NTR: Netsuzou Trap

>>2397862

Still don't get Yuma's random pink hair change from the manga to anime. It does make her seem more adorable though, which I suppose was the actual reason.

I've got to say, I'm enjoying this a lot more than I expected

>>2397946

I'm far from happy with the way the anime is turning out, last two episodes ending so fucking abruptly, I know they were chapter ends (or at least, the threesome offer was iirc) but it doesn't...linger at any point, someone in the last thread said the anime is like speedreading the manga and that's a perfect description, it's a show that runs for 10 minutes but still has a damn OP/ED. I would have sacced those extra few minutes and made the scene where Hotaru kisses a sleeping Yuma goodbye before leaving last a little longer, so we can get a sense of the poignancy of it, and Hotaru's feelings at that moment. (or in general)

>>2397952
Yeah, when I was watching I thought the story was so enrapturing that an entire 23ish minutes went by in the blink of an eye. Then I realized each episode was only 9 mins :/
Still enjoyable though

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>>2397868
It wasn't even consistent in the colored sections of manga. The opening chapter has Yuma with a sort of dirty ash blonde color

>>2398075

I'm just being autistic I guess, no reason why she can't dye her hair. Pink muff hair would look really cute though.

>>2398092
yeah, i kinda prefer the pinkish/reddish/blonde color in the anime, it looks pretty unique. i guess only hotaru knows if the carpet matches the drapes though

>>2398095

Which is insanely intimate and cute.

>>2397952
Lets hope citrus doesn't get this treatment.

>>2398095

I wonder if Hotaru is the type of girl to go down on Yuma.

>>2398122
easily, why wouldn't she? she loves yuma, and one of the ultimate expressions of love is sticking your face in your girl's pink taco and being absorbed in the tastes and smells that are so uniquely hers.

>>2398129

I suspect you are half joking, but it's true nonetheless. And I bet when Yuma saw Hotaru going downstairs she dropped so much fucking spaghetti.

>>2398137
joking? I'm 100% serious.i love eating pussy even more than getting mine eaten.

>>2398151

Sounds like you only do it to people you like right? Since I'm guessing you prefer giving it because you like how happy it makes people?

>>2398161
only to girls i love and am in a relationship with yes. that's one of the reasons i prefer giving, but also to me every woman smells and tastes a little different and i just like experiencing that

>>2398163

Just thinking about Hotaru and Yuma sharing this kind of love/joy makes me hopeful.

Do we have some news for the last chapter translated by Chaosteam. I would like a better translation ... it's been forever since they annouced working on it.

>>2398718
They're doing chapter 22 I assume?

>>2398949
Yes. They announced it but no news since.

Any thoughts about Katakura Ako's NTR manga? First two chapters are on yurhime @pixiv.

>>2398952
But you said a better translation, is there an existing one from ch22? If yes, could you post it?

>>2398977
Hard to say just yet. I don't think the other chick on the front that is "NTRing" the protagonist has shown up in the first two chapters yet. It appears the dude is a douche this time.

>>2398977
Sauce?

>>2398977
It looks quite interesting, looking forward to the next chapter.

I don't get the appeal of this NTR stuff. It's nothing but dull angstshit melodrama. At least Citrus is pure.

>>2399488
>Caring about purity
You are hilariously dumb if you think that places Citrus above NTR

>>2398949
>>2398952
Huh? You must mean 21. Raws for 22 aren't out yet.

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>Episode 6

>lights automatically turned off when the lewd commenced

>>2399676
Hotaru is sucha a hottie

>>2399543
Thought so, but ch21 is already translated isn't it? Or are they doing a better version?

Sorry for posting late, my manga only arrived today.
Here the drama cd https://mega.nz/#!g4AAjTbS!DUllfs7LpBDPOOh-BOfhJzgn8lPTeEzluubkj5mzpy4

>>2399839
And I think fujiwara is gay, because he did something really gay with takeda in this drama cd btw.

>>2399846
or was a yaoi fanservice.

>>2399847
Or both

>>2399894
Or none, we just don't know

He better not be, that'd be fucking retarded.

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Extra from vol 5.

>>2400073
>>2400074

No idea what they are saying, but this looks like possibly the last time they were actually happy together iirc?

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The colored pages are really good in the printed version, the colors are better.

Hotaru: "I'll make you feel better than Takeda ever has"

Uhm Takeda has never even gone that far haha Hotaru you've got no competition in that department. .. Yuma hence has nothing to compare to silly willy

>>2400115
It could have been translated as "would/could have" rather than "ever has". The Japanese isn't specific.

>>2400115
If you're gonna post like that, go back to falsebook.

>>2399839
i can't understand it

>>2400080
this is omake; it's not canon. there's an omake in vol. 2 where takeda and yuma are married. fujiwara and hotaru are also married, and yuma and hotaru are still fucking behind their backs.

originally the mangaka wanted to make it a series where yuma and hotaru were married and older and ended up cheating on their husbands, but I believe this was changed because Japan gonna Japan and they'd rather have high school girls

>>2399839
thank you so much! you are a god oneechan! hurry someone translate these moon runes for both the drama cd and the omake!

also forgot to mention, if someone wants pictures of the omake from the english mangas let me know I can post them

>>2400115
in the english I believe it's translated
"I'll make you feel better than Takeda ever COULD."

>>2400115
>how to show you are underage: the post

>>2400188

>Hotaru taking on the D

Is there nothing she can't do, what a girl.

>>2400198
It's actually been done before.

>>2400198
the pussy always wins. you can't beat the pussy. girls have an advantage, they actually know where the fuck the clitoris is

>>2400143
>>2400186
Sorry anons, my japanese isn't good to do a translaton yet.

