Flip Flappers

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CCPP

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MMPP

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YYCCPP

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YYCC

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YYPP?

>>2215762
YYYY

>>2215834
How could she do that?
I mean given how time is screwed up in this show PPPP could be a thing but YYYY?
Odd there is no art for YYNN yet.

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>>2215877
I meant Yuyu.

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>>2215535
>four of the last five threads have CocoYaya in the OP

I guess I need to remind OP that she fucking lost, deserved to lose, and has only herself to blame.

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She betrayed her best friend and almost got herself and Cocona killed and Papika trapped in PI for what? Petty jealousy and an attempt to maintain an abusive relationship with a cult that by her own admission treats her like trash.

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She was willing to risk Cocona's injury or death just so she could take out her frustrations on someone who was only interested in saving Cocona.

She was willing to cut open Cocona's leg, to symbolically rape her best friend, and only stopped short of that unforgivable act at the very last second.

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In episode 9, when CocoPapi disarmed the trap together, Yayaka realised that she lost. You can see it on her face. That's why she supports them now, although Salt had to beg her to do it before she was willing to shift herself on their behalf.

Yayaka's a great character, but she screwed up her first love almost as much as it is possible to screw up. She has a long way to go before redeeming herself for those screwups and that process only began moments before the FF base invasion when she tried to tell Cocona that she was planted. Even that noble act she managed to screw up, leaving Cocona vulnerable to mental trauma from the twins.

Befriending Nyunyu and giving Papika a pep talk are the only things she has not fucked up all season. She only looks cool at the end of ep11 because her character arc came sooner, so her recovery from her low point coincided with Cocona and Papika's fall to the nadir of their respective arcs.

tl:dr Yayaka a shit.

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>>2215904
Not a chance.

If Papika is able to win Cocona back and she gets a legit yuri end, where will she ranks amongst yuri characters?

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Do amorphous children grow up or Yayaka is stuck with loli girlfriend?

>>2216052
source?

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>>2216224
/a/
Just like this one by "futanon"

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>>2216052
I cant find anything like it on Pixiv so I think /a/ found it on Twitter. But I don't know the artist handle.

>>2216261

Does futanon have a pixiv or something?

>>2216156
Will we ever get an explanation for the nail clippers?

>>2215904
The more I am looking at the character design the more this show feels like BRS but with dream worlds and lesbians.

>>2216289
Salt plays the guitar, they belong to him.

>>2216291
Are you saying that Salt is a lesbian?

>>2216303
Playing the guitar requires short nails. Think about how your play that instrument for a second.

>>2216156
Yeah, that cathode ray tube on his desk. Wtf.

>>2216275
Tumblr and twitter
https://twitter.com/bisexualrobot

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>>2216322
Thanks onee-san

>>2216261
This is probably how it ends, except without nudity (probably).

>>2216290
>BRS
From episode 3, the fanservice and costume designs gives me impression that Studio Pablo's saying, "We want the Prisma Ilya crowd." Nyunyu's costume gives the impression that the new studio in charge is saying, "Fuck it. We give up."

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>>2216553
>Studio Pablo's saying ...
>that the new studio in charge

I don't think you have any idea how these things work, who does what and who's in charge.

>>2216553
3hz is the main studio producing this. More to the point Oshiyama is the director in control of everything. Pablo were just background artists.

>>2216560
I probably don't, but Pablo was one of the primary reasons the show looked so gorgeous, not to mention that the head writer had left after Episode 7.

So yeah. 3hz just lost it.

>>2216576
You should stop posting about it then, because nothing you write is true or even makes even the slightest bit of sense.

>>2216579
http://blog.honeyfeed.fm/flip-flappers-scriptwriter-leaves-after-6-episodes/

>>2216582
Seriously stop spreading misinformation. The storyboard was always drawn by Oshiyama. The scriptwriter does not write the story or plot, or does the character designs ike you seem to think: >>2216553.
Studio Pablo does not do the animation which actually makes this show look as good. They do a bunch of painted backgrounds for some throwaway scenes (see: http://imgur.com/a/NvGqV#QPcKh8v), but not every background (not even close). And while these are looking good, Oshiyama, the director, decided that there is no place for them in any of the episdes left. Btw. Pablo worked on episode 9.

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>>2216576
Infinite do some good work as well.

>>2216591
>Misinformation
Did you even check the source?
http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/94973

Since episode 10, the show's a shadow of its former self.

>>2216594
Good, but doesn't hold a candle to any episodes in PI.

>>2216598
Everything you posted here is misinformation. The only thing true is that Yuniko was the scriptwriter for episode 1,2 and 4, 5, 6. She did not leave at all because the show was going nowhere, like your cancerous blog claims under "reactions on the web". She was never meant to do more. The scriptwriting was very likely done in parallel anyway. While Yuniko was writing for the first half, Oshiyama and whoever helped him was working on the latter half.

>>2216612
Actually 1-3 and 5 and 6 iirc.

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>Which reminds me, Cocona doesn't wear a bra...

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>Papikana's are bigger (even though I'm a mom)
>Mimi... it tickles...

After all the shit she went through YYK does deserve at least some CCN. I don't think PPK will be adverse to sharing.

After 3 days, would /u/ go to Yayaka and Nyunyu's wedding?

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>>2216224
Found the source

爽 on pixiv soooo_u on twitter

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>>2216911
This person thinks of Yayaka as a player.

>force-pairing best girl with loli character who appeared at literally the last minute.
I'm ashamed to be one of /u/ right now

>>2216918
We have two more episodes you know.
And Nyu has to be their for SOME reason.

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>>2216918
You should go to /a/ then.

They're doing it too.

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>>2216914

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>>2216936

>>2216911
>>2216914
Well the the seiyuu called her an "ikemen". I like to think that she's smooth like Eila or Yaya from Strawberry Panic with others but gets embarrassed around that one special girl.

>>2216554
Are Papika and Yayaka still love rivals in this timeline?

