Y/u/ri scarves

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>>2191768

There's one thing I'd like to point out first - all of these images look relatively bad, the designs are sloppy here and there and there's some heavy artifacting going on. We will prepare a good quality vector once everything will be said and done but for now we're just putting together some ideas so we're not particularly perfectionist about the execution.

Link to the poll: http://pastebin.com/J7CW33y5

We're looking for opinions and/or ideas. What's in the OP is our latest proposal for the front side of the scarf, but it's not finalized and some stuff has yet to be settled. So we prepared a poll, to see what others think.
The issues are:
- What font should we pick for 'Purest Form of Love'? Should it be upper or lower case?
- How long should the white lines on top and bottom be - same length as now or longer? Should the corners be round or rectangular?
- Which color scheme should we use - dark pink inside/light pink outside or light pink inside/dark pink outside?
As for the 'yuri' on the top and 百合 at the bottom those are placeholders. After we'll finalize the other aspects of the design we'll pick suitable fonts for both of those; for now they're considered to be of secondary importance.

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>>2191772

That's as far as we have gotten however. We're really stumped as to how to handle the backside. We had a bunch of ideas - like this 'grafitti on a brick wall concept' - but we couldn't do anything good with them. We're a bunch of amateurs at graphic design and we're not very creative either. So help would certainly be appreciated.

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>>2191773

Alternately there are some other routes that could be taken. We could resuse the same desgin for the front and for the back, either with swapped pinks or not. The text could stay the same, or we could use something different, like 'Onee-sama', 'Girls can love girls' or 'Homu did nothing wrong'. The last possibility is to use a simple pattern - checkers, rhombi, stripes - as seen here: >>2191772

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For the sake of variety and board relevance, let's also get some scarf-related yuri in here. S'getting cold outside, after all.

>>2191768
>>2191772
I like these

>>2191773
>>2191776
And these not so much

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>>2191778
Sure, why not. It's that time of the year.

>>2191781
Yeah, we just, ran out of idea I guess. Which is why we're looking for some help.

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I voted, but I don't have that much hot opinions about this. I'm down for whatever.

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One of the shittiest teams in the cup.

Nice scarves anyway.

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>>2191823
My mistake. The scarves are also shit. How fitting.

>>2191773
I would not buy this scarf.

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>>2191871
I'd be more interested in the reason. We didn't really plan to use it, so it wasn't included in the poll. We also thought it's no good as is. But the concept sounded good in theory. Just that we're pretty bad at graphic design so it went nowhere once we sat down and tried to make something.

So it is because:
a) the design is bad
b) the concept itself is bad
c) putting such a design on a scarf is not a good idea to begin with, and we should stick to simple, proven designs
d) it's Madoka centric

>>2191877
All of the above. I like Madoka, but maybe stick to general yuri instead. Don't try too hard; it's a scarf.
You could ask /gd/; they're only a few boards away.

Also, see about making the shipping package inconspicuous as to the contents please.

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>>2191887
Shipping won't be handled by some company but by someone on 'our side' so I'm sure we can arrange that.
Thanks for the response.

>>2191773
>>2191776

i don't think this is necessary. based on googling actual football club scarves bars seem to be the best idea for the reverse, or the inverted pink scheme that's in the survey. something nondescript may work if people want to wear it semi-incognito. if it has words, just YURI or the moonrunes would be fine.

chevrons might be cool. but i also don't know shit about design.

>tfw picked up a jacket that will go great with a light pink scarf

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>>2192190
Thanks for the feedback. We've put quite a bit of thought into these designs so let me address your points.

>based on googling actual football club scarves
This point was raised quite a few times. 'The backside doesn't look like a proper sports scarf.' The question is, does it have to? It's not like we're really bound by it. We thought something creative and imaginative would've been cooler than an old tired design. This is a rare opportunity so we wanted to make the most out of it. Opnions I guess. Part of why we're having this thread.

>something nondescript may work if people want to wear it semi-incognito
This has been also considered: if the backside will feature a simple pattern people could use it as an actual scarf. Not sure how many people would be interested to begin with, but it's a possibility I guess.
Unfortunately due to complexity of the logo we had to drop the nice thick fluffy knit scarves and we went for woven scaves which are still acryllic but considerably thinner. This is not set in stone yet and nothing has been agreed upon with the company in charge of this but it feels like this is the only option, otherwise the /u/ logo will look really really poor.

>if it has words, just YURI or the moonrunes would be fine
That was more or less the idea behind >>2191776 but we never gave that a proper chance. What you see there has been winged in 5 minutes using ornamets we wanted to use for a Victorian looking 'Onee-sama' backside.
Unfortunately once again us being clueless when it comes to graphic design meant it went nowhere. pls send help

>chevrons might be cool
Chevrons, along with a grid pattern, were part of the designs we've had earlier but put on hold in search of something better for the backside. They might get brought back and polled again, sometime next week maybe.

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By the way, we haven't actually had the chance to touch any of the woven scarves ourselves or even see them with our own eyes for that matter. If you're curious what they look like the best examples I can give are these two - be warned that one is worn by a man (although his face is completely out of frame) and the other has a design with a man's face, hence the external link: http://i.imgur.com/7gusqkg.jpg

>>2191768
Can i get some background information on what this actually is like who is 'us' and are these going to be real scarves for purchase?

