Tales of Thread everyone! >What is the best game in the serie?

vesperia is overrated

Also as a side note, he's a torrent I wanted to share for Tales of ACS

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>>252803451
I agree, but it's kinda fun, so I'll let it pass,

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I can't wait for Xillia 2.
I'm going to marry Milla.

>What is the best game in the serie?
VESPERIA 360

>Best Cameo Fight?
Tales of the Abyss' was pretty fun, so that I guess.

>Assuming you have both consoles, is it worth buying Vesperia 360 in english or Vesperia PS3 and not understanding Moon?
360 Vesperia all the way. Patty may be worth it, but not enough to pay $40 for a used game

>best game
Abyss for dat everything
>inb4 I didn't like Anise/Luke

>best costumes
Alvin's Casual look barring those retarded shoes
Code Geass set for Graces cast because it almost fits so well

>best cameo fight
I actually haven't done any of those

>>252803467
What's Tales of ACS?

Unrelated but I'm getting a "connection error, you may be banned" whenever I try to post while 4chan X is enabled. Anyone dealt with something similar?

>>252803950
>>inb4 I didn't like Anise/Luke
You mean "I didn't like anyone at all."

>>252803950
Tales of ACS is a fanmade Tales of Fighting game, just think Tales of VS. but Good

Also I'm being a little selfish here, because I got 80% in that torrent, but no seeders

>>252804075
Even people who didn't like most of the cast end up liking Jade and Guy if they actually finish the game and most of the hate is usually for Anise and Luke

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>>252803950
>abyss

>>252804149
Guess I'll check it out.

Any guarantee that it isn't lostboy.exe?

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So I had to force myself to finish Graces, the last dungeon was so horribly paced and I just wanted the game to be over.

I never did the F arc, should I pick it up again and go for it?

>>252804179
Jade is my main in Abyss, 2nd to Guy.

I just wish he had more non-casting moves.

>>252804302
Can't say it's trust-worthy, but it's much better than downloading the game from the official site where you have to download every single file from the site's server and hope you install the game correctly

>>252804426
I never did the F arc either. I hear it's really good though

>>252804149
By any chance, did you hear about ACS R? It's pretty much ACS, but rebalanced and with some nrw characters. It's in version 2.1 beta at the moment>>252803391
>Best game
Abyss ( at least in my opinion)
>Best cameo
Abyss

>>252804426
>I never did the F arc, should I pick it up again and go for it?
Its mostly just revisiting old areas with three or so new dungeons and stronger enemies. If you hated the last dungeon in the main story, the F arc's last dungeon will piss you off even more.
The only real benefit to it is unlocking everyone's Accel modes and carrying them over to the main game.

>>252803391
But Vesperia 360 is the best version.

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>What is the best game in the serie?
Vesperia

>Best costumes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4-lSE6NMJ8

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>>252803391
>What is the best game in the serie?
Eternia
>Best costumes?
Shit man, I don't know. I do like the Star Driver and sports team outfits in the Xillias though.

>Best Cameo Fight?
I loved the cameo bosses in Vesperia, but Xillia 2's cameo fight look dopes as hell to.

>Assuming you have both consoles, is it worth buying Vesperia 360 in english or Vesperia PS3 and not understanding Moon
Just get it in English goddman.

What the hell, might as well post.

>What is the best game in the series? No Vesperia PS3, we all know that's 11/10 top tier
Depends entirely on the player. I personally have Eternia, Symphonia, and Vesperia as favorites, but the others like Abyss aren't bad either. Hell, in general very few Tales games are outright bad.
>Best costumes?
Abyss/Vesperia. At least they offered plenty, and in game as well, without having to resort to shelling out a bunch for DLC.
>Best Cameo Fight?
Going to go with Abyss if we're talking Team Colosseum.
>Assuming you have both consoles, is it worth buying Vesperia 360 in english or Vesperia PS3 and not understanding Moon?
Just my opinions, but I'd say yes to both. Especially if you play the 360 version prior to understand the plot and majority of the characters. The PS3 version is pretty friendly to non moonspeakers as far as gameplay goes, and offers an absolute ton of bonus stuff, and generally cool additions to the game as well.

>>252804589
I had no Idea it was a thing, I'll check it out.

Thanks!

>>252804426
This doesn't really work as well without the sound. Anyway, sure it's worth going through but you're gonna shit your pants when you get to the last dungeon of the F arc. And the last boss

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Patty is the cutest.

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>>252805080
>shelling out a bunch for DLC
Some costumes would never exist without being DLC though.
Although I agree that Xillia was a bit light otherwise, they should have at least included the beach outfits in the main game.

>>252804426
>webm
Cool, now find one with everytime he mentions friend or friendship.

On that note, I didn't find the final dungeon for main arc that bad apart from one of the rooms, but that's just me. I'd say go for it if you were liking the rest of the game.

>>252804641
Only part I disliked about future arc's final dungeon was the first section with the elevators. After that it was smooth sailing, and the warps you can unlock in each area to get to and from the shuttle were a really nice addition.

>>252805323
Patty is an absolute waste of my life, everytime she shows up I just can't wait for her to stop talking.

She's horrible.

Should I buy Xillia for $20 on Amazon right now or just wait til' Xillia 2 comes out?

Fight me.

>>252805405
It wasn't just the last dungeon really, from the dungeon on the other planet what's name I forget onwards I really thought the pace of the game just bombed, the dungeons were way too long and nothing was actually happening in the game for about 10 hours or something.

>No Tales of. game on Wii U
>No new Tales of. game on 3DS
>No Tales of. game for Xbone
>All good Tales of. Game on PS3

Can we all agree Baba is a Sonygger now?

Someone post the character polls, I literally just closed them yesterday waiting for the next Tales thread

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>>252805329
Yeah, I mean I would expect stuff like the anime and non Namco costumes to be DLC, but come on. Graces only had two full sets for the main cast, with a few more here and there for a few characters, with every DLC one (that wasn't already in the game) being $4 a piece, meaning the entire cameo set costs a whopping $28, nearly half the original price of the game. And while Xillia did better on that angle ($3 each for 6 characters meaning it's only $18 for the cameo set, as an example; still bullshittingly high), they cut down on the ingame costumes even more, to the point there was only FOUR over THREE characters.

