Love Live: It's been 2 Years Edition

I want Ruby/Maru/Yoshiko to turn into a really ugly love triangle.

I like how the moment Love Novels became the fic with the most kudos in AO3's Love Live tag, the two jstonedd fics that fell from the top position both got some 70 new votes, putting them back. It must be really rewarding to a writer when that many new people find your two-year-old fics, and at that opportune a time too.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdBTreVEZV0

Preview for CYaRon's new single.

New preview for PDP has been released with 6 new silhouettes. Hard to tell which girls they are.

New Scans
http://www.moetron.com/post/160041329273/more-love-live-sunshine-scans-from-dengeki

Chika's Birthday Set
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yi9vOhRjcM

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Next the costumes have been revealed for the Duo/Trio project.

ChiKanan-

>>2323300
> jstonedd
You're entitled to your own opinion, but that doesn't fix poor taste.

jstonedd is a "good" writer by virtue of technical ability, ie. the capacity to string sentences together; and that is all there is to it. Her so-called characterization of anybody bears zero resemblance to how they are in canon.

Those two-year-old fics should have stayed dead and gone.

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https://twitter.com/_mushiyaki/status/857633332472840192

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>>2323329
I was being sarcastic and implying that someone voted for them dozens of times to keep them at #1 and #2.

That said, I think they are pretty funny.

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How do you feel about DiaMaru?

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>>2323338

>get most of the Valentine set in two 10+1s
>except for the one card I wanted (the Yoshiko UR)
JUST

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>>2323338
>>2323340
It has potential

>>2323335
jstonedd has some really weird "fans" ready and willing to tongue her backside, so the possibility doesn't surprise me much.

I do think we as a fandom and as discerning readers capable of decent decisions could do better, however.

Why are we bringing up this jstonedd again?

Not that it matters too much to me, for me, he's another writer who uses two tags I would not touch- KotoUmi and NozoEli.

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>>2323338
Cute.

>>2323433
>he
Jstonedd is a girl.

>>2323433
> I don't care! Let me proclaim to everyone how much I don't care!
Was this necessary.

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>>2323433
I can understand disliking KotoUmi, but why NozoEli? They're pretty much canon and have a nice mellow dynamic that I can't see turning anyone off. Are you just really into EliUmi or something?

>>2323482
It has to be that.

>>2323300
>Love Novels
I cant read that past 4 chaps. Im ok with the characters and plot but the writing irks me. I cant really say how or why but its not easy to read.

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>>2323433

I mean none of the characters in her fics really act like themselves so the labeling of the pairings doesn't really matter. And even in moments where they might actually come close to their canon personalities the dialogue usually sounds so stiff and wooden that it just sort of ruins things.

>>2323663
Is it the use of present tense? I thought it was generally well-written.

>>2323482
Not the same anon but I can't bring myself to read nozoeli because being so overexposed to it made me not want to read it. I don't have anything against tje ship but I won't be reading anything with them as the main focus.

>>2323663
>Love Novels
The premise reminds of some idol confessing about joining the industry just because her family was so poor and it was the only job she could do at her age. But it seems Nico doesn't have that mentality.

>>2323766
>Overdose of canon

>>2323300
>the two jstonedd fics that fell from the top position both got some 70 new votes, putting them back
her tmblerinas fans came to the rescue, it seems that she dropped her latest fic, thnak god because all the girls were too OoC for me

>>2323772
Actually, if Okapifeathers is still reading the thread, I'd be interested to know why she had Nico temporarily abandon her idol plans in favor of working as a waitress. They can't make that much more than beginning idols, can they? Or was the thinking that she initially tried to get signed but couldn't?

>>2323329
>>2323718
So has jstonedd committed some major sin to get so much negativity? I read the beginning of Buy Your Love and I don't see anyone being that OOC or sounding stiff.

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http://www.anime-expo.org/aqours-idolmster-cinderella-girls-join-anisong-world-matsuri-anime-expo-2017/

All of Aqours to perform at Anime Expo.

Also performing is 6 of the iM@S Cinderella Girls.

>>2323831
Let's bring flaming lilies instead of glowsticks.

>>2323871
I thought traditionally, you were supposed to bring a flaming cross.

>>2323482
They have a nice dynamic but I would not touch anything more than I need to. Jstonedd is one of these so called main pair shippers and I do not touch anything with these so-called main pairs since they are not my main pairs.

>>2323368
These relatively early days of franchises are fun, when a few lines in interviews and a piece of official art can inspire a ship.

I don't know how Maru would handle Dia's less than oneechanly moments, though.

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Happy 2nd Anniversary Love Live! Sunshine.

On this day, 2 years ago the full cast was revealed in Dengeki G's marking the official start of Sunshine.

>>2324383
Nice pants.

>>2324383
If that's supposed to be the little beach/pier where Chika and Riko spend time, the animators got the look down pretty well.

>>2324840
Kurosawacest is good only if Dia doesn't let Ruby touch her.

>>2324859
Do you want Ruby to stand in a corner schlicking while Dia masturbates to a picture of another girl?

>>2324880
It's fine if Dia's doing the touching.

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I want a doujin where Kanan and Ruby constantly fucks/cheat behind Dia and Mari's back. Something where Kanan blackmails Ruby into doing it with her.

>>2324827
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>>2324837
>>2324838
>>2324839
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>>2324846
>>2324848

PUREST

>>2325121
Kanan blackmailing a girl to have sex with her is like Warren Buffett robbing a gas station.

>>2325170
No one expects it? Thus it's the perfect crime.

>>2324859

Nah.

>>2325171
That iteration of Kanan exists only in your head.

>>2325171
Anon is saying Kanan doesn't need to.
Any Sunshine would willingly fuck her without coercion of any kind.
That includes Ruby.

>>2325275
That also includes the character's mothers, as well as all female extras.

>>2325121
>Something where Kanan blackmails Ruby into doing it with her.
You've been watching too much hentai.

It's okay. My fantasy is Kanan molesting Chika on the train.

And that is soft compared to what I think Yandere You would do.

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https://twitter.com/JUN4090/status/858662111496421376

Today, Aqours performed at Bushiroad's 10th Anniversary live.

Songs they performed were
KoiAqua
Todokanai
Aozora Jumping Heart.

>>2325275
I do like the idea of Ruby wanting to roleplay that, and Dia discovering some of their props out-of-context and challenging Kanan to a duel.

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>>2320029

So, I finished reading (the revised, officially published version of) this today. It was pretty interesting, but I think the sterilization of the text with the specific Nico/Maki references stripped out somewhat hurt the experience overall.

On the SF side, I was expecting a little bit more rigor, since after all it did receive a SF prize (not that the story is badly researched). However, reading through some reviews/impressions it seems most of the acclaim from the Japanese side comes from the story's integration of the "idol" concept moreso than the science. From that perspective it does make sense that the story received a "Special" prize from Hayakawa, instead of the regular "Excellence" award.

