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Bloodborne - Everything we know so far.

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DEVELOPMENT
+Bloodborne is a game funded and owned by Sony, exact same situation as Demons Souls.
+Development started roght after Artorias DLC was completed.
+Made by the same exact team as Demons/Dark 1.
+Was PS4 game from the start.
+Project Beast trailer is one year old and was pre alpha, Bloodborne shown at E3 was alpha.

CHARACTER
+Full customization and creation, alongside gender.
+No more classic "classes", this time there will be archetypes of characters.

GAMEPLAY
+Game has NO shields, such equipment piece does not exist.
+Miyazaki wants every battle to be a struggle and challenge.
+Game has dashing and rolling as evade movement, much faster than Souls games.
+Huge emphasis on dual wielding.
+Guns are meant to stun, not to deal huge damage.
+Little to no magic.
+Gadgets and such replacing magic.
+Miyazaki wants interesting items to dominate healing consumables.
+Most of the weapons have two modes that you activate by pressing triangle, you can modify almost every weapon.
+Using torch and lantern will be crucial, pitch black areas.
+Souls are in and will be used for standard character improvement.
+Game will be longer than Demons Souls.
+Clocktower "bong" serves as enemy swapper, they change locations and respawn.

BEAST/BLOOD MECHANIC
+There is blood meter/gauge.
+Game has two types of blood.
+Tainted blood is everywhere and is used to boost and improve your character.
+Pure blood is only carried by living humans such as players as NPCs.
+Absoring too much tainted blood will turn you into beast.
+In beast mode whole game changes from visual to gameplay.
+To return to human form you have to get pure blood, and you can do that by hunting other players online.

ONLINE
+Basically Souls gameplay but instead of ghosts of players, you will see ACTUAL players running around in your world.
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GRAPHICS
+900p
+30FPS
+Chromatic Abberation
+Baked lighting
+Baked textures
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>shilling dis hard
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>>248354253
HOLY SHIT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST GAME EVER
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>>248354253
holy fuck that sounds worse than i thought it was going to be.

not just a rehash but also a downgrade
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>>248355226
>+900p
>+30FPS
God fucking damnit
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>>248355226
Can we report shitposting?
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looks like a shit movie
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>>248355226
>+30FPS
Not confirmed, they're targeting that.
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>>248355828
>downgrade
Pfffffffft
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>>248355974

So maybe lower, huh?
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And in the release version it will include 1/3 of those things. If you're lucky
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>>248355872
How is it shittoasting?
>Bloodborne - Everything we know so far.
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>+900p
>+30FPS
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>>248356078
That's possible, but let's have faith in From's coders.
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>>248354253
>+Game has NO shields, such equipment piece does not exist.
I saw shields in the E3 gameplay videos, it wasn't the player using it at the time, but there are shields in the game.
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>900p
>30 fps

FROM have pretty shitty programmers don't they?
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When did they exactly said it was exclusive?
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So I can attack the other players I see without needing to invade or be invaded then?
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>>248356285
>let's have faith in From's coders
So never played a From game, huh?
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>>248356138
>How is it shittoasting?
>>Bloodborne - Everything we know so far.

He's probably a troll who thinks any thread with info about a game is "viral shitposting".

I recommend reporting HIM for shitposting.
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>>248356265
>wouldst thou rwo them
What
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Why couldnt they just have made demon souls2 instead of this garbage?
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>>248354253
I thought they made Dark Souls to get out of PS exclusivity, and now they are going back into it with Bloodborne. I don't get it, I guess Sony gave them a bunch of cash on top of publishing the game. Don't really see why though, Souls games are never major sellers, good sellers but not major.
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>>248356385

Well they WERE practically non-existent before Demon's Souls and 3D Dot Game Heroes spread their popularity out.
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>>248354253
>doesn't quote a single source

Prove you aren't lying (you can't)
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>>248356531
Because you're retarded.
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Im getting bored of souls games the formula is done, from is just exploting the mechanics just like Activision with call of duty
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>>248356078
You seen the Souls games on the PS3, right? Same fucking team.
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>>248355226
>baked textures

I mean you aren't wrong but umm, no-one really uses that term outside of actually baking your normals and shit.
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>>248356436

When JAPANStudio popped up in the trailer.
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>>248356436
Sony said it at the conference.
It's basically confirmed to be exclusive unless Sony goes bankrupt and losses the IP
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>+Bloodborne is a game funded and owned by Sony, exact same situation as Demons Souls.
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>no gameplay

No wonder it's on ps4 only
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>>248355841
At least it isn't a game that relies on the FPS too much.
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>>248356570
I don't get why would they need to do this if they wanted to make a DES successor and have sosny on their side.
Why make a spiritual successor when you can make a normal one?
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>>248356761
does FORM have any studios other than a japanese one?
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>>248356485
It's not like the game was literally announced through a viral marketing campaign on 4chan or anything.
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>>248356570

Demon's Souls became a greatest hits.
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>>248354253
sources?

>no shields
mite b cool
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>>248356436

This already came clear at E3, how can people be this fucking dense?
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>>248356826
What of it?
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>>248356875
No.
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What exaxtly would an archetype be compared to a character class?
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>>248356436
It's exclusive, don't worry about it though, they will probably slap out a Darkborne multiplat a year and a half after Bloodborne releases, it's just too much money for them, unless they are actually fans of Sony systems.
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>>248355226
>>248355841
It's not 900p. It's 1080p, they had an interview in Famitsu where they clearly stated that.
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>>248356808
are you sure it was sony?
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Where's the source?
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i'm tempted to buy a ps4 for this but it's the only game that interest me in that shitty console, even the xbone have more interesting titles

i hope they either release more interesting games for the ps4 or the game doesn't reach 60 fps
because everything under 60 fps is not worth to play nor to buy, 60 fps should be the standard and nintendo proves once again to be the best at maintaining that, if only the wii u didn't had such shitty hardware
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>>248355226
>900p
confimed 1080p
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>That blood mechanic

So invading/ killing other players is basically a necessity? What's up with all these terrible design decisions, jesus.
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+Used as epic trolling bait on /v/
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>>248357028
>MADE BY SCEJ AND FROM
>HURR IT NOT EXCLUSIVE
Kill yourself.
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>>248356958
>What exaxtly would an archetype be compared to a character class?

Judging by tabletop RPGs, it means big an strong/fast and agile/smart and weak
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There's no way they'll keep it exclusive forever. There's just not enough money on the PS4 alone. You'll be able to play this game on PC within a couple of years. Screencap this post.
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>>248357029
Famitsu, dumbass.
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>>248357227
You first sonygger
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>>248357163
Was it a necessity in Dark Souls? You'll probably get items similar to humanity.
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So basically this is devil may souls? Would be cool if it wasn't playstation exclusive.
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>>248357163
To make you pay for online
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>>248354253
>+Development started roght after Artorias DLC was completed.

Why the fuck did they show an alpha build that ran like shit then? I'm starting to think that this famous "team A" is just a buzzword for desperate ps4 only people that grasp every little straw of hope of not getting another shit game after blunder souls 2.

We should call this one Blunderbourne, you know, just in case it's actually a blunder and the only interesting game for ps4 turns out to be complete shit.
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>>248357005
>>248357098

They meant it's upscaled from 900p tp 1080p. The Japanese don't care about the difference.
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>>248356875
Japan Studio is a Sony 1st party studio
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>>248357454
>They meant it's upscaled from 900p tp 1080p.

Link.
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>/v/ has been nothing but Bloodborne consolewar threads and Splatoon porn threads.

I wonder when it will end. Also:
>+Using torch and lantern will be crucial, pitch black areas.

Didn't they say the same shit about DaS2? I beat that game literally without once lighting a torch.
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>>248354253
>No more classic "classes", this time there will be archetypes of characters.
How is that any different from every other Souls game?
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>>248357346
yeah that's why DeS is on pc OH WAIT!
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>>248356906
because it sold good, Major is like 8 mil+, Demon Souls was like 1.8 mill total. if it cost more than 60 mil to make and advertise, they are wasting their money. I doubt Demon souls cost even more than 20.

Not that I care, I just want to play the game, pref on PC though.