I mean for fuck's sake, look how many Abyss had ingame, as rewards from following sidequests or accomplishing various tasks.

>>252805837
If I'm not mistaken all the anime they use are Namco animes.

>>252805816
Baba's only doing gams on Sony systems for the time being since that's what the local fanbase is prone to wanting the games on. As for the XBONE in particular, good for him, I know the local fanbase out there found the situation with Vesperia to be a fiasco, between feeling they had to buy the system for about two games (that and Idolmaster; both by Namco), only for PS3 enhanced ports of both to come out on a system that was more prone to stuff like JRPGs and Japanese games in general. Hold outs for the games were quite happy, while people that bought the originals were pretty livid last I'd heard.

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I think I've made a terrible decision.

I imported Vesperia PS3 to play through and learn Japanese as I went along. Took me 6 hours to get through the opening scenes with Ted and Hanks.

I'm glad that Kanji is easy, but fuck Japanese grammar. I can't tell where the conjugations end, where the kana words begin and end, or even where the particles are sometimes.

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Every thread.
Every time.

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Entry-tier Tales pleb here
I saw some exhibition battles in Vesperia and I can say I was not very impressed.
Convince me how and why Vesperia is superior to the other games

>>252805816
>Baba is a Sonygger now?
>now
And 3DS is getting a crossover SRPG.

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>>252805816
>Releasing game series X for the console owned by the fans of series X

You don't say.

>>252805994
I suppose that's true, but do they only hold the licensing rights to them in Japan? I know with some series there's a different company that owns the rights for western localization or distribution.

>>252805440
Xillia's flawed, but still a decent game. I don't think you'd be too disappointed with it if it's only $20.

>>252806375
I don't think that getting the licence to use them outside of Japan is impossible, but I imagine it would be more effort than it would be worth.

There are difficulties in such things and lawyers are expensive.

I want Hearts R but Gamestop is shit and the localization seems bad.

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>>252806307

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I can't get into Tales franchise. Tales of Symphonia (GC) has been sitting on my shelve for centuries now.

>>252804426
Don't bother, I dropped and sold it when I got to the status dungeon part, burn I think.

>>252806345
If Baba released a collection of all the good Tales of game I haven't played on the Wii U, I would buy it.

>>252806238
Well you can use a guide and "claim" to have zero trouble playing the game in a language you don't understand whatsoever like every other chucklefuck who says it

Unless your fluent in Japanese then their is nothing superior about have to read everything from the dialouge to items from a guide because you can't understand what is being said. I will gladly play Vesperia 360 in English with less content because I can appreciate the game more than I would moonspeak Ps3 version

Not attacking you or anything btw

>>252806238
At least for most if not all the story related scenes, you have both text AND voicing (even if the character in question only has 2-3 lines pertaining to the main plot, like the receptionist at the Nordopolica Colosseum), so if you prefer one to the other while learning it's not too unbearable. Still, at the very least the actual gameplay isn't hard to understand, and there's various translation guides for the menus if you find yourself lost in the moonrunes.

>>252806625
And I wouldn't because I don't own a Wii U.

>>252805816
>now
Don't be an idiot.

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I still need to pre-order Xillia 2

What are some good 60 fps Tales of games I can play?

>>252806307
Watch the entire thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08dxBn4ZaCU

>>252806307
What did you watch, because you clearly didn't watch anything good to say shit like that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJDLdjuvO9I

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>>252806279
Such a fucking faggot

>>252806375
Pretty sure they own the rights to Code Geass at least here too, shame we didn't get those costumes

>>252803391
>vespira ps3.
I keep hearing everyone rave about this so i've been holding out on buying the original. is there really no chance of it droping in the west? ever?

>>252806914
I remember when Baba wasn't such a Sonygger and actually released good games on Nintendo consoles like Tales of Symphonia, Tales of Symphonia 2, Phantasia, Phantasia GBA, Tales of Grace & Tales of the Abyss

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I played Symphonia and it became one of my favourite game of all time, but I thought Abyss was horse shit. Am I ruined or are there more Symphonia-like Tales games?

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>>252807297
>Good games
>ToS2
>Phantasia GBA

>>252806707
Oh, I understand. I've played through the 360 version 6 times. Just decided one day that I might as well learn Japanese and Vesperia PS3 would be a great place to start.

>>252806734
The spoken dialogue really helps. It makes things easy to understand, and I know the scripts just from memory. I'm just trying to make sense of written Japanese, since that's a bit more practical for future use.

Never thought it would be so confusing, though.

>>252807398
Abyss was horse shit.

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>>252807229
They might not have localized them if Code Geass wasn't a huge hit. As far as I know Adult Swim didn't exactly due too many airings of it, maybe just the original run and one rerun season or something. Or the may have left it overseas because references like Asbel and Suzaku having the same Japanese voice actor might have been lost to the west.

>>252807297
>Symphonia 2 and Phantasia GBA
>good
Symphonia was released on PS2, both were released on PS3, the good versions of Phantasia were on the PS1 and PSP, the "complete" version of Graces on the PS3, Abyss had multiplayer on the PS2 so it was better.

>>252807398
Abyss is love it or hate it (I personally love it much like I do the majority of the series), and even people that like the rest of the games are pretty contested on it. Try Eternia or Vesperia at the very least.

>>252807443
Well, considering they have like three different "alphabets" for lack of a better word, I'd say that might be something to be expected. Have you have any past experiences with playing moonspeak games? Might need to consider starting out with something a bit lower level as far as the written characters go.

>>252806554
That's some DMC shit right there
>MA titty jiggle
O-o-o-o-ok
>>252807045
>>252807049
Alright you got me, I'll save up for an eggsbogs now t-thanks

>>252807516
I remember Code Geass being pretty damn popular a while ago but maybe I'm completely wrong

>>252807516
I don't know man, I don't watch anime so I've never seen Code Geass but that green hair chick is pretty QT so I'd buy her costume anyway.
She has a costume right?

>>252808116
Both of those posted videos are the PS3 version

>>252807424
I don't see the hate for Phantasia, but the combat system for ToS2 is sick

>>252807516
I've seen that image before but is that actually a Bamco rep who knows what he's talking about?

