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Anything that doesn't fit anywhere else that is fanfiction goes here.

Last thread >>2197829

Also, what tags that aren't ones that automatically disqualify something from being yuri do you hate the most?
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>>2217235
threesome f/f/m

also what are some good uber au fics
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>>2217280
>that don't automatically disqualify something from being yuri

Also what au?
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>>2217235
lesbian polyamory. I just don't see how poly in general can work.

also major character death
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>>2217235
Unresolved sexual tension. If you build it up, then resolve it.

High school AU. Dull, uninteresting. The AU setup with the least potential.

Polyamory. I can't suspend my disbelief and actually imagine this ever working out.

Second person narration. I'm sure someone out there likes this, but I've never been able to stomach it myself.
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Poly relationships work if the people involved all have the necessary traits for it
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>>2217235

Cafe/Coffee Shop AU. Surely you can make it fit inside canon, if not just go write original shit

Second Person narration. Just can't read it. It sounds weak.
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>>2218077
> Poly relationships work if the people involved all have the necessary traits for it
Right. My roommate in college was poly. She had a main boyfriend, and a side lover. It's something you can do while you're young, but I can't see anyone 40+ in a poly relationship.
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>>2218497
In fiction, good poly involves everyone being in love with everyone else in that relationship.
The only actually good ones I can think of are from Dissonance.
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>>2217235
>Also, what tags that aren't ones that automatically disqualify something from being yuri do you hate the most?
Slowburn. I don't want to read through 30 chapters before the relationship develops beyond friends. Can you even call it yuri anymore if less than a third of the story actually has any f/f?
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>>2217287
shit read it wrong sorry
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>>2218497
Such relationships do exist, though. Read about the creator of Wonder Woman some time.

>>2218505
I really like this one: http://archiveofourown.org/works/8277868
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>>2218506
The problem with slow burn as a tag is that it can mean absolutely anything from a well-paced 50k fic to 500k words of horrible bloat.
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Couldn't find the symphogear thread

Symphogear, Tsubasa x Chris
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12282417/1/The-Sound-of-Wings-and-Snow
http://archiveofourown.org/works/8936947
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Can't believe there are now people on /u/ unironically defending "polyamory." You should all leave and never come back.
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>>2219448
>implying this is new behavior
>or that it's somehow anti-/u/
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>>2219448
hownew.ru
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>>2219448
The only difference between poly and harem is that in poly, the harem also fucks each other
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>My wife's girlfriend.
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>>2219536
>My wife's girlfriend is also my wife and my girlfriend
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>my wife's girlfriend's daughter's childhood friend
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>my senpai's senpai is my kouhai
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>>2217235
Canon Retelling.
What's the point?
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Actually, I think that this one is fine. The point is to recreate the story with subtext converted to maintext, and it has the advantage of not relying on the already dubious writing skills of a fanfic author any more than absolutely necessary.
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>>2219629
for >>2219621
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>>2219629
>>2219631
That would be ideal, but the ones I've read are extremely dry and add almost nothing while using just the lines from the original, not even any inner dialogue. I guess I've just yet to come across a good one.
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>>2219635
I read a pretty good Stargate retelling that goes through most of season 1 from a Sam/Janet slant. Never finished, but each fic is standalone so it's pretty satisfying.
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>>2219635
RPGs lend themselves fairly well for retellings. I wrote a rought draft of one myself just to get some writing done, but I don't know if I'll ever publish it. It was a good way to get started writing, but it's also a bit of pain in the way how it constricts your writing.
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>>2218497
i know two poly couples that are fine, but more that are just messes. it seems like that lifestyle has attracted a lot of the mentally ill.
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>>2219635
if they stick 100% to canon then yeah there's no point, but retellings allow for interesting "side material"
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>>2219696
Yeah exactly. Expanding on backstories, adding more scenes for interaction, filling in minor blanks and all that. At times I wish for fics that only did that and left out most of the canon stuff. It makes the story jumpy, but it's better than having to sit through tens of thousands of words of unimaginative scene-for-scene retelling
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>>2219696
I just don't think I can read a word-for-word novelisation of the Dragon Age Inquisition opening scene again.
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>all this people dissing polyamory
Nobody here watched Yuyushiki or what?
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>>2218077
>Poly relationships work if the people involved all have the necessary traits for it

So you're basically saying poly relationships work..if they work.

What kind of statement is that.
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>>2220298
Not that anon, but it's a correct one.

Though it's also not the one you might have wanted or really an overall helpful one.
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>>2220343
It's a nonsensical one. There are always exceptions to the rules and that's fine, storytelling is often about those exceptions and that's what makes them memorable.

But poly relationships - we're not talking about love triangles here - but actual relationships and believable ones? Yea, good luck with that. Wouldnt take that chance in life and wouldnt trust one in writing either.
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>>2220298
Anon is implying that it is possible for people to have the necessary traits for poly relationships to work.

I don't know enough about it to say, but I'm willing to accept it in fiction. It takes far less suspension of belief for me than some of the crazy settings in many /u/ fanfic, anyway.
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>>2220298
I could try to explain why those polys I know work but you'd need to at least be familiar with two seasons of precure for that, possibly three

>>2220365
Go over to the precure thread and ask them if LoveSetsuEllen is a good working poly or not
Or ManaRikkaRegina
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Does anyone have any fanfic recs for stories that are similar to this?
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/8321764/1/Oscillation
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>>2220908
ain't nobody got time for precure
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>>2220424
>some of the crazy settings in many /u/ fanfic

like what?
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>>2217235
crossovers. Even if the characters are all girls and there is yuri, I just don't like any kind of crossover. Even worse if there is a crossover pairing.
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>>2217235
oh yeah, I've said in a previous thread, but I dislike christmas/halloween/new year/holidays fanfics.
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>>2220989
Say what you will, but wizened_cynic's L&O:SVU/Gilmore Girls crossover is still one of the most entertaining things I have ever read in my life.
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>>2220989
But crossover yuri pairings are GOAT, pleb.
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>>2220983
It's not specific to /u/ fanfics, but I mean things like the existence of magic, aliens, demons, etc.

Those are all much more implausible to me than there being some people whose personalities are such that they can happily exist in stable polyamorous relationships.
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>>2221523
Wait, so you just dislike fantasy/sci-fi?
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>>2221525
No, I actually like those things. But they all require a certain degree of suspension of belief. Especially the way they're treated in anime, where the ramifications of such incredible things existing are usually not fully fleshed out, and the world largely remains identical to ours despite them.

Compared to things like that, a girl being in a loving relationship with more than one girl doesn't seem all that far-fetched to me.
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>>2220989
Crossover pairings are horrible because they take two characters who have never interacted before, and don't even live in the same universe, and somehow put them together. Crossover stories in general can be fun though, seeing how two sets of dissimilar characters from completely opposite universes interact. You can get fun mixes of sci-fi and fantasy, or light fantasy and super heavy fantasy.
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RPF. Give me the most fucked up fictional shit and i'll be 100% ok with it, but the second ships involve real people, that shit's weird. Unless it's obviously meant to be over-the-top and tongue-in-cheek.
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Why are there so many French Clexa fics on ao3? Is this fandom big in France or something?
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>>2221604
>not reading Tegan & Sarah fanfiction

But it's so pure.
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>>2220921
Wow, that was a weird read. What the hell, man.
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>>2221604
yes, same.
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>>2221691
Yeah I haven't found anything quite like it but I enjoy the surreal mystery aspect of it...

Too bad about that cliffhanger though.
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>She felt a thick slug enter her mouth, and then their tongues began battling for dominance. She could faintly taste the other girl's lunch. Saliva swirled back and forth between them and, moaning, she hungrily gulped down as much of the mixed fluids as she could.

Rate my kiss scene please.
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>>2222411
Nasu without seafood/5
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>>2222411
>slug
Is it bad if I assumed you were talking about a bullet?
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>>2219621
This. I never even got why canon is reveried. It's by definition unachievable, hence limiting oneself arbitrarily is just nul. Nothing is gained, only potential lost.

The greatest offenders may be among Mass Effect stories. Every second one is a retelling of ME2 from exactly the same tilted take on the universe, the plot and the characters with only different sad gimmicks to give an illusion of novelty. Literal regurgitation.
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>>2221563
>Crossover pairings are horrible because they take two characters who have never interacted before, and don't even live in the same universe, and somehow put them together.
And that's not fun?
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>>2222411
>She felt a thick slug enter her mouth
Don't describe a tongue like that.
>she hungrily gulped down as much of the mixed fluids as she could.
How is that sexy?

You need to work on your descriptions.
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>>2222411
I want to see an actual fight scene between the tongues.

Some tongue-fu, if you will.
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>>2220989
>>2221563
Crossover pairings are great because they take two characters who have never interacted before, and don't even live in the same fictional universe, and seamlessly weave them into a singular and novel perspective of both. Crossover stories in general can be shit though, seeing how two sets of essentially same characters from totally different and unique universes interact. You can get uninspired wrecks of YA and FOTM, or PG and edge.
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>>2222411
>slug

I don't want to think about some disgusting slimy mollusc while reading yuri.
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>>2222525
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>>2222411
>slug
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>>2222492
problem is, I usually start shipping something because of their interactions in the canon material.
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>>2222625
That's literal easy mode shipping.
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>>2222724
>literal
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>>2222826
literal
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>>2222834
>>>>>literal
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Looks like a Girls and Panzer fic is coming soon, Kei / Darjeling
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>>2222842
LITERAL
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It's probably just the oldfag in me speaking but there's something about ao3 fanfics that make them eerily similar with each other no matter what the genre, pairing or fandom. Anyone feels this way? It's like back in early 2000 when everyone wrote angst in a particular way. Not complaining as most authors I follow have this kind of 'way' of writing it's just that sometimes it feels like I'm reading someone trying to emulate someone.
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>>2222411
where did you find this exquisite excerpt of profound literature?

>>2223047
are they all in present tense? i feel like there's been a shift towards that recently.

