.
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>>253017860
Oh, people will shat on it without even trying it., I know it as a fact. Specially /v/.
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>>253018356
>Have to
I'm not a lawyer but I don't think they HAVE to but rather that they CAN if they wanted.
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>>253017951
>well since the developers viraled it on /v/ its going to be horrible

We haven't, fuck off.
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>>253014907
>completely unoriginal
The only thing it shares with past Mother games is the spells and base battle system.
>copying mechanics
Elaborated on the already existing mechanics, yes.

3/10
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>>253017964
It's been cancelled for years now.
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>>253017918
I'm a spic and as a kid I looked somehow like Ness :^)
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>>253017826
>but it's not something you can write home about.
>write
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>>253018484
Underrated post
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>>253018356
Wouldn't the people making it have to be selling it for them to absolutely HAVE to CnD it? I always figured if it was free it was just a matter of if they wanted to or not.
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>>253018104
>Itoi said people can do whatever they want with the franchise because he was done after Mother 3

Goddamn that guy sounds like a bro.
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>>253018484
THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD

quality bait right here
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>>253014761
I can't imagine the the game being shit since it's based off the previous games gameplay wise anyway. At worst it'll be a missed opportunity.
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Can't be worse than 3.
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>Development team consists of 19 people
I'll be disappointed if it isn't good.
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>>253018839
I only count fifteen, like thirteen if you take way website management
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>>253018663
He basically said to go on fanfiction.net and leave him the fuck alone.
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>>253019082
Is it 15? I could have sworn there were 4 more.
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>>253018820
Assuming this isn't bait, why do you think 3 is bad?
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>>253017964
It's alright. It even got released as a ps1 greatest hit
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>>253018839

They also underwent a huge shift early on when they redid the characters/story because jackasses were writing self-inserts

I for one really like the idea of the character of Leo

>gangster-type gruff dude
>he's got PSI/PK powers

yes that's fucking awesome
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Mediocre
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>>253018249

The beginning in terms of music blew me away, simply because of how good it was, and how varying it was for each fucking enemy encounter. Seriously, so many different themes for enemy/boss battles.
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>>253014761
Guess we will see in time. No point in pointless pessimism.
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I'm not expecting anything from the plot, but I have hopes for the gameplay.
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>>253019210
They're probably the dead members.
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>>253018484
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>They're bringing back PK Beam
Sometimes, it's the little things.
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>>253020005
PK Beam should've never been dropped.
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>>253018545
>3/10
You're being too generous.
I wouldn't give M4 anything more than a .5/10.
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>>253018545
>The only thing it shares with past Mother games is the spells and base battle system.
aka the game mechanics
it also uses the same art style and writing style
it has no spark of life
it is just a poorly done rip off
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>>253019212
Why don't you ask any native jap? Ask almost any foreigner? Hell, chances are you're going to get some replies from Americans.

It lacked a lot of things that people found special in Earthbound and it just isn't the same.
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>>253020359
It's almost like they were trying to go for a sequel, or something.
I understand /v/ has a problem with that because it's fanmade and there's nothing "word of god" about it, but fuck, you jaded cunts don't even give something the benefit of releasing before you call it shit.
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>>253020359
woah buddy, let the game come out before you project onto it

also...they're at least trying to expand the overworld and battle systems. apparently (judging from the starmen thread) there's a few social overworld elements and a few new battle ones
will they be good new mechanics? maybe, probably not, but it's a bit unfair to say before the game is released. baseless optimism or pessimism at this point is worthless.
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>>253020452
That doesn't really make it bad though, it just makes it different.
>>253020872
>you jaded fucks
Do you not see the irony in this? I mean, there are plenty of people who aren't being totally negative, and you just conveniently miss out on those posts?
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>>253020452
Mother 3 improves on pretty much every point though. The map isn't as open as it was in Earthbound/Mother, but that's about it.
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>>253021289
I don't just conveniently miss those posts, no. Do you not agree that it would be difficult to assume so since we're all anonymous?
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>>253020452
It's different, man. Sequels do different things.
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>>253014761
>fan made
>dropped from my hands
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mite b cool
Not really expecting a lot out of it, though, the music seems to be the best aspect so far.
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>>253014761
>fan made
Itoi isn't writing it, so I don't care either way.
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>not authorized
Nintendo could shoot down years of work with one cease and desist.
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>>253018609
>looking like a chibi alien
ayy lmao
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>>253022660
Don't you think they'd have done that by now? What company waits six years to C&D fan made content?
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>>253014761
I don't even care.

Get Itoi in on it, otherwise I expect it to be pretentious and pandering as shit.
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>>253023191
I wasn't aware an image for these threads existed. Pretty accurate.
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>>253022851
Maybe they don't know about it.
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>>253023191
Hilariously true.
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>>253022931
>Implying the others weren't pretentious
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Isn't Kirkhope doing music for this?

That's some kind of fucking accomplish no matter how you paint it. It really shows just how many people are anticipating this.
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>>253014761

>fan-made

if I wanted that I would just close my eyes and picture what I wanted Mother 4 to be.
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>>253014761
Shit.

No Itoi, No Sakai. No Suzuki. No Tanaka. No Lindblom
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>>253020973
They had the idiotic nerve to call it Mother 4, they deserve all the preemptive criticism they fucking get.
How about instead of making a shitty fan sequel they try doing something that isn't a waste of fucking time and make their own fucking game instead of shitting on an already complete franchise.
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Is it directed by Itoi? Then it will be good.
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>>253023539
>Isn't Kirkhope doing music for this?
You might be thinking of A Hat In Time.
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>>253023692
Not like it's canon anyway.
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>>253022851
>What company waits six years to C&D fan made content?

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-04/13/sega-shuts-down-streets-of-rage-remake

>Sega's legal team has shut down a fan's massively-ambitious EIGHT-YEAR project to remake the game Streets of Rage.
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>>253023539
No, Shane Mesa is. Look him up.
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>>253019238
>I see what you did.
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Most every complaint about this game seems to be some form of projection.
I'm not even sure why this fangame in particular gets some much bad rep when there have been many like it before with similar names within the same franchise and in other fanbases.
What is it about this project in particular that gets people tied up in a fizzy?
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>Dev team is aware of the risk of a C&D
>If faced with one, their backup plan is that Mother 4 will become a generic, boring RPG with nothing special about it and not ties to the Mother franchise
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>>253023692
How is this fangame "shitting on" the franchise, exactly? It's a fangame and it's not a direct sequel or part of the overall story of the original trilogy.
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>made by high schoolers

What do you think? Itoi is an actual accomplished writer and his writing and set pieces are why the Mother games are great. These faggots are just obsessive and narcissist fans.

I know Mother fans desperately want a Mother 4, but don't stoop to support fanfiction. The Mother series is one of the only game series that actually ended on a good note, instead of spiraling down to irrelevance like so many game series.
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>>253024557
>How is this fangame "shitting on" the franchise, exactly? It's a fangame and it's not a direct sequel or part of the overall story of the original trilogy.
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does anyone on the team have any previous video game making experience?
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>>253024267
Probably being self-insert shit early on before they got their shit together and that the project started when most of the devs were in high school and other things related to credentials
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>>253024776
I don't think you realize that it won't impact the series at all though. Unless it's by Itoi it's not canon, so it can't hurt the series other than make some people butthurt that it's called Mother 4.
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>>253024826
You just literally reposted what he said with an image.
Im not sure how that image is supposed to make your arguement

Try again.
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>>253024826
What is this supposed to mean?
First of all, that's not even the logo anymore. Second of all, it's still not a direct sequel.
Third of all, they already stated it'll have ties with previous mother games.

So what's your damage, anon?
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>>253024267
>they called it mother 4
>it's not itoi

Almost every argument stems from that. People can be insanely defensive over Itoi's stuff too.

