Mai HiME/Mai Otome Thread

File: IMG_1899.jpg (161KB, 531x768px) Image search: [Google]

161KB, 531x768px

>>2316083
No they will never do more than tease assuming they return to this franchise and assuming they don't make another shitty harem version.

Although they probably learned their lesson by now.

Natsuki and Shizuru are my personal favorites and despite Mai-Hime EXA essentially being Mai-Hime bad end I adore how Natsuki utterly stomped Mai without any special power ups or gimmicks.

>>2316083
>ShizNat spinoff
I can tell Sunrise creamed their pants of doing a spinoff of two gay characters.

OVA series or bust

Homophobic trash like Mai Hime having a yuri following is just sad. It's like if black people couldn't stop talking about how much they love The Birth of a Nation.

>>2316174
How is Mai Hime homophobic?

>>2316174
Uh.. yeah I agree with >>2316201 how is it?

Shizuru gets the girl, the various gayngst could be attributed to both Japanese culture and the Hime Star presumably affecting the Hime.

Further all the girls do horrible things to each other but forgive each other(for the most part) both in the end and during the OVA.

>>2316201
Don't reply to trolls. Report and ignore.

If anything Mai Hime/Otome is pretty progressive. It's main focus aint Yuri, but the lesbian gets the girl in the end.

>>2316201
Lesbian rapist stereotype.

>>2316208
>>2316212
She gets her in a fucking art book.

>>2316216
And? About 95 percent of rapes are caused by men in animes/vn's/manga's. Yuri Rape happens in yuri centeric shows, because the fandom would freak out if one the yuri girls was touched by a guy,

Lesser evil.

>>2316216
1. Still canon.

2.All the girls did horrible things to each other. It was meant as a dark deconstruction of the magical girl genre. I honestly lost count of all the attempted murder and outright murder that the girls either knowingly or unknowingly committed.

Knowing all this the girls forgave each other. Except Nao and Yukino and neither of them are saints.

Not this anon >>2316174

But Mai is pretty shitty honestly. It's a remnant left over from a period where yuri was so desperately sparse that beggars couldn't be choosers. >>2316212 It isn't really progressive for a show that is far more about girls fighting over shitty male MCs to have a small amount of yuri off in the background. And it's pretty silly to pretend the series "created /u/" in any meaningful way.

>>2316228
What created /u/ in your enlightened opinion?

>>2316228
>Male mc
Okay anon....

I liked the dark-skinned girl with the teal hair because that's a really fucked up combination.

>>2316228
They were only fighting over a guy in the first Mai Hime manga and in the Mai Otome manga.

In the anime most of the girls had their own relationships and considering Natsuki is a main character I'd hardly call her relationship with Shizuru background it just wasn't the focus until the second half.

I will concede it certainly shows it's age in terms of lesbian representation but that shouldn't diminish its role in the yuri zeitgeist.

Further a lot of us are old enough to remember when it was a big deal.

The other anon>>2316216 is either too young to remember or doesn't know how big of deal Mai Hime, Kannuzuki no Miko, or Revolutionary Girl Utena etc. were back then.

It's okay to fucking like them and the characters while acknowledging the flaws and being aware some things wouldn't fly these days. It's not rocket surgery geez.

This show gave birth to so much yuri content thanks to the popularity of ShizNat so it will always deserve a place on /u/.

>>2316083

Sexiest forearms ever.

File: mag_mo_49.jpg (551KB, 1940x1200px) Image search: [Google]

551KB, 1940x1200px

>>2316083
I think the Mai franchise is as dead as a doornail. Cross Ange is probably the closest we had to a successor and, well.

Still, like a lot of people ShizNat was part of my introduction to yuri and they gave me my OTP in Otome. Arika is still one of my favourite anime characters. I have a huge soft spot for Haruka/Yukino as well.

>>2316231
>in your enlightened opinion?
Really no reason to get all snarky.

Utena, Maria-sama, Shoujo sect. Sono Hanabira. Hell, I'd say Sailor Moon was more of a founding influence than any Mai series.

>>2316237
MC was probably the wrong choice of words. But I'm sure you still understood what was meant so it's fine.

>>2316247
I'm not saying you shouldn't like them. I'm saying let's not pretend the show was some yuri messiah or that the yuri in it was even particularly high quality. It was a nice surprise (by virtue of even being yuri at all) in an otherwise pretty bad set of series whose only real redeeming feature was a good ost. There's a place of appreciation between "I hate this" and "This show gave birth to so much yuri content thanks to the popularity of ShizNat so it will always deserve a place on /u/."

I just don't see a reason to give the series undue credit.

>>2316228
>a small amount of yuri
The show had 2 main protagonists, Mai and Natsuki. Mai's arc was about her choosing between 2 guys, while Natsuki's arc culminated with her and Shizuru.

There's also the blatant crush Yukino had on Haruka, and her reaction to Haruka's outburst when she found out Shizuru was gay.

In the end the yuri wasn't the focus of the story, but I wouldn't say it played a negligible role.

>>2316267
Shoujo Sect (Which is only known for the scene when the girl beats the rapist with a fire extinguisher) Sono (The game about pissing), Maria Sama (THE SHOW WITH NO CANON LESBIANS), and the show with the bislut.

Great job anon, you just revealed yourself to have shit tastes.

>>2316268
>Mai's arc was about her choosing between 2 guys
In an alternate universe OneeLoli won

>>2316267
>There's a place of appreciation between "I hate this" and "This show gave birth to so much yuri content thanks to the popularity of ShizNat so it will always deserve a place on /u/."
I'm not wrong on it giving birth to tons of actually good yuri content. Doujins, fanfic, fanart. It has more high quality stuff than a lot of other yuri shows.

>>2316283
Shows that give you what you want never actually create much fan content. Fan content comes from the void of not getting what you want.

>>2316267
>Sono Hanabira was more of a founding influence than any Mai series
>when Sonohana was created after /u/ was created

>>2316285
Dont listen to them. Next there going to call Simoun outdated, and "homophobic"

Mai series is a classic.

>>2316286
I do think Simoun has some issues with homosexuality, but whether they're a conscious reflection of Japanese attitudes towards sexuality or something that unconsciously made their way into the work I've yet to be able to make up my mind.

File: tumblr_on8t4dss7k1ra3h5lo1_r2_1280.png (602KB, 750x750px) Image search: [Google]

602KB, 750x750px

>>2316263
I agree, Mashiro/Arika eventually became my favorite part of Otome after a rewatch. I enjoyed the little bits of Chie/Aoi too.

>>2316278
Nowhere did I say that was a list of my favorite yuri shows. I'm just pointing out the more primary influences on yuri as a common genre, Mai isn't among them.

>>2316268
>Natsuki's arc culminated with her and Shizuru.
But that's the point, it culminated with it, it wasn't about it. It was such a side issue in the larger scheme of the show's plot. It's like saying Haruhi is a pillar of romance anime.

>>2316284
This to be honest.

>>2316285
>Sonohana was created after /u/ was created
So was Mai Hime, friend. Now which one has a perpetual thread and discussion on the board, and which one just gets casually brought up on occasion? Which has enough of a following to have continued to be fiscally viable as a yuri series?

>>2316286
>Not this anon >>2316174

>>2316284
It was a yuri plotline though. Not all yuri has to end with the two girls getting together. And it was a subplot to pretty much the second main character of the show. And is the only love interest shown for said character.

The show even spells out how much Shizuru matters to Natsuki when she summons Duran (who is now as big as Kiyohime) in the second to last ep. They may not be together but it's hinted that it may not take long for Shizuru to get what she wants post show.

>>2316296
I think you're responding to the wrong post.

File: 1491339694933.jpg (148KB, 773x576px) Image search: [Google]

148KB, 773x576px

>>2316278
>Shit taste.
Oh boy, I don't even know where to start. First Shoujo Sect is one of Ken Kurogane's best works and in 2008 was a pretty big deal. The three episode OVA is also considered on of the best yuri ovas simply because of how it handles the sex scenes right. Plus if you didn't like the ending of Momoko, Shinobu and Maya all together you have bad taste.
Second, Sono Hanabira is a long running game series and while it is abit samey there are different couples, age gap with teacher, sisters in another one. It's still a cornerstone of yuri.
Third, Sei is a canon lesbian. Shiori left for a convent which then lead her to choose Shimako as her Imouto. And honestly if you don't believe there's something between Yumi and Sachiko after all the time they've spent together or the fact Sachiko stays at the school to be close to Yumi, then you haven't experienced much yuri.

I knew 4/u/ had gone to shit but to think you'd prefer futa korean web comics over something that has yuri in it in Mai-HiME, it makes me sick.

>>2316321
>Third, Sei is a canon lesbian. Shiori left for a convent which then lead her to choose Shimako as her Imouto. And honestly if you don't believe there's something between Yumi and Sachiko after all the time they've spent together or the fact Sachiko stays at the school to be close to Yumi, then you haven't experienced much yuri.