Overall, I would still recommend the read to any SF or NicoMaki fans with strong enough Japanese. However, what I'm really interested in now is how the text compares with the original doujin fanfic that was published in School Idol Fictionally. I (predictably) wasn't able to find the doujin in stock or in digital form anywhere online, but I don't have any experience searching things like auction or underground share sites. If an onee-sama out there has an idea of how I could find a copy of the original, I think I'd really appreciate it.

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>>2325795
>NicoMaki dystopian sci-fi fanfic
That's a sequence of words I never thought I would read.

>>2325808
There's also this: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/yazawars_galactic_crisis

Yeah, yeah, Star Wars isn't scifi.

>>2325795
Interesting. Were you able to recognize Nico/Maki as the MC in the novel even with the sterilization of the LL references?

>>2325956
The characters were fairly recognizably Nico/Maki. At least, in the sense that the overarching character backgrounds were still there (Nico's obsession with idols, Maki being the heir to a hospital/doctor family etc.), and there was also some interesting development of their motivations which was a fairly interesting take on the original characters. (Maki's reason for becoming a doctor, for example, becomes sort of tragically obvious.)

Overall, I don't have any difficulty referring to/thinking of the characters as Nico/Maki because they are clearly meant to be Nico/Maki. On the other hand, it's a bit more difficult to talk about in-character-ness 'cause past the first chapter the story enters full (and occasionally crazy) SciFi mode where the characters no longer live in a world that is remotely recognizable.

At risk of spoilers, however, it is also worth noting that Nico by herself is the main character, not NicoMaki, and that SF is a much larger component of the story than the yuri. That is actually one of the reasons I'm more interested in the original fanfic, since I feel like the author might have had to weaken some of the yuri elements to adjust for an audience that isn't necessarily expecting it.

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Lewd NicoMaki fic: http://archiveofourown.org/works/10770405
A bit too antagonistic, but damn if this wasn't hot. Some sweetness at the end too.

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I like spoiled Mari.

http://fairymascot.tumblr.com/post/157389812070/assorted-kanamari-minicomics-by-tamifuru-all-from

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>>2326009
Shit. Now I want to read the original fanfic.
Time to check Yahoo Auction.

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I forgot how much raw sexual tension there was between Dia and Mari.

>>2326009
>>2326339
I might want to keep your eye on Surugu-ya:
http://www.suruga-ya.jp/search?category=&search_word=&restrict[]=brand=%E5%9B%BD%E7%AB%8B%E9%9F%B3%E3%83%8E%E6%9C%A8%E5%9D%82%E5%AD%A6%E9%99%A2SF%E7%A0%94%E7%A9%B6%E9%83%A8

>>2326011
>Casual Sex
>One Night Stands
im not a fan of these tags but whatever

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It's been a year since the Last Live, and i still can't get back into the franchise. Fuck Aquors and fuck whoever came up with them

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>>2326465
They become a couple.

>>2326500
I don't like anyone in Aqours as much as the best girls in µ's, but they're overall a stronger group with no obvious weak links, unlike their predecessors.

>>2326527
>no obvious weak links
But flaws make diamonds shine brighter.

>>2326344
because there was none

>>2326547
After all the kabedon talk, there's really no other way to read that scene.

Maybe Kanan didn't tell You and Chika about Aqours mk. 1 becaue their activities tended to involve lots of confusing, socially inappropriate feelings and tentative explorations of them.

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>>2323808

I'm still here sometimes. Nico talks about it in the fic, she decided to work a more "stable" job to put money away for her siblings to go to college, because she couldn't afford to go even if she wanted to and she wants them to have the choice without taking on debt.

Realistically you won't make much as a small time idol anyway. I had a friend who moved to Osaka soon after graduating from high school and she joined some 40-person idol group because it was what she could find. They seem to be a dime a dozen lately... She ended up working part-time as a waitress on top of that at some themed restaurant and had a tough time saving $$. Nico's goal is make sure family has money, then try to break into the idol industry solo. I've always seen her as being more realistic about it, so she would know it can be tough to be successful/make any money.

Of course, others might not see that as a legitimate reason, but I'm not an expert and it is a fanfiction. There's more to come about that particular point in later chapters. Just my take on it.

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>>2326746

To add to this, I don't really want to elaborate too much when answering plot related questions here in case I give anything important away by accident. Glad to provide my opinions though, when I can.

>>2326344
They probably fucked right where the scene cuts off.

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>>2326527
>They become a couple.
It was better than I expected, I enjoyed reading it

>>2326746
I didn't realize the economics of idolhood were quite that dire. Thanks for replying.

>>2326307
Smooth operator right there.

I'm thinking of getting myself into LL Sunshine as well. But first, is there any overly girly and sugary song like Nico Puri here as well?

>>2326860
I don't think there's anything quite that strong there yet.

Incidentally, Nico Puri is an odd song. It makes perfect sense as a song about how Nico sees herself, but not as an in-universe object she would let her audience hear. She'd never admit how much effort her act takes or that it is in fact an act.

>>2326886
What? But I like girly shits.

>>2326906
That's the appeal of Nico to us viewers, but not the appeal of the character Nico tries to play in-universe.

Happy Birthday Pile.

>>2326886
>>2326915
Remember that Nico believes idols are meant to make people smile. A song about how smiling will help you overcome troubles and let you forge a path onward suits her just fine; she's encouraging the listener.

Besides, a song where the main refrain is Nico saying her own name? Of course she would enjoy it.

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>>2326527
>no weak links
>what are chika, ruby, that whatshername diver bitch

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>>2326968
Taste this bad cannot exist.

>>2326527
>No weak links
>Riko
Pick one

>>2326968
>Idol milfs
It's not fair, where's the porn for the concept.

>>2327122
If you hurry, you might still manage to get Yoshiko and not become Aqours' 9th wheel, You.

>>2326527
>with no obvious weak links

>Both Kurosawas
>Not weak links

They're the worst.

>>2327238
Where else are we going to get a source of incest? Content with Honoka, Eli, Nico or Chika with their respective sisters is rare as hell compared to Kurosawacest.

Suddenly a chapter from the Sunshine manga has been scanlated.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/love_live_sunshine_ch11

>>2327300
You is such cute girl, im still mad that she didnt win the chikabowl
I want her to find a beautiful gf soon

>>2327244
I wish there was some work on Saint Snowcest

>>2327244
I'm all for incest, and pairing together Ruby and Dia is fine with me.

They're just, by and large, my least favorite Aquors members. Neither appeal to me at all, and they weren't all that interesting to watch.