But yeah, I don't see why people get upset. It's pretty what Itoi said he wanted.
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>>253025001
You just literally missed the point.
Please pull your head out of your ass and try again.
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>>253024826
Quality post, anon.
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Just how exactly are fans allowed to make a sequel to a game owned by another company? So I can make a sequel to zelda and profit off it too?
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>>253024535
If the game can't stand up on its own, then calling it Mother 4 won't mean shit.
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>>253025421
THEN GUESS FUCKING WHAT, NIGGER
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>>253025146
Clearly
Why don't you explain it then?
He already acknowledged its a fan game sequel.

So whats your point
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>>253025402
It's not a sequel and it's free, so, yeah.
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>>253025402
Except they're not going to be any profit here.
It's going to be free.
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>>253024535
They've already said that most of the game won't heavily rely on elements from the Trilogy, so removing ties to the Mother franchise shouldn't actually hurt it too much.
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>>253025402
You can make it sure, you can't profit from it.

Unless they start selling it for money, which they presumably aren't planning to, then they should be fine.
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>>253025421
FUCKING GODDAMN THIS
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>>253018356
NOBODY except faggots call this series Mother in America.
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>>253025402
They won't even take donations for it, so I don't think they care about making profit.
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>>253025625
THEN WHY ARE THE FAGGOTS CALLING IT THAT IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE
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>>253025186
>>253025078
>>253025001
He's pointing out that they have the audacity to label it in the fashion of a main series title (you know, calling it Mother 4 and not Mother: Subtitle) and that it's extremely disrespectful to the series.

Even though I'm hyped for Mother 4, I kind of agree. Naming it that has given the image that the dev teams expects itself to put out a product of the quality of a main series game, as well as implying they have what it takes to match Itoi's work. I don't think they're that full of it but the name really is setting the bar for themselves, as well as setting the expectations of their more demanding fans.

They need to change it.
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>>253025665
Except mostly people in the west DO refer to it as the Mother series
You won't see anyone calling Earthbound Mother 2 except for supernerds, but everyone still refers to the series and the third game as Mother
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>>253024091

#rekt

I wonder if the guy killed himself after that C&D
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Hasn't someone already asked the team "why did you decide to name it Mother 4?" I mean, if I were in the team, I'd make sure everyone knew why, with how much controversy it's causing.
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>>253025807
Well he should have just said that then. I can kinda agree with that.
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>>253025807
>They need to change it.
They don't really NEED to do anything. They're making this in their free time and doing it for free. To feel entitled to any specific changes is absolutely childish.
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>>253026008
What really sucks about >>253024091
is that Sega initially actually gave them the go ahead on the project.
It wasn't until almost literally right before it came out that they issued the C&D.

But you can still find it on the internet I understand. It got mirrored
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We are not going to change the name so get over it.
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>>253025778
Because they wanted to make a game, and thought it'd be funner to make a fangame.
It's why most people do hacks or original games based of of already made games.
Also, Caps Lock may be cruise control for cool, but you still need to steer.
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having listened to the games music i can say at least the soundtrack is good
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>>253023191
>I AM SILLY
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>Sonic fans
>"Sonic Team and Dimps are pretty shit at newer 3D Sonic games, i'm gonna make my own game, 'Sonic Battle Arena and Sonic Rush Dimensions!'".

>Mario fans
>"seems Nintendo is busy making other 3D Mario games, i'm gonna go ahead and make my own fangame, 'Super Mario Snowstorm (Sunshine fan spinoff).'"

>Zelda fans
>"welp, seems like Capcom isn't gonna help out with Nintendo with Zelda games for while, i'm gonna do a small fangame with the 'Zelda Classic' engine."

>Megaman fans
>"fucking hell, Crapcum isn't gonna do MML3! I guess I'm gonna get my friends and team up to make our own MML3 and hopefully Capcom won't file in a lawsuit, even if it fangame."

>a acknowledged Mother fan
>"well i guess the Mother series is gonna be up to the fans now, i'm gonna make my own fan sequel to tribute to that."

>suddenly a crowd of Mother fanatics in denial came in weeks after the fan announcement
>"NO ITOI IS GONNA DO ANOTHER! FUCK OFF WITH YOUR FANGAME! C'nD! C'nD! C'nD! C'nD! C'nD! MUH STORY MUH TITLE >fangame "

>"welp, i guess i'm gonna do my fangame quietly then" (continues doing "Cognitive Dissonance")
Mother fanboys are fucking atrocious, no wonder fangame devs are going quiet now.
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I think they have the right to call it mother 4 since the last game didn't get a U.S. release. Deep down everyones willing to try this and anyone who isn't, is not a real earthbound fan.
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Why are you all so goddamn autistic? It's just a fucking name, grow the fuck up. Besides, the creator regrets calling it Mother 4 but the name stuck since it's what the project is recognised to be called.
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>playing fan games
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>>253026559
You see, you say that, but it doesn't really discredit the comic and only makes you look like an idiot.
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>>253026616

>I AM SILLY
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How would one contact Nintendo about a C&D?
I would love to put an end to this faggot ass abortion of a game.
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>>253014761
It looks really good so far.

I don't know why the Mother fanbase hates it so much.
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>>253026739
I don't really have an opinion on this game, I just hate that kind of comic
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Is this Japanese made or western?

How long till the C&D
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>>253026616
It's seems more like a 75/25 thing.
75% seem cool with it, and if you look on other sites you'd rarely find as much hate as you do here, while 25% seem to dislike it.
Of course, there's always a chance of samefag here, but that can go either way.
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>>253026865
Because compared to ACTUAL Mother games it looks like something a fucking child deviantarted out their ass.
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>devs viraling on /v/
>refuse to change name because otherwise it's just a no-name rom hack
>when people point out that the name is such a big issue the devs say "fuck off mother fanboy"
>when it releases nobody will play it and their months of romhacking/viraling is forgotten
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>>253023191
>Someone saved the shitty comic I made in a few minutes
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>>253025108
IT's hilarious because Itoi specifically said he didn't care about making the 4th installment himself and specifically said he wanted to play a mother game made by someone esle.
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>>253026931
Western.

I'm unsure of the likelihood of it getting C&D'd because they've kept pretty quiet about it.
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>>253026802
Well Itoi already knows about it, and he doesn't care about this series anymore. He straight up told the fans that he didn't want to make a mother 4, he wanted to play a mother 4.
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Why make a fan game when you can make your own game, honestly
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>>253027034
No it doesn't. It looks exactly like a mother game. With all the charm and everything.
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>>253027228
Probably because he wants to play a game that's FUCKING GODDAMN ORIGINAL
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What was that other game that said it was "like Earthbound" and had tumblrish looking art sone by a Jap?
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>>253027331
No it doesn't. It looks like a piece of shit that someone MSPainted to have original donut steel characters. With none of the charm at all.
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>>253026698
How is it any different from playing indie or flash games? It's not as if it's a Harry Potter dating sim.
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>>253026645
thread
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>>253027191

Oh my fuckin god

Gonna email Nintendo right the fuck now

Keep your filthy white hands off Japanese properties, assholes
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>>253026129
I don't feel entitled at all. Shit, in the end I really don't care if they change the name.

However, I believe changing the name would be a SMART decision, both to pacify an absolutely MASSIVE amount of shitflinging and even potentially lower the risk of a C&D considering the main-line style title could rub off on Nintendo's legal team the wrong way one day.

Mother 4 is fine for a small fan project, but this game blew up to colossal proportions and a lot of eyes are on them. They should be more careful with how they portray themselves and their game.

I mean yeah, it's only Mother, but legal teams and C&D's can be fucking unpredictable at times, and something simple as a name could step on the wrong foot.

>>253027260
For the devs, it's probably just their way of expressing their intense love and compassion for the series. I think it's endearing.

>>253027341
Good God chill the fuck out.
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>>253027341
wow you're pretty angry. you should chill out. plus the only connection it has to the mother series is the combat and magic.
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>>253026645
>but the name stuck
ABSOLUTE HORSE SHIT
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>>253016167

This is basically exactly how I feel about the project.

