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Kindered Spirits on the Roof - Okujou no Yurirei-san

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Previous thread: >>2170385

http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=165
http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=0&product_code=174

http://store.steampowered.com/app/402620/
http://store.steampowered.com/bundle/1102/

https://www.amazon.com/Kindred-Spirits-Roof-Complete-Collection/dp/1626924686

>OST
http://pastebin.com/YN35LL1A >link dead
https://mega.nz/#!QZlxgZzL!ptKCKs5pRGe-jXYStyem-_dQHfeb673r5ZEmgafnlkA

>[ライアーソフト][120330]Yurirei_MedioDrama
https://mega.nz/#!BNkBTIxY!P2YiRE-qLS1dOg9WOzrzPJ_4jD5_UOD26LBHoPdKWrE

>A.A.Ai
https://mega.nz/#!1gZhjJiA!tnrWe9kh_p5yse-8T1X5V5m9UjKRiS_XsmwU1loJME0
lossless: https://mega.nz/#!tV8CGYLD!sUaV1GLP7aBJZb657jU0cpdP5II7HFmVd4U2_JTYL98

>Drama CD
1-3: https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=726922
4: https://mega.nz/#!yBl2wKqa!C3r0iUIwWOIl9yG2kLVZ16O2FIKRPDgElLnXuO0QW40

>Official Manga Spinoff RAW - Side A by Itou Hachi
http://www.mediafire.com/download/odn2vq8nizt6ju2

>Official Manga Spinoff RAW - Side B by Fumio Aya
http://www.mediafire.com/download/x7bnfdgwmxxn488

>Character Sprites complete set
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r8y8flwj2j2a0/Kindred_Spirits

>"Official" Doujins
http://www.mediafire.com/download/y1tafgaejnddehh/Yurirei_Doujin_1.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4g8459k7kdcnsn2/Yurirei_Doujin_2.zip
>Sasa/Umi doujin RAW: [YAMAGIRL] friendsick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pzxm6tnn4piadbx/friendsickjpg%28ĆČ%29.rar

>Translated Drama CDs 1-3 (screen capture from Steam), x265, 535MB:
https://mega.nz/#F!Q5NnxBCL!gSCAcBTq-nVG2Bhd5kqM5g

>Translated Director ToiTentsu's tweet
http://lion-sensei.tumblr.com/post/144125939981/
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So, when is someone going to scanlate those doujins?
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>>2273371
The Complete Collection has both Side A and Side B right?
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>>2273441
Yes.
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>>2273407
at least they were translated

>Natsu Recipe (Official Doujin Vol.1)
http://imgur.com/a/9Ojah

>Aki Recipe (Official Doujin Vol.2)
http://imgur.com/a/JHVVB
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>>2273512
The second manga got edited
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/recipes_for_two
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>>2273371
>Translated Drama CDs 1-3 (screen capture from Steam)
You should've updated that:
>I replaced the MEGA folder with 3 CDs from Steam with 4+1 CDs from YouTube.
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So I just finished the main story. Are the apples worth reading at all?
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>>2273712
Of course you should. It is a solid amount of story.
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I wonder why this series is so popular in the west compared to Japan. I think its pretty well regarded there but here its considered the premier Yuri title.
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>>2273777
Because nips hate gays.
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>>2273777
We just don't have tons of Yuri games to enjoy.
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>>2273785
Neither do they.
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>>2273785
>We just don't have tons of Yuri games to enjoy.

Plus catchy slogan
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>>2273777
Japan has shit taste, plain and simple.
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>>2273804
We have much fewer.
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>>2273806
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>>2273512
>She got a driver’s license because she wanted an ID that would prove her age, but driving just agreed with her and she drives a lot now.
Classic
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>>2273872
>Countries that don't issue an ID to all its citizens
I'll never understand how this is still a thing in this day and age.
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I just finished this earlier today and now I feel dead inside.
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>>2274469
You didn't like it?
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>>2274473
I loved it so much that it being over killed me.
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>>2274475
I know exactly how you feel, sister.
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>>2274475
Did you listen to the drama CDs and read the doujins and manga yet?
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I tried to scale up liar fc magazine sample from https://www.liar.co.jp/fc.html with waifu2x. result is not bad
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>>2275236
another one from here http://www.liar.co.jp/fanonly.html
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>>2275236
>>2275240
Fuck these are cute. Thanks for sharing anon.
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>>2275236
>Sachi/Megumi doing cute things together and dressing up in matching outfits

Why must they hurt me so. They're ghosts. They can't do that.
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>>2275298
They can if they want to. They're ghosts. They don't need to make sense.
They got Yuna and Hina to dress up in the outfits, possessed them, and now they can wear them too because they've had the experience of wearing them.
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>>2275467
That's not how it works. They wear their own clothes when they possess someone.
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>>2275468
They still don't need to make sense.
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I bought the book but have not played the vn yet I really liked the couple in the first story but I find they are not in the vn?

boo....
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>>2275907
Play the VN asap. If you liked the first story of the manga you'll definitely love the game since it is like a super long and detailed version covering a ton of other great couples. You'll also enjoy the cameo appearances you didn't catch in the manga.
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>>2275236
>tfw you will never see a meido-Yuna
>>2275298
They are not normal ghosts, they're yuri ghosts
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>>2275907
>bought the book
What book are you talking about?
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>>2276648
>https://www.amazon.com/Kindred-Spirits-Roof-Complete-Collection/dp/1626924686
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Nearing the end of the game, it's getting really fucking tiring seeing Yuuna keep talking about Hina when I wanted Ano the entire time, guess this is the life of a Tomatofag.
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Thank god she fell in love with Youka I don't think anyone else would be able do deal with her dumbness
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>>2277290
It's your fault for not conforming to the canon.
Don't worry. After you're done there are some extra scenes with AnoYuna degeneracy.
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>>2277326
I need moar art of these two! They're too fucking cute!
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>>2277328
Yup they're my favorite thus far, does anyone have the chart with the tiers, I wanna see how my tastes compare.
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>>2277290
Yeah, and there just as fucking annoying.
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Fucking dorks I swear
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>>2277334
Yeah those two are the best. In the apple scenes you get even more Aki to enjoy, and she muses to herself that she might have fallen in love with Yuna had Youka not shown up first. That seems like something i would enjoy too, but maybe I'm alone on that.
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>>2277332
I don't have a chart, but I have some more art.
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>>2277290
Why would you want Ano?
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>>2275971
Now I want fanart of the yuri ghosts fighting Space Ghost
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So I made this version of the soundtrack for myself, it's basically the one on the OP but un-mojibaked (that is, it is properly named and has all the metadata).

I based the order on the in-game player order, instead of the Drama CD order (they all have the same content, but the order is slight different and I included all the no-vocal versions)

https://mega.nz/#!6dImiQrC!fViRCVeKxa3_B1hC-YZNUqk2XNhgJQOnzvDO0CfSutQ

Oh, and the OP link for the translated drama CDs is wrong, since it has all 4 CDs and isn't x265.
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>>2277334
Youka forgetting she's gay in the middle of having sex with another women just cracks me up.
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>>2278022
Nice meme, did the funnel web spoidah bite you?
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>>2278163
Thank you!
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So, who's the second cutest girl according to Kiri? Is it Maki? Why didn't she say it?
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>>2278769
It's Ano, then Hina IIRC. Didn't you read through the apples?
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>>2278769
Its Ano the Princess of whatever
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>>2278774
>>2278775
I tought she said Ano as an excuse to not say the actual person, guess I'm reading too much into it, also on the Ano topic I bet she and Yuna fuck on a daily basis when Yuna gets tired of Hina's midget body.
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>>2278775
That's Princess Fuji of Shirojo to you.
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>>2273777
What series are popular in Japan?
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>>2278778
Ano is not for gay. She's pure.
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>>2278778
Hina is way better then Ano in any way.