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>>2327300
>Riko grabs Chika's arm and rubs it against her chest
>Chika gets happy about it

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>>2327477
Well at least the manga goes to show that Chika, Kanan, and You also knew Ruby and Hanamaru(?) when they were children.

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>>2327479
And manga!You apparently still has a ladyboner for Chika

>>2323329
I agree. I honestly think that Love Novels is better than Buy Your Love and After School Troublemakers. It's not like jstonedd is going to recieve a reward for being #1 and #2, so I don't care that much.

>>2326500
I can't say that I HATE them right now, but I don't like them either. I feel kind of bad because they're good, but after what happened with µ's, it's impossible for me to like them or support them. More over, their fandom is pretty awful sometimes IMO. They go crazy about anything and if you say you don't like Aqours they put you in the "hater side" automatically. Please chill, it's only a group.

^ Sorry about those good fans that respect other opinions even if it's pure hate toward Aqours.

>>2327663
>after what happened with µ's
What did happen with them, aside from a good run of five years?

>>2327683
They disbanded after six years and as time went by they're (naturally) being replaced by Aqours. The "Hey, don't be sad! We're here and we're funny!" didn't work for me.

I wish Love Live would be like Idolm@ster. There's no end to any of their groups; they coexist and give concerts together after +10 years.

>>2327691
I'm actually glad that Muse came to a natural end, I think it was to the series benefit. It was just kinda awkward because of how fast the transition was made to Aqours and the fact that the anime then heavily references Muse for 3/4 of the series, to the point that they collectively become the proxy MC.

>>2327691
They had a good run and stopped at the top of their game. You couldn't ask for a better end than that.

>>2327683
>>2327691
>>2327728
>>2327746
While µ's did have a good run and they achieved very much not just in terms of anisong (and some might say within the music industry, even) but also in terms of the impact they left, the way things were and are managed could have been handled far better.

The show where the "final" announcements was made had been promoted in a way which gave off the impression there was something to commemorate or celebrate, or at least some manner of good news, because it occupied a primetime slot. Instead the fanbase was given a rude shock, first when the video was leaked, and again when it actually aired and eliminated whatever doubt remained. Then MOMENT RING had no animated PV (but perhaps the choreography for it made up for that). The Final Live had essentially the same setlist for both days when people had come to expect different setlists because of the 4th and 5th lives, and that had to be explained away by members while in their own capacity rather than during LL-related appearances. There are still the solo boxes, RinPana SID, Kotori/Honoka SID, etc which were promised, yet we still haven't seen hide nor hair for those.

All in all, it's hard to feel sympathy for the management that, after having milked their cash cow to nearly the end of its capacity, didn't let µ's receive the respect and dignity they deserved. The members didn't even have any remaining platforms to discuss the Final Live after it was over, because by then the plugs were pulled on Radio Garden and NicoRinPana, and they had no opportunity to talking about it on livestream as a group like they used to. Instead, they were left to do so on their own separate shows. 30 June should have been the anniversary of the series as a whole, but even that is now set aside in favor of calling it Aqours' anniversary.

(continuing from >>2327841)

Not that Aqours haven't come far themselves, and it is significant that they have tried to differentiate themselves from µ's while also being in admiration of µ's. But there are signs which imply a certain degree of restriction has been placed on them as well: letters mentioning µ's might be read or discussed but their responses to the letters often conveniently do not touch on the parts asking about µ's, Suwawa was quick to delete her tweet posted when µ's appeared on Kouhaku, members of both groups do not interact at all publicly whenever Aqours members are in their capacity as the cast of LLSS (some Aqours members have been cast in roles opposite µ's members and have no such issue talking to them when promoting those shows/material).

It also bears mentioning that Kisara, the Lantis producer who was µ's' handler, has no involvement with LLSS at all.

>>2327846
What kind of role did Kisara occupy as " µ's' handler"?

One thing that certainly bugged me, though I think it's more a coincidence than anything else, is the loss of the original animation director.

Like, one of the very noticeable things about LLSS is the fact that a lot of the scene compositions or "camera" angles or transitions just feel slightly off, like the show is being overseen by someone who has little experience and is trying, perhaps, to copy the stylings of the original director. Except, without knowing what drove the previous director to make those choices, a lot of stuff just falls flat.

>>2327728
I'm still trying to understand why they did an anime where the new group followed µ's steps for 12 episodes. Sunshine ended up remembering every episode that µ's was gone. That made me feel anxious.

>>2327746
They had a good ending in terms of fame, successes and love and support from the fans, but >>2327841

>>2327841
>>2327846
Thank you. Really, that's everything I was about to say.

The way the staff handled the µ's disband and the timing of Aqours was awful. Actually, the staff dind't handled anything, as you mentioned. They did like nothing happened with µ's and just moved on to promote Aqours. And the main reason why Aqours got hate in the first place wasn't because they're bad, because they're the replacement of µ's or because µ's diehard fans are delusional and can't get over their disband; it's because they came at the wrong time.

> 30 June should have been the anniversary of the series as a whole, but even that is now set aside in favor of calling it Aqours' anniversary.

I have a very good friend who loves Aqours. The day before they announced this, we met in person and talked about the group a lot. I told her that I wanted to support Aqours, but that I couldn't because "some things, like the timing". The next day the staff announced this project and she was the first to say that it was disrespectful and didn't like it. Even people that don't watch anime but somehow know about Love Live are surprised. µ's is over, okay, but at least respect the dates.

>>2328016
I can kind of understand why they'd want to encourage people onto the new product, rather than having to perpetuate µ's even after the core driving force has disbanded. But I guess that's the problem with putting business before community.

Like, you look at any big or popular franchise, like Madoka or K-ON, even if they haven't had a new sequel in 5 years, they remain popular with fans to continue to celebrate the legacy of the respective shows.

Also, as someone who only got into µ's as the movie was making its way across the sea, I can see why people would need time to move on. Like, it took me until recently to kinda get over that hump.

I think what really doesn't help is the fact that the LLSS anime exists to remind you of µ's and also that Aquors just don't feel as interesting.

I know a lot of people say we need to wait until S2 to really judge but as someone who is old, embittered and was cynical about LL prior to watching, I wouldn't have even made it to S2 of the original anime if the first season hadn't at least shown some kind of promise or value.

>>2327988
Kisara was involved with various aspects of the music production (including guidance for the members' singing), livestreams, and concerts. He first suggested that the cast and not just their characters perform live, for one, and where would the franchise be today without that? The members and even other people in the industry seem to consider him as the person who "brought µ's up," he has left guest messages to the members' own activities/events, once made a special appearance during Pile's birthday tour last year to bring the cake out to her onstage, and so on. He's basically their surrogate parent.

>>2328016
>>2328034
Though the cast has repeatedly, on different occasions, said that "µ's has not disbanded," the point remains when we are referring not to the group in real life but rather the characters they had portrayed.