I feel like this thread almost came out of nowhere.

>>2192295
Browse the general sometime, nee-san.

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>>2192295
>Can i get some background information on what this actually is like who is 'us' and are these going to be real scarves for purchase?
We were planning to reveal everything at a later date (on /u/), then make a very very basic website with a short FAQ.

The short version is that we're making what you see in the OP and we're working on the design now (and it's not going well, so we made the thread hoping a graphic designer could maybe bail us out). The scarves will be made through a company called diehardscarves and will be sold for NO profit. After they will be made - at some point in January I assume - we will disclose the full details of how much it cost to make them. The 'sales' will be handled by one person and they'll diclose their zip code so you can calculate the shipping costs to your place yourself to confirm we're not trying to rip you off on shipping either. I might as well mention this now so there won't be any doubts about whether we're trying to grab some pocket change - the ONLY additional costs which could be included in the final price is the price for 1-3 free scarves that would be used in contests. But even this will be polled and if /u/ will vote for 'no, no freebies, I want to pay 50 cent less for my scarf' we will accept that decision.

We have to order a batch of either 25 or 50 scarves (will depend on interest; 25 is more likely) and we will only break even if every single one is sold. It will still cost us a lot of time and effort. Just wanted to make sure people understand we're not looking to gain a single cent from this.

The price would be 15USD per scarf most likely. If we could sell 50 the price would be lower, slightly above 11USD, because that's how the company operates - you order more, you pay less per each scarf made. Shipping is not included mind you. They'll be shipped from US and we'll try to offer economy shipping and secure shipping with tracking and stuff.

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>>2192295
>>2192299

As for who's 'us' the answer is 'noone in particular'. Just a bunch of people from /u/ who don't even know each others names.
Did I mention there are no people with graphic design experience among us? Because there are no no people with graphic design experience among us. This means we have no graphic designers.

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It is my understanding that there are no graphic designers among us. Is that true?

It probably won't hurt to consult /fa/ or /cgl/ on design.

You gonna wear this shit in public???

>>2192300
Well then, I'm dina. What's your name?

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>>2192312
>You gonna wear this shit in public???
See: >>2192267
>This has been also considered: if the backside will feature a simple pattern people could use it as an actual scarf. Not sure how many people would be interested to begin with, but it's a possibility I guess.

Not the front side I guess but hey, nothing wrong with a rhombi patterned scarf.

>Well then, I'm dina. What's your name?
Hello. Many friends call me Alice, but it's not my real name. Anonimity is nice.

>>2192316
>but it's not my real name
Well I'm sorry that you're a man man.

>>2192344
Now Dina, don't be a vagina.

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I approve of scarf-sharing.

>>2192344
Don't bully Alice.

>>2192312
>You gonna wear this shit in public???

of course.

>>2192267
i like the idea of it looking like a sports scarf, but if the majority doesn't that's cool.

i also support ripping off existing designs that work if we don't have anyone good at making something original.

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>>2192549
>but if the majority doesn't that's cool
It seems they do, but that was part of why we made the poll: to test waters.

>i also support ripping off existing designs that work if we don't have anyone good at making something original
Wouldn't really mind if we found something good. We actually tried a bit a couple of times but it went nowhere. That's how bad we are at this.

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>>2191768
If it helps I bought an /sp/ scarf, so people do actually buy these

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>>2192648
Well we certainly hope they do, otherwise one of us will waste a couple hundred bucks to be stuck with scarves they can't sell.
We were just hoping there might be enough interest to warrant ordering 50 of them but it doesn't look that way so far.

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>>2192648
wtf i like /sp/ now

>>2192650
How many responds does the survey have so far?
For whatever it's worth I'd buy one too.

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>>2192656
~20, but of course we're not silly enough to believe everybody who voted would buy the scarf. It's fine, too; we just wanted some feedback. On top of that I'm sure some of people who are interested now might be turned off when they see that the final design won't be what they voted for.
We will actually run a separate 'would you like to buy on of these for 15 bucks' poll when we will have a finalized design, to figure out how many we should order.
But hey, if it's 25 it's 25. Hopefully that will mean 25 people satisfied with their purchase. There's not much of a reason to aim for more. We just kind of wanted to make sure that these will be avaible to everybody who would want to get one.

>>2191772
I like #9 a lot

>>2191772
>there are no no people with graphic design experience among us
Would help if you can share the dimensions and if it's going to be printed/knitted on etc.

>- What font should we pick for 'Purest Form of Love'? Should it be upper or lower case?
Title/sentence case are usually easier on the eyes. Full caps tend to scream strongly... depends on what you want to convey in the scarf. The last option looks old because it uses a font with tails. The rest look more modern, but the bottom left two looks the most legible and easiest on the eye. The other 3 options may look ok if you control the kerning and tracking, otherwise they look too loose. Again font selection also depends on what you're trying to say (and how you control those 2 things I mentioned).

- How long should the white lines on top and bottom be - same length as now or longer? Should the corners be round or rectangular?
This length looks ok. Squareish edge- looks harsher, rounder edge- looks softer.

- Which color scheme should we use - dark pink inside/light pink outside or light pink inside/dark pink outside?
Don't really understand your question. Are you referring to the box holding the text?