>>2217184
The picture pretty much implies that Papika isn't really there anymore. It fits with the ending theory that Papika will sacrifice herself in some way to fix Cocona's life. Now she'll have a loving father and a better shot at life with Yayaka by her side.

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>>2217209
Get off the internet Yayaka, I'm cutting it down.

>>2217209
I would hate that ending so much.

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>>2217209
Who could be behind this post?

>>2217209
I rather Cocona be straight and have a kid then name that kid Papika.

>>2217230
Actually, the Yayakafag inside me wants the ending where Papika gets reborn as a child between Cocona and Yayaka.

>>2217254
The Nyunyu inside me wants to date your Yayaka~

http://au.ign.com/wikis/best-of-2016-awards/Best_Anime_Series

You can vote for flip flappers here.

>>2217322
>http://au.ign.com/wikis/best-of-2016-awards/Best_Anime_Series
Voted!

>>2217209
>loving father
>abandon daughter
>ignores her after encountering her and send her to dangerous missions on PI
>tries to shot her body dead

Salt is the worst father.

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Is this an accurate distribution of animal attributes amongst the cast?

>>2217396
Perhaps because he is her uncle?

>>2217435
Salt has a brother?

>>2217432
Sure, but why do Cocona and Papika have four ears? Furry is weird.

>>2217438
Dr. Pepper.

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I don't think Papika is this muscular.

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>>2218603

Ep 12 pv:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR7tdHBJywM

>>2218669

Ohh, they're revisiting the worlds

>>2218669
>Pops is back
>plant loli is back
>possible Yayaka henshin

Can't wait

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>>2218923

>>2218924
Get off Nyunyu's woman, obaachan.

>>2218949
But Sayuri is both Yayaka and Nyunyu's oujo-sama

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A little clothes damage and it looks like Yayaka is wearing a thong. Is this the limit to how much ass you can show on TV today?

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Is a 3p ending viable in this story?

>>2219143
Considering the amount of focus Yayaka received and the lack of focus Papika(na), that's the most likely answer. If no flashback in the next episode, it's pretty much impossible to have an explicit yuri kissu ending.

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>>2218949
Funny you should mention that.

>>2219148
It was more YYK focused than we've had before, but PPK wasn't exactly missing. I'm still hopeful, though disappointed that possession is interfering with our CCNPPK moments and that the way they did the plot locked CCN out until the final episode.

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>>2219148
>>2219259
I think we'll see this scene again but now Yaya cries out of happiness.

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>>2219143

If the alternative is killing Yayaka off, then I'd rather have OT3. She has too many death flags, just let her live, is all I ask from the show.

>>2219460
OT3 would be the best outcome for everyone.

>>2219460
>>2219464
Yeah because that was so great in Lagrange and totally not lame.

I'd rather she just die.

>>2219480
Yayaka is killed by Mimi.
Mimi is killed by Cocona with Papikana's help.
CocoPapi go off- where?
Will Cocona inherit Mami's ability to travel PI?
If so maybe the Hansel und Gretel world of the ED is where they chose to live and say goodbye to the "real" world?

>>2219460
The PV makes it kinda obvious that Yayaka stayed behind to fight while sending Papika ahead to rescue Cocona. She accepted her fate, she will probably survive though but she will not be a rival to Papika for being Cocona's "dearest friend."

>>2219361
I'm having Flowers flashbacks.

>>2219486
Something like that which upsets the usual storytelling conventions where everything becomes mundane in the end would be nice. The shows themes seem to be about finding a balance between realism and escapism, so there's some hope.

A flashforward which shows Cocona and Papika as professional PI divers is the sort of thing I'm hoping for.

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>>2219513

>flashforward

Seeing grown-up Cocona hanging out with Dykekana would be real nice.

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This counts as two women in this picture, right?

>>2219513
A way out is Nyunyu comes and saves Yayaka at the last minute, makes herself useful, and comforts Yayaka as CocoPapi leave to wherever.
Yayaka and Nyunyu become the professional PI divers and they meet CocoPapi occasionally in PI.

>>2219542
That would be a good alternative.

I actually don't think it's likely they'll kill Yayaka. More worried about Papika actually. She's suffered too much already.

>>2219533
Not sure if incest or selfcest, but I'm okay with either!

>>2219547
Cocona and Papika decide that they need to protect PI from humans. Just because Salt dad is dead doesn't mean that, eventually other humans will repeat their work.
Cocona and Papika stay in PI to protect everyones PI from people who would try to enter it.
Salt reforms FliFla and employs the surviving cast and they become professional PI divers using their abilities to communicate with people who have become non verbal or incoherent, like people with autisim or schitzophrenia, or suffering from severe trauma.
But as a result Yayaka and Nyunyu occasionally but heads with Cocoa and Papika who oppose deep penetrations into PI.

someone on /a/ just pointed out that all the women in Welwichias harem have either red/orange or blue hair sticking out of their hair wraps.
They also brought up the possibility that the MadMax PI might be Yayakas.
That Yayaka wants to sexually possess both Cocona and Papika.
The little girl in the clay mask that helped Papika is either Yayaka's past little girl self or the archtype that is now going to be filled by Nyunyu?

>>2219598
That little girl was Welwitschia's disguise remember.

I like the idea that the PI was Yayaka's since the spiky/desert world dichotomy fits, but I personally think that Welwitschia's and her harem were projections of Mimi.

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>>2219620
Yayaka's PI was ep9 though. The white ceiling represents the KKK changing rooms, her job.

>>2219598
I don't see the Welwichia going after Palio's, she sees her more of a hinderance.

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Papika dies after kissing Cocona and PI gets sealed. Flashforward and Cocona is married to Yayaka and they take care of immortal Nyunyu and a daughter they named after Papika. Little Papika returns from school and greets them with a TANOMO!. 11/10 Ending.

>>2219722
Get away from the keyboard, Yayaka.