By now, perhaps the best thing to have come out of the project is the bond it forged between the members, whether it be the 9 of them in real life, the 9 of them brought together by Honoka, or the 18 of them all together.

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https://twitter.com/amamitsuD/status/859647121087180801

ChikaDia dominance.

>>2328102
Oh, so he's like their Brian Epstein? I suppose that would be quite a loss. I mean, when you think about how few units most anisongs shift, getting µ's to the top of the charts multiple times is no small feat.

>>2327728
>and the fact that the anime then heavily references Muse for 3/4 of the series, to the point that they collectively become the proxy MC.
>>2328016
>I'm still trying to understand why they did an anime where the new group followed µ's steps for 12 episodes. Sunshine ended up remembering every episode that µ's was gone. That made me feel anxious.

This bothered me more and more as the series went on.

In the first few episodes, I thought it was a good thing - it was comforting to know that Sunrise didn't want people to forget about µ's (despite the way they treated things in real life, as has been discussed ITT). But as the series went on it became weirder and weirder, and much more unwanted.

I love µ's. I really do, and I don't think that'll ever change. But when Sunshine ended up not only bringing them up every episode, but also following them narratively and thematically (especially with stuff like 1 member causing drama because she can't be at the big show at the end, etc.) it felt more exploitative (of the fans' love for µ's) and lazy than it did like a big shout-out or something.

I think the tipping point for the µ's references was Ruby's episode, though. The fact that she and Hanamaru were directly compared to Rin/Hanayo (rather than maybe letting fans find the connection) and whatnot stood out like a sore thumb.

>>2328197
I've seen the points raised here mentioned elsewhere as well.

The techniques and plotlines used for season 1 of LLSS were not, on their own, bad, but the execution was terrible. The viewers already familiar with the original series would find them too similar with what they already knew. Those introduced to the project through the LLSS TV series, on the other hand, might be unable to form an attachment to some of the characters (remember how Kanan was practically invisible for more than half of the episodes?) because so much screentime was devoted to the second-years.

Perhaps a different writer entirely might have set a more unique tone than letting Hanada fart out his tired tropes all over again while disregarding characterization and a setting which were already established in other media.

>>2328197
I disagree. Those aren't just mindless comparisons done for the sake of fanservice, but thematic resonances. Hanamaru isn't actually much like Rin at all, but she finds her inspiring because neither of them is quite the traditional idol type (at least in their own opinion). This tells you a lot about what kind of a person Hanamaru is. Similarly, the way Chika and Riko handle their potential drama by talking about it highlights how good their relationship is when you remember how disastrously wrong things almost went with Honoka and Kotori.

>>2327691
Love Live is going through a weird moment, possibly similar to Aikatsu (inb4 HURR HET). The characters are still around in the arcade game, the game itself as well as continuing articles in Dengeki. Yet the RL group is inactive, they aren't releasing new songs and they are getting Aqours to promote the arcade game which remains the territory of µ's. They are there but at the same time they are not.

That's not even getting into the weird 'Aqours can't talk about their predecessor' rules.

I agree that they could have kept the group going like Im@s and say bugger what happened in the anime. Lord knows, they went about 3 years (2010-2013) without any character aging or changing. And we all know there are plenty of J-Pop groups at their peak and still ongoing.

As for Aqours, I don't hate them otherwise I'd have left the franchise by now but I will say I'm still ticked that Chika's character design was pretty much a redraw of Kasane and now mindless newfags will ask 'why does she look like Chika?'

>>2328233
You're right, but you're also wrong.

Sure, the conclusions to many of these issues was different than those from LL. And I'm certainly not going to sit here and say that Sunshine didn't have its own flavor and new scenes.

But you're still kind of wrong.
Hanamaru is not Rin. But the fact remains that their introductory arcs (friend of idol fan, self-esteem issues, eventual acceptance) were the same, and ended the same: both girls were idols.

It's the same with the Second Year Drama comparisons: the details are different, but the overall arc and the ending effect are the same.

Those aren't even the only similarities (and not to forget, but there were quite a number of straight up references and discussions in-show about µ's).
Off the top of my head:
>Yoshiko's similarity to Nico (eccentric, hides/runs from the group, disguises used if I remember right)
>Dia is almost literally Eli + Hanayo (and focused entirely on µ's)
>The Twins are a very obvious stand in for Tsubasa's group as the "already established rivals", while simply being meaner

And I'm positive there were a number of other direct scene/arc similarities I'm forgetting

tl';dr
Sunshine used the same arcs, scenes, and plotlines with different conclusions - different conclusions, of course, that all lead to more or less the same place as LL's first season.

I don't hate Aquors, but I find this lazy and badly executed. I hope S2 is much different.

>>2328259
There was also the fact that they went to the same beach as Muse and at the start of the episode, there's this weird protracted still of it (when, at that point in the episode, it has nothing to do with what's going on).

Like, the beach wasn't important so much as what happened there.

So it seemed kind of shit that Aquors didn't get have their own special place too. Like, I get that they want to insinuate that Aquors are the successors to Muse's mantle and that they are "special" even if they don't realise it but between the beach and the white feathers, they lay it on pretty thick.

the main thing I didn't like about sunshine was that they focused too much with the 2nd years, also I think they could've have dedicated maybe 3 or 4 episodes to all the µ's plot, this way we could've had more character development with the rest of the girls and in the upcoming 2nd season would have something new and fresh

>>2328259
Well, what were they supposed to do, make Hanamaru realize she isn't cut out for the school idol life and have Riko and Chika get into a huge fight that ends with the group breaking up? In a character-driven show like this, the details of the plot are less interesting than what they show about the characters. Here we find out that Hanamaru is perceptive and intelligent enough to realize how she and Rin are similar, even though one's a bookworm and the other's a jock. Chika shows how she's different from Honoka by being more thoughtful and attentive to her friends' needs so that these things get nipped in the bud and there's no need for airport dramatics.

As for the other similarities you mention, Dia trying to emulate Eli's coolness and failing is the joke, Yoshiko's similarities to Nico are superficial and Saint Snow are not so much a copy of A-Rise as they are a copy of every single rival team in tournament anime history. I'll grant that episode twelve is indefensible, though.

>>2328259
> I don't hate Aquors
But you don't like them enough to spell their name right, I see how it is.

Jokes aside, Saint Snow (who are not twins, btw, they are one year apart) need more development before they can be taken seriously as a rival. A-RISE were the winners of the first Love Live competition, Tsubasa gets to narrate a short story going into their background and what they do, they all have voiced lines in SIF, etc. Right now Saint Snow is at best a knockoff A-RISE whose main purpose was to show how much "better" other groups in the competition are.