Never Ever
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>>248357368
>projecting this hard
I stated facts, fanboy, you're a fucking idiot, not my problem.
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>>248357467
Your mum is a my dick 1st party vagina.
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>>248357346

Sony might have bought title rights like they did with Demon's Souls.
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>>248356570
While souls games are not major sellers, they get the "core audience" excited. That excitement moves console units which is what Sony wants most with this exclusivity deal.
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>Using torch and lantern will be crucial, pitch black areas.

Gee, where have I heard this before?
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>>248357715
It's the same rights.
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>>248357715
>just
Are you retarded? SCEJ Codeveloped it.
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>tfw hyped for bloodborne but don't even own a ps4
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>>248357840
Same here, gonna buy one on black friday.
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>>248357787
>being a blatant nintendrone

>>248357875
>NVER
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>>248357840
Wait for the PC version with me.
>>248357875
Just like GTA V and neptunia right?
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>>248357875
>fucked up the spaces
Loving Every Laugh
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>>248357971
>PC version
Pffffffffft
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>>248357592
They said a lot of things about DaS II.

>Bloodborne threads will never be as friendly and comfy as DeS threads were
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>>248356520
rub, you illiterate fuck.
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Demon's Souls is still online to this day. I'm impressed considering it was only expected to stay online for 6 months.
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>>248357979
Doing my part.
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>made by the exact same team some of whom also happened to be working on dark souls 2, but it's okay because you can believe me!
>was a ps4 game from the start- because the trailer from tgs surely looks like a ps4 title and not a crossgen game which has been revved up a gen last minute to make people buy the ps4!
>instead of ghosts you will see ACTUAL players, so basically opaque ghosts.

The game is also confirmed not to have a standard open world structure, you are probably going to respond by stating "dark souls 2" but read it within the context of the question, it means open world in general.

Sure it might have demons souls level design with varying obstacles, but not a large interconnected city.
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>>248357346
Yeah but that's Sonys problem, Sony are footing the bill here and making the money, I doubt they will port to PC

>>248357770
But only Souls Fans you are talking just a fraction of PS fans, and a lot of them would be die hard, or cross over with many other PS exclusives, it will move units but probably about 200,000 to 1 mil. Like GTAV PC fans will hold out for Darkborne.and then pirate it, like I'm doing with GTAV
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>>248356285
You do know it's not about coding right? to have higher FPS you need higher Performance, that is only achieved by lowering the graphical settings or upgrading the hardware. The trailer shown at E3 already showed some scenes where the FPS was lower than 30.
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>>248354253
-the game wont look like that at all
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>>248358073
>lying to make a point
Oh so scary. Nice try Nintendtoddler.
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>>248358173
What kind of dope are you on? It's been offline for years.
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>>248358172
Oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh.
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>>248357971
>wait for the pc version with me

No thanks, I'm not as delusional as you buddy.
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The butthurt over this game is truly hilarious.

First it didn't exist. Now its an exclusive and its the typical fox/grapes rhetoric we all know and love.

Stay bitter. Its not like you wanted those grapes anyway.
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>>248358141
Why should they be trusted now?


mah nigga. Favorite Kurosawa film?
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>>248357163
You can kill the NPCs.
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>>248358283
>being arrogant about being retarded
Nope.
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looks like everything dark souls 2 was promised to be but isnt. you arent getting my money a third time, FROM.
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>show private pre-alpha of a pre-alpha game running at slideshow fps in single player
>multiplayer will be a clusterfuck
>gorillion E3 awards for basically a tech demo
BUTTERY MOVIE POPCORN SLICK 30FPS target
CINEMATIC dips TO 24fps
Jaw-dropping slideshow 10fps
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>>248358283
I played DeS 2 days ago and I got summoned for the flame lurker twice, got invaded once, and was the Old Monk boss 3 times in a row while trying to get summoned for the maneaters. You dumb.
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>900p
>-20fps

Fucking christ.
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>>248357971
I am a huge PCfag but you have to have brain tumors to think this will come to anything not Playstation.
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All of you faggots went crazy after Dark Souls and DSII went PC. You all hated on it and the. It came out on PC and suddenly you loved the series. Now an exclusive successor is revealed and you all hate on the series again.

You're all such tryhards these days.
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>>248354253
its not much faster than souls gameplay. dont try to overhype things, you'll only disappoint your fanbase, marketer.
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>no shield

I'm fucked. I relied on my shields throughout all 3 games.
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>>248358408
Who are you quoting?
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>this thread
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>>248358456
I don't get the awards too, From Souls is cool but it's not that cool. Witcher 3 has more promise.
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>>248358373
>a game in development doesn't run at 120fps
>nintendrones must shitpost it into the grond
You're hilarious. Stay bitter about these delicious grapes, they go good witb your tears.
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>Other players will physically be in your world
Great, can't wait for some minmaxed bullshit build to emerge and have 100000 of the same guy running around in my game.
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How the fuck is this going to run sub-60 when the PS4 is more powerful than the PS3 but the gameplay trailer leak visually doesn't look all that great?
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>playing GrimDark souls
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>Trying to have a Bloodborne thread on /v/

You're going to have to wait until all the people without a PS4 manage to overcome their massive level of asspain long enough to have a constructive thread without shitposting.
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>>248354253
>+Tainted blood is everywhere and is used to boost and improve your character.
>+Pure blood is only carried by living humans such as players as NPCs.
>+Absoring too much tainted blood will turn you into beast.
>+In beast mode whole game changes from visual to gameplay.
>+To return to human form you have to get pure blood, and you can do that by hunting other players online.

Don't own a PS4 and probably never will, but that sounds like a really interesting game mechanic.
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>>248354253
Thanks for listing everything there is to know OP.
I'm so fucking hyped for Bloodborne Gaiden.
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>>248358414
I WATCH IT ON YOUTUBE ;^)
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>>248357163
The game is meant to be played that way. Stop thinking developers need to cater to everyone, they designed the game with a specific right way to playing it and there is a wrong way to play it, which is offline. They tried to make that point clear with Dark Souls 2 by adding the sentinels covenant so players that thought invading random people was a ''bad guy move'' could invade, and when you play offline there are triggered NPC invasions so you can still have the same experience as anyone else.
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>Collecting too much tainted blood turns you into a beast
>In order to become normal again you need pure blood
>Pure blood is gained by killing other players through online
>PS4 online isn't free

This game better have an alternative OR have free online.

If you need to pay to literally collect pure blood, imma have a good laff
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>non open world
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>>248358608
>nintendrones
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>>248358507
Im a huge consolefag and i think PC are 10x better than Consoles.
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>>248358358
I trust Miyazaki to deliver the goods
I think the DaSII beta had dynamic lighting, so it was a failure to keep a promise instead of an outright lie.

A tie between Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress. Yours?
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I wish FPS-faggots were autobanned, they contribute about as much to any given discussion as people who say 'edgy' or 'autistic'
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Bloodborne is going to be a huge success and there is nothing you idiots can do about it
Miyazaki will be permanently in the hands of Sony from now on, and PC fags will be stuck with B team souls.
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>>248358696
>Vita and PS3 were the anime consoles
>hurr durr
Pffffft
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>>248358764
Thank god
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>>248358764
>Modern Genius.jpg
That Levine?
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>>248358696

>Anime
>Offensive to Sony fans

are you really this retarded? Anyone who owns a PS4 loves weeb games or they wouldn't have bought one :^)
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>>248354253
>trusting anon with no source
>trusting FROM after the let down of das2

Im not getting back on your wild ride, sorry
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>>248358764

>open world is a must!

protip: it's not.
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When will 2/5 of /v/ understabd that the reason the other 3/5 of /v/ hate this game solely because its PS4 exclusive. If this was also on Xbone/PC, then this would universally praised as GOTYAY
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>>248358740
I'm sure there will be a blood vial item or something. Just like how there was stone of ephemeral eyes in DeS, humanity in DaS, and effigies in DaSII.
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>>248358848
It's Kevin "The Genius" James.
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>people being surprised that it will be 30fps

It's fucking From Soft. It sucks, but if you were honestly expecting otherwise then you are retarded.
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>>248358869
>famitsu isn't a source
LOL
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I'm fine with 30fps, it works out better for some kinds of games.
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>>248354253
I have a ps4 Im not trying to sound diffucult BUT make threads when the game actually has a beta I can play. Or a demo on youtube.