And guess what? Its the canon route. So while Ano gets married and has kids, she'll be in eternal suffering while Hina and Yuna are together forever.
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>>2279180
What is the third one?
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>>2279201
I was hoping you'd tell me.
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>>2279180
That's really cute. While they are the worst couple, I still really like them, which tells alot about the quality of the game.
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>>2279248
You seriously think they're worse than the senpai couple?
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>>2279201
>>2279246
Mahou shoujo ikusei keikaku/Magical girl raising project.
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>>2279249
Way worse. They actually dealt with real problems. Sensei and Kirri? Something about sparking skin, and statutory rape
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>>2279255
>social views of homosexuality is not a real issue
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>>2279255
Well yeah, but the senpai couple are fucking idiot morons who almost broke up because of a fight that shouldn't have even lasted a week. That said, Sensei and Kiri are the second worst couple.
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>>2279262
KirixTsukuyo >MakixWhat's her face > Senpais

Maki is one of my favorites but that girl I can't remember the name can't save it
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>>2279287
What fucking bullshit. Ahiria-Senpai.

Go jump in a hole and fucking die. Best couple.
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>>2279287
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>>2279331
>numerous secret missions of the beautification comitee
>over 300 confirmed confessions

I laughed
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>>2279287
MakixMiki. it's like the easiest to remember, but I can't remember who's who
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>>2278902
sono hana, Flowers
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>>2279355
I'm fond of flowers, but Sono is pure garbage.
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>>2279371
It's yuri nukige. Nothing more, nothing less
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>>2279348
Maki's name is actually Seina.
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>>2279394
Yeah, but Maki x Miki just goes together in my head easier.
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>>2279355
the Le volume sur printemps Flowers? Thank you by the way.
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>>2279656
Probably the series as a whole since 3 out of 4 are already available in Japan with winter scheduled for sometime this year (inb4 winter).
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I want to see Hina drawn as a slav. She already has the tracksuit, all she needs to do now is squat while holding a cigarette and a bottle of vodka. Calling Aki a cyka blyat optional.
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>>2280888
Make a request in the drawthread.
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>>2280888
Aki is not cyкa, cyкa.
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>>2281213
That anon probably don't know that with great cheeki comes great breeki
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>>2281213
No, but she is an authority figure, one likely to be disrespected by Russian delinquents.
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Aki is that one Dutyer who sneaks off to roll joints with a Freedom buddy every time there's a ceasefire.
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>>2281283
She is quickly joining Freedom for Youka.

One of my favorite CGs from the game.
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>>2282979
Now I'm imagining a Strange Magnet spinoff where the band has to make lesbian couples fuck to the sound of their music to appease the lesbian rock gods, all while discovering love themselves.
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>>2283004
But there aren't any. I mean, Freddy Mercury (The queen of rock) was gay, but he's still a man.
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>>2283047
It doesn't have to be a real person unless KS was actually a historical retelling of true events.
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>>2283047
Wasn't he actually bi?
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>>2283004
I very much doubt all of them are gay. There's only that one who likes to have all the ladies that we know.

>>2283047
Don't forget about Elton John.
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>>2283325
>>2283059
I'm pretty sure that he at least had a preference for men.
>>2283057

I'd say that Freddy would probably want them to help with relationships in general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quMlRhlVR3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlIw1kZRZoU
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Why are you talking about irrelevant men?
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>>2283645
Irreverent men that Youka worships like gods! There just barely outclassed by her goddess
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>>2273777

The writing is better than most translated VNs. Particularly the erotic scenes. It's not just a bunch of huffing and gibberish. But even in the day to day stuff, it seems the writing really focuses on the human aspect of the characters and how a normal human would react to situations, instead of just slapping a scene together like most VNs do.

In other words, the core writing itself is more in-tune with western styles than most translated VNs.

That's my take, anyway. I thought it was great all the way until the last parts when they started to finalize their goal, then it just got retarded in my opinion. But, I guess it's really hard to maintain that consistent level of realism given that the core of the plot is unreal by nature.
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>>2283784
DAMMIT! NOW I SEE IT! FUCK YOU FOR MAKING ME SEE THIS BULLSHIT!

>>2283645
Because Any time Youka (and Aki, to a slightly lesser extent now) is involved the Rock section of /mu/ is also involved? Most rockers are men, and all of the really good ones other than Joan Jett are men too.
Personally, I think that a doujin with Youka getting dating advice from Freddy would be amazing.
It then turned out that she was just listening to Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy (or similar) and was singing it in her sleep.
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>>2273371
I've discovered a problem with the MP4 containers of the translated Drama CDs from YouTube - those files weren't compatible with ffmpeg v3.2+ and any software based on it (including the latest release of MPC-HC). The files are now fixed, link is still the same:
https://mega.nz/#F!Q5NnxBCL!gSCAcBTq-nVG2Bhd5kqM5g
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>>2284050
>that doujin idea
cute, but there just need to be more Youka doujins in general.
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>>2284827
There needs to be more Kindred Spirits doujins in general.
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>>2284827
I forgot to add this when I posted it: She's also sleeping on Aki's lap the entire time and Aki's just sitting there petting Youka's head and enjoying every second of it.
If I could draw, I would make it. Unfortunately, I cannot draw (well, not humans at least. I can do vehicles and tools, though).
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>>2285006
You should draw every character as what tool they would be.
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>>2285027
That would be extraordinarily surreal, don't you think? And what would Freddy even be? A Microphone and stand?
(Youka would be a Guitar and Aki would be a Bass, I think, but it would still be really fucking weird.)
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>>2285041
Do it, Anon.
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>>2285041
If tools are too hard to think of you can make them into cars, or whatever vehicle you think would suit them.
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>>2285104
>Youka is decrepit shitstang/98 Civic, fitting her image as a struggling rock musician
>Aki would be 90s S-class. (overengineering and stuff)
>Hina is a Lada (because she's so slav)
>Yuna is a Tatra 603
>Ano is a Toyota Century/Crown

Can't think anything fitting Sachi, Megumi would fit with any Bosozoku styled vehicle
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>>2285104
But how would Youka sleep on Aki's lap, then? I mean, if they're a guitar and a bass then GuitarYouka's neck can rest on one of the crooks that are on the bodies of most guitars, but how would you do that with a vehicle?

Also, guys, I only have MS Paint and I don't have a scanner (so no using paper and pencil). I refuse to put out something with MS Paint, as it would look like shit and I refuse to make anything that is that bad. I could write up a script, if you really want me too, but someone else would have to draw it.
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>>2284050
>The ghost of Freddy Mercury giving Youka dating advice

Who do I pay for this?
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>>2285276
Give me some ideas as to what Youka's problems are, and I'll get to writing something. (Again, can't draw it.)
Would you like a script for a potential doujin or a fanfic?
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>>2285478
>>2285276
I haven't gotten the chance to finish their side story where Youka takes Aki to an instrument shop, and I've only now downloaded the Drama CDs by the way.
(I wanted to actually buy them, but I can do that later.)
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I just finished reading Another Yuritopia: Side A. Now I feel so giddy, especially at the end.
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Is the Japanese teacher from the last thread still around? Tomorrow is white day, and I want to know who they picked to give a return gift too.
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>>2287744
Hate to break it to you anon but in Japan it is already late morning of the 14th. If her choco isn't already in play then it is too late.
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>>2287749
we can still find out who she chose though
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>>2287750
Why wouldn't she choose both? Sensei is a good girl and deserves a harem.
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>>2287768
Harems aren't fun in real life. Do you remember School Days? That's how actual harems go(minus the killing, most of the time) if you aren't royalty/absurdly rich.
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I didn't like Yuna developing feelings for Hina.
The little sister role was enough for her, and she had close to no romantic chemistry with Yuna, especially since she feels like a child. I thought the whole thing between them felt forced.
Not that Ano would have worked any better, since she had no chemistry with Yuna either.