>>2219491
She can be Cocona's best friend or whatever, Papika will be her lover.

>>2219637
Since PIs are relationships, a single person will have many connecting them to other people or parts of their environment. You could also assume that they change over time as the relationship changes.

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So no newtype spoilers this time? they don't want to spoil yayacoco kiss I guess.

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>>2220243
Shut it before I set the fist to pound instead of vibrate

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Having put off the show for a few weeks I just got around to watching the past 3 episodes and I really can't understand why you guys are being so pessimistic about the show.

It's still really interesting, and while it's not going in a narrative direction I/we may have expected (although not that Mimi wasn't hinted at from the OP on) I still think it's really good.

I also can't see how people think it won't end in yuri, be it super implied or explicit. Nothing happened - not even the age gap, which not a single character has mentioned in-show - that precludes the PPKCCN from happening, and at the end of last episode we got another daidaidaisuki.

tl;dr /u/ is being much too pessimistic and prone to doomsaying again. Nyunyu is the only addition so far that doesn't feel like it fits.

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Yayaka! **gasp**

If they are back in rabbit world, is THIS how Yayaka is viewed in Cocona's umwelt?

>>2220472
It's in /u/'s nature to be fear-mongering. Personally i'm so in love with this series i can easily take a non-romantic end because best girl simply being a lesbian overwrites any kind of disappointment that could possibly come with the last two episodes.

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>>2220472
My personal disappointment stems from the factor that up until Papikana said Mimi, there was an actual chance that we would get explicit yuri in a non-yuri work, unlike the fuckton of never going anywhere teasing we are so used to now in CGDCT. They pretty much crashed the explicit ending with no survivors at this point, so at best we'll get an "and then the three of them were the bestest of best friend". But for the first time it seemed Japan might be able to break of the formula of 'hey, these two might be living together, raising a kid together and even the stuff treats them as a couple but we cannot for the life of us confirm they are in love even though it would change nothing in their interaction, because otaku will burn everything'. What a wonderful thing it would have been. I still love the fuck out of this show, but it could have been so much more, that one title that broke the mold and stood as the steadfast beacon of yuri dreams.

>>2220504
I really don't see how the explicit ending is out of the question.

>>2220540
Papikana raised Cocona for a whole year, the surrogate father role would require quite some introspection to make it non creepy for the casual viewers and a show with an already niche circle won't alienate people with pseudo incest. With all the shit going down there won't be time to properly flesh out Papika's character and give her an arc. And Yayaka lost the moment her mom named her.

>>2220555
I don't really think it'll be an issue, because I feel like the previous temporary memory loss + age reset or whatever it is that happened to PPKN to become PPK is enough to make them distinct. I don't really know how it affected the decision to make it explicit or not, so maybe I'm just being too optimistic, but there's been so much buildup for it that it still feels reasonable.

>>2220567
That doesn't work quite well, because Papika is shown to be actively looking for Cocona in ep 1 with memory loss and all. Even if her conscious part forgot, the unconscious pseudo daughter-father role is already firmly planted. Also, take a look at how the show handles relationships. Yayaka made a remark that Nyunyu is interesting and that's LITERALLY the extent of their pairing. Sayuri has a subtly implied crush on Salt and the only one canonically confirmed couple had one flower scene and then she was pregnant later. Romantic relationships are really shied away from being depicted. It's just not the kind of show to go for a kissu, even putting aside the Papikana bullshitery.

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>>2220472
I envy you for being able to marathon those eps, because it's a different experience for those of us watching each week.

We've spent two weeks with Papicoco's relationship status set to daikirai, and things between them were pretty muddy for the two weeks prior to that.

So PapiCoco nuts - who got emotionally invested in the show due to it's charming adventures and character interactions - are hurting right now. And the Yayacunts being obnoxious pricks hasn't helped.

>>2220737
>cocona onee-chan, ohayo

>ohayo, toto yuyu

>tch...
>they called her cocona onee-chan...

>cocona onee-chan!

>baka!!!
>don't call me like this!

>ehhhhhh

>aren't you supposed to pat my head?
>nante?
>nante?
>nante?
>nante?

>anyway don't do that!
>urusai
>aho
>(moan)

>then why she is allowed to?

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FF is saving Yuri.

>>2220760
Thank you for not spoiling.

Warmly awaiting subs while resisting the temptation to scroll down.

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>>2220738
this translation is a joke isn't it

>>2220788
Why do you think that?

>>2220789
Not that onee-san but it barely counts as a "translation".

Pro tip: If you leave untranslated terms because "it doesn't really translate well to another language!" You've failed as a translator.

>>2220790
But anon did translate the Chinese into another language

>>2220790
I'm pretty sure they left it like that because those are common Japanese words everyone would know just from watching anime even a little. It's just that reading the handwritten moonrunes is beyond most people here. If anyone really wanted to typeset it that's enough to create an actual translation.

>>2220795
>I'm pretty sure they left it like that because those are common Japanese words everyone would know just from watching anime even a little.

That's an even worse excuse, though.

>>2220760
And that's all we are getting. Maybe on day one show will deliver.

>>2220802
there's still one episode left

>>2220760
Pretty much Mimi went "Please take care of my daughter" like a parent giving consent to her fiance. I don't think pseudo age gap is an issue anymore.

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Ep felt like a transition for the big climax but at least they are back to themselves again. YYK's a yuri martyr .

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>Salt wanting to get into that PI machine to ensure more screen wasting
>Sayuri blushing after him like a retard
>Papika saying she wants both of them back
>that shitty fucking fistbump
Pretty dreadful. At least YYK got a henshin and Cocona finally said she loves Papika even though it was more of a motivational speech. All in all there won't be a yuri ending, especially not after she said she loved her ever since she was born. She's basically just a godmother to her.

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TWILIGHT
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>>2220829
Could be better, but this line was worth the wait.

Now we just have to see where the final ep takes us yuri-wise.