Could someone translate the drama cd? Would be nice if someone do that tho.

>>2400226
does the drama CD have some kind of linear notes with the written script? If not I can listen and transcribe if we can find someone to translate. I know enough Japanese to know just the basic sentence structures to probably be able to do that. Could have it written in romaji or hiragana + katakana when it shows up, sorry I suck and that's all I know

>>2400233
Kodama used some lines of the manga on it. No problem with that anon, thank you anyway!

>>2400186
Onee-sama, could you post the extra chap from the volume 2? I always wanted to see that one translated.

>>2400188
No i think it's "I'll make you feel better than Takeda-kun does."

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>>2400250
the anon is saying about the official translation of the manga from that part.

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>>2400250
We were both wrong it's would

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>>2400240
Sure thing imouto!

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>>2400261

>>2400255
>>2400257
>>2400259
>>2400261
Lmao, Hotaru is huge perv. She wants Yuma's pussy so much that she can't controls herself.

>>2400263
>From here on, I want to make this story even more dramatic and get the cast into even messier situatons.

Kodama is truly a madwoman

thank you for postng the extra chap anon!

>>2400267
you're welcome! :) volume 3 (chapters 9-12) of the 7S translation should be here soon I'll post when it gets here for people who want translation verification or more omake!

>>2400277
thank you anon!

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I heard the two get to have sex in chapter 21 but the anime is too short and will not reach this chapter. How are they end the anime? Skip the rest of the chapters until chapter 21?

>>2400287
That is chapter 18 and I think the anime will end on chap 13 or 14. It is better you read since the begining, they did cut a lot of things.

>>2400290
I'm hoping so hard they hit chapter 18. I think they will just barely at this pace. It'll probably be the final episode, a nice resolution to end on

>>2399676
>>2400287
It would be greatly appreciated if you drop the avatarfagging. You still annoy us with that.

>>2399839
Oh, dammit, I've been sitting on that CD since it came out. I didn't know nobody had ripped it yet or I would've done it... FML

>>2400263
Damn, I remember tweeting back and forth with her about Latte-san's cat bed.

People still follow this trash even after she got pregnant?

>>2400390
Yes, because you know, she lied.
Now let us enjoy this cheap drama.

>>2400390
>How to spot someone who hasn't read the manga 101.

>>2400419
Yea textbook "I saw a page out of context on /a/ and came to troll the /u/ dykes with my superior morals"

>>2400404
She could've just been mistaken and had a scare from missing a period. Ofc most girls don't say "I'm pregnant" until they're sure but this is dramatic josei

>>2400450

I love how people come here to trash NTR as if we give a shit.

>>2400264

I don't that makes her a perv.

>>2400560

It's fucking dumb to keep asking if/why we're atill following it when we're on the nth fucking iteration of the NTR general, and have explained many times why/that we are.

>>2400522
This

>>2398163
I wish I could have a top like you ;_;

>>2400582
yeah, these people have autism
>>2400600
haha thanks. i'm a switch though i just like giving oral

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>>2400917
full version (it's a bit tad too slow so I made the previous one as well).

The quality of the animation dropped hard in episode 6. They didin't even botner to animate lewd scenes. Christ.

Just got around to watching episode 6. (I stopped reading the manga around where episode 5 ended). Damn just when the girls were at a good part that asshole appeared and spoiled everything. Was he already in the apartment, and Hotoru knew about him being there, or do you think he snuck in?

>>2401146
You know you could just... you know... start reading the manga again, nee-chan.

>>2400287
>>2399676
I didn't know avatarfagging is allowed now.

Anyone else feel really bad when Hotaru explained why she's with Fukiwara? ("I'm not a good person, so being with a good person wouldn't feel right")

Also, why is it so hot when Hotaru puts on lipstick in the OP? I think it's because it feels like some sort ritual I'm witnessing of a very sexually predatory girl.

>>2400996

A tiny bit was, we did see Hotaru reach downstairs and sink down to Yuma's bosom.

Also note, that Hotaru said Yuma was lonely because of the shit she's going through with Takeda, which is exactly what Yuma said to herself in her head. Hotaru just knows Yuma.

>>2401298
>hotaru explaining why she's with Fujiwara
she didn't really give the full story. i mean, it's true what she said... but in the manga later on it shows when she met fujiwara and how they ended up 'dating'.
they're not really 'dating' so much as they have a deal going. Fujiwara is a good beard for hotaru because he doesn't care about her emotionally at all. in return, fujiwara gets to bang her whenever he pleases. They both acknowledge they're using each other. Hotaru feels too guilty using guys that actually love her as beards I think

>>2401369

Yeah, but it still means she think that all she deserves. A guy she knows will treat her like crap because she IS crap.

Yuma clinging onto Hotaru today was so cute.

Were they supposed to have had sex at last in this episode?

>>2401408
It's later in the manga

>>2401413
The part where they wake in the same bed?

>>2401552
Yeah.

>>2398163
There are selfish girls out there. And when I was young there were girls who refused to go down on you even though they were definitely in a lesbian relationship. But thats the nature of inexperience mixed with teen angst, selfishness. Hotaru reminds me of a couple of those girls.

>>2401736

But Hotaru isn't selfish.

>>2401736
Yuma that is selfish, not Hotaru tho. Hotaru only wants to see Yuma happy.

the raws out in 2 days.

Why was Fujiwara so hell-bent on making Yuma tell Takeda she is a lesbian?

>>2402327
Because he wants to prove some kind of point about Yuma being a piece of shit or how you can't trust women or some shit I don't know. Most reasonable explanation is that he's just the male version of Hotaru and really wants to fuck him.

