kuttsukiboshi

>>2250159
It was a necessary evil.
It shows the world that if you put het-sex in yuri, your killing your own...oh, wait, NTR is getting an anime. Forget it.

>>2250166
>NTR
Oh please.
NTR is about a closeted lesbian saving her true love from an abusive boyfriend.

>>2250159
I'll fight you
the het was just a plot device. It was a problem to overcome

>>2250170
This OVA is also about lesbians. It's the same thing, but both have het sex.

Anyway, if OP wanted a shitstrom, should have brought Octave instead.

http://dynasty-scans.com/doujins/kuttsukiboshi

>>2250159
Purityfag

>>2250171

/u/ was never a place to put up with het, but neo-/u/ has taken it to a whole different level. It's crystal clear that we are getting more and more people here that hate men more than they like yuri

>>2250189
I blame 75% cunt Mugino.

>>2250197
Try cross-boarders that think we're /lgbt/ or fucking idiots thinking it's hip and cool to falseflag.

>>2250189
As far as I remember, this show was always hated on /u/.
To be fair, I don't mind it. I think the mangas are nice. The brother drama was just too retarded, though. They should have done just an OVA about lesbians having sex, like the manga.

>>2250189
>we are getting more and more people here that hate men more than they like yuri
I can't agree more.

I like to keep my pure sweet innocent yuri porn and my degrading rape netorare heterosexual porn separate, thank you very much. I'll enjoy each at different times.

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>>2250171
Get fucked. Plot device or not, the het turned what was a cute yuri romance into fucking shit not fit for the fertilizer bins. Go fuck yourself if you think the insertion of het into a lesbian romance is worthwhile at all.

>>2250235
it was still a cute yuri romance
they teleported to an alien planet with the power of yuri meanwhile the man died

>>2250251
I didn't even watch the second episode because fuck them, but no, fuck you. It is NOT a yuri romance, no matter how it ended. One of them fucked a guy, I don't care what the reason was, that ended the story as a lesbian one and turned it to shit.

>>2250254
she was coerced

>>2250254
>It is NOT a yuri romance, no matter how it ended
Why? If some boy fucked a girl in a BL manga, I don't think people would say "it's not yaoi; they're not gay!"

>>2250259
If one of the boys in the main couple that the BL manga focuses on fucked a girl, then yes, it's no longer a gay story. I don't know why you would think otherwise and I'm sure the yaoi fans wouldn't be happy with it.

>>2250257
So you mean she's a slut who cheated on her girlfriend? How does that make it any better?

Remember to report the thread

Yurityfags are such a blight

I'd rather have a yuri story where the girls have a happy ending regardless of if one of them had previous experiences with boys/other girls than one where they remain "pure" but die at the end

>>2250260
Since when is yuri a "gay/lesbian story"? Yuri romance is defined as a romantic relationship between two girls.

They had a relationship, it broke, and then they got back together and ended together. You can think that it's a shit plot development. You can read only yuri with girls who've never cheat/break-up. You can hate both it and the people who like it. But it's still yuri.

>>2250260
You see when you begin to view females the same as hardcore islamics then you have gone too far.

>>2250269
even if that other boy is her bother?
added incest to it felt pandering

>>2250254
Purityfag stupid

>>2250197
Only the cancerous tripfag himself would say he's right even that much.

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>>2250159
Forget the original ever existed and watch this version instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE6MXVnG8lY

It has a consistent plot with scenes from both episodes, without any traces of the het "plot device".

>>2250188
tfw doujins done by the director of the OVA apparently aren't official enough for MAL standards. How the fuck am I meant to appease my autistic need to catalogue all the anime/manga I've seen?

for me, this show is good, the ending is a little absurd but cute anyway.

that sex part with her brother? oh, just a little drama, I don't care, as long as I got good ending.

but hey, if you can't handle drama on anime, how can you handle drama IRL?

*sigh* this is why purityfags are.....

>>2250391
I don't care if she's had a penis inside her, it's just an utterly stupid plot twist.