>>252808209
the webm is too
>>252808239
>I don't see the hate for Phantasia
it's the shittiest version that isn't the ios one

>>252807297
They used to release on whatever they felt like, but the majority of them did see Sony ports somewhere down the line since Sony's systems are what the Japanese apparently prefer for their console JRPGs (and with the PS2 at least, I can see why). Still, I think the Vesperia debacle really drove the point home to them against doing a lot of releasing on whatever they want, or with whoever pays them the most to develop for them, since the local fanbase was pretty miffed. And if there's one fanbase Namco cares about appeasing, it's the local one.

Also, I would NOT call Phantasia GBA good, especially compared to the other versions, both prior to and after it.

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I haven't played enough of them to really say a best one. Symphonia is my favorite thus far though. Part of it is nostalgia probably, but I really enjoyed the story and characters. I enjoyed the second Symphonia game too, though I know it was nowhere near the first game; as a side story, it's an entertaining little side jaunt, and despite the characters being so cringe-worthy at the start, by the end they've come a long ways and changed a lot.

Also, I've always been a huge sucker for the Genis/Presea pairing.

>>252804532
>F arc
>really good
Uh...maybe for some of the skits with Richard, but I personally wouldn't vouch for it otherwise.

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>>252808393
>I enjoyed the second Symphonia game to

>>252808372
>with the PS2 at least, I can see why
If the reason is that there are a lot of them on the machine already that's a stupid ass reason as they could just as well have been on the GC

Fucking mini-DVDs though

>>252804532
>>252808553
The only good things are the skits and PascalxHubert up the butt

>>252807820
I've only been learning for a little while, so I don`t have any experience with other raw Japanese games at all.

Hiragana and Katakana were easy to memorize, and Kanji is a lot easier than I thought, thankfully.

I probably should try something easier. I can find the Kanji through their radicals, but their conjugations, and the all kana words really trip me up. Especially when they're connected, and there's particles involved.

I'm not exactly the smartest, though, so I have no clue what counts as easy in this language.

>>252808116
As far as I know you need to have certain skills learned and equipped, as well as learn what artes chain well into each other to be able to pull stuff like that off. So don't expect to be able to pull off combos like that right off the bat.

PS3 version also allows for the Artes Sphere to map even MORE artes, doubling it from 8 to 16 at once. And that's not counting burst artes.

>>252808239
Phantasia GBA is simply the worst version of the game if you ask me. Much as I like the GBA, that was not the system to put the game on and try to localize. Probably would have been better if they'd held off until the DS to be able to better handle stuff like the combat speed, music quality, graphics, etc.

>>252808393
>as a side story
>side story
You're in some deep denial.

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>>252808209
I can't speak moon;_;

>>252808881
So are Bamco, they relegated it to "Escort Title" status

>>252808393
Is PreseaxGenis /SS/?

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>>252808665
I'm nowhere near finishing Graces, just passed the point where OH HOW SURPRISING RICHARD'S A DICK OR CONTROLLED BY SOME MALEVOLENT ENTITY OR SOMETHING, but

>PascalxHubert

??????????????????????????sonygger??????

>>252809110
It was never regarded as anything other than that, right?
Unlike Tempest, which was originally a mothership title that got demoted to escort title status - and if memory serves, that was the only one that got that treatment. I think.

>>252808654
I think the idea is that if one isn't the type to buy much besides JRPGs, the PS2 offered the most that generation. Not ragging on Nintendo systems at all (especially since I love the gamecube myself), but while the Gamecube had some good JRPGs on it (Tales of Symphonia, Baten Kaitos+Origins, TTYD, and a few more), it didn't have a huge bulk of them for those heavily interested in them.

>>252808712
I'd say maybe start with stuff aimed at kids and what kids out there would know, since Tales is aimed at teens and up. Maybe Pokemon or Dragon Quest. I don't know.

>>252809253
He also loves her smell.

>>252808393
>I enjoyed the second Symphonia game
Silly anon, you can't enjoy something that doesn't exist

>>252809182

Is there a shota? Is there a female? Yes? then it's /ss/

>>252809279
Is that supposed to be Japanese?

>>252809318
Oh, didn't know that. Never mind then.

>>252809416
Guess I'm in for some fun skits.

>there still isn't a Tales game where they actually show the in-game model of a protagonist jump during a cutscene instead of the half-assed fade to black, fade in as they awkwardly land

>>252809335
>since Tales is aimed at teens and up
Maybe he should try Graces which is so clearly aimed at kids

>>252803391
> Vesperia
> Good
Pick one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGXUh73SNJ0

>>252809647
Tales team can't into human animations in cutscenes, it's pretty pathetic considering how well everyone animates during combat

>>252809253
Grace's writing and plot handling really aren't that great, even considering how the series usually is. Still, it's fun to rag on and nitpick the dumber moments in it (issue being how bland it feels and that there are too many moments of it being dumb). Especially the moments involving King Dick Richard and his issues. At least from what I recall, it's been a while.

>>252809825
Symphonia 2's motion capture was pretty shit.

>>252808628
>>252809417
Ignoring it means not learning the lessons from it on what not to do in a Tales game.

>>252808881
The largest problem on perception with Dawn is that people were expecting ToS2, and they got ToS: Gaiden. It was never meant to be anything BUT a side story. That doesn't make it better, but it does mean people shouldn't have expected it to be better. It had a shoestring budget and cuts galore.

symphonia 2 wasnt that bad

>>252810004
It hurts too much.

Which was the Tales of game with the villian who wasn't really evil?

>>252809694
While I agree about Graces' writing feeling pretty meh, I'm pretty sure the written text still uses same characters aimed at people that are at the point they know or are learning the rest of the series tends to use. That said, I have not sen much of Japanese Graces.

>>252810151
All of them.

>>252810004
>It had a shoestring budget and cuts galore.
Might be a little off-topic, but is there a listing or something that details some content that was planned for Dawn of the New World but got cut? I like reading up on those things.

>>252810151
Dhaos did nothing wrong.

