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MELEE AT EVO POST ACTION REPORT HUNGRYBOX RETAINS GOD STATUS

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MELEE AT EVO
POST ACTION REPORT
HUNGRYBOX RETAINS GOD STATUS
AXE IS UNDISPUTED BEST NOT GOD IN THE WORLD
LEFFEN AND HAX ARE OVERRATED

FOX STILL WINS LOL

NOW SOMEONE FUCKING NETPLAY ME
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do you think this is the end of melee? they have to move onto the Wii U version next year right?
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Was that booing?
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>unironically using lol
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first for real fighting games coming up
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>10 more years

Ninty IS going to push Sm4sh and you are going to like it.
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mango is such a qt
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Something is about to happen..
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>>253013071
If Sm4sh is shit Melee will continue probably
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>>253012939
Was m2k using scarflard's Scarf?
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>>253012939
>>253012939

Mango is fucking sexy holy shit.
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Anon ripping his door open when?
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Hbox and Mango both have my respect

They both seem like people are happy to be where they are and happy to be playing the game.
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Its over

Now fuck off to reddit and /vp/ you shit cancer stains
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It saddens me how Hbox is usually the killer of hype. I want to see people enjoy the GF more at such a big tournament.
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>>253013071
Nintendo will cockblock Project: M and melee next year and force Mr. Wizard to have Sm4sh there instead.
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>>253013091
it's le epic meme so it's ironic
:^)
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>>253013071
Nothing will ever kill melee.
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Armada is literally the physical embodiment of Salt and Vinegar.
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120K Waiting for marvel.
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>SPECIAL PRESENTATION
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Mango off to fuck some Nevada's Trannies

and smoke some crack
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M2K WITH SCARF FAGS POWER STILL GOT BTFO
HOW BAD DID ZERO DO?
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Shittiest tournament this year

MLG > KoC > Evo

Hbox killed all the hype.
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hahahaha what the fuck this dudes crying
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>gaming glasses
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>>253013071
It's just Brawl 2.
Also Prog is about to announce he has terminal cancer
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>>253013071

Yeah for a year, then everyone realize the new game is shit and we come back to melee in the 2016.
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At least Hungrypaco didn't win, right?
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WE LOVE YOU PROG
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>crying
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What
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TURN YOUR MIC ON NIGGER
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>Fox wins
>Crowd applauds politely

Who else is ready for Melee to be replaced.
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>this fucking nigger
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>crying
nigga it's just a party game
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>Crying nigger
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Welp. Time for Zero vs Vergil, the Smash Bros of fighting games.
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>this sad guy
>this happy music playing
lel
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>>253013276
It's just them thanking Prog who's quitting.
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>>253013192
They are friends.
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>Everybody is happy and smiling
>M2K and Armada standing awkwardly and pushing up their glasses in a wave of autism

What the fuck, man.
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EVERYONE CRYING
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WHAT IS GOING ON?
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I can't hear shit over the music
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I honestly can't hear what he's saying
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what the fuck is going on right now
can't hear over the stage music
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Yo where's the marvel
Why is this nigger's mic so quiet
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>Melee theme playing over the gay speech
based
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Cry more nigga
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Goodbye Prog
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In all seriousness, why is this shit allowed? Melee takes far more time to play through Top 8, more than any other game (including button checks).

Why did they settle on 4 stock?
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I CAN'T HEAR SHIT NIGGAH
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>>253013232
but marvel is about to start
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whys prog so important?

Is he going to die>?
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>>253013525
>epic
>the ughs
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dammit, the audio was off

But it's an award for Prog.
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>crying over a party game

Fucking autists i swear
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>>253013397
AutismKing is friend with Scarflards?

seems about right
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suday-lytlc
>Prog
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>>253013565

He has colon cancer.
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>>253013504

what's the deal with the nigger crying??
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Wait, what happened to Prog?
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OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTION TO THE
FIGHTING
GAME
COMMUNITY

EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT FUCKERS
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rip prog
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>>253013403
Do you wear glasses? Pushing them up isn't a big deal at all.
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>>253013591
He's crying because his friend has cancer.
You're a prick.
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>>253013565
He's retiring because of medical issues so maybe. Think he has some mild butthole cancer or something
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he has bonitis
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POST YFW AT M2K SALTY AS FUCK FACE
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he got an award because he has ass cancer

where's wifes award?
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>>253013641
ass cancer
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>>253013561

Good

But fighting games are discussed in the evo thread not here

>>253012936
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WAIT I'M NEW TO FGC
WHY IS PROG LEAVING
PLEASE RESPOND
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>>253012939

So why wasn't this fat fuck in Evo?
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>>253013557
Most matches last like 2 minutes. the only reason it takes so long is because HBox and niggers stall like a motherfucker when playing,
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Tears are for queers.
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>>253013732
This. Wife deserves it more. Muh retirement. On top, Prog is a shit tier commentator.
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Why was he crying? I couldn't hear what he was saying.
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>>253013565
Colorectal cancer.
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>>253013775
hes dying
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>>253013729
BOTH HIM AND ARMADA I AM CRING
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Didnt mango win last year, this is so boring, how do people watch this, isnt he top player ever at melee
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>>253013775
Reminder that Smash is not a part of the FGC autism hugbox.
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>tfw Smash 4 replace melee @ evo 2015
feels good man
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>Fox wins

10 MORE YEARS
10 MORE YEARS
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>>253013606
They are, apparently M2K has been training Scarfland and that's why he improved so much.

A friend of mine is a journalist and has been in contact with ZeRo after an interview, he and M2K are hanging out all of the time.
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>>253013641
>Wait, what happened to Prog?
He's dying and unable to continue commentating. He loves casting tournaments but it's too painful for him to be able to do it anymore.
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>>253013780
He didn't make it out of quarters. Got wrecked off stream.
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>leaving at Melee's last year

How fitting.
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>more crying
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>>253013780
He was. Lost in melee but got 1st place in Project M.
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>>253013885
WHY
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Don't forget. This is also the end for aMSa.
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>>253013780
too busy fapping over zero samus
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>>253013780
He was, he just got eliminated because he's bad at Maylay.
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the crying went from hilarious to sad, sucks that this dude has cancer.
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SO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?
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>"Yet"
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What an awkward ending
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>prog leaving
Dam this hits the community hard.
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>black people
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>>253013932

That's god damned hilarious.
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>>253013903

Him or Armada

They're even, Aramada was just fucking around this year for some reason.
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>>253013767
>Implying Smash not fighting game.

Mahvel should go to the other thread because this one is for Melee, not because casual elitist's segregation that died in 2007 except on /v/.
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>>253013978
why? too espense?
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>>253013974
Terminal autism from spending too much time in the Smash community.
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>>253013916
Autists must remain together.
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>>253013913
Let's hope it has some advanced techniques. So advanced that it will last 10+ years just like melee did
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PROG GETTING 4STOCKED BY CANCER

RIP
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MAHVEL TIME
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>>253013775
Health issues. No exact reason specified.