>>2402327
What he said should explain it. He thinks that by Yuma not telling Takeda what was going on between her and Hotaru, Yuma has been stringing Takeda along as "camouflage" (i.e., use him to avoid suspicion of her not being straight). Takeda was pining for Yuma and worrying about her and Fujiwara was the one who had to listen to him talk about him and Fujiwara got sick of Takeda making himself look like a fool.

He took a lazy, scumbag approach though. Not really "hell-bent".

Proper translation out of chapter 21 on chaosteam FB page.

Chapter 21 was already translated from the korean raws by an anon. This is a cleaner version from the japanese ones.

Next chapter (22) out in 4 days (korean raws in two days maybe if they are posted).

>>2402327
Either to isolate her so he can have her himself, or to stop her from leading on Takeda.

Do we know exactly why Takeda hit Fujiwara yet? It was before Hotaru played it off as a game she and Fuji pulled 'virgin Yuma' into so it can't be for that reason?

>>2402422
For publicly uploading what's obviously a private, embarrassing picture of Yuma.

>>2402428

But said picture shows she was 'like that' when he thought she wasn't. Don't get me wrong, he deserved it, but in Takeda's position, I'm surprised he went straight to Fuji and not Yuma.

>>2402431
Are you massively autistic or something? Of course he'd pissed at Fujwara for releasing a photo like that. He was demanding it be deleted.

>>2402433

He's a really nice guy I guess. I don't think that's a normal reaction by any means.

>>2402435
I suspect you're a bit of shithead for thinking it's not normal.

>>2402437

I never said it was a bad reaction.

>>2402439
Believing it's not normal is a bad reaction on your part.

>>2402443

No, it's just cynical, can you blame me? I don't know anyone who would act like that.

>>2402444
If you're expecting the worse of other people it's likely there's a problem with you. I'd be disappointed with people I know if they thought it was normal to go to Yume instead of seeing the problem as Fujiwara and doing to him.

>>2402447
>If you're expecting the worse of other people it's likely there's a problem with you.

No it isn't.

>>2402444
>>2402444
I can't speak for everyone, but if I was Takeda I would have immediately confronted Fujiwara, even though I don't know if I would have punched him straight away like he did.

>>2402501

How did he know it was him again?

Fujiwara posted it under his own name.

>>2402507

Oh right, absolute madman.

so is this show /u/ or is just het bait garbage?

>>2403087
het garbage. the worst kind.

>>2403087
Hetbaiting garbage with real yuri love content and certain yuri ending.

>>2403089
Kill yourself.

>>2403087
It is yuri but there is het in it. There is a very, very small amount of het (one kiss) at the very start involving one of the girls. And a fair amount of off-screen het (sex) involving the other girl. The story is about the yuri, and about the romantic feelings between the two girls.

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I can't believe than I'm so happy this happening
(chapter 20)

>>2403132
Hotaru did nothing wrong.

>>2403133
Breaking the heart of the other girl in a yuri manga is not wrong?

>>2403135
Wow, all Yuma had to do was say "Yes. Go out with me."

>>2403137
But that would make the manga ending too soon, it needs drama, I'm actually first time curious what Kodama planned next with Yuma.

Fake or real date with Takeda?
Date Fujiwara to free Yuma?
Yuma coming out herself?
Yuma dating someone else, maybe some new girl?

>>2403137
There is almost no chance that would have worked. Hotaru would have simply done more to push her away.

>>2403137
Ms. Drama Queen wouldn't be please with this outcome.

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>>2403142
Hotaru has shown herself to actually be pretty weak when it comes to dealing with Yuma. She's just been in the advantageous position most of the time, she's actually quite vulnerable, as we saw in that morning after shot and when Yuma went on the offensive in their kissing. I really think a confident Yuma who actually went for Hotaru could get her no problem--this is the girl she's been in love with for years after all.

>>2403143
Kodama?
Obviously she wouldn't have actually said it. I'm just saying she could have.

>>2403139
>Yuma dating someone else, maybe some new girl?

Well, Yuma is single and now there's evidence she might be gay, and pic related: There was that scene where her female friend saw her making out with Hotaru behind the curtain.

>>2403132
>inbe4 abusive Yuma.
Didn't Yuma do this in the previous chapter though?

>>2403149
>Yuma dating someone else, maybe some new girl?

Well, Yuma is single and now there's evidence she might be gay, and pic related: There was that scene where her female friend saw her making out with Hotaru behind the curtain.

I don't think it will happen, it's clear to me that Yuma is attracted to Hotaru only, so she only will be happy with her>>2403149

Episode 7 up on nyaa.

The manga fan translation is all wrong, now that makes more sense to be honest.

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>>2404409
>Avatarfagging again
I pity you for being a retard.

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Saborouta drew the end card this time, I love her art a lot.

>>2404419
Wow, that' s absolutely stunning.

>>2404419
Nice, but I think the way Saburouta draws eyes is pretty scarY looking

>>2404429
>the way Saburouta draws eyes is pretty scarY looking
Wtf, why anon?

>>2404419

Yes, I enjoy Citrus for the feelgood aspect of it and the characters, but her art is 10/10 and I'd respect just that aspect even if I didn't like Citrus.

Yuzu would bring Mei and Yuma together no problem.

>>2404434
Their eyebrows I guess is what's freaky looking, not so much the eyes. Yuzu and than new weird Senpai look like they're being terrorized all the damn time

>>2404459
You mean Hotaru and Yuma dunce anon

>>2404519

Fuck me, thanks, anon, yeah I meant Hotaru and Yuma. I mean I like Hotaru but...she's not right for Mei.

Hate to bang a dead horse, but they really sped past the scene of Yuma trying to drown out sounds of Hotaru having sex, but I guess not as badly as past episodes have blitzed through the more emotional parts I guess.