I have a question. Where the fuck did Shadow of the Beast, Rime, Rapture fucking go?
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>>248358918
>this would universally praised as GOTYAY
For what?
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>>248358918
>When will 2/5 of /v/ understabd that the reason the other 3/5 of /v/ praise this game solely because its PS4 exclusive. If this was also on Xbone/PC, then this would universally praised as GARBAGE
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>>248358740
The game,like all other Souls games, is meant to be played online. Get that straight in your head, Interaction with other players is essential to have the full Souls experience.
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>Pcfags saying the game will run at 900p
>Its been confirmed that its 1080p
>Pc version on the other hand has been confirmed to be running at 0fps 0p
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>+Basically Souls gameplay but instead of ghosts of players, you will see ACTUAL players running around in your world.

So what does this mean...you'll be in constant pvp?
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>>248359009
>expecting bloodborne to even reach 30fps
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>>248355974
>>248356078
To be optimistic, the game is coming out in around a year, I think. They might figure out how to work with the PS4 enough to get it up to 60, who knows?
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>>248359020
It works worse for all games.
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>30 fps
That can't be true right?
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>>248359104
>From figuring out programming
That's beyond optimistic.
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>>248359031
>anything that isn't happy anime is grimdark
Okay there.
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>>248358696
Good joke buddy.
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>>248358740

I'm sure you never really need to have pure blood. Also I expect some uncommon/rare items that purify blood and NPC enemies with pure blood.

I can't fathom how lonely Souls must feel offline, though.
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>>248357454
Source?
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>>248359031
but you are actually mad, jelly, and
>NEVER EVER
stay mad nignog
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>>248359031

How big of a faggot are you
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>>248358646
There really is not that that much to talk about aside from that private trailer they showed journalists and quotes from Miyazaki.
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>>248359104
Spring next year, don't expect 60, considering from don't even expect 30.
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>>248354253
>+Game has NO shields, such equipment piece does not exist.
>+Miyazaki wants every battle to be a struggle and challenge.
>+Game has dashing and rolling as evade movement, much faster than Souls games.
>+Huge emphasis on dual wielding.
>+Guns are meant to stun, not to deal huge damage.
>+Little to no magic.
>+Gadgets and such replacing magic.
>+Miyazaki wants interesting items to dominate healing consumables.
im mad
>BEAST/BLOOD MECHANIC
so there's no reason to enter beast mode?
>, you will see ACTUAL players running around in your world.
that would be more of a mess actually dependng on how they implement it.
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>>248359146
We'll wait and see.
From are shit programers, so it's a definite possibility.
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>>248359159
>projecting this hard
>robot chicken is anime
Hahahahahabababa
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>>248356078
Good.
The ultimate cinematic experience is 24 fps. I hope they hit around that.
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>>248359060
>The game,like all other Souls games, is meant to be played online.

Wrong, it can be played online, but it's not mandatory. It was NEVER mandatory.

> Interaction with other players is essential to have the full Souls experience.

If the interactions weren't laggy, annoying, cheap and not fair i would agree 100%.

But considering the game is filled with this annoying shit, i don't need it.
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>>248358824
If their game is designed in a way that you can only play it if they pull their eye-balls out, then let them create their own game. Nothing is for everyone, that mentality is why we have so many dark and gritty/edgy characters and stories.
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>>248359020
It never works out better.

However it depends. If they make the controls feel floaty then it should be fine.

If they make it very stiff then its shit.

Compare Killzone 2 vs Killzone 3. Both are 30fps. But the later actually feels playable.
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>>248358358
Because it's the team that created DeS and DaS, not DS2.
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>>248359159

You watch E3 for weeb games? Are you THAT new?

TGS is the only place to watch weeb games. Also, Splatoon looks fun but hardly counts as a weeb game. It has little girls to cater to actual little girls, not pedophiles.

I already own a Wii U though, and I'm buying a PS4 this week specifically for bloodborne. Feels good not being poor.
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>>248359031
There's more pctards in this thread than sonyggers so I guess its a
>U-U MAD
>U-U JELLY
>N-NEVER EVER
for them because thats exactly the truth.
You are mad because you are not getting it, jelly because this is porbably going to kick ass, and you will never ever get it because its co developed by sony exclusively for ps4. How is saying the truth shit posting? Time to get a ps4, and shut the fuck up
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>>248359146
No, it will be 20 infact.
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>>248359248
beast "mode" is a penalty not a powerup

Like losing HP in DaS2 and DeS.
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>>248359297

No really, I don't even own a PS4 I'm just curious what you're trying to accomplish by sounding like a humongous idiot.
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>>248359323
Why not even lower?
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>sunset overdrive threads with 900p 30fps

>meanwhile bloodborn has 900p and doesn't even reach 20fps
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>>248356436
Trailer on the playstation youtube channel says "PS4 exclusive" in the description
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>>248359297
>still shitposting
Shouldn't you be fapping to sqhidboys or something?
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>>248359060
This has nothing to do with what he said
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>>248359404
U mad?
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NEVER EVER
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>>248359371
this
DaSII's team made so many decisions that Miyazaki would never have approved. So many of the boss/enemy/world designs went against his aesthetic too.
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>>248359431
Sunset Overdrive is 30fps too? What the fuck
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>>248358821
I tend not to follow Devs, either as studios or individuals, so all of this seems like fluffy PR talk to me. I like to judge the game on its own when its out, unaffected by hype and marketing. I don't always succeed, that's for sure tho.

A tie between Yojimbo and Rashomon, 7 Samurai and Ikiru are pretty close. Haven't seen the Hidden Fortress, is it that good?
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>>248355226
Meanwhile on sunset overdrive

>The game will run at 900p and 30fps on the Xbox One, Ryan Schneider confirmed to GamingBolt. We also asked them whether there is a chance of a resolution upgrade later on, but it seems it’s not on their radar for the time being.

>“If you play the game and see the experience, we are pretty comfortable where we are in terms of frame rate and resolution wise. We rather just focus on optimizing what you can see on the screen and that we think will create a better experience overall,” Ryan explained.

How come nobody's making a big deal out of this? Also bloodborne is confirmed to run at 1080p
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>>248359434
>sonygger
>own a wiiu
>don't own a ps4
Makes perfect sense!
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>>248358821
>>248359371
Miyazaki is incredibly overrated. 99% of the people who sing his praises on this board didn't know a thing about him until DeS. He is not immune to mistakes
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Why are there so many PCfriends and Nintendofriends in this thread? Don't you guys have any games to talk about on your own systems? Why are your grapes so sour that you spend every day trying to shit post in Bloodborne threads? It's not our fault that nobody makes any good games for PC/Wii U.
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>>248359334
>If the interactions weren't laggy, annoying, cheap and not fair i would agree 100%.

Im sure the power of the ps4 and online it wont be bad at all. I think players would be able to join your game flawlessly without it slowing down or being laggy.
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>>248359159
Sony already said they're gonna keep at it with the Japanese games and Vita is weebgame galore. Nintendo has never been weeb and even their most weeb games like Fire Emblem still feel pretty normalfag in comparison to the oktaku stuff on vita.
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>>248359431
Sunset overdrive is 30fps too? What the fuck...
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>>248359526
>DaSII's team made so many decisions that Miyazaki would never have approved
Isn't he the director at from?
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>>248359536
Yep it's a shame really.

>>248359591
Bloodborne is 900p
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>>248359412
yeah but is pretty much an obliged PVP tu improve your sats to not reach that state.
i dont like the idea to make pvp a chore.
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>>248356706
It seems like they're trying a new version of the formula, with the new setting, the lack of magic, and the de-emphasis on passive fighting.
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>>248359104

Highly possible but From Software

Then again no more namco
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>>248359146
Nope, don't believe the shit you see on /v/.

The truth is, much like DaS it will be 30 fps at the absolute max, but will often drop when there's anything going on.
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>>248355226
>Baked textures
How textures not be, well, baked?
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>>248359172
Not him, but most of those games are pretty meidocre/bad.
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>>248359606

You sound insane. I really hope you're just shitposting and don't actually believe the stuff you type out.
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>>248359431
Sunset Overdrive doesn't seem to ask as much from the hardware as Demon's though. I'm not saying that SO is ugly, but that the cartoony arstistic style is easier to draw into polygons and textures than Bloodborne's more realistic look.
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>>248359591
Actually we had a thread about SSO running at 900p 30fps and it was laughed at, so nice delusions.
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>>248359713
As of like 2 weeks ago.
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>>248359591
>>248359743
Why do I even get hype anymore, it always ends in disappointment.
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>>248354253
this game is called Bloodporn

did you even watch E3
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>>248359743
Source on bloodborne at 900p?
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>>248359713
That just happened recently. So unless that gives him the power to go back in time, than no its too late to do anything about it.