Last year he barely made it to Evo because he passed out trying to get in to his house.
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Alright seriously what's wrong with prog?
No memes please.
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Prog...
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LOL
THAT WAS THE ANNOUNCEMENT
MY SIDES
NINTENDO WASN'T THERE
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>>253013974
He has AIDS because he's a faggot.
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Hbox singled handedly ruined a dying negro and a cute japanese traps final tournament with his anti-hype campy play style.

What a faggot.
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MARVEL NOW
GET HYPE
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THAT was the special announcement? Prog has ass aids?
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Would have been nice if they fixed their audio when they gave D1 the mic.
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>>253013903
>>253014065
Mango won last year, too, but has been trounced by Armada a few times during the year since then.
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>>253014180
Cancer
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>>253014180
Colon cancer
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>>253012939
RIP SmashNigger
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>>253014180

colon cancer

RIP
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Fox is such a fucking boring character, wish anyone else would've won.
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>>253014180
Ass (colon) cancer.
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>>253014123
I guess.

ZeRo is a cool guy according to my friend.
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>Mahvel getting ready
So what were we told to wait for?
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>>253013775
He has medical issues.
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>no announcement from Nintendo
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>>253014180
No specific reason, but when there's 'no specifics' it's most likely cancer of some sort.
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>>253014096
He has to go back to Nippon and become an alcoholic salaryman.
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>>253014065
He wasn't fucking around at all, HBox is simply better than him at the moment.
Peach counters Fox well, Fox counters Puff well, Puff counters Peach well.
They're the Trinity right now.
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>>253013247
You sure do like reposting this. Guess DOTA is the most competitive game, right?
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>>253014180
I don't think he has mentioned specifically what it is. Some kind of disease that exhausts him so much he's quitting the scene next near for health reasons.
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>PEOPLE EXPECTED NINTENDO ANNOUNCEMENT
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Wait, I couldn't listen his speech, then my stream lagged

What did the black guy said?
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>>253014180

http://smashboards.com/threads/wynton-progducto-smith-to-retire-from-commentary-after-evo.359337/
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>>253013903
yes, evo champ for two consecutive years now
all time goat better than m2k armada and shitbox
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>>253014317
>I'm going to samefag until I get a serious reply
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>>253014349
No he mentioned it on his Twitter.
It's colon cancer.

>>253014328
What were you expecting? They're revealing a newcomer in literally hours.
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>>253014487
He said he has 3 days left to live..... That's why he's retiring.
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>>253014298

I doubt that
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I don't even like smash and that was sad. His commentary was pretty fun.
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>>253014487
free watermelons for everyone
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>>253014487
They presented an Outstanding Contribution award to Prog.
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>>253014230

True, it's just that when Armada and Mango fight it's the closest level of skill meeting seen in smash.

That's why people wanted armada and him to be in the champion finals, because the fight would have been great.

Sadly Armada was fucking around with young link for some reason.
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>expecting an HD melee release or new character reveal
>got ass cancer
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Armada and M2K were super salty HOLY SHIT.
Hbox took it better than expected.
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Caught this amazing screen-shot.

Throw some fucking text on there, bitches!
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>>253014471
well i mean they got STREETPASS from sakurai and reggie. not a spotpass, meaning that either those two are actually there or had their 3ds there
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>>253014682
Get cancer and die - As said by a famous man
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>>253014692
Hbox knows he's shit so he better be happy as hell for making it to 2nd place.
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Not colon cancer whatever it is.
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>>253014682
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>>253014180

Why did Prog quit playing anyway?
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>>253014747
Or a Nintendo employee gave those Miis for free.
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>>253014714
Where the fuck can I buy a Tom Cruise t-shirt?
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>>253014253
>>253014276
>>253014296
>>253014575
>>253014682
I said no memes shitlords
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>>253014638

He can't use Peach against Puff, afaik
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Another motherfucking fox victory.
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He got cancer watching hungrybox play
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>>253014835
He never played
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You guys are assholes. This man has been part of the community when it was on the brink of death to EVO mainstage. Him leaving hits these people hard you jerks.
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>>253014894
Team Curse
I'm disappointed too
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>>253014816
this mad autism, holy shit
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>>253014917
Like I fucking said, it's cancer of some sort somewhere.
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>>253014638
The Peach/Jigglypuff matchup is fucking god-awful. Hbox would trounce him every time, which is why he learned Yink to try to shamelessly camp him out. This is honestly the first time I've seen Hbox beat his Yink.

It was a tricky situation:
I wanted Hbox to beat Armada because, like I said, I've never seen him conquer the Yink before.
But I wanted Armada to beat Hbox so that we could see Mango/Armada again.
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>>253014824
>>253014917
https://twitter.com/progducto/statuses/481458364690735104 is the sauce, by the way.
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wait what kind of cancer is it? i thought its impossible to get cancer that young
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>>253014579
mmmhmm.
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>>253014978

He was a Falcon player.

Not at Isai or Darkrains level or anything but still
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>>253014917

Well, then I dunno. Go ask him.
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>>253014917
>implying that isn't what he WANTS you to believe
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>>253014714
Hungrybox seems pretty chill about the whole thing.
You think they can be nice to each other now?
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>>253014997
>taking degenerate /v/irgins seriously
Prog is amazing, but don't come here expecting empathy.
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WHAT WAS THE ANNOUNCEMENT?
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>>253014196
>cute Japanese trap
Literally who?
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>>253014997
I expected autistic levels of asshole-ishness, but Prog is fucking dying, and /v/ can't stop shitposting for him. Fuck this community man.
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>>253014816

ASSFAGGOTS do it for money
Fightanfags do it for glory, passion, and love of the game.
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>>253015078
>I make shit up so therefore its true

4 year old kids can get cancer, Americlap.
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>>253015030

i guess, Truth still stands that H-box can't consistently play and thus is not as good as Armada or Mango.
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>>253014894
>Tom Cruise shirt
my fucking sides

>>253014714
Sweet sweet screen-shot, anon.
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>>253015078
I think he said it was hereditary before.
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>>253015078
Fractal cancer
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>>253015078
foot cancer
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>>253015078
You can get cancer at almost any point in your life
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>>253015164
death
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>>253015203
>replying to the fucking autist

Just report him. He is doing it for free. :^)
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>>253015078
it is unless you're gay
sadly he chose to be gay
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>>253015078
Its called the genetic defect of being a nigger
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>>253013565
>Is he going to die>?