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>>2404530
Because the song is copyrighted? Or this is photoshoped and it is something else in the raw?

>>2404609
It is photoshopped. There isn't that song in this scanlation.
https://imgur.com/a/Mr7j2

>>2404609
Honestly it's better with these lyrics than without.

>>2404521
Wut... did you mean not right for Yuma?

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>>2404419
Here. Have the 1080 version.

>>2404419
Only thing is that they totally look like Mei and Yuma

>>2404788
It kinda looks like Mei, but then again, both Mei and Hotaru have long black hair with hime-cut bangs.

>>2404788
Except Mei's hair ends different. Hotaru's end blunt, and because of the side they're shown from Hotaru's side tail is hidden, making her less recognizable.
>>2404790
Mei does not have hime cut

>>2404791
Oh, durr, yeah, she doesn't. she has longish bangs, but they're not cut straight across. My bad.

>>2404779

She's not right for either, whatever. I'm probably being retarded now, let me burn away, anon.

>>2404780

So are Sabu and Kodama friends then, I take it? Or there's a sort of close knit community of Yuri manga-ka?

>>2404793
They've mostly been getting Yurihime mangaka to do the end cards. One exception works for Gateau, which is the same publisher and same chief editor.

Yuma is starting to look like shit now, everything is clearly getting to her.

>>2404518
What senpai

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>>2404793
>So are Sabu and Kodama friends then
They've done a crossover or two for Ichijinsha promotional purposes. I know they know each other, but I'm not sure if they're friends like Morinaga and Hakamada...

>>2404874
I'm thinking nee-san is talking about Shiraho-senpai.

No raws yet?

Ch.22 raw
https://m.imgur.com/a/UmbZI

>>2405286
Well, that was anti-climactic.

>>2405291
No it wasn't.

>>2405286
Thank you anon! What is wrong with you Hotaru!.

>>2405286
Thanks!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

>>2404790
Hotaru is also a shortass with a cute face and shouldn't look anything like Mei's sharp features.

>>2405286
Should that hand grab be considered development?

Can someone who understands japanese give us a summary please?

>>2405312
I hope so

>>2405286
Thanks anon! Looks like Kodama is stretching so much now wtf.

>>2405312
Eh, I already expected the worst. Hotaru will grab her hand from Yuma so hard, the memory will make Yuma cry. Hotaru looked so hell-bent on protecting Yuma's image that she forgot she's still Yuma's bestfriend. She should still care.

>>2405314
Yuma's friends demands that Fujiwara erases the photo. He says he did it already and tell Yuma to ask Takeda. Her friends say she shouldn't get involved with Fujiwara and Hotaru anymore. She walks through the school and everyone is looking at her and saying "she's the one with the other girl in the photo", but she just remember what Hotaru said and starts to cry. Takeda is looking at what seems to be chat rooms where they're talking about it and is angry. He asks Yuma if she's okay. She says yes and thanks him, saying she's sorry.
Later she sees some guys teasing Hotaru because of the photo and runs to protect her. But Hotaru ignores her and goes to Fujiwara. Yuma thinks "that's right. Hotaru has Fujiwara. It has nothing to do with me." But as Hotaru and Fujiwara are walking away, Yuma grabs her hand, making her say surprised "Yuma-chan?"

So Kodama can finally stop the bullshit and make her character do something, but I doubt it.

>>2405351
Thanks for the summary. The story definitely needs a Hotaru pov right now. Because she seemed completely emotionless towards Yuma in this chapter and im dying for one.

>>2405351
Thanks anon-senpai!!!

>>2405351
Aggressive Yuma on the way, thank you anon.

>>2405351
And people go on Citrus thread and say nothing happen...seems like there is no development at all in this

>>2405351
Thanks, onee-san.

Waiting a whole month for practically nothing, honestly.

anyone else feel like chapter 23 is gonna be HUGE? with all those flashbacks I think it's finall got through Yuma's head that she loves Hotaru (yes homo)

>>2405378
Erm, no. Your default assumption should be ALWAYS that nothing happens.

>>2405375
I don't like this manga, but I got curious to see where it's going, and I buy the digital magazine anyway, so I'm reading it after skipping some chapters. I felt like I lost nothing, so you're right there. But the cliffhanger for this chapter is actually interesting, and if Kodama kills it next chapter by making Yuma to say nothing, she really deserves to fail.

I'm also feeling like the manga will give a happy end to Fujiwara somehow. That's fucked up, so it'll probably happen.

>>2405375
I think it's bit thick to regard chapters like this as nothing.

>>2405390
exactly; especially when so much happened last chapter. but if Hot

>>2405398
if hotaru says something like "it was all just a game silly Yuma chan!" and Yuma sulks only to get comforted by Takeda, I'm dropping it

>>2405401
Same. I have been defending this manga for a while, but if Kodama pulls that shit, i'm done.

>>2405375
Stay in your containment thread, thank you

>>2405430
yea, after 20 chapters of things going in a circle, there really needs to be some progression. the more hotaru tries to bring things back to toxic normality, the more she looks like an indefensible psycho

>>2405286
Christ. Kodama is relaying too much on cliffhangers without payoff. What a let down. Again.

>>2405446
>there really needs to be some progression.
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>>2400267
>>From here on, I want to make this story even more dramatic and get the cast into even messier situatons.

>>2405457
She has lost popularity since then, though. If she's smart, she'll end it soon.

>>2405446
The manga has always been making progress forward. I think some people regard further obstacles as going backward, but that overlooks what's changed, so seeing it that way is missing the point of what's happened.

>>2405464
Even its anime wasn't airing, I'd be pretty skeptical about someone claiming it has lost popularity. As it is, I don't even see the point in challenging you to provide a source.

