Flip Flappers: Why can't YYK transform edition

Static characters by definition don't change.

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Remember her anons?

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This is an unususal pairing

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Is this just a slumber party or an orgy?

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>>2299498
Sayuri is not there with a camera so its slumber party or maybe its both

>>2299498
Both. Orgy first, slumbering second.

>>2299498
I am kind of surprised that Yuyu wears the most adult underwear of the bunch.

>>2299547
Its finished?

>>2299556
The typesetting? Unfortunately no. I've been busy this past few weeks. ;_;

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>>2299547
Where's that meme of Cocona wiping sweat from her brow when you need it? Goodness, this is lewd.

>>2299564
Ok, just making sure I hadn't missed something.

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>>2299585
Got you covered

>>2299547
>Papika wearing panties
That is wrong.

>>2299619
Thanks, sis.

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I didn't even notice there are hidden images.

>>2299678
>YYKPPK
The circle is now complete.

>>2299689
I don't know how you could not expect them given that the picture represents episode 9 of the series.

are YYKfags the new tamaofags?

>>2299948
I wish people would stop bringing up that shitty anime.

>>2299948
YYKfags are different in that they behave more like waifufags than ever before. They like YYK herself more than they like Yayacoco. We even had a flfl /u/ thread where the OP image was just Yayaka herself rather than anything yuri related. Those kind of posts really belong on /a/ or /c/ more than here.

>>2299958
Not everyone who posts Yayaka images is like that.

I'm happy with how the anime ended, but I also like pairing Yayaka with Cocona or Papika (or both).

I hate how every time an anime even hints at a love triangle there's all these stupid ship wars on /u/.

>>2299948
they are pretty obnoxious some times.

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>>2299977
Hey now...

>>2299948
Better or worse than [MONTHLY REMINDER]?

>>2300782
better because at least YYK has actual character development and depth.

>>2301365
I really wish Papika had gotten a character arc like Yayaka did. She changes so quickly across the first few episodes as she learns things like boundaries and personal space and how to not be pushy, but then she just kinda stops and orbits Cocona for the rest of the series, static and unchanging. Her big revelation comes from the abrupt recollection of a past life and then she just goes back to being normal pretty much right after.

I feel like they could've done more there. If they had time to develop Yayaka so well despite being a 3rd wheel/midboss then they ought to have had time to give Papika a bit of her own arc.

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>>2302639

I'm kinda confused what the order of panels is here.

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>>2302700

>>2302693
No, this is a left-to-right manga.

>>2303310
Yayaka looks really good in black, doesn't she

>>2303311
Cocona has a cute Cocobutt.

>>2304987
Lovely sideboob on Papika in this one.

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"Sore dakara watashi wa henshin dekinai" by Ayanero is OUT!!!

>http://lazylily.moe/lewd-sore-dakara-watashi-wa-henshin-dekinai-flip-flappers-is-out/

>>2305296
>release post doesn't provide a download link and instead links to another website
????

anyway here is the direct download link
https://mega.nz/#!89g32KDY!-Ymyk2lxcffSDwKPYsaMWswZU8UAP3dGyVarywoJ_to

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>>2305296
>forehead licking

>>2305448
there isn't any problem with that but the scanlator's website is sleazy enough to make 4chan look respectable in comparison and i'd rather avoid visiting it.

>>2301633
yeah it really is a missed opportunity considering Papika being an adult in a kid's body would fit the "being sacred to grow up" narrative perfectly.

>>2305461
such a narrative would not fit the themes of the show though. Papika and Cocona's continued adventures is a victory. Salt's pure reality is as much a nightmarescape as the Class S school was. (I read his PI being so barren of magic on the surface as related to the loss of Mimi and his father.)

Besides Papika isn't an adult in a kid's body. She clearly sees her existences as separate and says as much to Salt when he calls her on it.

Papika is just a girl who was able to be cheerful even in a life as a disposable lab rat and that allowed her to open the hearts of introverted blue haired girls.

She learned to be a better partner for Cocona over the course of the series, she didn't need a more depressing character arc.

Cocona's growth to becoming an equal partner with Papika rather than trailing behind was the main focus and the show was better for it.

>>2305439
>>2305448
>>2305457
I know this is going to sound weird, but of all the boards on 4chan, /u/ seems to be the less disgusting and more sane of them, and this is from someone who has seen some shitty stuff... what weird times we are living.

Fuck, I've been sitting in the old thread for over a week and forgot to check the catalog for a new one.

>>2305296
Damn Yayaka's inner monologue throughout this doujin is pure gold, as expected of the best girl.