>>2250391
The drama was actually pretty stupid. Even more when we think about how useless it was. It just took away time that could be used better.

I remember someone saying the author didn't even want to put it, it was another guy who was doing the OVA together who suggested. Don't know if true.

I can handle drama, even with het, in yuri, as long as it's not stupid. It was stupid and unnecessary here.

>>2250260
It's pretty stupid trying to use fujoshi to justify your attitude by claiming that they have the equivalent attitude just based on you assuming they must, out of your ignorance.

In reality it's much easier for BL works where one of the protagonists has heterosexual sex to be well received. If you want an example, see Kyuuso wa Cheese no Yume o Miru and its sequel Sojou no Koi wa Nido Haneru.

>>2250420
Isn't "straight guy being raped into submission" one of their primary fetishes anyway?

>>2250251
2het5me

1 word.

SHITsurakuen

>>2250394
It was a solo work, so the author was making a joke with that statement, because the 'meddler' would be himself.

>>2250689
He posted a message about it wherein the director of the studio forced him to do it or it won't air.
Or so I was told

>>2250990
>>2250988
You know, I don't like rape either, but anyone can understand why yuri rape would be more accepted than het sex on a yuri board.

By the way, male pics aren't allowed here, even as reaction.

>>2250991
Nigga-chan and angry ponytail-chan are reverse traps, thankyou very much

>>2250984
He is his own director. That is the joke.

>>2251140
So he made a stupid twist, people got angry and he tried to make a joke about it? Okay.

I've said this before, but the reason the het part of this show bothered me so much was that it was specifically that it was brother-sister incest. I'm no purityfag and It wouldn't be that big a deal to me if it was just some classmate of hers, since being confused about your sexuality at that age is pretty common, especially if you're more bi than lesbian.

But brother-sister incest is a very specific fetish for Japanese otaku that isn't something that happens all the time, so it broke my suspension of belief.

>>2251202
>it broke my suspension of belief.
Wait, that's probably not the best phrasing, since a lot of crazy supernatural stuff happens in the show and that didn't break my suspension of belief.

It's more that the addition of the brother-sister incest angle seemed like a specific fetish the author has, or that he wanted to bring in fans of that fetish, instead of just being a natural part of the plot of a yuri anime.

>>2251202
The thing with it being her brother was that she only cared about him because he's family and it's even less likely that she would have enjoyed the incestuous sex. It wasn't a case of her being confused about her sexuality or attracted to someone else.

>>2250159
I like your style, OP.

>>2251167
Then he made us wait an entire year before releasing the second part, so we could stew even more in our rage.

>>2251210
Her brother went all 'poor me, my dear sister won't even grant her poor brother his dying wish?' to try to guilt her into giving some pity sex.

>>2251234
Yes, which is better in the end than if it had been a classmate.

The incest angle increases the impact of NTR cliffhanger, including heightening Kiiko's disgust.

But once it's explained it's less of a betrayal than other scenarios.

>>2251231
Well, that's what happens when shitty authors think they know how to write.

>>2251231
Weird how it takes a long time to animate solo.

>>2251241
It's what happens when people don't chicken out on doing what they want in their own work just because it'll be subjectively a step too far for some people. Like a lot of things that get put into anime, manga, etc.

>>2251210
> It wasn't a case of her being confused about her sexuality or attracted to someone else.
I know, and that's the problem. A budding lesbian being confused about her sexuality is something that I can understand. A dying brother who asks his sister to have sex with him is disgusting fetish material and has no place in a yuri anime.

>>2251238
>Yes, which is better in the end than if it had been a classmate.
We're going to have to disagree, then.

>>2251241
I thought it was a pretty hilarious troll. Much as I have a distaste for het, I chuckled when I saw what he did there.

>>2251247
I bet he already finished the 2nd part when the 1st was released but withheld it on purpose. For shits and giggles.