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>>252810163
>that feel when no Sheena gf
>that feel when no Judith gf
>that feel when no threesomes

>>252809872
My biggest issue with most cutscenes is Assbel's voice actor sounding fucking retarded and cutscenes being even more awkward than usual - everything involving King Dick the Totally-Not-Evil in particular.

>>252810004
No one's ignoring Tempest though

>>252810151
Abyss. It handled all the antagonists really well.

>>252810170
I'm not just talking about writing (though the fact that it starts out with a childhood arc and the major themes are friendship and protecting your friends kind of point towards it too). Pretty much everything seems like it was aimed more at kids. Color scheme, for example, is brighter than usual. They use pastel colors way too much.

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>>252810452
>non-canon breast size

>>252810151
Depends. Does having good intentions while going about shit wrong, or being a plain asshole still mean you're not evil? If so, most of them. Hell, in Xillia Gaius was barely even what I'd call a villain, and while I do think a clash of ideals with Jude and co was inevitable (in similar fashion to how Flynn and Yuri have differing viewpoints while still being respectful of each other), I think he only got final boss status since the last part of the game was fairly rushed and they needed an actual final boss.

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>>252810151
>Implying Mithos and Van were wrong

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Best Girl.

>>252810163
>>252810452
TEE-TEE
FUCK-ING
NINJA

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>>252810608
>They use pastel colors way too much.
You mean they use Pascal colors too little.

>>252810750
>Gaius was barely even what I'd call a villain
That's true and I agree with most of your post but making him the final boss basically made him seem really stupid since the biggest issue he was clashing with the party on was essentially solved in a way through which no party would really be harmed except for very rare cases

>>252810848
If only she didn't smell like shit.

>>252810275
There's this:
http://tcrf.net/Tales_of_Symphonia:_Dawn_of_the_New_World

Unlisted was the world map itself, and the items that would go with such a thing like Holy Bottle, which were in the game code but had no use without a world map.

Bear in mind though that there are some things that ARE in the game that the majority of players completely missed, like the Balacruf Mausoleum being entirely intact as an Emil/Richter dungeon.

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>>252810965
She probably smells of bananas

>>252810452
>Collete has obtained the Ironing Board title.

AMSAAAA

>>252811103
>Cutting Room Floor
Crap, I should've checked there to begin with.
Sweet though, thanks for the heads-up, Anon.

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Why do people play this generic animu casual shit Namco casually shits out because they're so easy to make and all come with ridiculous shit story that makes no sense to begin with?

>>252810828
I never used her because she was a retarded generic "nice" girl. As soon as she learned sacrifice I'd use it every fight where you had to use her.

>>252811413
Because people have shittaste? News at 11.

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>>252810828
She's comfy and qt and her antics make me laugh
>mfw she fell ontop of the trap at Fooji Mountain and started apologizing for breaking it

>>252811413
That looks like shit? What the hell is that background anyway? It looks like a cardboard cutout.

>>252810608
I think the idea was to try to emulate the watercolor style while applying it to the anime style they already had. And in addition, with it having been developed for the Wii first, they had to work around the limitations of that as far as color, movement, and models (I found myself really rather annoyed with how hair tended to move, especially coming off of how Vesperia handled in it a more fluid style; Graces' hair seemed more solid in comparison, especially for the male cast members), and while the PS3 version did add more content, it didn't do a lot to improve on the colors/models end.

>>252810279
Kind of a shame that as good as Phantasia was, a lot of the original ideas got cut or shifted around. Apparently the original unpublished script, "Tale Phantasia," would have gone more in depth than a game at the time would have allowed for (at least according to what I recall from the aselia wiki article on it), and thus I think a fair amount of his characterization/development was flawed in the presentation of the game as a result. Still, props to Wolf Team for what they managed to accomplish.

So is the Vesperia PS3 patch EVER getting done, or did the makers drop that altogether?

>>252811575
>shit looks like shit
You don't say.

Playing Tales of shit is worse than watching fucking Narudo. And I bet there are people in this thread that do both... Jesus.

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>>252809745

I can't even imagine living life with taste this bad. How many amazing things must you pass up because of having such a terrible perspective? It's almost pitiable.

>>252811575
Indoor beach. So yeah, the background is fake.

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Where's ma PS3 Vesperia fan translation? Checked the site and its been at 96% for months I think.

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>>252811485
That's pretty rude, anon

>>252811631
Last I'd heard rumors they were trying to get it so the patch wouldn't work without a physical copy of the game, so no piracy with the patch, but they'd been having a lot of trouble getting it implemented.

>>252811631
They're too busy trying to add fucking DRM and make it only work on CFW instead of being able to USB load on OFW.

>>252811902
She's a shitty main girl.

Who is the best girl and why is it Raine?

>check Kajitani's blog
>first 3 posts are autistic rants about the localisations
But where are the updates, man.

>>252812045
Could the latter actually be done?

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Tales of thread duties:
>WHY WERE WE THERE BACK TO BACK?
>Vesperia English patch when?
>SHARING IS CARING
>"With what game should I start in the series?" question
>MillaChopsHerHair.jpg
>Patty is the best loli
>Was the coffee hot or cold?
>7th-Popularity-Ranking.jpg
>/y/uri Lowell
>I BELIEVE YOUR LOVE, I BELIEVE IN OUR LOVE
>ToX2 Hot spring scene
>No dual audio, no buy
>Hail our lord and savior, Baba-san
>MELONS
>DEMON FANG DEMON FANG DEMON FANG DEMON FANG I MUST BE A GENIUS DOUBLE DEMON FANG
>Arche fucks like a tiger
>Bazongas
>WHY WERE WE THERE FACE TO FACE?

>>252811485

>wasting the best character in combat because of autism

>>252811631
They're so antipiracy they refuse to release before figuring out how to stop dem pirates.

>>252812045
You can't load modified anything on OFW.

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>>252812184

Guys, I'm torn up about buying a Tales game since they're on sale on psn. JRPG's are kinda hit and miss for me, though.

Considering that I absolutely loved, for example, DQ VIII but hated White Knight Chronicles, would I like the Tales series? And if so, what game should I start with?

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>>252812378
>best character
Yeah, those powpow hammer really hurt.