>>2405476
Despite the fact that no one cares about the anime, it'll fall even more after its over. No one is so patient that they'll follow some drama that goes on circles. Low progression can work with a slice of life or even just romance. But heavy drama needs payoff, or people will just give up. Citrus works better because it has short arcs with payoff after each one.

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>>2405375
>>2405390
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>>2405384
>>2405446
Guys I think this time Yuma will really do something, she fucking realized that Hotaru probably lied to hide the lesbian thing to other people don't look with weird eyes and say really bad things to her (but that didn't work for Hotaru it seems, the boys and girls are saying that she is a lesbian). She realized that the people look with bad eyes when it's with 2 woman (a lesbian couple), then she did remember what Hotaru said to her (that between woman doesn't count and if she was a lesbian). After that she says that she already had suffered enough, that "that" (be lesbian) is impossible for her, then she starts to cry. I think is probably she realized that being a lesbian isn't something easy to deal with and that she is sad without Hotaru with her, that she is only truly happy with her. This time I guess she really accepted that being a lesbian is hard and that she needs to go through the difficulties of the society to be with the person that she truly loves.

>>2405487
If you had some sense you'd stick to talking about your own opinions instead thinking you're talking for masses of other people.

>>2405487
>Despite the fact that no one cares about the anime, it'll fall even more after its over.
The japs on the twitter are enjoying the ride.

>>2405487
And where did you get the info that it's falling? Since the last time we heard news about NTR's sellings was in one of its previous threads that said it had been sold 400k volumes.

>>2405494

I will die if this happens, I know it's popular to shit on NTR but I'm really rooting for Hotaru and Yuma, despite everything.

>>2405457
bite my clit. i was the one posting the 7S translations. not everyone impatient about the story is from /v/.
>>2405472
i've read the manga up to the current raws (know enough moon to stumble through it).
yes, we've had some great progression... for Yuma's character. She's broken up with Takeda, and realized she's gay and in love with Hotaru.
Hotaru however, is still messed up and toxic as she was in chapter 1. Maybe even more so. I want to see her develop more, as it is she's pretty hard to like for a lot of people.
>>2405494
beautiful. regardless of how Hotaru acts in 23, I'm really happy with Yuma's development this chapter. I think she's finally ready to come out, or at least really close to it.
Hotaru's plan really didn't seem to work. Everyone's stil circulating rumors, as you said, so it really is time to move forward. You can't stay in the closet when the entire school has photographic proof that you're a lesbian and thinks you're a lesbian anyways.
>>2405487
you =/= everyone

>>2405511
>You can't stay in the closet when the entire school has photographic proof that you're a lesbian and thinks you're a lesbian anyways.
They don't. It's more like they think Hotaru was doing what Fujiwara wanted, "selling" her friend because her boyfriend wanted to see something kinky.

>>2405512
you know moon and can provide translation? I dont fully get everything but the creepy dudes surrounding hotaru speficially use the word lesbian when talking to her.

>>2405514
They use "lez play".

>Ordered by a guy she sold her friend apparently.
>Wow, what a woman.
>Hey, for the next time you're doing lez play, ask your boyfriend so he'll let us join in too.

>>2405508
Same anon, will be nice if Yuma tries to steal Hotaru from Fujiwara now. I think it is time to her start to save Hotaru from her self-destruction.

>>2405511
>realized she's gay

She does? Last I saw she slapped the fuck out of Hotaru for even asking the question?

>>2405516
Hey anon, I'm not the anon that you replied but, couldn't you translate the chapter? It is short and doesn't have a lot of speeches too, if you post here someone can edit as well. Sorry for asking that without knowing if you want.

>>2405518

Well she did say as a kid that she'd save Hotaru from the bullies, but it's been the other way round many times over so far.

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>>2405524
Yes, she tried to save Hotaru from the guys like in the past in this chap too. She needs to act if she really wants to be with Hotaru.

>>2405522
Hotaru wasn't really asking. It was mocking her.

>>2405526

I still feel Yuma let Hotaru down BIG time when she was being/had been hit by Fujiwara. I mean, I don't blame her for not realizing that it's a loveless relationship because Hotaru is actually a good actress, but a black eye is black eye and you don't let someone touch your girl like that.

>>2405527

Either way, unless you mean this very latest chapter, when has Yuma ever said to herself 'I'm gay, that's why I miss Hotaru/didn't like Takeda in that way'?

>>2405516
yeah i saw that looking closer. thanks! i mean at this point anyways though this can't continue on like this. Yuma's gotta do something to save Hotaru (and herself, since she's being implicated)
Thanks for the translations!
>>2405522
you could interpret that a lot of ways. Yuma was clearly trying to confess feelings to Hotaru, and Hotaru didn't take it seriously. Also cultural context, rezzu is often used more as a slur in Japan afaik. Yuma tried to tell Hotaru she loved her, and Hotaru basically just said "What? We're just two girls, fooling around dummy. What are you, some kinda dyke?"
If I was in Yuma's shoes, I'd probably slap her too. Not for being ashamed of being called a dyke, but because she just took my feelings and laughed at them like this was all some kind of game.

>>2405530
Yuma's never denied being a lesbian. Her slap to Hotaru in my mind actually kind of proves it. Also she was very clearly extremely uncomfortable being physical with Takeda.

>>2405533

Yuma has no right to be angry about that, Hotaru wasn't straight with her sure (but she didn't want to lose her as a friend, so also understandable) but every time it comes up that Yuma is enjoying the 'practice' it's always "No, girls can't fall in love" or some bullshit like that, she even says this to herself a few times iirc. So she can't now turn around and say 'oh why won't you take this serious'.