Not to mention Rei and Yoshino are practically married, and the Lilian headmistress tried to commit suicide with her female lover during WW2 when she was a teenager and reunites with her in book 3.

File: [Coalgirls]_Mai_Hime_SP28_(1280x720_Blu-Ray_FLAC)_[5AC7EC79].mkv_snapshot_00.31_[2015.08.02_13.12.07].jpg (99KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

99KB, 1280x720px

>>2316279
>Mai's arc was about her choosing between 2 guys

Reito already won, Tate was the worse MC character unimaginable

New Mai Hime series when

File: IMG_1011.png (712KB, 800x690px) Image search: [Google]

712KB, 800x690px

There's a disturbing lack of gay in this thread.

>>2316393
Where do you think you are?

>>2316397
Natsuki pls leave

File: IMG_1904.jpg (247KB, 612x790px) Image search: [Google]

247KB, 612x790px

>>2316396

File: IMG_1905.gif (750KB, 600x617px) Image search: [Google]

750KB, 600x617px

>>2316401

File: IMG_1906.jpg (263KB, 707x1000px) Image search: [Google]

263KB, 707x1000px

>>2316402

File: IMG_1907.jpg (552KB, 1200x1698px) Image search: [Google]

552KB, 1200x1698px

>>2316403
I never knew I needed this.

>>2316403
Anyone else think she wanted to join in and have a threesome?

I feel a bit sorry for her.

File: IMG_1908.jpg (562KB, 1200x1698px) Image search: [Google]

562KB, 1200x1698px

>>2316404
Alternative version. Also never knew I needed this.

Mai HiME was okay. Sometimes there were moments with great build up but with no satisfying turn out. It wasn't yuri that's to be sure, but I do admire some moments like ShizNat.

My biggest gripe is the ending is one big ass pull. The story was interesting where the characters DIE after each battle, but then suddenly HiME EX MACHINA happened and EVERYONE were revived. Tears, pity, appreciation of those characters jumped out the window. I have no favorite character and Mai Otome (Zwei?) was okay from what I can remember.

>>2316083
>Also do you believe Sunrise will greenlit to work on more Mai-franchise projects like a ShizNat spinoff

They mentioned Shizuru's B-day last Dec. on twitter so we might have a hint on planning new Mai Hime stuff as expected

>>2316408
Did you read EXA? While it was nice to finally have a manga with a badass gay Natsuki they went with The everybody stays dead ending and it sucked.

>>2316413
No I haven't. I'm not really a fan of the HiME series overall.

Mai Hime EXA was an abortion of a manga

I kinda it was going to be a continuation retcon of Mai Hime manga

File: vlcsna32.jpg (83KB, 800x450px) Image search: [Google]

83KB, 800x450px

>>2316408
Can you stop bringing your avatarfagging in every thread you're in?

>>2316414
Sifr was the ever thing good coming out of Otome

File: IMG_1909.jpg (177KB, 800x1151px) Image search: [Google]

177KB, 800x1151px

>>2316414
What I think this anon>>2316415 was trying to say was that EXA was meant to be a closer adaptation of the anime than the original manga since the Otome manga was a continuation of the original Mai Hime manga and in my opinion both of those to use the other anon's term were abortions.

EXA focused more on Mai was a broad stroke summary of the second half of the anime. And while it should have been a short series rather than a single book and it had the aforementioned bad end it did give us a Natsuki who never lost a fight(granted she was only in two) and a Shizuru who was surprisingly intimidating.

File: 582018b07c5b7a8c305585062631ca8d.jpg (166KB, 550x680px) Image search: [Google]

166KB, 550x680px

>>2316401

File: 25605930.jpg (346KB, 584x800px) Image search: [Google]

346KB, 584x800px

>>2316422

File: 51018316_p1_master1200.jpg (152KB, 660x570px) Image search: [Google]

152KB, 660x570px

>>2316423

File: IMG_1910.jpg (265KB, 707x1023px) Image search: [Google]

265KB, 707x1023px

>>2316421

File: IMG_1911.jpg (252KB, 713x1119px) Image search: [Google]

252KB, 713x1119px

>>2316425

File: __fujino_shizuru_and_kuga_natsuki_my_hime_drawn_by_sanshita__b356e49ae3cb4440271d513bb67d3f97.jpg (46KB, 512x384px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 512x384px

>>2316424

File: __fujino_shizuru_and_kuga_natsuki_my_hime_drawn_by_ikeda_cpt__101daf4047e02d0d0559101ab9a0d363.gif (40KB, 391x550px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 391x550px

>>2316437

Exa was terrible. I can't believe I dug that shit up and read it.

File: IMG_1912.jpg (356KB, 848x1200px) Image search: [Google]

356KB, 848x1200px

>>2316444
Still better than the original manga and leagues above the Otome manga.

>>2316445
>Korra
>Not Chikane/Himeko
For fucks sake.

>>2316393
You know I meant Mai/Mikoto, right?

>>2316471
If by threesome you mean Mai/Mikoto/Shizuru especially since canonically Shizuru has probably did more than either Reito or Tate.

That one drama cd that reveals that Shizuru works at a lingerie shop...

>>2316393
>>2316471
>Posting pics containing a guy
Pls fuck off.

File: 41648445_big_p0.jpg (131KB, 800x450px) Image search: [Google]

131KB, 800x450px

>>2316522

File: 41648445_p1.jpg (139KB, 800x450px) Image search: [Google]

139KB, 800x450px

>>2316654

>>2316174
>>>/tumblr/

File: 41534745_p0.jpg (163KB, 999x883px) Image search: [Google]

163KB, 999x883px

>>2316654

File: 32268658.jpg (240KB, 456x700px) Image search: [Google]

240KB, 456x700px

>>2316703

File: 9ceeb7392c7c613134c52a5f2cf1dc0c.jpg (296KB, 1102x1503px) Image search: [Google]

296KB, 1102x1503px

>>2316708

File: IMG_0351.jpg (81KB, 442x823px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 442x823px

So /u/, who do you think is the sub between ShizNat?

File: animep29.jpg (196KB, 800x794px) Image search: [Google]

196KB, 800x794px

>>2316769
NatNao, MaiNat or YukHaru are the best subs

>>2316778
Are we even talking about the same subject...?
if we are talking about less popular couples then MaiNat or ShizNao all the way

File: 181504.jpg (497KB, 1993x1600px) Image search: [Google]

497KB, 1993x1600px

>>2316786
I'm talking about better choices. MaiNao would been another good choice for heavy character interaction

I forgot the what was HiME/Otome popularity Sunrise did a couple years ago. Shizuru was at the top I remember but don't know the others

>>2316786
>ShizNao
Patrician taste.

>>2316769
I can only stomach ShizNat, not NatShiz.

File: 2b8e15403b87fdf8fd576a622627cea2eaa73ec4.jpg (134KB, 600x482px) Image search: [Google]

134KB, 600x482px

>>2316792
>ShizNao
>Patrician taste.
>not HaruShiz

>>2316789
Frankly speaking, Shizuru's popularity contributed a lot to ShizNat' fame as a whole not to say that ShizNat wasn't and isn't a legend but still, other options like HaruKino, NatNao (which I am partial to) or MaiMikoto got overshadowed so much.
>>2316792
It bothers me a lot whenever I see arts or fics depicting Natsu as the dom one, so naturally I hardly stomachs most of the recent fics and arts.
maybe my thinking is outdated regarding this subject, oh well

>>2316802
Have you read Windows of the Soul fanfic? It feels like fanfic kinda stayed true to anime somehow. Natsuki continuation as a character.

>>2316808
That one was the second thing I read after finishing watching Mai-HiME the first time the first thing I read was Giving In, that 4-chapter smut fic
I'm forever salty about Siren of the Sea.

>>2316802
>It bothers me a lot whenever I see arts or fics depicting Natsu as the dom one
I do believe that Natsuki can be and will be the dom in their pairing. Because the anime has shown that Natsuki has the character of a leader. And there was scene where Shizuru was sleeping and obviously dreamed of what Natsuki was doing to her which shows that Shizuru isn't that ultimate dom that most writers try to portray her as. Shizuru is just the most popular characters.

File: 58463002_p0.png (2MB, 1024x1193px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1024x1193px

>>2316769
Definitely Natsuki. Shizuru has control of the conversation whenever they’re together and easily able to tease Natsuki into an embarrassed mess. Natsuki is also secretly a girly girl inside.

Shizuru dominates the relationship so much it can be appealing to see the roles reversed and is probably the main reason to see NatShiz. This can be nice but I’ll always prefer Shizuru in charge.