>>252809279
>this grammar
Geezus

>>252812441
Symphonia

>>252812425
You sure? I remember someone talking about it before.

>>252811327
http://tcrf.net/Tales_of_Symphonia_%28GameCube%29

Some neat stuff for the first one too

>>252812441
Tales games don't play like either. Look up gameplay for the games you can get.

>>252812209
I've heard they shelved the DS translation, if not outright abandoned it with the remake being localized. With the former, it's at least to give it time to sell out here, so Namco doesn't just decide to can localizing portable Tales games again like they did after Phantasia GBA and Radiant Mythology.

And yeah, as far as I know Kaji loves to rant about localizations. I remember him having one against Xillia, but that honestly didn't come off as too bad to me on the whole, so maybe as someone that does know moonspeak it hits him harder than most, or he's blowing things out of proportion.

Tales of Eternia/Destiny II isn't up for sale on the PSN, is it?

>>252811785
Vesperia baby with utter shit taste detected. Go crawl into Baba's ass some more to cry for that slightly better PS3 version of this pile of shit.

>>252812441
If you know Jap get Vesperia for PS3
Otherwise (or if you're asking only about the ones on sale) go for either Xillia or Symphonia.

>>252812441
Eternia, Symphonia, and Vesperia are all excellent starting points, just depends on what you have access to. And no, Eternia is not on the PSN, and physical PS1 copies cost a good $90 where I live. Fun game though.

Just note that Symphonia in particular stars with a bland premise, but begins showing signs of things not being what they seem after a few hours, before shit hits the fan about a third of the way through.

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>>252812462

>didn't know how to Grand Chariot, spark ball loop (ok so I forget what the balls were called), best spell cancel animations besides Kratos and Zelos

>>252812045
I think the real question at this point, is how many people actually have CFW.

I want it, but can't get it because my PS3 is a 160GB slim.

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>>252811986

Wow, they are gigantic cunts, huh? They want people to own a game never released in their native language? So, what, if I own the 360 version that still means I'm a pirate and want free stuff and can't use their precious patch?

Christ, I hope everyone working on that patch gets hit by a bus.

>>252812209
Hearts DS was canceled because of R m8

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>>252812910
>spell cancel
I never understood how that worked.

>>252812593
Why do you think you still can't install CFW on 3.56+?

>>252812508
>>252812734
>>252812626
Aight thanks, I'm gonna look up some gameplay for Symphonia and Xillia

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>>252806307
From what I played of Vesperia the game makes it extremely easy to stunlock enemies and then maintain the stunlock allowing players to rack up huge combos. In order to counterbalance that though the bosses in Vesperia have a fuckton of health compared to previous games like Symphonia and Abyss.

Xillia made it so that bosses can automatically break out of stunlock after a short while which a lot of people didnt like. From what I've heard though they changed in Xillia 2 where you can keep stunlocks going as long as you continue attack the enemies weaknesses.

>>252812676
Nope. I don't even recall it being on the PSN in Japan.

If you like JRPGs and haven't played Wild Arms, consider getting those since they're in the sale. Been playing the first one and it's been pretty good, with a lot of charm to it, and I've heard a lot of good things about the second game as well (barring the translation at times).

Everybody dies in Xillia 2.
The entire cast.
Especially your favorite character.

So i've been playing Symphonia HD and i'm at the part where i need to ride a boat to the main city (i think), but then i got sidetracked and now i'm involved in some quest on the mountain village and all the monsters are reking me silly.
Did i fuck up?

>>252813031

It goes

attack, cast, cancel cast with guard, attack, rinse, repeat

It requires pretty strict timing and even when you get it I think there's a hit limit (it's been a long time) but still

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Should I buy this?

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>>252812685

Getting mad because you're fedoracore and can't enjoy nice things? You feel badass hating an objectively good game? Stay autismal.

>>252812986
To be fair, the PS3 version did get a PS3 the BEST release that makes it fairly cheap to buy these days compared to what it used to be.

>>252813119
Word of advice for you to note: Symphonia was the fifth main game in the series, while Xillia is the thirteenth. Xillia's got more refined combat, but Symphonia is still quite fluid in what it manages. And that's a rather big thing about the series. Going back at least as far as Eternia, the series for the most part still manages to be fluid and fun to play, as long as you don't let some of the earlier, more basic entries being unrefined compared to later ones turn you off too much, and even Phantasia PS1 is still fluid as far as melee goes. Unfortunately for Destiny, the excellent PS2 remake and Director's Cut were never localized, so the only English version (the PS1 original) can be a bit clunky, which for some is a bit of a turn off.

>>252812346
I want to fuck Master Van's sister.

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>>252812685

Just what the fuck is so bad about Vesperia

It's plot and story are boring but

>Fantastic combat system; probably the most complex and fleshed out version of the TP system

>Great dub with great humor

>Decent music and beautiful visuals

>Memorable and incredibly amusing cast

>Tons of content, even in the Xbox version


I don't get this distaste for Vesperia

So, because I'm an idiot and can't into backlogs, I'm about 3/4 of the way through Abyss, Vesperia and Xillia.

Which should I devote my time to?

>>252813145
PS3 Vesperia's humanoid bosses tech out of combos like no tomorrow, unless you use some shenanigans to make them stop for your current combo. That's why you never see bosses getting juggled in combo exhibition videos.
It's been a while since I played the 360 version, so I'm not sure if they just didn't do it or did it less there.

>>252812346
>No Courage is the Magic that turns dreams into reality

>>252813953
>Great dub with great humor
That's my only gripe about Vesperia PS3. The English dub stomps the Japanese one.

>>252813974
I beat Van in Abyss and pretended I had completed the game.

I'm pretty happy with that choice.

>>252814131
I forget that DotnW sometimes exists.

>>252812346
PS3 VESPERIA WHEN

>>252814139

Yup

>>252814139
How can an opinion even be that shitty? The English dub sounds completely lifeless once you've got used to the Japanese voices.

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>>252813953

Why bother asking someone like that? They're the obnoxious minority who thinks having a dissenting opinion makes their tastes more refined. Never satisfied with just disagreeing, they spout off like manchildren wearing a soggy adult diaper.