>>2251247
>It's what happens when people don't chicken out on doing what they want

Yeah, I guess most shitty authors should do that and kill their chances of ever being relevant again. It's a good filter.

>>2251241
>expecting to get good writing in ecchi/hentai OVA scene
It's all your own fault, you know.

>>2250254
the story didn't turn into shit because the story was already shit. Out of the top five yuri stories I can think of 3 of them are kuttsukiboshi.


Admit it the story was shit

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>>2251382
Top 5 shit yuri stories that is

>>2250210
>they

>>2251382
this. tho the hatred of the het in it is fucking stupid

>>2250254
Wow, that's dumb.

>>2250260
>So you mean she's a slut who cheated on her girlfriend?
Oh, I see, b8ing.

>>2250296
It's animu, incest is normal.
I'm honestly utterly desensibilized to sibling-incest, thanks to animu.

>>2250188
Canon?

>>2263332
Yes

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>>2250251
>they teleported to an alien planet

I laughed when it got referred to in the doujin like nothing.
Good that they didn't get stuck there like Nana and Ringo.

>>2263581
They should become crime fighters.
Yuri crime fighters.

>>2263581
>so we hurriedly returned to earth

Perfect

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>>2250159
Before the thread dies, how did this do in sales/popularity in Japan? Anybody knows? Was there an outrage too? (Or was it perceived more as a for-guys ecchi, rather than yuri material?)

>>2250254
You are the worst part of the yuri fanbase

>>2271928
There was anger from the males who were just excepting some nice yuri they could safely masturbate to.

>>2271935
Expecting*

>>2271928
Two OVAs with 20 minutes each.
Two years apart in release.
Try to guess.

>>2271968
Well he did make the second one after all.
Sadly, somewhere along the way, the video got fucked up even worse than it was in volume 1. That probably also didn't help.

The first disc has PC levels clipped off instead of converted to TV-levels (result = too hard contrast and black/bright parts are killed). I think the colormatrix is wrong too, so basically nobody watching the DVD gets properly looking picture.

The second episode has that too, but in addition somebody screwed up the scaling from 360p to 480p and it is terribly aliased. Just horribly.

I hope he kept the the original unfucked video before that and in case it one day gets re-released (streaming/ondemand instead of DVD I guess), it can be free of that damage. But you know how it goes.

Dunno how much better would it be received should the video not be fucked up by the DVD publisher (I assume), but you have to pity the creator.

>>2271934
At least he/she's part of the fanbase. If you condone this shit anime you can hardly call yourself a fan of yuri..

>>2272019
Quit defending yourself. It's pathetic.

>>2272019

I think the same way too. I mean, I kinda will tolerate some het but I feel like these people are defending it. Why put het in yuri, you're ruining it for both groups of people. At the very best, show it off screen at least.

I haven't watched it but brother-sister incest? Like really? That's not even yuri anymore it's a product of the author's sick fantasies.

Anyway, fuck these people who are trying to normalize het.

>>2273092
I think that's OK as personal opinion. But at the same time there shouldn't be crusades against anime/manga for EVERY single instance of heterosexual stuff. Not just with this, but with Octave for example.

Basically, the difference between "I don't like this" and "this should be banned".

Imagining complaints if the brother had been a sister instead:
a) incest is disgusting
b) netorare plots are disgusting
c) the incestuous sex wasn't shown
d) the sister got almost no characterization
e) the sister tragically died, and off-screen too
f) there wasn't a threesome
g) Aaya is a slut for having sex with her sister
h) Aaya is a bitch for being reluctant to have sex with her tragically dying sister
i) Kiiko is a bitch for not being more sympathetic about the tragically dying sister
j) the sister was a better ship with Kiiko
etc.

>>2273125
Haha, nice.
You know, not that I needed such eye-openers, but yeah, if the NTR/emoblackmail was a girl, that would make me hate it (a lot).
It being a brother = the mess becomes completely rossy.

>>2273125
>>2273163

63 I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.

But for me, if the brother had been a sister, I felt that it would have been perfectly acceptable.