>>2316835
I think the same happened with Korra and Assami, due to the unpopularity of Korra as a character, but the popularity of the pair itself, Korra in most cases is portrayed as sub

>>2316839
Me thinks Shizuru enjoys when Natsuki takes the lead *recalls Shizuru's moan -Ikezu- in her sleep at pantsu episode* Their relationship grew and changed as well as Natsuki's behavior grew and changed, starting at Natsuki no Prelude to the last Mai HiME episode. Over time their balance of power was becoming more balanced.
At first Shizuru was always the pursuer because Natsuki didn't give her much attention, if Shizuru did not initiate it. But if we look closer we can tell that Shizuru wants Natsuki to pay attention to her and initiate physical contact (Natsuki only gave her a quick kiss at 25 episode, and Shizuru was blushing and obedient) Though I'm Shizuru's fan most of all but ultimately I do not believe that Natsuki makes the perfect uke-material, in all honesty. Natsuki is someone very forward when she decided on what she wants. Initially revenge was all she wanted, love was out of the questions. But when her gaze direction will switch to love? Beware, Shizuru. At the very least, it's my impression of Natsuki.

File: 55539762_p0.png (3MB, 2480x3507px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 2480x3507px

>>2316083
Have the Muse seiyuu join in the new Mai Hime series and see the money roll like never before

>>2316835
I agree, while I personally prefer Shiz as the top the Mai-HiME anime gave us indications that it was the opposite. And then we had the Mai-Otome which in itself was a can of problems I don't want to unearth.
>>2316839
If the author writes something similar to >>2316845 then yes, top!Natsu for life. Otherwise, I prefer top!Shiz in most cases partly because of Natsuki's character theme song, which is girly af and totally teeth-rotten sweet

>>2316814
>I'm forever salty about Siren of the Sea.
How salty is the fanfic anyway?

>>2316890
>partly because of Natsuki's character theme song, which is girly af and totally teeth-rotten sweet
Natsuki actually has two theme songs and one of them isn't girly

>>2316901
>>2316890
If someone is interested, here is the translation of Natsuki's main theme song https://etherpad.net/p/Natsuki_song

File: 45378368_p13_master1200.jpg (111KB, 495x700px) Image search: [Google]

111KB, 495x700px

>>2316845
I may have stated it too strongly and given the impression but I don’t think Natsuki makes the “perfect uke”. You’re right that Natsuki is forward when she knows what she wants. She’s also quite dense so it's going to take a while. Natsuki will likely have to initiate the relationship as Shizuru will probably be reluctant after what she did during the carnival.

I just think Shizuru will usually be in charge.

>>2316890
If Natuki’s childhood hadn’t been ruined by the Hime stuff I think we would see a very girly Natsuki. The special episodes also show her hidden side as well (she likes fluffy stuffed animals and pink dresses) and just how much she has changed by the end of the anime.

>>2316905
>She’s also quite dense so it's going to take a while.
recently rewatched this anime and I don't think she is dense at all, it's just MaiHime fandom created this stupid image of Natsuki and over the years cemented in the minds of fans this image.

>>2316890
>while I personally prefer Shiz as the top the Mai-HiME anime gave us indications that it was the opposite.
I agree with you. In Mai-Hime it was clearly evident Natsuki isn't submissive by character and she is leader as was mentioned.

>>2316900
I prefer the girly song because of one reason only: Chiba Saeko's voice, but I do have the other (more aggressive) song on my phone so it does count, right?
>>2316905
Whenever it's HiME, Otome or Destiny we weren't able to see a less-than-serious Natsuki, and unless Sunrise decides to revive the franchise we'll never see whenever Natsuki had loosen up after every fucked up things that happened.

File: ShizuNatsu.png (293KB, 500x708px) Image search: [Google]

293KB, 500x708px

>>2316917
You're right, she isn't dense. What I meant is that she is out of touch with her feelings.

Wait, shit I reply to the wrong post, >>2316919 was supposed to be a reply for >>2316901
>>2316900
The author stopped updating right at the fun part (a very universal experience, I know) and I know he/she is still active so...
But I'm going to sulk in a corner and not bothering the author on their Facebook just for an update.

File: AwfBkyZF-34.jpg (29KB, 604x453px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 604x453px

>>2316769
I know I will be in the minority, but personally, I prefer Natsuki as a dom and I think it will not be out of character at all

>>2316841
Yeah that's what probably happened with Natsuki and Shizuru, because of Shizuru being the much more popular out of the two, people want their fav char be the top in everything

File: 32696647_p0.jpg (2MB, 540x1539px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 540x1539px

I’ve always been disappointed that there are pretty much no fanfics that change how the carnival went down (there’s so much new AU stuff). I remember one author was thinking of writing a fic where Shizuru and Natsuki realized their feelings much earlier and teamed up for the carnival. Nothing came from it but it would've been interesting at least

>>2316919
>I prefer the girly song because of one reason only: Chiba Saeko's voice, but I do have the other (more aggressive) song on my phone so it does count, right?
I understand you. I also like her voice a lot

>>2316919
>unless Sunrise decides to revive the franchise
No, did we learn anything for EXA. A reboot would do nothing to for the franchise. I would just give a sequel on how the HiME's lives nothing changed that would lead to a darker and dangerous life ahead.

File: 7a8f5510.jpg (184KB, 600x850px) Image search: [Google]

184KB, 600x850px

>>2316835
>I do believe that Natsuki can be and will be the dom in their pairing. Because the anime has shown that Natsuki has the character of a leader. And there was scene where Shizuru was sleeping and obviously dreamed of what Natsuki was doing to her
If Shizuru writes her wet dream

>>2316951
The problem with ShizNat in the Carnival is that no matter how you spin it - it always ends the same way.

Otome>Hime

>>2317040
My taste>Your taste

>>2316841
I don't think it has anything to do with popularity. People just tend to draw whoever was the one chasing the other as the top. In Mai Hime it's Shizuru, in LoK it's Asami (Korra is pretty withdrawn after the trauma she suffered in S3 and it's Asami who tries to stay in touch and spend time with her).

>>2316960
This, Reboots are fucking terrible

>>2317042
This I'll take unhinged hydra summoning lesbian over one girl with daddy issues and another with baby issues.

>>2316960
No that sounds stupid too.

What we need is that movie that was teased on the dvds and have it have copious amounts of take that's at the Otome and Hime manga.

>>2317167
>baby issues
Huh?

File: IMG_1919.jpg (90KB, 720x480px) Image search: [Google]

90KB, 720x480px

>>2317184
Tomoe.

>>2316841
>I think the same happened with Korra and Assami, due to the unpopularity of Korra as a character, but the popularity of the pair itself, Korra in most cases is portrayed as sub
Asami's not a character though, just a cardboard love interest. The reason Korra is portrayed as a sub results from how she gets beaten up and gets slapped back down when she tries to assert herself. The example doesn't hold in this case.

>>2317167
>No that sounds stupid too.
Hime and Otome connection sounds more stupid than to have a HiME continuation project.

So one of three prots is a lesbian? Is there many lesbian side character"

>>2317359
I assume English isn't your first language? It's fine but excuse me if I misinterpret anything.

They tried the connecting Hime and Otome in the Otome manga and while it was somewhat of a novelty seeing dark Hime fight the Otome it was ultimately just a prop to show how much more powerful MANshiro was compared to everyone else. Especially when he one shots Dark Kagutsuchi.

I stand by Sunrise making that Mai Hime movie they teased as an anniversary project but with copious amounts of shiznat.

>>2317361
There's Shizuru x Natsuki which is canon art books and drama cds go into their relationship further. Some of if not all of the drama cds should be on YouTube unless they were taken down because YouTube.

In one of them Shizuru also gropes Mai. It's heavily implied Yukino is gay as well.

And feel free to interpret Mikoto's feelings for Mai as romantic.

>>2317375
No, but lemme break it down to you. I would rather have a full Hime sequel will no connection to Otome. I do love Otome but don't get me started on fans taking the HiME/Otome connection as canon very seriously. Sifr/Zwei made it kinda interesting on how aliens play a role with Otome technology.

As for the anniversary project Sunrise just needs to do a new series with new characters. Muse seiyuu are the best choices to work with in doing anime drama and suspense.

File: IMG_1922.jpg (188KB, 1280x1440px) Image search: [Google]

188KB, 1280x1440px

>>2317388
I hear but I'm still salty this never happened.

File: shizurudestiny.jpg (193KB, 450x630px) Image search: [Google]

193KB, 450x630px

A anime adaptation of My hime : Destiny was in the works.
Shizuru is badass with her katana and the last pages of the novel explicit clearly her romantic relationship with Natsuki who reciprocate her feelings.

Sadly, it never become an anime.

>>2317471
Destiny should have been an OVA series. Maybe there's hope Studio 8 will come back to work on a new Mai-series after LL Sunshine S2 this fall.

It's OVA series or nothing

>>2317402
>that trailer

What was Sunrise thinking of doing this, thats the exact reason why fans still today clamoring a new Mai Hime series and movie.

>>2317212
Tell me /u/, did Shizuru really cheat on Natsuki with Tomoe? I still remember the disappointment/rage back in the days when I first watched this scene.

>>2317763
She did, because obviously all lesbians are promiscuous and can't commit to a single partner. Just another reason this show is actually ridiculously homophobic and should be left in yuri's past where it belongs.

>>2317767
Aww the little loser is back.