We're all going to die, Anon.
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>>253014997
Yeah that's nice.
Now let's get to the real fighting games.
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>>253015164
Thew announcement was someone got ass cancer
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>>253014714

These guys are hispanic?
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>>253015124
>seems pretty chill
>niggawut

HBox looks like he's about to shove that trophy right up Mango's ass!
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>>253015295
>He is doing it for free. :^)
LAMO
WREKT
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>>253015295

Lol it's still the same guy doing it for free?
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>Smash autists really think that Nintendo isn't just promoting this shit to hype up Sm4sh
>Implying if Nintendo even bothers with EVO next year it'll still be for an old game they can't make any money on
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>>253014816
assfaggots confirm they are the worst community in gaming every time they open their mouths

you faggots are worst than bronies
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>Everybody complaining about Fox winning
Fucking inverse-tierwhores.
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>>253015021
If a tumor is benign, isn't it not cancer?
>>
PIKA
WHEN

;_;
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>>253014816
Christ, you've got some blood in your stool, friend.

This is the first year the competitive scene has been recognized as legitimate by Nintendo. Since this year went so well (arguably), we can maybe hope that Ninty will start adding in pot bonuses for big championships like this next year.

Hell, the people at Nintendo probably didn't even know that was an option; they've been so disconnected from the scene for so long.
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WHERE WERE YOU WHEN HUNGRYBOX WAS REKT AT E3?
FUCKING SCARFLARD
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>>253015354
They prefer the term 'paisa', 'spic', 'beaner'
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So as far as best in the world goes:
1. Mango
2. Armada
3. Hungrybox (I hate myself for doing this)
4. M2K
5. PP
6. Axe
.
.
.
978. Goku X-treme
979. Hax
980. Leffen
This list seems pretty accurate, right?
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>>253015213
I'd have put Hbox below PPMD as well, but after Evo I'm not so sure.

mew2king sure has lot it though
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>>253013916
>M2K has been training Scarfland
what the fuck? was scarflard even at evo?
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>>253014997
>This man has been part of the community when it was on the brink of death to EVO mainstage.
And then we saw people go over the brink as the finals took so long
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What's so ultimate about mvc3?
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>>253015354
Where are you getting hispanic from their faces?
Serious question I can't really see it.
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>>253015380

I'd rather be poor and employed than a professional faggot (^:
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i hope prog gets better
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>>253014682
Wow he dodged a bullet there.
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>>253015078
jokes on you i'm 24 and got it.
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>>253015469
PIKA NOW
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>>253012939
>tfw no Smash Veterans trailer at the end of the tourney
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>>253015449
>Smash autists really think that Nintendo isn't just promoting this shit to hype up Sm4sh

>people even thinking that in the slightest

What kind of alternate dimension do you live in?
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>>253014835
Prog is a really cool guy. I'm just a random scrub, but he still played 1v1 with me for like 30 mins at a tourney a while back. Helped me out a lot, great dude.
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>>253015521
Yes. Made Top 64 I think, then was knocked out.
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MY INTERNET WHEN FUCKING OUT IN THE SMASH FINALS.
FUCK THIS SHIT, WHAT DID I MISS?
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>>253014380
>Peach counters Fox well
This is absolutely not true
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>>253015490
Hungrybox is better than Armada.
This is now official, he beat him not once but twice.
Convincingly.
He's number 2.
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>>253015449
>FZero-GX confirmed for evo 2015
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>>253015490
Leffen is so pissed that he lost that hes looking to retire now.
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>>253015591
OH
GOD
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I am hype for Yipes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-PCLO_g5Gw
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>>253015490
Switch Goku X-treme with Hungrybox and it'll be perfect.
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Here's the Nintendo thing/announcement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwobfEp1bPc
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>>253015614
One where Smash is a legit fighting game.
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>>253015662
Mango won
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So is the character reveal in 7 hours?
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>>253015662
Not much.
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>>253015490
>Goku X-Treme
>not 0
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Is Marvel worth watching? I heard it was boring and just a bunch of zero-deaths
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>>253015537
It was the Ultimate jew maneuver when they released a new version less than a year after the release of vanilla MVC3.
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>>253015490
>Goku X-treme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_1Ru7DHRNI
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>>253015541

Olive skin, hair texture and eyes.

Also Mango has an Hispanic last name.
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>>253015582
Are you better now, brother?
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>>253015751
>>253015754
Thanks based anons.
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>>253015490
>>253015701
this. I know you don't like the guy, but come on.
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>>253015658
geez training must've been a waste of time
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>>253015752
14 hours
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>>253015582

I'm jealous anon

hope you leave this hellish world soon
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>>253015490

Don't forget WestChokes.
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>>253015767
>250 hit combo
it sucks, no sarcasm.
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>>253015614
>TEN MORE YEARS! TEN MORE YEARS
hurr
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>>253015721

>playing a video game destroys my body

What the fuck?
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>>253015721
holy mother of anal devestation
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>>253015494
>>253015213
Yeah, the powerrankings are tougher now. I think I'd go:

Mango > Armada > HBox = PPMD > m2k

Unfortunately. I was pulling for the King to make waves this year, but he just can't keep his focus for a full tourny anymore, it seems.

And I've always been a DrPP fan, but he can't seem to say anything against Armada these days.
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>>253012939
>HUNGRYBOX RETAINS GOD STATUS
HB is such a fucking faggot, i hate him so damn much
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>>253015614
>Nintendo bans Melee
>Only allows Smash 4 with items
How bad would it be?
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>>253015662
HBOX BEAT ARMADA TWICE
M2K A SHIT
PIKA DA BEST
MANGO THE KING
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>>253015884
>>253015701
It's one tournament guys. Four days ago he was considered worse than Leffen. There's only so much a guy can move up on one performance.
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>>253015990
Stay mad
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time for something even more boring than melee
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>>253015701
Yeah, Armada is so fucked now that Hbox has figured out his Young Link. He has nothing to fall back to.
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>>253016013

He's an effeminate Korean swede hybrid.
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>>253016013
He has bonitis. Scarflard even called him out on it and all leffen did was whine and bitch.
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>>253016013
Video games are serious business. Just ask DSP.
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>>253016081
M2K moved to SoCal with his friend Sky so he can retire from tournaments, and focus on streaming. He doesn't have much longer in him. The stress is getting to him. He'll probably go to SoCal locals but thats about it. M2k is losing his competitive spirit.
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>>253016151
Resetting your router again? :^)
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>>253016170
He can try Fox and laser camp since he's way more play to win than Mango but I thing Hbox will be able to handle that if he doesn't go full fraud mode.
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>>253015896
He's absolutely shit at Melee, but has been improving. And he's one of the best at Brawl.