>tfw read too much fanfic and got stuck writing in it
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>>2223057

>tfw read too much fanfic and got stuck writing in it

Preach. I don't mind it depending if it's written well, or a ship I like, but I try to stick to past tense. Present only gets abused for drabbles because it's short.
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>>2223057
>tense
I wonder why I heavily dislike reading in present tense, yet feel awkward writing in past tense. It's always a conscious effort to write in past tense, never a second nature. I don't even read that many fics in present tense to be influenced.
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>>2222443
Please don't make out with loaded guns, even if they're female.
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>>2223193
What if you're also a loaded female gun?
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>>2223212
What's the most lesbian kind of gun?
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http://archiveofourown.org/works/4628151
Triss x Yennefer. Not mine
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>>2223458
A Colt M1911.

But proper elegant ladies shouldn't touch guns.
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>>2223532
Why? Guns are sexy. Besides, those delicate imoutos and kouhais need to be protected from coerced into rape somehow.
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next Overheat (neptunia fanfic) update when?
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>>2224969
Probably not before january. she sometimes gets super addicted to one game and it eats all her time.
Kuugen released a bunch of stuff for other fandoms though, kancolle, symphogear and girls and panzer
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How do you make the romance not rushed?
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>>2226781
That depends entirely on the personalty on the characters involved, but generally, you observe real people for a while and base it on that.
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>>2226781
Simple. Have characters interact for a while, instead of instant "love". Lust is fine, but love needs characters.
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>>2226781
This fic is a great example of unrushed romance.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/3711367/chapters/10339329
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What fandom has a lot of /u/ stuff in it that I can lose myself in for a week or so? I've burned through all of the 100 fan fiction worth anything on AO3.
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>>2227035
Life Is Strange or anything by Bioware.
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>>2227036
>there is no F!Shepard/Tali anywhere on the internet

Criminal.
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>>2226781
>not rushed

You could make a million chapters I guess. But the bottom line is don't do that because you know you're not gonna keep up.

So why write a dozen chapters when you can wrap it up in three or five? Have a realistic expectation of your abilities as a writer and passion as a fan.
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>>2227036
Already read all of the Max/Kate on the site.

I'll move on to some Dragon Age.
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>>2227050
>Max/Kate

Glad to see someone else here has good taste.
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>>2227050
>>2227371
>Not Max/Victoria
Plebs.
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Is there a way to only search for/show stories above or below a certain threshold of words on Ao3?
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>>2227545
In the "search within results" bar, type words:>X for above X words, and <X for below.
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>>2227612
Thanks anon
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I used to really like the Kim Possible scene because some of the stories weren't hackneyed "girl falls in love with girl and becomes a complete lack of a character" plots. Kim and Shego would constantly fight and bicker and there would be a real back and forth relationship dynamic. Some Buffy fiction did the same thing.

Anything come out recently in that spirit? /u/ with rivals or fighting or something? I've gotten through most of the Kill la Kill stuff since that was close.
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>>2227504
Victoria is horrible and you should feel horrible. Kate is the only girl for Max.
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>>2227640
Sorry, I have no recs, but I'd like to say that I love yuri in which rivals become lovers. I wish people would write rivals to lovers about Purple Heart and Black Heart. C'mon, they had a nice rivalry in RB1, I wanted to see more of that.
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>>2227645
>more people would write

I haven't read any Neptunia stuff, so it's all new to me. Give recs.
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>>2227657
there are barely any good yuri nep fics, the fic scene is crawling with OC-Gary Stu self insert
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>>2227642
But Kate's religion forbids love between two girls.

Checkmate.
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>>2227707
She's Protestant, she basically makes her religion up as she goes along.
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>>2227657
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12205169/1/Unlikely-Partnership
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>>2221536
changing the world is quite a bit different from changing human nature, which is essentially what is required for polyamorous relationships to work
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>>2227832
tbqh polyamory is absolutely deranged shit that belongs on /d/, not here.
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>>2227640
Speaking of KP, anyone know of any fics where KiGo stays with the whole rival thing even after the romance has developed?
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>>2227670
There is Overheat, but that is best very cautiously recommended because the first 20 chapters are a drastic departure from the standard Neptune fare
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>>2227846
Don't know of many good kigo fics period. Seems like almost everything is horribly amateurish, even by the standards of fanfiction.
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>>2219448
>>2227832
>People actually have the guts liking what I hate?! Such a blasphemy!
>Something I dislike definitely deranged and don't belongs here.
Oh, /u/!

All this talk about poly-yuri fic makes me want to read one. Any recommendation?
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>>2228159

>>2227832 meant for >>2227834
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The poly discussion lasted too long already.

can we bitch about something else?
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>>2227904
that's why I don'r rec it, I know most people will probably dislike it.

and there's also the Proposal, but imo it feels like an infinite mexican soap opera, so whatever. There are some really cute and sweet moments, but the rest is meh.
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>>2228376
Sure. I'm sick of the whole dom/sub roles that writers throw into fan fiction these days. When I read a 100 fic, I don't instantly want to see Clark roll over for everything Lexa does.

Maybe Clark wants to be the big spoon once in awhile. Maybe Buffy wants to wear the daddy pants every now and again. Fucking show some literary range, you pieces of shit.
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>>2227822
this one started great, but then it kinda dropped the ball and stopped updating for a while.
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>>2228381
I still think it is worth a try if you warn them ahead of time that this is not going to be your standard Neptunia fare fic.
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People need to stop doing that same old ships everyone already done and do something original. I mean, why do it when somebody done it already, and probably better too?
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>>2228382
That has been going on for a long time. It's pretty entry level if they can't spruce things up and intermix it.
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>>2228505
It's fanfiction, it's not about originality. Why would you write something for a pairing you're not passionate about?
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>>2227943
I've never seen a good Kigo fic that didn't massacre Shego's personality. I'm not even sure it's possible, since her whole shtick is "generic super villain." I can't really see her falling in love as written, and I really can't see her giving up villainy.
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>>2228818
Have you read: Alone, Together ? The only good Kigo fic ive ever read.
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Wasn't there another site for kigo alongside ffn?
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>>2228820
Yeah, that's the one everyone always recommends. I wasn't a fan.
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>>2228818
Best Sidekick Possible is a great one.

Avoid any of the StarvingLunitic stuff. She is massively overrated in the fandom.
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>>2228818
So corrupt Kim instead if you can't turn Shego good
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>>2228859
Haven’t been a fan since her Hime/Otome stuff. The only thing going for her is technical proficiency in English and how prolific she is. Other than that I always find her work ridden with nonsensical wish fulfillment and fanon characterisation.
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>>2229041
>So corrupt Kim
But nobody ever does that outside of porn.
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you girls have no idea how many Fang x Lightning (FFXIII) fics I've read in which the author depics Fang as a complete retard. Sure, she is playful sometimes, but she is not an idiot.
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>>2227832
You do realize that polyamorous relationships are a real thing that real people engage in and not just a fanfic trope, right?
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have you guys ever seen an author changing/rewriting a fic's chapter (or more than 1 chapter) cause they had a better idea or for any reason? Is it common for fic authors to rewrite chapters?
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>>2229345
Necrophilia is also a real thing people engage in.
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Man I'm the kinda person who's usually sitting around with a big backlog of /u/ stuff, some fics, some webcomics, some webserials, etc. But now I've completely burnt through every single one and I dunno what to do with myself any more. Finding new fics I'm interested in is so damn impossible these days, and shit's barely updating over Christmas so I can't sustain myself with what I've caught up to either.
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>>2229399
Go read Kuugen's stuff, you'll never finish all that.
Just the Neptunia and Pretty Cure fics together are like 1.2 million words plus some odd 100-200k for oneshots and other stuff
I gave up on ever starting those infinitely long fics and just read the oneshots now
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>>2229446
Not only have I already read it (besides whatever recent chapters she's added) but her stuff doesn't appeal that much to me. Partly it's that her plots always end up (or start off) hard to take seriously, but mostly I'm just not very interested in Precure or Neptunia or what-have-you.

I actually give a lot of things a shot, and even finish reading through an okay amount, but they all end up falling very short of something I love for one reason or another. Uninspired writing, aimless nonsense plot, boring characters, repetitive storytelling, the same re-used events and reactions I'm used to seeing in every fic, etc. Or it's simply just not my genre, my kinda characters, whatever. I mean when I say I'm caught up it means I'm now fully up to date on all four(4) fics I've found worth keeping up on, so my standards are pretty specific. Well, I guess you could add Inter Nos to that but at this point I'm starting to think it really is dead.
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>>2229462
Actually looking at it, I suppose I'm following more webserials than fics at the moment which is pretty amusing since I only started looking for them this year while I've read fics for over a decade (and indeed all the ones I'm closely following are many years old at this point).
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>>2229363
Yeah, it's common. Go ahead and dot it.
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>>2229396
Yes, and if someone tried to insist necrophilia is impossible because it's contrary to human nature, the same argument would apply. Do try to keep up.
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>>2229543
It's like trying to argue that sexual dimorphism is wrong because of XXY people or whatever. Those are defects, perversions, what happens when things go wrong. Human nature referse to HUMAN nature, not accidents that happen while trying to produce a human.
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>>2229606
You can keep crying but poly is not /d/ and you will not stop people from discussing it
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>>2229462
Well, no joke, if you're not a die hard of Precure or Neptunia, you shouldn't read 500.000+ word stories of that. Chances are you won't enjoy it.
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>>2229606
There's clearly no point in continuing with someone who either tries to change the topic or can't come up with anything better than fallacies seventh graders are taught to avoid.
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I want battle /u/. I don't care what fandom, I don't care what pairing, but I want something that's not a cookie cutter story of a dom and a sub orbiting each other for a dozen chapters.

Give me blood. Give me violence. Give me fighting and arguments and betrayal. Please, people. I'm going crazy.
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>>2229067
>technical proficiency in English

Everything she writes reads like an industrial machinery instruction manual.
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>>2229630
Go ahead and point out any "fallacies" in my post, but otherwise all I see here is someone admitting they've lost.
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>>2229662
dunno, maybe The Hunger Games might have fics like that
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>>2229698
That's a textbook No True Scotsman fallacy, and irrelevant to the discussion. The original poster (you?) claimed that polyamorous relationships are impossible, and now you're trying to talk about whether they're moral or normal, using an argument that could just as easily be applied to homosexuals.
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>>2229730
>That's a textbook No True Scotsman fallacy

lol no

>you're trying to talk about whether they're moral or normal,

Don't put words in my mouth. Provide a quote of me saying anything about morality.