The dude who made a earthbound even said that he'd rather see a fan-made Mother 4 than be forced to make a Mother 4. He said that Mother is supposed to be a personal experience, and so he would like to see what fans would think of the series.

Anyhow, I dunno if Mother 4 will be good, but at least Mother has fans dedicated enough to bring the rest of the fandom something they think everyone will enjoy. That's awesome.
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>>253026616

You missed the part where Mega Man fan games take years and more often then not get shit canned over petty drama like Time Tangent.
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>>253027589
And the name.
And the art style.
And the fact that its a fucking rom hack.

In other words, EVERY FUCKING THING ABOUT IT
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it's going to try too hard to be DEEP and fail.
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>>253027609
Nigga why you salty?
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>>253027561
Thats it!
Great show my nigga
It's called Omori
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>>253027557
>an absolutely MASSIVE amount of shitflinging
With people who make a massive shitfest about such a thing like a name, it's doubtful that there'd be any benefit in appeasing them as they'd just move on to another thing to shitfling about. There's also the deal with that being a show of weakness, "if you can get them to change a name just by complaining about it enough, what else can you get them to do".
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>>253027504
Not like nips would have done a Mother 4 since they hated Mother 3.
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>>253027714
The game is built from scratch, though.
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>>253027867
>>253027345
Fucked up the link
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/omocat/omori
.
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>>253027963
THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE THE NIGGERS EVEN FUCKING CALLING IT MOTHER 4!?
THE NAME STICKING IS NOT A FUCKING GODDAMN REASON
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>>253027557
Hey, you're cool, anon. You didn't get all pissy when I called you entitled.
I see what you're saying, now, yeah. I guess it would be smart to change the name. Would make it so we definitely see it by the end of this year.
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>>253023539
He's doing one track because apparently the musician knows him
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>>253026931
>How long till the C&D

Soon.

I'm actually writing a notice for Nintendo's piracy/copyright email, hopefully they will check it out and take this shit down.
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plz go jett
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>>253027714
Why are you so mad? just play it when it comes out
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>>253023692
>they deserve all the preemptive criticism they fucking get.
Aren't you tough?

It's just a fangame. I have no idea how it got this famous.
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>>253028204
I rather eat glass, you nigger.
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>>253028204
errr don't play it my bad
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>>253028053
Holy shit, enough with the caps. What are you, 12?
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>>253027345
I don't think the actual makers of the game said it was like Earthbound but people interested in it did, but maybe I'm mistaken.
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>>253028053
Likely because it uses a similar engine.
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>>253028037
Actually the artist does the art for the game
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What really bothers me is that it's named Mother 4
The level up jingle thing is pretty fucking cool though
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I'm just wondering if it's going to continue the story.
I mean, why bother calling it Mother 4 if it's not related to the previous games?
If it is unrelated, then they might as well call it Mother (subtitle).
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>>253027939
>they hated mother 3
why?
>>253026931
can you do a C&D for a free game?
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>>253028162

Good. I salute you.
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>>253028162
You most definitely aren't the first and only person to do this, anon. Not with how many people that have been buttravaged at this game for the last couple of years.

I guaran-fucking-tee you they don't give a shit. It's fucking Earthbound. Send your little report and watch nothing happen.
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>>253026616
maybe Mother fans are company loyalists like pic related.
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>>253027189

This is my main issue and basically why I "allow" the title Mother 4. It's obviously named Mother 4 because they've read that interview and it's a cheeky way of paying respect to the creator. Ironically enough, people who are complaining about the name are not in the right Mother mindset
I'll reserve judgement until it comes out
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>>253028162
They've already got a plan in case of C&D, and it involves only very slight changes with the game. As much as people want this down, it won't be able to be fully taken down because it doesn't rely heavily on assets of other Mother games to begin with.

The fact that the developers were smart pisses people off and that's just great.
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>>253028660
that shit doesn't work. I wrote a letter posing as the mother 4 team asking for permission to use the mother name. I then reforward them the email every day
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>>253028525
That's exactly what Mother 2 does with Mother and what Mother 3 does with Mother 2.
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Actually naming it "Mother 4" is arrogant as fuck. It's like when Ninja Theory made DmC.
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>>253028651
>can you do a C&D for a free game?
It doesn't matter if its free when it infringes copyrighted material.

On that note, just sent my first notice to Nintendo about this.
Hopefully a C&D will happen soon.
Gonna send more.
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>>253026802
>>253028162
>>253028660

This is the funniest shit I've read in forever. You guys act so righteous, but it's pathetic that you care so much about shutting down people's fun. For what? Your own entitled opinion on what should and shouldn't exist?

Do you literally think that after a trailer with multiple articles written about it, a decent amount of attention from plenty of places, etc. that NoA's legal department doesn't know about it? Are you that naive?
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>>253028202
Link or I call inspect element.
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>>253028760
>smart
>>253028202
plz go jett
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>>253028651
It felt too dark and depressing. They liked happy Mother 2, with the fly honey, the Diamond Dog, and the Labyrinth Man. It felt more positive and happy. How many people actually died in Earthbound?
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>>253028162
Dude, could you give me more info on how to help?
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>>253028651
>can you do a C&D for a free game?
You might be too underage to remember, but there was once a Chrono Trigger fanmade 3D remake that got C&D'd by Square.
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>>253029064
You are such a righteous dude
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I won't open my mouth until I actually try it
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>>253025931
I always called them Earthbound Zero, Earthbound and Mother 3.
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>>253028162
come on dude, I don't even like the game but why do you have to be that one guy who shit's on other people's fun
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>>253028741
>I'll reserve judgement until it comes out
That's what everyone should do, really. Or at least until we actually get a really good look at the game. So far, we only have that one trailer.
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>>253029026
Reminder that Pokey has one of the worst fates of any video game character ever. I think he just wanted to be friends with Ness.
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>>253029026
>How many people actually died in Earthbound?
Two less people than in Mother 3.
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>>253029128
Oh yeah
why the fuck would they do that?
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>>253029203
>that smug attitude that reeks of autism
yeah, it is pretty low, isn't it?
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>>253029026
Mother 2 got pretty fucking dark towards the end, though.
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>>253028716
>>253028760
>>253028948
You literally can't name it Mother 4 though.

That's copyright infringement basics.

>>253029064
Send them an email with links to the project and what it violates.

>>253029203
Maybe if the devs weren't cocky assholes I wouldn't have a problem.
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>>253029324
Because it was shit and was copyright infringement.
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>>253029128
>Square
Squeenix are money grubbing merchant, of course they're gonna take it down in a heartbeat
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>>253027714
It's actually built from the ground up in C++
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>>253029324
Because companies hate their fans.
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>>253029286

>One more person

R.I.P buzz buzz lest we forget
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>>253014761
Is it ever going to be released?
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>>253029286
Well how many exactly? They made Buzz Buzz's death overly dramatic as a joke.
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>>253029513
Winter of this year, supposedly.
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>>253029203
It's an excuse to bait everyone else in the thread.

Seriously, read every pro-C&D post in this thread. It's not people who are genuinely mad at the game and trying to destroy it, they're in here because it's very easy to set bait with this topic of discussion.

Shit, they're sending reports to Nintendo. It's an easy way to piss everyone off and they can't do nothing about it. Perfect bait.
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>>253029449
Well, you'd lose nothing if they made it, you know
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>>253028162
>>253026931
Never.
Itoi said he didn't care.
He's openly expressed his disinterest in continuing the series himself and actively mentioned how he would like to see a game made by other people.
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>>253029513

this winter according to them
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Mother 4 is life. Mother 4 is anything.
Itoi said that it could be anything, from an experience to a stage play.
There are billions of Mother 4s. We're living in Mother 4.
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>>253029657
Mother 4 fucking sucks.
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>>253029387
As opposed to Mother 3, which got pretty dark all the time.
I mean, the original script for Tanetane Island was scrapped because Itoi couldn't stop crying.
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>>253029026
Most of the middle of Mother 3 was overall decently humourous. It had stuff like Barrier Trio, Magypsies, Negative Man, that jar of pickles, etc.
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I think now we need to propose subtitles for the game.