I think he will be top-15 material in one or two years
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>>253016125
It would be Evo 2008 all over again. Which was a total shit show that split Smash from the FGC to begin wtih.
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>>253016170
He has a pockect Fox which is pretty good. But I don't want him to fall to the 20XX cancer.(I'm a fox main too). Learn pikachu and become Axe 2.0?
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WAIT WHAT HAPPENED TO AMSA?
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>>253015490
>putting the legendary super saiyan that low
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>>253015740
>and please, no Johns
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>>253016330
>he reset it for free
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>>253014714
>text
Screen-shot by itself is great enough
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Getting hyped for tournament of all tournaments.
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>>253016443
Can't play competitively anymore. He can't support his family or something.
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>>253016443
Got like 17th or something.
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>>253015736
why are ghetto blacks so good at making hilarious commentary
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>>253016125
It happened with Brawl and Smash got out of EVO for a bunch of years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWWfOD9Cupw
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>>253015823
>Ken laughing/smiling the whole time
Who the fuck is this guy? Fucking lol.
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>>253016558
Source?
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>>253016443
lost and dead forever
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>>253016443
17th
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>>253016524

good point
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>>253015832
the kind I have actually doesn't really have a cure, some rare thing, but I've been in remission for a while.
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That is the face of autism
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>>253016125
It'd be fucking grand. Low items, no Pokes or ATs or Spicy Curry, no walk offs, everything else is fair game. 4 player ffa added as a separate tourney mode

It'd be exciting as fuck. Melee has gotten stale as it is. The best thing could happen is finding balanced rulings with items and less stage limitations through Nintendo's official sanction which would make people follow a better new standard. Grand finales no items maybe.
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>>253016151
its irrelevant tho
its not like 99% of people who watch either will benefit more from watching one instead of the other

all you do when you post is show how much of an insecure asspained assfaggot you are

one event that isnt assfaggots and you literally cant deal with it
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>>253016631
His twitter. I don't remember why, but it's something to do with money.
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>tfw hungrybox keeps killing tournament hype
pls leave
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>>253015106
Nah dude, Prog was a Dr. Mario main. He talks about it on his ask.fm sometimes.
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>>253015829
Olive skin is a Mediterranean trait, spics have this weird brownish yellow.

It's not like I know though, I guess they could be.
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>>253016309
What a bummer. He really was untouchable for a good year or so.

>>253016443
Tied for 17th, which is better than he did last year at Evo.

But I'm pretty certain this is his last tournament, because he hasn't convinced himself he can devote his life to the game (can't blame him).
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>>253016558
FUCK PROG
AMSA WAS THE MOST ENTERTAINING MELEE PLAYER
THIS GAME IS DEAD TO ME NOW
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GET HYPE
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>blatant meme references

Why is this shit acceptable?
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>>253016309
Honestly M2K needs to get his shit together in life.
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>>253016839

>Mediterranean

Who do you think raped south america?
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>>253016013
He's just being a Johning faggot as usual
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>>253016583
>ken never grabs any items

That's what fucks it up. They so used to it they can't stand to play differently.
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MAHVEL WHEN
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i hope Wobbles replaces Prog.
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>>253016574
He's Dominican you frick
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>>253016863
you still have axe and bizarro flame m8
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>mahvel time

well

It was good watching smash

that pikachu match was the hypest of the tourney, shame there's no announcement from sakurai or reggie

Time for 500hit infinites because marvel is boring as fuck
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>>253016129
>listening to Melee it on me
I watched that shit and they were all spouting retarded biased shit, their braindead opinions do not dictate who's "considered" top class especially the moron that is Scar, have you heard him commentate? He's a complete joke when it comes to things like that.

Before EVO HBox was coming out pretty even only ever losing to a single stock, now he's got the Young Link matchup down and it showed by him stomping Armada twice.
Three stocks and two stocks out the ass.
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>>253016863
Prog helped the community when it was in the fucking dark ages dude fuck off.
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Netplay thread when?
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>>253016908
He has a engineering degree or some shit. Smash is just his thing until hes sick of it. He's gone through college already.
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>>253016954


>Mahvel stream
>shitty rap song dedicated to it.

Holy shit mahvel is the niggest fighter.
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>>253016839

Hungrybox's real name is Juan, and Mango's real surname is Marquez.

It's not really that hard to figure out
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>Skullgirls is over
>Smash is over

Peace, niggas.
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>>253017074
Who said anything about Melee it on Me? Hungrybox was seeded lower than Leffen.
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>>253016856
I'm sure he could still play if there was an actual scene in japan
m-maybe smash 4 will have one and he will become the king of japan ;_;
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>>253017074
Scar is Mango's butt buddy. And while Mango is based. His fans are something else...
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>>253016936
Touche.
America is the melting pot though I just get bothered when everyone connects "olive skin" to spics.
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>>253017156
ALL Fighters are nigger-infested. I live in a 90% white area and whenever there's local fightan tourneys its STILL like 50/50 black vs everything else. I seriously don't get it.
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>>253017236
skullgirls barely even happened

fucking madcatz
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>>253017140
He has a two-year game design degree, but no engineering degree. He hasn't been to school in awhile.
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IT'S MAHVEL BABY

FUCK DA KNICKS
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>>253016729
Casualfag detected
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2015
WOBBLES COME BACK
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So what the hell was Reggie and Sakurai there for?
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Reminder that the E3 invitational and sponsoring EVO was just a publicity stunt by Nintendo. They don't give a shit about the tourney scene. They just used the tourney scene as a marketing platform.
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>>253016583
Wow that was terrible
>>253016957
He picked up a few but why would he even need to? He completely destroyed the guy
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>>253016583
>Surviving until 230%
God damn, I forgot how shitty brawl was.
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>Prog ded
>D1 partnerless
Is it time for TKBreezy and EE to take over the commentary scene?
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>>253015490
Where's Amsa?
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>>253017478
Of course, do you really think every company cares? That's what they are there for.
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>>253017448
>>253017448
ah ok, good to know
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>niggest of nigs is a commentator
Fuck this
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>>253017472
To have fun watching!
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>>253017261
Does Japan not have a scene anymore?
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>>253017259
Whoever decided seeding was doing all the same things as Melee it on Me, so I just assumed it was them or was helped by them.
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>>253016957

He still crushed him.

Are you retarded?
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>>253017543
>TkBreezy, Toph, EE, Wife, maybe Scar
Don't forget the god tier.
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>>253017481
because, it's fun

The invitational was hype as fuck Wish Nintendo had uploaded it or that there was any sort of 60FPS footage of the invitaitonal
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>>253017558
Somewhere between 15 and 25.
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>>253017558
Tied for 17th
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>>253017543

better than promoting fucking Scar or Toph
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>>253017662
TK is not God Tier.
No way no how.
Maybe in the grassroots, but not big ones.
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>>253017650
It's not like the seeding was unfair. Going by the most recent results you could make the case that Leffen was playing better than Hbox.
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>>253017425

it's just the genre of videogame that's insanely popular with black nerds.