Yuna simply never got a proper love interest, which is a shame.
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>>2287834
Arguably depressed after being discouraged from her passion in life and practically a loner, Yuna went out of her way to spend time every day to stay invested in the life of Hina, made loving meals for Hina, and was supported and supported by Hina during the ups and downs of life. But you're right, no one likes stability in their romance. Why couldn't they give me more of that sweet sweet meet-cute instant gratification with no basis for a long term romance? Thank the fucking stars Kindred Spirits on the Roof was not written to your level of interest.
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>>2287999
Nice.
Though, you should have taken Yuuka aside during the after school thing instead of giving the truffles to her at the gate. That way during the day she would see that you'd given return chocolates to the other teachers and students who'd given you Valentines' Chocolate, but not her. She then thinks that you forgot, and then BAM! You do it in secret when no-one else is watching because it's DOUBLE forbidden love!
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>>2288006
aaaaaaa I should've planned things with you onee-sama~~

honestly when she was standing at the gate and I had the box in my hands I kinda panicked. Didn't expect to see her until later!
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>>2287834
Yuuna would've developed feelings for anyone who heard her life story, the little shit Hina just happened to be there because they imprisioned Ano the shadowrealm
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So I just read the manga, and I've got to say, I was a little disappointed, especially with Side B. Both stories felt rushed, but Side B I felt especially didn't really fit with the rest of the universe.

This is especially a problem as it contrasts poorly with a VN, which by nature is almost guaranteed to have significantly more development and character interactions. I could go more into detail, but I won't clog up this nice thread with anymore of my complaints if nobody wants to hear them.

I did still enjoy it, especially since I got it for only $14, I just wish that they devoted the entire volume to one story instead of cramming in two less than well-developed ones.
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>>2288007
You should have asked us for advice on how to do it leading up to the day. It would have been great. We could have drawn on our combined experience with yuri manga, anime, and games to make the best fucking White Day event ever.
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>>2287995
>>2287997
>>2287999
>>2288004
That was real sweet anon. Your choco looks delicious. Yuuka is in a tracksuit too? You should definitely find some quiet time to peel potatoes with her.
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>>2288026
I want to hear them. This is like the only post about the story I've seen so far.
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>>2288218
Okay, but I won't really go into any specific plot details as I'm feeling kind of lazy and I don't have the book on hand.

So, before the book came out, I read the beginning of Side A on Dynasty and thought it seemed like a nice enough yuri story. I liked the art and especially appreciated how the cameos meshed with the story. It was also pretty clear that the events of the story took place around a year after the VN.

The plot of Side A was, in my opinion, kind of cliche and generic, but as an english-only yuri connoisseur, I take what you can get, at least when reading stuff I don't pay for.

This leads to my major issue with Side A: it's just too short. The plot feels rushed, and the new characters feel underdeveloped, which I think is what leads to the author heavily leaning on established tropes and cliches. And I feel a great need to emphasize this issue as I feel like it has the same solution as all my problems with Side B: deleting Side B to make room for more Side A.

I have class soon, so I will try to post about Side B tonight.
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>>2288265
Side A was generic as fuck.
I liked Side B more.
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>>2288026
I thought it was no surprise Itou Hachi wanted to draw for it, given the main pairing of the tall, cool, brown-haired ponytail elder and short, cute, animal-eared younger. That's 90% of her works.

As for the content, I enjoyed it, but it was lacking in some of the ways you described.

>>2287999
>track suit
>thumbs up
Mm.

Thanks for sharing, Anon-sensei.
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cont. from >>2288265

Looking back, this reads like crap. So my apologies for that. I also ended up using spoilers (which I hope I didn't fuck up), though I don't think any are that huge.


Moving on to Side B, my first issue is the art style. I just don't like it, and I feel like it doesn't really match the art style of the VN as Side A does. This is very subjective of course, but I will try to justify bringing it up. I am bringing it up because when a character from the VN made a cameo in Side B, they were much less recognizable than in Side A. For example, I think the broadcasting club trio made a cameo towards the end, because I saw a panel with a group of three girls that resembled them. This example also highlights several other issues that I will talk about later.

to be continued
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cont. from >>2288431

Similarly to Side A, I thought the characters were underdeveloped. However, there is a significant factor that leads me to dislike Side B's story more than Side A's. That is, the plot of Side B features very little involvment from characters in the VN. One of the big reasons that I couldn't 100% confirm whether the broadcasting trio made a cameo was because they appeared for all of one panel. I think Tsukuyo, the teacher, actually had lines, but I believe she was the only character who did (and I feel like I may be mixing the stories up). This is a huge minus for me, as the main reason I bought the book is so I could see more interaction between characters I care about, and neither Sides made me care that much about the characters newly introduced in the manga. Side A however, has 2 characters from the VN at the center of the plot which then leads to interactions with several other members of the original cast. I don't understand why, when you are writing a short side story for an established IP with already well-developed characters, you wouldn't integrate at least a few of them closely into the plot. I think (but can't remember for sure) there were several other one frame cameos that just felt cheap and shoe-horned in.

to be continued
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cont. from >>2288433


As for the new characters, I wouldn't even call them generic. In my opinion, they were just not compelling at all. Two of the four main characters were pretty blatant self-inserts that had pretty much nothing going for them aside from being blatant self-inserts. I think one of them was supposed to be a kind of generic idiot-type while the other was supposed to be more bookish. The other two, the main couple, were generic super best friends with one being the outgoing doesn't-realize-she's-gay archetype and the other being the more subdued has-secretly-been-gay-for-awhile archetype. There were also these antagonist-like twins (who I think were just friends who dressed identically???) who I think were the main "conflict", but they were introduced 3/4 of the way through. Anyways, I do think all of these characters had at least some potential, but prevented any real growth from happening. Even with more space though, I didn't really like the set up of the character relationships (if that makes any sense), particularly the self-inserts.

to be continued
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cont. from >>2288435


As for the actual plot, to begin with, I was never really sure of the time frame in which it took place. I'm pretty certain it took place over several months, but I feel like the setting was never really established. I guess it took place several years after the VN (a big minus imo, for reasons stated above), as the broadcast trio appeared to have graduated when they showed up(?).

Like I said before, a big problem with Side B is the lack of screentime for the original cast. Additionally, the addition of new elements, such as the quiz club (or whatever it was called) and the reality TV show, that had, afaik, never been mentioned before only serve to distance the story from the VN, and not in a a good way. This is especially bad because these elements were not really explored at all or elaborated upon. For example, (and this may just be a cultural thing) I was left to wonder if all the quiz club did was train to try to appear on a jeopardy-like show or if they also trained for more conventional competitions. I think there might have been a culture festival at the end, like in the VN, but that is hardly a unique event.

I think the majority of my problems with the plot can be summed up into one statement. Side B distances itself so far from the VN that it doesn't feel like a part of the Kindred Spirits universe any more. When I read a side story to an existing IP, I want to read more about the interactions of the characters after the VN, or at least explore concepts and elements introduced in the original media. I don't want to read a story that is almost completely unrelated aside from coincidentally taking place in a school with the same name. Especially if the story, characters, and art are not to my liking.

to be continued
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cont. from >>2288436

The reason I think that Side B should be scrapped for Side A is that, while both are underdeveloped and kind of generic, Side A has much more potential, especially when thinking in terms of the KS universe.


When I get the chance, I would like to reread both sides and see if my thoughts have changed on anything. If they have, and the thread is still alive, I'll post my new thoughts. So y'all can look forward to that!

When I get the chance, I would like to reread both sides and see if my thoughts have changed on anything. If they have, and the thread is still alive, I'll post my new thoughts. So y'all can look forward to that!
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cont. from >>2288437

It's been a while since I posted an essay that long. Any thoughts on my thoughts are greatly appreciated.

>>2288274
>Side A was generic as fuck.
I don't disagree, but generic doesn't automatically equal bad.

>>2288317
Yeah, I read the rest of his works on Dynasty after I finished the available chapters of Side A, and I noticed they all seemed uncannily similar. I really liked all of his stuff I read, which is part of the reason I was a bit disapointed by the length and simplicity of Side A. It felt like I was given a bit of heroin get hooked, except instead of selling me more heroin, the dealer just left. Such is life. Time to tackle the audio discs I guess.
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>>2287846
What the hell?
Their relationship was pretty much written to feel like family (and not as wives, but as older sister and younger sister).

Notice I never criticised the idea that Hina wasn't some girl that showed out of nowhere and turned Yuna's life upside down, but that for half of the novel she wasn't developed as a love interest (nor was anyone else, for that matter). Not to mention Hina's behaviour felt like that of a little child (even though she's only 1 year younger), and her dynamics with Yuna involved romance in the slightest, but were played-oyt fairly sibling-like (which was perfectly fine, and ought to have been kept that way).