>>2220848
Well... I guess Yayaka lost pretty handily when it comes to her claim of "I've known her longer than you"

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Don't discount our chances of a kiss yet.

>>2220848
At this point I'd considering a playthrough of Awakening where I base the avatar off of Papika and then marry Lucina. Using the gay hack of course. It would be the closest thing to a Flip Flap video game you could get.

>>2220848
I'm disappointed. Someone really needed imagination in order to make such a simple concept of Girl meets Girl awkward.

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>>2220857

>>2220848
Papika is pedophile

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Oh hey, guess I've got my wedding dress design.

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Also, Yayaka is suffering.

>>2220877
Incest

>>2220857
You know it won't happen.

>>2220878
Yayaka's response to anon's suggestion that she betray her feelings and take a loli consolation prize

>>2220883
You know nothing, this show can end in any way possible, I get there were pessimists in previous episodes, but this episode returns the chances to how it was before Mimi was introduced in the plot.

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From 1 to 10

How gay was this episode?

>>2220898
High subtext/10.

>>2220898
11

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>>2220898
8.
>I've loved you since you were born
^ may not be everyone's cup of tea, but in context I think it's still pretty gay.
>Cocona chooses Papika over a comfortable life
>daidaidasuki Papika
>zero impedence
>wedding dresses
>Fistbump (NanoFate reference?)

On the other hand it loses points for lacking physical affection and the kind of romance you saw in Izetta's joyride scene.

Ep 13 just needs a good kiss and no separation end to take this to a 10.

>>2220917
>I've loved you since you were born
Given the show context this line just made me cringe.
Not that i'm against age gap, but fall in love with your best friend daughter which you help raise is twilight level bullshit.

>>2220924
I don't know if I want to watch this anymore.

>>2220924
The good thing is that amnesiac Papika also fell in love with her by herself, so she's destined to fell in love with Cocona regardless of anything.

I'd rather think of it as Papika getting a second chance than anything creepy.

>>2220938
Or rather, Papikana getting a new life as Papika.

>>2220938
A rebirth or a reincarnation of sorts.

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>>2220924
>which you help raise
This shows you are actually not paying attention or not arguing honestly because Papika could not have been with infant Cocona for more then about six months. Which can not be described as raising someone.

Also, Papika is Cocona's first love, and the henshin here was a zero-impedance event. It likely could not have happened if Papika did not feel the same way about Cocona.

Which means that Cocona is also Papika's first love, and Papika's feelings are untainted by any intent to exploit Cocona or whatever ridiculous thing you are trying to suggest.

I'm usually really damn pessimistic about yuri ships but the more I think about this the more I'm liking it.

>>2220848
Mugino you...are actually right...this is literally a post-Breaking Dawn fanfic...i still hate you thou.

Frankly speaking, the way Cocona got out from that prison thing in episode 9 and then hold hands with Papika while looking at each other was so much greater and beautiful than this.

>>2220504
>there was an actual chance that we would get explicit yuri in a non-yuri work, unlike the fuckton of never going anywhere teasing we are so used to now in CGDCT. They pretty much crashed the explicit ending with no survivors at this point, so at best we'll get an "and then the three of them were the bestest of best friend".

Still feels like a ton of conjecture without much backing besides "I feel this way".

Now certainly my opinion is more or less also "I feel this way", but to already write off the show or an ending based on not much is a bit too far.

You might end up being right. But you also might end up being wrong.

>>2220948
Yeah, the chances that an explicitly romantic moment would come before the final episode was always pretty low.

>>2220938
>>2220939
>>2220942
These are a great way to look at it, and lack /u/'s trademark fear-mongering.

Also
>>2220929
>The good thing is that amnesiac Papika also fell in love with her by herself, so she's destined to fell in love with Cocona regardless of anything.

Age gap means literally nothing, as it was never mentioned in show and te only issue it brought up was a formerly amnesiac Papika calling Cocona "Mimi". Literally every one of Papika's actions from the start were far more romantic than motherly, and given that she didn't even have her memories and still fell into romantic love with Cocona says a ton.

>>2220958
>/u/'s trademark fear-mongering.
Which is generally right? Absolute trolls excluded.

There's a whole 20-24 minutes left of this show and not a whole lot of plot to go. The "friends" thing some of you are are discussing sounds more like a kind of during-credits-finale of this episode rather than a whole other episode.

I'm happy with the yuri level of this show regardless if we go canon relationship in the finale, simply because we have a canon lesbian protagonist in a show that's good.

Regardless, I think we're getting a kiss, people. Buckle up.

>Papika says she loves Cocona
>Cocona says she loves Papika

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>>2220959
>Which is generally right?
Constantly yelling something will make one right at least some times. People were fearmongering Izetta for weeks because there happened to be male characters in that one, but the ending - although not explicit - could not have been more /u/ except for a kiss. We even got a flying sex scene in all but name.

Call a show out after it's done. To every single week be the nee-san in the corner going "this episode sucks because surely THIS one stops the yuri end" only ruins the enjoyment of the show for oneself and others. Let the show happen. Enjoy it for its other parts. Hope for /u/ and if/when it happens or is strongly implied, be happy.

>>2220970
>could not have been more /u/ except for a kiss.
Well, it could've been, but I stand by everything else I said in that post.

I actually don't think we will get a kiss, but I am also satisfied with what we got. I wanted a kiss before but I think I was asking too much. Or maybe I just feel different about it now since ep7 was a month ago and that was the height of "A kiss could totally happen." for me.

Wedding henshins fueled by love isn't too bad of a constellation prize.

>>2220970
>absolute trolls excluded
Izetta was clearly pushing the yuri from the beginning and I refuse to believe that the majority of people who were shitposting about the male characters weren't just falseflagging.

>>2220975
>asking too much
Not really, it's completely acceptable to ask for it, specially now we got Cocona's confession.

>>2220970
Sometimes there's good reason to poo-poo a series, like with Hibike. That doesn't apply here though.