Besides hes busy with bloodborne.
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>>248359661
PCfriends still busy with DaS2.
Nintendofags have nothing to play, both their platforms are in pure "plz understand" mode.
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>>248359104
>>248359781
Don't be fucking stupid.
Games don't just triple their framerate in 9 months. You'll be lucky to get a stable 30.
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>>248359661
>says someone who owns the Nogames4
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>>248359596
son you are forgetting how many Armored Core fans are on /v/.
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>>248359673
>code of princess
>Senran Kagura
hmmm
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>>248354253
>full character customization
>NO SHIELDS
shit game
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>>248359591
but we did and everyone was shitting on it for it with little denial and
>NEVER EVER
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>>248359967
Are you an idiot?
Did you not watch E3?

The PS4 got what, 2 exclusives announced?
The Wii U had like 10.
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>>248357421
when did it drop to 15? a couple of hours ago all the shitposters were whining about 20

>mfw people are even considering something like framerate when they haven't seen review gameplay or played it for themselves just because some random cunt with no credibility reported it dropped to 20 when he was playing a demo at e3
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>>248359743
Wrong

>The expected spec for the game is 30fps at 1080p
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NINTENDTODDLER SHIT POSTS GETTING DELETED

NINTENDTODDLERS

BLOWN

THE

FUCK

OUT
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>>248359606
>>248359434
>>248359297
>>248359159
>>248359031
>>248358824
>>248358696
>>248358559
>>248358373
>>248358073
>>248357952

Thanks for getting rid of this guy, mods/janitors.
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>>248359371
I hear this all the time, but I thought Miyazaki was the supervisor during DS2's development; am I wrong? Also, I think there was an image that showed that about 60% of the team was the same.
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>>248360026
Armored core fans rememebr AC4 tough, and that's a reason to not overhype miyazaki.
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All this shitposting reminds me of the other one where some kid was so butt blasted he started posting child porn out of pure spite.
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>>248359851
Based blindbro shilling it up on /v/ for his shit temporal resolution

>b-but they'll fix it!!
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>>248360002

and a Wii U, and two PCs that are faster than yours.

I just don't understand all the hate directed as this game just because you guys can't play it. There are games you can't play every generation if you don't want to buy a console. Get over it.
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>>248359596
I'm not saying he's immune to mistakes, I mean it will probably be more like DaS and DeS.

>>248359743
>Bloodborne is 900p
Source on that? You have a link?

>>248359785

My guess is it will be like DaS and Blightown. The game never really dropped from 30 fps for me until I got to Blightown and only there. Hopefully they will learn from that mistake.
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i don't like the whole blood/online bullshit, sounds like they're just forcing you to PVP eventually with no avoiding it. also don't like the "clocl bong" mechanic and the lantern/torch stuff, but it might be okay. overall i hated dark souls and thought it was one of the worst games i'd ever played but i'm kinda excited for this with the changes they're making. the only thing the souls games had going for them was a good art direction and the fact that all the weapons were pretty unique and had different attacks, but the combat in this one actually looks fun.
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>>248360164
No, it's just shitposts.
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>>248359941
Their spec goals are 1080p 30fps

http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/22473/article/bloodborne-details-spring-2015-window-1080p-30fps/

pic unrelated, i just like it
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>>248360135
And zero multiplays.
No PC leeching please.

You see, my boy, a well rounded library is what sells consoles.
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>>248359852
>doesn't seem to ask as much from the hardware as Demon's though
uh
>but that the cartoony arstistic style is easier to draw into polygons and textures
oh you are tech iliterate, should have said sooner.
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Can someone explain the difference between classes and archetypes? Especially given the Souls series' freeform leveling system, those seem really similar.
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>>248360164
see
>>248359180
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>>248360039
>naming two games and one of them is getting a few games+spin off on vita

Try harder, your system will forever be normalfag territory.
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>>248360135
Learn2count
>>
My interest was pretty much destroyed when they confirmed it wasn't an open world. Demons souls benefited because it had different environments, I'm betting this will just feel like levels.
>>
Based shill jannys going out of their way to hide how hard Sony is fucking their goystomers in the ass ;)
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Why can't we have a bloodborne thread with no shitposting?
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>>248359874
Was SSO really laughed at for saying it runs at 900p and 30fps? Why did people claim it didn't?
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>>248360164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GCx2wW61aQ
The games frame rate chugged at multiple points. It was not in a condition to be shown at E3.
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>>248360393
multiplats*
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>>248355226
>>248355841
>>248356239
>>248356385
>>248357454
>>248359743

Falling for bait. I will never understand why some of you guys love to spread misinformation on games.

But bloodborne runs at 1080P 30FPS.
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>>248360327

If you hated Dark Souls you will hate this game. It's literally identical in gameplay and art style.
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You know what? I didn't care (or really even know) about Bloodborne until E3, and even after seeing it felt a little meh.
But yesterday, I inexplicably got the craving for a certain old game...
And suddenly my hype boner for BB is through the roof.
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>no more faggot turtles
>no more casual shitters running around with shields and lock on telling others to git gud because they made the mistake of thinking theyre good when theyre playing the easiest possible way to play the game

holy fuck this is amazing
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>>248360254
>some kid was so butt blasted he started posting child porn out of pure spite.
Why can't we be so lucky now ;_;
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>>248360246
ssshhhh
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>>248360391
>expecting from software to deliver with their track record
>>
Wasn't Demon's Souls 30FPS, other than that one swamp world?
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>>248360549
> bloodborne runs at 1080P 30FPS.
>runs
>when the demo clearly showed it doesnt
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>>248356938
He probably just can't play it but at least he's not acting like he thinks it's going to be shit out of jealousy like most others are.
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>>248360512
Nobody claimed it didn't but underage masses kept spilling shit how framerate isn't important and how NEVER EVER.
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>>248360658
Yes.
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>>248360474

Because it's exclusive
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>>248359579
It's sure to be a high octane visceral and cinematic experience that will revolutionise video games. Pre-order today!

Yes, although I like it more than most people. I recommend it.
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>>248354253
So repainted DS with guns and still no story.
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>>248360431
>30 FPS
>drops to 15 for 3 seconds while the new area loads
>back to 30 when in combat

WOW, it's fucking nothing.
They'll easily have it at a rock solid 30 by the end of summer, not 2015.

Thanks for confirming all this "muh FPS" bullshit was just an exageration.
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>>248360439
Uncharted 4
Bloodborne.
LBP3 is on PS3, so it's not an exclusive.

Also Let it Die, but it looks like Sony made Suda completely butcher the vision he had going for him with Lily, just to be able to cater to a western audience.


>>248360393
And? I can play multiplats on my PC, pic related.
The PS4 had nothing going for it this E3 except this game. Nintendo blew Sony the fuck out pretty easily, which is unfortunate because I wanted to have more PS4 games actually announced this E3 to give my dusty console something to play.
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>>248360564
THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD WHEN I SAW THE TRAILER!!!! NIGHTMARE CREATURES 4 BITCHES!!!!
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>>248360776
High and Low was better.
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>>248360432
>one of them is getting a few games+spin off on vita

you mean like Senran Kagura 2: Shinku for the 3DS?

>>248360432
>your system will forever be normalfag territory.

good i won't be confused for one of those pedophiles that used the 3DS' swapnotes to take pics of my dick to show to children
>>
PvP is going to be great.