Had Hina's character been different, even if her role was similar (i.e. childhood friend whom Yuna meets every other day, and is an important part of her life), her behaviour been like that of someone only 1 year younger than Yuna (like, for instance, Maki's), and the nature of her relationship with Yuna been different (i.e. not sibling-like), that would have been okay for a love interest that was also part of the MC's every day life.

Notice that all you mentioned still applies for Hina as she is, in terms of support for Yuna, but just not as a lover.

>>2288008
No one would have worked at that point, because Yuna had no romantic development with anyone by the time that scene took place.
The love interest of the MC should have been introduced and been developed as such from early on.

With Hina it was like:
1. This girl is pretty much like a little sister/pet to me.
2. Let me tell you my story.
3. "Thanks Yuna-nee".
4. Oh, my heart just skipped a beat.

I mean, come on.

Mind you, I absolutely loved this game, but I just couldn't get into the MC's personal love story, and I don't think that's a good thing, which makes me really sad because I think Yuna was an amazing MC.
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>>2288581
If you read Hina's apples, you see that Seina started it. Seina's passion for Senpai (Miki) got Hina going down the path of realizing that she loved Yuuna like that. It's not in the main story, but it's there.
I'm going through and Plating the game. That's how I found that.
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>>2288602
I think he's talking about it from Yuuna's perspective, all it took for her to fall in love was Hina hearing her story
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>>2288581
I get what you're saying, and I feel like there are a couple reasons why the development was so sudden and not quite natural,

1. To keep the readers in suspense as to whether Yuna would get with Hina, Ano, or be forever alone.

2. It's been a while since I read the main story, but I vaguely recall that Yuna hadn't even thought about yuri relationships before meeting the spirits. I think the writer(s) may have been trying to have her open up bit by bit to the idea of being attracted to girls herself, and just been heavy-handed with the execution.

Neither of these are great reasons, admittedly, but I didn't have any real problems with the development (aside from her waiting like a month to give Hina an answer), probably due to my low standards being blown away by the rest of the novel.

I also feel like the scene where she tells Hina of the past could also be thought of as her freeing herself to move forward which allowed her to even begin to think about wanting to sex girls.

This is all just me trying to rationalize the main couple being my favorite, but I've never claimed to have great taste, just better taste than anyone else.
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>>2288581
Just because Yuna didn't understand at first that her feelings for Hina were love doesn't mean they didn't have romantic development.
She obviously always cared a great deal about her, and even gets jealous when other girls pay attention to her. Furthermore, different people express love in different ways. Not everyone wants to stare longingly into their partner's eyes while reciting sappy poetry. Some people just want to pet their lover on the head while she eats your home cooking.

The only bad part of Yuna/Hina is how long it took for Yuna to stop being autistically dense.
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>>2288610
Wouldn't you? Also, she already loved Hina, just in a different way. It's not too hard to switch gears on what kind of love it is.
Such as Philia (friendly love) to Eros (romantic love), or, in this case, Yuna probably had Agape (unconditional love) for Hina, but with the flavor of Storge (affection/Familial love), and once Hina made it known that she loved Yuna romantically, it wasn't TOO hard for Yuna to switch from Storge to Eros flavors of her preexisting Agape love.
(It should also be remembered that she spent close to a month agonizing over how she should respond and weather or not she loved Hina like that.)
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>>2288617
I definitely think Yuna's feelings are intentionally held back from the reader to reflect how she herself is being clueless about her attraction to Hina. That's why the ghosts show up and don't get into the issue with her; they can tell what's in her heart, and they don't want the revelation to come while she's talking to them, but when she's with Hina.
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>>2288999
Exactly.
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What would happen if the ghosts meet Ano instead of Yuna? How drastic will the story change?
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>>2289058
Ano would freak out that two random people were looking at her and run off. Later, Ano would casually mention it to Yuna but she thinks nothing of it. Yuna goes up to the roof to eat lunch and so the game begins.
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>>2287997
Wow, Sensei is popular
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>>2288436
>I was never really sure of the time frame in which it took place
Side A takes place 1 year after the VN.
Side B takes place at least 2 years after the VN.

>a big problem with Side B is the lack of screentime for the original cast
I would agree. Besides Tsukuyo having a couple of panels, there's only a cameo by the broadcasting trio and Aki. The rest are in the omake.

>Side B distances itself so far from the VN
I also agree with this. The story doesn't have many points that connect it to the VN nor Side A. At least Side A has cameos for everyone in the VN and Mako is pretty cool.
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>>2289292
>Side B takes place at least 2 years after the VN.
Yeah, I figured that was the case. I wish it was clearer though. Wasn't that really only revealed when the broadcasting trio made their cameo, or did I miss an earlier reference?
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>>2289332
If it's happening two years later, I want it to be a story about one of the couples that's out of school now, dammit! I don't give a shit about these new characters! (Mostly because I haven't read any of side B, but still. I want to see Aki and Youka doing things now that they're either in college or working. In fact, I would love a series devoted to just them after they'd gotten out of school. Who do I throw money at to try to make this happen?)
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>>2288004
Do it, sensei. Win the Yuukabowl; I believe in you.
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>>2289366
Fund it
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>>2289370
Thank you, thank you! Today was my English Teacher's final class so we mostly played games. One game involved a straw in our mouth and passing an M&M from one person to the next and of course I was in line behind Yuuka and I couldn't keep it together, my heart was beating too fast to take something from her mouth!

This is practically Yuzumori-san levels of ridiculousness. It's gonna be a long couple years.


(On topic, I'm heading to Naha next week and will spend lots of time browsing Animate. Does anybody know about finding old-ish drama CDs like this one? Maybe if I have the exact names I can just ask about it.)
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>>2289332
It's the little things like how Aki used to be president of the disciplinary committee or Umi being similar to her Drama CD 4 look or Tsukuyo being alone in Shirojo.
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>>2289437
Great! Please keep us updated
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>>2289437
probably you can get some information from this site
https://www.liar.co.jp/yuri_tokuten.htm
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>>2289428
I would if they would agree to do it. If I could get four other people to toss $100 a week at the author so that they can do it, that would be nice.
I also need someone to e-mail them (I cannot into moon runes) that we want this, and are willing to pay them to do it.
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>>2289437
>passing an M&M to Yuuka's mouth
>2 days after you gave her chocolate
You work quick anon. Keep it up!


Also Amazon.co.jp still has the yurirei drama CDs available. 2 of them are on sale too.
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>>2289437
So are you actually going to seduce an innocent high school student?
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>>2289437
how old are you, anyway?
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>>2289712
Obviously Yuuka is seducing sensei, not the other way around.
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>>2285174
>>2285478
>i'm this anon
I've got it! Well, I've got something.
Script so far:
>Youka's dream:
>Youka is back-stage after a Queen concert
>Freddie isn't dead in the dream's timeline, and Aki got Youka a V.I.P. pass as a present
>They both got to see the concert, but Aki could only afford the one pass, and made Youka take it as an early birthday present.
>Youka's lead to a a room behind the stage where Freddie is cooling down from the concert
>He's sitting in a chair in front of the Bureau
Freddie: "Hello, darling~! Did you enjoy the show?"
Youka: "Yeah! It was totally Rock! It was amazing! I never thought that I'd get to actually see a Queen concert!"
Freddie: "Well, I'm glad that you liked it. It's always lovely to get to talk to such enthusiastic fans. Why don't you take a seat over there?"
>motioning to the couch on the adjacent wall
Youka: "Thanks. But, yeah. And not only did I get to see your all's amazing concert, but I also get to talk to THE Freddie Mercury!"
Freddie: "Oh, stop it dear. It'll all go to my head if you keep talking like that!"
>Freddie opens the mini fridge and takes out a water bottle
Freddie: "Water?"
Youka: "Yes, thank you. But still! It's all true! All of you are amazing! Ah! I wish Aki could have gotten us both passes!"
Freddie: "Aki?"
>Freddie passes Youka the bottle of water before taking another for himself
Youka: "My Rockin' girlfriend! She bought me the V.I.P. pass as an early birthday present! I mean, we got to watch the concert together, but still. . ."
Freddie: "Oh? What's she like?"
>Freddie sits forwards to listen while drinking his water.
Youka: "She's great! She's really cool, and sexy, and she's got this voice that whenever I hear her I get these shivers going all through my body and every time I see her I always think 'Oh, god(s), she's so perfect! I'm so lucky to have such a Rock girlfriend!'"
Freddie: "She does sound like quite the catch!"
Youka: "I know! But I'm wondering how I should repay her for this, though-
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>>2290148
>cont.
-. I mean, sure it was expensive, but it's not even that, you know? It's like, this is one of my dreams come true, getting to talk to you, and I want to pay her back for setting this up."
>Freddie caps and sits down his bottle
Freddie: "She must love you quite a lot to know enough about you to be able to tell that this would be a great present, wouldn't you say? Not only that, but getting the money to buy the pass. You're a student, yeah?"
Youka: "Yeah."
Freddie: "Well getting the money for that pass took a lot of work."
Youka: "Yeah. . .So, what do you think I should do?"
Freddie: "With how much she must love you, you could try romancing her."
>Freddie stands up from his chair
Youka: "Yeah! That could work, though, normally she's the one that takes charge with stuff like that."
Freddie: "It's simple, really; Tell her 'Darling, I love you so much, thank you for the wonderful present. I would do anything for you, so /say the word, your wish is my command/."
>Freddie walks over to Youka
Youka: "Wow, Yeah! That's Rock! That's really Rock! I'm sure that'll work, yeah!"
Freddie: "One other thing, just be with her. Simply spending time with her will make her plenty happy. Now, get to it, Darling."
>Freddie pushes Youka onto her side
>Youka wakes up on Aki's lap