She really doesn't deserve Hotaru.

>>2405534

More like she's outright denied lesbianism even exists iirc, the way she sees her interactions with Hotaru.

>>2405501
400k printed not sold. And we don't know if they included overseas there.

>>2405538
I think you're misremembering.

>>2405538
wow.... you're an idiot.

>>2405547

You're saying she's never denied it? Or said that two girls together is only fooling around?

>>2405562

nice shitpost.

>>2405581
>You're saying she's never denied it? Or said that two girls together is only fooling around?
She's never say anything that really means she thinks lesbianism doesn't exist, or that girls can't fall in love. She hasn't made general statements about things between girls not counting.

>>2405581
it was a shit reply to a shit post (yours)
yuma clearly knows what a lesbian is. your hotaru faggotry makes no fucking sense. saying 'yuma's a bitch for thinking it doesn't count between two girls' when hotaru's been whispering 'it doesn't count cuz we're girls lolololo' in her ear for the entirity of the manga. hotaru's no fuckin saint

>>2405597
>saying 'yuma's a bitch for thinking it doesn't count between two girls' when hotaru's been whispering 'it doesn't count cuz we're girls lolololo' in her ear for the entirity of the manga. hotaru's no fuckin saint

No one is saying she is, but Yuma is just as bad, and if she thinks it doesn't count between her and Hotaru then what is it exactly she thinks a lesbian is?

>>2405605
Different anon
>and if she thinks it doesn't count between her and Hotaru then what is it exactly she thinks a lesbian is?
In context her understanding (until she realized she was in love with Hotaru) had been a slutty straight molesting another straight girl, which is not what lesbians are.

>>2405606

You're saying after they had sex she knew she was a lesbian? Because I haven't got that impression, but I'd like to be wrong of course.

>>2405605
lots of girls apply stupid 'no homo' logic to fucking around with friends. being a lesbian means having an actual romantic relationship with another girl. neither yuma nor hotaru are evil, they've just got issues from growing up thinking girls need to love boys and two girls aren't a 'real relationship'.
and it's no wonder some girls think this way. look at how /a/ discusses any yuri series, this one too.
"Two girls can't have sex becuz no dick."
"Lesbians don't exist cuz they just need dick."
"It doesn't count as cheating cuz there's no dick."
A good chunk of the world thinks in this retarded, dick obssessed way. It rubs off on people sometimes. Coming out is realizing these people are full of shit and you don't need to buy into their dick obsessed autism.

>>2405606
>"I mean, i'd let a dude suck my dick, but I'm no faggot!"
Men don't realize that some straight girls think this way too.
>"I'd let her finger me and get me off, but that doesn't make me gay!"
(it does)

>>2405608
She knew she was in love with Hotaru. Whether she thinks she's a lesbian or not is not really important thing. Like, she doesn't need to explore whether she could potentially actually find love with a man. Currently Hotaru is who she's in love with and she's probably going to decide to not just avoid that lesbian relationship and that doesn't need to be because she's a lesbian and has no choice.

>>2405612
A lot of people are denial about homosexuality anon and it is all because of the society that makes the homosexuality be something abnormal, weird and wrong.

>>2405614
my point exactly. thank you oneechan. in a world where yuma and hotaru had no fear of people treating like shit for being lesbians, this manga couldn't exist. they'd just confess feelings and have a normal relationship.
>>2405613
i'd disagree and her way of dealing with takeda are textbook lesbian figuring out she's gay. totally uncomfortable even to kiss. having anxiety and panic attacks even thinking about sex. realizing her feelings for hotaru are different from her feelings for takeda and that she just thinks of him like a friend.

This all sounds awesome, why does no one give NTR as much credit as it deserves for Yuma's coming out issues?

>>2405616
There are similar love triangle stories where the protagonist is dealing with 2 people both male or both female (including yuri stories where a girl finds she doesn't want to have sex with one girl because in love with a different girl). But the point is that it doesn't really matter whether Yuma thinks her choice between them comes down to her sexual orientation.

>>2405618
/a/ is too busy LARP'ing as 'chads' and talking about how Fujiwara is their guy and how if they were in the show they'd just 'give these dykes a good dicking'.
/u/ is divided. some see it and are caught up in the character drama. but purityfags are too busy screeching autistically that het men exist in a yuri anime/manga.
a lot of blame is on the anime, which speedruns through the chapters and cuts a LOT of Yuma's internal thoughts, feelings, and daydreams. There's specifically a sex dream she has about Hotaru early on (when she's feeling anxious about their trip and how she's supposed to have sex with takeda. Takeda disappears in the dream and hotaru takes her place saying "but you really want to do this with me, don't you?"
but also part of it is readers who haven't been through the process of confusing 'practice' kissing & sex with a friend in high school, and awkardly denying your sexuality, coming out, etc... basically unless you've been through this shit being a lesbian it's hard to understand why hotaru and yuma do certain things(but to make matters worse, Yuma is particularly dense and hotaru seems to have some pretty messed up mental issues)

>>2405609

4chan is an egregious egregious example, with the

>lesbian ''''sex''''

meme and all that shit.

>>2405621
it does and it doesn't. Yuma has had zero sexual attraction to any men in this entire manga. meanwhile she's wet af for hotaru constantly. She even had a sex dream about her. Sure, she loves Hotaru because Hotaru is hotaru. But to pretend that sexuality is totally irrelevant to the situation is missing a huge point and a lot of cultural context. If takeda was a girl, they'd probably be together because takeda doesn't have hotaru's baggage. but its pretty obvious yuma hates being touched by men in any way

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>>2405622
>but purityfags are too busy screeching autistically that het men exist in a yuri anime/manga.
Yes, purityfags are cancer.