>Mother: You had me.
>Mother: Tell the children not to walk my way.
>Mother: I want to fuck you.
>Mother: Mother harder.
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>>253029487
Oh yeah, huh. I guess his death is just so silly and anticlimactic that I forgot.
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>>253029396
There are people like you in every MOTHER 4 thread. You aren't the first, and you won't be the last. It doesn't change that you're not changing or impacting a thing.
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Itoi basically did the pulled a Conker and told us to make our own sequel if we wanted it

this is just the response to that
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>>253028741
>It's obviously named Mother 4 b
It was named that before the interview when the head faggot was still in charge.

They booted the guy and restarted development with the same general idea. It was too late to change the name because the few people who did know about it knew it as mother 4.

Stop being salty you fucking faggot. It's just a name.
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>>253028814
Mother introduces Giygas.
Mother 2 kills off Giygas and introduces Porky.
Mother 3 essentially kills of Porky.
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>>253029713
Mother 3 starts dark, but lightens up the more you advance. The next really dark part of the game is the island and then the endgame.
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>>253029708
>mother fans suddenly don't want a Mother 4 from Itoi
what happened?
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>>253029724
>Negative Man being humorous

How did anyone think that was funny?
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>>253029946

And introduces the dark dragon
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>>253029946
>kills
nah, he wish
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>>253028814
Mother 3 with Earthbound, yes.
Earthbound is definitely a sequel to Mother. It has the Maria plot, Magicant, and it's not farfetched that your parents are actually Ana and Ninten.
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>>253029713
>doyouhaveasinglefacttobackthatup.jpg
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>>253028814
Which goes back to >>253025421.
A Mother game isn't one that constantly references the past one, it's a game that stands on it's own then makes you go "Holy Shit" when you realize what connects everything.
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>>253029752
>Mother: Mother harder
I vote for this.
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>>253029713
>I mean, the original script for Tanetane Island was scrapped because Itoi couldn't stop crying.

What's this about now?
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>>253029128
It was alsoa complete from the ground up remake.

Not a fanmade game barely related to the last games in a series that is KNOWN to NEVER be getting a next installment.
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>>253030095
>it's not farfetched that your parents are actually Ana and Ninten.
That sounds like a fan theory, to be honest.
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>>253030005
>We're living in Mother 4.
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>>253029396
I dunno, you seem more cocky than the devs. Salty too.
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>>253029396
>Send them an email with links to the project and what it violates.
Great.
Just sent notices to three different Nintendo email addresses regarding illegal activities.
Might send more using other emails.
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>>253029570
Knuckles is "the black guy" of Sonic in the same vein that Piccolo is "the black guy" of DBZ.
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>>253030257
>tfw you will never have PSI powers.
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hey Mother fans, here some projects that are already done and/or pending and not C'nD

http://cogdis.tazmily.com/
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1825122831/heroes-of-mother-3-0
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>>253030123
>>253030109
Okay, maybe not crying, but he certainly didn't feel too happy reading it.

>Itoi: I had a hard time with that island. It has that Moonside vibe to it, and it's like a mirror of the player's mind in that it reflects their worst nightmares. Even the temporary dialogue I had used there at first was so unpleasant I couldn't stand to look at it. So I tried to tone things down just enough by rewriting it. But that island definitely isn't pleasant at all.
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>>253030009
His sprite was funny, and I thought the encounter itself was overall funny.

I guess his lines aren't funny by themselves, but it just feels so melodramatic that it's funny in the end.
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>>253014761
>Non official game called mother 4
Its automatically going to get crapped on by the mother/earthbound community.
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>>253030463
But it's not called fucking Mother 4.

That's the main problem here.
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>>253029724
That fucking metal monkey, too.
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>>253030560
Starmen.net's got a pretty big collective boner for it. It'll be fine.
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>>253030116
I don't recall that cutscene being in the game.
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>>253029613
The Chono remake? Square would. Their remake would have been compared to the project and be made obsolete.

The question is what would nintendo lose with this fangame?

Literally nothing.
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Just FYI the reason they called it Mother 4 is because Itoi basically implied he's not making another Mother title.

When asked about making another Mother title after he completed 3, he said, "If someone decided to make a Mother 4, I'd love to see it!" or something to that effect.
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>>253030560
>Its automatically going to get crapped on by the mother/earthbound community.
Its automatically going to get crapped on by the mother/earthbound community on /v/. Everywhere else, I've seen nothing but hype for it.
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>>253030646
Stay mad. Let me guess...you have nothing to contribute here other than "BUT IT HAS A FOUR IN IT?"
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>>253030795
And that's when the developers decided "Hey! Lets rip off this game franchise for free publicity so that are shitty game will get more notice than it would have if we actually tried to be talented!"

And then they got hit with a C&D and never got to release their shitty game... Oops! That part hasn't happened yet.
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>>253030830
>implying I'm mad

No, Nintendo, the fucking CnD monsters will be.
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>>253031037
Except it's a completely free game so publicity doesn't matter whatsoever.
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>>253030226
It would make sense. It's the right timeframe, and Ness is the chosen one basically. With PSI powers.
The Mom is never given a name but is blonde and you never see your Father. It is a theory but I believe it.
Another fun one is that the Ness Face in the Giygas battle is actually Ninten. At that point in time, Giygas had been defeated as Gigyue by Ninten, Ana, and Teddy/Loid, but Ness wasn't even alive at the time of battle, Not to mention he's a robot so Giygas doesn't know his actual face.
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>>253030646
>muh title
>muh indie look
>muh story might be messed up
>muh gameplay
>it shit, waaaah
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I love how mad everyone gets about the mere existence of it.
IT's a source of great humor with me.
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>>253031143
>Except it's a completely free game so publicity doesn't matter whatsoever.
Right.
Because it doesn't matter if nobody plays a game you spent actual time making.
Why would you want any publicity for anything you put actual work into.
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>>253030257
Coca-Cola, sometimes war
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>people sending in c&d's
>devs plans are to remove the mother element
>game can stand on its own enough that removing mother wouldn't be a difficult task at all

Ya'll niggas fucking dumb. You're practically helping them since removing Mother would allow them to sell the game, or do whatever else they could to actually make money from it, and the money is already there considering the game is hyped as fuck.

itt dumb niggas and bait
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>>253031228
>muh greentext
>muh fucking crying becuase you'll never get a real mother 4 so you need to cling on to whatever shit some no-name indie dev shits out
>wahh
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>>253031037
>saying this about a fangame some guy started on a forum when he was twelve
You're reading too far into things if you think it was done purely for publicity.
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>>253031043
>millions of mario and zelda fangames out there
>SMBX isn't CnD
>Zelda- Parallel World isn't CnD
>Kirby fangames out there isn't CnD
>Metroid fan games out there isn't CnD
>forgetting the fact Nintendo is friendly with fan games.
you Mother fans are delusional
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>>253031467
They plan on releasing it this year and they'd have to change the name as well as aspects of the game play itself.
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>>253031329
They're not making any money. They just want to make a game people will enjoy. It would be disappointing for them to not get much feedback on the game but it doesn't actually matter whatsoever. If they were using the Mother 4 title to make money it'd be a big deal.
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>>253031467
You know you're most likely being baited, right?
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>>253020872
I take it you're the developer or something?
No need to get upset over people disliking some silly fan-made game, these "fan-sequels" are attempted ALL the time and they're always fucking garbage.
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>>253031597
no i'm saying this is what Mother fans are also cry about too
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>>253031597
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And that's what we call BTFO, kids.
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>>253031807
ITS A BIG DEAL REGARDLESS YOU FAGGOT
They won't be getting feedback because its a good game, they'll be getting it because they fucking named it Mother 4 like a bunch of talentless fucks.
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>>253031779
>releasing it
ITOI ISN'T GONNA DO ONE, YOU DO YOUR OWN!
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>>253031885
I know. They good, since they made me want to point out the fallacy in how sending in reports will really not amount to anything no matter the outcome.
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>Playing recently Mother series
>Try to beat the three games for the summer
>Right now, Mother 1 is beaten and I'm on Earthbound
>tfw the enemies in Mother 1 are more hard than the boss
It's like they want to destroy the farming routine and make it feel more like adventure...
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>>253031937
see the post above you
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>>253032083
You know why Itoi isn't going to do one?
BECAUSE THERE DOESN'T NEED TO FUCKING BE ANOTHER