I'm not sure where to go from here, but I want to go farther.
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>>2290148
>>2290155
Truly, Freddie would be the only man to be allowed in a /u/ paradise.

Is that how he really talks? I've never heard him before.

Otherwise, cute script.
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>>2290188
As far as I can tell from his interviews, yes, that is how he spoke.
I'm going to namefag now when talking about, or writing up, the story.

As I said, I want it to go farther, but I'm not quite sure how to do it.
I mean, I know what I want the last few panels to be:
Youka grasps Aki's chin with her thumb and index finger and tilts her head up to face her then says "Aki, darling, I love you so much. Thank you for everything that you do for me. I would do anything for you, so say the word: your wish is my command."
We would then cut to a picture of Niagara Falls with the caption "Aki right now".

Aki would then either jump Youka then and there, or she would let Youka take the lead.
Both while thinking something along the lines of "My Rocker Girlfriend CANNOT be this Cute!"
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>>2290346
Do you have Yuzumori tankoubon?
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I really hate blogposting but teacher oneesama is too cute.
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>>2290346
IT'S NOT DOOMED! It'll work out! I'm sure of it!
She just has to not be a student at the same school as you for it to be okay, I think. It won't take too long.
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>>2290346
Are you attractive? The picture you posted earlier makes you look gross but it didn't really include your face.
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>>2290493
That's pretty rude, Anon.
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>>2290498
Yuuka deserves a cute girlfriend.
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>>2290346
If you're under 30, I think you'll be a-okay.

Are you?
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>>2290346
>I did bring up Yuzumori-san
Before I reread your other post, I thought you meant you brought it up with Yuuka. Like: "hey Yuuka, how do you feel about age-gap yuri?"
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>Sensei probably looks like an average lesbian in her mid-late twenties
>Suddenly this becomes creepy and gross

Way to go with potentially derailing a cute blog just because Senseis appearance isnt titillating enough for you.
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>https://twitter.com/liar_railsoft/status/845205907331989505
>【速報】「屋上の百合霊さん」フルボイス化計画始動!
タイトル5周年を控え、とい天津氏と会合、決定しました!/詳細は後日ご報告いたします!ぜひフォローを宜しくお願い申し上げます!(2017年3月24日)/作品詳細→ https://www.liar.co.jp/yuritop.htm

Liar-soft announced Kindred Spirited full-voiced version
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>>2295965
Holy shit. This is kind of big isn't it? The english sales must have made them realize this series can still make money.
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>>2295965
Spirited > Spirits
my bad, I was too overjoyed
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>>2295965
But what about the people who already bought it?
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>>2295990
If/when mangagamer licenses the new content we will probably get it as paid DLC.
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>>2295994
I would gladly pay for such a DLC, it would also be a nice excuse to replay it.
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>>2295965
I hope Liar-soft considers making another Yuri vn.
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This game made me gay
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>>2295965
I hope the voices are hnnnngh
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>>2295999
>a nice excuse to replay it.
I was just about to replay but now I absolutely need to wait so I can hear 30 hours of lesbian ghosts whispering in my ear.

Any idea how long voice work usually takes? Maybe they started recording before the announcement.
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>>2295994
It's probably in MG's interest to get it relatively quickly as DLC, since any significant gap between the Japanese and English release would probably result in a fan voice patch instead. Hopefully MG will say something about it at one of their upcoming conventions, which start up fairly soon and go through the end of Summer.

>>2296740
There really isn't a "usual" template for this situation, and they didn't give much info with the announcement other than saying a full voice edition is coming with more information at a later date. Perhaps it will be quick, but it is probably best schedule wise to expect the sort of wait as if Liar-Soft just announced a new title.
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>>2296371
>implying you weren't already gay before playing it
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>>2295965
So the most overated Yuri title of all time is getting full voiced. Whatever.
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>>2295965
Fuck. Yes.
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>>2296064
At this point I'd be quite surprised if they don't do it, maybe even a sort of spiritual sequel.

I mean, a full voiced version 5 years after the release? You don't do that on a whim, the success of the english version surely helped them realize there's still a market for yuri vns, and now they also know that if they'll make a new one the english license is 100% sure.
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>>2295990
That is what I was wondering too. I hope they'd put out a patch for current owners, but I'm doubtful.
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>>2296993
They will probably put it out as DLC alongside the complete game version's re-release. There is no way it will be free but we will definitely get it.
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Does anyone have the screenshot of "don't fall for Miss Ano now, I don't do IRL" in nip?
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>>2296832
>a saltfag comes in and is mad
This news can't get any better.
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>>2296980
>spiritual sequel
heh
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GUYS I'M ATTEMPTING TO GET A COMMISSION FROM A GOOD ARTIST FOR A VERY CUTE YUNA/HINA PIC.

NORMALLY I DON'T ALLCAPS BUT I NEED YOUR HELP.

GIVE ME AS MANY REFERENCE IMAGES AS YOU CAN, PLEASE.
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>>2297263
I refuse to help you and your lame pairing. Commission some cute ghosts or broadcasting club members instead, then I'll help.
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>>2297263
CG - https://e-hentai.org/g/477216/07bc71dcf8/
Full character sprite - http://www.animecharactersdatabase.com/en/series.php?id=102301
Peg's pixiv - http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=5020
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>>2297270
Thank you very much, anon. These will help tremendously.

I think I got the commission slot, though, so these will just be what I send for additional refs.

Either way, thank you very much! Love you, anon-chan.

>>2297266
Best pairing is Youka/Aki anyway.
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>>2297215
This is really cute.
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What's the weirdest hypothetical KS sequel/spinoff you could possibly think of that you'd still be willing to play?

Doesn't matter how stupid it is. Just what's the weirdest possible thing that could come out of Liar-Soft's twitter that you'd be taken aback by but still go, "huh, yeah. I'll buy it."
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>>2298861
Literally anything.

It would have to be incredibly bad looking from the git go for me to not at least give it a shot.
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>>2298861
Ano meets an angel and a demon after transferring to a new school, and needs to play match maker.
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>>2298861
Sachi/Megumi in a bullet hell in yuri heaven where they have to fight straight girls and show them the error of their ways.

It incorporates an Ikaruga-like mechanic that involves switching between the two of them.

I call it "Kindred Heaven: Bullet Hell"

Back my kickstarter.
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>>2298861
I love the detailed areola.
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>>2298953
I'd fund it.
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>>2298861
Racing spinoff featuring Tsukuyo and Kiri
The title would be Okujou no Yurirei-san:Drift Stage
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>>2298861
Fighting game like Maribato.