>using an argument that could just as easily be applied to homosexuals

This criticism is nonsensical; the argument wasn't applied to homosexuals and the correctness of an argument in one case is not in general relevant to the correctness of an argument in any case.
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>>2229662
Inter Nos?
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How annoyed are people going to be if you don't portray a relationship accurately in a sex fic, or get the magic spells totally right?
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>>2229662
overwatch, person of interest, fallout and marvel (i've only read blackhill) have some bloody action fics.

as for betrayal, are you thinking like gone girl tier people being shitty to each other? cause i love that shit too but i can't remember any good /u/ fics featuring really fucked relationships that aren't... overdone. there's one in overwatch where the characters cheat on each other but it's pretty retarded on the exaggerated angst level.

i'm working on a new vegas fic with an unhealthy relationship but it needs like 3k more words and has a happy ending.
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>>2229825
>marvel
>there are zero long Jubes/X23 fics out there
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>>2229808
>How annoyed are people going to be if you don't portray a relationship accurately in a sex fic

I'd probably not even notice because I'm a virgin and have never dated anyone.
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>>2229844
Are you me?
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>>2229845
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The more I read my sexfic the more OOC I realize everybody is and how much of a fix fic it is. Fuck.
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>>2229471
Where do you find webserials? Because the only one I know of is Carmilla.
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>>2229730
See >>2229630

It's good advice.
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>>2229662
After the Vault (Fallout): https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4357692/1/After-the-Vault
Also Harry Potter and RWBY have a lot like that, too many to list.
If you want lies and betrayal, the first that comes to mind is Alice (http://archiveofourown.org/works/992242) which is really twisted erotica. Her other work All Red has much more violence but less lies, and the story fizzles out after 1/3rd.
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>>2229958
>Alice

Freakish. That was the fic I had in mind when I made my post. It has absolutely everything.
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>>2229662
See
>>2229446
Especially the neptunia fic is full of violence, blood, betrayal and world ending scenarios. No surprise there, it's a story about a world war with super powered people and all the family friendly armor stripped off.
The precure fic at least has fighting every single chapter.

You said any fandom, but I still think you should not bother if you're not into those fandoms a lot.
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>>2229845

Different virgin anon. We should start a (host) club.

>>2229841

That's because the days of X-men are practically over, and X-men femslash isn't common. I might have a poke around at a oneshot or something for Jubilee/X-23, see what comes about.
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>>2229853
Get it it close enough and nobody will mind. If the readers are as eager to see the characters fuck as you are, it's not a big deal.
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>>2229881
Well, Carmilla's a youtube serial isn't it? I'm talking about written serials a la Worm (not that I bothered with Worm, no /u/ there as far as I heard).
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>>2230135
I know there's at least one lesbian side character, but I haven't read it all to know what happens with her.

Considering how bleak the setting is though, she's probably dead.
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>>2230135
If I recall correctly Worm does have at least one canon /u/ relationship (between EXTREMELY minor side characters). Also there is a bunch of fanfic for various pairings. Worm is a great story in its own right until around chapter 12, then it goes downhill fast. I thought there was some serious /u/ potential between Skitter and Tattletale, but Skitter ends up getting blacked instead, extremely disappointing.
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>>2230147
Oh, forgot to add, there is also some more... fucked up /u/-related stuff that happens and actually is a relatively big part of the plot at various points, but it's not really "romance."
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>>2230145
>>2230147
Considering the size of the story I'd need more than minor side character for my delivery of /u/. I'm also the opposite of a cape fan so it's not like I'm otherwise very interested in reading it either. It's still the biggest one around so easiest to explain with.
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>>2230153
I'm kinda surprised the more /u/-related ones aren't more popular, feel like they have bigger readership than half the books in the lit thread. Fanfics they ain't though.
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>>2230159
What are the major /u/-related ones?
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>>2230165
Well, I dunno if I really have control of every webserial with /u/ out there. The biggest one that's /u/-related is probably the garbagefire that is Tales of MU, but uh...don't read it. Just trust me. I can throw up a couple posts on the stuff I'm reading though.

http://www.koryoswrites.com/earthcast/
This is probably the most /u/ story I'm reading. I kinda didn't expect to like it but I ended up doing so. It's got a lot of story elements that aren't exactly original but are fairly uncommon so end up refreshing. My main issue one is simply about the storytelling: it really has an issue where things go good, but then bad thing happen, but don't worry that means good thing happen, but oh no now bad thing happen, but...just over and over. It gets a bit tiresome for me to be honest. But I like the main characters.

/u/ status: 100% gay

https://practicalguidetoevil.wordpress.com/
Might be more popular than Tales of MU now, and for actual good reason unlike that abomination. Quite entertaining and character-focused, I was surprised that despite kinda finding the concept pretty YA I didn't feel the same way about the writing thus far...for the most parts. There are a few smaller parts that fall a bit in that direction like the silly explosive animal stuff but overall I like it a lot anyway. As for the story itself, it's kinda military fantasy a la Black Company or the Malazan series for those who like that. Probably my favorite currently.

/u/ status: Good for now. The MC is bi so that's a red flag, might as well be up-front about it. On the plus side the author really doesn't seem to want to have her show attraction to people in general much and it's barely come up like twice in passing. Her current and so far only lover is another chick and even if their thing were to end which there's no sign of yet, there's zero likely guys around at the moment at least.
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>>2230169
https://towercurator.wordpress.com/
The writing is kinda awkward to me and additionally it's probably the least /u/ of the ones I'm posting - I'm not sure it'll end up with any kind of romance. So why am I posting it? Well, I still have a soft spot for it, and while perhaps it won't be technically yuri, I still got plenty out of the MC and her demon anyway. They're really cute! To me at least. Anyway, there's definitely no risk of het here, for the MC. Not a ton of it in general really though it does have some indecent demons of either gender show up from time to time. I feel like the writing is gonna be hit or miss for people - I'm hardly impressed by it overall but for whatever reason it doesn't bother me despite the issues I have with it.

/u/ status: Mostly just adorable rather than romantic, but who knows in the future.

http://lsdell.com/
To be honest, I'm not really a fan of Taint's writing-style or its setting much. It's certainly very much a weeb-style webserial and would fit in great in a discussion on webnovels probably. It takes a lot from both Japanese stuff and wuxia, neither of which I'm big on and the actual writing style is reminiscent of translated webnovels which I frankly dislike (though it does better than most translations at least). However, I still keep reading it because it's got /u/ and because the ridiculous powerlevels can still be entertaining the way popcorn is nice to eat even though it has no substance or nourishment. I'm sure anons who like webnovels/wuxia stuff would get more out of it.

/u/ status: Strong. MC is kinda childish and might not have any romance, but she only cares about her onee-chan so that's cute at least! It's also has a prominent secondary character who's basically a lesbian pimp fucking every girl she comes across, which delivers on the yuri. No risk of het for either.
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>>2230171
https://ceruleanscrawling.wordpress.com/
Despite what I said about Taint, this might be my least favorite of the ones I'm listing. For one, this is definitely the one that feels the most like YA stuff to me both in terms of plot or writing, and just like I'm not a fan of webnovels and such I'm not exactly a big fan of YA writing either. Second, it's got the most het of them all...kinda...it's complicated. I'm not terribly impressed by the plot and the characters can get kinda grating in some ways, and I'm not really selling it am I. Well, if you don't mind a very YA set-up and writing, I'd say give it a shot anyway. Even if parts of the MC's story felt a little edgy.

/u/ status: Should probably just read the spoiler this time. So this is another bi protagonist, and unlike Practical Guide to Evil, this one loooves to comment on how hot people are - including guys. Lots of swooning over manabs here. HOWEVER somehow the main character has clearly been set up with two actual romance options however much she might drool at other buys and girls...and they're both chicks. So good right if you can ignore the other unimportant shit? Well kinda...there's a lot of hints that it'll go poyamorous between them which, well, first means anyone who doesn't like that should not bother with this one either. And secondly it means, while there's CURRENTLY no guy in any position to romance, who knows if one might pop up in the future if we're in polyamory anyway right? now that said I'm not actually very scared of that. I'm pretty sure both the LIs are lesbians and not bi - one definitely is and one is basically confirmed but not 100% - which would make that awkward, and anyway I really doubt the author would want to spend the time introducing even MORE romance for the MC especially since they spend a fair amount of time on secondary couples too. But even then, aggressively ogling bi MC and potentially polyamorous lesbian relationship is where we're at.
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>>2230176
Anyone who has other /u/-related ones feel free to mention them since I'd love to know more. Perhaps we should have gone to the /u/ lit thread or something for it though, they're not exactly fanfics and anons could probably report this and get it deleted if they wanted.
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>>2230178
Thanks for the info, nee-san. It was quite informative.
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>>2230508
No worries, I'm happy if someone got some use out of that wall of text at least.
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Anyone read much Evangelion fic? There was a Misato/Ritsuko story on, I think, Deviant Heats, before it died. It was like 10 chapters, 10k words, post-series. I really liked it, and have been trying to find a save or backup or something.
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>>2230653
Not exactly the best franchise for yuri.

I like 'Maya snaps' though.
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>>2230672
Which is a shame, because Maya is a canon lesbian.
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>>2230680
Canon lesbians in Evangelion? Admittedly I watched it a long time ago but I don't remember that.
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>>2230761
I think it was because when everyone was turning into jelly, her vision was that doctor lady whatever.