>>2317763
I interpreted it as yes, she did, but only so she could earn Tomoe's trust and get her to let her guard down enough so that Shizuru could escape captivity.

Shizuru may be a flirt, but she never had any real feelings for Tomoe and was only manipulating her, to teach her a lesson about Tomoe's own nature. She's still loyal to Natsuki.

File: Fujino.Shizuru.full.1354838.jpg (746KB, 900x1100px) Image search: [Google]

746KB, 900x1100px

>>2317768
I want to be the loser who's getting pegged by a dominant beautiful Kyoto-tan lesbian like Shizuru

>>2317767
So you are basically saying that heterosexual people can get away with them being assholes, but all gay people should be saints just so homophobes won't blame the bad behavior on their sexuality.
If all Yuri worked like this, we would have boring one dimensional Moe stories only.
Don't try to write anything, it will suck.

>>2317212
Nina and Tomoe seem like really odd characters to highlight together. Erstin and Tomoe, maybe.

>>2317769
Tomoe also basically coerced her into it by dangling Natsuki's safety in her face. Shizuru didn't know Natsuki had escaped. In fact those scenes are some of the only ones in the show that imply that Natsuki and Shizuru have any relationship closer than just work colleagues.

Why MH thread is created? Is there anything new about anime or whatever, or just anon wanting to talk about it?

>>2317767
Wow, seriously did you just write that with your own brain power?

>>2317767
Genius this>>2317769. Shizuru was a prisoner of war and if I remember correctly de powered due to plot shenanigans.

Hell Shizuru let herself get captured so Natsuki could escape, since Natsuki is the leader of Gardrobe she was a higher priority target and couldn't be captured.

Get that weak shit of yours out of here. Criticizing something is fine but make sure you actually know what you're talking about.

Yes, she did. And Natsuki needed to punish her after that.

>>2317783
>In fact those scenes are some of the only ones in the show that imply that Natsuki and Shizuru have any relationship closer than just work colleagues.
Honestly I found the anime boring. It felt like they toned down the shiznat a lot, so people would only watch it because they were waiting for something between them to happen.

>>2317790
Yeah, I remember watching it for ShizNat after watching Hime and reading a bunch of fic and being utterly disappointed. Thankfully I also loved Arika and therefore most of her storyline miss me with that Sergei shit, but most people don't seem to.

File: IMG_1924.jpg (42KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 640x480px

>>2317788
To compound on this if there's anything that deserves ire it's the manga of both series.

I could write entire salty Tumblrina essays on why they're horrible atrocities to the eyes but here is neither the time or the place. Admittedly it's a pity the art has otherwise grown on me.

File: 1460509884010.jpg (501KB, 640x1454px) Image search: [Google]

501KB, 640x1454px

>>2317785
>Why MH thread is created? Is there anything new about anime or whatever

It's both but there's hasn't been any news of a new anime right now because Studio 8 is lazy as fuck and probably holding Sunrise studio hostage because of LoveLive success. It's a 50/50 chance of Sunrise ever planning to make a new Mai Hime series or movie in the near future and since yuri has getting big right now, it's a huge opportunity the Mai series a make a sudden return after LL Sunshine S2 ends.

>>2317769
>Shizuru may be a flirt, but she never had any real feelings for Tomoe and was only manipulating her
I think it was a shitty writing.

They try to show that Shizuru supposed to be smart and shrewd. But perfectly knowing Tomoe's nature, she did not suspect at first that Tomoe was deceiving her, and slept with her, most likely not just once. And she should have know that Tomoe did not have such a high post that she could help release Natsuki from prison.

If Shizuru were truly such a good manipulator, writers could have shown how she tricked her without stooping to Tomoe's level, and not the idiocy that we were shown.

So shitty writing.

>>2317842
I honestly think they just added that Tomoe scene for kinkfags. Because Tomoes request of baby roleplaying was bizzare

>>2317815
Do you base that on any facts or just assuming based on Yuri being on rise right now?

>>2317871
I would just say matter of assumption because I do see yuri on huge rise due idol popularity and other contributing factors with fujo women loving female yuri characters.

File: sample-9f0d65870ffcb5be20118a429521acab.jpg (97KB, 850x383px) Image search: [Google]

97KB, 850x383px

>>2317783
>some of the only [scenes] in the show that imply that Natsuki and Shizuru have any relationship closer than just work colleagues
Well, there was this, too
(I agree with your point, btw)

File: shizutomo_echa.gif (36KB, 621x584px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 621x584px

>>2317868
that seems like the only valid explanation... I like Tomoe (blame her delicious voice), but she's fucked up, honestly

>>2317898
I did say some. I was thinking of that very scene as one of the others. Then I think there's one or two others where Natsuki stands around saying "Shizuru..." in a sad voice or looking pensive about her or some shit.

>>2317868
Maybe, but I don't really like Mai-Otome because of this unnecessary 'kinks' that spoil the characters that fans had grown fond of from the previous series and because plot is shit and also there weren't even one interesting character for my taste.

Mai-Hime wasn't all that great plot-wise but the characters were really great.

File: 1389241335800.jpg (146KB, 400x600px) Image search: [Google]

146KB, 400x600px

What does /u/ think about Shiho-chan

There is a Fanfic Crossover with Hell Girl with Shizuru...
I only look for hate on the matter, personally it seems a stupid concept and these people deserved to die

File: a571b4f2f96259938c23fc138c1ab189.png (423KB, 720x540px) Image search: [Google]

423KB, 720x540px

>>2317924
Windows of the Soul will always be the Mai Hime GOAT fanfic

Sunrise could really adapt well into this fanfic

File: 409369_p0.jpg (238KB, 864x1118px) Image search: [Google]

238KB, 864x1118px

>>2317928

File: 241c30bafae462002c96882944b32b46f32750ec.png (448KB, 585x768px) Image search: [Google]

448KB, 585x768px

>>2317930

>>2317928
I dunno about that because I think the writer, before writing this story, did not watch Mai-Hime for a long time or (s)he had not particularly closely watched the anime. Since I remember (s)he wrote in the first chapters that Natsuki has blue eyes and instead of Mikoto the writer called her Makoto, until someone told him in a review that Natsuki has green eyes and it's Mikoto.

>>2317928
I think Windows of the Soul is terrible, honestly... It's about 300k words too long and is full of grammatical errors and bad purple prose.

In my opinion the best Mai Hime fanfic is EMDN.

>>2317939
Not that anon, but author is a he. Windows of the Soul is also the epitome of Mai Hime fanfic for me. An unofficial sequel with extremely in-character depictions and tasteful development. I think I loved the Antidote series too, but the author had pulled it off the net and I had forgotten everything about it.

Of course there are other masterpieces such as Inter Nos, Whisper from the Forest, Monster, etc but they are AU with varying degrees of (sensible) OOC.

>>2317953
>An unofficial sequel with extremely in-character depictions and tasteful development.
I can't agree, I didn't think it was in-character at all to be honest. I like "Something Beyond The Heart" by hyenagal, it isn't popular but I think it is pretty great fanfic

>>2316083
I like the most J. Peterson works like The Morning After the Night Before, Gib Mir Noch Zeit and Glimpse

Her fics is the epitome of Mai Hime fanfic for me. And she kept characters, well, in-caracter. imo

File: 56583361_p2_master1200.jpg (382KB, 684x500px) Image search: [Google]

382KB, 684x500px

New Mai Hime project when Sunrise

>>2317911
Hime Shizuru is an unapologetic pervert too, you do realise? If Natsuki were into diapers she would totally be all over that shit. And she did fuck Tomoe out of love for Natsuki.

Plus, Hime had its retarded fanservice moments too and that shit is a huge part of what I love about anime in the first place. It rarely takes itself too seriously.

>>2318024
>Hime Shizuru is an unapologetic pervert too, you do realise?
No, I don't. Hime Shizuru was interesting character and her actions were pretty human, given their situation. And she regretted her actions too.

I must also say that I'm not from a team that believes that Shizuru raped Natsuki, because to rape unresponsive and dry girl by other girl, it is not a pleasurable activity. And those who read Natsuki No Prelude know that Natsuki never once thought of Shizuru as a rapist, not even a bit.

>>2317953
>Antidote
Do you mean Antipode series? I have a copy of that already uploaded to mediafire here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/vk8cs8tfttj2yq8/Ange+Sinistre+and+Tsuyazakura+Fan+Fics.rar

>>2317968
>>2317949
I thought it was in character within reason. Shizuru got a very minor role in HiME to be honest so a lot of her character in HiME is up for speculation. Every character other than ShizNat was fine in the fic and with ShizNat Lestaki expanded on them to a significant degree. Natsuki comes across a little more butch but she has still has her feminine moments throughout the fic and can treat Shizuru both roughly and very gently as she comes to terms with her feelings - which is pretty on par with how she is in other good works and the anime itself. Shizuru should be fucked up post series despite how hopeful the ending was. It makes sense to combine elements of Chikane's character with Shizuru's to fill out the holes in Shizuru's character.

EMDN is pretty good though.