Just a two cents, options look too similar in terms of color, design and font selection to me- maybe you can try hunting for decorative fonts or changing the layout a bit. The emblem housing /u/ bothers me a bit because it's illegible imo. Maybe you can try moving the female signs to beside the tagline for a different layout option and to make /u/ legible.

If it helps, studying and being sure of what you (and/or your team) want to convey in the scarf will help in all these small decisions. Pandering to /u/ too much will kill your design because you're mixing in too many opinions and in turn kill your motivation to do things.

Hoping what I said helps and you don't get offended.

>>2192710
>The emblem housing /u/ bothers me a bit because it's illegible imo. Maybe you can try moving the female signs to beside the tagline for a different layout option and to make /u/ legible.
Not the person you're replying to, but that's the logo of our team, so I don't think that's gonna change much.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//u/

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>>2192717
What a fucking shitty team.

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Dimensions will be 1500mm x 187.5mm, and printed likely.

Yes, the box holding the text.

For the logo, if it ends up looking bad it'll be changed but we've got a much higher quality one for the final design that should help with issues.

Thank you for your feedback.

>>2192299
>>2192300

This is why i was confused, this felt like it sprung up out of nowhere and i had no background info although i think i saw some scarf design talk earlier in some other thread but still not completely sure what was going on.

Not too concerned out of getting scammed from such a small amount of money, i would buy one.

I only did graphic design in highschool so im not very good at it now but i think the /u/ emblem is a bit much to be put on a scarf so might have to leave that out, maybe use the words yuri and purest form of love but decorate the scarf with lillies

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Why don't you just make it like this scarf?

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>>2192710
>Would help if you can share the dimensions and if it's going to be printed/knitted on etc.
It would, sorry. The information is actually all in this thread, just really scattered by now. Normally I'd make sure to put all of it in the first thread after OP, but this thread wasn't made to actually tell people about the finished product but solely to gather graphic design ideas, and frankly we doubted we'll find anyone who could help. It's not like we didn't look before.

It has been partially answered by another person in >>2192776.
It will be produced through diehardscarves (mostly because they're the only company that offers to make less than 50 scarves). They the technique 'weaving', so it's not knit, but I think it's not printed either. We're not in agreement among ourselves when it comes to this.
http://pastebin.com/dG1QUgji has just about all the info we have as well. It's also worth noting that we're locked to a bunch of stock yarn colors, as seen on the page above.

>Title/sentence case are usually easier on the eyes. Full caps tend to scream strongly... depends on what you want to convey in the scarf.
This part has been brought up a number of times in this thread - do we actually want to make it look more like a proper sports scarf? If so then I'm not sure I've seen any that aren't ALL CAPS. Real ones use that for a bunch of reasons - it's easier to read from afar, looks more intimidating, proud. You'd never see lower case on a sports scarf I think.
By the way, originally it was all lower case. Frankly, it still is. The 'p's you see there are not upper case, they're just moved up. Somebody suggested that when we made some designs with all lower case and it stuck.

>The other 3 options may look ok if you control the kerning and tracking, otherwise they look too loose.
Keming has actually been brought up before - I also thought they look a bit loose. I think that would've been beyond us however and while I do think they look loose it looks passable.

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>>2192710
>Again font selection also depends on what you're trying to say (and how you control those 2 things I mentioned).
I'm not sure we have much of a message. We just wanted to make good looking designs. I think the upper case vs lower case argument is mostly 'more like an actual sports scarf' vs 'more /u/'. As for the fonts looking either modern or not I think older looking font would fit /u/ better but all the regal, cursive fonts we've tried looked really awful. Fonts-wise we did a lot of experimenting on our own and we have a couple of collages with 20-30 designs each, with different fonts of course. The current selection was mostly based on that.

One thing that bothers me about 5, a design which has proven to be pretty popular is that while the round looking font looks nice on the image it won't be perfectly round looking on the scarf.

>maybe you can try hunting for decorative fonts
Those just didn't work, at least as far as our opinions are concerned.

>or changing the layout a bit
We certainly wouldn't mind, but we had no ideas what to do, aside from 2 other designs we have lying around and which we will post soonish, along with a new poll.

>The emblem housing /u/ bothers me a bit because it's illegible imo. Maybe you can try moving the female signs to beside the tagline for a different layout option and to make /u/ legible.
As has been said we can't edit the logo too much because it's not something we made, it has existed for a while and we want to keep it as is. We plan to simplify it a bit if needed - remove some ornaments, maybe the text too. Right now everything looks super LQ because it's just some winged images to showcase and idea rather than the final design which will be sumitted. We will make a high quality vector at the very end.

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>>2192710
>If it helps, studying and being sure of what you (and/or your team) want to convey in the scarf will help in all these small decisions.
As has been said before we don't have much of a message. We just wanted a nice, clean design. There are a bunch of things associated with /u/ which we probably wanna convey but it's not easy - for one we've heard opinions that the scarf looks more 'pure' with lower case font, heh.

>Pandering to /u/ too much will kill your design because you're mixing in too many opinions and in turn kill your motivation to do things.
We've had the motivation for the first 20 ro so hours I think. Then we realized we're getting absolutely nowhere and that we're just going in circles. The design denoted as 9 has been made almost at the very start.
As for pandering to /u/, well, I don't think we mind. These scarves are made for /u/. The more people will be happy about it the better. We're not artists and don't have any aspirations associated with that. We're content just making what people want, with no regards to artistic values.