Been too long cant remember the damn names.
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>>2230766
Ritsuko. But yeah, that's pretty much it.
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>>2229802
I think I'd recommend a stopping point with that one though. At some point it was like a long running TV show that couldn't find a way to end. Still well written and researched, but hard to read.
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>>2230875
Back when I was still in a ShizNat mood I never dared to read that fic because of its length. And I finally finished it in one week last year; the fic is good, some parts are heartwarming, some parts are angsty and some are complicated (especially the battles). Inter Nos did something that other fics can't, it forced me to go and research more about weapons and everything related to Roman, and that in itself deserve a very special place in my heart.
There are only two cons I can think of regarding Inter Nos: the first being that the later chapters' length are long enough to warrant a few minutes of shutted eyes, and the second being that minor characters' development and actions sometimes get boring enough for you to want to put down the fic. But I advise anyone who wants to read this try to pull through those scenes because immediately after there will always be a scene that either have ShizNat or some of our lovable secondary characters.
All in all, this is only my opinion regarding Inter Nos so please read it to form your opinions.
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>>2231012
I can't even imagine having the patience to read a one million word fic. Not to mention the idea of women having power in ancient Roman society is just too grating and unbelievable for me, although I guess this is a problem that exists for any attempt to do lesbians in fantasy worlds and isn't really due to any specific defect of the author.
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>>2231659
Sometimes some authors do create a lot of interesting settings for AU or they interpret the canon in different ways that really makes us go and rewatch the series, but in Inter Nos' case, we don't need to rewatch the series, we just have to have a basic understanding of the characters involved in the fic but inevitably, personalities have to be a little altered for everything to make sense (especially Suzushiro Haruka's).

I caught up with the fic, and in the context of the story I can understand why the author chose to have Natsuki become a cripple because without it, the story would stay stagnant but to come to that the author had have Takeda Masashi made some of the most idiotic choices in every concievable ways possible and resulted in getting a (very) tolerable secondary character killed, not to mention the resulting drama, is almost not worth it.

I truly believe Inter Nos still have its charms, some parts made me smile while reading it but at this point in the story I don't think I'm willing to read it all over again should the author update because, like you said, I don't have the patience to pour through the fic again.
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Can we discuss small things that really pull one out of a fic? Pet peeves, really?

Because I can't stand replacing "and" with &. It's small, but pricks me every single time I see it in a story
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>>2229291
This. Also, ones where the author decides to just make some retarded drama, and then ends the fic with them breaking up for some stupid reason. There are a few too many of those.
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>>2229958
>>2229964
>tfw this crazy biatch stopped writing after delievering a mostly pointless gigantic SoL femHarry Potter sex fic.
I miss her Twilight fics...too bad she never made an actual Rosalie/Bella solo fic.
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>>2229662
First thing I thought of was Republic City Blues, if your into Korrasami (at least as far as I remember) although be careful with the Korrasami fandom, there is a lot of weird trash.
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>>2231012
>minor characters' development and actions sometimes get boring enough for you to want to put down the fic
I'm not sure if it was minor characters exactly but I ended up dropping the fic because it seemed to be bogged down in an eternal quagmire of politics and annoying drama in Rome with none of the stuff I started reading the fic for anywhere in sight.
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>>2231760
I hate characters applying the adjective "adorable" to their love interest, which seems to be really common in fanfiction. Maybe this is a personal quirk, but it always makes the character's feelings seem kind of shallow and insincere to me. I don't think real people think of other real people as "adorable," unless maybe the other person is a baby.
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>>2231814
Oh I almost forgot about the damn politics!

Honestly, the only reason I painstakingly poured through the political sections of the fic is that those are needed to build up to future events. Those parts really tried my patience.

But anyway, does anybody here start shipping two female characters with eachother after reading a fic where female A is paired with male A but the fic bashes female B terribly in order to create drama? In most case, female B is pushed into the role of the love rival of female A and in the end B either end up dead/terribly damaged psychologically and emotionally or get pushed into another guy's arms because the author want to "make everyone happy/get rid of the loose end"?
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>>2231860
>reading het
Good one
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>>2231815
I have to disagree with you, nee-san. Adorable is a cute word - in a fluffy or light fic it's a fine word to use. This might just be a subjective connotation thing.

I like using it in real life when I can because I find the word so cute.
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Intensely dislike alpha/beta/omega tags. Cheap excuse to insert non-con, magic dick, and furry elements into a story. Hate it so much.

Also hate it when authors can't stop referring to their characters by their hair color. Pinkette? Bluenette? Did you forget they had a fucking name?
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Anyone want to lament deleted/ghosted stories of the past year?

Didn't realize all of Ciceu's stories on AO3 had been taken off until about 2 months after the fact. Some nice longish Korrasami and Elsanna one-shots were lost with that although I think most of the Elsanna ones were saved and can be located without too much work.

What I was most sad to see lost were 2-3 long Prince of Egypt one-shots set in really interesting settings/time periods (Moorish Spain, ancient Egypt/Africa) with non-white protagonists (Miriam/Tzipporah was the main pairing in each story). I haven't found a scrap of those stories online since they were deleted off AO3.
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>>2231862
I was young and naive at that time nee-san...

But now every time I remember the fact that I did read those fics I cringed hard, and because of those fics I now develop the ship-the-love-rivals mentality.
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>>2231815
>I don't think real people think of other real people as "adorable," unless maybe the other person is a baby.

im pretty sure i'm a real person, and i definitely apply "adorable" to other adults. unlikely anyone i'd date, but that's a preference thing.

>>2231866
>hate it when authors can't stop referring to their characters by their hair color

i think this is a symptom of people taking the need for word variation in writing the wrong way, and because when you're writing f/f you can't rely on pronouns as much to distinguish characters, so people do weird shit like repeatedly use hair color.

i don't like it either.
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>>2231815
The last girl I was interested in had the most adorable sneezes you will ever see in an adult.
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>>2231866
> what tags that aren't ones that automatically disqualify something from being yuri
ABO is an instant disqualification most of the time.
>>2231815
Adorable is a perfectly usable word to describe someone else. Though personally I tend to use it on those who are significantly shorter than myself
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>>2231866

Can't agree more. There are so many Swanqueen fics now with magic dicks or girl dicks. Where's the appreciation for the magic vagina?

>>2231868

I'm going to have to do some digging and see if I can find copies. I've never heard of Ciceu before now.
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>>2232018
>Where's the appreciation for the magic vagina?
Genderbender?
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>>2231760
I've got one for you. Dream scenes. They're dumb, they break the flow of the story, and most authors just use them as an excuse for all sorts of silly excesses.
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>>2232495
Not /u/, but I'm still mad at NGE: Nobody dies.

Making 30 something chapters full of legitimate plot advancement and character development a "dream" completely stopped me from finishing it or reading the his other big NGE story
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>watch The 100 because /u/ recommended it
>see that it has lots of fan fiction
>spend a few days reading the highest-rated ones
>slowly get angrier and angrier how they gloss over the fact Lexa betrayed Clark and all of her people
>spoils my entire enjoyment of the fandom

Son of a bitch. Every single fic does it.
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>>2232950

No one wants to admit Lexa isn't perfect.
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>>2232950
>watched The 100

This was your first mistake. It's so bad, and not even bad in a fun, campy way like Xena. Should have just watched the Clarke/Lexa scenes on youtube and read a few wiki articles.
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>>2232975
I've noticed that. I want to know what has happened in these writer's lives that they think something as significant as betraying your entire people is something that can be fixed without copious amounts of blood.

When has any human civilization in history ever rolled over like that? It's not even believable.

>>2232978
I recognize that now. The first season was alright, though. Anya was pretty great as an boogieman.
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>>2232950
>>watch The 100 because /u/ recommended it

i'm sorry, i usually try to steer people away from it.

another gripe: when in dialogue every character sounds the same and has the exact same vocabulary. sticks out real bad when they're using my-first-thesaurus words to boot.
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>>2231760
If an author writes "could of", I immediately unfollow, unfavorite, send them a lengthy hate mail, and scream into my pillow.
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>>2232950
>>watch The 100 because /u/ recommended it
Who is the liar that did such a thing? Pretty damn such anyone with a modicum of sense on here will tell you that series is shit.
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>>2231866
>Also hate it when authors can't stop referring to their characters by their hair color. Pinkette? Bluenette? Did you forget they had a fucking name?
Well, how else will you refer to characters with odd colored hair? Sometimes I want to describe traits about them, not just their names.
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>>2233010
It's fine if the description is relevant to what is going on at that time. Such as when you're first describing what the characters looks like. Or when the protagonist picks out her lover from a crowd by the unusual shade of her hair. Or even a romantic moment where she's struck by how blue her eyes are.

The problem is when the author decides to use epithets repeatedly in a scene simply because they're tired of referring to the characters by name or using a pronoun.

Here's a random blog that talks about it that I just found when googling the problem.
http://fandom-grammar.livejournal.com/1062.html
They seem to explain it well.
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>>2233025
I think it's kind of like how amateurs often have their characters remarking, whispering, ejaculating, muttering, shouting, opining, or burbling, instead of just saying something. Mature writers realize that "X said" is all you ever need.
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>>2233025
Here in Germany, we're actually taught in normal school to refrain from writing the same words in short succession in anything. Some teachers can get pissy if you use it again half a damn page later.
At least that's how it's been 15 years ago. Don't know how it's for other countries/languages.
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>>2233078
Yes, exactly.

>>2233087
But surely that only applies to the less frequently used words? Or are you actually taught not to repeat "Ich", "Du", "Ihr" etc. in short succession? That's what this is like.
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>>2233094
Things like "said" ("[x] sagte", und dergleichen). And adjectives, as well as anything more complex than general use words. I don't remember what they said about names, though.
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>>2233098
word variation, when i learned it in english, was mostly focused on adjectives and verbs. general use words aren't usually the subject, but it results in a lot of common verbs like "said" or simple adjectives like colors getting mucked with when they shouldn't. i think we also were told to not use "the" so much.

i think it's a good thing to learn, but understanding how to not fuck it up comes with practice and reading other work.

how is writing going for everyone in the new year? i'm up late and writing porn to sad johnny cash songs.
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You guys want stories to be fucking dull writing-wise. All of you have these beefs over things that don't even matter in the slightest.
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>>2233130
You're not making a point. Try again.
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>>2233130
What do you even mean?
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>>2233087
It is exactly the same in English; although different teachers get pissy at different points.
There are always going to be reasons why you might want to use the same word more than once, but generally you shouldn't, regardless of what it is you are writing: it just makes it more interesting to read.