I think it's because it screams "masculinity" and has the same elements that attract blacks to DBZ and Bleach.

It's mainly marvel and street fighter though.
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Can't fucking deny Mango is a seriously fantastic player.

I'd just like Hungry to win. He played absolutely astonishingly good there winning from a 2-0 disadvantage twice and manages to get to the fifth round in Grand.

Of course, Axe or aMSa would have been even better than that again, but let's be fucking honest for a second: Axe and aMSa would be utterly raped and left for dead by Mango and that's the ugly truth.
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>>253017679
The inclusion of items does not equal fun. Items can be fun but slow boring surviving at 220% gameplay is not fun.
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>>253017543
It's time for fucking home made waffles & D1 to create a new golden age of commentating
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>>253017543
They come in pairs:
Revival Era: HMW and Phil
Second Golden Age: Prog and D1
Smash 4 and onward: TK and EE
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>>253017585
I'm just saying. A lot of people thought they were legitimately extending a hand of support to the tourney community, but those people are delusional.
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>>253017857
Axe can take pikachu places becuase at worse pikachu is a mini fox with a slightly better upsmash. Yoshi has shit except compared to the top tier except maybe marth.
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>>253017857
>Axe would be raped and left for dead by mango
>Their most recent set was close as fuck and decided in game 3
Yeah, no.
aMSa prolly would get fucked though.
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So when's the next big event?
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Man I seriously can't believe aMSa is retiring
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>>253017857
The set Axe had against Mango earlier in the tournament was actually pretty close. 2-1 and Axe 3-stocked Mango in game 2.
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>>253017929
Good thing we are talking about items. More exciting to watch imo. Brawl has issues, sure, but items deserve a chance, if anything at least limited
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>>253017543
Wobbles needs to come back to commentator more. He's great.
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Who won Evo?
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>>253017857
Axe has played Mango extremely close this year.
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>>253017617
It does, it's just not huge and you have to remember all the major tournaments are in the US.
So even if it does have a scene, he's not going to make it big unless he travels.
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>>253018097
They will help if it means that they get money so don't be surprised to see smash 4 sponsored tournies not run by nintendo.
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>>253018272

Yup. Funny too.
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>>253018243

They've done items before.

Doesn't work. Doesn't belong.

It's best to just leave it at that.
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>>253018162
Next big Smash event?
>Super Smash Bros Invitational Tournament 2015
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>>253018290
Madongo
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>>253018290
Fox
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>>253018162

Zenith 2014

http://smashboards.com/threads/aug-2-2014-zenith-2014-melee-pm-64-register-here-brooklyn-ny.350467/
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>>253018290
Smash 4
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Why did it drop to 105k? Smash is over it should go higher
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The only way items would be fair would be if 2 items dropped from a visible timer on the screen and you could see all future items on the clock.
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>>253018436

MESSHU COMPLEE
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>>253018162
Zenith is first weekend of August.
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>>253018529
hahahaha
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>>253017857
>wanting faggotbox to win
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>>253018363
It hasn't worked. Doesn't mean it doesn't at all.

It does belong, I won't leave it at that.

Shit, I'm out of Oreos
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>>253018550

>Turn Smash into Halo 4

Yeah no thanks
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>>253018243
The community has tried items before and it makes the fast characters even more dominating. No items is the reason why jiggs/falcon are even viable. Put them in and they are horrible with most of the cast. The game becomes space furry,space bird, or trangender ninja. Brawl would be even more of a MetaKnight circle jerk fest with items.
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>>253015209
>assuming someone is American because he doesn't know something
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>>253018614
>Wanting Mang0Fox to win
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>>253016583
Wow this is fucking awful.
>running around at 250% damage
>Ken humiliatingly matched with a 14 year old nobody
>all around lame as fuck
Why does anyone prefer Brawl?
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>>253017857
Axe and Amsa aren't on the same level at all. Axe is a much better player and plays a better character. Pikachu SHITS on fast-fallers if he can hold his own in the neutral game. Axe nearly beat Mango earlier and 3 stocked him in one of the games. Fox is dead the second he goes off stage against Axe's edgeguarding.
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>>253018529
Are you kidding? Most fighting games barely pull in 60k. It's only at 105 thanks to Smashers sticking around.
Enjoy the free advertising you complete assholes.
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>>253018675
Mewtwo would be SS-Tier with items
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>>253018614
>Wanting 20XX to actually happen
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Brawl sucks but it's worse with items. Shit gets boring quickly.
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>>253018642

>It's never worked but that doesn't mean it won't ever will! I swear!

It's insanity. They tried it with melee. They tried it with Brawl.

Let it end. Items have no place in tournaments. They are there to dick around with in party settings.
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>p-playing with games is unbalanced
>s-smash 4 takes no skill
>Same person wins melee and smash 4 tourney
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>>253015701
and is at 15 to 3 in sets with mango, with mango winning 15 sets over hbox's 3. armada and mango are tied. armada is definitely better. doesn't matter if he lost to hbox, he's a better player overall.
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>>253018162
Schedule of Events
These are tournaments and events that CT travels to and streams for multiple games
* July 11th-13th - Evo 2014 (Melee)
* Aug 2nd-3rd - Zenith 2014 (64/Melee/PM)
* Aug 25th-28th - #SmashTheRecord (Melee)
* Aug 30th - Summer Jam (PKMN/Melee/Brawl/PM)
* Oct 4th - KTAR X (Melee/PM/3DS)
* Oct 10th-12th - The Fall Classic (Melee/Brawl/PM/3DS)
* Oct 18th - Rescue (Melee/Brawl/PM/3DS)
* Jan 30th-Feb 1st - Apex 2015 (All Smash)
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>>253018906
What?
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>>253018317
In Japan they don't play for money either.
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>>253018791
>not wanting a buzzword
is that what you're saying? because it doesn't mean much
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>>253018675

>transgender ninja

cant believe this is the first time I've read this
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>>253018736
>Axe is a much better player
Hold it right there. Go look up how to play Yoshi and you'll realize what level aMSa is actually on.
They're close but aMSa I think is better, especially looking at Axe objectively in his matches there were a ton of mistakes.
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>>253018778
I'm sorry you think that
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>>253018746
>its 115k now

SMASH FAGS

NOT EVEN

O
N
C
E
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>>253019042
Axe was too excited today. The type of whiffs he was making are not the norm. Axe is much stronger in neutral and has a better punish game. aMSa has god like reads but he struggles at adapting and mixing up.