>>2318081
>Shizuru should be fucked up post series despite how hopeful the ending was
I agree, plus there was a drama CD that expands a little more into her thoughts, and she's very good at putting up a facade in front of others. It really only cracked due to the events of the Carnival (and Nagi being a little shit and essentially goading her). She also had quite a bit of self-hate already going on before the whole confrontation with Haruka and Yukino, so it's not far-fetched the feelings would pop up again post-anime.

>>2317953
>Whisper from the Forest
I thought the ending for this fic sucked. Really didn't like it. Icemera has this habit of making Shizuru or Natsuki have former boyfriends in the fics he writes. It's weird cause it will be like a one off thing. I noticed it in the Vampire fic too and other ones.

The thing I really hated about this fic was how everyone acted like Shizuru had personally genocided people when in reality it was just a sword fight between her, Haruka, and Natsuki. They have to disappear for 10 years and Shizuru gets taken out into a desert and spared after the shitshow that was her life. Everyone in the fic was retarded after a point and overreacted to minor shit and underreacted to major shit. Protagonists army really annoyed the shit out of me later in the fic and the morality was all over the place.

I was really pissed off by the time I got to the final chapter and it turns out Natsuki waited 10 years and might have had a boyfriend whilst Shizuru was a merc in a desert or something. And then Haruka treats Shizuru like crap cause Yukino died during the fight at the end to Shizuru - which was a war time scenario and Shizuru had some legendary sword or whatever and it was really dumb and they all kept attacking her despite how dumb it was. Frankly the author made Shizuru far too pitiful for how the other characters reacted to her and it just makes you think frankly a lot of people got what was coming to them since most of the bad guys including Shizuru were just slaves to Natsuki's father. That and Shizuru kept trying to do the right thing only to get shot down every time.

Everyone of Icemera's works is like this. It will be like a one off comment about a boyfriend at some point. His later stuff has the characters act a bit better and I will recommend some of that but the earlier stuff is too OOC for me. He needs to lay off the one sentence boyfriend crap.

File: IMG_1923.jpg (3MB, 3072x2304px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 3072x2304px

>>2318098
Damn I actually forgot about the whole Shizuru secretly hating herself thing. Damn the feels.

>>2318000
After LoveLive

That's means never

>>2317949
>>2318081
Is Windows of the Souls the one where Shizuru like admits to her parents that she raped Natsuki and it's full of OCs and shit or am I conflating two decent, but really overly indulgent ShizNat fics?

>>2318118
and tells her family the existence of the HiME's

>>2318124
Yeah, that story really could have done with ending about a third of the way in.

>>2318108
She's a rapist and a murderer. She should hate herself.

>>2318130
Yukino pls leave

>>2318105
Another thing was the way shit kept happening during the fic with no rhyme nor reason. It was fantasy but not logical in it's execution. First third was the best part before it jumped off to another world that is never mentioned again for a third of the fic only to come back to civil war/apocalypse.

Mai's character was also completely ridiculously poorly handled. Did not resemble Mai at all.

File: 1c3a87c38a733a7fc760b5115a264f5f.jpg (836KB, 1000x1406px) Image search: [Google]

836KB, 1000x1406px

Alright /u/ what do you want for a third Mai-series or movie?

Do you want it to continue in the HiMEverse, Otomeverse or a new setting

>>2318144
I feel like Mai gets short shrift a lot in ShizNat fic just for being straight. And I like Mai. Mai deserves better.

>>2317054
>>2317316
(Other anon) Agree, you both have a point. Korra isn't really great character. She isn't all that bright and she got owned more times than I
bother to count. But I still don't think that she will be a sub. That's why I think that the popularity thing holds some merit. Since Korra isn't very loved character by most, so her character got butchered more than necessary by fans.

Natsuki's character got butchered a lot too, since she is viewed as Shizuru's addition in a lot of fanfics and arts.

As already noted Sunrise portrayed Natsuki as a leader and decisive girl in Mai-Hime. She easily and naturally took the lead in most situations and other Hime accepted it. And while Shizuru was indeed the one chasing, but if she wasn't, then there would be no relationship at all between them and Shizuru understood this. Natsuki's main goal was revenge, she deliberately did not leave room for love. But if she directs her assertiveness towards a relationship instead of revenge, which ended for her, then, as someone said, beware, Shizuru.

So I think that it is unlikely that Natsuki would be a sub one. Actually I believe that their relationship will be more on an equal footing. Since the girls don't fit into a frame of those Yaoi stereotypes.

>>2318148
Being "owned" doesn't make any character worse. If she won every fight she'd be a Mary Sue.

>>2318145
Mai Valkyrie Drive

>>2318150
There's a wide range between being utterly stupid and incompetent and being a Mary Sue.

>>2318108
In drama CD and anime she hated herself mainly because she thought that her love was anacceptable/wrong and Natsuki will be disgusted. So she kept it secret.

>>2318145
ShizNat Hime spinoff

>>2318118
>>2318124
>>2318129
They'd just gotten out of Die Hard in a courthouse. They clearly needed an explanation since they were hostages for a bit cause of the all the girls being HiME and cause of Shizuru's actions in the carnival. Granted the rape bit was Shizuru feeling guilty which is the author's own invention unless we count the scene where in Shizuru cries and apologizes in Natsuki's arms post resurrection scene.

I thought that scene was written fine desu. I recently rewatched HiME and Shizuru doesn't hate herself throughout it or in Otome so most of this stuff is speculation by fans about what might happen Post Carnival outside of some official materials in the drama cds and such.

>>2318147
Mai does deserve better.

>>2318156
Her song is also about the nature of her love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv0kU2RmK2U

>>2318156
Are we ever going to get more proper yuri where at least one of the girls hates themselves for the forbidden love they feel?

>>2318166
Both Natsuki and Shizuru do feel hate inside themselves being accepted to each other. Sunrise could make ShizNat spinoff very successful more focus on them.

>>2318165
>Her song is also about the nature of her love:
Natsuki's main song has some moment too

She first says she wants to forgive the world:
At the end of a beautiful dream,
For your sake, I want to forgive
This world where sadness dances.

But then it turns into:
At the end of a beautiful dream,
For your sake, I want to destroy
This world where sadness dances,
So that we can meet in a new life.

I think they deserve each other. They are both fucked up characters. Natsuki is often ennobled, but in fact she did a lot of shit for her revenge and i have no doubt that Natsuki killed taking into account her behavior

File: 04fe44e38c242859c0bb1b77429eb8ec.jpg (176KB, 551x800px) Image search: [Google]

176KB, 551x800px

>>2318145
HiME sequel with more fanservice and HiME sentai fun with Midori-chan

>>2318130
Well I'll give you credit your willful ignorance is persistent but by all means please go fornicate with a nice thorny piece of bramble.

>>2318170
>Natsuki is often ennobled
*often being ennobled

>>2318170
Are were gonna see Natsuki going dark and twisted since she too caring and protective to Shizuru.

>>2318166
Unlikely, since most of "yuri" nowadays is just lighthearted subtext or fanservice/teasing. I actually kinda miss the gayngst.

>>2318178
I really fucking miss it too. I want the forbidden part of Forbidden Love back.

I'm sick of yuri gags and subtext. Full blown gayngst would be great.

>>2318174
I think Natsuki was fucked up to begin with. Her initial circumstances is the reason. Mother who was more fixated on science and then get into a terrible accident that took her mom's life. Asshole father who left her in the hospital severely damaged and walked out of her life with his mistress. And then a lonely life, dedicated to revenge, from the age of seven

>>2318179
It doesn't even have to be gayangst. Just gay and angsty would do for me

>>2318182
Natsuki should have been the Sasuke of Mai Hime. I was thinking about how deep Natsuki hatred and how could affect the HiME's including Shizuru's sake.

Maybe love and forgiveness won't hold Natsuki any much longer.

>>2318171
We need more Midori-chan

>>2318197
I think what people like about Natsuki is that she isn't the Sasuke and gets over her anger. I liked Natsuki as a commander in Otome. Some people didn't but I felt it was a good evolution that made sense considering her and Shizuru being the First and Second HiME respectively in the previous show.

Lacked fight scenes but with a cannon liked that it makes sense that she isn't bought out for every battle.

>>2318207
Yeah she was fun.

>>2318211
Sifr was the only thing good about Otome

>>2318244
So you said earlier. You must have really liked Sifr.

>>2318244
Otome was great. You just hate fun things.

The whole dom/sub debate is once again as retarded as ever. Because you guys seem to have only the most retarded gender roles, or definition of yaoi seme/uke in your mind. That is not what dom/sub is.

Here is the thing: Shizuru is no doubt the older one in the relationship and always acts so when treating Natsuki, no matter the series. Does this mean Natsuki is the little submissive uke like in your yaoi doujin? No. Natsuki is a feisty tsundere. Does this mean Natsuki is the "man"? No. Natsuki is the younger girl.