>>2405626

I feel they fucked up pretty hard still by not showing Hotaru take Yuma's virginity, unless they're saving it for a moment where it actually means something both ways.

>>2405624
true; but that meme is a big part of a lot of cultures and has been around forever.
before 4chan existed I still was told on the regular "but what do two girls even DO? there's no penis! It's not REALLY sex! Lesbians are just virgins, etc."
read up some historical attitudes on lesbians. most homophobic cultures focus their hate on gay men having anal sex. they tend to hand wave lesbians because 'two girls don't count because no penis.'

>>2405626
I'm not saying sexuality is irrelevant, I'm just saying it doesn't actually matter whether Yuma identifies as lesbian.

Also, if this were a story where Takeda were a girl, it would probably still be about the tragic childhood friend winning.

>>2405624
>>2405629
Yes, a lot of people thinks that lesbians only do mutual masturbation as sex.

>>2405627
yeah, this is fucking retarded. i've only seen het men or pretty masculine more butch dykes have this attitude because it ruins their fantasy of pure girls untouched by penis.
reality is different. a lot of lesbians try hard not to be gay because a lot of the time it'll mean your family hates you, friends treat you different, have to awkardly explain shit when applying to buy a car, rent a house, etc. people asking stupid questions at your job... if every lesbian that ever had dick once was suddenly not a lesbian, very few lesbians would exist. also people try and put lesbians in a catch 22
>when a lesbian hasn't had dick
"how do you know you don't like dick? you haven't tried it?"
>when a lesbian has had dick
"you've had dick so you're not a real lesbian, you cockwhore"

>>2405631
this people are so stupid. I've been being fucked by girls for years now but according to them those thousands of times don't count because it was just fingers or a dildo/strap. so i'm a virgin, but also a lesbian whore. I'm a virgin whore.

>>2405634

Do you differentiate between having sex and making love?

>>2405632
Totally this, damn I fucking hate those autistic things that some purityfags say. Makes no sense.

>>2405636
not really; i only have sex with actual partners i'm in a relationship with. i say for years now but have only had a few monogamous partners.
>>2405630
it does matter if Yuma identifies that way, because everyone knows about her and Hotaru. If they are in an actual relationship, everyone's going to treat them like lesbians anyways. Try explaining to people that yes, you might have a girlriend, but you're still straight

>>2405643

Aw, okay, I feel like Hotaru and Yuma have had the former, but not the latter, they've not connected all the way. But again, we don't know what the sex was like because we didn't see it. ;_;

I just wanted to see Yuma fail miserable to keep her composure.

>>2405643
What matters is whether she wants to have a lesbian relationship, rather than deciding whether she's lesbian or bi.

>>2405650
Yes, I agree with this, that is the issue now. But I think she wants a relationship now because of this that the anon >>2405494 said that happened to her in this chapter.

>>2405494

pls pls pls say "I need you" Yuma, pls.

>>2405648
ok i see what you're saying. you're probably right. i don't know i came to terms with my sexuality before having sex and having a girlfriend.
>>2405650
ok i understand now, i agree then it really doesn't matter in that context of her and hotaru

>>2405494

There's no way that look in Yuma's face suggests anything other than anger venting at Hotaru, not a desperation to cling on to her like I want her to.

>>2405674
She's consciously putting herself out there for Hotaru. Something that she hasn't been willing to do before, and Hotaru clearly doesn't expect her to commit social suicide to be with her.

>>2405677

Does the time she pulled Hotaru down to kiss her in hospital not count?

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>>2405674
It is actually, but she is also mad because she is ignoring her and jealous too probably.
You can see that is because of her thoughts in the previous page.

>That's right, Hotaru have Fujiwara.
>It is no longer of my concern.

>>2405681
She didn't expect anyone to know. Here, she's doing it in front of everyone, regardless of what they say.

>>2405683

She looks cuter the angrier she gets.

>>2405684

Fair enough, but the Hospital was a real 'When I thought I was out they pull me back in" moment for Hotaru still, I think.

>>2405487
>I don't like it and think it should fail.
becomes:
>Kodama is failing.
>Everyone things the manga is shit.
Please leave and quit pretending your opinion is what everybody else thinks.

>>2405789
That anon has been sprouting that bullshit about the manga being "hated" or "losing popularity" without showing the sales data, you know the thing that matters, to prove their point.

>>2405683
at least she's finally grown a fucking backbone

>>2405312
Please keep in mind that the author wants to torture these characters more, not less.

Just discovered this series like today.

Heard there was Yuri kissing etc so I hopped on.

Is the manga better? Is this related to CITRUS?

>>2406934
>Is the manga better? Is this related to CITRUS?
yes
what? no

>>2406934
OH HEY IT'S THIS POSTER WITH A VARIATION OF THIS POST YET AGAIN.

sage, every field, etc.

>>2406376
Where did it say that at? I've basically followed this series since it started, and am probably the biggest fan, and nothing was ever said abutit.

>>2406934
They take place in the same universe yeah, next year they will team up and be the Yuri Defending Avengers

>>2407731
>>2400267
It spawned the big stupid argument that occupies most of this thread.

>>2406946
What haven't you heard? Citrus and Netsuzou are two hot ass sisters.

>>2405286
Where's the scanlation though....

>>2407736
>Homura
>Shizuru
>Kuroko (Koumori)
>Kuroko (Shirai)
>Nanoha

I'd watch it.

>>2408401
Oh, hell, I'd watch the FUCK out of that, too, Onee-sama!