>Hoping what I said helps and you don't get offended.
Not at all, thank you for your input.

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>>2192782
>This is why i was confused, this felt like it sprung up out of nowhere and i had no background info although i think i saw some scarf design talk earlier in some other thread but still not completely sure what was going on.
Well, no matter how we'd go about making the thread it would probably seem that way anyway.

>Not too concerned out of getting scammed from such a small amount of money, i would buy one.
We'll do our best to make sure people won't feel like this could turn out to be a scam. We ARE on 4chan, so I fully understand why some people would be concerned. Rightfully so.

>but i think the /u/ emblem is a bit much to be put on a scarf so might have to leave that out
That's the one thing we don't wanna ditch.
Funny thing: we've managed to get a hold of one pro graphic desiner who likes yuri and he told us 'the logo is the only thing you've got there, the rest is forgettable'.

>maybe use the words yuri and purest form of love but decorate the scarf with lillies
Fleur-de-lis has been suggested as a simple representation of lilies and we've tried to incorporate it a bunch of times but it went nowhere. Using lily vectors we've found on the net didn't yield much of a result either. We certainly did want some lilies but it actually figuring out all the details regarding where to put them, how, what they should look like etc. was far beyond our ability.

>>2192952
I think figure out what type of scarf you are going to use, the material can decide what looks good or legible such as an intricate design on a loose knit won't be noticeable but silk would be.

Sadly lillies are more of a vertical flower where more generic flowers have a more wavy design that works well as a trim or border.

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>>2192992
>I think figure out what type of scarf you are going to use, the material can decide what looks good or legible such as an intricate design on a loose knit won't be noticeable but silk would be.
I think we have that part covered, we're pretty set on HD Woven from diehardscarves. We're open to alternatives, it's just that based on our research this seems to be the best option.

>Sadly lillies are more of a vertical flower where more generic flowers have a more wavy design that works well as a trim or border.
We actually found a collection of sensible looking, free-for-commercial-use lily-themed corner ornaments, we just weren't capable of creating a design that could utilize them properly.

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>>2192995
Well, I guess calling thse lily-themed is pushing it a bit far, but I for one thought top left one would be borderline passable. Beggars can't be chosers - there was no way we could'we just made them from scratch ourselves.

I'm down for this, sis. As mentioned above it's probably best to avoid all caps for the text.

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>>2193291
This brings us to the perpetual 'actual sports scarf look' vs 'what's more /u/' dilemma. For now we plan to keep the first poll open, but there are a bunch of other things we'd also like to ask in the next poll, which might get posted as soon as tomorrow.

The problem with the round, lower case fonts has been mentioned in >>2192947
>One thing that bothers me about 5, a design which has proven to be pretty popular is that while the round looking font looks nice on the image it won't be perfectly round looking on the scarf.
We'll do our best to prepare some slightly 'pixelated' images so that people will have a better grasp of what the design could look like on an actual scarf.
One problem I didn't want to mention so far is that that particular font is not free for commercial use. While we don't plan to make any money off this we are reselling things, which creates a problem. We plan to contact the person who made the font and see if they'd agree to let us use it for free, and if not we might just buy out the license, if /u/ will want to keep that design. It's not that expensive so it won't raise the costs much.

>>2191772
I answered to the poll, but I'll post my opinion here: the first one looks much better than the rest. Upper case isn't a must, but you will rarely see football scarves that use lower case.

t. footballfag

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>>2193304
We know. We've done our homework.
In the end some people are basically bound to be unhappy with how the scarves will look. Can't be helped.
Using a lower case font backside, upper case front side - or vice versa - is technically an option, but that's look like a mess I think. Will be polled at some time anyway.

>>2192190
+1 for stealth scarves.

>>2193338
Personally, I would only consider wearing it if it were incognito, but I'll buy one regardless.

>>2193310
>We know. We've done our homework.
It's not like I doubt you. Just felt like saying.

I would definitely buy a /u/ scarf and wear it, fuck what people think.

Personally I prefer all uppercase thin lettering but that's just me

>>2193426
I prefer uppercase as well. Sorry, OP, you cannot please everyone.

I'll buy one and totally wear it in public.

People will just assume it's for breast cancer awareness anyway.

I'd like to get one but I don't live in the US, there is any chance for international shipping?

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>>2193507
Pretty sure it's going to be possible.

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>>2193507
Sure, I don't see why not.

>>2192190
>runes
Yes, I think that would look the best.
Or maybe something like this sport scarf: https://diehardscarves.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/sports-scarves-page-soccer.jpg, with the logo in the middle.

I still think the board's logo is way overcomplicated.

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>>2193668
>Yes, I think that would look the best.
Two runes in the middle with nothing else would feel extremely empty. It would have to be something along the lines of >>2191776 except not shit. I'd be very much up for it because I like that design even in its current awful form. But it's beyond our abilities no doubt.

Not feeling too hot about the logo in the middle. TEAM NAME with logos on each side is the norm in sports scarves and I think it's a better design.

As for the logo, well, it might be too cluttered but it's pretty popular I think and we don't want to just ditch it.

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How about something like this?

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>>2193727
Does it differ that much from what we have? Text in the middle, logos on either side.

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Well, here's out first attempt at kerning it a little.

>>2193744
I'm also concerned that you won't be able to weave the intricate logo. Something simple might be easier as others have mentioned.