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As a YYKfag, what killed me was that
>CCN friendzones YYK, then confesses to PPK
and then anons here speculated that the entire point to YYK's character arc was about self-acceptance, and getting over your feelings after you lose. That she was supposed to move on, find someone else, the rabbit will help her cope, etc. It sucked to see her just alone at the end with the damn rabbit. And because of all that, I was hesitant to ship ヤヤココ because it would not only deny PPK's love, but also go against the implied point to YYK's character of moving on. And a threesome was even less feasible because it felt like a pity option that cheapened the romance all around, and would still leave YYK as the third wheel. I didn't feel hooking YYK up with any of the other characters was any good either.

I'll ship ヤヤココ anyway. Fuck it.

>>2305883
>I was hesitant to ship ヤヤココ
I'll also add that it's not a typical moe SoL/idolshit ship, or what you'd see out of other subtexty stuff like Precure, because of the love triangle drama.

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>>2305883
>I was hesitant to ship ヤヤココ because it would not only deny PPK's love
Meh, I was never really that invested in PPK's side, she was your typical bakagenki who was crushing on CCN from the first second. The CCNxYYK dynamic was much more balanced and I would have enjoyed it if that was explored instead. It's just shipping anyway, no need to feel bad just because you a like the non canon one even if it's subjectively better.

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>>2305895
I completely agree. I almost never go for the bakagenki type. But Dark Magical Girls? Dark Action Girls? Tomboys? A blend of all of them? Sign me the fuck up. I feel the same way about PPK; her love is still questionable:
>how much of it is imprinting from seeing CCN as a baby as Papikana
>does she even understand romantic love? We saw horny PPK in episode 8, but still.

But those love confessions and wedding dresses at the end of episode 12 made PPKxCCN seem more canon than your usual ship compared to >>2305887, which had me hung up for a while.

Like I said though,
>I'll ship ヤヤココ anyway. Fuck it.

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>>2305902
>how much of it is imprinting from seeing CCN as a baby as Papikana
The show did try and establish that, but it fell flat for me personally. When the non-protagonist YYK's feelings and character is much more closely examined than the primary love interest's, you know somebody fucked up putting the show together. Now, CCN and PPK work in FliFla mostly because of the heavy fairytale aspect of it, they are soulmates who were bound to be together no matter what and their love trumps all.

It's the reason I try not to speak too negatively of the canon couple. It's just my personal taste is much more in line with Cocona and Yayaka slowly building up a healthier relationship. I'd love to see an alternative FliFla without Papika just focusing on Cocona and Yayaka. People said YYK couldn't fulfill PPK's role to bring real meaning into CCN's life, but I always thought that was more of a narrative convenience. I'm sure people could come up with many ideas in which Cocona and Yayaka open up and enter a stable and healthy relationship. But that's just my personal taste.

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>>2305911
>because of the heavy fairytale aspect of it, they are soulmates who were bound to be together no matter what
I think the director went so far as to say it outright, and it felt cheap and Creator's Pet-ish to me as well, mainly because of how PPK was written. From another anon in the old thread:
>Her love always seemed more pure or innocent, she never really gave any indication that she had awareness of her or Cocona's body or any desires like that. Seemed almost too innocent.

I fear there may be no more official media from this show; hopefully there will be more ヤヤココ doujins at C92. Shame this show didn't really pick up popularity.

Random non-shipping-related question: why did Salt and PPK let CCN just live under Asclepius surveillance with the robot Obaa-chan? Did Asclepius outsmart Salt and PPK and trick them? Did Salt and PPK just not care?

>>2305920
>why did Salt and PPK let CCN just live under Asclepius surveillance with the robot Obaa-chan?
As they showed in episode 10, Asclepius commanded pretty much overwhelming physical force that Flip Flap couldn't oppose directly. They couldn't take Cocona away because Asclepius would have just come and taken her back by force, like they did at the end of episode 1. Their only hope was basically to just keep a profile low enough that Asclepius wouldn't consider them worth destroying.

There wasn't really any harm in Cocona living under those conditions, anyways. Salt seemed to know that they wouldn't go after Cocona's shard until it was the very last one left.

That said, I still don't understand what Salt's plan was. He predicted Asclepius would attack Flip Flap and try to take the shards they had collected, but then what? Reviving Mimi didn't seem to be his goal and he didn't seem to have any sort of long-term plan for keeping the shards out of Asclepius' hands or doing anything with them.

>>2305883
>>2305895
>>2305902
>>2305911
the reason I can't get into Yayaka and Cocona together is that it completely removes Cocona's agency from the story (which was all about her finding agency). Yayaka is constantly used to communicate the difference between friendship and love from Cocona's perspective.