Matsuri and Miyu are the Ryu and Ken
Hina and Mako are the shotoclones
Seina is the grappler
Tsukuyo is the magical girl
Youka is I-No
Aki is UMvC3 Phoenix Wright

The final boss is Megumi and Sachi fusing with Hina and Yuna
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>>2298953
Amusing as that idea is, Sachi and Megumi wouldn't try to convert straight girls. They want to help real lesbians understand who they are, not try to change people into something they aren't.
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>>2298861
Pro-wrestling game with Maki "John" Seina
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>>2300041
But every woman is a lesbian at heart.
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>>2300043
>t.lesbian
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>>2300041
Well onee-sama, the obvious implication is that they're actually all just closet dykes. I thought that would be obvious.

Besides, everyone can become a lesbian with enough effort and Japanese witchcraft.
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>>2298949
So Gal Gun with lesbians and a more voyeuristic approach?
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>>2300041
But if we don't convert the straight girls, how else will the light of lesbianism spread throughout the globe purging the straight darkness?
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>>2305203
Because if they're straight, they will almost always actually be straight? The best you could do is get them to be Bi, really.
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>>2306011
Not that anon, but not being able to detect humor is a sign of autism, or newfaggotry. Or maybe both in your case.
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Did the rest of the manga ever got scanned?
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>>2306266
It's probably the autism. I've never been able to understand written jokes that weren't puns or excessively obvious.
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Wow. I just noticed Sachi looks almost exactly like a certain lesbian Spider Demon...

There needs to be a spinoff of Sachi turning evil, possessing a lesbian serial rapist, and making her own harem of brainwashed girls.
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>>2310860
That sounds hot. Who in the left?
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>>2312423
Hirasaka Hatsune, the lesbian rapist protagonist of the VN Atlach-Nacha.
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I've been putting this game off since forever, finally had some time to get started and god this is cute shit. Wish I started earlier. The arts a bit crappy but not much to do about that, and seems like VNs have pretty shitty art in general.
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>>2312574
>seems like VNs have pretty shitty art in general
Maybe you should stop playing shitty VNs.
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>>2312591
Its more my years on /ic/ acting up.
also bad example, bloom and bright colors doesn't equal to great artwork.
But artwork isn't a must for VNs, its just a nice thing to have. Much like with manga, there's plenty of great yuri that isn't well drawn. Its just a little jaring when cute scenes happen then suddenly her arm is a deformed lump.
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>>2312591
Is it supposed to be sarcasm or did you miss how fucked up blonde girl's anatomy is? Her upper and lower bodies don't match, she looks like she's been sawed in half under her skirt.
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>>2312958
Her breasts have a weird shape, too.
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>>2312574
>The arts a bit crappy
You're allowed to have shit taste, of course, but please have it someplace else.
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>>2312574
>Pegs art
>shitty art
Are mutually exclusive. Get some eyeglasses.
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>>2313082
>>2313086
The style is nice, I rather like the art direction. But there's a lot of really really glaring mistakes that are just really offputting and throws me off on CG focused scenes.
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>>2313089
Pretty faces, nice bodies, distinctive artstyle. Peg is one of my most fav artist of all time.
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>>2313089
You're a really really glaring mistake.
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>>2313089
I had no idea /ic/ was /mu/ level of elitist.
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>>2312574
There's plenty of Yuri VNs with good art.
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I didn't mean anything by it, I was just drunk posting and it I happened to be looking at a bad example with ano's dwarf arm when I was posting.
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>>2313280
Too late now, your yuricred is kill.
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>>2313267
Everyone in Aoi Shiro has monkey hands.
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>>2312423
>>2312515

Stay away from that game. It is not yuri.
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>>2313336
And then there is this faggot.
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>>2313336
Its considered part of the Yuri genre by a majority of people.
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>>2313347
Looking through the CG set I can say that game is just as yuri as the hentai anime Lesbian Ward.
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>>2313353
>didn't play the game and just spout bullshit based on uninformed picture guess
Here is your (You).
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>>2313353
By you're definition, Aoi Hana and Octave aren't Yuri because they have plenty of Het relationships.

Playing through the game is a different story. Hatsune and Kanako, the main relationship, are exlusivley with each other, and the one male romance option for Hatsune can be skipped by choosing to devour him. The rest of the het is done on Hatsune "thralls" before Hatsune takes them for herself (and fills up on there rapists)
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>>2313354
If I am looking for a yuri game and I find out half of it is het you're damn right I wont bother playing it.

>>2313356
>Male romance option for Hatsune
I was told this girl was a lesbian.

Also mentioning Aoi Hana and Octave to defend Atlach-Nacha seems kind out of place. The genres and purpose are far from similar. I think there is a difference between struggling with your sexuality and raping men and women for power.

I know there wont be any mind changing in this conversation, but would Atlach-Nacha be a yuri game you would recommended someone if they said they enjoyed Sono Hanabira, Kindred Spirits, or Seisai no Resonance? Would you warn them that half of the game's CGs is het when the other previously mentioned games contain no het scenes at all?


Also I don't really want to continue this conversation as it's unrelated to this thread's topic, so this will be my last response.
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>>2313393
Hatsune is a lesbian. Shes just pragmatic about how she restores her enegery, in which she has two ways. Devouring human flesh or sex in which the later gives more her energy. Game gives you the option.

Two thirds of Katahane is Het. Half of Toyoko Necro is Het. And those are held up as quality Yuri games. Same with Atlach Nacha. (In which the actual amount of Yuri is about 90 percent of the game.

VNDB, Japanese Wikipedia, and Alicesoft itself consider it a Yuri title (albeit very dark) as does everyone who played it.

Hence yes its a Yuri title.
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>>2313409
>Two thirds of Katahane is Het
What. Did you even read Katahane. There's one route and one extremely irrelevant sex scene outside of that route. The yuri route has absolutely no het. Kurohane is the gayest shit.
I feel like I'm being baited.
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Its kinda crazy how highly regarded this game is now. Before, in Japan it was just a regular Yuri visual novel, here in the west its considered basically the premier Yuri title, and is one of the things essential to the genre.
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>>2319912
That's because the west doesn't get too many official translations of pure yuri VNs.
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>>2319912
There isn't much competition in the west for Yuri VNs to begin with but it isn't like KS wasn't near the top in Japan. Sadly there aren't enough yuri VNs in the world for there to be Regular Yuri Visual Novels. Just think about how few yuri VNs there are and how few do well enough to get 4 drama CDs and 2 full volumes of manga.

I physically need to play the game again when it is fully voiced. This wait is torture.
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>>2313393
Hatsune is a lesbian. Here is the thing: she's a spider youkai that requires food in two ways: either having sex with human or eating human. She explicitly stated that she'd rather have sex with girls while guys should just be food. Therefore she is a lesbian. The game simply gave you the option to have sex with guys, which you can choose not to.

The romance between Hatsune and her SOLE love interest is the main theme and accounted for most of the game, the rest is filled with Hatsune raping some other girls and killing guys. If you can read nip, I do recommend Atlach-Nacha. You will understand why it created a cult among yuri VN enthusiasists in Japan.

>>2313409
Your comparison with Katahane and Tokyo Necro is terrible because the het in those games do not involve the lesbians. If you're trying to defend a Atlach-Nacha, at least do it right.
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>>2319916
The east doesn't get many yuri VNs either.
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>>2319912
It's actually good (despite a few hiccups along the way).
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>>2319917
KS?
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>>2320080
A clue: This thread is about game called Kindred Spirits.
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>>2320131
um excuse me gaijin but it's actually called 屋上の百合霊さん
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>>2320136
What does this literally translate to?

Lily Ghosts of the Roof?
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>>2320149
Yeah pretty much.

In all seriousness, "kindred spirits" isn't really a great translation. It kills the pun.
Poltergaysts on the Roof would've been much better.
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>>2320153
I thought the opposite actually, that the translated title was much nicer than something too literally translated so as to sound horrible like "Lily Ghosts on the Roof".
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>>2320153
Polterdykes
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>>2320153
Lesbooans
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>>2297263
>>2297272
so, I guess I'm not entirely happy with it. Most of it's great, besides the faces, which are just servicable (Hina's is fine, but Yuna's is weird and not what I expected), but anyway, here ya go.