This game might as well be a fucking FF7 fan movie.
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>>253032189
Hate to break it to ya, but I think that's just because Itoi didn't give a fuck about level balancing.
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>>253031962
But it's not a big deal at all. You're getting pissy about the Mother 4 name but it doesn't matter at all. It's not canon, so it can't shit on the series. It's not making money, so the devs aren't banking on the series. You're just being ridiculous. And if it's a shit game people will say it's a shit game. Play it yourself when it comes out and judge it, but in the end it makes absolutely no impact whatsoever.
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>implying LISA will not be the real Mother 4
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>tfw mother 3 is your favorite game of all time
>tfw lucas is one of your all time favorite chracters
>tfw lucas might be cut in smash4
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>>253032189
Mother had bosses?
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>>253032286
They admitted they barely tested the late game areas at all, didn't they?
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>>253032474
what if the reveal trailer has Lucas ride in on Ridley, much akin to the way he rode in on the Mecha Drago, to coincide with the announcement of Mother 3 being made available to the West via a 3DS/WiiU VC release?
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>>253032245
>BECAUSE THERE DOESN'T NEED TO FUCKING BE ANOTHER
yeah not another official sequel, this doesn't you should be acting like spezzs and purging any fan creation that has it own continuation or spinoff of Mother.
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>>253032427
I'm getting pissed about a bunch of talentless faggots and their shitty rip off game becoming a success based poorly on the fact that THEY FUCKING NAMED IT MOTHER 4.
If they named it anything else, they'd be accomplishing something on their own fucking merit.
But they fucking aren't.
They're being fucking talentless jews and riding a successful franchise's coat tails.
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>>253032795
>Mecha

sorry, I'm an idiot, apparently.
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>>253032493
how long you been playing SMT or Ys? of course it has bosses.
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>>253032493
Baby, Starman, the Dragon, Giygas, probably others.
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>>253032795
I would explode
They Are the thing I most want in smash
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>>253032286
That's not a bad point, but:
>There are an enemy with which if you let it lefts you win more experiences than if you kill it
>These fucking enemies that hurt you before to be dead
>These fucking One Shot attack that kill instantly one of your group
Again, it's not wrong to assume Itoi didn't give a fuck about level balancing.

>>253032493
If you count the Starman in the Zoo office, the big fat robot that you meet three times and the final boss, yes.
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>>253028162
For what purpose.

May as well write over the Legend of Zelda lamp flash game.
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>>253032853
But stop and think for a minute. They're not making any money from this at all, so them riding the coat tails of the franchise doesn't matter. Yea if they tried to make a studio and use that game as proof of their skill and use it to market games that'd be completely fucked but I don't see any evidence that they're doing that. They seemingly just want to release a game for people to enjoy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrvbsNlOtoA

ayy this beat is hot as fuck
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>>253033303
>I don't see any evidence that they're doing that
They've actually explicitly said that why's they're making the game free.
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>>253033303
Jesus fucking christ, how fucking dense are you?
Money isn't the only fucking thing that you can get from fucking exposure.
People may actually congratulate them and hire them based on this fucking rip off that nobody would fucking no about if it weren't for the FUCKING NAME AND ART STYLE.
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>>253032853
You keep throwing words like "talentless" and "rip off" around, but I don't think you know what they mean.

The obvious answer would be "IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY GOOD THEY'D BE DOING THEIR OWN THING"

How do you know they aren't? As far as we know, they just want to put a fangame out for the sake of making a fangame. Also, have you ever made a game? It takes a serious amount of dedication.
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>>253033441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5xtgHdIj14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQxbPK8ixNY
Which of them sound better?
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>>253033715
If people hire them for this, then that means it was probably good. Then that means we will have are worst nightmare: Good Game Designers. /v/ would have nothing to complain about.
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>>253033715
Goddamn you are so mad it's making me snicker.

Keep going, you've made my night less boring.
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>>253033715
>all of this ad hominem
learn to make an argument based off of anything but emotion

until then, get out

you know most people arguing against you aren't even mother 4 fans, right? you're just off the deep end
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>>253033965
IF IT WERE GOOD THEY WON'T BE FUCKING CALLING IT MOTHER 4 AND RIPPING OF THE FUCKING MECHANICS AND ART STYLE
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>>253033917
I like the first one.
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>Mother anniversary is just 14 days away
>Mother hinted at during E3
Who hype here?
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>>253033715
Well see now you're actually making a point and I can see where you're coming from. When you stop calling someone a faggot for 5 seconds and state what you're trying to say you can actually come up with a decent argument. Yeah, it's probably not a fucking good idea for someone to hire them off this project. I agree with that completely. Honestly they SHOULD just change the name and make it a stand-alone thing, but you don't need to be so horribly butthurt about it. And who knows? I don't think the name will carry it alone. I completely disagree that a name will carry it alone. It'll take a lot of effort to come up with the charm of the original series, but we'll just have to wait and see if it does it.
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>>253034081
you should probably wait until the game comes out before you start passing judgement. We don't even know if it will be any good or not. All we can do is wait.
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>>253033276
Holiday Hex and Hallow's End are pretty bitchin'. If there are any hacks you choose to play here, pick one of those. Halloween Hack and Arn's Winter Quest are also pretty good, if the former's a little edgy, and both made by the same dude behind Undertale. Some good shit.
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>>253033441

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gYubMyXzSg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU__bc58oXo

Earthbound is full of sick beats m8
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>>253034221
I am
But I just ask for one thing, lucas in smash
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>>253034352
There's also that Mother remake coming up.
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>>253033441
ayyy lmao
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>>253028162
this is why Nintendo loyalists are bad, we're not allowed to make anything except for Nintendo or without Nintendo's confirmation.

if they see a fan project that being made, they're are gonna go full Third Reich and purge and blackmail the innocent creation.

this is why the Ura Zelda and Starfox fan projects is down, rabid Nintendo loyalists. I think after they are done with Mother 4, they're gonna go after the Metroid 2 Remake and some certain Zelda/Mario game. Including Crash: Wrath of the Crytals
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>>253034698
But how do you know this whole thread isn't Nintendo loyalist vs Nintendo loyalist?
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>>253034698
/v/..../v/ has changed.
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>>253034589

ayy lmao
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>>253034589
Tumblr Mook pls go
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>>253014761
Not anyone can do what itoi did with the series. So i doubt it
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>>253014761
It will be objectively shit.
If it was named anything other than Mother 4 than it might be decent.
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>>253034962
Robot, not alien
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mother 3 was the intended ending. shit 1/10
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>>253035505
robot alien
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>>253034487
>Mother remake
Pls, pls no
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>>253035356
You can pretend it's called MOTHER: Gaiden. If that'll magically change the contents inside to something beautiful for you, go right ahead.
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>>253018659

That's not how trademarks work.

Mother is trademarked by Nintendo. By using the name Mother in a video game context you're breaching their trademark and so Nintendo is free to claim damages.

If Nintendo plans to release a Mother 4, you can sure as hell bet they'll take this one down. It's confusing to potential customers and damages the brand with its lack of uniqueness; something Mother is known for.

This is just a plain rip-off using elements from the previous games like every other fan project. The problem here is simply the name. It takes up space for the true sequel if it ever comes to light.