Axe is A+ Class and aMSa is A- Class.
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I missed it all today. Please tell me Mango didn't win.
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>>253018778
Naw M2K has talked about it on smash boards. Mewtwo gets better with items(high tier if I remeber correctly) but so do the spacies and Shiek too. Mewtwo is shit without an item. The top 3 literally keep all their control options and get the advantages of being able to zone you like a bitch with items.
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>>253018958
>Next year it will all be Smash 4
Feels good
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>>253018831
There can be a number of possible setups with items. Just because one didn't work and was sworn off forever, doesn't mean something else can't. They would change the entire meta of the game, but that's the point, it's stale as shit. I'd point to 20xx but it won't matter, this December Smash4U takes over and Melee finally dies.
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Is Mango objectively the greatest of all time now?

>>253019283
Fox won lol.
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>>253019283
>Mango
>Ever losing
Come on man
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>>253019283

he won, but it was a very close match with Hungry-box, which we expected to get straight up raped.
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>>253019420

Mango loses to Armada
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>>253019283
He did and it was the most boring thing ever
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>>253019535
Not nearly enough
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>>253019410
Right now yes.
Hbox showing that 20XX is completely here yet though.
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>>253019042
aMSa is right up there in skill with the top 5 gods in my opinion, he just handicaps himself with Yoshi.

If he put the time he put into Yoshi into Fox, we wouldn't even be talking about Mango right now, aMSa would win all the tournaments.

20XX is indeed here and it's worse than I could have possibly imagined. Armada, aMSa, HBox, and Axe need to drop their "unique" characters and just start playing fox full time or else we are going to see Mango literally winning every single tournament.

Fox has reached Meta Knight status and this tournament has proven that. I love Melee but I'm off the bandwagon. It's the same small group of players in the final 8 and it's always mango with Fox that ends up winning. The game is extremely predicable and boring, the ceiling has been hit and it's time to put Melee to sleep.

I can't wait for Smash 4.
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>>253019410
Mango now is more dominant than Ken era Ken so I'd say yes.
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>people actually watch this Mahvel shit
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>>253019608

They're pretty even.
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>>253019535
>Mango loses to Armada
Armada wasn't even fucking close at MLG.
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Newfag here, I've never watched EVO before.

How much did the grand prize winner get?
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>>253019890
1
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>>253019404
The meta with items would be space furry,space bird, and zelda down b with the occasional Mewtwo.
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>>253019743

Brawl 2.0 is going to be unbalanced shit like Brawl was. Deal with it, nerd.
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>>253019890
About $120.000.
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>>253019743
>Fox has reached Meta Knight status
>Making this post again because no one believed your delusion last thread
>>
AMSAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>
Newfag here ago, EVO is the champsionships for smash, right?

There's no bigger event, i.e. it's like your superbowl, or world cup, right?
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>>253019960
>unbalanced shit
That's Melee too tho
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>>253019960
>This butthurt
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>>253019779

It is the niggest fighter.
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>>253019404

I'm picking up both versions of Smash 4 and will play it as long as I can but I bet the game will have another Metaknight disaster.
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>>253018791
>not wanting 20XX
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There was another guy playing yoshi at Evo, anyone know who it was?
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>>253019267
I can see how you'd think that, but I'd still put them in reverse, with aMSa being A+ and Axe being A-.
Those aren't thanks to just skill by itself, they're also on the character. Pikachu's neutral is much easier than Yoshi's and Yoshi is an extremely fucking high skill level character having a shit ton of tech that only applies to him and no one else. Pikachu isn't even close to that level.
Put in perspective I think aMSa is the better player, but still hasn't mastered his character. Whereas Axe is a really good player but has much better handle on his character and the options he has.
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>>253019996
For Smash Brothers?

That's pretty good, 120k is a good amount.
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>>253020054
more like the Olympics of fighting games
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>>253018686
He too must be an American.
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>>253019743
>aMSa is right up there in skill with the top 5 gods in my opinion, he just handicaps himself with Yoshi.

No he isn't. His punishes suck dick compared to the top 5 and he has a hard time in neutral. He makes some godlike reads though. Come on /v/irgins don't become the mangonation for amsa. I like him but he's not top 10 in melee.
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>>253019404
>Smash4U takes over and Melee finally dies
Yeah for about a year until everyone goes back to Melee again.
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>>253019743
I think project M could also be good if they'd just stop with all the changes and stabilize already.

But after watching this latest snoozefest, I'm absolutely through with melee.

GOODBYE, MELEE.
>>
It was great seeing Hungrybox doing so well. Much better than I expected. I actually started suspecting he had been sandbagging in previous tournaments to get people to not prepare for him, he looked so good.

People always say he is bad because he uses gimmicks or whatever, but he did some cool comboes, and it is really impressing how he is able to dodge Fox' lasercamping and getting close. Fox just jumps back and forth shooting lasers, and even has an 'Upsmash to win'-button, while Jigglypuff is doing real magic dodging all this and somehow managing to get close, and then pulling off some amazing combos. Hungrybox is really a great player.
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>Melee is a snoozefest
>Project M is unstable and keeps changing
Smash 4 please get here soon.
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>>253020367
>latest snoozefest

If Axe got to at least 2nd, I'd disagree with you but
god fucking puff vs. fox snoozefest
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>>253020407
>It was great seeing Hungrybox doing so well
If the whole finals wasn't boring as shit it might be
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>>253019404
They're sworn off because there's no way of knowing where they spawn as well as making the game extremely campy since it practically gives everyone free projectiles at no cost.
I'd like to see them come back though just to know how the metagame for it would really develop.

>>253019761
That's just wrong. Ken was untouchable, Mango has been beaten multiple times.
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>>253020175
Axe is literally on the cusp of being an S class player. He has the closest sets with the gods of anyone who isn't one of them. If the five gods are suddenly banned from entering tournaments Axe is the clear favorite at every event.
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>>253020597
The only thing that can save us is 64, save us 64!
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>>253018906
Dude what.

Mango wasn't even invited to the Sm4sh tourney.
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>>253020407
You don't get to be a top 5 player on gimmicks alone.
Hbox defiently has shit tech skill though. Those horrible wave dashes with fox lol.
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>>253020062

At least Melee is somewhat interesting to watch. Brawl is fucking awful >>253016583
And smash 4 looks almost identical in terms of speed, gameplay, poor balancing etc.
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>>253020757
Smash 4 haters don't need no logic
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>>253019404
>Smash4U takes over and Melee finally dies.
oh, you mean like with brawl? I admire your optimism, and I can only hope SSB4 has gameplay that just as satisfying/fun/deep as melee (if not more so) but I seriously doubt it. Sakurai has made a couple concessions to the competitive players, but I don't see him allowing any more advanced techniques ever again. It might be a little faster paced than brawl, but I think it'll have the same low skill ceiling. Call me a pessimist
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>>253019848
He beat him at Kings of Cali.
No johns.