>>2220978
>That doesn't apply here though.
You wouldn't know that by these threads, though, and that was my point.

There's enough "subtext" (and text in general) in this show to absolutely support yuri. This isn't Hibike/some other bait-esque show. It's not Sora no Woto. So to see posts like >>2220504 is something between annoying and frustrating.

>>2220969
>daisuki
>no aishiteru in sight
>protective parental love ever since she was born
Text is there. Meaning is not.

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>>2220504
The moment Yuniko said she has no idea what will happen in the last few episodes I lost all hope. The het teasing is just another "fuck you" on top.

>>2220981
Daisuki can mean both and you know it.
And it was romantic love because 14 years old Papika felt the same.

>>2220985
>The het teasing is just another "fuck you" on top.

>Human girl has straight parents
>Not every single character in the entire world of the show is gay
>"Het teasing"

Oh boy

>>2220987
>Daisuki can mean both and you know it.
Sure, but very rarely and definitely not in this case. She's her godmother. Literally listened to baby bumps in her friend's belly. That can't be romantic and you and I both know this won't end in explicit yuri.

>>2220981
>>2220990
>daisuki
As another anon pointed out, it can absolutely mean both.

>no aishiteru in sight
>Look ma, I can see the future.
And if it doesn't happen? They're 14 year old girls and this is seemingly both of their first loves. It's absolutely Cocona's. She's not gonna go full aishteru yet.

>protective parental love ever since she was born
>Effectively gets a second chance at young life because of PI magic/quite literally being de-aged and having her memories hidden
>Still falls in love with Cocona

>>2220981
There's no point bring up it being 好き instead of 愛してる. The difference is not a matter of one being definitely romantic. In a context where 好き is ambiguous, then both are.

>>2220990
Cocona replied with the same daisuki this episode, and Cocona has no idea about old Papika, they felt the same because the zero impedance transformation triggered in that moment, so it's romantic.

>>2220991
>no aishiteru in sight
>Look ma, I can see the future.
Screencap my post. No aishiterus will happen.

>Still falls in love with Cocona
Because she smelled like Mimi and had pretty much the same relationship with her, which was platonic seeing how Mimi got pregnant by Salt. She even calls her "my gentle Mimi" this episode when asked to choose once again.

>>2220995
Gentle as if not the crazy yandere one.

>>2220994
This

>Many shows have literally only subtext and bait, and never even a mention of love
>This one has a character say she loves one girl in ep.3, has them grow closer nearly every episode and eventually reciprocate that same love
>nah dude doesn't count lmao

>>2220995
>Because she smelled like Mimi and had pretty much the same relationship with her,
From what we've seen of PPK and Mimi's relationship, Papikana was never in love with the girl. There was never a "daidaidaisuki" between them, and Papikana called her "friend" the entire time while also helping Mimi with Salt.

Papika, on the other hand, seemingly fell in love with Cocona from ep. 3 on.

>>2220998
Yes, she wanted both of them. In the last thread people were rejoicing that Papika ultimately decided that she wants to save Cocona when Yayaka came for her and said how that cements that she chose her love. This episode just completely demolished that perspective.

>>2220991
Have we gotten many aishiterus in yuri ever? KnM? And I feel like I vaguely remember people arguing that it could have been a platonic aishiteru.

>>2221003
>Yes, she wanted both of them.
>It is literally impossible to want to save the girl you love and also want to save someone you consider a dear friend all at once.
>Humans cannot entertain more than one desire at a time.

Still ended episode 11 saying that she wanted to save Cocona for love, directly compared to Yayaka's "best friend" in that scene.

>>2221005
>And I feel like I vaguely remember people arguing that it could have been a platonic aishiteru.
Knowing /u/ I would not doubt this for a second. I love this board, but goddamn is it sometimes the worst.

Anons don't seem to understand that aishiteru isn't just something that you hear often, even in romance.

It's not even something that you'd hear a married couple say.

>>2221006
It's not as if anyone would ever say that now though, which is part of what's so funny about it. Like, the show is just so fucking gay from beginning to end. But it still sets a bar that few other shows reach, let alone surpass.

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PV. Guess Papika brought Cocona back.

>>2221008
I understand that and choose to ignore it so I throw my toys out of the pram.

>>2221008
>Anons don't seem to understand that aishiteru isn't just something that you hear often, even in romance
And yet Ion keeps saying this to me in Ar nosurge.
Joking aside, it's actually pretty rare to hear this word.

>>2221015
can*

>>2221003
Cocona and evil Mimi spent the last few episodes trying to force Papika to choose between her best friend and first love, and she refused. Which in this case is actually the correct choice since allowing your partner to isolate you from your friends leads to an unhealthy relationship. Presenting the third option she wants instead of one of accepting the binary choice that Cocona and Mimi forced on her was Papika's own contribution to the theme of choosing your own course of action which we were hammered over the head with in Cocona's case.

Papika's answer to this question was going to be controversial no matter what. The fact that the show forced her in to this corner in the first place was pretty interesting, and narratively risky.

>>2221005
Someone told me recently that aishiteru's are cringe-level cheesy for the Japanese.

Honestly I don't think we will get the yuri end we are looking for. It's quite clear that Papika love Cocona as a parent or God parent. I personally think it would be cool and pleasantly surprising if Papika aged to her regular age by the end of the series and she marries Salt to raise Cocona. Cocona and Yayaka can then still get together if you're into that sort of thing.

>>2221022
>it's quite clear
No, it's not clear at all considering amnesiac Papika.

>>2221005
I haven't seen every yuri related anime ever, but Shizuma's love confession comes to mind. That might make it the most "recent" aishiteru confession. Really sad.

>>2221021
Sounds pretty appropriate for KnM, yup.

>>2221024
She's no longer amnesiac. You can't fuck someone while having memories of holding them in your hands as an infant.