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>>2193831
>I'm also concerned that you won't be able to weave the intricate logo.
Which is perfectly reasonable. We're kinda worried as well. Which is why we're likely to drop the most minute details from the logo, like the ornaments and the small text.
To begin with we went for HD Woven because after we've sent the logo to the company (a high res PNG, not the tiny artifacted mess you see in these preview pics) they outright told us it won't look good on a knit scarf and we should give HD Woven a shot instead. To quote their HD Woven page on their website:
>It’s rare a logo exists that we can’t use – so put us to the test.

Like I said before we will prepare a slightly pixelated version of scarf and then we'll know if the logo is any good in its current form or not.
Take a look at this scarf though. The Rose Game logo and the Northwesterner Mutual logo came out nice and clean. They're nowhere near the complexity of our logo but still, looking at the quality makes me feel we can pull this off.

We don't mind dropping the font and we don't mind changing the design itself but the logo is one thing we don't really wanna drop.

Personally at this stage I'm a bit more worried about the quality of the scarf, rather than whether the design will look nice on it. Quite a few people have said they'd like to use them as proper scarves. I'm just worried they'll be too thin and stuff. This is why we wanted to order knit scarves instead but unfortunately you can't have the cookie and eat the cookie.

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>>2193873

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>>2193873
If you aim to make this scarf wearable and not just a closet pride item, consider dropping that /u/ logo altogether.

Instead, use a silhouette lily as our symbol. The other phrases are all good to keep: yuri, 百合, purest form of love.

Does it really have to be so pink?

>>2193893
That's the team color.

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>>2193893
We wanted to stick to pink and white, and white looked really awful as a background color.

>>2193888
>If you aim to make this scarf wearable and not just a closet pride item, consider dropping that /u/ logo altogether.
That's the point of the 'stealth' backside.

We already made a verison with lilies and it looked pretty awful (>>2191776). Finding free lily vectors is a nightmare, too.

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If many prefer 'intimidating' all caps letters, also consider "YURI SHALL CONQUER THE EARTH" for text

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>>2193899
Noted. I saw actually thinking about asking for suggestions regarding what else could be used. Has to be sensibly long. GIRLS CAN LOVE GIRLS and HOMU DID NOTHING WRONG have been suggested before. FORBIDDEN LOVE feels a bit pointless considering 'Purest Form of Love' is on the front side.

I might include a comment box for this in the next poll, which I hope will be posted today, but that will depend on the progress with the designs.

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A possible solution for the intricate logo problem: stylized /u/ on one side and a lily flower on the other like on pic related.

>>2193744
Typeface needs to be way heavier.

>>2193744
Emblemwise I think you can get away with removing the the text in the circle and everything outside the circle.

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Is scarf-sharing corrupting our youth?

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>>2194133
Yes.

>>2194133
This is blasphemy! Those are two different scarves!

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Alright, here's the second poll: http://pastebin.com/vpJ4MgUG

>>2194117
Looking at the first plenty of people wanted lower case font and 0, the design with serifs and 'heaviest' looing font wasn't very popular.

>>2194125
We will probably ditch the text and ornaments but we don't want to ditch the lilies. Depending on things these might be the only one we'll be getting.

>>2194201
!!! CHEVRONS

thank you for your work on this, neesans.

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>>2194204
Sorry, I blew the poll. I edited the old one and as such one question was completely wrong. My apology. I cleared the only response we've had so far - I assume yours. You should be able to vote again now that the faulty question was fixed.
Again, sorry for the trouble.

I've been lurking this thread and I think it's about time to introduce myself. My name is Shell Shock, I'm the one who started all these scarves shenanigans.

Thank you to everyone who has participated so far, especially when voting on a design. If you are interested in getting a scarf, please email me, [email protected], to get on the pre-order list. If we can get 25 names on the list before we put in the order, I'll throw down for 50 scarves.

Let me be the first to say this is not about money. I don't want to make money, I want a /u/ scarf. Everything will be done at cost, with 100% transparency. Right now, assuming an order of 25 scarves, it's going to be about $15 each plus shipping. If we do an order of 50, that drops to about $10.

I'll take questions, if there are any.

>>2194245
Favorite manga? I cannot judge you before I know your tastes.

>>2194245
Where are you based? I need this information to calculate how much shipping would cost, no need for specifics just country/state is enough.

>>2194249
Dallas

>>2194248
Azumanga Daioh

>>2191776
I unironically like this one the most. It leaves something to the imagination.

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>>2194294
Good concept, bad execution. I think it could be pretty great if someone who knew what they're doing gave it a shot. But you're stuck with us.

>>2194201
I agree with >>2194117
The font is the only thing that's bothering me.

>>2191776
>>2194294
I like it, since it allows some nice stealth yuri.

>>2191776
Really hope whatever the final design ends up being uses something like this on the reverse side.

Does this look retarded without the square pattern in the back? Feel like it might look nice and clean but could also be too plain.

>>2194297
I thought there was a graphic designer that was found?

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>>2194245
>>2191772
>>2191773
>>2191776
>Shit scarves for a shit team
With /u/'s shit performance every year, you don't have the right to make scarves or any merchandise for them. They couldn't beat a team no one cared about or even win a damn Babby. Those pathetic designs and low pre-orders say very much about the team.