>>2233121
>how is writing going for everyone in the new year?
Good, I'm currently writing a Himawari x Sakurako fanfiction.
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>>2233227
>you might want to use the same word more than once, but generally you shouldn't
I think this is entirely situational. Going for diversity in nouns and verbs makes perfect sense, but I don't think a writer should always go for variety for variety's sake. I believe it is entirely fine to use basic language when basic language is enough to get your point across, and leave the lurid description for when it's actually necessary and serves a point. For example, if you avoid using the word 'said', more specific words like 'exclaimed' and so forth lose their impact when they're actually necessary.
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If you have a scene between two people, you need some variance to establish who said wait, other than every single paragraph containing "<Name> said.", because that is beyond awful. Nobody wants to read the same name 50 times in 25 paragraphs.

>>2233078
>mature writers
>using "<Name> said" for every dialogue instance

I don't know what allegedly mature writers you read but clearly they're just aged hacks.

>>2233245
Words like said, exclaimed, whispered, shouted, yelled, mumbled, etc are all reserved for when the character respectively does each. If you want to avoid repeating "said" a thousand times, and I stole this from Kuugen of all the people, you can just complement the dialogue with an action from the same person, which so serves as an indicator of who is talking.
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>>2233247
>you can just complement the dialogue with an action from the same person

Exactly, though you need to be sparing with that as well. Often dialogue can function with a lot less action tags and 'saids' than people think. Just let the characters talk, they don't have to perform a dance routine while doing so.
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>>2233251
I disagree there. Normal people don't just remain perfectly still when talking, they do stuff. And if you combine dialogue with action, and I am using the term 'action' so loosely you could fit a blue whale inside, you actually save writing space for more important things as you don't need to separately establish who does what in-between dialogue paragraphs. I won't say Kuugen uses this to great effect but definitely to good effect. I rarely get confused by who said what, even in a conversation between 6+ people, due to this, even if there is not a single "said" or similarly grouped word.
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>>2233259
There are two extremes for it. Too much and too little. The dance routine I mentioned is exactly that, while talking heads syndrome is the other. I like how some authors can communicate what's going on during the conversation without needing a single action tag. It's something I wish we saw more of.
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>>2233267
I am not talking about extensive "does and does and does and does" stuff here but little things that hardly warrant their own paragraph but are nice to have anyway.

Like
>She hated that Kay made a lot of sense in that regard. "[What about sleeping arrangements then? You can hardly expect me to sleep on the floor.]"

Ignore the brackets, they're a thing unique to the particular fic and serve as an immersion indicator
Basically, japanese girls would still speak japanese in a fanfic but it's written in english. This fic comes with the premise that they are actually speaking whatever language their school is themed after when the dialogue is in brackets.
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>>2233319
I agree with that. I assumed we were discussing things more in the sense of concrete action. When you filter things through character POV, those kind of additions come naturally.
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>that feel when dialog is my weakest thing
>haven't really improved over the eleven years I've been writing

Maybe I just suck.
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>>2233324
I tried to help her come up with an alternative, but she already uses bold and cursive for speech manner and volume altercations and both fanfiction.net and AO3 format everything to the same font when you publish. That left underline, which looked horrible and super intrusive for long dialogue, and strikethrough, making things unreadable. Font size also didn't work.
So she used brackets, pretty much. It's not really intrusive since it's only at the start and end of dialogue and after a few lines you naturally pick up on it.
It is even a plot point of sorts that when the brackets are missing, they are talking in Japanese again, which is strictly speaking not allowed at their competition. This is the only fic where she's ever done something like that though.
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>>2233338
Might be just feeling it. Want help?
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>>2233121
>how is writing going for everyone in the new year?
I'm trying to write for a pairing I really like, but do not have the same passion for as I do some other pairings I've written for.

This has extended to me, for once, planning a fic out instead of having a barebones plan and winging it.

Overall it's not entirely going well. I've barely begun and I'm already lost.
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>>2233342
Sure. Here's something from my most recent chapter I've been working on. It's the most dialog-heavy thing I've done in a while so everything feels out of my depth.

“You’re not using your ointment. If you don’t use it, the skin will heal too tightly and you’ll lose flexibility.” He gave Sakura’s shoulder a painful twist of the skin that made her cringe away. “That hurt? Good. Because if you don’t use the ointment it will hurt more every time you stretch it far enough.”

“I can’t reach around my own back,” Sakura snapped.

The doctor frowned back at her. He turned to Ino, who had been watching, but was now caught staring. “You. You can do it for her. Apply it on her major scars twice a day.”

Sakura colored and pulled her shirt back on. “I can do it myself! I don’t need-”

“I’ll do it.” The surprise pronouncement from Ino caught Sakura off-guard. Even the doctor seemed a bit thrown that he wouldn’t have to bicker more about it. “What do I have to do?”

He reached into his pocket, pulled out a small white tube, and put it down on the little end table next to the sofa. “Here it is. It has to be rubbed into the scars to loosen the skin. This one already knows how to do it, so just make sure she follows the schedule and help her reach the scars on her back.”

Ino's eyes dropped. “I’ll make sure she does,” she promised. The doctor nodded and scowled once more at Sakura, who made a face at him until he had shuffled back out of the room.

As soon as the door closed Sakura rounded on her friend. “What was that all about?” Ino shrugged. She pulled the blankets back over her father, which the doctor had neglected to do.

“If you need help, you should ask for it,” she said, finally. Firmly. “I don’t mind.”
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>>2233359
It does feel a bit stiff and could be made a bit more natural. Mostly it's just that the dialogue seems a bit too formal instead of actual speech.
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>>2233389
Ugh. And now the years of being a social pariah come back and bite me.
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>>2233359
Anon has a point. Here's how I might write the first part of it just looking at the dialogue (though it could certainly be further improved) just trying to make it a bit more colloquial.


“You’re not using the ointment. If you don’t, the skin'll heal too tightly and you’ll lose flexibility.” He gave Sakura’s shoulder a painful twist of the skin that made her cringe away. “That hurt? If you don’t use this, it'll hurt every time you stretch the wrong way.”

“I can't reach my back,” Sakura snapped.

The doctor frowned back at her. "Well, you'll simply have to get help, then." He turned to Ino, who had been watching, but was now caught staring. “Apply it on her major scars twice a day. Got it?”
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>>2233395
Well, you don't have to write natural speech. You only have to give the illusion of natural speech. There are a few principles at play and once you notice them it's not that difficult at all.

http://www.writersdigest.com/editor-blogs/there-are-no-rules/keep-it-simple-keys-to-realistic-dialogue-part-i

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backchannel_(linguistics)
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>>2230169
>>2230171
>>2230176
Do you guys have anymore like this!? I absolutely FUCKING LOVED Practical Guide to Evil. Holy fucking shit is it good, I just wish it'll hopefully stay lesbian even though the OP did have one or two male companions in the past.

The only fear I have is that she has outright stated that she does NOT love the woman shes with right now. So it means that her true love has yet to be found and if that's the case it could very well be a man.
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>>2233398
It's so hard to write in different "voices" for different characters. I always tend to default to my main PoV character's voice for everyone unless I watch it.
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>>2233532
Sorry anon, that's all I got for now.we'll just have to hope more are found!

As for your fear, it's somewhat well-founded. BUT I think it's not guaranteed at all. For one, she's clearly warmed to her lover and while perhaps not in love they're certainly more than bedmates at this point I feel. Who knows if it'll develop further (as long as she doesn't die anyway). Second, the vibe of the story so far is kinda one that wants to acknowledge romance but doesn't want to dwell on it, and so in that way it's very possible that there WON'T be a 'true love' or anything of the sort coming.

Well, or maybe there will be. Just gotta cross our fingers. I'm just glad the story keeps shutting down any plausible dude romance partners pretty hard(Hakram finds humans icky, Swordsman get destroyed instead of turned or whatever, Apprentice pretty much asexual). Ratface is basically the only eligible guy around and there's pretty clearly nothing on either side of that.
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>>2233691
Well thanks for an awesome collection of reads, I only have one thing I can offer you, and you may have already read these but... these are ALL the Western Equivalents of Wuxia/Japanese Web Novel/Light Novel that revolve around the Main Characters being lesbians or bi with a full lesbian cast.

A large majority of these stories are reincarnation stories where the MC was male on Earth but was reincarnated as a woman but only EVER dates woman in this life. I don't know /u/'s policies on this but there it is anyway. They're all tagged too, so if that triggers you or anyone else, just keep going down the list

http://forum.royalroadl.com/archive/index.php?thread-91403.html
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>>2233721
Thanks for the list anon, I'll check it out.
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If you're fanfic on AO3 is getting a bunch of this but no one is leaving anything does that mean people are just taking a look and not liking it?
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>>2233950
*your
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>>2233950
Do you mean hits? It doesn't necessarily mean no one is liking it, some people just like to read then move on. I guess typically you might expect at least some kudos.

If you're worried it's bad you could just link it here
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Anyone ever feel sad or bittersweet about their stories? I haven't written in a long time and I recently got a PM asking me about one of my fics. I had assumed people stopped caring long ago. Even now, I'm sure it's only the person who PMed me who still cares.

Anyways it made me remember what it was like writing fanfics, getting feedback, the excitement of it all. Now it seems so distant, like it happened to a me that no longer exists. When I think of continuing that story or writing more, I can't imagine doing so, since the characters are distant from me now and I'm no longer part of the fandom, so I feel sad about that, but it's also bittersweet.

Anyone else feel like this?
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>>2227832
>>2227834
you are now aware that some human societies in real life have practiced polyamory. AFAIK, all are gone, though Tibet still allows limited plural marriage in some circumstances.
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>>2234585
>AFAIK, all are gone

If you don't even bother to look up this shit, don't fucking bother posting. Fuck off with this topic already. Some like it, some don't. What a fucking surprise. Fuck off.
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>>2234541
I felt that way about a year ago - I hadn't written in 2 years before that (minus a oneshot I believe) and felt disconnected from my writing, my fandoms, and the joy that writing fanfics gave. I didn't think I'd ever get back into it, and literally couldn't write. I was blank.