>>253020054
There's MLG but that's sellout garbage EVO is the Super Bowl.
2nd place would be Apex.
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>Ken is coming back
>Isai will never join him and dominate doubles again
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>>253020597
Smash 4 is bound to be a brawl 2.0. Get ready for greninja/pikachu/ZSS to break the game.
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>>253020948
> no 64 at evo
> no 64 at mlg
:^(
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>>253020947
>MLG is sellout garbage
Elaborate please
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwobfEp1bPc

I don't care if it's just a marketing plug, this video from Reggie is cute as shit.

Did they play this on the Evo stream or something and I missed it?
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>P:M is shit
>Melee is stale
>Brawl is shit
>64 is dead
It's time for Brawl- to shine.
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>>253020948
>tfw Isai's episode of the doc
;_;
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>>253020914
Pessemist
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Who cares?
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>>253021142
> he lost all of his friends
;_;
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>>253020597
yeah, the downside of P:M is that things keep changing in the everlong quest to balance the game. It's still my favorite smash though
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>>253021129
>P:M
>shit
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>>253021129
I heard melee SD remix is good.
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>>253020607
I have high hopes for PM because there's theoretically nothing stopping it from becoming supremely balanced, allowing an entire roster of viables. Can no one else see this and want its sheer glory?
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>>253021094
Yes. It was right before the first match of top 8.
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>>253020148
Vectorman. He was considered the best Yoshi in the world and really famous for it before aMSa stole his spotlight. Hopefully he'll take over now that aMSa retired.

Code thingy:
eggs ntsAren
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>>253021142
That documentary was so fucking melodramatic. They made it sound like isai killed himself or some shit.
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>>253021129
>P:M is shit
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>>253021328
How is Kirby there?
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>>253021419
Vectorman isn't nearly as good as aMSa though.
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>>253021472
It's meta game is evolving into a campfest and everyone has godlike recovery.
It's shit.
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>>253021472
Not him, but yes.
Just cute uncut tiny ones :3
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>>253021467
In a way he did, he more or less killed his Smash persona and left the community that missed him because it became too serious with MLG and he just wanted to have fun with friends

The animu pictures were pretty bad though
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>>253019743
>F-Fox is the best character guys, he always wins
You really don't know shit about the game. Mango is just a great player, he won a shit load of times with Puff, he dominates with Captain Falcon and he does great with Fox. He's also expressed interest in picking up Marth and if he does guess what? He'll continue being great with him too.

Armada has also beaten Mango at times and he definitely struggles with the matchup so if Fox was such a dominant force like Meta Knight was then we wouldn't see the different characters that we saw in EVO because it would have just been 8 Foxes.
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>>253021560
He's been playing a lot longer though. I'm surprised nobody knew who he was.

Kind of like nobody knew fucking Silentwolf but everyone was sucking Leffen's dick.
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>>253020367
The changes are trying to stabilize the gameplay in terms of balance. They've done a damn good job so far - fox and falco are still above the others, but the gap is much narrower than in melee. They're doing gods work taking melee's gameplay and making almost all characters viable.

fuck zelda though. that cunt can go to hell
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>>253019042
Yoshi has character exclusive tech but Pikachu does as well, and Yoshi's isn't as hard as people make it out to be, it's just very different. Saying Yoshi is outright harder to master than Pikachu is absolutely not true. Both are two of the highest skill ceiling characters. Axe's mastery over Pikachu is ridiculous and overall there have been Yoshi's closer to Amsa's level than than any Pikachu is to Axe's level.

Amsa has a lot of trouble when people force him to go on aggresive and approach. Compared to Axe, Amsa has big holes in his play. Amsa's punishes are really good but his neutral game isn't that great. Honestly the MLG and EVO results between the two speak for themselves.

Amsa is an amazing player but he gets by a lot on people not being experienced with the Yoshi matchup and it showed at MLG where the sets were all 3/5 and his opponents kept adapting to him after the first few games.
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>>253021780
Silentwolf is shit though.
Literally got lucky in his pools.
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>>253021759
You forgot his Falco and his Mario.
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>>253021759
He has a decent Mario too.
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>>253021583
Thats what happens when you make characters into floaty spacies. The spacies are somewat balanced by the fact that they are combo food for the whole cast. Mario,Pit, and Mewtwo are floaty as shit and hard to combo with stupid recoveries, amazing combo games, good projectile game, etc.
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>>253021759
Is that why he chose to use Fox? Because he's so good with the litany of other characters in the game?
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>>253021891
Oops, mean to reply to >>253020175
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>>253021941
>Mango
>Mario
don't be silly anon
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>>253021939
>Silentwolf is shit though.
get out
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>>253016125

>My reaction whenever people bitch about characters, items, and levels in Smash

Except Fox, because fuck Fox
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>>253022034
He chose to use Fox because he likes playing that character and accepts the pros and cons of that character. It's really as simple that.
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>>253022064
>scorpion master will never return
;_;
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>>253022034

That's not even close to a proper usage of the word "litany."

0/10
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>>253021939
>Silentwolf
>shit
I want smash doc babies TO LEAVE NOW.
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I don't think 20XX is here quite yet, but Mango is making a very strong case for it with his fox.

Armada, HBox, and Axe are the only ones preventing total 20XX domination and out of those only Axe has a real shot of truly stopping it in my opinion.

Armada is a hell of a player and will always be a threat but I think he has hit a ceiling with his Peach. He was pretty even with Mango for a while, but Mango beat him pretty convincingly at MLG and KOC4. I think his era is done.

HBox is also a hell of a player but isn't even close to top tier. He had a very close set with Mango but relied on rest to do any kind of damage to mango and rest is very sketchy and he can't fly on that alone.

Axe is our only hope. He lost to mango sure, but he also totally dominated him in one of the sets. If he can learn to string that skill together for a whole match, he will go places. Axe/Pikachu are going to prevent 20XX and keep Melee at least somewhat interesting for a while.
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>>253022203

Gladly
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>>253022216
He chose Fox to prove he wasn't a one trick pony with his puff he said that himself.
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>>253020948
Isai said he'll give Smash 4 a chance, but I wouldn't expect much.
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All the advanced tactics from melee were basically unintended consequences, right? What are the chances that different unintended advanced tactics arise from kerfuffle?
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>>253022352
>He had a very close set with Mango but relied on rest to do any kind of damage
You mean like Hungrybox against any character that's easy to find rest set ups for?
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>>253016583
Reminder that the Smash community took the grand prize away from a 14 year old because NOOOOOOOOO THERE WERE ITEMS IT WASN'T FAIR KEN DESERVED THAT WIN
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>>253022449

Man that'd be so weird if Smash 4 ends up being viable.
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>>253022352
20XX won't happen because there will always be mindgames and differences in playstyle, etc. There's more to it than just perfecting technical skills
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>>253022537
L-cancelling was completely intentional. So were things like DI and SDI, although I don't know if you'd call them advanced techniques.
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>>253022537
Only wavedashing, and I guess moonwalking, are unintended consequences.