I also feel some of you are diminishing Papika's character far too much.

>>2306604
Most stuff involving Yayacoco has Cocona being the one in control.
Part of the problem with Papicoco is that Papika is just so much more capable than Cocona in pretty much every way. All Cocona really has on her is that Papika loves her, which kinda makes their relationship feel unbalanced. Even if Papika treats her like an equal, it's hard to see them like equals. Papika had no flaws.

Yayaka works well because she did have flaws and thus could work in a relationship in a way that doesn't seem so imbalanced. Yeah, at the start of the show, her relationship with Cocona was really lopsided, but that changed and developed over the course of the show, both with Yayaka finding how to be true to her own desires and Cocona finding how to take some control over her life. There's room for give and take there.

Instead, the only real decision Cocona made in the show about Cocona learning to make her own decisions, was that she traded up to a younger, gayer mommy to pamper and baby her.

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>>2306605
Did you watch the show? Papika and Cocona are equals, but flawed in their own ways. They need each other to balance out their faults.

Papika is pretty much the brawn to Cocona's brains.

Yayaka offers nothing. She was a jealous spy who when treated lashed out. Keep your autistic crack ship theories to yourself please.

>>2306613
Except Cocona was never particularly smart while Papika was an incredibly quick and intuitive learn that was good at thinking on her feet and figuring things out on the fly. She was the brawns and brains, and also the experience, and the sensitivity and the initiative and the repose. She practically carried Cocona along the adventure all while attending to the insecure girl's every whim and need. It only took her about 3 episodes to learn how to be just the right amount of pushy to get Cocona to go along with her but not come off as smothering.
Meanwhile Cocona could tie the school uniform's bow kinda well. What a skill, Papika probably just didn't give enough of a fuck about the uniform to bother. She was in school for Cocona, not for any other reason.

You see where I'm going with this? Papika is like this heaven-sent dreamgirl that's endlessly capable, strongly independent, practically flawless and also just happens to be totally in love with this shy, helpless loser girl. Where's that agency of Cocona's there? She says yes and her pet does. She says no and her pet gives her the puppy dog eyes until she says yes.

>>2306605
I really don't think that's correct at all. Just look at the Ed, look at the progression of the times they ride the hoversurfboard together. The show is about Cocona gradually catching up to Papika and becoming an equal partner in the end. At the climax of episode 13 Papika tries to Bubble Cocona out of PI to save her and take on Mimi alone but Cocona breaks out and chooses to stay, ending up in Salt's PI instead. It's pretty telling that the series last shot is not Papika "babying" Cocona, it is Cocona choosing to show affection instead.

Papika has serious flaws in the beginning as well, she has poor social skills, a poor concept of boundaries, she's rash to the point of suicidal, has poor communication skills and finds it difficult to see things from anyone else's perspective. (A major theme of the series). She's by no means perfect and improves herself over the course of the series just like the other two.

Even if a fic or fanart gives Cocona control in a relationship with Yayaka it still doesn't change how contrary to her character the relationship is.

>>2306620
I think you are taking episode 4 as the only example of the different strengths and weaknesses of our main characters and that is a mistake.
Episode 6 the main decisions are Cocona's, if in the same position in episode 5 Yayaka would not have been able to shake Papika out of the loop if that was her option, episode 7 is Cocona driven, episode 8 is at least equally Cocona driven, episode 9 is balanced with Cocona getting the shard first, breaking the trap and unsuccessfully fending off Yayaka ect. A good deal of the show was more balanced than Papika dragging Cocona along as in the beginning.

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>>2306620
Papika is far from perfect and that's why I like her as a character. She loves Cocona so much, and wants to show her that every chance she gets, but she's clumsy at first and is pretty much over-barring to the point of annoyance. She changes over the course of the show to give Cocona room, to not just smother her.

Cocona on the other had is smart enough to handle everyday problems while still "trying" to deal with growing up. No one is perfect right of the gate, it takes time and effort to become a better person (Which Cocona did).

They're not Omnipotent super being, but they're a team, and they work well together.

>>2306626
I love every frame of that sequence.

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>>2306629
It's honestly one of the cutest scenes I've witnessed.

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>>2306629
I go back and look at my screencaps of it whenever I need to immediately improve my mood.
This is what happiness looks like.

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Better late than never, I guess

Just finished the show, I was kinda surprised at how obvious the /u/ was. Pleasantly surprised, mind you. I'm kinda confused about the senpai episodes and the ending tho. Was the change good? Did they finally get out?