Stop thinking in sexist terms such as "leader = male role" or "blushing = submissive." First, imagine a het couple. There's nothing strange about a capable, cool, feminine girl being the Head of an organization, while her boyfriend is the cool bodyguard. Nothing strange about a cute girl making a jock a blushing mess. Plenty feisty wives bully their mild-mannered husbands. Or look at Kaname Madoka's parents, a stay-at-home dad and a career mom, and both are regular masculine man and feminine woman, not gay crossdressers. And women can stay on top during sex with men without looking any less feminine.

At the end of the day, when talking about dom/sub, it's not about who can make the other blush more, nor who has a higher position in society, nor even who stay on top during sex. It's more of a "who is the primary pillar between the two" (providing emotional and resource support more often than the other party does). And with that, Natsuki is no doubt Shizuru's "princess", whom Shizuru primarily wants to protect and provide for, much more than wanting those things from Natsuki. Natsuki is the sub, because she's a girly girl who is melt by Shizuru's spoiling her.

>>2318271
>You just hate fun things.

You are damn right because fun doesn't suit me with Otome. Sifr and Zwei showed me what fun is all about.

Do you think the Muse seiyuu will show up as supporting characters or play a bigger role in the next Mai-Hime series

>>2318150
>Being "owned" doesn't make any character worse.
It does if they never improve; or lose because of repeated stupidity while the people around them win.

>>2316083
This is still my all time favorite pairing

>>2318334
Unless one of Muse seiyuu gets a role as Nao girlfriend, then it's likely were gonna see some.

>>2318308
>sexist

Stopped reading here.

File: 56583361_p4_master1200.jpg (536KB, 500x737px) Image search: [Google]

536KB, 500x737px

>>2318339

File: 22cfc3a6ce0d2cbd5411df2bba24a009869e85de.jpg (146KB, 720x960px) Image search: [Google]

146KB, 720x960px

>>2318346

>>2318343
Triggered so easily?

It was actually an insightful post. I ultimately disagree as I think Natsuki would still be the one to take charge of things however.

>>2318359
Why are you encouraging tumblrtards? Are you the person who called Mai Hime "homophobic" near the beginning of this thread?

>>2318379
Most certainly not I was one of the anons defending Shizuru. Both Viola and Fujino.

It might be its late and I have a lower tolerance for people who get upset over a single word. But you're right it's not worth it. Apologies.

>>2318343
Someone who get triggered by a normal word like that is barely literate anyway.

>>2318379
>typing "sexism" is tumblrtard now
Faggots like you are as cancerous as the retard who called MH homophobic. Why don't you fuck off to /pol/ you fragile little whiner?

Ahem so getting somewhat back on track.

I was somewhat tempted to make Shizuru or Natsuki in both Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne. Bloodborne would probably be easier to make Natsuki in cause you can duel wield guns but you can also summon a snake from a portal in the ground.

But Dark Souls has frost spells and weapons for Natsuki and the Splitleaf Greatsword which is more like a large naginata for Shizuru.

Tempted but I don't wanna put in the work at the same time. Especially since a lot of that stuff is late game.

>>2318385
Do it in Monster Hunter. Both can be made rather easily and both have weapon types that represent them to an extent.

File: natnao.gif (1MB, 1125x1600px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1125x1600px

Who here is a fan of NatNao?

>>2317212

Not that I was ever a fan, but this scene ruined Tomoe's character forever for me.

>>2318308
>sexiest

Stopped reading here

>>2318470
Did poor little baby get triggered? Maybe you should go back to your /pol/ hug chamber.

File: 1b3c877a2c57b6fcb3fc63babdf2ed00.jpg (133KB, 500x650px) Image search: [Google]

133KB, 500x650px

>>2318400
Not me I prefer ShizNao

>>2318315
I actually do love Zwei. Weirdly enough, it's the little details, like how much more muscular Arika's figure is that I really like. You just know that she's been working out with Haruka. Wish we got to see more of the other older Otome.

Sifr was fine, but the lack of yuri was disappointing. There was plenty of opportunities to add more but all we really got was Eliot's one-sided love for Rena and that cameo from Destiny. I guess maybe that was inevitable given it's the origin story of two known to be heterosexual characters.

File: hisayuki_05.jpg (168KB, 800x495px) Image search: [Google]

168KB, 800x495px

>>2318531
>There was plenty of opportunities to add more but all we really got was Eliot's one-sided love for Rena and that cameo from Destiny.

Dang, Eliot showed up in Destiny didn't see that coming, do you have pic of her cameo? Shame Rena didn't had a cameo in Destiny or Mai Hime/Otome blu-rays. Rena in the Himeverse would be very interesting to see interact with Mai and probably would see Mai as an adversary to her.

File: natsuki does not approve.png (217KB, 541x476px) Image search: [Google]

217KB, 541x476px

>>2318520

File: 233320e81f4e133db51ecd3198a9ec6b72e62900.jpg (110KB, 480x615px) Image search: [Google]

110KB, 480x615px

>>2318735
I'm sorry that you're such shallow minded mutt and your master doesn't care about you at all

File: 13066091.jpg (434KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

434KB, 1000x1000px

>>2318355

File: resize.jpg (4MB, 2325x2325px) Image search: [Google]

4MB, 2325x2325px

damn image size limit

File: 28762134_p0.jpg (150KB, 600x800px) Image search: [Google]

150KB, 600x800px

two dresses is best

>>2318174
>Are were gonna see Natsuki going dark and twisted since she too caring and protective to Shizuru.
Actually it wouldn't be far from the truth. Cuz Natsuki did a lot of bad things in the name of her mother. And if she is able to go so far for the sake of a dead loved one, then I'm afraid to guess how far she can go for the sake of a living loved one.

>>2318872
The utmost thing Natsuki suffers the most is trust and love. In the next series we might see Natsuki betray one of the HiME's and I hope it's not Mai or Mikoto.

File: 66d29649d149c377aa445f485cb21af7.jpg (64KB, 640x492px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 640x492px

>>2318782
Optimal solution here.

File: 1354597773346.jpg (91KB, 700x494px) Image search: [Google]

91KB, 700x494px

>>2318919
Uh......no

File: 29697555_p9.jpg (174KB, 443x622px) Image search: [Google]

174KB, 443x622px

Nao was a pretty awful human being, but for some reason I still liked her.

File: [DeadFish] Mai Hime - 24 [BD][720p][AAC].mp4_snapshot_14.22_[2014.04.04_17.19.05].jpg (69KB, 960x720px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 960x720px

>>2318929
>Nao was a pretty awful human being
I see no faults with Nao, she's much more of tragic character like Natsuki and a better MC than Mai.

File: 40374516_p0.jpg (44KB, 413x567px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 413x567px

>>2318927
Yeah get the spider out of here.

File: [DeadFish] Mai Hime - 24 [BD][720p][AAC].mp4_snapshot_11.58_[2014.04.04_17.02.34].jpg (50KB, 960x720px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 960x720px

>>2318934
Mother Nursery Rhymes don't end here you dirty mutt

File: Our_beloved_Kaichou_Part_2_by_blacksensei.jpg (20KB, 364x226px) Image search: [Google]

20KB, 364x226px

>>2318937
You sound like you need to take a leek.

>>2318872
>>2318877
I like dark as much as the next person but let's be real here Natsuki is not Sasuke there's a reason Natsuki is associated with wolves, it's because she's loyal.

If you still want Dark I'd suggest Mai Kisaki assuming it can still be found since Shojo Ai is no longer with us.

>>2318988
Here you go:
https://nullroute.eu.org/mirrors/shoujoai.com/site/
https://nullroute.eu.org/mirrors/shoujoai.com/site/fanfics/maihime/kisaki-index.html

>>2318997
I should probably add this to my above link for Antipode and KyotoHunt with Tsuyazakura's works.

If you got any other works you want me to find go ahead and ask.

>>2319002
Since you're offering, there's a fic I was looking for a while back - I originally read it on ff.n years ago, but couldn't find it there anymore. Don't remember the name, but ShizNat invite the rest of the Hime girls over to play a truth-or-dare type game, leading to a bunch of sexy hijinks.

>>2319020
Are any of these familiar:
https://www.fanfiction.net/search.php?ready=1&keywords=truth%20or%20dare&categoryid=2244&genreid1=0&genreid2=0&languageid=1&censorid=0&statusid=0&type=story&match=&sort=&ppage=1&characterid1=0&characterid2=0&characterid3=0&characterid4=0&words=0&formatid=0

>>2319022
No, not any of those. It was definitely M-rated, and was a decent length.

>>2319028
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5609258/1/Shizuru-s-Game
Is that it?

>>2319030
I think that was it, yeah.
Weird, I definitely remember looking though Leebot's stuff when I was trying to find it. Don't know how I could've missed it. Thanks, though.

>>2319033
Yeah leebot has a lot of good fics.

Got anything else you want me to search for?

>>2318988
>Mai Kisaki
>Oh I remember reading this fan-
>It's a Hime/Otome canon story

Dropped.