>guns stun people
>use gun
>backstab/combo/riposte
>win

It'll basically be like COD, in that who ever sees who first wins.
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>>248360551
if you actually read my post/weren't retarded you would see that i praised the art style and said i was pleased with the combat improvements for the new game. the combat actually looks fast and fun this time around instead of slow, clunky, and shield heavy.
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>>248359579
it's ok, not as good as 7 samurai or yojimob
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>>248360701
>jealousy

It's somehow a feat to buy a PS4 or something?
You're acting as if it's impossible to just go to a store and buy it.
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>>248360892
Oops, forgot my speccy pic

i5 is clocked to 4.5 ghz
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>>248360843
But shieldsfags in DaS2 are fucking great, they're free wins via guard break.
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>>248360872
>>back to 30 when in combat
But that's wrong.
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>>248360997
Are backstabs even confirmed?
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>>248360892
>made Suda make it Western
>this is what retards actually believe
He's a bigger westabok than Kojima.
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>>248360564
What's that? Nightmare Creatures 2?
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>>248360692
The game has not been released yet. The project wasn't created to fit exactly with the E3 presentation and they still have a lot of work to do before it's released.
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>>248361074

you're forgetting most people on here are underage or poor as fuck

>>248361128

id be surprised if they are removed, being as though theyve been a staple of the combat for the entire series
>>
When Miyazaki's done he needs to go back and clean up DaS 2
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>>248360843
>gadgets take the place of magic
>thinking it won't be the same shit
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>>248360474
>thread without shit posting
>/v/
pick one
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>>248360692
You guys are like man children. I cant tell if you're joking or just this stupid.

The game wont come out till sometime next year. Why the hell would you think the game would be running smoothly now. Thats also why it was press only, its not meant for public eyes, cause of people like you and others.

Frame rate optimization happens towards the end of the development cycle.
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>>248354253
This game sounds (doesn't look yet) very good,
but I'm still a bit disappointed in PS4.
I don't have anything to buy for it in what looks like over a year (this, Phantom Pain, maybe KH 3 and FF XIV)
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>>248360962
Haven't seen it.
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>Clocktower "bong" serves as enemy swapper, they change locations and respawn.

Bong confirmed.
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>>248361016

Okay, but I'm just letting you know I've seen the demo and the gameplay is identical to Dark Souls. It's not faster, the animations are different and all the footage we saw was dual wield based - but it looked identical to playing a dual wield build in any of the other souls games.
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>>248360997
actually that's what miyazaki wants
instead of a slower and defensive aproach
he rewards the one that strike first against enemies.
im not sure this is the right way to take the concept of souls, while i find a more offensive play being rewarded more taking out defensive options is not the real way to do it.
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>>248356718
>You seen the Souls games on the PS3, right? Same fucking team.
So 10 fps in blighttownm?
>>
So is this game essentially the sequel to Demon Souls with a different name?
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>>248357346
Or you know, the game was codeveloped with Japan Studio, one of Sony's long running 1st party developers, meaning the game is never going to make if off of sony systems just like Demons Souls.

Fucking retards.
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>>248361346
You really should.
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>+Game has NO shields, such equipment piece does not exist.


Prepare to enter a new era of 'git gud'.

No more babby mode shields that block 100% physical damage.
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>>248361130
Little big planet:

>Cross gen
>outsourced
>cash in

It's a joke

Let it die is fucking free to play garbage.
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>>248360776
Holy shit Mifune is in it and i haven't seen it? I fucking love that guy, he made Yojimbo and Sanjuro and arguably Rashomon. Thanks m8 downloading it now, have some Zatoichi, he is pretty cool too.
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>>248361128
Of course not.
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>>248361090

>Thinks they're master race
>1920x1080

Absolutely disgusting. Why on Earth would you buy a 780 to power a single tiny monitor.

Why are PCfags on /v/ so retarded?
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REMINDER TO REPORT, HIDE AND IGNORE ALL SHITPOSTING
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>>248354253
>+Clocktower "bong" serves as enemy swapper, they change locations and respawn.

That's pretty nifty.
>>
>>248360990
I was thinking about shinovi versus and the cooking game. but if you're happy with getting a few weeb games then that's good for you, just don't pretend nintendo is a weeb machine when it never was nor does it try to be. :^)
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>>248361107
Yeah, I guess it might have been 25.
Still fantastic for an alpha/early beta

It's clear that Miyazaki has learned from DaS1 and Blightown, he even said he considered DaS1 a failiure on consoles because of Blightown's FPS.

Fucking BASED as fuck.
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>>248361175
Yea, just look at all that Suda games with a generic brown n bloom western art style.
Oh wait, there are none. Oh wait, he also inserts a shit ton of Japanese culture into his games.

Itageki is the westaboo you're thinking of m8, keep up with Japanese developers.

>>248361130
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LittleBigPlanet_3

It is, AND it's outsourced m8. It will be the worst game in the series.
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>>248361487
Download High and Low as well, he is fantastic in it.
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>>248361420

there is more emphasis on movement and evasion, so what is likely to happen is everyone who cant react will get shit on immensely because they can't just turtle and poke in full havels, and everyone that is actually good will just roll around missing eachother for 30 minutes until one wins

good ol DeS pvp revival
>>
>>248361308
>Frame rate optimization happens towards the end of the development cycle.
optimization happens togheter with the development it's part of it. Bug fixes come at the end, stop saying optimization comes at last that's like 4 times the work if you leave it at last
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>>248354253
Wow, cool stuff! I will buy this g-

>>248355226
>GRAPHICS
>+900p
>+30FPS
Into the trash it goes.
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>>248361308

Then why did everything Nintendo showed at E3 run at 60fps?
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>>248361605
>knows literally nothing about Suda other than cell shading
You really are just embarrassing yourself now.
>>
>>248361532
Because 4k 60 fps monitors aren't being made yet you little dumb shit. I'm not going to upgrade to a 1440 set up just to upgrade yet again in a few years when affordable 4k monitors hit the market. Also, games like Witcher 3 are going to push the card to its limits even at 1080.
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>>248361308
>Frame rate optimization happens towards the end of the development cycle.
Nope, it's an ongoing thing.
>>
>>248361778

never ever
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>>248361791

Because they have the graphics of a cell phone game.
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>>248355226
>+Chromatic Abberation

I get enough of this shit with my glasses. Please no.
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>>248360848

>no story

Them's fightan words
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>>248361668
Have fun with that with the undoubtedly shitty netcode that it'll most likely have.
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>>248359434

He was referring to the Link vs. Kid Icarus short you complete retard.
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>>248355226
>30

Keep dreaming, it;s currently low teens, single digits
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>>248361485
Actually I'm sure there will be a ton of scrubs crying about no shields.

From should troll them by adding lots plank shields that break in 20 hits (unrepairable), basically like a shield consumable.
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>pay2play online features
This is the future you chose
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>>248361882

Then why do they look good?
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>>248361554
Should we report you for avatarfagging/spamming since the start of the thread as well? Agreed tho, all shitposters must be purged.
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>>248360997
PvP was not even confirmed.

Personally I hope that there won't be any invasions/PvP as it used to be. Because that always attracts the worst kind of players.

Maybe make it something like RE6. This is one of the few things that this game got right.
>>
>>248361815

No it won't. 4K 60 FPS monitors ARE being made, and you're still a retard for buying a 780 to power a baby monitor.

I thought I was overkilling it with my 780Ti for just a standard 2560x1400 x2 setup. Holy shit.

It's funny cause you could have spent some of the extra waste cash on a PS4. Maybe then you wouldn't be so salty about not getting to play Bloodborne.
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>>248361989
>shorts
>only one
He either wasn't or you both retarded.
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>>248361792
If you think Suda is a westaboo, you're a retard.

His game was originally going to be a full priced title.
It originally had a very distinct style somewhat similar to Guilty Gear.

Now it's being pushed as a f2p game with a very generic western art style.

That is not something Suda would do.
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>>248361601
>sub-15 fps
>FANTASTIC FOR AN ALPHA!
>BASED as fuck!
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>>248360324
>and two PCs that are faster than yours.

Lotta shit talk round these here parts
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>>248362112

Because art overpowers technology every time when it comes to aesthetics? Same reason why Demon Souls & Dark Souls were the best looking games of last generation despite being horribly coded. Same reason why Bloodborne will be the best looking game of this generation despite being horribly coded.
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>>248361392
i saw it too and it looked 3 times as fast as any souls game obviously not the frame rate but the actual gameplay even with dual wielding. that and the fact that there's (supposedly) no shields and improved dodge mechanics makes it seem like it was meant to be played fast and hard instead of the god awful slow poke gameplay of the previous games.
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>>248361280
>id be surprised if they are removed, being as though theyve been a staple of the combat for the entire series
Combat looks much faster now and it would be too easy to get behind enemies now
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>>248361668
rolling, fatser movement shit like sidesteps on mid attack help to get over defensive play. I dont know why remove it, tough. just rollling around to see who hits who first and win isnt that fun.
smae for taking out magic. he is enforcing a playstyle and i dont agree with that, might make the pvp less versatile than ever.
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>>248362192
Still embarrassing yourself, I see.