The /u/ management had their chance at the Autumn Babby and they fucked it up big time. Had they beat that one shit team, /u/ would've finally won a cup and gotten most of the awards. Now that very shit team has all of them when they don't deserve them.

Try winning a whole cup first before selling anything as if you're the GOAT. You're just goats at the moment.

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>>2194382
>>2194117
Well, do you have any specific proposals then?

The point of the first 2 questions in the first poll was mostly to figure out precisely this. The upper vs lower case votes were split extremely evenly. Some people spoke out against upper case in the thread as well. >>2192710 >>2193291
The one 'heavier' looking font we had has proven to be way less popular than one of the lower case fonts.
To put it simply I don't think people want a heavier typeface, or at least that's not what the polls indicate. But again, if you have something you'd like to propose we can probably poll that again. Although I was kinda hoping we could maybe wrap up the process this week.

>>2194469
Is it really stealth if it has moonrunes? All those ornaments seem kinda questionable, too. Not something you'd catch me wearing in public anyway.

>>2194528
>Does this look retarded without the square pattern in the back? Feel like it might look nice and clean but could also be too plain.
Yeah, it looks empty.
Sorry but I dont think we know how to tackle this one.

>>2194570
Unless you mean the couple words of advice >>2192710 gave us then no.

>>2194597
>All those ornaments seem kinda questionable, too. Not something you'd catch me wearing in public anyway.
I'd rather wear a scarf in public which has two runes & ornaments over one which blurts out "Yuri - purest form of love"

>>2194597
>Is it really stealth if it has moonrunes?
not like many people would know what those runes mean. theyll see the box-house and think its chinese characters with a really deep meaning.

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>>2194600
>I'd rather wear a scarf in public which has two runes & ornaments over one which blurts out "Yuri - purest form of love"
Obviously. Which is the entire reason why the rhombi backside is even in the conversation.

>>2194604
Well, that's one way to look at it. Personally I take my 'don't reveal your powerlevel' policies very seriously so I'd be hesitant to wear even that. To each his own.

>>2194245
how much international shipping will cost?

i once participate the /k/ patches.

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>>2194612
Try calculating costs yourself using usps.com. >>2194257

From what I gather you have a scarf already so you should be able to figure out the estimates for weight and dimensions. Unlike us truth to be told. Feel free to fill us in so others can do the same.

>>2194597
ah ok, well i was going to have a stab at designing it

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>>2194623
Sure, go ahead!

>>2191768
One thing, OP.

If more than one design is popular, you could consider making more than one design. Chances are fans would buy both if they're interested enough.

>>2192951
>the scarf looks more 'pure' with lower case font
By what logic? Besides, wouldn't the logo which uses upper case need to be modified too?

>>2191823
>>2192740
>>2194583
Used to be a consistent quarter-finalist before last elite cup (which was a complete shitfest where 3 of the top 4 teams got relegated and the last one was knocked out of RO16). Far from being a shitty team.

>>2192267
>The question is, does it have to?
If it doesn't, then that defeats the whole point of having a sports scarf in the first place. If it doesn't look like a proper sports scarf, you might as well not bother with one at all.

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>>2194635
>If more than one design is popular, you could consider making more than one design. Chances are fans would buy both if they're interested enough.
It's not like it never occured to us but if it complicates matters. One, we would have to order two batches of 25, and the scarves would end up costing a bit more. I'll calrify something here, >>2194245 said it'd be 'about 10$' but I think they consulted the wrong table. It's roughly 12$ for HD Woven (10$ was for classic knit). Wanted to clarify this.

Anyway yeah, one potential problem would be the price, as we wanted to go down as low as possible. The other one is that one design might end up being considerably more popular than the other. We sell all of the more popular one, are left with quite a few less popular scarves and noone wants to really buy them.
Keep in mind we're not breaking even unless we will sell each single one.
But again, yes, this has occured to us before and we might give it more thought later. For now though we don't even have any solid designs I'd say. We have like 3 (2 frontside, one backside) which people seem to like, and even then the opinions are very divided.

>By what logic? Besides, wouldn't the logo which uses upper case need to be modified too?
Don't ask me, not my words. Maybe because it looks less intimidating that way.
And yes we will most likely drop the text from the logo, it wouldn't look good on the scarf.

>If it doesn't, then that defeats the whole point of having a sports scarf in the first place. If it doesn't look like a proper sports scarf, you might as well not bother with one at all.
Opinions I guess.
To begin with I don't think we tried to design a 'sports scarf' when we made these but a '/u/ scarf'.

Oh and, don't feed the trolls. Just ignore them. When they don't get the precious (You)s they're fishing for they tend to give up. I wouldn't even call that bait, it was more like a bare hook.

>>2194639
If the poll results are close enough for two or more designs it'd probably be better to use all of them. But I have to ask: do the batches have to be in multiples of 25? That sounds kind of restrictive when you can't have, say, 30 of one and 20 of the other.

>Keep in mind we're not breaking even unless we will sell each single one.
Damn. Did you ask /sp/ how they managed the situation enough, to the extent of being able to give them out in random contests? I don't find it likely that it came out of their own pockets. Maybe they raised the price by $1 per scarf and in return gave a couple out in contests? I don't know (and raising prices seems like a dick move anyway).