Thankfully my shame will sink into obscurity under the shifting sands of time that is 4chan.
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>>2320544
I like it alot. Except Yuna's breasts are too big.
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>>2320544
It's a shame about the faces and Yuna's gross H cup breasts. Could've been really good with some minor tweaks from the artist.
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>>2320556
Yeah, I get what you mean. I never intended for her to become a tiddy monster but that's just how it ended up. The sketches I got never hinted that they would end up looking that big, and I would have had to pay more for a revision, which I wasn't willing to do.

>>2320558
Well I wouldn't call them gross or anything. Just non-canon. Bah, Yuna's going to be like 25-some-plus years old when she marries Hina anyway. Plenty of time to make way too much fucking five-star food for Hina to make them both get chubby (which Hina doesn't, of course, because she's fit).
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>>2320544
Eyes and hairstyle and bust size are the only significantly off parts that make this look like a random yuri pic instead of a Yuna/Hina pic. Nice work otherwise though. You clearly have talent. You could overlay official art to adjust the eye shapes and it would help the resemblance a lot.
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>>2320544
Speaking of which, do we know if Yuna or Hina's parents are homophobic assholes? I wonder how a wedding would go.

I'm sure Maki's family would be the most receptive, and tolerant towards their daughters homosexuality.
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>>2320564
I don't think hairstyle is a valid complaint. Obviously you're going to do your hair differently when you're getting married. The rest, yeah. Artist could have given it a little bit more.
>>2320568
They're probably fine. Does Yuna even have a dad mentioned in-VN?
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>>2320586
If you cover a character's face and left only the hair it would still be recognizable. That's all I meant. Familiar contours make characters pop.
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I really, really want to replay this. But the voiced patch is coming...what should I do?
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>>2320602
We could be waiting until 2018. How long are you willing to wait?

I'd play it now and then play it again when the patch is out.
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This really is the best yuri game of all time. Sad there will be a vn as good as it :(
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Any chance of Ano route dlc?

I'm kidding. Goddamn it's hard being an Anofag.
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>>2320641
Go back to whatever pit you crawled from
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>>2320641
Ano sequel about her getting over her yuri =/= lesbian delusions
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>>2320641
I don't think Ano fits all that well as Yuna's girlfriend, but she's definitely leagues better than Hina. Frankly, out of all the girls, the one possessing the best romantic chemistry with Yuna is Megumi (followed by Ariu). They both already have befitting girlfriends though.

Goddamn, Yuna is my favourite character yet her own romance is the worst. It's my greatest grief with Kindred.
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>>2320558
Same.
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>>2320764
If you go into it not knowing that there aren't multiple endings or different routes and you pick dialogue options that suggest taking the "Ano route," you're going to be a bit upset to find out you can only get Hina.
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>>2320675
To be fair, I feel like Yuna's romance is kinda shoehorned into it because it's a yuri game and they felt they had to do it. Every other couple is better done.
I think Yuna ending up not romantically involved with anyone but opening herself to her classmates after everything would be a way better end.
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>>2320791
I think Hina is a miracle, victorious childhood friend is something that I have waited for long. And Hina is cute

I gotta admit that I kinda want Ano route, but because it's worth a laugh
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>>2320795
I would have liked this as well.
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>>2320795
Sure thing waifufag, leave the best girl alone without GF
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>>2320801
Strawman. Not every girl has to be paired just to prove it's not waifufagging bait.
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>>2320797
Childhood friends winning isn't that rare in yuri stories.
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>>2320801
Except the entire point in the game was about Yuna's relationship with her classmates and her opening up to trust them again. Then the last part is a shoehorned romance with not good build up at all that deviates of the main point.

They could still make it clear that Yuna is a lesbian. Or treat her romantic route as another part of the story (with proper development this time), instead of the climax.
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>>2320795
Go kill yourself het faggot
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>>2320809
>>2320804
>>2320802
>>2320799
>>2320795
>>2320675
Ano fags are cancer, and the ones who didn't want romance for Yuna are fucking waifu faggots who want to covert her, and think she isnt a lesbian. Kindly both get out of here? You aren't welcome, Hina is the canon path. She is Yuna's girlfriend.
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>>2320960
I don't believe it's waifufagging, it's simply that Anusfags are just salty that they didn't get a route for their character, so they would rather have had Yuna not ending up with anybody so they could make their own headcanons about Yuna and Ano getting together.
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>>2320960
Do you have a problem?
I don't event care about the end, but it is badly written and shoehorned. Can't deny that.
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>>2321044
>Badly written.
>Just an excuse because i'm salty that the superior girl got the girl in the end.
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>>2320809
Just because you're too autistic to see the buildup doesn't mean it wasn't there.
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>>2320960
>and the ones who didn't want romance for Yuna are fucking waifu faggots who want to covert her
What kind of extreme assumption is this? People can have opinions on how they think they would have liked a story to have gone without it meaning anything.

I liked Yuna and Hina getting together, but I also think Yuna ending up along would have worked nicely as well.
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>>2320797
Childhood friends win more often than anyone else in yuri. Read more, yuri. Or stop reading het and make up bullshit about yuri.

>>2320801
>>2320960
>>2320917
You Hinafags are the fucking cancer. You know why? Because you are overly hostile without giving any substantial argument. You don't have enough brain cells to maturely disagree with another opinion. Might explain why you like a kid.

"Hurr durr waifu fag" is a strawman that made no sense as an acussation. How did you miss the point this hard? There's a difference between "I want a yuri romance for Yuna but there's no good option WITHIN the current cast" VS "I don't want romance for Yuna ever."

And Hina won. It is canon. Why are you still so insecure? Only insecure faggots would get worked up whenever someone calmly stating their different opinion. A secure and sensible person would either ignore those opinions, or join in the debate with good questions, or give a simple "sure, Hina still won." Intelligence makes the thread and the fandom a better place to enjoy the work, do you get it?

I've had enough of this cancerous fandom. Everytime something got popular enough, it attracts retards like this.
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>>2321615
Amazing.
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>>2321615
Well done.
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>>2321615
Nicely put. I'm so sick of Hinafags reacting so immaturely every fucking time someone makes a post that differs from their opinion.
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>>2321615
You're replying to an anofag who's trying to discredit the one true ship by ranting incoherently.
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This is Shizuma and Tamaofags all over again.
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>>2322161
Hell no. Shizumafags are good sports who never get worked up. They give short and humourous replies whenever Tamaofags make entertainingly whining posts, instead of fostering hostile feelings. Most people genuinely adore Tamaofags. I'm a Shizumafag who think the playful back-and-forth between the two camps is the best part of the Stopani fandom.

Hinafags in the Kindred fandom on the other hand are just stupidly petty. It's unpleasant to be around such mean-spirited people who are insecure, don't get the point, and always just assume the worst out of people. It's the same as Yuufags in the Yagakimi thread (and I'm speaking this as a Yuufag myself).

I think this immaturity has to do with the actual age of the posters. Stopani fags are mostly oldfags so you can see the difference in mentality compared to retarded newfags who are most likely all tumblrinas.
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>>2322288
I can feel the irony radiating off this post like a hot oven.
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>>2322288
Since you keep screaming about fandoms, and NON-CANON ships, I think you're the tumblrite.
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>>2322291
This here is a shining example of retardation. The inability to point out anything concrete, just full denial mode.
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>>2322304
I'm not denying anything, I'm just pointing out that post's irony. Though it's clearly a troll post so it doesn't matter.
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>>2322300
>enjoying non-can ships is tumblrinas!
When will you retards start making sense? You keep doing memtal gymnastic that has no logic behind it.