Guys a complete fucking westaboo. Do your research instead of shitposting and crying about how stupid you are next time.
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>Been in development since AotA was finished
>still isn't even in alpha
They made Dark Souls 2 in that same amount of time. I'd expect that they'd be further along with it by now.
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>>248361308
>Frame rate optimization happens towards the end of the development cycle
>"Tighthen up the graphics on level 3!"
It doesn't work that way.
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>>248361308
>Frame rate optimization happens towards the end of the development cycle.


Posts like this are why I come to /v/
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>>248362131
I have a PS4 you idiot, why do you think I said I was so disappointed at how poor of a showing Sony gave it this year? Nintendo destroyed them, it was sad because now my PS4 will continue to collect dust until Bloodborne.
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Honest question from a Nintendofriend:

Is there anyone legitimately excited for this game or are you all just being ironic?
I mean, it just seems like the exact same thing as before, but with certain features removed. Like a stable framerate
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>>248362302
Demons souls and dark souls were not the best looking games of last generation though.
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>>248360327
>one of the worst games i'd ever played

Your library of games played must be very small
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>>248362302
>best looking games of the last generation
i think you mean worst not best. sure they had good art design but graphically they were all fucking horrible and barely a step up from the launch titles of that generation.
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>>248362302
>Same reason why Demon Souls & Dark Souls were the best looking games of last generation

Man the Souls fanbase is really getting to sonic tier these days
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>>248362409

itll just be like demons souls all over again

we also know next to nothing about the game realistically

he said a bunch of shit about gadgets and stuff so who knows

im just happy i wont see turtles
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>>248362113
Doing my part for cleaner threads

This land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind
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>>248362448
>isnt in alpha
Just stop. Pre alpha is textureless, unaminmated cubes.
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>>248361718
It was implied.

Making the game run smoother, fixing bugs and making sure everything works correctly is done at the last few months before the game comes out.

Why devs do this to themselves I would never know, some have horrible crunch time schedules.

>>248361791
Did you not read what I said?
The game isn't ready for a public showing.

If Nintendo can showcase their game to the public its obviously further in development and more stable to be shown.
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>>248362443
Show me all the games he's made with a generic western (hurr so realistic look at all the grey, brown, and bloom guys!) art style.
There are none, because one cornerstone of Suda games are unique art styles, and it's one of the best things about them. Let it Die is fucking sickening and made me want to throw up.
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>>248362448
>being finished in around 6 months

kek, I bet sony put a lot of tight development on it to get it in early 2015
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>>248362495
Nice shitpost.
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>Game has NO shields, such equipment piece does not exist.


I AM SUFFICIENTLY HYPE.
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>>248362495
>I mean, it just seems like the exact same thing as before, but with certain features removed. Like a stable framerate
>implying souls game ever had a stable framerate
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>>248362617
and im sad that i will just have one playstyle, probably making the faster wepon the best if not the only option.
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>>248362779
I'm just confused why anyone would be so hyped over 10 seconds of horrible looking gameplay when there's a lot better things to look forward to.
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>>248362106
First party games don't require PS+.
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>>248354253
Okay, that's it. I'm hyped. This sounds like a fun game. Forget about whether or not it has a good story, whether or not it has good graphics, or any other bullshit. This sounds like a fun game
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>>248362495
>Nintendofriend
>Is there anyone legitimately excited for this game?
>like the exact same thing as before.


Tell me YOU are being ironic here.
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>>248362495
>I mean, it just seems like the exact same thing as before, but with certain features removed

It worked for Dark Souls 2. Don't be surprised, they'll take anything remotely similar, they genuinely believe this is the epitome of gaming, and the developers will be dumbing these games down until they sell enough to justify continuing the rehash train.
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>>248362693
>because his games are cell shaded, he isn't a westaboo
Keep embarrassing yourself, kiddo.
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>>248361308
>Frame rate optimization happens towards the end of the development cycle.


Wow this is really educational. Source? Love to learn more
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>>248362991
Of course, he's a falseflagging shitposter.
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>>248362094
>Actually I'm sure there will be a ton of scrubs crying about no shields.

No doubt.
But I still remember the moment I dropped my shield in DaS and just worked on rolling.

It was so much more satisfying than just blocking everything.

Pretty hyped for Bloodborne.
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>>248362913

im sure there will be a plethora of playstyles bruv dont get so down over it
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>>248358817
I'm PCfag and think consoles are 100 times better than PC.
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>no shields
Someone tell me how you're supposed to deal with guns then? At close range you're fucked and the other guy can just spam r1 and win.
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>>248362925
>made great games
>making a new great game
>alpha footage isn't 120fps
>doesnt have squid waifus
YOU SO RIGHT MY EYE OPEN NOW
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>>248363017
He's not, but you're ignoring the point.
What about Let it Die's terrible art style looks good?
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>Game has NO shields
R1 spam wasn't prevalent enough apparently
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>>248361485

Boy it'll be like Demon's Souls.
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>>248363125
Roll.

Guns are probably slow as fuck and have long reloads like Crossbows.
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Wow, mods are finally doing their job. There is a hope for this board.
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I was excited for it until I saw the gameplay. Its literally the exact same thing as Dork Soles, just re-skinned. They've even go as far as to re-use the exact same slash and strike sound effects from the last three games. I'm not excited. Here I though we'd be getting something new.
Thanks From
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>>248362409
taking out magic doesn't mean a form of offense similar to magic won't be in the game. We don't know how the technology/invention system will work
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>>248362925
did you see splatoon man? holy shit it looked fucking amazing
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>>248362495
I have played 700 hours of DaS1, 9 characters.
I have played 300 hours of DeS, 3 characters
I have played and am currently playing DaS2, 400 hours in, 5 characters.

I am very excited for any Hidetaka Miyazaki that isn't a mech game.
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>>248361308
>but it's a BETA
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>>248363295
>rolling from a gunshot/shotgun/musket etc

Sounds retarded
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>>248363220
He is, you complete retard. Do your research before flaunting around like a retard.
>resorting to strawman
Okay, we're done, you're obviously retarded and have nothing of value to say.
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>>248362937
That's not true though.

F2P and sub-based games don't require it, all other online games do.

However, even that's not accurate because things like Driveclub still allow you to compete with your friends when it comes to the challenges.

So, basically, I don't know, but there's no way with live online will it be without plus.
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>>248363432
>>248363214
To be fair, Splatoon actually had over an hour of gameplay shown to the general public. That's a much nicer concept than having 20 minutes shown to press behind closed doors and showing nothing to the public.
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>>248363376
>reused sounds
What are placeholders?

>no new things
No shields.
Enemies are not static in levels.
Bosses will ambush you without a fog gate.
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>>248363440
>I have played and am currently playing DaS2, 400 hours in
>400 hours in 3 months

Impressed.
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>>248363376

the difference is that the gameplay in the series has slowly gotten clunkier and slower in order to make the game seem more difficult, dark souls 2 being the absolute worst offender

the fact that theyre actually speeding shit up and removing shields in favor of a system that is quick and responsive (even more so than DeS) is pretty fking great
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>>248362650
>everything works correctly is done at the last few months before the game comes out.
no, unless you are shitty at developing cycles.
if you do this and there's an error that need a compete overhaul of something then you are ending up wiht a huge problem. Optimization comes togheter with developing and at many stages or goals of them you dont leave it at last unless you are a coding god, wich form isnt
and i think it should be noted and criticised since it affects the quality of the overall game.
Also this isnt a PRE-alpha
i would doubt is an alpha even, you dont find this shit on an alpha and the game is coming in less than a year.
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>>248358651

To me it sounds almost exactly like Hollowing.
Tainted/Pure Blood is just Souls/Humanity, beast mode is hollowed mode.

"Visuals" changing probably just means your character looks different, like being hollowed did in Dark Souls.

"Gameplay" changing probably means something tiny like being auto-summoned as a beast invader in other people's worlds or something.