On the topic of similarities and parallels, again, this could be blamed on Hanada. The LLSS characters all had some amount of existing development prior to the TV anime, but it was thrown out and caused them and the experiences they underwent to resemble, hamfistedly, µ's members and what they did/underwent.

>>2328274
>Here we find out that Hanamaru is perceptive and intelligent enough to realize how she and Rin are similar, even though one's a bookworm and the other's a jock.
>Chika shows how she's different from Honoka by being more thoughtful and attentive to her friends' needs
>Chika shows how she's different from Honoka by being more thoughtful and attentive to her friends' needs

I think this is where the problem lies, however - and where we're not seeing eye to eye. It's inevitable for anyone to draw these kinds of comparisons because Sunshine is so indebted to LL, for lack of a better term.

For example, it's not that I wanted things like Hanamaru not joining Aqours, or Riko and Chika to fight. What I wanted (and what I think many of us wanted) was for Sunshine to not follow such similar arcs and plotlines. They didn't have to have second year drama that is handled differently but still draws a ton of comparisons to LL's. They didn't have to have Hanamaru compare herself to Rin at all; Zura's characterization was doing enough without hammering in the Rin connection.

They didn't have to have the school closing plotline at goddamn all.

>>2328279
> They didn't have to have the school closing plotline at goddamn all
It's been a long time since that was brought up, but some pre-anime Dengeki G's articles had characters mention how Uranohoshi closing down is already a done and confirmed thing and they just want to leave their mark in the short time they have.

Which could have made a good premise setting Aqours apart from µ's, and yet the LLSS anime let it go to waste. With how things are playing out, Aqours probably will win at the Love Live and save their school like µ's did, but is the audience interested in seeing that repeated?

>>2328294
>With how things are playing out, Aqours probably will win at the Love Live and save their school like µ's did, but is the audience interested in seeing that repeated?
there were some speculations about aqours being disqualified because of chika, if they're indeed disqualified this will apply
>Which could have made a good premise setting Aqours apart from µ's

>>2328279
What would be the point of making the show under the Love Live banner if you you don't engage with the previous series? Stories like this will always involve problems with self-confidence and commitment to the group (there's a limited amount of possible plots in the genre, especially if you want to keep things innocent), so why not use the previous show like this?

I will particularly defend the second year story line as great writing. The Riko situation barely even counts as drama, since she and Chika handle it so well. The real drama starts in the next episode as a result of their solution and the closeness that allowed them to achieve it so painlessly. That episode also adds a new element to the series: intra-band jealousy.

As for the school closing, I'm still hoping that they fail in their quest, because there's no way that place can be economically feasible. Failing that, the scene where Chika finds out was hilarious.

https://exhentai.org/g/1058460/12dd547a49/

>>2328296
>What would be the point of making the show under the Love Live banner if you you don't engage with the previous series?
Because it's kind of lazy. To keep the show spiritually Love Live, all you need is 3 things.
>9 girl group
>Centered in/around/somewhat about a school
>A reference here or there to LL! (reference, not the same plotlines).
There are really a pretty large amount of plots and stories you can tell with that alone, and without abandoning the basis/foundation of what came before. I don't want to stir shit, but IM@S CG managed to do so (although, just as with LL, the 765 girls are still much more iconic and well loved).

Half the time I was watching Sunshine, it felt almost like the show was telling me to just go watch LL again.

>I will particularly defend the second year story line as great writing.
>That episode also adds a new element to the series: intra-band jealousy.
I'll give it to you that this was handled better than a lot of drama episodes might have been otherwise. I liked it.

>As for the school closing, I'm still hoping that they fail in their quest, because there's no way that place can be economically feasible. Failing that, the scene where Chika finds out was hilarious.
For better or worse there's no way they're going to fail. Although the reveal was funny.

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>It's another KananaHanamaru event

>>2328513
For worse.

Tokyo at least is a huge city. Uchiura is a small country town. What are they going to do? Try to reverse the economic pull of Tokyo?

>>2328540
>What are they going to do? Try to reverse the economic pull of Tokyo?

>Hey! Come to Uchiura! We have cute girls here who can sing and dance!

This is pretty much the plan, isn't it?

>>2328547
Those Cute Girls who sing and dance can't very well provide high paying jobs can they?

I suppose Mari and Dia could help but I can't imagine they can create 1000 managerial roles.

>>2328579
They can if they are employed by the state. Are there any series about Soviet or Cuban idols?

>>2328656
>Soviet idols
Eli, Anastasia over at iM@S

>>2328579
I think the goal is to target girls who'd normally go to high school in Numazu, like You and Yoshiko. I doubt you'd still get a huge amount of girls choosing a smaller, likely worse school that's farther away from home just because they have cute dancing girls.

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>>2328230
>>2328233
>>2328254
>>2328259
>>2328274
For me, the main problem wasn't about similar plotlines (which was annoying sometimes) or the same character issues (what anons metioned about Dia, Hanamaru or Ruby). What got on my nerves was the pic related: Episode 3 from both anime, the 2nd years give their first live. They used the same cameras, not only in this episode, but in several ones.

More over, I think the last two screenshots it's Aqours in a nutshell: They had a lot of support from the start, while µ's didn’t. In LL, only the rest of µ's and three students attended. In LLS, literally everyone showed up at the live, even with Dia's help at the end.

>>2328296
The 2nd years drama was well handled, but I disliked it at some point because You was my second favourite and it was unfair for her. The three of them ended happily together with the resolution, so I won't complain. I guess it was very positive for the doujinshi market as well, since a lot of doujinshi and fanfic came out thanks to that, and gained more /u/ popularity.

Now that you mention it >>2328269
Do you guys think µ's will appear in LLS S2? I don’t mean as a group or performing. When Aqours visited Kanda Myojin I thought for a moment that Nozomi would be there. And Nico wanted to be a professional idol after high school, so...

what would happen if Sunrise decides to bring µ's back to life?

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>>2328881
Zombie idols?

>>2328881
It just wouldn't work. I was in grief, but then I realized that they're all better off sticking far away from the pro idol biz.

>>2328881
> implying Sunrise has enough say to make such a decision
what part of "multimedia project" do you not get? hint: "multi" means something here.

>>2329030
that's quite an autistic rage there

>>2329030
Sunrise is just the animation studio. If they want to bring µ's back the one that has the say is the one that owns the Dengeki mag.

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>>2329034
Wouldn't that be Sakurako Kimino, since she's the one the handles all the writing in Dengeki G's Magazine?

>>2328034
>Also, as someone who only got into µ's as the movie was making its way across the sea, I can see why people would need time to move on. Like, it took me until recently to kinda get over that hump.
I know that feel, nee-san.

I didn't hop on the LL train until about a year, give or take, before they had their farewell concert.