>>2306878
Senpai changed for the better. It was intentionally misleading; at first it seemed like she gave up painting and became a whole different person, which made Cocona feel like they'd fucked up bigtime and fueled her doubts about PI and Flip Flap. The ending shows that she didn't give up painting after all, so really she just gained a social life in addition to what she already did.

And the hoverboard scene at the end was meant to indicate that they made it back to the real world. They never brought the hoverboard with them to PI, so seeing it was supposed to be proof that they were back to the real.

>>2306891
Ah neat! Thanks for pointing it out! I'm honestly considering rewatching just because I keep missing these details

>>2306954
If you are re-watching for details there is actually quite a bit.
For example, that one clock tower exists in the city. There are several other landmarks also appear in PI as well.

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>>2306954
>>2307225
Seemingly meaningless details have a lot more impact with the foreknowledge of latter events. Like the time Papika states that Cocona has a similar scent to the fragments. In episode 1 no less. Really makes you appreciate the writing/narrative that much more.

>>2307260
There's also the scene in episode 1 where Bu-chan's divine rods leads him to Cocona's leg while he's looking for the fragment.

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I feel like Bu-chan was underappreciated. He was a great wing man.

>>2307261
Actually hadn't noticed. Thanks, anon.

>>2307225
>>2307260
>>2307261
Thank you for pointing them out! Also, in that ep with the school of /u/, thoughts on it?

>>2307266
Also fellow fan of /u/ I might add

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Holy fuck, sou took my request.
>ヤヤカ最も甘いのクリームボックス(ココナ)食べる

I wanted the eating to be lewd, but I'm still glad my request got through and I got to make the stupid innuendo.

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>>2308397
Is Cocona still this tight?

>>2308440
People have speculated that she is probably not a masturbator and is very small. There are probably other factors that you can glean from the anime, but I'm not an expert on that.

But that picture was for another request as well, which asked for a picture of PaCoYa's first night.
>パコヤ初夜お願いします

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Aggressive Cocona is also good.

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>>2308446
I was bit surprised at how much aggressive Cocona art there is, mainly because I misinterpreted Yayaka's character as someone who would definitely dominate Cocona in a relationship.

>>2308449
Cocona teased a few flashes of her more forward side throughout the show and it was just enough to know there was definitely something strong and aggressive there and make people want more of it.

Plus her design just goes so well with dom

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>>2308455
True.

>>2308449
Well, everyone has met Mimi now. There is a tendency to assume, "like mother, like daughter" even when real life should tell you that doesn't happen.
I don't think there is much question who was the lead in bed between Mimi and Salt.

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>>2308459
>who was the lead in bed between Mimi and Salt
Obluguatory

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Stay in the realm of shit fanart yayakuk's. You'll never touch the Coconuts.

>>2308464
I felt the obvious parallels between Salt and Mimi's relationship and Cocona and Papika's relationship were in service of solidifying the yuri so I'm not into that idea. The show really doesn't support it at all anyways.

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>>2308973

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The only change in ep 7

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>>2309181
A fair amount of rework in the photography department. Just one example.

>>2309183
Brightness fixes this time improve viewing experience a lot.

Full album http://imgur.com/a/1CTmK

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>>2309185
Forgot pic

>>2309181
BD release where?

Is-is Papika legit autistic?

>>2310092
I think it's just simple mental retardation, partially caused by the fucked up environment she was brought up in.

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>>2310092
Are-are you?

>>2310131
Don't be silly, Anon.
It's 4chan. Literally everyone here is a closet autist.

>>2309935
I'm glad to see they're still having adventures together.

>>2310352
Japari Park is a PI. You are entering the animals umwelt.

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I'm surprised nobody posted vol.6 coverart yet. Do you even flip flap?

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>>2310847

>>2310847
lovely

I don't mind the crack ships, but it does annoy me that it gets more cute images than the canon pairing.

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>>2311758
I mean, I prefer YayaCoco because I simply like Yayaka a lot more than Papika, not because Yayaka lost, or that it's a crack/underdog ship or whatever.

The artists, I guess, draw YayaCoco for either or both reasons.

>Pure Tsunderation

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>>2311764

>>2311758
Yayaka is simply the best character in the series. Also the nature of her relationship with Cocona allows more room for exploration in fanfic and fanart.

>>2311758
It can't be helped. Yayaka is a fan favourite, and for good reason. Cocona gets paired with her just by virtue of being the MC. Papika is a miracle, but she didn't end up as popular with the artists so there's just less art involving her than there is involving Cocona and Yayaka.

I can't really blame them. As much as I like Papika, Yayaka's character arc was really strong and it's no surprise that made her a favourite.

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I still remember someone here complaining 2 or 3 threads ago that Yayaka got all the good artists.