What helped - if you're looking for help, that is - was finding something entirely new to write about. I found an entirely different fandom out of nowhere that sparked my interest again, and I sat down and wrote. it took longer - months this time - but when it was done I felt so wonderful posting it and since then I've had a revival. I posted more in 2016 (and more than I've ever been proud of) than my last "big" year, before that period of nothingness.

tl;dr
This happens to many of us. You can either accept it and learn that fanfiction is a thing of your past, or get into a fandom or style entirely different from what you're used to - something you're passionate about - and go from there. Later, when you're back into the swing of things, you can maybe try and return to your old stuff and finish them.
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When I look at how people say they take weeks and months to write a fic, I don't understand how some people can grind out big chapters like some of our regular providers
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>>2234636
Think Steven King. Some writers are just unfathomable machines.
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>>2234636
If it's just a hobby that you do for fun, it's really not that odd to see people spending wildly varying amounts of time on their writing. On top of that, some authors publish everything they write, while others sit on piles of unpublished work. Some do far more editing than others. Some are insecure little shits like me with anxiety issues and take ages to finish things.
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>>2234636
It's all relative, nee-san. As someone who writes almost exclusively oneshots, the thing that always took longest was transcribing my written work (I have to write in notebooks first) to the computer. My most recent (good) work took a little over a month to write, but I didn't write every day.

For some people it comes down to how much time they have to write. For others, it's the way things are written, and how long it takes to be happy with a sentence.

And then there are those James Peterson types who seem to fucking get an average of 10000 words and update week after week after week, and I'll never understand it. I envy it, to some extent, but understanding it is beyond me.
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>>2234643
I'm just imagining that you died and some straight-laced policeman is browsing a notebook filled with yuri fiction and bemoaning the youth of today. Do you burn them when you're done?
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>>2234650
>I'm just imagining that you died and some straight-laced policeman is browsing a notebook filled with yuri fiction and bemoaning the youth of today.
You've caught me! Rats! If I died and my work is still being put out, then that policeman may have a bit of /u/ in him, even if he can't understand why.

>Do you burn them when you're done?
Never. I just don't let other people look at them. I learn best when I write with a pen and notebook, I remember things better when I write them down, and I put out better fics when I write them. It's not that I can't type, but I've always been the type to write things down first. It feels more natural - flows right from my mind to the page, and back (if I'm taking notes or something).

In fact, I've recently found my notebooks from when I was in second grade, and first began writing fiction (believe it or not). I wrote fanfiction before I even knew what fanfiction was. One was a Pokemon/Zoids crossover, and one was a beyblades self-insert fic
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>>2234650
Better not start thinking about relatives going through your collections, to see what's worth selling off, once you kick it.
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>>2234639
When I think of Steven King of the /u/ fanfic community, someone peculiar comes to mind. I remember she put out like 250k W out in one month.
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>>2234661
I refuse to believe you can write that much while keeping to content good. Even King only writes a bit over a novel a year and people complain about the quality.
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>>2234663
I am trying to remember which chapters those were but I don't really recall the quality suffering
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>>2234650
d/a, but I've had friends promise to go through my stuff if I die unexpectedly.
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>>2234636
It comes with practice and experience.

I've been doing this for about 15 years and I can crank out roughly a novel, editing and all, in 7-8 months. That's a full time job though.
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>>2234585
Men keeping harems of women is perfectly natural but it isn't "polyamory," the women aren't in love with each other.
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>>2235093
That's just your personal definition, which isn't how the word is normally used.
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whats with people putting f/f tags on ao3 if the fic has 0 yuri parings in the first place i swear most of the fics with f/f on ao3 are like that
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>>2235230
maybe they intend to include the f/f later in the story, dunno
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>>2235230

Some morons count the side pairings.
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>>2235093

"Polyamory is typically defined as the practice of, or desire for, intimate relationships where individuals may have more than one partner, with the knowledge and consent of all partners."

Intimate ≠ Romantic
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>>2234639
>>2234661
>Steven
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>>2233973
Well alright, I'm having an okay day.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/9127912
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>>2235325
too much steven universe in the mind of these poor people
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>>2234657
Maybe I'll try that myself. When I sit at the computer, I just get distracted and never get anything accomplished. Even now, I have the word document open and only two pages done after having started writing weeks ago.
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>>2235362
Try it, nee-san. A change in medium can certainly help with a change in writing, in style, in distractedness, etc.

Good luck.
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>>2235327
>VtMB
Great; I love Toreador. There isn't enough VtM stuff.
Anyway it was entertaining; last chapter was definitely the best. The Fledgling's vicariousness was my favorite element of the whole thing.
I'd showcase Heather's addiction/mental-processes a bit more, but that's obviously up to you. Also Venus' post-Dominate so it feels more like part of the story, rather than just what drove the story in a certain direction (I liked the final conflict about it).
Finally there is a feeling of slight lack of word variation, but just looking at the numbers it seems fine. It's because you used the same word in close proximity a few times (to describe something in one paragraph and the next), and so it gives the sensation of lack of variety. Just spread them a bit across chapters and it's fine.
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>>2235503
I was really only concerned with getting people off, so I found it hard to care what happened post-Dominate, and I couldn't bring myself to have Venus be really mad, even though by all rights she should be. The word variation is just embarrassing on my part.
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>>2235555
Actually, I meant during being Dominated; my mistake for wording it in such a confusing way.
Non-con can be pretty hot, but I like knowing the sub's thoughts during it. So I would have liked a bit more -from- her rather than -about- her during those scenes.
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>>2235362
Handwriting is great because it makes it harder to just nuke everything and forces you to keep going. I use it as a way to outline things and draft scenes, especially when I'm otherwise feeling stuck.
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>>2235362
>>2235364
>>2235749
>writing at all

Sorry, this is just pleb-tier. I only compose my stories orally and recite them in cafés. Why do you think literature has only gone downhill since Homer?
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>>2235821
Do you have your imouto strum the lute while you do that?
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>>2235824
>tfw no imouto troubadour to help spread your yuri fanfiction about the gods

Now no one will know about my Artemis x Athena myths
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>>2235893
It better not involve Zeus turning into a swan and raping everyone again.
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>>2235893
>ArtemisxAthena
Awful. Everyone knows AphroditexAthena I'd the best Athena romance.
Now if only HeraxHestia would catch on.
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mfw there are no fics about cute engineers, no face
it's always the same, the girls are either baristas, doctors even lawyers, but never an engineer
why even bread?
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>>2236222
>HeraXHestia
Hera a shit and a het.

Real best is Aphrodite/Artemis - what better "opposites attract" pairing is there than the goddess of love and the goddess of virginity? Totally tsun, lots of sexual tension, etc.
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>>2236235
Shit you just inspired me to write a computer science fic.
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>>2236222
Surely cool and sexy Athena-oneesama aggressively seducing her tomboyish and brash but inexperienced little sister is better than shipping her with some slutty party girl?

I like to think Sappho and the girls had heated debates on this topic.
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>>2236258
>Sappho was the first /u/ boat
>we're simply continuing a tradition that goes back to Ancient Greece
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>>2236235
People write what they know
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>>2236258
>Sappho

You know I learned recently that the idea of Sappho being gay was invented extremely recently. For like 2000 years before that no-one thought her poetry had anything to do with lesbian sex. I think we need to find a different gay poet to talk about.
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>>2236272
Da Vinci?
>>2236269
Obviously we need to pitch in and buy an island to live together.
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>>2236249
I dunno, the part where Aphrodite manipulated Hippolytos's step-mom into accusing him of rape so his dad would kill him just because Artemis liked him as a devotee was a little too yandere for me.
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>>2236270
so, 80% of the writers are baristas?
that would explain all those coffee shop fics
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>>2236280
I get the feeling most people actually working as Baristas wouldn't want to set their fics in their own working environment.
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>>2236235
Have you seen what engineer's do? It's very dry.
>>2236249
See this is why you spartan tier. You can't think purely without action.
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>>2236288
i'm an Engineer, nee san
it's not dry at all
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>>2236272
That sounds highly unlikely. This article cites at least two references to works at least a thousand years old that recognize Sappho's attraction to women (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/03/16/girl-interrupted). The ancient portrayals of her as a heterosexual nymphomaniac sound more like male anxiety over female homosexuality (c.f. het doujinshi of lesbian characters) than authentic historical detail.

>>2236280
80% of fanfic writers spend lots of time in coffee shops dreaming of the baristas.
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>>2236300
Cool story sis, how's your prose?
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>>2236300
So it's wet?
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I'm trying to write a fic where a girl blackmails her het friend into having sex with her over an unpaid debt. The problem is, I'm trying to frame the het girl's boyfriend as being a useless money-sucking degenerate, but there's an awkward transition between that and then the protagonist hating the straight girl for falling in love with this guy and then leading to lesbian sex from there. Should I bother throwing in the bit about her boyfriend as a way to show that the protagonist is pissed, or just go straight to the "Can't pay me? Time for sex!" part?
The protagonist is quite a jealous girl, so I can go another way and frame it more like a "Let's see what he sees in you, with sex!" kind of thing.
But I think both ways sound stupid. I started with an idea and I feel like I painted myself into a corner. I don't feel like writing just fluff today, I want to have some backstory, but it's coming out wrong so far.
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>>2236304
The bf bit sounds dumb. The whole thing sounds pretty dumb. Work on the concept some more
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>>2236304
What mean things did the popular kids do to you during middle school?
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>>2236304
That is something for the "terrible idea, I put it out there, time to forget" trashbin
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>>2236304
Your idea is nonsense. It might work as a farce, but otherwise I have no idea what you're going for here.
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>>2236300
and what do engineers do?
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>>2236235
engineering is really hard to bs your way through. doctors and lawyers you can get away with yanking tropes off tv and movies.

and yeah, a lot of ff authors either frequent coffee shops or have been a barista/known one at some point.

if cyberpunk makes a comeback we might see a rise in comp/engineering characters.
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>>2236336
Can confirm. I work as a software developer and even I don't feel comfortable writing about software development in a fic.