These M4 douches can defend themselves with what they thought a Japanese guy had said in some interview translated into English but at the end of the day Nintendo owns rights, not him.
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>>253035505
alien robot
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>>253017435
What worries me is that Itoi is a respected writer in japan and every game tried to take the same concept in differents aspects (specially the third one). Whoever is writing this fangame needs to catch Itoi style, and be a good writer with a lot of creativity.
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>>253035505

ayy lmao
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>>253035631
Alien robot, check your robot privilege.
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>>253035679
But it's not.
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>>253035505
Is it even robotic? I thought it was just in the Earthbound translation that it had references to that part.
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>>253035647
What's up, anon? They're remaining as faithful as possible to the source game. It's a graphical update more than anything else.
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>>253034487
More info on this?
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>>253030437
In the same way that Skeeter is the "black guy" from Doug. *honk! honk!*
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>>253028920
C&D won't do jack shit since the developers said they'd just change the game to the point where it's legally a new IP.
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>>253028812
Man, man...you are a trooper. I bet you get employee of the month every month.
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>>253035647
Mother 1 is in the most need for a remake, imo.
I would've rather it used mother's graphics and combat though.
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>>253035847
Do we get a choice of original game play or Earthbound scrolling meter?
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>>253035898
Sorry that no one wants to play your shitty fanfic.
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>>253018249
I liked the story. I would like it had the removed content because i also liked the idea of the game being even darker. But Itoi Didn't like where the story was going and decided not to make it so dark, maybe that was the wiser choice but i still wonder how mother 3 was going to be when it was being developed for the N64.
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>>253036068
Uh, yes actually. Skeeter is clearly the cool black dude of Doug.
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>>253035852
Google leads right to the thread
http://forum.starmen.net/forum/Community/PKHack/Mother-Remake
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>>253036158
*Mother 3's graphics and combat
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>>253023692
They called it Mother 4 because of an interview with Itoi where he said that he didn't want to make Mother 4. But if he 'd like it had to be from the fans.

They are not doing that for themselves or for you , anyway.
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>>253036168
Doesn't look like it. Not that it matters.
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>>253036125
They will because the developers HAVEN'T changed the name and there are gameplay mechanics that still infringe on copyrights
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I'm interested, but I can't get hyped for a fan-project. I'll keep my eyes on it and if it happens to be good, I'll be happy.
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>>253034698
>they're gonna go after the Metroid 2 Remake
But anon that project will never be finished anyway. Seriously, the guy has been working on it since like 2009
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>>253036586
Source.
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>>253036586
NO, they called it Mother 4 because they're ripping off the art style, gameplay and NAME
Look at any of the screenshots you faggot.
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>>253036586
>They are not doing that for themselves or for you , anyway.
>for themselves or for you , anyway.
>for you
Very subtle, Anon.
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>implying this wasn't one of the best songs and moments of the series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebu38NZ7q0U
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>>253028741
This. Anyone who says they called it mother 4 because of egoism, clearly don't know why it's named Mother 4
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>>253036223
then stop complaining about it, no one cares that Itoi isn't gonna do a M4 or some fan is gonna use the title
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>>253036878
>NO YOU'RE WRONG IM RIGHT WAHHHHHH

this is you
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>>253014761
I hope the writers are really really good, the best thing about the mother series was that. Why Mother 4, though? It's not like 3 ended in a cliffhanger, did it? I can't remember.
Kinda related, anyone knows anything about the fan made Megaman Legends 3?
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>>253037263
But what if Itoi will one day. How will this look on your precious fangame shithead
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>>253036993
>Implying driving a tank in the desert with this song is not one of the best moments of the series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVWFyPoeB4I
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>>253035847
>>253036158
If you think it is needing of a remake then you shouldn't be playing it in the first place
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>>253036864
http://earthboundcentral.com/?s=mother+4
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>>253036993
The Mother games' soundtracks are truly fucking masterpieces.
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>>253037602
I'm pretty sure the guy will die before he can finish another mother game. Isn't he getting old or something?
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>>253037602
>what if
he said he doesn't want to do one, stop being a fucktard and get over it
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>>253037617
>That black bar
Everytime I try playing on a emulator that black bar drives me nuts to stop playing
Is there anyway to get rid of it
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>>253037747
>>253036878
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>>253037747
Why not? the rhythmic combo system in Mother 3 added an interesting kick in battle. and using that to the first game's battle themes would be awesome.
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>>253036993
Best Mother song is the title theme.
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>>253036686
>gameplay mechanics that still infringe on copyrights

Like what? There's nothing original about Mother's gameplay mechanics. Hell, they even ripped their battling system from Dragon Quest.
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>>253037747
What does this even fucking mean? That Mother is just so perfect that anything else would just blemish its perfect perfectness?

No here's something for you to sit on: Mother was fucking mediocre. Yeah the writing and plot and setting was great but as a JRPG it was fucking horrendous. It is the absolute only game I've ever had to cheat on just to beat. All I did was double experience gain and it was still an annoying experience. Grinding out the ass and battling was just not fun in general. Shitty Dragon Quest pretty much.

Hopefully the hackers also change that.
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I'm just hoping that there will be more PoCs in this game. The Mother series was desperately in need of some PoC characters and not just pasty faggot white cracker kids.
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>>253038478
Look at the screenshots on their website you fag.
The battle system is practically copy pasted from the mother games.
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>>253038875
which is copy-pasted from the dragon quest games
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>>253038498
It's one of the exceptions to the "gameplay > everything else", really.
A remake fixing gameplay and maybe updating the graphics would be perfect.
>>253038256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x1HyJWyius
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Look what I found, fags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fNbJIl_Mkg#t=50
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Most of the anons in this topic are cynical as fuck. What happened to you guys? I'm willing to give it an honest chance from start to finish. You should all set your cynicism aside for once and do the same.

Mother as a series exists not as something shared between games. Mother as a series exists as a concept. A Mother game should..

>make you laugh
>touch your heart
>pop culture references
>have general what-ness

These are all things that Mother as a series has in common. If Mother 4 touches on all four of those points successfully, it's worthy of being called Mother. Just because Itoi says it's done doesn't mean the series is over. He's done with the series. The fans aren't.

Saying that it lacks the charm that the games before it had is the most asinine thing I've heard regarding any Mother-related, especially since none of us have even played it any. I don't normally defend games that haven't even released yet, but since you won't have to pay a dime to play the game, save your judgment for when you actually play it.
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>>253039168
The only thing that bothers me is the sprite for policeman
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>>253039063
No, it isn't.
Maybe if you'd actually played those games you'd know that.
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>>253014761
I don't know.

I haven't played it yet, and we don't know enough about it to be certain of anything.

Could go both ways.
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I'm sure it'll be good but this is one of those occasions that I can''t play anything that isn't made by the original creator.
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>>253039168
>that unnerving sound of a crowd as the music rises
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>>253014941
Well it is, do you expect them to call it Earthbound 2?
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>>253029752
Mother Forever
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>>253039745
Fuck off viralfag
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>>253037895
Move the emulator window to the side of the screen so the black bar is cut off.
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>>253039168
Sorry to say this but it doesn't look good.
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>>253039168
>Space Dandy
>Japanese Johnny Bravo featuring F-Zero
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>>253029752
What's wrong with Mother 4?
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>>253040585
Just read the thread. You'll understand.
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>>253039970
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>>253029752
>M0ther

>MOTHER

>M4: Mother 4
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>>253029752
>Mother: Other M
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>>253038875
>The battle system is practically copy pasted from the mother games.

Gameplay mechanics aren't copyrighted so that means nothing. If they were, you'd think GTA clones like Saints Row would be C&D'd by now.

The only things that actually matters when it comes to infringing video game copyrights is asset and likeness theft, and Mother 4 uses 100% original assets and can easily change its story and its name to remove any references to Mother.
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So is this a general Mother thread, or just the fangame?
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>>253041220
holy shit
best one
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>>253041348
no one's stopping you from posting about other ones
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Here's why it could be good:
>People are genuine Earthbound fans and have been for years
>Have been a member of the community
>Dude who took over vowed absolutely no internet pop culture shit so no Bieber or Reddit jokes
>Dude who took over sounds insightful about game design
>The pixel artist is super talented
>Interesting ideas so far
>They kicked out the people who wanted to do self insert fanfic tier shit
>PK Beam is back
>Dat level up system

Why it might be shit
>Who the fuck are these people?
>Fan game
>Mostly under 30 staff
>Fan game
>Calling it Mother 4

That last point is seriously moot, though. Itoi told people that if they were going to make a game that was Mother 4 no matter how you look at it, then just call it Mother 4. Besides what Itoi said, I'd rather have a fan game that knows what it is than a blatant ripoff like the shit Omocat is doing for money.