>To begin with I don't think we tried to design a 'sports scarf' when we made these but a '/u/ scarf'.
If you also want to reach out to those who don't care about the cup, then maybe that would make sense. But if you're making it for those who do care about the cup, then I honestly can't see it as anything other than a sports scarf.

And if it's the latter case, while it probably needs things that distinctively make it /u/, it also needs things that make it a sports scarf.

>When they don't get the precious (You)s they're fishing for they tend to give up.
>expecting people on 4chan to give up on being autistic
I wouldn't bet on it.

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>>2194647
>If the poll results are close enough for two or more designs it'd probably be better to use all of them. But I have to ask: do the batches have to be in multiples of 25? That sounds kind of restrictive when you can't have, say, 30 of one and 20 of the other.
That's how the company operates. They're the only one on the market who offer batches of 25, too. It's 50 minimum everwhere else.
Creating two separate designs creates many issues. Ultimately it'd be best if we could simply split people into two camps. I think one would prefer a more '/u/' look, with lower case font and rhombi pattern backside, and the other would prefer a more 'sports scarf' look with an uppercase front side with a backside that also features some text, whatever that'd be.
But yes, this complicates things considerably. I could maybe try making a poll that would try to figure out if the pattern I just explained is legit or something that exists in my head only.

>Damn. Did you ask /sp/ how they managed the situation enough, to the extent of being able to give them out in random contests?
They were probably sold at a cost higher than the production cost, which we don't want to do for rather obvious reasons.

>Maybe they raised the price by $1 per scarf and in return gave a couple out in contests?
Actually that's what we want to propose as well, but it will be polled too. If people won't be willing to pay a little extra (slightly less than 1$ I think) to fund 3 contest freebies we'll accept that decision.

>If you also want to reach out to those who don't care about the cup, then maybe that would make sense.
Personally I wouldn't mind that the least bit.
What we actually want to do though is simply create a design which will be liked by as many people as possible. As long as the majority is content with the final design we're good.

>I wouldn't bet on it.
Maybe. But there's no reason to give them what they want either, is there?

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There's one other issue which didn't occur to me earlier: since we don't have any sort of funding structure this is all paid out of the pocket of one person. If we were to order two batches of 25 scarves the total investment would reach 800$ territory. It's not just about the down payment, either. It's 800$ which they might not even get back, depending on how the sales would turn out. Something to think about.

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have gone through 20 different variations so ill post what i have come up with so far to at least get some feedback.

keep in mind i have not properly scaled and set spacing for every element so if something looks off, its because i haven't aligned it, im just doing a bunch of mockups right now.

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>>2194635
>Couldn't beat a nobody team in Winter 2016 finals
>Got relegated from the Summer 2016 RO16
>Had to be saved by a failing team to be safe in Autumn 2016 and for Winter 2017
>Couldn't beat the winning piece of shit team in Autumn 2016
>Dead fanbase
>Just can't be /firstplace/
Not just a shit team but a team that likes to choke and shit on every opportunity it receives. Blaming Summer Cup for the relegation? That's some sad and lame excuse. The relegation showed that the second place run was just luck. If only the team has strong council and fanbase like that certain pony team has, /u/ would've won every Elite cup and most awards. And if anything, for another failure in the recent Babby cup, the team should be disbanded and the management leave 4CC forever. /u/ doesn't need anymore embarrassing and impure cup runs.

>>2194653
Well shit. Maybe /sp/ has a better outreach.

I'm not sure it's feasible to split people into two camps just like that though.

>What we actually want to do though is simply create a design which will be liked by as many people as possible. As long as the majority is content with the final design we're good.
I don't know, it kind of feels like it's going farther and farther away from its original purpose. Next thing you know people might, say, want some colour other than pink and white.

I feel that it's better to at least make some effort in serving its original purpose.

>But there's no reason to give them what they want either, is there?
Depends on person.

>>2194655
Should be around $750 if each costs $15, but the cost is indeed staggering. Well shit, looks like it's a bad idea to bite off more than you can chew.

>>2194666
I kinda like this one. Hell, I might even wear it if it was just the moonrune pattern.

>>2194668
>The relegation showed that the second place run was just luck.
Says the anon posting fanart of a game that makes PES look like a skill based game.

People forget that the whole point of this schtick is to have fun; it shouldn't matter if you win or lose.

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heres one with a smaller pattern after i got my mums opinion.

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>>2194671
>I'm not sure it's feasible to split people into two camps just like that though.
Well, since the idea has been brought up, and since it's not like we've never thought about this ourselves I will prepare another poll in a couple of hours. I'm thinking about the structure now.

>I don't know, it kind of feels like it's going farther and farther away from its original purpose. Next thing you know people might, say, want some colour other than pink and white.
We want to keep the logo and the color scheme. Everything else is up for debate. If we will go down the '2 designs' route dropping both of those is no problem on one of the designs, eithe, and I will outright include that option in the poll.

>Depends on person.
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

>Should be around $750 if each costs $15, but the cost is indeed staggering. Well shit, looks like it's a bad idea to bite off more than you can chew.
It's still almost 600$ even for the '50 copies of one design' option. Ultimately the decision will be left up to the person who's paying for all this, right now we're testing waters to see what /u/ would prefer.

>>2194666
Keep em coming if you have more, I can include them in today's poll if you'd like me to.

>>2194674
>People forget that the whole point of this schtick is to have fun;
>it shouldn't matter if you win or lose.
Are you new here?