>>2221019
Agreed on all parts. It was far more interesting than leaving things as binary as "Mimi bad Cocona good"

>>2221025
2013 Yukari in Yuyushiki said aishiteru

>>2221028
I sure can.
And she no longer being doesn't deny everything that happened between them when she was.
She said so herself, she isn't Papikana anymore, she's Papika.

>>2221028
The love she developed while amnesiac still counts, and the fact that she didn't age up when Mimi returned or when she regained her memories effectively makes Papika a different character than Papikana, given another chance to gain youth and love.

>>2221022
>Papika aged to her regular age by the end of the series and she marries Salt to raise Cocona

What the fuck why would you want that?

And
> It's quite clear that Papika love Cocona as a parent or God parent

No.

>>2221034
>I loved you the day you were born
Yeah, she obviously wanted to fuck her silly.

>>2221037
Amnesiac Papika.

>>2221037
Fucking baby Cocona it awwight.

>>2221037
It really is the Breaking Dawn Jacob/Renesme thing.

Which is kind of funny and interesting considering that I'm almost a hundred percent sure no one working on this show knows anything about that, and yet the idea popped up again. Might go to show that the age gap thing doesn't bother a larger group of people than original thought.

I don't mind the age gap at all, myself. Papika probably already saw Cocona's vagina. A skilled and risky fanfic author could potentially make a good fic about Cocona "getting back" at Papika for that with a lemon or something. Not that they haven't bathed together already, but still.

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>>2221042
>Might go to show that the age gap thing doesn't bother a larger group of people
Or you know, perhaps they didn't even see it the way we want to.

>>2221041
I can't even remember how long it's been since I've seen that meme/doujin.

Thank you, I'm glad it hasn't been forgotten

>>2221045
>>2221012
These two sequences together don't make a lot of sense. Looks like next week is going to recontextualise things again.

I think we all can kinda see how this is going to turn out:

>Mimi dies either killed by Salt or Papika/Cocona
>Salt dies saving Cocona and everyone else
>Papika I am hoping regain her normal age
>became Cocona's guardian
>Cocona and Yayaka are best friends

End

>>2221050
Papika doesn't want her old age and she won't be happy if the good notEvil Mimi doesn't come back.

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>>2221048
I'm so glad they wasted two episodes shoddily setting this up with shitty side characters and shoving our main point of interest in the final episode. Yep! Really well executed.

>>2221047
I still don't know how to feel about this. I like age-gap but me wanting it to happen doesn't mean that the writers meant it in that way.

I was trying to figure out how NyuNyu fits into all of this, because she's the one addition to the show I can't gel with.

I can only guess they wanted to make Toto and Yuyu more sympathetic, maybe eventually switch sides (consider the "Cocona-oneechan" stuff, their little ceasefire when they could have taken CCN and her fragment in that hairball rather easily, the "Yuyu-worries-about-Toto-but-the-KKK-doesn't-care" stuff) and still need an amorphous loli for Salt's dad to use?

>>2221053
>I'm so glad they wasted two episodes shoddily setting this up with shitty side characters and shoving our main point of interest in the final episode. Yep! Really well executed.
Wait til the show ends before calling this out. It can still be good.

Also, Sayuri and Hidari (?) are fine. I don't see a problem giving them a little more screentime.

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>>2220970

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>>2221058

>>2221059
Call me when PapiCoco adopt a child.

>>2221062
Nyu

>>2221059
>>2221062
>>2221066
Oh shit. Ending confirmed

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>you will protect my daughter
>be her rock
What does she mean by this? Also did we ever get an explanation of what happened to that dead girl in episode 1?

>>2221086
Literally to be her body guard/surrogate father/older sister. There's nothing indicating Mimi's character to have a motivation about promising her daughter to Papikana, makes zero sense.

>Best girl lost to main who got family zoned
I'll never not be mad.

>>2221089
It could mean that Mimi felt that the only person who is worthy of Cocona is Papika.

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This episode encouraged me to confess to my aunt. Should I go for it?

>>2220844
You're fucked in the head if you're getting triggered by such irrelevant shit.
It was a great episode.

>>2221104
Go for it. You can do it.

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I'm happy to see a good bunch of /u/ being positive about this. I also don't mind the age gap at all and agree with this >>2220939. Papika is about to start a new life with Cocona.

However I can also see why some complaints yuri wise. Everyone fucking knows cocona and papika love each other. Next step should be obvious. And even if we got a confesison out of cocona it was rushed. What was lacking this ep was a more intimate moment. Seems like we are going there based on >>2220857 and >>2220867

>>2221104
What is this, Aoi Shiro?

It's insane how paranoid and butthurt /u/ can get over nothing and completely ignore actual positive development.

>>2221119
Yup, agreed, I won't dare to complain till we won't see last episode.

Lets keep it positive.

Urgh, this episode totally killed my interest in PPCC. I'm on Team Yayaka now.

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I knew it would make people mad, but the Papikana/Mimi scene was great. And I guess people can stop complaining about lack of explicit yuri now. It felt kinda rushed in the episode, but all the previous episodes have built up to it.

What is even gonna happen in next episode? It has to end with OVER THE RAINBOW, right?

>>2221133
It will end with Papika raising Cocona as the only remaining guardian since you know Mimi and Salt will be dead. And Yayaka as Cocona's special friend while Papika is Cocona's mom. I would like to see how Papika intend to make a living and raise Cocona though even though now she's a teenager.

>>2221123
It's another fist bump

>>2221145
Is fist bumping a new subtext lesbian thing or something?

>>2221151
No, it's a replacement for a handshake.

>>2221151
It's a play on the line "It's another bust" from episode 1. They fist bump instead of hug or kiss and that means the CocoPapi ship is 'another bust'.

>>2221119
It's assmad Hbikieshitters who are projecting their anger on actual yuri.