Plus, it's just not very sexy, and the software dev world is very insular. Can you imagine a fic where one of the characters is working at a small startup trying to get Series A funding? They'd have no time for a social life, let alone dating.
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>>2236339
>Plus, it's just not very sexy, and the software dev world is very insular. Can you imagine a fic where one of the characters is working at a small startup trying to get Series A funding? They'd have no time for a social life, let alone dating.
Just make it like New Game with a bit more neurosis, tough project managers, and order-in food
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>>2236307
>>2236308
>>2236314
>>2236317
Thanks neechans, I won't bother working on it further. To be honest, I usually write /d/ stuff so I was a bit out of my comfort zone trying to write /u/ stuff anyway.
To add insult to injury, it was an SAO fic.
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>>2236235
>>2236336
>>2236339
>>2236348
A story about warriors doesn't have to be about them training or fighting all the time. A story about a fast food worker doesn't have to be about her flipping burgers or working the fryers all the damn time.

So a story about an engineer or programmer certainly doesnt have to have entire paragraphs of your character figuring out how to solve real work problems.

The point of character interactions and events are there to develop your characters and further the advancement of the plot. Think less about your character trying to come up with lines of codes, and focus more on the consequences her actions or the effects of the work environment has on her.

You're not there to drop 500k words on office cliques, performance reviews, the impact of outsourcing or mergers & acquisitions, you're there to write about two people falling in love.
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>>2236356
Writing kinky stuff is fine, and you can certainly attempt to do /u/ stuff with kinks. Lord knows how often I wish there was stuff about a Succubus going after a milf or something. It's just everything about that premise was telling that it was going to be bad.
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>>2236348
>delivery girls.

>MC gets hired to code monkey out of collage. Work way up to contributing on projects decently enough to finally get breathing room so long as things get done.
>Falls head over heels for the lunch delivery girl.
>weeks go by as they grow together once a day everyday for the time it takes to sort out the bags. Helping take it out of her car. Hands start brushing. Using first names, blushes.
>Accidently uses her name for a function or something. Gets away with it.
>DG starts putting up with weekends and holidays bullshit just to make the regular run.
>Finally take the plunge and kiss in a hallway away from everyone.
>Older cake Sys admin shoves them into a sever routing closet full of wires. Hear her walking away with an amused lilt in her voice.

>"Just don't touch the CATs kids or I'm taking both your pussys."
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>>2236369
Nee-san, you have to write this. It's perfect.
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>>2236369
But would the cake admin be happy or slightly jealous? After all she is a cake and she probably would look at them longingly wishing for something similar.
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>>2236369
You're a genius!!

But also lol at using the DG's name for a function.

def cutieDeliveryGirl(x, y):
#do stuff
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>>2236363
woah dude, no one said they were actually writing these fics. just offering explanations why engineers dont show up often.

having basic knowledge of an occupation will allow a writer to add small details that will flesh out even a short fic.

and if you go and fuck up basic information about a field you're not knowledgeable about it's just going to be abrasive for anyone that IS part of the field. not everyone wants to spend time researching something they don't understand to crap out 10k words for their romance fic.

sure, a couple civil engineers bonding over being giant fucking nerds and doing engineer math shit is adorable but it's not necessarily accessible or easy to write for someone who is very far removed from those kinds of jobs. doctors, lawyers and baristas also all have the trait of bringing you into contact with strangers regularly. engineers meet each other at... conferences? i don't know! i'm not an engineer.

how many hot lab partners have you ever had where you were like oooohhh lets flirt over titrations~

that said i've been outlining a story where one of the girls is a programmer. in a space horror scenario.
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>>2236390
>how many hot lab partners have you ever had

How many times have you personally waged wars over foreign lands and bested political rivals in pseudo Ancient Rome? Having insider knowledge is great, but you don't need a degree in a field to crank out a believable setting.

No wonder fanfics feel stagnant in Current Year, when fandoms have to rely on stiffs like you to pen their next adventure.
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>>2236423
You're setting a great example for the other side of the spectrum of why we don't have anything.
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>>2236372
Just poked in, all I can do is promise to add it to the list of things. Can't promise quality though.

>>2236374
Bit of both I'd imagine. Nothing more heartwarming than seeing two inexperienced girls in fluffy choke ups figuring things out. Waiting right there in the wings encouraging them but ready to "console" someone if things don't work. Or bed them. And or push things forward if they are slowing down. Or try to bed both of them.

>>2236380

if (success = 1)
{#do cutieGirlFriend}
else
{# cutieDeliveryGirl }

//That's probably completely wrong but humor me.
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>>2236423
>How many times have you personally waged wars over foreign lands and bested political rivals in pseudo Ancient Rome?

both of these things are inherently more interesting to most people than titrations, and much easier to come up with engaging bullshit for. correct bullshit? probably not. but there's a reason there's dozens of rome movies and a handful of interesting movies about STEM shit that isn't scifi. conjuring up problems on a battlefield is a lot more fun than "oh we fucked up the temperature in this cold room and now we have to replate our cultures".

it's hard to make STEM interesting without pulling in shit like space, spies or corporate espionage. especially if you have no knowledge of how anything in the field works. i'm not saying it can't be done, i'm saying it's not something that inspires people to write, especially people that are doing this for fun.

nice job ignoring the second half of the sentence. and the rest of the post.

are you also one of those knobs that gets ornery when someone without a degree then fucks up something in a STEM setting? i'll be sure to make my next fic a barista AU with vampires just for you.
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>>2236435
Declare your variables, asshole.
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>>2236304
Don't listen to the rest of them anon, this is the kind of fucked up scenario I wish more people would write.
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>>2236452
I don't actually code for a living, it would take a while to learn properly.

Which makes me sad because the opportunity for the SA to bother MC would suffer for it.

>DG should be called more. _SA

>Unnecessary bloat. Don't you have a forwarded port to manage or something? _MC

>I'll come manage your ports if you want. _SA

>I have things to do. _MC

>I agree get back to working on DG soon or I'm getting in the trench myself. _SA

>That won't be necessary. _MC

>Nonsense! Let me see what's got you stumped. _SA

>My doors jammed. Could you help me open this? _SA.

>I have coffee. _SA.

>Please. _SA.

>I know you're reading these. _SA.
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>>2236435
>Bit of both I'd imagine.
SA should find a nice cafe owner to settle with, one who is also a cake or perhaps a cougar
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>>2236516
Main story: entry level coder gets with delivery girl

Side story: Sysadmin cake gets with the barista across the street
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>>2236301
(cont.) Also, Ovid mentions Sappho having had relationships with women, even though he's part of the het tradition. The only people who refused to see the lesbianism were Victorian scholars, who came up with all sorts of silly justifications.
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>>2236499
Declaring variables is chap 1 stuff.
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>>2236348
Didn't he write New Game after working in the game industry?
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>>2236770
Sounds like a Japanese version of Dilbert.
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>>2236731
>>2236499
That no one is going to write this burns me
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>>2236854
I volunteer to write it, if the anon who came up with the original idea is okay with it.
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>>2236731
But that just becomes a story of two couples and less interesting. Or happens near the end and feels like a contrived happy ending shoehorned in.

Unless the barista had a crush on MC the whole time like SA and they end up in a bar somewhere in the middle and realize they have a lot in common while MC and DG have their first intimate moment in private. BA treats SA like she wanted to do herself to MC turning the pushy woman to be a little moe.


>>2236768
It's been a while okay.

>>2236854
Never say never, honestly have a list of thirty ideas as it is though. Wish I had enough time for every one that comes up.

>>2236863
If you think you can make it work go for it. Just give it a proper name that's not like

>Chinese and keyboard.
>U#
>Takeout my heart.
>If love, do everything_together.
>Emerging market demand, for you
>Started up and soaring.
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>>2237015
>Emerging market demand, for you
Hah. This sounds like some sort of business presentation line.

For title I was thinking of something dorky, like Djikstra's Algorithm (which could be too much of a CS joke - it's an algorithm for finding the shortest path between two nodes, so it's like the distance between our two leads' hearts) or Unvisited Vertex or Code Monkeys.
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>>2237015
>Emerging market demand, for you
I almost like this one unironically
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>>2237015
>But that just becomes a story of two couples and less interesting. Or happens near the end and feels like a contrived happy ending shoehorned in.
There's a way to avoid it and I'd much prefer Sa's own cake not being a barista. Have it be an extraneous story that happens after DG and the MC get together. Hints could be shown near the end that involve Sa reeling back her enthusiasm because MCDG finally getting together and other distractions. One just so happens to be say a cute baker or something that that she references indirectly via coming in late one day or something with a donut. Ofc that'd be like the only mention since SA goes off to do her own work then while Mc daydreams about DG and what they could do.
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Can anyone recommend some good fics about girls in school and focussing on their school life together? Especially if there's a popular girl/outcast dynamic.
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>>2237030
Find a way to use the definition for the summary and then maybe have MC's name start with D. It could work.

I don't think I'm ever gonna escape that... Not intentional I swear.

>>2237031
Went for as corny as possible. It might have a place somewhere...

>>2237035
Considering the whole discussions been getting away from baristas, sure. Just examples for what do with a given. But that in and of itself could deserve it's own story.

>SA goes after a pastry chef.
>Stuff happens.
>SA gets lightly bullied by MC for having home lunch covered in hearts and fancy touches after getting pushed around a little by SA earlier.