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>>2311779

>>2311758
I agree with you completely.

>>2311758
>I don't mind non-canon ships
ftfy

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>>2311767
Can't tell if indoctrinated or born with less brain cells.

>>2312158
She is a more fleshed out and better written character than Papika. Nobody will dispute that Papika won the Coconuts, but that doesn't make her a better character.

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>>2312176
>More fleshed out
She ate bread and whined about how no one ever listened to her.

What an amazing character.

>>2312187
That's extremely relatable.

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>>2312265
Cocona's character was wayyyy more relatable then Yayaka's ever could be.

Yayaka was a plot device nothing more, nothing less.

>>2312273
This. It's like they wrote Cocona's character first then decide to write a second character around Cocona. What chemistry? Yayaka doesn't have any personality beyond "muh cocona".

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>hating on best girl YYK
Stop

>>2313754
Shame Yayaka never had the ovarian fortitude to actually DO that in the story. Things might have been different.

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>>2313770
SHE WAS SO CLOSE

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>>2313770
>>2313785
She got close, but she wasn't strong enough to "close".

Poor girl never had a chance. She didn't know what she had until it friendzoned her.

>>2312187
Yayaka was conflicted between choosing to be with the girl she loved and having a place she thought she would be accepted.
Yeah, actually very relatable.

Meanwhile Papika's who role in the story was a walking "magical girlfriend" trope

>>2313814
I still remember Yayaka saying she wanted to make the world a place where nobody would have to hurt or something like that. Fate/Zero Kiritsugu-level shit. But she was too weak to do anything herself, so she left that responsibility to something bigger than herself, that seemed to think in line with herself: Asclepius.

>>2313814
>conflicted between choosing to be with the girl she loved and having a place she thought she would be accepted.
It never really occurred to me how relatable this could be to some people. Damn.

Though I guess that's part of what makes Papika such appealing wish-fulfillment. She stormed out of the only place she could ever call home without a moment's hesitation for the sake of the person she cared about, and found her way in the world despite the difficulties she faced. There's something really alluring about that confident independence that's almost unreal, which is part of why it's so hard to not like her.

>>2313796
That sad PPK at the top right though.

>>2313832
It's amusing.

Apparently this was drawn by fuckin' drawfag. I wasn't there when it was made though.

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>>2313814
She never "loved" Cocona. She thought of her as someone who could be her friend. She never once in the show said that she loved Cocona.

You're trying to rewrite the character to be something she was not. It's honestly a bit sad.

>>2313848
Where do you think we are?

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>>2313850
Surrounded by waifufags?

I mean delusional Yayakuk's? My bad.

>>2312176
It is actually a pretty low bar to be a better character than Papika.

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>>2313878

>>2313848
between the three of them the nature of Yayaka's feelings, love or friendship/ a place to belong are definitely the most ambiguous. Fear of loosing her closest friend could just as easily explain Yayaka's actions as fear of an unrequited love, especially given her age.

That Cocona sees Yayaka as a friend and loves Papika and that Papika loves Cocona are pretty much indisputable though.

It took me longer than it should have to figure out ココナ wears a hairclip shaped like a コ.

>>2313952
I think it's just shaped like a hairclip, anon.

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>>2314145
>She never once in the show said that she loved Cocona.

Point stands. You can look into the language of flowers all you want. Actions speak louder than flowers.

>>2311758
>but it does annoy me that it gets more cute images than the canon pairing.
This happens in a lot of series, for better or worse.

Yayaka was probably the most popular character from the show, and so regardless of canon she's going to be seen the most. Doesn't help (or I suppose it does) that there was a love triangle, and so those who want to ship her with CCN can do so pretty easily.

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Ayane has a real fetish for older women. They even did that 2-part Madoka doujin with Mami x Office Lady, which was pretty good.

And chalk that up as two more girls Cocona would date before Yayaka: the nurse and Sayuri.

>>2314174
Yes, she never said that she loved her, and that's partly why she lost her to Papika. But that's not proof that she never loved her.

I don't see why this is such a problem, I don't think it lessens Cocona x Papika in any way. In the end Papika is still the victor.

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>>2314374
Her Sayurilust is canon.
Cocona is basically a horny, pent-up teenage boy and older women are their collective weakness.

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Yayaka is a good girl, but she just cannot compete with Papika perfection

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>>2314390
Can you imagine how much that must suck. Here's this happy, wonderful life with a girl you love that you could have lived, but too bad because somebody literally perfect actually existed and just so happened to decide to make the person you love her girltoy. Like, it would be one thing if Yayaka lost fair and square, but it wasn't even a competition. It was just a massacre. How is any girl supposed to stand a chance against this?