The Japs feel the same way by and large, and the majority of the community agrees. They were on Shitaku front page for a while. Seriously, even if you hate the idea, if you like the series you'll probably play it just to see how shit it is.

By the way OP stop baiting. That shit is beyond old.

Pic related, back during Christmas there was a lot of fan art on pixiv.
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>>253041348
Mother thread
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>>253032461
>playing anything by that shitheap "dev"

I take it you didn't play the first Lisa game.
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>>253030494
The game was good, but he's a faggot
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>>253041543
>Dude who took over vowed absolutely no internet pop culture shit so no Bieber or Reddit jokes
>They kicked out the people who wanted to do self insert fanfic tier shit
Who is this "dude"? can I get a source?
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>>253041845
Whats wrong with it?
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> brown hair
> green eyes
Finally, a master race protagonist.
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>>253041986
The original guy who started the thread back in 2009? I think? was called Chaisu on the internet. He has black hair.

The protagonist of Mother 4 was named Chase and had black hair.

Notice who isn't on the staff page.

I think they also rearranged who's in charge of the project. It used to be this guy on starmen named Zephys but then somebody named Pastel came in and shit changed dramatically. He basically said anything on the old blog is null and void and that the old game doesn't exist.

I've been on starmen for years please don't bully
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>>253040340
Yeah?
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>>253041510
>>253041715
SO, I JUST BEAT MOTHER 3 THIS EVENING.
The "What did Pokey do?" shit in the penultimate boss felt really dumb to me. I understand what it's a throwback to, but it doesn't make much sense coming from anything that's not an abomination from beyond space and time. As an abomination from space and time, I don't really dig it. Anyone else think so?
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>>253042165
It is literally Your Dad Raped You: The Game.

Hamfisted symbolism, shitty sprite work that was a straight edit of Earthbound sprites, shit map design, trying to be a clone of Yume Nikki and somehow failing miserably, bad writing, worse music, literally made just to be edgy.

Like, that was the author's intent. He wanted to make the game about the worst thing he could imagine and all he could imagine was making a female protagonist who runs away from home because her dad raped her BUT WAIT SHES HALLUCINATING AND ALL SHE CAN SEE IS HER DAD

tldr it's shit
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>>253042092
This would be really edgy and bad if it were about anything else.
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>>253042435
yeah, it's dumb, especially since there are animations for the attacks
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>>253042435
I agree. Everything involving him felt really ham-fisted.

Think about it from Lucas' POV though: The most robotic thing he's ever fought has been silly robots with googly eyes. That bed is a high tech nightmare, what the fuck DOES it do?

How's he gonna understand lasers and denial waves and shit?
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>>253036878
Do you read your own words?

do you even know what fan games are, anon?
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>Fan game calling itself 4
These guys are wild as fuck
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>>253036878
Aw man...it's this guy again.
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>all this autism over a number

The fuck? How many games call themselves Mario 10 or Megaman 11 when they're fan hacks?

If it's shit, literally nothing is ruined. The first three games are untouched. Why are people so autistic?
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>>253029946
I don't understand why Gyigas is an alien in the first game and the embodiment of all evil in the second? how he went from a tragic villain some sort of evil god
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Mother 1+2 translation or Earthbound Zero?
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>>253043337
His race is a race of sufficiently advanced aliens. They do whatever the fuck they want.
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>>253042435
But by the events of Mother 3 he IS an abomination from beyond space and time.
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>>253018484
You.

I like you.

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>>253043337
Giygas goes full retard with PSI power, and with his mind being unstable as it is, he fucked himself up.
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>>253043610
Earthbound Zero.
The Mother 1+2 translation is not finished, at least, the Mother 2 part is not translated.
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>>253043720
>using emoji
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>>253017951
Hi, I'm a Mother 4 dev. I like to eat dog poop and I work for EA. Sometimes on cloudy days I spit nails at tourists and holler "woopty woopty snaggy woo" while bending over backwards. I have three nipples, and one is called Paul.

This is you. This is the shit you would believe.
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>>253042435
Just was about to post this: >>253043683
Did you notice his condition? He's basically been around the block enough times to learn Giygas' "signature move", so to speak.

>>253042736
So does Giygas in Earthbound, but Mother 3's feels more tangible. As in it looks like he's shooting something.
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>>253043610
Mother 1+2, then after you finish, listen to the original music.

>>253043862
If he wants to play Mother 1 only, then the Mother 1+2 translation is a much better translation than the NoA one. The only thing Earthbound Zero has over Mother 1+2 is the original music.
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>>253043862
I don't care about the Mother 2 part.
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>>253030050
>Mother 4 kills off the dark dragon

OH SHIT HERE WE GO
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>>253043965
To be honest, I was just testing to see if it works.

>OP is a
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>>253044559
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>>253044071
Yes and that's why it's stupid, he shares animations with other enemies.

>What did Porky do?!
>Shoots off a bunch of rockets with whistling rocket noises
>GEE I WONDER
>DID HE SHOOT OFF A BUNCH OF ROCKETS?
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>>253044882
Seems like a little detail to be anal about.
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>>253045293
Jesus they are 13 not 6
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>>253045416
Elementary teacher here, even six yearolds don't look like that. It's stylized, don't autism.
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>>253044850
>Mfw I have chromoji
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>>253045293
>That pantyshot
Lewd
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>>253039816
How can a fan made game be mother 4 though>
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>>253045416
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>>253045549
>Chrome
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>>253045696
How can a fan game be Earthbound 2?

How can a fan game be Mega Man Unlimited?

How can a fan game be Super Mario Bros X?

How can a fan game be Ocarina of Time 2D?

This is literally the stupidest thing. It is literally judging a book by its cover.
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>>253045293
Ness looks so stupid

He's supposed to be the cool teen, not the retarded baby
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>>253018609
chris is that you
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I've been looking forward to playing it, but no high expectations. If it turns out good, cool. If its shit in modern typical indie fashion full of internet memes and shit, whatever. It'll be free and I can just delete it from my computer and they will have wasted half a decade on a pile of shit.

The name doesn't really bother me though since Itoi said he wasn't going to make another anyways and wouldn't mind fans taking it into their hands. It's big shoes to fill, but they got the music and art down pretty well. The writing and shit could be on par considering most of the people are from Starmen.net and that sites like super dedicated Mother fans (like almost autism levels) so yeah I have a little bit a faith.

It looks alot better than once it did a few years ago (looked like a self insert mary sue type shit when it started)
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>>253046030
>Ness
>the cool teen
I'm curious where you got this characterization
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>>253045293
this is both well-made but horrid at the same time
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>>253045847
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>>253045987
None of those position themselves as the next game in the series though.
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>>253046189
He got it from the NoA clay model, among other things.
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>>253045293
Why is that bug there? I don't remember a beetle item in game
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>>253046184
One of the current devs who took charge both swore not to include any internet pop culture and also kicked out people trying to edge their fan fiction tier ideas and self-inserts.

It seems like they have an idea about what the game shouldn't be, so I have faith in them.
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>>253046317
Mega Man Unlimited did, and this is literally the most common trend in fan fiction. Whether they give it a subtitle or not, they almost universally position themselves within the work as the next in the series, coming after the last canon work.
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>>253014761

>unofficial

Shit by default
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>>253046189
He's a 13 year old magical sporty teen
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>>253046815
>Using the American Clay Model
It is not official
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>>253046815
I wouldn't describe him as "cool" though, just an average kid.
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I really hope nintendo sues.