>different unintended advanced tactics arise from kerfuffle?
Pretty much guaranteed but that doesn't mean they will be useful in actual play.
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>>253022704
little did they know brawl was just a shit game with or without items
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>>253021891
That just isn't correct. Most everyone has character specific tech, but Pikachu's is absolutely not as difficult as Yoshi's and in order for Yoshi to be any good you have to use all of it in conjunction perfectly without whiffing and you could see a ton of whiffs from Axe on Pikachu that he got away with.

But I don't know enough as I should to be saying things definitively so I'll just let it go, but you really shouldn't imply that Axe isn't also skidding by on people's lack of knowledge of Pikachu.
It'll be an uphill for him now, I'll enjoy the show.
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>>253022424
Well if that's why then he needs to STOP being a one-fox-pony.

Seriously, someone tell mango to go play as Luigi or something. That would be far more entertaining.
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>>253022704
>Smash community
You mean Brawl community.
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>Nintendo forces major events to hose SSB4 instead of melee to promote the new game
>forced to use Nintendo's format of time battles with sudden death rules
>matches are now about camping out until sudden death and landing one hit before the other guy
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>>253022537

They weren't. The speed and physics of the game were made in such a way that allowed for stuff like wavedashing. Sakurai and co. knew about it beforehand but opted to leave it in. Brawl was tuned to be slower and inclusive as a response. I never really understood why since Melee accommodates slower play.
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>>253023170
>Nintendo makes no stages banned
>Everybody goes Kirby and uses his throw on the punch-out stage
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>>253023129
This was the year Brawl came out, there wasn't some great big split between Melee and Brawl players yet because the game was so recent. This was 100% the Smash community being shit and stealing prizes from literal children.
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>>253022216
This isn't true at all.

If you watched his interview after KOC4 you will know that he is a total tier fag. He gets asked about aMSa and says that he is a great player but will never win because he plays a shit character and limits himself too much and he flat out says he would wreck him because Fox has too many advantages.

He also USED to play characters like Jigglypuff yet he became as dominant as he is now once he started playing exclusively Fox. That isn't a coincidence anon. Fox is considered top tier for a reason.

Don't get me wrong, Mango is a hell of a player and IS the best Fox in the world, but he doesn't play Fox because he enjoys Fox and wants to have fun. He plays fox because he is a try hard and wants to win.
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>>253022352

>HBox is also a hell of a player but isn't even close to top tier. He had a very close set with Mango but relied on rest to do any kind of damage to mango and rest is very sketchy and he can't fly on that alone.

Stopped reading there. And you should just stop pretending you know jack shit when you're very clearly talking out of your ass.
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I can forgive the gunnar glasses but that fucking scarf. That scarf is honestly intended for infants or very small children.

What his wrong with this fat fuck?
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>>253023376
>there wasn't some great big split between Melee and Brawl players yet because the game was so recent
except there was
people like scar were shitting on Brawl from the first gimpyfish videos
and I've still never even found a source on that story. It's all FGC people saying it happened and Smashers saying it didn't.
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>>253023048
Axe said he avoids playing Pikachu, and only uses him in big tournaments, because he don't want people to get skilled against Pikachu. So he is actively manipulating people's matchup experience and is actively thinking about it. This is something Axe is aware of. Hopefully he will continue doing good. I'm hoping Pikachu has just been really underrated and actually has what it needs to stay relevant even when people get matchup experience
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>>253023349
> I never really understood why since Melee accommodates slower play.
Same here. I don't understand why others on /v/ argue that sakurai is just trying to cater to the casual audience. The inclusion of in-depth tactics does nothing to prevent casuals from playing in a non-competitive way. Melee was great because it could be enjoyed as a party game AND as a competitive game. Best of both worlds because they're not mutually exclusive.
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>>253023505
He owned the world with Jigglypuff for like a year and a half at least. If that's not being "dominant" I don't know what is.
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>>253023505
You act like he was only doing moderately well with puff. He was raping everyone back then too.
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>>253016620
>Who is Ken
fucking hell
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>>253023747
His Jiggs was on cruise control, no one knew the match up back then.
He'd get stomped now, which he has actually a little while ago.
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Netplay thread when?
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>>253023968
I meant who is Goku Extreme.

"Who the fuck is this guy?" was supposed to be what Ken was probably thinking.
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>>253023170
Not really. Outside of MLG and EVO the other Melee nationals are all grassroots. Melee has so many tournaments this will never happen.
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>>253024057
>no one knew the matchup
It's not Armada, it's just that nobody knows the Peach matchup, right?
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>>253024057
Aww gee it's almost like the meta changed or something. I wonder if that will happen again it will
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>>253024160
You realize Armada and Peach have both been around since the Ken era.
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Armada,M2K,and PP looked super fucking defeated.:(
Expect on of them to retire.
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>>253023679

because Sakurai was spiteful towards competitive play, he didn't understand the drive.

He might now, who knows?
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>>253023048
Pikachu still has hard to use things like his up air hitboxes and quick attack that Axe almost never fucks up. He makes Pikachu look easy but even just how little he kills himself with quick attack is a mark of his mastery of the character. Pikachu is also generally difficult to play in the neutral game due to a lot of shitty things like poor reach, worst shield in the game, among the worst grab ranges and almost everything he has being crouch cancelable. Amsa does whiff stuff also, he even admitted his neutral game isn't that good and that he depends on the gimmicks too much.

And Axe isn't skidding by on people's lack of knowledge of Pikachu anywhere near as much as Amsa is on Yoshi. That's a fact. He's been around a long time and almost every top player has played him several times. He adapts and plays around stuff like Armada crouch cancel down-smashing every fucking hit because he's good, and he's much more secure against the top players than Amsa because people knowing how to play against Pikachu doesn't mean they can do anything about his edge-guarding or overwhelming aggressive style of play. Amsa by comparison is a lot more defensive and gimmicky which holds him back when people force him to approach and know how to work around Yoshi's strengths.
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>>253023170
reminds me of the old nintendo pokemon tournaments.
>oh, you guys almost universally like to play singles with legendaries banned?
>ha ha, FUCK YOU, doubles with all legendaries allowed
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>>253024358
>Aramada
Sponsored
>M2k
Sponsored
>PP
Sponsored
>Leffen
Sponso- wait
>not sponsored
WE HAVE A WINNER
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>>253024160
No lots of people played Peach back than in the NA with wife,pinkshinobi,etc. People knew how to fight peach and still do. Armada just plays her as optimally as a human being can.
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>>253024427
I don't get it. I'd rather imagine a world without space furries
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>>253024427
>Melee HD comes out on eshop
>it's PAL version
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