Of course there would be complaints, there always are complaints. But the complaints won't be about if it's real yuri or acceptable yuri or not, it'll be about how shitty the plot is.

Also:

>f) there wasn't a threesome

is a personally legitamite concern

also

Sister sister incest is hot af
Lesbian NTRing with other lesbians is hot af

No regrets

>>2273098
>opinion

You know what, you're kinda right. Reading Octave right now and the het is pretty tolerable.

I'm not the one to crusade for purity, I just think it's preferable.

>>2273125
So basically similar complaints only framed in a /u/ manner? Not a surprise. You'd probably get something similar if if the romantic interest was a boy. However your post was made to attract idiots and you've already achieved that.

>>2273165
>But for me, if the brother had been a sister, I felt that it would have been perfectly acceptable.

Presumably that is what their point was. People complain about the het and the incest/ntr/whatever as if both were bad but if you just changed the first thing few people would complain.

>>2273165
I would hate onee-sama dying. Even if she was a rapist, willing to emotionally scar her imouto, and whatnot.

Girl dying = depressing!
Brother dying = life goes on. Oh wait, he was kinda sick in the head. Proceed, everyone.

>>2273175
Not gonna lie, yuri rapists are hot.

>>2273212
I agree.

Yuri is all about purity.

That's why garbage like het sex or toys don't belong in yuri.

If you disagree you should go to /lgbt/

>>2273281
That is insanely narrow minded nee-san.

>>2273281
You're dumb.

I don't mind them putting bit of lesbian parts in het hentais but I do mind putting het in yuri. And just so you know, double standard does not apply here, it'd be like comparing a pearl with faeces. The plot was alright in general but the cause of conflict should've been a different thing, maybe an older sister instead.

I bet most people on /u/ would dump their girlfriend if she got raped by a dude, because she's now impure.

>>2273312
>implying anyone on /u/ could get a girlfriend

>>2273312
No, but I'd baptise her with a priestess to clean her of the het-filth.

>>2273312
This is not /a/

>>2273505
True.
This somehow manages to be worse than /a/.

>>2273312
She was not raped
That's why its stupid

>>2273583
That's the problem if she was raped it would have more sense, but her doing it just her sick brother asked her for a fuck is just too idiotic to handle.

Ok, the het in octave was good and tolerable because:

It was a story about coming of age, having het in it makes it realistic. It definitely made the story more believable.

It developed the characters and advanced their relationship

Yuri won

Overall, it added to the story.

in kuttsukiboshi, het (het incest too, wtf) was added because the author had a fetish that he wanted to self insert into. It really didn't do anything besides make everyone feel super uncomfortable.

Anyway, fucking trainwreck.

>>2273306

I think you're exactly right. This was a yuri hentai, why'd they have to put het in?

And an older sister plot device would have been much better.

>>2274412
Because we would have gotten off to the older sister one.

Like what was said upthread, if it had been a girl instead of a dude loads of people would have preferred the older sisterxmain girl instead of main girlxmain girl.

Which is a weird way of saying the disgust at the het was partially intentional, I guess.

>>2274441
>Like what was said upthread, if it had been a girl instead of a dude loads of people would have preferred the older sisterxmain girl instead of main girlxmain girl.

I mean, that's a pretty decent argument and that's the only one I'll accept so far.

But it's hentai, who cares which couple we like. It's better than having the mood completely killed by brother sister incest (rape?).

Also, if it was an older sister, they could have had a threesome. Also, imagine the yuri rape possibilities (the first part of episode 2 was so hot, imagine the revenge if the older sibling was a sister.)

>>2274457

>yuri rape

yes

>>2274457
>But it's hentai, who cares which couple we like. It's better than having the mood completely killed by brother sister incest (rape?).
>Also, if it was an older sister, they could have had a threesome. Also, imagine the yuri rape possibilities (the first part of episode 2 was so hot, imagine the revenge if the older sibling was a sister.)