>>2319087
>(You)

File: f61d03bbfe4281ff223ca9b02e61b2ce.jpg (67KB, 300x400px) Image search: [Google]

67KB, 300x400px

>>2318984
More like you need to drink more green tea and chips for your narcissistic voice.

>>2319403
Uh why the hetshit?

>>2319405
>when you save an image but didn't notice the dick

File: 1471801170895.jpg (220KB, 800x575px) Image search: [Google]

220KB, 800x575px

>>2319405
Because Nao is a bisexual

But she still loves Aoi-san

>>2319713
Actually she's a robosexual considering how she looked at Miyu in the bath in Otome.

File: IMG_1938.gif (1MB, 600x930px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 600x930px

>>2319713
>>2319721
Regardless of her sexuality there is no need for penises... peni?

No male genitalia our battle maidens must remain pure!

I say as I post a strap on pic I ironically.

File: 1482940273978.jpg (156KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

156KB, 640x480px

>>2319721
>robosexual

While having sex how will Miyu and Nao find a way to create or gather electricity.

>>2319737
Disgusting slobs, they look like fucking animals fucking

>>2319798
Well, humans are animals. And they're having sex. So, yeah.

>>2319760
Could always tie miyu to an electrical surge and call it bondage.

>>2319737
>peni
'Penes', if you want to be fancy about it, but 'penises' is fine.

>>2319831
True dat.

File: IMG_0370.jpg (67KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]

67KB, 400x400px

Am I foolish for hoping for a new Mai series? It's been so long...

File: maikoto.webm (317KB, 960x720px) Image search: [Google]

317KB, 960x720px

You could (re)watch an edited version of Mai-Hime with way less hetshit and more maikoto:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkl7Mc4arVF8wZxV3PIzBUg0MlV_apxlv
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mk9BRLxa!yqh0l2rSwahL02zAVYB_dw

Mai-Otome has an edited version as well, with way less het, no pedo, less focus on daddy issues and more focus on Arika x Mashiro:
https://mega.nz/#F!W9EBXBzY!aixuhzemE8eVCSO94YVE_g

>>2318169
Sunrise is stupid. ShizNat was very popular and I'm sure, even now, if they made a new anime with them as main characters, it would sell good.

>>2320069
>Am I foolish for hoping for a new Mai series? It's been so long...

You are not alone my friend

>>2320134
>>2320146
They can finally make that movie, you know, the one with the fake (troll) trailer because honestly that one had so much potential in term of fixing and dealing with the aftermath of the anime, and ShizNat of course.

>>2320134
>Sunrise is stupid
They're not stupid they are lazy as fuck

File: natsuk10 (2).jpg (242KB, 668x555px) Image search: [Google]

242KB, 668x555px

>>2318988
>I like dark as much as the next person but let's be real here Natsuki is not Sasuke there's a reason Natsuki is associated with wolves, it's because she's loyal.

I do not know much about Sasuke, didn't watch Naruto.

The reason why I said that Natsuki has a lot of darkness in herself and can go very far for her beloved person, it is primarily because of her actions.

From Natsuki no Prelude we found out why Mikoto drifted in the ocean unconscious and had to be rescued at the beginning of the first episode, it was Natsuki's doing. Natsuki laid an ambush and destroyed the car where Mikoto was traveling (picture attached). Because it is unlikely Mikoto was at the wheel, means the driver got either seriously injured or even died. Funny thing before the attack Natsuki did not know for sure that Mikoto was a Hime, so she could potentially destroy an innocent transfer student and her family that was taking her to school. This action makes Natsuki no better than the First District that ambushed her and her mom.

She ordered Duran to shoot in the ship in the first episode, not giving a damn that innocent passengers might suffer injury or death. Then she left Mai and Mikoto to drown in the ocean, again not giving a damn that they might die. And so on. Her behavior throughout the anime is implying that she killed and seems her conscience did not torment her.

But these Natsuki's actions did not leave much impact in the memory of the audience, because they were not dramatic full anguish like actions that girls have done during the Carnival. Natsuki did it pretty coldly.

Gotta say I like Natsuki, but I do not like that she is being ennobled a bit too much.

>>2320183
There is no lazy when it comes to money anon. They just don't believe in supporting old anime

>>2320187
Except she did all that before character development.

If anything I see Natsuki further developing into the hero she is, you know the kind of hero who would sacrifice themselves to stop a rampaging friend.

If anything I think Shizuru still has some growth to do. Coming to terms with herself and such.

>>2320191
Agreed, they tried, but they were losing popularity with each new series, they never managed to repeat the success of Mai-Hime.

>>2320192
>you know the kind of hero who would sacrifice themselves to stop a rampaging friend.

(other anon) Natsuki understood that they had no chance, since should remain only one Hime and since they were MIPs of each other, they will die anyway. So she took a chance and decided to bet on Mai. But if there was a chance to save Shizuru without dying, I'm sure she would've took it.

>If anything I see Natsuki further developing into the hero she is

Not quite so. She is fundamentally damaged and it can be not solved so easily.

By the end of the anime I think description of anti-hero suits her more. But what she did, she had already committed it, it can not be erased.

>>2320192
Back then I was a really big fan of Shizuru with her unapologetic behavior, and now I'm still her fan but I gained a new appreciation for Natsuki after several rewatch and in-depth character analyzing.

Natsuki is a very interesting character, with ups and downs, who has a dark side but never let it control her and by the end of the series she had matured so much; on Shizuru's case, because of her status as a side character, she didn't recieve that much development. She still had her nicks and quirks, her core motive and personality were clear but Sunrise wasted such a big oppotunity for tremendous character development in favor of a very flippant "Sorry!" in epidode 26. Imagine the angst potential of the aftermath of Shizuru's insane episode and its resolution...

It's been 13 years and I'm still salty, you can tell.

>>2320201
Let's not confuse pragmatism with selfishness here. Hell Natsuki did manage to stop Shizuru but still chose death for reasons.

Further let's not go the way of every half cocked fanfic writer and undo natural story progression. Instead of focusing on said progression all for the sake of being gritty or edgey.

The term anti hero has become so watered down over the decades it went from referring to a character that was only heroic due to their enemies being even worse to being any hero with a bad attitude.

Yes before character development Natsuki was willing to kill to keep her status as a Hime secret but we can't deny that she has had character development and has become much warmer as a result.

And yes emotional scars take time to heal but Natsuki is the type to resolve to push past the pain and be better. A sequel series shouldn't be a rehash of her angst just for the sake of being "dark" rather it should be the continuation of her progress through the classical heroes journey.

>>2320192
It depends on what kind of logic to apply.
If it's anime logic then yes she is a hero and is cured, but so is Shizuru. Because the same logic should be applied to Shizuru and other girls. All forgiven, a fresh new start.

But If we take a bit more realistic approach then as already was mentioned, a character so fundamentally damaged as Natsuki can not change so much because the kernel remains the same, if you once was capable of such things, you will always be capable of such things. Plus the way she did these things, it was not in the heat of moment, clouded with anger, like Nao's actions and these were not actions of a character who was broken under high pressure and was used by OL to do a dirty job like Shizuru. Natsuki committed these acts coldly with no care for the innocent.

>>2320207
>in favor of a very flippant "Sorry!"
Honestly I think Nao and Yukino deserved just this Kind of an apology nothing nothing less.

Because Nao attacked Shizuru the second time.
And Yukino provoked Shizuru when all she asked them to leave. Yukino had to take the chance and run away, because it was clear that Shizuru was waiting for Yukino to choose run or attack, Yukino attacked. Shizuru won in a fair fight.

>>2320209
>Let's not confuse pragmatism with selfishness here. Hell Natsuki did manage to stop Shizuru but still chose death for reasons.

When you decide not only your fate, but also the fate of another person, it can not be called selfishness. By the way this is another interesting characteristic of Natsuki. Because to plan in advance to kill your MIP and be able to execute your plan, it's pretty inhumane, not because Natsuki did something bad, but because what kind of self-control do you need to have to go through with this, and more Natsuki did it with a calm face.

>>2320128
Pepper version is really the only way to watch it. Turns the show into an actual (if low key) yuri show.

>>2320251
>selfishness
Man I need to read more carefully before responding. Because my brain replaced the word selfishness with selfless. Sorry >>2320209 , my bad!

>>2320191
>They just don't believe in supporting old anime
>Sunrise brings back old IP's like Zegapain and Code Geass
>Sunrise could force Studio 8 to do a new Mai-series or have another studio to work on it

Sunrise makes the decisions, not them

>>2320195
Well they have no choice it's either more LoveLive, a new Mai Hime series feat. ShizNat or a new Gundam series.

Studio 8 has no choice unless they pull another Bones in this generation

File: untitled__by_j_crusader-d51m0oh.jpg (199KB, 1600x666px) Image search: [Google]

199KB, 1600x666px

>>2318308
It was interesting to read your post till I read the last sentence which crossed out all the good things since you put them in the same sexist stereotypes that you were so against.

I love to wear girlish clothes and stuffed animals. But I also love hard rock, active sport, bloody violent video games and horror movies.