>>252813974
I'd say to get Abyss out of the way first. The third act has some annoying pacing, but the final dungeon makes up for it if you ask me. Especially since it has four boss fights: a regular boss, a one vs one rival boss fight, another regular boss, and the final boss.

>>252814371
>ps3
Please stop.

Narikiri Dungeon X translation when?

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best girl

>>252814694
Absolute Zero's working on it, as well as some technical improvements to things like text and text boxes on the side.

>>252814619

>They're the obnoxious minority who thinks having a dissenting opinion makes their tastes more refined.

You are correct

I will take that dude's silence as vindication of this point

About to start Symphonia (HD ver) for the first time, should i pick Eng or Jap voices?

>>252814258
You really shouldn't be, the last dungeon or so of the game is easily the best part

>>252814889
Nah the box shoving puzzles were easily the best part.

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>>252813294
No, just save up some gald, buy better weapons and continue the story up there instead, since you won't be able to go to Palmacosta until you're done there.
Pro tip, git gud
>mfw fighting Magnius after the Tower of Mana

Are there any copies of Xillia 2 limited edition for sale or should I just get the Asia one off Play-Asia?

>>252814959
That applies to literally every Tales game though I love box shoving puzzles they make me feel whole

>>252815017
I have to get the US one off Play-Asia because my Xillia 1 is a US copy and I don't want it to look bad on my shelf.

Why are PS3 case spines such a trainwreck

>>252813356
Are you going to hotglue her?

>>252815286
Most likely.

>>252815017
No Limited first print edition like Xillia 1 had, if you're referring the one every original print copy was freely upgraded to. As for the Collectors edition, maybe. Last I'd heard there were still some available preorders for it since male figures don't sell things nearly as well as female ones do (compare to Xillia 1 with the Milla fig).

>>252814881
The English voices for Symphonia aren't too bad as far as the original dub for the Gamecube release, but I've heard the added dubwork for the new artes and such sounds phoned in. You might have more consistency with the Japanese dub. Give both a try.

>>252814258
>He didn't fight REPLICAAAAAAAAAA
>He didn't get the secret ending where you FONdle Tear's boobs and hairy, puffy vulva

>>252815167
You talking about European/PAL spines in general? I honestly never got what was with the decision to almost always use that same font, black text, white background for spines out there. I suppose it ca be chalked up to "increased legibility," but if you ask me a font one can associate with a game's title as well as the color of the spine itself can easily help you know what game something is from a distance.

>>252803950
Anise is awesome, she's fun as hell to play as. She's also the only other caster that has Resurrection/Raise Dead aside from Tear via the special Tokunaga accessory.
As for Luke, it was interesting to have him as an MC and see him change. Guy's still a lot more fun to main, though.

>>252814881
Eng for story, jap for battle

>>252807229
You can get them working with CFW, though. Those Madoka costumes in Xillia 2 will probably end up working as well.

>>252815893
It's an absolute nightmare for someone like myself with OCD.

Atelier Eschatology comes with the usual white background and black text but for some retarded reason the writing is in a completely different font from any other PS3 game. I don't get it.

>>252815893
Not just that. The PS3 has like 5 different spines depending on when the game came out.

>first few years had the Spiderman font logo as well as the greatest hits variation
>after the Slim came out we got a slightly different logo on the spine as well as that one's red greatest hits variation
>recent games have a weird blue design to match the Vita/PS4 cases except the case is still fucking clear like all other PS3 cases

It makes for an ugly and mismatched looking collection.
European spines make it all even worse.

>>252815501
I was referring to the collector's edition but I might just have to resort to the standard one. Bleh.

>>252815962
I just named them because they're the ones people complain about most often.
I actually really liked Luke and thought Anise had some nice scenes.

>>252816394
Unfortunately my PS3 is on the latest OFW, so I can't get CFW on it. Even worse I don't know anyone who could downgrade it so I don't really have much hope for CFW.

>>252816414
I personally like the way the US handles them. Most times anyways. It's annoying when games in a given series on the same console by the same publisher suddenly shift stuff up. Like how DQ IV and V DS had white spines with the same font and same line style (subtitle under the game number), only for VI DS to go generic black spine, white letter, everything in the same row.

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>>252816515
fucking Sony

>>252813294
You took the bridge north of Izoold to the Hima area. CONGRATS, you've found the hard path!

Instead of going Triet/Fire > Palmacosta/Water > Asgard/Wind > Luin/Hima Tower of Mana, you will now be going Triet/Fire > Luin/Hima Tower of Mana > Asgard/Wind > Palmacosta/Water. Have fun anon.

As a bonus though, you get Sheena early.

>>252816919
That's because one company published IV and V in the US and another published VI

>>252816919
>Symphonia HD has a pink spine
I am so glad to have bought the PAL copy

which is better graces f or vesperia in terms of overall experience?

>>252817084
I never knew that NA spines were so colorful and interesting, I like them better.

That's the strangest version difference.

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I hope Xillia 2 is just as good if not better than the first game

>>252817694
I believe it's is mostly more of the same.

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>>252817576
Vesperia by a mile. Graces F has a really great battle system but most everything else about it is very meh.

Why did /jrpg/ die?

>>252817640
It's been like this since the PS2 days. Not sure about PS1 but
>jewel cases

>>252817576
Vesperia, no contest

>>252817694
From what I understood it fixed some issues present in 1 but still has a buttload of its own issues

>>252817990

No new jrpgs

>>252803391

Have you ever played through an RPG in moon before? The tales games aren't too difficult to navigate if you don't understand moon.

I started with Symphonia on the GC, then imported the PS2 Symphonia, and from there I got into all the games in the series in moonland. The transition was smooth.

So I suppose what I recommend to you is this.

If you are just interested in Vesperia, and haven't played moon games before, go for the 360 version.

If you have played moon games before, or are familiar with tales series, and would like this to be your first introduction to moon, the PS3 version is far, far superior and worth the extra dosh and the time you will spend looking things up online. It will also help introduce you to moon games and you will be able to enjoy the rest of the series

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>>252817990
because some vita fanboy got mad and started spamming it with /b/ tier shit and spoilers for Xillia 2 and Type 0

>>252818239
>Vita fanboy angry at people who like JRPGs
What? Granted I haven't been to /jrpg/, so maybe I'm wrong and they actually hate JRPGs.