It took a while to really get over it (I'm not really sure I have gotten over it) - being introduced to those 9 girls and all the fanfics/fanart/fan-communities and really getting into it just for them to be overshadowed and hastily replaced.

Not getting into LL earlier (purposely, because I'm an idiot who denied my idol-loving side in general for a long time) is definitely one of my bigger anime-related regrets.

>>2329047
Writing in, and owning the magazine, are two completely separate and unrelated things.

Point is, if all the different management/publishers/companies finally came to an agreement on bringing µ's to an end in-universe, then it's not going to be easy to reverse that decision by making them all agree to regroup µ's in-universe either.

>>2329176
I think Anon just wanted to see and hear the characters again.

>>2328871
>More over, I think the last two screenshots it's Aqours in a nutshell: They had a lot of support from the start, while µ's didn’t. In LL, only the rest of µ's and three students attended. In LLS, literally everyone showed up at the live, even with Dia's help at the end.

µ's gained internet stardom out of nowhere and fast after the first performance, so it's exactly true to say they didn't receive support.

Also, episode 3 in Sunshine was necessary to set up the reality check of episode eight, where Aqours' Tokyo performance bombed because no one cared and Chika realizes how badly she's been treating everything like a game.

>>2329951
>so it's not exactly true to say they didn't receive support.

Fuck me. Forgot a word.

>>2329951
This is a good point. As far as setbacks go, having ~10 people come to your first show is a lot less less humiliating than bombing on a big stage.

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You know, it makes zero sense for Kanan to think that Mari, the girl with her own helicopter, would ruin her own future by not studying abroad in high school. It makes even less sense for her to not keep in contact and then be stand-offish to her after she's returned from studying abroad. It's like Kanan thinks that being close to her is the real threat to Mari's future. What if they were dating back in their first year until something made Kanan terrified of how difficult things could be for Mari if she was with her?

>>2330468
>it makes zero sense for Kanan to think that Mari, the girl with her own helicopter, would ruin her own future by not studying abroad in high school.
If she use money to get what she want she would grow up to be a spoil brat.

>It makes even less sense for her to not keep in contact.
I think because she didn't want her to lose focus or something along those lines.

>Then be stand-offish to her after she's returned from studying abroad.
That because after spending all that time in US for school, Mari comes back still screaming about being an idol which makes the last two years seem like a waste.

>>2330729
Mari is a spoiled brat already, so that ship has sailed. Besides, attending a top high school and studying abroad both require money. She could just as well hire an excellent tutor and stay in Uranohoshi.

As for losing focus, why would that be something for Kanan to worry about, especially to such an extent that she'd refuse to be her friend anymore? Kanan herself lost a few months of school during her third year, yet she still spends time with friends and has hobbies.

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>>2330800
>Mari is a spoiled brat already
is she?
I don't remember her acting like a spoiled brat, or maybe you're saying that because of the helicopter stuff and the expensive ingredients she used back when she tried to cook
when someone says spoiled brat the first thing that comes to mind is a shitty kid trying to show off her wealth, Mari doesn't do that unless i'm missing something in the SIF stories and the manga

>>2330817
She's a lovable spoiled brat. She isn't rubbing her money in everyone's faces, but she does spend a lot and does stuff like make her family buy her the chairmanship at Uranohoshi.

>>2330820
>does stuff like make her family buy her the chairmanship at Uranohoshi.
she did that because she wanted to help her friends, gotta use all of your power/connections when it matters
I wish Mari was my suggar mommy

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>Maru knows about weird sex stuff solely from the works of Tanizaki Junichiro
This person should be the head writer for season two.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/today_my_little_demon_will_be_cleaning_my_ears

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What going on here?

>>2331180
Looks like impending rape to me.

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>>2331285
I bet Kanan would make a great dad.

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>>2331135
That whole thing was fantastic. I loved the little Tanizakki part too.

It could have all been slightly more romantic, but it's a great doujin nonetheless.

>>2328016
>And the main reason why Aqours got hate in the first place wasn't because they're bad, because they're the replacement of µ's or because µ's diehard fans are delusional and can't get over their disband; it's because they came at the wrong time.

I love Aquors but god I can't help but have mixed feelings towards them. It's not their fault, but it just hurts because the way everything was handled feels like we were all supposed to just forget µ's and move onto the new group when that just isn't going to happen for a lot of people.

Really, I don't know why they couldn't have just let the two coexist like >>2327691 was saying, the CG girls never faced the kind of backlash Aquors gets. Even if µ's was only still together in name and they don't put out anything significant for a good period of time, I'm sure people would have been far more understanding this way, but now there's a divide in the fandom.

>>2331325
>Really, I don't know why they couldn't have just let the two coexist


Money is the one doing the talking here and the suits probably thought that renegotiating µ's' contracts was not worth it. I mean, they probably got the 9 girls for cheap the first time, but when their contracts were up, cheap wasn't an option anymore.

We also don't know who decided to kill µ's. For all we know, either the girls or Bandai could have said "let's end this."

>>2331329
I think the girls discussed it at one point and agreed for disbandment.

Nanjolno talked about it in an interview (excerpt here) and also a bit about Aqours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6KhMdcq2nI

I'm not sure if it's entirely her own opinion or she's obligated to say it due to some hidden contract she signed, but it's a nice insight nonetheless.

>>2331347
Well, we will probably never know. To be honest, that sounded a bit scripted to me. Like your typical non-committal response.

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>>2331288

>>2331412
Lily White and Azalea are both their respective group's best sub-groups in terms of actual music quality and cute group interactions.

Prove me wrong. Protip: You might be able to

>>2331427
BiBi > lily white
their song are more catchy and the performance of psychic fire is good, the fans went crazy in the final live
but gotta admit that Otohime Haato de Rabu Kyuuden is a great song, my fav lily white song

>>2331427
All is but subjective tastes, nee-san. Music wise I prefer Guilty Kiss over AZALEA, but the latest subunit track preview might change my mind.

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>>2331288
I want Kanan to be my dad.

>>2331439
I don't really like BiBi's music. It just feels like utterly generic j-pop, while lily white has a really nice retro thing and Mimori Suzuko, whom I'd rank as the group's strongest singer. That said, Cutie Panther live is one of the franchise's highlights.

>>2331427
>Autotunezalea
>music quality

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I have no idea why they are doing this when they could very well have PDF it. With the fact that most people have some kind of internet-capable device they can then download it to their phone and read it when needed. But they insist, Team Onibe will print a few hundred phyical copies of a call and response in time for Aqours in Cali and they want donations.
https://twitter.com/teamonibe/status/860308358636503040

You can also donate here towards the flowerstand.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yXnFOig69dj9t_W1ahMbywuYbnDHrO66AmazB34-6r8/edit#gid=0

A Message Book is being organised again. Write your message here
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1qhgJX0LIpvUe75Qay3PDbI2tKgiMsRL_wlWSyzmrrHU/viewform?edit_requested=true

Tickets to the AX event now on sale.
https://www.showclix.com/event/awm-concert-june30

>>2331285
Which raibus would have/want kids?