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>>2221131
Maybe you're just funposting but I adore YYK. She's the best girl and deserves all the happiness she can get. I liked her before and thought she was cool but from episode 8 onward she completely and rightfully stole the spotlight in my eyes. Seeing how humble and devoted to Cocona she is in this episode was sweet.

I posted it before but my dream scenario would be Papika aging back to normal and adopting Cocona and Yayaka after Salt and Mimi die.

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>muh yuri saving late night loli fanservice show doesn't have the balls to say "aishiteru"
You know what show throws that like it's no one's business? Motherfucking Precure.

>>2221181
I like YYK a lot but that might be my least desired end. PPKCCN love one another.

I just want YK to be happy and eventually be PPK's friend too

>>2221199
Yeah but Precure has het for main girls.

>>2221199
Did miss the part where we said that saying aishiteru is cheesy as fuck?
I guess that would actually fit in PreCure.

We've known PPCC haved loved each other all along, and nit only platonically with ep7. They made a point of hammering that YYK wants to be her "best friend", hell her "bud", vs PPK throwing daisukis for two episodes. How could they possibly not be building up explicit yuri??!!
I still believe we're getting our kiss

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>>2221218
Tomodachi is a powerful word in this genre. Especially if you're a reformed villain.

>>2221221
Don't get me wrong, i've been on team yayacat most of the show. I'm pointing out how they've chosen to show contrast between Papika who keeps saying she loves Cocona and Yayaka who has stepped down and repeats the word friend wich Papika hasn't been using in the last episodes

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Ange Vierge with less effort had kiss/sex
why FF didn't?

>>2221213
For shit ones maybe.
>>2221216
>Did miss the part where we said that saying aishiteru is cheesy as fuck?
Something you invented in this same thread?

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>>2221218
Yayacat calls herself Cocona's friend because that's all she is to her. She still cares for her much more than just a mere friend. See how happy she was in today's episode, just thinking about her. Besides Cocona is her most beloved place. Begonia symbolizing unrequited love and all that. It's not that Yayaka wants to only be her friend, it's just that she lost the race and is now content with just being by her side.

Also you don't hit your best friend's lovers out of sheer jealousy when they openly confess like this.

>>2221230
I've heard it mentioned a few times elsewhere online.

If Bubuki Buranki could end with a Reoko/Azuma end, there's nothing stopping Papika/Cocona. The only difference is that Papika and Cocona are both girls and Papika was never an antagonist

>>2221234
>it's just that she lost the race and is now content with just being by her side.
That's actually what i meant earlier: YYK has finally stepped down to PPK and now just wants to be by CCN's side as much as she can, and that is what has now been made clear.

Also in ep9 considering her past, unrequited love and antagonist position forced on her towards Cocona and FF I can kind of understand that she snaps and wants to beat the crap out of Papika. Double irony is how astronomically irrelevant her argument of knowing her longer is, as well as how she ended being the one picking up broken Papika in last episode

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>>2221250
Yeah I read your second post later and realized you thought the same. Truly the best most purest girl.

>>2221252
This shot is just heartbreaking

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>>2221256
It's a good pain.

>>2220898
5

It was riding high at an 8 or a 9, right up until that FUCKING fist bump. Oh my god.

I did not think you could possibly turn Flip Flappers into a non-yuri anime, but they somehow managed it with a single fucking shot.

>>2220848
At least Cocona isn't her own daughter.

>>2221263
I still don't understand what's the problem with the fist bump.

The kiss is for the last ep.

>>2220978
Hibike could still turn out non-het. The window of hope is closing, but it's not fully closed. I agree with >>2220970. Just let it play out. There's no need for bitterness and doomsaying before it's done.

>>2221268
There's no way in hell that Hibike is not ending in "they will date eventually" or with Kumiko outright admitting her feelings for Shoe. Stop being delusional.

>>2221221
Tomodachi is powerful, but not when it's competing against daisuki.

>>2221270
So why worry about a fist bump then?
Remember Kumiko and Shoe fist bumped.

>>2221266
Right. One fistbump (although kinda underwhelming) doesn't change the relationship they've had so far. Tell me you've never fistbumbed (or at least wanted to) your girlfriend onee-sans

>>2221272
I'm not worried about FF, though. I'm just pointing out that having "hope" about Hibike is delusional.

>>2221119
>nothing
>Twilight level babyfucking bullshit

The best they can pull off at this point is sisterly love. It's disgraceful.

>>2221272
Literally everyone fist bumped in Hibikek.

fist bump whores.

No spoilers please, I have a simple yes or no question.

Is this show actually yuri? Subtext or blatant romance is what I'm looking for, please help me.

>>2221277
There is nothing wrong with it when they're both girls.

>>2221279
It's yuri, but a conflict surged recently because reasons, go watch it and catch up before the last ep next week.

>>2221263
It wasn't the fist bump that killed it.
It was the moment when Papika was leaning her head against Mimi's pregnant belly.

That was the moment at which it became impossible for Papicoco NOT to be absolutely fucking disgusting.

>Hey, baby! I can hear you in there! Come out soon, so I can fuck you silly, okay?

The, "I've loved you since you were born!" just made things worse.

>>2221282
I don't care how much disgusting it is for you, it isn't killed.

>>2217254
lol, this isn't nurse love addiction kid

>>2221270
>Kumiko outright admitting her feelings for Shoe

Kumiko literally has no feelings for Shuu.
Shuu has very obvious feelings for Kumiko, but she has literally never given any indication even once that she returns them. In fact, most of the times she's even looked at Shuu over the course of the series, right up until this last episode, the expression on her face was one of disgust: "Oh god, not this fucker again. Can't he take a hint and fuck off?"

Kumiko has no feelings for Shuu. There is still a possibility the show might have a divergent ending, and have her reject him when he confesses.

I refuse to join the doomsaying bandwagon on this. I will never back down. If I'm right, I'm right. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. That's all there is to it.

What a bunch of bullshit in this thread.
For people saying it's impossible to be yuri because Papika saw Cocona as a baby...Go read Usagi Drop. That was a mainstream manga for casual readers in Japan, and it's way more messed up.