I'm really hype for this game because I'm a huge DeS/DaS fan, but let's be realistic. It's From we're talking about.
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>>248363520
Just as retarded as rolling away from magic lightning bolts and arrows right?
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>>248363642
>to be fair a game near completion hadpublic footage and a game in alpha wasn't public because retards would take to the internet with >5fps djhdixhdhdbd

What a compelling argument.
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>>248363432
Probably shown for 3 hours or more on the Nintendo Treehouse, it didn't look that impressive to me but the situations are far from analogue Anonymous
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>>248363524
So basically, you have no counter argument. The game's art style is dogshit, it's nothing like what Suda would do if he was given a choice (he was almost certainly forced to change it from what they had going with Lily, which is something I'd actually expect him to do), and now it has been turned into a western shit stain style that can be found in 10 thousand other games.
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>>248361308
If you watched the trailer it chugs as well.
http://a.pomf.se/vbeyjk.webm
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>>248363826
Obviously a bullet travels faster than lightning
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>>248363642
I was being a smartass the game looks like a 5 year old designed it only reason ppl love it is because of the loli porn that is coming from it
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>>248358740
There are human NPCs who have pure blood
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>>248363880
Not him but

>muh last word

You're pretty funny.
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>>248363861
>a game in alpha

If Boodbourne was in alpha they would barely even have an engine to show pre-rendered footage in, the amount of armchair developers in this thread is astounding.
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>>248363920
That's from TGS2013.
And you just answered why they didn't show it.

The E3 footage looks way more stable besides the 3 second hitch while the level is loading.
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>>248363861
you knwo platoon is going to show way later than spring 2015 right?
and actually managed to make a running version of the game even without singleplayer even done.
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>>248363646
>What are placeholders?
>B-but its a beta!

>No shields
Because shields were mandatory in the last games right?

>Enemies are not static in levels.
That's nice, so now it'll take slightly longer for the same area to become repetitive

>Bosses will ambush you without a fog gate.
>What is DDF ng+?

again, nothing new
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>>248363861
What?
Splatoon doesn't come out until 2015, same as Bloodborne.
Same with The Witcher 3, which will probably come out around the same time as Bloodborne.
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>>248363826
>>248363997
But seriously, including guns as stun options is retarded.
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>>248363520

They'll probably be pretty easy to avoid.

If they're anything like crossbows they'll probably have a noticeable wind up animation, and will most likely shoot where you are at that moment rather than where ever you end up. If it just tracks you then timing it with invincibility frames will make it no different than evading homing arrows from crossbows.
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>>248363997
Obviously.
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>>248363719
Dark Souls 2 is much faster than 1. The fuck are you talking about?
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>>248363920
>unreleased trailer from 9 months ago.
>relevant
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>>248364154
This, half of it just sounds like the typical marketing shit, especially the latria comments.
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>>248364098
>It has a unique art style
>It's a new IP
>It has a really unique concept of gameplay

>So it's kiddy shit
I feel bad for you people. You really limit what experiences you get to enjoy.
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>>248364130
>no one in the history of ever has mocked up a demo for E3
You're an idiot. Why not go after the people saying it's pre-alpha and actually do some good?
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>>248363440
>not liking mech games
it's like you don't like going fast, customization, or having fun. what kind of monster are you?
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>>248364176
Nah.
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>>248360892
>Nintendo blew Sony the fuck out pretty easily
I actually own a Wii U and the only stuff Nintendo showed that I'm hyped about are X and Bayo 2, both of which I've known about since 2012.

I'm skeptical about Zelda since the last two main series games have been dogshit.

So overall the PS4 presentation actually got me more hyped and I don't even own one.

OPINIONS.
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>>248362495

I gave up on video games entirely until I played Dark souls 1. I played Dark souls 1 for almost 1500 hours. I played Dark Souls 2 for 350 hours. I played Demons Souls multiple times through after buying a PS3 specifically to play it.

Yes. I am legitimately excited. Yes I will be buying a PS4 for this game and this game alone. I fully expect it to be the best game released since Dark Souls 1.
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>>248363646
>No shields.
That's not a new thing, that's removing a thing.
>Enemies are not static in levels.
That's such a basic thing that it's kind of stupid that they're only just implementing that now.
>Bosses will ambush you without a fog gate.
Not new. Asylum Demon didn't have a fog gate the first time and Stray Demon doesn't have a fog gate. Also depending on whether you call some enemies bosses or not because there were enemies in Dark Souls that definitely seemed like they could have been bosses that didn't have fog gates, like the Hydra in the Darkroot Basin.
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>>248363646
>Enemies are not static in levels.
in both the traielr and demo they are static as hell.
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>>248363593
anyone?
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>>248364265

Are you retarded?

Every attack is slow and unresponsive as fuck compared to 1, and has incredibly obvious input lag and recovery lag before and after every attack. The only exception is daggers, and they're still slower than they were in 1. Dark Souls 2 is objectively the most sluggish and unresponsive game of the series.

This isn't even an opinion.
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>>248364345
The idea is cool don't get me wrong just the way it looks turns me off completely
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>>248364358
Nobody has ever mocked up a demo that showed so little, but also managed to look so poor before, that's for sure.

It would have been better to not show anything frankly, and i'm saying this as someone who owns a PS4, currently this is one of the only good things to look forward to, and there are people shitting all over these threads because they displayed it poorly.
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>>248364153
>>248364167
>a far more simple game made by people who know how to code had a better E3 mock up
SHOCKING
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>>248362451
>>248362454
>>248363031

Im speechless.

Yeah that doesn't happen at all. Now tell me did Demons Souls have this shit of a frame rate in this area when it finally came out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhkY1eqA_fg

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_8917_en.html
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>>248364265
not that anon, but I think comparing speeds is a weird thing to do with Das 1 and 2 because some things are faster and other things are much much slower. For instance in 2 running is faster, but you can't run for NEARLY as long. Combat in general seems faster, but that may be a placebo affect because you're forced to face a lot of enemies at once so you need to play differently. Another weird anomaly is that even at 105 AGI estus drinking is comparitively slow to 1 where you drink like a champ
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>>248364441
>That's not a new thing, that's removing a thing.
And replacing it with something else + an entirely different playstyle (offensive vs defensive).

>Not new. Asylum Demon didn't have a fog gate the first time and Stray Demon doesn't have a fog gate
Tutorial levels.
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>>248364602
>input lag
>using m+kb without autohotkey
>bitching about input lag
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>>248364671
It's From. Expecting a rushed mock up to look good is retarded. I agree they shouldn't have shown anything.
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>>248364747
>Tutorial levels.
Stray Demon isn't apart of the tutorial though.
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>>248364378
Splatoon
S.T.E.A.M.
Pokemon ORAS
Hyrule Warriors
Smash
Star Fox
Devil's Third
Kirby and the Rainbow Curse
Yoshi's Wolly World (besides the music, actually looks like a good Yoshi game)

On the side of confirmations
>2D and 3D Metroid being worked on
>SMTxFE still in development and on track
>New FE game in development
>New Advance Wars in conceptual stages

You don't have to be excited for many or any of them to admit that Nintendo had a much better showing.
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>>248360084
there is character customization you fucktard
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>>248364747
>Stray Demon
>tutorial level
>>
For the coming years, I don't see myself getting a PS4, but I'll admit, Bloodborne looks pretty damn interesting, even if OP's post is false.
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>>248364602
>This isn't even an opinion.
Of course it isn't. You are in fact fucking wrong.

It is very noticeable on heavy weapons.
Try to using one in DaS1 and compare the same weapon in DaS2.
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>>248364602
DaS2 isn't slower paces, you just don't have infinite stamina like DaS1.
So stop playing it like a Dynasty warriors game.
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>>248364682
>Now tell me did Demons Souls have this shit of a frame rate in this area when it finally came out?

No, because they worked on it both before that showing you're linking, improving it to the point where it was at, and then worked after that, during the development cycle, to make sure it wouldn't all be on the back end. That's why it didn't release with that framerate, you are incredibly ignorant.
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>>248364682
>Im speechless.

And I'm waiting for your souce.
Let me guess, you're a game dev!
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>>248364681
What about Witcher 3?
That's a far more complex game than Bloodborne is.
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>>248364789

I played on the ps3, though

I legitimately have no idea how anyone could consider Dark Souls 2 faster. It's not even a matter of opinions, it's like literally seeing that one is in fact slower than the other and just consciously choosing not to believe it.
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>>248365070
>no idea how anyone could consider Dark Souls 2 faster.
Framerate
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>>248361308

> this stupid.