One day Papika will get bored of Cocona, and then she'll come after your waifu next. Then will you understand. The hopelessness, the futile rage-- you just can't fight perfection.

It's human nature to root for the underdog. Some people literally can't help being Yayafags or Tamaofags, it's in their DNA

>>2314397
I'd hate to be one of those poor souls.

>>2314391
>Here's this happy, wonderful life with a girl you love that you could have lived
This is such a bizarre way of thinking of Cocona and Yayaka's relationship in the beginning of the show.

Cocona was pretty depressed/conflicted and Yayaka did nothing. In fact, Yayaka chose amorphous over her relationship to Cocona. As a character you don't just choose something over the person you theoretically care about most and then expect to win her in the end (I think Yayaka probably realized this since she seemed to back down after 9).

Yayaka got better of course and that's part of her character arc in 12.

Meanwhile Papika had devotion to Cocona since she was born. The puppy deserves Cocona.

>>2315238
I agree, and I still really like Yayaka.

>>2315238
I think it's more that Yayaka valued her life over love.

Yayaka and Papika have the same origins. They were raised by, and worked for, a secretive organization that told them to hang out with a blue-haired girl.
One befriended the girl while the other fell in love, but they dealt with the situation in opposite ways.

Yayaka knew how powerful Asclepius was and feared their strength enough that she felt it would be in her best interest to obey them. That if she showed her allegiance to them that she would find safety on the winning side.

Papika, on the other hand, always did what she wanted regardless of what any authority demanded of her, and betrayed the organization to help her friend.
She ultimately did the same for the girl she loved as well.

tl'dr Yaya was a coward.

>>2315238
I'm not sure if your reading comprehension is poor or if you're just triggered. They key qualifier in the post you're responding to is 'could have lived,' not 'was living.'

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YYKCCN OTP still tho

Childhood is liking a redemption arc like YYK's.

Adulthood is realizing that someone outside of society's clutches, living free as an individual like PPK is better.

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Cocona belongs to Papika

Yayaka belongs to pervy women like Sayuri or dumb lolis like Nyunyu

>>2315347
Maybe Papika could share?

>>2315356
That defeats the point of she winning fairly.

>>2315356
>Waits nearly 15 years to finally get together with Cocona
>Doesn't want the girl all to herself
She deserves to have Cocona alone.

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>>2315362
>She deserves to have Cocona alone.
Exactly

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>>2315356
No.

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Not only is YYK my favorite character and I ship YayaCoco, I also liked Flip Flappers' OP more than I liked the ED. I have the shittiest taste.

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>>2315375

>>2315375
>I also liked Flip Flappers' OP more than I liked the ED
Unforgivable

>>2314391
>One day Papika will get bored of Cocona
Please, Papika has been in love with Cocona ever since she first changed her diapers.

>>2316213
You sure it wasn't when she caught her head coming out of Mimi's vagina? At the very latest it was when she cut the umbilical cord.

>>2317255
As far as I'm concerned, Papika fell in love with Cocona the second she met Mimi.

>>2317255
>cut
>not chewed
Please, imouto-chan. I bet you think she didn't eat the placenta afterwards, either.

>>2320499
wow, that's fantastic work

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>>2320499

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>>2322816

>Yayaka's forced smile

Will we get anymore official illustrations? This could be the last one...

>>2322928
>forced
That's the happiest she's ever looked. The only time she ever gave a similar smile was when she and Cocona started connecting as friends when they were kids.

Yayaka accepts and supports her friend's happiness. Why can't you?

so what was the point of Nyunyu

>>2322950
Nothing. They fucked up.

>>2322950
Because the show invested a lot of effort to undermine the idea of 'growing up' being some kind of straight line progression that Cocona had to follow or else. What better way to undermine themes of adulthood and maturity than by including a loli in a G-string

>>2322950
I've read that it was a red herring disguised as a Chekhov's gun, and her gun parodied the Chekhov's gun.

Otherwise, no fucking clue.

>>2305296
thank you for translating this. i'm not really a fan of giantess stuff but it's still great to see Flip Flapper doujins getting some attention.

>>2322991
There's like a single page of giantess lewd. Most of what goes on is just nudity with the normal-sized characters with some erotic kissing at the end.

>>2322978
>>2322950
I like the idea of her being Hyperart Thomasson in character form. Fits that theme pretty well.

>>2322937
This. Yayaka is at peace with herself and can enjoy her friends' happiness without jealousy or fear getting in the way.

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>>2305884

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>A YayaCoco a day keeps the damn nurse away

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PapiYaya is good too.

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But why?