Judging by her behavior, Natsuki takes a very active and proactive role in that she is interested in. Previously, friendship and love were not among her interests. But it has changed.

Also I think people pointed out that Natsuki is a leader by nature, not because leader = male role, but because when you're a leader, you'll be uncomfortable being in the position of a sub most of the time, it will be unsatisfactory for you. And it can ruin a relationship because you will suppress a part of yourself and in the end you either will want to escape or change the relationship.

In general I agree with this >>2318148 and >>2318359

>>2320321
I want a new Mai Hime series, but I'm afraid, because they can destroy Mai-Hime with their sequel. Like how they destroy Darker than black or other good anime

>>2320332

I'm talking Studio 8 leaving on their own volition like one of the main Sunrise studios left to form Bones without Sunrise knowledge. If it happens again then Sunrise sure is fucked and I don't think pleading with money will ever bring'em back.

For the Mai Hime sequel, I hope they won't pull a DB Super or GT somehow. I would rather let them make a sequel series and make the fake movie real for the 15th anniversary project. Mai franchise has ton of potential but Sunrise needs done more to exploit and now it's biting them because yuri is about to have another huge run.

>>2320332
I've never understood how someone can let a bad sequel destroy something they love.

>>2320352
I don't wanna derail this too much but what do you dislike about Super? For the most part I think it's much better than GT so far. I'm eager to get to the Goku Black saga and see Future Trunks and Future Mai.

Hmmm Hime Mai x Super's Future Mai?

File: 1479933568980.jpg (1MB, 2037x2955px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2037x2955px

>>2320356
Don't know about Super and GT, I would like to see the HiME's face whatever tougher and much darker challenges await. Everyone from Sears Foundation, First District and potential unknown threats that the HiME's would face against. I want to see Rena in the HiMEverse as a adversary or rival against Mai/Natsuki and Miyu because she plays a key figure to the Sears Foundation and knows alot about HiME's purposes.

Rena Sayers is the Char Azernable of the Mai-franchise.

>>2320332
When was the last anime sequel was better than the original anime

>>2320451
Nanoha.

>>2320487
Well dang need to watch whole series of Nanoha

>>2320353
You should feel their pain man

>>2320500
Note that only Nanoha A' is a great sequel. Nanoha StrikerS is a disgrace, even though it gave everyone adult!NanoFate sleeping on the same bed and adopt a daughter together.

>>2320571
It was not a disgrace. It had very uneven pacing and too many characters, but it also had some great parts.

>>2320433
>Rena Sayers is the Char Azernable of the Mai-franchise.

Wh-What!!!!

>>2316083
Why the hell would you want that homophobic bitch at the front? That scene were the true yuri girl of the show slapped her was awesome.

Any good Shizuru x Natsuki fics?

>>2321410
Definitely not, it's not like it's one of the most prolific ships in all of animu history or anything.

File: IMG_1945.jpg (103KB, 900x1080px) Image search: [Google]

103KB, 900x1080px

>>2321328
Please take a long walk off a short plank.

You selective comprehension is painful.

Besides the woman who's actually inspired by a Japanese legend and her summon which carries that legend's name, which need I remind you is a giant fucking hydra, is leagues above the whiny bitch who could only summon a fish in the manga.

Your paltry "argument" is invalid. Although I can understand why you like Haruka you sound like a broken record just like her.

>>2321441
Pretty sure she's insulting Haruka, not praising her.

File: IMG_1947.jpg (158KB, 850x221px) Image search: [Google]

158KB, 850x221px

>>2321448
I see that now my sincerest apologies.

Just looked like that other anon railing against Shizuru.

>>2321328
Once again my apologies.

Just finished. I really loved it despite the fact all the het was really off putting.

One thing I dont get what the fuck was up with Nagi. Despite betraying them, him and the crystal princess seemed to be on really good terms at the end. Was he on their side the whole time?

>>2321469
I interpreted it as Nagi just being a graceful loser. I mean it is implied he's basically an otherworldly "Loki" type thing.

He succeeded his Lord and doesn't seem to have a purpose anymore.

But yeah there does seem to be a lot of unanswered questions. Like the exact nature of the Obsidian Lord etc.

>>2321469
Nagi's a scheming weasel, but he was only just trying to do his part in making sure the Carnival comes to pass, like the Obsidian Lord--whom he serves--wanted. Mashiro also wanted it, but she had a plan to stop it once and for all. So up until a certain point, their interests were aligned.

He's just a minion and not really a big bad, so it stands to reason he and Mashiro aren't that antagonistic with each other.

>>2321495
>But yeah there does seem to be a lot of unanswered questions

Nagi mention Mashiro about the HiME winning the Carnival without fatalities would bring the world into destruction and uncertain threats that the HiME's must face as well. Also Nagi mention of a war as a second phase but Mashiro believes HiME's could change it.

Fumi expression worries her greatly about Nagi's prediction of the HiME's future.

>>2321495
>He succeeded his Lord and doesn't seem to have a purpose anymore.

He does have a purpose and Mashiro came back to the HiMEverse as Pre-K kids because shit really about to hit fan.

Oh god. I tried reading the Mai Hime manga. It is fucking terrible.

Why did the fucking author turn Natsuki into a het slut desiring dicks? Its fucking disgraceful.

>>2321519
>Why did the fucking author turn Natsuki into a het slut desiring dicks?

That what Natsuki truly is she kinda bisexual

>>2321523
Natsuki in the anime had no real sexuality. She could get embarrassed and feel shame but she only had any attraction to Shizuru so no.

In the manga Natsuki was het. For reasons.

>>2321519
Don't read the Otome manga you'll thank me later.

>>2321508
>>2321512
What? Nagi served the Obsidian Lord who had an unexplained cycle where every few hundred years there'd be a battle royale where the Obsidian Lord would remake the world for reasons.

Why did Nagi serve this entity? Reasons. What was Nagi? Who knows. As much as I abhor the manga at least it made a point of saying Nagi was an extension of the Obsidian Lord. In the anime we have no idea what Nagi is.

>>2321544
Eh anime Nagi still completely shits on manga version. Way more likable. and surprisingly remained likable throughout the entire show.

>>2321544
>Why did Nagi serve this entity? Reasons. What was Nagi?

Nagi was like a guardian to Fuuka and I'm sure his allegiance to the HiME's because of his relationship with Mashiro. I do believe in history many HiME's have won the Carnival but in the aftermath was very grave for the previous HiME's. Obsidian Lord was smalltime to Nagi and Nagi been much more work behind the scenes making deals to give Fuuka hidden treasures to other forces while OL and Mashiro sleep throughout the years. Nagi has been much more of sly person whatever he's doing has good or bad intentions.

>>2321544
>Natsuki in the anime had no real sexuality. She could get embarrassed and feel shame but she only had any attraction to Shizuru so no.

I think there were a hints that Natsuki is probably a lesbian or just Sizurusexual.

For example, in Natsuki no Prelude was said that Natsuki was someone who seemed pretty opposed to embracing the opposite sex.

Then in anime Nao called Natsuki a butch who is low on female hormones, and Mai said to Natsuki that she actually thought Natsuki might be a lesbian.

Of course, all this could mean that she behaved manly and fell under the stereotype of a lesbian.
Although from the additional materials we know that Natsuki and Shizuru will eventually became a pair. And taking into account Natsuki's great desire to sort out her feelings at the end of anime, it seems to me that Shizuru did not have to wait long for Natsuki

>>2321655
>Natsuki and Shizuru will eventually became a pair.
Edit: Natsuki and Shizuru eventually became a pair

>>2321556
>Nagi was like a guardian to Fuuka and I'm sure his allegiance to the HiME's because of his relationship with Mashiro.
I think Nagi and Mashiro were lovers and since Mashiro was the winner of the previous carnival, he followed her as her MIP, or maybe it was her wish, cos OL promises to fulfill one wish for the winner. Or her wish was more farsighted and she wished for the opportunity to end the carnival once and for all. But as with any wishes, it was fulfilled not as she expected.

>>2321410
J. Peterson? Her fics are well-written and mostly stay in character, not to mention that Mai is treated very nicely in her fics, as opposed to some of the more unfair treatment she got in other fics like some kind anon said in this thread.

>>2321657
Too late now I'm envisioning Natsuki and Shizuru dressing up as pears for Halloween.

>>2321655
>Then in anime Nao called Natsuki a butch who is low on female hormones, and Mai said to Natsuki that she actually thought Natsuki might be a lesbian.
I forgot about these conversations despite watching it recently.

>>2321664
OL was never going to fulfill those wishes to the winners anyway. I agree over Nagi and Mashiro were lovers part, I think both work together on ending the Carnival however in Mai Otome BD's showing up again and might have created a replica of the Black Mountain.

>>2322060
Mai Otome anime had virtually nothing to do with Mai Hime anime other than some minor Easter eggs.

>>2322125
No, I'm not going that far but I have to remind that Hime had some Easter eggs too in Otome.

Manga is canon, anime is non-canon.