>Two cakes in a bakery.
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>>2237140
>>Two cakes in a bakery.
Perfecto, though yes something like that to kind of have SA lessen her teasing at the end of the programmer story
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How much angst is too much angst? What are some lines you shouldn't cross?
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>>2237314
I think self-harm and suicide are too much and usually don't match the characters used in the stories.
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>>2237315
What about harming others? That aren't a mortal enemy, of course.
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>>2237314
When in doubt, less is better.
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fandoms that need more yuri? for me it is starcraft
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>>2237356
I kind of wish LOTR had more opportunities for yuri since it's so popular, but considering the all-male cast I guess it can't be helped.
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>>2237314
>What are some lines you shouldn't cross?

none.

but some things are harder to write than others.
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>>2237314
Rape. It's a awful trope/background.
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>>2237457
Rape is one of those things that /seems/ like it should be an incredible source of angst but that practically no-one can write well. Even the few times I have seen it done well it's always been the "ends up enjoying it" kind of rape.
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>>2236327
Go to damaged spaceships and fight alien-zombies.
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>>2220921
It's like a trollfic but good.
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>>2236304
> I'm trying to frame the het girl's boyfriend as being a useless money-sucking degenerate,

Don't. It never works when stories try to bash the BF. Just don't focus on him. Make him an unimportant side character who she doesn't really love.
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>when adding gary stu OCs and self inserts is not enough, genderbend the female characters into males, bonus for making it harem style, in which all girls chase after the genderbend character (who will suddenly behave exactly like a gary stu self insert)
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>>2237702
Hmm. But if I do that, I'm afraid that might make the het girl seem shallow. The story hinges on the fact that she gave her boyfriend all of her money, and now has nothing to give her friend, who demands sex for repayment. And if she didn't really care about her boyfriend, then it wouldn't make sense that she gave him all of her money.
I don't think your idea is a bad one, I just think that my story would require way too much alteration to work. I haven't abandoned it completely, but it's definitely on the back burner for a bit.
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Does anyone else ever find themselves getting caught up in technicalities that would matter to no one else?
Ex:
>writing a sci-fi story where the solar system is colonized like Cowboy Bebop that takes place on Mars
>theorize that Mars was first colonized some 100+ years ago when devising a calendar for the culture there
>realize that Mars has different lengths for days and years than Earth so begin to try calculating Earth:Mars day ratios to get an accurate calendar
>end up going nowhere
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>>2237905
i.e., the worldbuilding trap, yeah. Don't do it.

>Worldbuilding is dull. Worldbuilding literalises the urge to invent. Worldbuilding gives an unneccessary permission for acts of writing (indeed, for acts of reading). Worldbuilding numbs the reader's ability to fulfil their part of the bargain, because it believes that it has to do everything around here if anything is going to get done.

-M. John Harrison
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>>2237905
This is why in sci fi you see "sol standard time" or other universal time increments. Like the star dates in Star Trek. You can just hand wave it and make it so the reader can safely assume the locals at wherever they are do the local calculation themselves away from the reader.
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>>2237910
Well, dismissing it entirely is dumb as well. The things the story actually needs can be a little bit more descriptive. Everything else does not matter and need not be explained.
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>>2237924
I agree. No worldbuilding at all ruins it
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>>2237924
Of course, there's a line somewhere between describing nothing and creating fictional currency exchange rates. I think the best way to learn moderation is just to read the great fantasy and science fiction authors. Lord Dunsany, E. R. Eddison, R. A. Lafferty, etc.
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>>2237712
Please refer to
>that aren't ones that automatically disqualify something from being yuri

When bitching about fanfic shit you hate.

That said. I hate first person fics. Nobody has ever done one that I didn't automatically hate.
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>>2238107
I wonder why so many people dislike the first person in fanfiction. Is it because first person makes the story mainly about one character whereas people are usually reading fanfiction for a pairing?
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>>2237905
Do the colonists mutate into lesbians?
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>>2238123
For me it's more that I've never seen anyone write it in a manner that didn't kill my immersion in the story.
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>tfw no Azula/Ty Lee dubcon fic

I need this so badly. Too bad most authors are obsessed with redeeming Azula.
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>>2238180
use the tagging system on Ao3. There are a few fics.

Granted most are more /d/ than /u/ but there are some.
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>>2238107
Forget first person fics, second person fics are completely unreadable and there are still people who, for whatever deranged reason, think it's a good idea.
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>>2238219
I think i've only seen second person fics for those self-insert ones that have you fuck a character.
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>>2237726
Find another reason for the girl to be poor. Maybe she's just bad with money, and absolutely had to have a new phone/car/whatever. Don't create a character with the sole purpose of the audience not liking him, unless he's there to create drama.
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>>2238231
Could use the boyfriend to drive the need to borrow itself.

>Borrows boyfriends car.
>Accidentally smashes the rear end into a pole.
>BF's insurance would go up, can't tell him or anyone.
>Don't earn much.
>Borrow money from trusted long time friend to get it repaired same day no questions by a shop.
>Owes the friend almost a year's worth of spending money.

From there it would be like a game of ensuring the friend didn't bill the boyfriend.

To be extra malicious have the predatory girl working at the shop itself.

Lot of options for anon.
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>>2238107
I wanted to bitch about that and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>2238180
what is the difference of dubcon and rape anyway? Seems the same for me
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>>2238244
First is unsaid, assumed no. possibly yes though.

Second is said no. meant no. didn't matter happens anyway.
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>>2238244
rape is "I don't want this, stop." full stop.

dubcon is more along the lines of that shit you get in every hentai where the girl is saying they don't want it but really do.
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Have you ever felt compelled to write something that you know is incredibly fucked up?
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>>2238493
How fucked up are we talking about here?
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>>2238498
I don't even want to say. I guess I'm just wondering if this kind of thing ever ends well.
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>>2238506
I wrote a fic about the demon lord side of the things without whitewashing it. With all the edge that it imply. I regret nothing.
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>>2238493
That just makes me want to write it harder.
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>>2238123
Usually just because they're shit.
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>>2238221
I remember reading a K-On Mitsu fic that was second person ages ago and it actually wasn't bad. I think it was mostly angst though and I was a dumb teen at the time so my opinion has probably changed by now.
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>>2238939
I tried reading that Tomb Raider story that came out shortly after the first reboot game and it was decent 2nd person...too bad I dont remmeber what the fucking name ofr it was.

>>2238244
If you see someone use the term "con", you know it's going to be a bad story written by some teen anyway.
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What the hell does "alpha/beta/omega dynamics" mean? Could someone explain to me what this is and why it pops up everywhere?
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>>2239246
>>2238939
I don't hate 2nd person, although I can totally understand why others don't like them.

It's not even a self-insertion thing (I try to not self-insert in any media) - I tend to read them like first person fics, and in some sense they almost feel more "personal" than some of those.

I really enjoy quest threads, so maybe I'm just really used to it.
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>>2239248
First chapter gives you the basics.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/403644/chapters/665489

As to why:
1. Interesting social aspect to explore if done properly.
2. Easy excuse to do porn without plot.
3. furrys invented it. Expect it to last longer than the heat death of the universe.
4. The rules are a guideline that can be changed to whatever the writer wants thus can be shoe horned into any shape you want. Which loops back to 1-3.

Like any other "twist" or "detail" if done well it can lead to a different story not otherwise possible. Unfortunately like all things fanfiction the vast majority of everything is not done well.
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>>2239253
Second person isn't even bad if used in the proper contexts, e.g., CYOA stories like you mentioned.

The thing I can't stand is people writing in the third person and conjugating everything into the present tense.
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>>2239248
Alphas fuck (with penises, no such thing as an alpha without a dick), omegas get fucked, and occasionally you get a story with betas, who do neither.

Don't ask me why it pops up, I'm as confused by it as I am by soulmate AUs. In fact, can someone explain those to me?
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>>2239329
betas do do both, they're just regular people more or less. Don't have any of the biological fuckery going on with their heads or junk.
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>>2239325
>The thing I can't stand is people writing in the third person and conjugating everything into the present tense.

i have this problem. i don't know why it started, probably from reading too much other fanfic. i rarely notice if fics are in past or present at this point, though i think the latter works in some one-shots and porn. it's starting to pop up more in actual books too.
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>>2238856
What a coincidence, I just happened to be re-reading an excellent first-person fic. Enjoy.

https://m.fanfiction.net/s/10079097/1/Min-S%F8ster-Bursdagskake
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>>2238856
I am writing a fanfiction that has first person narration, mostly because if it was in third person it would lose a lot of tension and I just like first person. The thing that interests me is that the audience is forced to understand everything from one perspective and also the fact that it is inherently unreliable, regardless of who is writing it.
It is harder to write in than third person. The story also needs to work in first person, because not all stories can work in first person. The protagonist has to be the right kind of protagonist, which is the main problem I am having. Although this doesn't mean you shouldn't write it but it will make it harder.

This is my fanfiction just in case anyone: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12253308/1/Sakurako-Lost-and-Regained
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>>2239329
Actually, if you go back to the origin of the femslash omegaverse, the female alpha in it didn't have a dick and fisted her partners to great success. There's a handful of other stories like that and they're often the better ones. However when the genre exploded into the anime scene it of course melded with futa. There's a lot you can play with in the omegaverse and alphas having penises or not is one of those things.
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>>2239329
sounds like the people who came up with this ABO shit just skimmed over a wikipedia article on wolves and don't know that the alpha/beta shit does NOT apply to wild wolves, it is a croak of shit.
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>>2239857
It's mostly an excuse for power dynamics, mpreg and knotting.
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>>2239866

Well it did start in slash fandom.
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>>2240568
sasuga fujoshi
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any good warcraft yuri fics
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>>2239448
>That fucking author's note

I'll pass.
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>>2239448
Ah, cake fic. I was just reminiscing about this recently.
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>tagged "slow burn"
>100k words of zero romantic interaction between the characters followed by them falling into a relationship and pledging eternal love
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>>2241967
which fic?
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>>2239329
>that feel when I have a biting/marking fetish and an impregnation fetish

I feel myself slipping, /u/. I don't like it.

It seems like the only fandom with a lot of A/B/O stuff is The 100 fandom. Am I wrong?
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>>2242080
It pops up occasionally in other fandoms, but for some reason there's an overwhelming amount of it in The 100.
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So earlier there were some post of Lesbian Web Novels, does anyone have any more recommendations?
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>>2242094
I suppose it's because Grounders are so earthy or something.

I honestly don't mind it horribly, but I wish there were more stories where Clarke is either the top or sticks closer with her hard as nails tv personality. 100 writers completely gut her and focus on Lexa 99% of the time.
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>>2239395
Why don't you just... stop doing it? How can you not notice the difference? Read all 15 or however many Wheel of Time books or something and get your mind back in the habit of processing proper writing (not that wheel of time isn't shit but at least it has an editor).
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