All they had to do was call it Step Mother
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>>253014761
>Mother 4

hope nintendo cease and desist this shit project until nothing of it remains
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>>253037435
It seemed like the dark dragon or whatever it was called came up and filled the world with darkness, could be wrong though. Trailer looks nothing like that though
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>>253046928
But do you think all but the craziest of these fanfiction writers think they're actually making the next in the series?
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They should have subtitled it; straight up naming it 4 is disrespecting.

It will be shit, no doubt about it.

You have to give the Mother/Earthbound fans some credit, spearheading translations and their own games is quite something.
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>>253046909
Eh, I'd hang with him.

I look like Jeff so there's that
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>>253047237
Under normal circumstances, I would agree with you. But Itoi has expressed interest (literal or not, it's very debatable) that he wishes to "pass the torch" onward.
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>>253046928
>>253047083
Too bad Iwata said they won't do that.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/102053-Nintendo-Doesnt-Want-to-Shut-Down-Fan-Projects
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>>253047229
No you retard they just want to give their project a fancy name or try to give justice to a series
Only the most crazy think they fiction of a canon part of a series
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>>253014895
The creator of the Mother series specifically said he would like the next game to be fan made.

Stop being such a little crybaby bitch.
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>>253047569
No he did not say this you fucking liar stop spouting this shit
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>>253047229

They're calling it that- that's all that matters.

Think of it this way. The ONE requirement of a game to be a spiritual successor to a Mother game is for it to be well written and clever. If they can't come up with a good name or show the minimum of humility, it's already a bad start.
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You guys shit on it literally ONLY because of the name. That is literally the only complaint I have seen
>now you will call the music and art shit like clockwork

It's not like they're circlejerking calling Itoi a hack and thinking they deserve to make the real next game in the series. They just love the game like you do.
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>>253047535
Except these guys use >>253047569 as their argument that they in fact are making THE Mother 4
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>>253047432
This doesn't necessary mean they won't do it
Someone just need to email Itoi about this & Nintendo will C&H this so hard
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Anyone ever notice that the same things are being repeated in this thread?
Is it people falling for the same bait or is it one person pretending people are falling for his bait to get more people to fall for the bait?
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>>253047672
It's trivial to come up with a good title.

Itoi straight up said if a game was intending to be Mother 4 or a spiritual successor they might as well just use the title.

It was started as a stupid highschool fanfiction project when there were a hundred Mother 4 projects after the translation for Mother 3 came out. They just kept it so it wouldn't confuse people. That's literally it. You are angry over literally nothing.
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>>253047674
There's not a whole lot that they've shown off that we know to be in the final product.

People also can express distaste in their choice of a name. I think they should have just gone with Mother: Subtitle or something cheeky like Father or Step Mother, but hey.
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>>253047651
see
>>253037331
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>>253047942
Thanks for strawmanning
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>>253047825
>hurf durf le FUCKING SHILLS
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>>253047816
Except I've done that exact thing just to prove how trivial it is. The response I got said it was forwarded to the appropriate parties.

In January of last year.

They know it exists, it was frontpage on Kotaku for like a week and a half or some shit.

They don't care.
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>>253047857

>It's trivial to come up with a good title.

Opinion discarded
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THIS FUCKING GUY!
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>>253047762
They've never used that argument, ever. The only people who use that argument are people excited about the game trying to calm down namefags.
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>>253047762
It won't be official but it will be the closest thing fans have so they will treat it as such
There is nothing wrong with that
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>>253046437
it has a halo so I'm assuming it's buzz-buzz
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>>253048118
The trailer's nearing 400,000 views. They'd have to be living under a rock or terrible at their jobs if they don't know by now.

Nintendo knows about Project M, they do nothing. (it was confirmed during the invitational thing that they do)
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>>253048019
thank you for keeping up with this civil debate
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>>253048227
>I can't grasp the sum of my work and apply it against market patterns and label it accordingly

Opinion discarded. You are a talentless shit.
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>>253048308
But Buzz Buzz is a Bee
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>>253048375
This might be a rumor but I heard from some people doing remixes that they might have the samples used in the music actually licensed.
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>>253048521
Any info on that?
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>>253036864
http://earthboundcentral.com/2008/04/info-on-mother-4/
http://earthboundcentral.com/2011/04/shigesato-itoi-discusses-mother-4/
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>>253048457
Only in America. He was referred to as a rhinoceros beetle in japan.
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>>253048227
But it is trivial.

Here, I'll create some effective and attractive Mother fan game names.

Stepmother
Motherearth
Mother: Renaissance
Grandmother
Oh Mother!
Motherly Quest
Mother: Penis In My Butt
Mother Fucker
That's A Baaaaad Mother Right There: The Magic Cake Story

See? Nothing to it.
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>>253048457
A bee he is... not.
If anything he could look like a Dung Beetle because of Porky's parents.
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>>253014761
If it's anything like the other 3, it will be subpar and overrated as fuck.
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>>253048457
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>>253018484
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>>253048709
I think "Mother: Tribute" would've worked well
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>>253014761
What do you think?
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>>253048748
>>253048775
I always took it that despite his looking like a bee, he's not just a bee.
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>>253036586
He actually said, "I would like to be the player for the next game."

He never said, "Hey fans, go make the game, I give you the rights."

As for the game, I fucking bet it will come out as deviantart fanfic tier and will focus on being 2deep4u, instead of silly and charming like it should be.
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>>253048939
Then you are shit at thinking up good titles.

The issue with using a title like that is this:
>That name sounds fucking stupid.
>Why not just call it Mother4?
>Father? The fuck? The games are named after the Beatles, Father is just a bad joke
>Mother Gaiden, what is this a game about ninjas?
>Stepmother? The protagonist isn't even a redhead

There is literally no good name to call it other than Mother 4 if they want to make a fan game that is true to the series.
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>>253044882
I think that might be referencing the whole man and nature theme of the game. Lucas and the crew are pretty much technology free prior to Pokey and the Pigmen doing their thing. Lucas might seriously just not know what a rocket is.
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>>253049363

You're "literally" an idiot
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>>253049432
One of your battle items is called a rocket
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>>253049570
I don't know man, I played Mother 3 like years ago and stuff.
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Mother Faux
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>>253049363
>implying Step Daughter isn't objectively the best name for the game
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>>253049363
>if they want to make a fan game that is true to the series.

What a bunch of arrogant prick.
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>an inactive thread full of nothing but bait and bullshit manages bump limit
That's something.
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>>253049776
The nerve of those faggots
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>>253047651
>>253047762
>>253048256
>>253048294
>When asked about his thoughts on a Mother 4, Shigesato Itoi responded by stating that he had no plans to make such a game, and that "this time, I'd like to be the player." He also commented that if anyone said that they would like to make Mother 4, he would tell them to "go for it".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_3

In the Development section.
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>>253050114
>>253048256 here
I was saying that it would be stupid to hold that against them in the case he didn't say that because they still never ever said they were making the one true Mother 4
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>>253046640
I just read the whole thread, but when they are proven wrong they don't even acknowledge it and proceed to cry for the same reason
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>>253050541
Using the name Mother 4 kind of implies that
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>>253028162
Holy shit, this might actually be the most pathetic thing I've read on /v/. Impressive work.
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>>253050615
No it doesn't. Have you even read the thread?
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>>253050114
>He also commented that if anyone said that they would like to make Mother 4, he would tell them to "go for it".

I've read the interview regarding the Mother sequel, but I can't remember this part.

Also

>NAGATA: In other words, you wouldn’t mind if someone other than yourself made it?
>ITOI: Right. For example, when I watch a good stage play, that’s MOTHER 4. Even if they never intended it to be that way.
>http://earthboundcentral.com/2011/04/shigesato-itoi-discusses-mother-4/
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PROTIP: THE NAME "MOTHER" IS NOT COPYRIGHTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

IT IS ONLY COPYRIGHTED IN JAPAN

THE GAME IS BEING DISTRIBUTED IN AMERICA

SOURCE: The fucking patent office. You fanboy fucks make me sick.
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