>>2331455
>Music wise I prefer Guilty Kiss over AZALEA

Seconded. Strawberry Trapper is my fave thing I've heard from Aqours

>>2331439
Bibi is a very close second for me, after Lily White. The Maki/Nico/Eli trio works well, and their songs are high energy, somewhat "darker", and generally a little sexier too.

>>2331455
I thought I'd like Guilty Kiss more, but they really haven't caught me at all. It's a real shame

>>2331427
I like Azalea for the Perfume-like elecetro pop. Don't hate GK either. I just know that I'll listen to Hanamaru's solo mix for eternity once it drops.

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>>2331734
Nico will want the kind of big family she had growing up, while Nozomi'll want the close family she never did have. Maki and Eli are pretty family-centric too, so there won't be any disagreement. Hanayo would probably like being a mom too and Umi will need someone to pass the dojo to. Honoka'll impregnate countless girls with her stamen and disappear.

I don't really know about Aqours. They all seem like such babies.

>>2331803
>Honoka'll impregnate countless girls with her stamen and disappear.
that would explain the hobo honoka

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>>2331941
I don't see how Hobo Honks is a thing. Look at her, she is well dressed, well-kept long hair, a nice cap and even a jewel pendant to boot.

She looks like she has someone to take care of her( or more likely her OT3) and give her some loving at home.

>>2332055
being the wife of tsubasa must be good

>>2332055
Please, Honoka is a strong independent transient who supports herself with her own work of seducing bored rich housewives.

>>2332055
>Well dressed
I don't really know about that. She almost reminds me of some late 19th century Russian immigrant.

>>2332077
You mean a gypsy?

>>2332078
Honoka's too nice to be a gypsy.

Otherwise, yes.

>>2331803
Part of me feels like Nico would delaying on having kids because she's content with the intimate affection she gets from Maki, where as Nozomi would probably have kids in her late 20s.

In a way, it's kind of weird to think about Nozomi having kids though because she seems like the kind of person who would end up being some kind of female James Bond.

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>>2332077
So you're saying that Eli is her mistress/wife?

>>2332138
>tfw there's no HonkEli fanfic about them being Russian immigrants in the 19th century trying to make it in America through a song and dance show
Someone, get on this.

>>2332136
Nico and Maki are a lesbian power couple in the making, so obviously children are out of the question for a while.

>the kind of person who would end up being some kind of female James Bond.
I just kept waiting for the word 'villain' and it never came.

>>2332176
Heh. Non-tan has a heart of gold, senpai.

Though...I could get behind her filling the role of eccentric billionaire, Hank Scorpio.

>>2332176
>Nico and Maki are a lesbian power couple in the making, so obviously children are out of the question for a while.
>>2332136
>Part of me feels like Nico would delaying on having kids because she's content with the intimate affection she gets from Maki,

I can see where you nee-san are coming from, especially considering that both Nick and Mack have big dreams for their futures, but I think this anon >>2331803 is onto something.

Nico takes her family very seriously and loves them very much - it follows that she'd want children of her own when the time comes. Maki too is family oriented, but from the opposite angle; she respects her parents a lot and would probably appreciate being in their position.

I don't think they'd be having kids right out the gate once Maki finished high school, but I also don't necessarily think they'd wait forever.

>>2332202
>Heh.
>...
Don't do this

>>2332220
I just don't see them having time for kids until they're in their thirties. They'll just have to be cool big sisters to Nico's siblings until then.

>>2332227
Don't be an idiot.

>>2332330
Different anon.

Being on 4chan is not a free pass for embarrassing oneself. The only things that could have made >>2332202 worse is use of "uhhh" or emoticons. So who's the idiot here?

>>2332342
Hey, I don't like conveying amusement through text either but I was concerned anon would feel like I didn't appreciate their point if I wasn't phrasing my rebuttal in a light hearted manner.

Also, ellipses serve a functional role in writing, it's the abuse of, rather than presence, you should be concerned about.It's

>>2332330
>>2332349
>Don't be an idiot.
>Hey, I don't like conveying amusement through text either but I was concerned anon would feel like I didn't appreciate their point if I wasn't phrasing my rebuttal in a light hearted manner.

There are other ways to do that. This anon >>2332342 is correct. What separates us from a lot of sites is the posting styles and not using shitty, overly-conversational text is par for the course.

>>2332444
Being full of autists who derail threads over three letters isn't really a positive distinction.

>>2332446
You're not wrong, but I'd rather be autistic about it than let this kind of thing slip. It's not a large jump between "heh" to...every...like, post looking like uh this :/

>>2331325
>CG girls never faced the kind of backlash Aquors gets
You do realise that on a bad day, Idolm@ster devolves into another petty fight over CG v ML v OG?

There are Genwunners in every fandom. The only one that does not seem to have that problem is /ai/.

>>2332463
>There are Genwunners in every fandom.
I hate that this is an appropriate analogy, even though it is true.

It really is difficult for a series to get over the initial "product" that brought them fame and attention, because people are always going to feel the strongest towards what they had first. As someone who does think that both µ's and the 765 girls are their respective series' best groups, I can see the analogy well.

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Dia's face always annoyed me. It's too scrunched-up or something. Maybe she would look better with a darker eye color.

>>2331734
Dia would have to continue the Kurosawa bloodline while Chika and Riko would probably like a normal family with a decent amount of kids (not necessarily with each other). Kanan and You would choose the sea over having kids but they might settle down one day. Mari would be everyone's sugar mommy.

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>>2332520
Like the ancient pharaohs, the Kurosawa bloodline must be kept pure.

>>2331803
>Aqours

I could see Hanamaru, Kanan and Riko being good parents and wanting kids at some point. Dia will probably need an heir or something. Yoshiko probably wouldn't care but would be okay if her wife/gf wanted to. Plus she'd be gaining another little demon. Chika and You would probably be the same in that they wouldn't care unless they're partners wanted to. I have no idea about Mari. Ruby probably doesn't even know where babies come from.

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>>2332524
Dia will show her, like the loving oneesan she is.

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>>2332524
> Yoshiko probably wouldn't care but would be okay if her wife/gf wanted to. Plus she'd be gaining another little demon.
Just adding on to this: Yoshiko already gets along great with kids as a high schooler (perhaps as a parallel to Aikyan); she'll probably grow up to be the fun mom.