Brother are you fucking kidding right now. If you can't optimize properly, you can't beta test properly. You can't really beta test your own game if it runs at silky smooth 15fps on an area that is as utterly consuming and allreducing as a fucking tower with a little road ontop of it?

I don't even know how to game developer but you seem to also lack common sense
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>>248365056
It's made by people who know how to code. Did you read my post?
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>>248363080
99% of people in DaS just wore the grass crest shield above all else cause of dat stamina anyway.
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>>248365056
Skyrim combat.
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>>248364681
>now how to code
that's the point and splatoon actually has 8 players doing shit on the game.
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>>248358456
PC MASTER RACE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrUf-QBBngY
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>>248363593
That guy said a lot of things.
He said he'd record himself cutting off his finger too
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>>248365337
What are you even on about?

I said From can't code.
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>>248364982

Nigger I mained a strength build with heavy weapons in Dark Souls 1 and 2. How can you even make that point? It's fucking baffling. Every single attack has noticeably more wind up, and has noticeable more recovery time after before you can swing again or roll.

>>248364990

Stamina has nothing to do with it. It's attack and recovery frames.
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>>248360474

Because you're doing over half of the shitposting. There's also revenge shitposting for all the "NEVUR EVEUR" threads that are popping up every single day around here.

1 game on 2015 with silky smooth -15 fps. Thanks Sony.
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>>248365334
Lol
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>>248361585
>just don't pretend nintendo is a weeb machine when it never was nor does it try to be. :^)

okay.
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>>248364682
>no answer

Shitposters got btfo
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>>248365532
>Nigger I mained a strength build with heavy weapons in Dark Souls 1 and 2. How can you even make that point?
So do I. When was the last time that you played Dark Souls1. Just curious.
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>>248365004
>you are incredibly ignorant

And you are incredibly hypocritical. You just said what I have been saying.

> because they worked on it both before that showing you're linking, improving it to the point where it was at, and then worked after that, during the development cycle, to make sure it wouldn't all be on the back end.

What do you think is the case here with Bloodborne?

If you were to even bother looking at the gamersyde video, just like the bloodborne video above. There is a no photography sign, meaning the game wasnt meant for public showing yet, due to the game not being optimized yet.

The game never shipped out with those frame dips in that area.
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>>248365056
Witcher had really shit combat compared to Dark Souls and like 3-4 boss battles.
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>>248364682
there's a big difference in time for des demo and release than bloodborn.
bloodpborn is in more of a hurry.
And while that part didnt have, does that emant demosouls was out of framrate issues?
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>>248365756

Yesterday.

I've been flopping back and forth between that and Dragon's Dogma.

I could ask the same of you.
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>>248364942
>>248364880
Same shit mien niggers.
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>>248364682
>Frame rate optimization happens towards the end of the development cycle.

Still waiting for you to tell the class where you pulled this from.
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>>248365951
Two days ago. I guess you win.
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>>248365904
Better world, shit ton of voice acting, tons of unique characters, fucking huge world, better graphics, etc.

Boss battles don't make the game suddenly more complex from a developer standpoint.
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>>248365960
You're retarded. Its only a tutorial level when you fight the asylum demon.
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>+Basically Souls gameplay but instead of ghosts of players, you will see ACTUAL players running around in your world.

So does this mean what it sounds like it means, or is OP just twisting it to sound better? Because this sounds fucking great.
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>>248358710
Jesus christ fuck you. Stop fromdroning like fuck. Making your game dependent on an online component whilst being largely single-player in design.
Literally cancerous opinion.
>Covenants were optional.
>PVP was optional.
Now
>To play the game without crippling negative effects you must PVP and be MLG.
Fuck off From.
>inb4 mad-mustard, I've got a PS4 and wanted this but now I'm not sure.
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>>248365786
>You just said what I have been saying.

>Frame rate optimization happens towards the end of the development cycle.

Sorry
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>>248366156
It's always the tutorial level. Deal with it.
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>>248365342

On 'a tank full of shit' topic

>mods deleting 1/2 of the posts saying the game is bad
>mods deleting posts that say exclusives are bad
>mods deleting posts about >nogaems
>mods

Well I don't know what's happening, but ok.
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>>248365947
Des first shown at TGS 2008, which is September.

Game came out in Japan February 5, 2009.

What was that that you were saying? A big time? i dont think so.

Bloodborne wont be coming out till sometime next year.
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>>248365904
Witcher 3 combat looks pretty good.

I'm glad that both games got rid of the rolling combat.
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>>248354253
>Silky smooth 24fps
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>>248357163
Online was never necessary in the other games and they used NPCs to simulate online experience. Don't know why this would be different here.
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>>248366257
But then where were all the tutorial messages the second time around?
Nowhere, because its not a tutorial anymore you dumb fuck.
Stop being so butthurt because you were proven wrong about bosses without fog gates
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>>248366218
>No invasions
>Just a set amount of players in a world on each server
>You can come across players and trade items with them
>Fight them
>Shoot them off of bridges and ledges or activate traps.
>Or choose to ignore them completely


From pls
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>>248365495
and i said that's the point
a 20 year old studio cant still code for shit in 2014 and their games suffer becasue it. There's no reason to defend that in this thread, people should ask more form from specially in a consoles 3x powerful than a ps3 and with a far easier architecture.The game might still be good, but it will suffer from the studio technical mediocrity.
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>>248365031
>>248366060

Im not a dev and I wont lie and claim to be. I also wont waste my time anymore on this subject, you can believe whatever you want to believe.

Look at any behind the scenes making of any game being made for a console, or better yet when its in a transition period. Ps2 to Ps3 or Ps3 to Ps4.

You would keep hearing the same thing, the devs just want the game up and running, even if its at 10FPS, as they develop the game or work with new hardware they "optimize" to make it run well up until launch


Im done.
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>>248366584
>if you're in human form you're constantly afraid of beasts ambushing you

would be cool. Invasions without the "you are being invaded by a dark spirit" would be more tense
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>>248366845
>I pulled it from my ass

Thank you. You are indeed done.
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>>248366845
yeah and end up downgrading the game at the end to make it run like Das II.
>but muh b team
all of from is the same technically.
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>>248367183
Not him but it makes sense to me

Why would you bother with optimization except towards the end of the dev cycle? Your main concern is "I need this game to run on my own hardware" not "I need this game to run really well and be well optimized". Once the game is nearing completion you can optimize it. How would you even begin to do that until the game was practically finished anyway? Why the fuck would you optimize an earlier build that will be completely irrelevant a month later?

Not that this will be well optimized since most games aren't and this is From we're talking about.
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>>248367281
>yeah and end up downgrading the game at the end to make it run like Das II.

Different hardware.
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>>248354253
>+Bloodborne is a game funded and owned by Sony, exact same situation as Demons Souls.
Difference this time being that Sony knows its a wallet magnet.
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>>248357592
I remember hoping the torch would be used for unlocking stuff, kinda like how in OOT you light stuff and a door opens. I ran around lighting every torch I could but nothing happened sadly. The torch is so useless.
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>>248366389
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201406/10054828.html

http://www.4gamer.net/games/260/G026038/20140611097/
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>+Project Beast trailer is one year old and was pre alpha, Bloodborne shown at E3 was alpha.

What is alpha in this day in age of gaming anyway...

>+Using torch and lantern will be crucial, pitch black areas.

We all know this idea is going to get scrapped hard due to hardware limitations... I mean common, they can't even break 1080p with 60 fps... What makes em think they'll be able to do a lighting system like this.
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>>248367631
This.

In the end I just lit every torch to make the areas look better and I still had 3 hours worth of torches left.

Dumb.
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>>248366389
fuck

the cutscenes and stuff always seemed so much cooler than the (still cool) stuff that was in the games

kind of like lotr in a way

all the really badass powerful shit died a really long time ago and now youre just wandering whats left of it
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>>248367183
Yes cause when your building a game with many assets its best to optimize early on, just to add more assets and shit thus making the optimization irreverent.
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>>248367634
>those midget images

thanks for the try though
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>>248367727
That's even worse considering it's from
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>>248367727
Because it's a ps4 and not a ps3.
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>>248367727
>I mean common
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