If it offends your moral somehow that two girls mutually love each other because of their age difference, just drop it. Go watch Hibike and be delusional about that os something.

But saying it's not yuri it's stupid.

Also, fortunately, Yayaka has no chance. Just give up already.

>>2221286
Kumiko won't end up with Shuu. But not because of yuri shipping with a clearly straight girl. But because otakus won't lose their waifu then.

Just face it.

>>2221289
… Then, we agree?

>>2221282
We went through this already. Papika and Papikana may share memories, current puppy is a 14 year old girl with the corresponding mindset, not the old lesbian aunt in those flashbacks. Once again, she developped her relationship with Cocona unaware of that past, and besides we still don't know what PI bullshit is involved. This sure ain't killing it for me

>>2221291
It's pretty close to killing it. It would take some masterful writing in the final episode not to kill it.

>>2221282
She loves her since she was born. It wasn't always the same kind of love. Again, as I said, just look at Usagi Drop.

Also, this kind of anime do tend to talk about love as a pure thing and sex is secondary. Just look at all those Clamp couples with almost no sexual tension at all.

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So who else flipped out IRL in this scene? I sure did.

Yayaka will never get the Cocona but goddamnit she's so good.

Papicoco being a romantic pairing is no better than mother-daughter incest, and before anyone starts with the, "Oh, well she only knew Cocona as a baby for like a few months!" remember that THAT'S ALSO HOW LONG MIMI KNEW HER FOR.

>>2221295
It was a pretty fucking good scene.

I meant to webm it earlier. Give me a few minutes.

>>2221296
>Papicoco being a romantic pairing is no better than mother-daughter incest

I know.
It's great, right?

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>>2221252
Poor thing. Her monologue before henshin was cute though. And Papika feels like a guardian, a role that can also have romantic connotations. Besides some awkard moments where Papika recalls Cocona actually peeing on her they can have a normal life as a couple. Wonder if the ones making this are into age gap given that NN seems to be just there so YYK can have a consolation prize. Yuyu thinks she's cool too so I say the cat is a winner.

>>2221263
It's not like they haven't hugged and bathed together before

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Ding, webm's done

>>2221324
What the fuck, I even made it variable bitrate. Why does the quality suck so much? I'm terrible at this.

>>2221295
She deserved the henshin.

YYK is best girl even if I don't want her to win the Cocobowl

>>2221337
After one week /u/ girls have come to love Nyunyu, right?

>>2221288
It's literally Twilight.

>>2221339
Absolutely never ever.
Nyunyu is a non-character, and she can fucking suck it.

Yayaka may not deserve the coconuts, but she deserves better than… that thing.

Sayuyaya is best pairing.

>>2221326
That's a long webm to try and fit in under the size limit. I'd usually aim for max 30-45 seconds desu. I always end up making a lot of attempts before I settle on my final one though.

>/u/ continues to hold omto the false hope that Hibike will have a yuri ending
>/u/ refuses to accept that PapiCoco daisuki each other despite already actually saying so

I swaer, they could trib on screen and shitters here would argue it was platonic

>>2221348
Sayuri obviously likes Salt, though. Give up on her.

>>2221351
Nobody thinks Hibike is going to have a yuri ending. But there are still some of us who believe that it may still have a non-het ending.

>>2221341
Yes, and?

>>2221339
Still not feeling NN. I want YYK to help raise TT and YY and get them ready to join the real world

>>2221352
I choose to purge this episode from my memory.

Fucking fuck, I just can't get over PapiCoco being just super weird.. Why did they have to muddle it up like this? Man I was so excited for this show and catching a new ep every thursday was a blast but now it just feels so.. Wrong? Hell they were so good but now Papica is her mom's friend and helped deliver Cocona? God fucking dammit, I know we've been over this and I tried liking it, I really did, but it just feels wonky to me. I'm almost hoping for Yayaka to win, and I hated her at first. Fuck's sake, rant over.

>>2221356
>I hated [Yayaka]

Opinion disregarded.

>>2221356
>muh age gap
>muh IRL morals despite this being fiction

>>2221356
Just keep in mind. The Feelings Papika developed for Cocona occurred when she had no memory of her past life. Though she now may remember Cocona as a baby it's not as if she watched her grow.

The "I've loved you since you were born" line does not imply it was always the same kind of love.

>>2221361
Unfortunately people can't help how they feel anon, and you being a dick about it won't change that.

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>>2221356
Weird or not those feelings are still tthe same. /u/ will come to accept age gap papicoco and Nyunyu oneesama eventually. Give in already.

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>>2221361
Age gap isn't the reason it's gross, anon.

>>2221361
Wage gap is awesome, but this is different.

>>2221366
I really want to give in, all I wanted was a happy ending for PapiCoco but now it just feels super weird.

>>2221358
Get over yourself, Yayaka is gonna get rekt in the next episode and you know it.

>>2221370
>Wage gap
Well I'm fucking autistic, it's age gap... I went on tumblr twice and this happens.

>>2221370
>Wage gap

I kekked.

>/u/ given a very very possible yuri end
>still complains

>>2221373
Izetta is the only anime this season that will have had a yuri ending.

Furifura will have a non-het ending, at least. Hell, even Hibike might surprise us and give us a non-het ending. But anyone hoping for a yuri ending to either is deluded at this point.

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>>2221370
This isn't the first japan pulls out something like this. But for yuri anime it's new I guess. If it makes you feel better remember Homura is a 30 yo lady in love with a teenager too. I still like it and hope for Ayanero Taicho to release an aunty papika x cocona doujin.

>>2221365
They can shut up, though.

>>2221374
Nearly every interaction between Papika and Cocona has been /u/, and the age gap hasn't even been mentioned in show yet. Not to mention double, reciprocated daidaidaisuki today.

To deny a /u/ end is to deny even watching the show.