>>2331734
Obviously, all science babies or yuri magic babies.
>Chika
Grew up in a big family, so I think she'd like it
>You
Too suave. She'd probably spend most of her days going around in different guises and uniforms, having sex with girls up and down the Japanese coast
>Riko
She's caring, but I don't know if she's the mommy type - at least, not until she's accomplished things with her piano skills. Though, if she's with Chika, things might be different.
>Mari
Will spoil her child to no end. Will also probably have a kid who grows up to face all of Mari's "it's joke!"s and plans with a kind of "I'm over this shit"-ness
>Dia
See >>2332523. Incest heir, best heir.
>Kanan
She's more family oriented than some give her (taking off time to help her father and run the business), so it's definitely possible she'd want kids.
>Hanamaru
Absolutely. She's from a very traditional household; someone has to continue on with the shrine duties.
>Yoshiko
Doesn't necessarily seem to be mature enough to really handle kids, but give it a few years. Plus, the draw of having her own chuuni Little Demon kids would be too strong.
>Ruby
See Dia.

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>>2331327
I bet she would get upset at first when her kids call her outosan instead of kaa-san, even though she brings home the bacon, runs her own business, looks great in a suit, is handsome as fuck, swims and wrestles with the kids and is otherwise a cool dad in every way. Eventually she'll get used to it.

>>2332176
>I just kept waiting for the word 'villain' and it never came.

I kind of want someone to draw this now. With Nico as Bond, Eli as Nozomi's Russian henchman and Maki as the cute girl Nico gets to charm the pants off of.

>>2332820
And Principal Minami as M, Umi as Q and Hanayo as Moneypenny?

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>>2332784
I wish Kanan was my dad

>>2332843
idk, wouldn't Kotori be a better fit for Moneypenny?

>>2332784
If Kanan's with Mari, she will definitely not be the bacon bringer.

>>2332878
She'd fit in better with the others, but it's cuter to imagine Nico flirting with Hanayo.

>>2332890
I get you. Hanayo/Nico is an underrated pairing.

It's a shame there aren't more doujins like that one where they get together because Rin and Maki are going at it. That ended up being almost weirdly sweet at the end.

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I like to imagine that Kanan is sitting at the kitchen table drinking her morning coffee and reading the paper while Mari gets one child ready for school while feeding the other.
>Mari: "Oh my God! Kanan, I put my breast milk in your coffee by accident!"
>Kanan drinks it anyway like a boss
>Mari: "It's...joke?"

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>>2332908
>It's a shame there aren't more doujins like that one where they get together because Rin and Maki are going at it
I fucking hate that doujin, making hanayo sad should be a death penalty, and she wasnt the only who suffered, Nico also had it rough
>That ended up being almost weirdly sweet at the end
I would say that it was more bittersweet than anything

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>>2332890
She would still be a really cool dad despite not being the main income of the family.

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>>2332890
I can't imagine that she'd leave her family's dive shop just to stay at home all day and live off of Mari's cheese.

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>>2332914
Well, it is just a what-if scenario. Like, I think it makes you appreciate the happier stories more when you familiarise yourself with the more negative potential outcomes as well.

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Speaking of kids, Kougi is now shipping the science babies of ChikaRiko and YouYoshiko.

https://twitter.com/kougiw/status/862145753614909440

>>2333039
I have questions but I will refrain because this is adorable.

The drawing makes me think of Chika/Yoshiko though.

Can someone explain Honk/Tsubasa to me?

I might just be too much of a HonoKotoUmi fag but I really don't understand how Tsubasa and Honk makes more sense since the 3 compliment each other so well.

>>2333073
Something about their interaction in Season 2. I haven't watched it in a while so I forgot the details but I think Tsubasa paid more attention to Honk for a time. That and the fact their kind of rivals.

>>2333095
More like Tsubasa forgets to be Honk's rival because she's so busy praising and helping her.

>>2333115
Not quite. A-RISE reached their spot at the peak while in an extremely competitive environment, facing challenges not only from other schools' groups but also within UTX, their own school. While it's never spelt out as much, Tsubasa likely was honest and sincere when she went to Honoka and said she wanted to know just why µ's could defeat them.

Season 2 and the movie show that A-RISE are good sports, too. It isn't just Tsubasa, Erena and Anju both are depicted being supportive of µ's despite losing to them, which is a departure from the usual rival stereotype.

Given such circumstances, and with them being the leaders of their respective groups, Tsubasa and Honoka definitely have potential there, whether we choose to ship it or not.

>>2332910
I just keep having these visions of Kanan wearing a beer hat, trying to watch her Jacques Cousteau documentaries while the kids run around screaming.

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>>2333061
>The drawing makes me think of Chika/Yoshiko though.

I can see that. Kougi did draw a good ChikaYoshiko doujin.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/chikayoshi_manga

Here's the story where the science babies first appeared in. First page in the link.

https://twitter.com/kougiw/status/860531646893760512

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What if the girls would end having a family not with their first love (aka the major ships), but with someone of the same group that would eventually become the love of their life?
I can easily imagine this scenario only with Aqours though. With µ's is more difficult, I can't imagine Nozoeli or Nicomaki not being together anymore.

>>2333384
I can only see this happening only with, again, Kanan.

She just fits with everyone.

>>2333384
I can see You not forming a family with her first love.

How will the rest of Aqours react to finding out that Ruby and Dia's relationship goes beyond the sisterly?

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>>2333482

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>>2333482
You mean they aren't already necking in public? Dia has to do it to ensure that men stay away from Ruby.

Is there a name for the You x Rika ship?

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>>2332908
Nico's really shippable with everyone she's close to.

>>2332908
I think I remember reading that. Wasn't Hanayo totally dense about the fact that Nico actually liked her and then they sort of went back to their own things after Hanayo smoothed things out with Rin? Was there more after that or was that how it actually ended?

>>2334086
You nailed it. I really felt bad for Nico at the end.

>>2334095
Yeah, the ending really killed it for me. There were so many ways it could have ended better than "Turns out they were totally cool with me being the third wheel. Guess we don't need to hang out anymore, cya"

>>2334095
She can always become Nozomi's sex slave.

Time to talk about what the Sunshines are into in bed (or outside it, as the case may be).

>Ruby
Being eaten out slowly and deliberately after a bath where her partner washed her body and hair.

>Hanamaru
Reading the classics of erotic literature out loud as foreplay. In a more playful mood, high-tech sex toys.

>Yoshiko
Being in control, filming, making absolutely sure she isn't streaming it.

>Chika
Foodplay.

>Riko
Sex against a wall, obviously.

>You
Elaborate costumes.

>Kanan
Having sex outside.

>Mari
Trying out new things in general.

>Dia
Eating out her partner slowly and deliberately after a bath where she washed her body and hair.

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>>2334216
How about having sex outside in the water?

>>2333169
Someone needs to get into a drawfag thread and request Kanan dressed like Jacques Cousteau, or at the very least someone from "The Life Aquatic"