>>2326308
because she knows Cocona loves someone else.

>>2326454
Mimi also loves someone else.

>>2326308
Why not?

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>>2329723

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New art by the director of the show

Flip Flappers: Shoujo edition

>>2330471
that Uexkull is the scariest thing

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>>2330490
Check the directors twitter for scary.

>>2330502
What is Papikana doing to that young girl?

>>2330471
>that PPK
Need it

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The swimsuit episode needs more fanart.

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>>2330924
>Dat YYK on top

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Hype is bad, but I'm now I'm kinda hoping this guy drops something like a 72-page ヤヤココ epic at C92.

>>2332690

Damnit Cocona, don't get all hot and bothered, she only wants your fragment!

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Would you rather be Cocona and have Papika as your husband or be Papika and have Cocona as your wife?

>>2332856
I would like to be their daughter.

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BD fixes, ep 9

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BD fixes, ep 10: just a re-render of a CG scene. They seem to like re-rendering particles.

>>2334735
Those are actual changes but the rest weren't. MPEG2 compression for TV broadcasts does weird things to fast moving scenes with washed out colors in explosions and some image blending in fight scenes (two characters exchanging blows for example). The BDs of course have better conversation. >me who has experience encoding TV streams

>>2334738
>conversion*
Dammit, auto-correct

>>2334738
TV source is Crunchyroll. So no, blending is not from encoding.
Washed out color is for epilepsy prevention.

>>2334744
Epilepsy prevention? Very interesting and make sense if I think about it.

>>2334745
The great porygon seizure episode in Japan, at least that is what I think is why modern TV broadcast of anime has the epilepsy prevention.

>>2334746
Yeah I saw that episode. I'm not epileptic but I can sense the flashes can cause harm

>>2334734
That scene with the robots and of injured Yayaka is from ep 10
Or is that supposed to be from the next ep preview?

>>2334747
Relatively few people are photosensitive, but I'm mildly amused that you're expected you just take your chances with BDs.

>>2334814
ok i'll fix that

Jesus, do I need to rewatch this series? I remember a big reason I didn't like it as much as I wanted to was because Yayaka was there. I didn't like her at all. I'm shocked to learn she's so popular.

>>2335949
Anon always loves the stray dog.

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So this is interesting, it looks like the skull was indeed a reference to an illusion (probably the vanity skull).

Also if I took pictures of the (pretty long) article/interview here would anyone even be interested in reading it, let alone translating it? ;_;

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>>2335949
The show is really good regardless of Yayakuk.

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Not really a /u/ thing but my vol. 5 has arrived yesterday, and I was looking through the booklet and holy shit, mind fucking blown.

The snow tree slugs from episode 1 are actually larvae of an insect.

The wasps from the end of episode 13 are imago (adult form) of the same organism.

This was heavily hinted with all the henshin symbolism and Salt studying larvae, and nobody here figured it out.

This fucking show.

>>2336599
You can make it a /u/ thing if you take it as an analogy about the love between Papika & Cocona and how it developed throughout the show until the end.

>>2336599
fantastic.

>>2336599
>Not really a /u/ thing
Flip flap is a /u/ thing though. So anything flip flapping goes to /u/ if not /a/.

>>2336347
The skull is an optical illusion from the get go. It is intended as a starting example in the whole "lecture" about the significance of subjectivity in human and animal perception and how it leads to the philosophical concept of Pure Illusion. That's right, Pure Illusion is an actual theory by psychoanalyst Shu Kishida referenced in the book Oshiyama had read.

>>2336599
Post the rest of the booklet please?

>>2336599
>Tons of thought put into even minor aspects of the show
>Fails, sales wise and nowhere near as loved as it should be

two bombs weren't enough

What are the odds of Flip Flappers getting an official western release of the blu rays?

>>2338155

Pretty big. In fact, a dub is very likely, because Sentai keeps hyping it up.

>>2338222
I'd watch a dub of flip flappers. I know it will be awful but fuck, I'll take anything at this point.

>>2338339
Plus, if it sells well in the west it will make up for the poor Japanese sales.

>>2338339
>I know it will be awful but fuck, I'll take anything at this point.
Not necessarily.
But nothing will beat Papika's Japanese voice

>>2338359
MAO was pretty fantastic, especially in episode 7.

>>2338222
>>2338339
>"Is this a typo?"
>"Is what a typo?"
>"This whole page and a half just seems to be us repeating each other's name"
>"No, that's correct"

>>2338707
that is every anime

>>2338342
It didn't sell well? I'm surprised. I didn't watch the show but I was under the impression that it was relatively popular. Is Japan going through magical girl fatigue?