>>2408401
I don't know any of those dweebs

>My friend recommend this
>Thought is gonna be girl stealing other girl who have boyfriend anime
>Realize is a man/sexism steal 2 yuri girl with "Obey me or i leak yo secret" anime

This is the first time to feel so bad by a fucking NTR and I suppose to don't give a single fuck about NTR

>>2408712

It's just a 'will they/won't they' anime at the end of the day. And YMMV on how much you care, for me, I care a lot so it's why I keep watching.

>>2408712
... be honest. You didn't read the manga.
It runs in yuri hime. It's yuri. It will have a yuri end.

I watched the first episode but does this show become proper yuri?

>>2409312

>>2403130

>>2409314
Thank you

>>2409076
>You didn't read the manga.
Yeah, like i said before my butthead buddy show this to me and is my first time to know it

>It runs in yuri hime. It's yuri. It will have a yuri end.
Although that black hair girl get fucked by edgy boy twice who literally punch her eyeball to order to fuck her.
Too bad police doesn't exist in 2d world.

But hey, that's good to heard about the end.

>>2405351
;_; Yuma...

8 is up on nyaa.

8 episodes to cover 11 chapters now. I guess 16 is the most likely end point.

>>2410244
Yes, I was thinking about that too.

>>2410242
Whats that?

>>2410255
>Not knowing what nyaa is

You really need to lurk more.

>>2410255
It is a site to download anime and manga or related things to that.

https://nyaa.si/
https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/

It have 2 now, but Nyaa.si is the best one.

You need to lurk more if you not want to get bullied by the anons.

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>Episode 08

>Jelly Yuma
>Sexually frustrated Yuma
>Aroused Yuma
One day Yuma will snap and take the initiative. One day.

>>2410415
She is already doing that in the manga, why you don't read that btw? Is far better than the anime.

>>2410443

Or be an intellectual and do both and come here every week to moan about how much the 9minute runtime has crippled the anime.

>>2410443
Do we really need read manga first before watching anime or something?

>>2410472
Yes, if you don't want to look dumb and be constantly spoilered.

>>2410342
Is it perhaps better than kissanime or 9anime?

>>2410818
Yes, if you like to download stuff.

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>>2400404
>>2400390
>>2400451

She got an abortion. Hotaru was out of school for 2 days and you see her on a train out of town while Yuma is worrying about her. Then she gets a text from Yuma on the train and has a mini breakdown.
>>2402422
>>2402431
Takeda probably already knew about Yuma and Hotaru. He started seriously questioning what was up when he caught them in the infirmary. So when he saw the photo he put two and two together figuring out who it was that liked Yuma and was stringing her along. He's likely both pissed because it's a private embarassing photo of Yuma but also because Fujiwara was messy enough to expose Yuma and Hotaru's relationship in that way. Cause though there was good intent behind his actions, twisted as it may be, it was a super shithead thing to do to the girls.

>>2411094
It would have shown her in a clinic or something, rather than a train, if the story were supposed to be that she got an abortion. And she probably wouldn't have told Yuma she might be pregnant.

>>2411094
>>2411099

That would be SO fucking tasteless if the did an abortion story, they can fuck right off if they do that. I won't defend it like I have been until now.

>>2411105
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/an_absurd_relationship_ch01

Although I doubt NTR was actually a case of abortion, I don't think it's off-limits. It would make some sense if Hotaru had got accidentally pregnant, even while in middle school, and it would be fine for her to have aborted.

>>2411115
I would kinda get mad, coz she have been being careless, she could get some sexual disease...but well, it might be me, just being mad, coz she don't tell what she really feels, she is an idiot

>>2411099
>>2411105
>>2411115

What other reason would we see Hotaru riding a train? That scene wouldn't really serve a purpose otherwise. Kodama may include the clinic scene as a flashback. Unless of course, we find out later on that Hotaru went somewhere that wasn't a clinic.

Think about it. Japan isn't necessarily against abortions, they're a fairly pro choice nation. Maybe because they hold high values in the functioning family unit, which would be hard to maintain with children out of wedlock. So although it'd be frowned upon for people, teens especially, to have extramarital sex society would be more likely to accept a teen abortion for the sake of avoiding the complications that would bring. This is conjecture though cause I'm not from Japan.

The train scene could've been a safe way to imply what happened without actually taking on the taboo of depicting a teen at an abortion clinic.

>>2411181
>What other reason would we see Hotaru riding a train?
Going to look for a place to move out to.

>>2411181

I'm also pro choice but that isn't my issue, it's just too big a deal to use as just another element in Hotaru's drama, if it became a focal point and Yuma talked it out with her or something I guess it'd be fine, but I feel they'd use it as a throwaway point and move on to the next drama and desu it'd probably drag the story out too much as well.

>>2411094
I've been saying that, that Hotaru had an abortion but people quickly shot it down. I mean it's possible we can't just assume that's not the case.

>>2411105
But why not? Why do you dislike that path so much?

>>2411692

I don't think NTR has the chops to make an abortion anything other than a really cheap throwaway bit of drama, I'm pro-choice so it's not the abortion itself, it's also really unessecary too.

>>2411717
It's the kind of cheap drama this series thrives, though.

Also, I don't see why you think abortion is a "big" issue. It isn't. People who think aborting a fetus is "complicated" are the ones who equate it to a baby. You know, like religious nuts.

>>2411785
That's what I was trying to say. Apparently in Japan the act of the abortion itself is not that big of a deal for the general populace, it's really the events around why the person is getting the abortion that society would take issue with.

>>2411105
>>>/pol/
fuck off kindly please! :)

>Hotaru's reaction at the start of the episode when Yuma said she was worried about her

Killing me

Did Takeda actually catch Hotaru on top of Yuma in the Nurse's room? I remember him just catching Hotaru leaning back from the kiss, which is much easier to explain than the position he catches them in at the end of this episode.