That's kind of the thing, I think? Been a long time since I saw it so I don't remember how porn-y it was, but I don't remember getting off to it (much, the scene where the psychic girl was bound was really hot) and mostly took it as a fairly lewd love story by the end. As much as I would enjoy some actual yuri hentai with a love triangle (the only time I would like a love triangle probably) I think the romantic angle here might not work as well if we had a sister instead.

It's hard to explain my thoughts on this for some reason. The gist of it is that while I don't like the het, I think the story wouldn't work with a sister instead, and it felt to me like they were trying to do a plot with porn instead of a porn with plot. If it had been just straight porn, I would really want there to be a sister and all kinds of lewd scenes involving her, but as a story the guy is much easier to hate for what he does which is half his purpose, the other half being to create some (pretty shitty) drama which then leads to the disconnect between the two lovers>sortof yuri rape>make up>happy end.

You could do the same story with a sister instead of a brother, but I would get off to the scene with her sister and be rooting for her to be in more scenes instead of hoping they die of cancer sooner.

Though I do now really wish there was a yuri threesome hentai with some level of nonconsent in it now.

>>2274457
>>2274477
It's not hentai, just ecchi. There is no explicit sex that would warrant 18+, and what's more, doesn't even have nipples drawn.

>>2274457
>But it's hentai
It wasn't a hentai.
They showed no nipples or VAGINA

>>2274553
regardless of wether it was a hentai or not, it really was a shit show

>>2274553
I kind like that. Somehow it managed to make it feel more like a story about a relatioship instead of shallow ecchi.

>>2274565
>Somehow it managed to make it feel more like a story about a relatioship instead of shallow ecchi.
Yeah, which is why
>>2274441
is right, an onee-san rape wouldn't jive with the tone.

It was garbage and anyone unironically defending it needs to drink bleach. End of story.

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>>2274611
BS

We need more onee-san rape

>>2274772
It is garbage

>>2275135

Or yuri rape in general

with a happy ending of course

>>2277125
>happy ending
You don't get what rape is, do you?

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>>2274773
I'm now calling lesbian sex "a private moment between friends".

>>2274773
>oh that's right I have psychic powers

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>>2277348
>corrupting little kids
Aaya a veritable modern Socrates

>>2277238

Yuri is always happy

>>2277488
they will have lots of sex

>>2250159
This shit still hurts. Honestly I don't even care about the het part as much as that it just went completely retarded and off the rails. If they had a het scene but the plot actually was coherent and sane, it could have been fine. Instead a super cute premise with lots of potential took the steepest nose-dive I have ever witnessed.

It really makes me sad on a level beyond just watching a bad anime because it had so many great ideas. The premise of a psychic girl and the necklace and stuff was super cute, the character designs and art style were unique (even if the actual animation quality was questionable to say the least, but hey, not a professional studio), and actually the ending was kind of interesting, it had a lot of good to work with and episode 1 was filled with some really cute scenes. Then for some reason they decided to throw all that away in favor of incest, kidnapping, borderline rape and molestation, and just general degeneracy apropos of nothing. They could have made a cute story and instead decided to go for some sort of bizarre fetish piece. I don't get it at all.

>>2277125
Honestly these type of people scare me, like are you all sociopaths or just ignorant? I don't know how you could not feel a little bit sick with yourself after jacking off to that type of thing. I'm not one to be autistic and triggered about shit posted on an internet image board but its more like how you would be uncomfortable around someone who used to torture small animals as a child. If you ever knew someone you cared about who was raped I hope you would have a different perspective because it isn't a happy ending type of thing.

Not to derail the thread or anything. It was a shit thread anyway though.

>>2277488
But yuri is the cleansing.

>>2280201
This

>>2280205
Scare? Why. I mean, torturing of animals is bad.

But yuri rape is awesome because it's yuri. And no, I don't feel sick with myself, fuck off moralfag. The best is when they become friends with each other at the end like kuttsukiboshi. It's soo hot.

I liked the supplementary mangas.

>>2280201
Blame the producers.