>>2338713
I loved Frip Frap but I think it's a bit obvious that they did it more than the usual show

>>2338723
>Is Japan going through a magical girl fatigue
Likely, though that wouldn't affect this show too much since it wasn't advertised as mahou shoujo.

The show had a small, vocal fanbase. It was well-liked but didn't get much exposure and didn't win the wallets of its fans over other things airing the same season. These things happen.

>>2338809
it was barely advertised at all and part of the problem was that what little it got sold it as a normal mahou shoujo so fans going in expecting that were confused when the show asked them to research / use their brains a little to connect with it.

The director just literally confirmed the matricide theme in the interview. Wow, My guesses were just too educated.

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>>2339507

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>>2339511

>>2338979
>The director just literally confirmed the matricide theme in the interview
Link to the interview/a translation?

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>>2339595
>Koburo: In the final stage of the series, the proportion of mothers' desire to "make my daughter as you want" occupies a larger proportion in the story, but how do you think about this?
>
>Oshiyama: I wanted to do "Hansel and Gretel" through "Furifura". It is a kind of growing story. I want to have a so-called "mother killing" as a metaphor of killing mothers - killing witches and growing and peeling off children. So when I finally fought against witches, it was necessary that Mimi existed in the place where there was only a mother who could become a witch. I will do "Hansel and Gretel" with this work, it is showing from one episode using ending.
>
>Koburo: I was a little worried that the desire of my mother's "I want my child to do what I want" in my work was really contemporary and vivid.
>
>Oshiyama: (bitter smile). That was the only thing you had to stuff in the second half. Recent viewers have heard many stories saying that they do not want such heavy stories so much, so the first half will continue lightly talking numbers, shifting to the main story after the ninth episode. Considering that kind of configuration, there was not much ruler in the second half, so I was in a state of crisis as I could not draw it so slowly.

>>2339595
https://boards.fireden.net/a/search/text/matricide/

The word "matricide" in flip flap threads. It was all me.

>>2339669
>>2339673
Interesting read

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Live-action reenactment of the entirety of Flip Flappers.

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>>2348012

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>>2348013

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PPK is love

>>2349442
CUTE! CUTE! CUTE! CUTE! CUTE! CUTE! CUTE! CUTE! CUTE! CUTE! CUTE! CUTE! CUTE! CUTE!

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My AnimeStyle has just arrived. Didn't read it yet, but they chose the best screenshots for Flip Flappers.

>>2349819
OCR: https://pastebin.com/raw/BM1BB7wf

>>2349819
Neat

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>>2350023
God bless you, thank you.

Is this the last flip flap thread?

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>>2352595
Possibly.

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>>2352595
I will miss you all. Even the yayakuks.

>>2352595
Still waiting to see detailed comparisons for the final BD release. There was a tonne of stuff that could benefit from fixing and I'm curious to see what got fixed and what didn't.

There's at least 1 more thread left in us.

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>>2352595
I certainly hope not. Though it'd be hard to maintain a new thread to reach bump limit because fan art has slowed down and no other media to talk about. But I do hope we'll get more doujins (especially YYKCCN) and more groups translating them.

If this anime is too niche, I may devote my time translating the doujins. Aikatsu and Flip Flappers under my belt will be nice. 8/u/ greatly helped, by the way.

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I hope anon comes back and posts the comparisons for the last three episodes.

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Ep. 11, changes in special effects.

The first is the re-rendered sunset. It's a subtle scene and they made subtle changes. Very subtle. So, first, they made the lens flare less obvious. Second, there was some flickering during the final moment before the sun finally sinks below horizon while in the new scene the flickering was removed. I personally like the flickering version and am ok with the new rendering.

The second sequence is the heat wave special effect.

There was also some camera shaking effect being removed during a previous scene, which I didn't bother to capture.

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>>2353252
Color changes in the preview for ep 12.

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Specials from v6.

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>>2353259
And this was /a/'s (also /u/'s) special for Oshiyama.

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Ep. 12.

The first sequence. Recoloring/shadowing.

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>>2353296
Shards should glow.

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>>2353301
Additional motion blur and camera shaking.

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>>2353303
Lighting and shadowing.

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>>2353306
Papika's face - the first serious redraw.

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>>2353309
Lighting/shadowing.

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>>2353314
Changed camera panning speed. Also discovered that burning smoke should be black. That yellow "smoke" would be some sand tornado.

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>>2353316
Fixing fine details in the eyes.

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>>2353319
Smoke be black.

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>>2353321
Consistency of the shadow under hair. Either always having it or always not. The TV version sometimes had it and sometimes not. BD removed it all together.