>>252818458
no, it's that JRPG insulted the Vita and that apparently caused one guy to go on a one man crusade.

Shit like releasing Hearts R over Vesperia PS3 didn't help

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>>252817935
God I fucking hate Cheria. Second worst Tales character.
Never thought I'd miss the relationship system from Symphonia.

>>252818610
To be fair I get why they'd be mad that Baba localizes Hearts R as a supposed "appeal to the fans" instead of Vesperia PS3 considering how many people still want the latter

>>252818773
If your first worst Tales character isn't Assbel you're doing something wrong

>>252818239
Bullshit, its the other way around. Hearts r getting localized lit their asses on fire and some meat heads started shit talking all things Vita and Tales for a while.

>>252806238
Use the script guide at apps.lushu.org/vesperia for an extra help.

>>252805329
It only took me forever but I finally understand "765"

That's pretty clever Namco.

>>252819056
>not liking Abyss more than Graces
Faggot.

>>252818971
>not Anise

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>>252818971
Nah man, Sodia, Shirley, and the chick that sold children into slavery in Xillia are way worse.

>>252819056

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>>252819440
this guy knows what's up

>>252819628
I'm worried about playing the 2D games. Do they even work without nostalgia?

I can't help but feel like they'd pale in comparison when I started with their modern alternatives.

>>252819843
I want bully her and laugh at her flat chest

>>252819930
They are better. 3D is pig disgusting.

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>>252819930
Eternia is still fine as an older 2d Tales. Phantasia for PS is good too, if a but clunky.

>>252812425
Modified stuff can load on OFWs that are below 3.56. This is the planned method for R3volution's operation.
They're still at it, and they expect people to stay on 3.55 OFW, hahahah

Of course all that DRM will be rendered absolutely useless after some hours

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>>252819930
If you really enjoyed Symphonia you'd get a kick out of Phantasia's story since it's in the same universe.
Otherwise, you don't know unless you try. I really enjoy the 2D games even though I started with 3D.

>>252812929
That doesn't mean you're out. I have a 160 GB Slim (Move Sports Champions 1 bundle) that works.

Check model number and datecode (two characters inside a square in the label). CECH20xx are all good, CECH25xx some are (the Move SC1 console is this one) - you need to confirm with the datecode, and CECH30xx consoles are out of the question.

Since the Lv0 keys are out, 4.xx CFWs make everything smooth and easy. No more EBOOT signing bullshit to take care of.

>>252812631
Xillia was handled by 8-4, and it was a pretty damn solid job if you ask me.
Perhaps he's mad about the bazongas.

>TFW you are the only one that liked Legendia.
I really liked the change from "Demon Fang!" to throwing and punching everything. I can accept that the story was kind of bad though.
It also had a fucking awesome OST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDXJ6e0klyw

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>>252821173
Im glad Shiina's back on for Zestiria.

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>>252821173
You're not alone.
I could never beat this cunt.

>>252820427
I just hope they dont give up since the translation itself is so close to being finished.

>>252821173

We pretty much accept that thought Legendia was the worst 3D Tales, it has the BEST soundtrack

Motoi Sakuraba is pretty great but this is next level shit

>>252803391
>Assuming you have both consoles, is it worth buying Vesperia 360 in english or Vesperia PS3 and not understanding Moon?

No, it's not. Get the 360 version of Verperia and enjoy it. What you get in the ps3 version are a few QoL things. Nothing changes the main story, actually to the point Flynn fucks up some things since he's never suppost to join you since he has his own agenda.

PS3 shits all over that just so the fangirls could have him playable. Patty is ok but again does nothing to the story or gameplay. Basically DLC characters. Great if you like them but not needed.

Everthing else is just minor stuff. Costumes, more arena, few extra sidequests, AI fixing. Nice to have but holding out for the moon version is just stupid.

>>252822173
Last spurt of progress was in March. Penultimate bar of verifications was filled, leaving only menus which moved from 94% to 96%.
Considering they're menus, it's all probably done. The only thing left is the magic bar, aka DRM.

I need to say this.

On Vesperia PS3, the intro movie was edited to add footage of Patty.
This made the video longer than the song, to fix this, they looped a part of the song with an edit more jarring and awful than the bad youtube "Song Extended" videos.
Why does no one mention this? It's really bad.
Patty isn't even a good character.

>>252822869
>This made the video longer than the song, to fix this, they looped a part of the song with an edit
All they did was replace the clip of Rita's hair blowing in the wind with Patty on the ship.

>>252822869
git gud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRNeXyU5QM4

>>252823046
Why did they edit the song then?

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>>252821173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qflopwLTn9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9CamCLOXsw

>>252822594
>The only thing left is the magic bar, aka DRM.

Goddammit...

>>252823335
Is dis a Tales game or Cowboy Bebop? I love it

>>252823202
They didn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGCtr4vrgwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrMR-HWZbQI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB4Teyw9b1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpW6ZvIazFk

>>252823202
They didn't.
/v/'s way of finding problems where there are none if they dislike something reminds me a lot of feminists.

>>252823202
It's exactly the same in both versions in both languages.
You'd know this if you actually played the PS3 version.

>>252823891
>>252823962
>>252824067
My mistake. I'd only played the PS3 version. The song is definitely edited compared to the original version of both songs. I just didn't realized the English intro was also edited. That's better, I think?

This is the exact moment the song repeats:
http://youtu.be/sYHaqvHrKS8?t=1m28s

Like I said it's in English too, but not in the original song. It just sounds wrong to me.

>>252824439
>The song is definitely edited compared to the original version
They do that with every Japanese song used for a video game intro.

>>252824662
I know they cut them short but I don't often here them cut them and flip them and loop them.

I guess I'm just annoyed that it's a bad edit.

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>>252810828
So who was her real father anyway? I don't remember.

Does anybody know why Destiny DC keeps crashing between rooms on PCSX2? I have the fix on and nothing is helping.
inb4 "google it ;)"

>>252826310
Mithos

How do I get good at Tales?

>>252829148
Practice and get a bro to play co-op with.

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Is Innocence any good? I might want to play it.