You are dismissing everything most of /u/ship because most of them are not canon. Including Tamaofags. Which is objectively wrong, and proved that you can't make any coherent thoughts anymore. You're too blinded with being in denial.
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>>2322312
I think you need to calm down, sister.
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Ano fags and waifu fags always come here, and ruin the fun with their hateful screeching. Oh well.
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>>2322317
I don't think I've ever seen a waifufag in /u/
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>>2322332
There's shin

But other than that it's almost a generic insult. In this instance you use it on anyone who disagrees with your favorite pairing, I guess.
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>>2322332
Just a complete retard think waifufags would play a yuri game when they have like, 99% of all japanese VNs ever made.
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So Yuna was kinda in a closest? All the subtle examples of homophobia from her was her basically being self loathing, and confused about her sexuality
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>>2324495
Confused maybe, as she progressed, but not in the closet. You don't think maybe her thoughts about homosexuality evolved after being surrounded by polterdykes and the living types of lesbians for half a year?
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>>2324609
You're born with you're sexuality, so I assume she was always in denial about her being gayl
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>>2324620
Maybe she just didn't realize her feelings? I cannot imagine it being any kind of conscious denial. To be "in the closet" you'd have to be sure, and purposely hide it, right?
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>>2324620
>born with your sexuality

Please don't start that argument here. Sexuality depends on a wide variety of factors including genetics, childhood experiences, exposure to certain chemicals (like xenoestrogens), societal standards, and (slightly) personal will. If genetics 100% determined your sexuality, we would not be seeing an increase in non-heterosexual sexualities in modern times, because genetics don't change that quickly.

Personally, I don't know if Yuna is even a 100% lesbian, because she never really seemed to indicate any kind of erotic response to either men or women (though, obviously, we never hear about her opinion on men for good reason) other than Hina.
But since she knew Hina beforehand for many years and loves her very much, I think she's a Hinasexual.

Lesbian would imply that she could theoretically get off to other girls or the female body in general, which I don't think is the case.
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>>2324677
It's ironic in the most wholesome way possible. Yuna acting closeted because of social pressures to appear a certain way, or lack of acceptance, or any other expected reason is pretty much the opposite what happens. She was in an anti-closet of pure gay acceptance and no obligation to be anything. It was nice not having stereotypical reasons. It felt very human to see Yuna being scared to act with Hina because she never got comfortable being open about wanting what she desired after the cooking competition heckling fucked her up. It all fits together so well with the rest of the game and god damn where is that fully voiced patch so I can have an excuse to play it again?

>>2324776
>Please don't start that argument here
>rest of post
Fucking what?
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>>2324776
What's wrong with you? She's a lesbian.
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>>2324953
There's no way she could have proper romantic feelings for literally anyone other than Hina.
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>>2324964
hina's a girl
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>>2324977
Just saying but a lesbian usually has attraction to more than one person over the course of their life, man.
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>>2324986
>>2324964
She's sexually attracted to a female. Hina. Therefor, she's a lesbian.
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>>2325000
It does not seem like Yuna likes Hina for her body to me.

Someone can't be called a chocolate-lover if they desire to eat the world's best chocolate; that kind of desire is something you're going to have whether you are a "chocolate-lover" or not.

In the same way, Yuna wants to have the world's best person for her, which is Hina. Hina happens to be a girl, but that doesn't mean that Yuna would ever consider getting off to a yuri doujin. She's just not that kind of person.

Besides, in the VN, they made a point of not calling people "lesbians," because the word itself brings with it some connotations and feelings that aren't really indicative of the characters in the VN. That's why they specifically discard "rezubian" in exchange for "yuri," because it's a more nuanced and beautiful word, much like Yuna deserves, because she's way better than just a "lesbian."

I wouldn't call Yuna a lesbian. I'd call her a yurimancer, because that's what she is.
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>>2325003
you're just a weirdo
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>>2325003
>That's why they specifically discard "rezubian" in exchange for "yuri,"
It was "rezu", which is kind of like lesbo or dyke in the way it comes across in Japanese.
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>>2325003
Maybe not Yuna, but Aki and Matsuri are both pretty chill about their sexuality, and Kiri pretty much goes "oh shot, I'm gay" during her freak out scene.

I don't recall where but think the word lesbian came out somewhere.
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Yuna and Hina are both unrealisticially pure anime maidens, they don't know what a sexual orientation is.

Kiri says herself that she's 同性愛者, though.
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>>2325014
Happy to be so.
>>2325224
Oh yeah, Matsuri, Miyu, Kiri, Tsukyo-chan, Seina, Umi, Sasa, Youka, and Aki are all what I would call lesbians. They'd be down to get down on girls whether or not their canonical gfs existed, I bet you.

I don't remember enough to say whether or not I'd call Miki a lesbian though. She pretty much gets happily roped into a relationship by Seina, so there's not much to go off of. I give her a "probably."

The dynamic between Sachi and Megumi is so unique that it can't be properly characterized by any word. If it were more sinister, I'd almost call it Stockholm Syndrome, because they've been forced to be around each other for 40 years. It's tough to really even say. I guess they're "lesbians," but I don't know.
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Are we going to have a new thread?

Is it time to let it die for now?
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>>2326748
No, we can't let it die. Because >>2295965
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>>2327673
well we're going to need a new thread soon then, onee-sama.
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"A woman kissing and having sex with another woman is not a lesbian/lesbian enough to be called lesbian!"

/u/, 2017
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>>2328348
Lesbian erasure 2017
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>>2328348
Well, it's not. It's possible to do exactly that and be asexual or a bislut or just trying it out to see if you like it -- or any number of other things.

I would never suggest Yuna likes anything other than girls. What I question is how much she likes girls in general (other than Hina). That's the key point. For a girl to be a real "lesbian," she's gotta be attracted to girls in general, which Yuna doesn't really seem to be. She's got eyes for Hina only.
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>>2328355
in a game all about exploring lesbianism, not once is it ever suggested that Yuna ever had any sexual feelings for anyone other than Hina, and only after a few nudges by the gay ghosts. In other words, there is no evidence to suggest that Yuna likes girls for being girls instead of just liking Hina for being Hina.

List of Gay Ghosts girls that DO have evidence suggesting that they are into girls in general:
>Ano (yurifag)
>Kiri (comes to terms specifically with being "gay")
>Sachi (liked a girl when she was alive)
>Matsuri
>Miyu
>Aki (knows the whole time that she's into girls)
>Youka
>Nena (a bit from the mango and other material)
>Seina
>Tsukyo-chan (liked someone else in the past)

It took the ENTIRE VN with Yuna being goaded into recognizing feelings for Hina before she committed to liking her. If she was a straight-up lesbian, she would have long-since thought about what's going on under her skirt telling her to fuck the Hina. There wouldn't have been a VN. Yuna's long-since past the age where a girl starts having sexual urges. What an uncanny stroke of luck it would be for Yuna to be a lesbian and NOT make the tiniest step of logic that she should try wooing Hina.

Evidence says quite clearly that she is not a cut-and-dry lesbian. Telling you, anon; she's a yurimancer, not a "lesbian."
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>>2328362
Wasn't Yuna's whole deal that she's repressed the hell out of her feelings for everything in general? Or am I projecting some bullshit?
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>>2328369
>projecting
Probably not. She was keeping her feelings bottled up. They were all general feelings, though, like not being appreciated.

I want to replay the VN, but unfortunately I feel it'd be a waste of time to do it before all the new voice work is done.
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>>2328370
Yeah, I'm definitely waiting for the new edition before I replay the game. I liked the voice cast so I remember being sad that they were used so little.
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>>2328362
>Nena

Explain
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>>2328369
She was extremely repressed and gave up on wanting anything for herself. The only person projecting is the anon who keeps handwaving away that primary aspect of her character and the whole point of her self discovery at the end of the story. Some people apparently are incapable of grasping the idea that a depressed loner who shoved all her feelings down deep doesn't have to be an insatiable horndog to prove her lesbian cred.
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>>2328387
her kouhai adventures
>>2328510
nice strawman, anon. I love it.
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>>2328362
Go back /lgbt/ she's a fucking lesbian deal with it.
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>>2328511
There's really no reason to think Nena or Ano are gay.
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>>2328544
Their pretty much straight.
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Does Hina have autism?
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>>2328593
She's just quiet. You get some of her thoughts in the extra scenes.
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>>2328544
>Ano
>not the most closeted homo you've ever seen in your life

Sometimes I just don't get you, anon-chan.
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Does Seina push Miki down, or is Miki pulling her down on top?
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