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>>252821173

>only one

nope.

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>>252832503

The gameplay and the dungeons made it unplayable for me. Rest is fine.

Luca was cute though.

>>252833051
what the hell?

>>252834842

Part of my Legendia collection

>>252834979
Why do you love that game so much? (not talking about the copies, just the game itself)

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>>252835573

The characters, especially their interactions with one another. The character quests were ultimately my favourite part of any game ever. The soundtrack alone is beautiful. I found the battle system simplistic, yet refreshing, like playing a brawler/beat 'em up.

>>252826587
I put it in software mode and it mostly fixed it. Just make sure to skip FMVs

OP here, the torrent above DOES work, so if you want ToACS, I'd say download it from there or download ACSf

>>252835972
Jesus man. What's your top 3 Tales games?

>>252835972
Is Tales of Legendia THAT good? p-p

>>252833051
Did you just buy all that in a day? Like "can I get 12 copies of Tales of Legendia please?".

>>252836328

1. Tales of Legendia
2. Tales of Eternia
3. Tales of Symphonia

>>252836484

Most people don't think so and that's fine.

>>252836492

Sadly, no. Just two of them at once. The rest were purchased throughout the years.

>>252836484
Not him but. I liked it better than Abyss and Symphonia

>>252836745
I like your taste. What are your other favorite jrpgs?

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I liked Legendia too. Usually I dislike the character archetypes of Moses or Norma but I found them sympathetic here. The character quests really made the game.

>>252837093

Grandia 2, Secret of Mana, Ys, Okage, Arc Rise Fantasia, Folklore are some that I can think of off the top of my head.

>>252835972
So are Aceman, Legendianon, and Bojangles the most recurring posters in these threads because I rarely see a thread without them.

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>>252837601

Tales is my favourite series so I usually try to jump in all of the "tales of" threads.

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>All this love for Legendia

I thought I was alone.

Though, the loads of backtracking and random battles does hurt the game.

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>>252839174

Holy Bottles work wonders if the random battles are an issue. I was never really bothered with the back tracking since I knew I was always guaranteed a solid song.

But yes, I am surprised by the actual love in this thread for Legendia. It normally doesn't turn out this well, but I'm glad to be witnessing it first hand.

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>>252814724

>>252826310
Frank is actually her real father. Remiel just put the cruxis crystal in her hand before she was born.

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>>252839591
I'll have to try it on PCSX2, hope it runs ok. I just finished Nocturne and it ran amazingly.

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>>252840852

I think I heard it has some problems on an emulator, but I hope for your sake I read wrong.

>tfw no Rebirth love
>not even the apparently prideful moon reading fags seem to have touched it

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>>252810828
But that's not Elize.

Anybody knows of any English patch for Tales of Symphonia PS2? I want to play it so bad on Emulator but no Japanese BS, also, is Tales of Innocence DS good?

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>>252839591
Speaking of Legendia, Chloe has one of the best fighting styles in the series. There's a lot of passion going on when using her artes.

>>252840852
Check this out
http://wiki.pcsx2.net/index.php/Tales_of_Legendia

If you have a good processor, you'll be fine.

>>252841539
There are a few anons who have played it.

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>>252837601
Don't forget the Tearfag>>252835972
Oh hey Legendianon, when are you showing off the rest of your collection?

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>>252841539
>implying

No reason to talk about it when only a handful played it.

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So this thread is getting to it's limits, what do?

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>>252842346
Post Tear.

>>252841539
I have the PSP port and beat it once with a walk-through. I would play it more, but I'm waiting for the completion of the translation patch.

>early Tales thread
>miss it
W-well ok. Hopefully there will be one later tonight. Been playing Graces all day. Pascal has lost her charm and I find her annoying every time she opens her mouth. Hubert and Malik are currently the only likable ones of the group.

>>252842346
>>252842605
>just barely above 300 posts

>>252839872
That's pretty gay
post more

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>>252842238

I was able to acquire a couple of more items from Japan so I am waiting for them to ship to me. I would like to say in the next few weeks, but I don't know a good time to post a thread. The last one I made ended up failing on me so do you have any advice?

>>252841852

I love Chloe's fighting style. She has some of the most unique artes in any Tales game. Even artes that are used in other Tales games she pulls them off entirely different; Tempest comes to mind.

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>>252842267
>Mao costume for Rita
>She gets Burnstrike
>mfw

>>252842765
Any thread with over 250 posts isnt worth catching up on.

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>>252842346
Let's rally up and convince the Vesperia fan translation guys to drop the DRM shit.

>>252840734
>Remiel
Stop it, he was a shit tier unconvincing faggot and he did not put it in her hand, Mithos did that himself by freezing time and putting it there

>>252841545
>Elize
I need to ask [s4s] for a le bazongas girl maymay edit so I can post it to spite you third worst loli lovers

>>252842495
Stop beating around the bush and post her giant plot, friend

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>actual R63 in the games
Kinda. Sorta.

>>252843234
>DRM shit

What?

>>252844849
see
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>>252812045
>>252812425

>>252845093
Shit VTT, just release the game.

I want to be ready for PS3 emulator, Nobody cares for a pirated game that's 6 years old!

>>252843452
I-I'm sure it was stated in game that Remiel did it th-though.

tales is fucking shit, you should all get good taste and play a good game like katawa shoujo which has a deep and meaningfull story

>What is the best game in the series? No Vesperia PS3, we all know that's 11/10 top tier
I've played Symphonia, Vesperia, Eternia, Abyss 3DS, and Phantasia GBA. I'd say either Symphonia or Eternia, though for the life of me I can't remember anyone's name from Eternia so I kinda have to go with Symphonia.
>Best costumes?
Sheena in a swimsuit, Raine in a swimsuit, Tear in a swimsuit.
>Best Cameo Fight?
Vesperia, because I had to use a magic lens on Barbatos.
>Assuming you have both consoles, is it worth buying Vesperia 360 in english or Vesperia PS3 and not understanding Moon?
I only have 360, but I'd think knowing what people are saying is more important than getting Flynn and some pirate grill in your party, though those new costumes...

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>you will never taste Natalia's cooking

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>>252842495
Alright
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