>>2194677
No. I remember back when it was purely for fun.

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>>2194676
that would be exciting for me to be honest.

and if anyone would like i can upload the vectors of these two lily decorations i made, they are supposed to say 'yuri' if you can make it out.

>>2194680
You made those yourself? How nice.

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>>2194674
>>2194679
That's a good attitude to have and it's a shame many people have forgotten that. It's not fun to constantly lose but if you get fixated on nothing but the only desirable end result - winning - the entire thing turns into nothing but a chore in the blink of an eye.
Ultimately it is what you make out of it for yourself however. If you want to treat it like pure fun - great, if you want to treat it seriously - you'll get yourself burned sooner or later but it's your choice.

>>2194680
Do you have more than just the two you posted? Based on what you said I expected a couple we could poll against each other. If I'll just poll it vs what's already in the poll then that would kinda defeat the purpose of previous polls.

>>2194686
i didn't really save all the designs i was going through because i was moving around the same assets and not screen shotting or anything, i also didn't know how long until the poll so i was expecting to make more in a couple of hours or tomorrow.

>>2194675
This is good.

>>2194675
>>2194680
That looks very cool, but I hope there's a way to make the "yuri" text part stand out because I really can't see it.
It kinda looks like one of those black metal band logos.

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>>2194679
Where were you during Autumn Babby's semi-finals? The main manager almost died by massive panicking when that undeserving shitty team scored the winning goal in the last few seconds. You can even tell from the streamer's speech while he was rigging their tactics as the match was about to end. If you think the cup is just for fun and you believe in this "win or lose doesn't matter" bullshit, then fuck you and your simple retarded opinion. That's the reason why /u/ can't win anything.

>>2194692
i can make it darker but i was working with the colours on the /u/ logo so it will match and not go over the colour limit of which i haven't fully checked yet.

The texts on their own are only black because thats the original colour i have done them in, and they do kind of look like a rose tattoo or something but i guess thats me being poor at designing floral border decorations to be able to make the distinctions.

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>>2194692
here is a mockup with a stroke around the text so it doesn't get chocked by the pattern as much

I'm not willing to buy anything with text on it (except runes).

>>2194702
Like here, the giant /u/ means I can never actually wear it outside.

>>2194704
It has two sides. Maybe the bottom half will have runes if you want to hide your powerlevel?

>>2194704
ill try and make a design without the logo. would hidden text like the floral pattern also be unacceptable or is it fine?

>>2194696
All it does is prove my point that people have forgotten how to have fun.

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>>2194704

the bottom half is a mockup for you, but i still don't know if the lily text is fine.

oh and don't mind the top half, i was just playing with larger strokes

>>2194712
And all it does is prove my point that people have forgotten that winning is everything.

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>>2194688
I would like to make a poll in a couple of hours but if you need time we can postpone that until tomorrow.

>>2194697
>not go over the colour limit of which i haven't fully checked yet.
If you mean the max that can be on one scarf it's 6 (both sides).

>>2194704
>I'm not willing to buy anything with text on it (except runes).
On both sides?

>>2194704
>Like here, the giant /u/ means I can never actually wear it outside.
Again, that's the entire point of having different pattern on both sides. You can use that particular design just fine, if you're alright with runes.

>>2194714
Thank Madokami for that.

>>2194676
Well then, I don't think I have much else to say other than that chances are very high that you'll end up having leftover stock, unless you want to deny some potential buyers. It's highly unlikely that there will be exactly a multiple of 25 scarves bought. So to be blunt, thinking of breaking even only if you do manage to sell all scarves is pretty much wishful thinking. For this reason, I think raising the prices a bit should be fine, since any profits can go towards free scarves for contests or something. (For comparison's sake, /sp/'s scarves sell at US$17 each. /mlp/'s sell at least 18 euros as far as I can tell. Even though both of them sell way more than 50 each.)

Personally I've not thought about what design I want since I put emphasis on practical use over design, so it's just whether I'll buy one or not. Haven't decided on that yet.

>>2194714
That's not what my slice of life animu have told me.

>>2194718
to be honest i don't think i can make a design better than the one i have made except for editing it based on feedback like now.

leaving it until tomorrow does mean i might think of some amazing new design or at least means i will get more feedback because timezones, really though whatever works for best for you.

I also didn't put thought into the designs for both sides, i was only doing the mocks on one side, so the other side can be blank or different, need feedback though

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Tried making a lily vector.

>>2194704
Is the /u/ really that recognisable? Or what is it that makes you hesitant to have it on the scarf, as opposed to 百合?

>>2194676
>>2194723
Oh and before I forget. If it's true that /u/ gets a lot of bandwagoners from /a/, you'll be selling a lot more scarves than you think. Moreso since /a/ don't have their own scarves.

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>>2194723
>Well then, I don't think I have much else to say other than that chances are very high that you'll end up having leftover stock, unless you want to deny some potential buyers. It's highly unlikely that there will be exactly a multiple of 25 scarves bought.
For now we contacted the company to see if they're flexible at all regarding two batches of 25 designs and if they could just split it 30/20 for the same price. We expect a simple 'no' as an answer however.

>It's highly unlikely that there will be exactly a multiple of 25 scarves bought. So to be blunt, thinking of breaking even only if you do manage to sell all scarves is pretty much wishful thinking.
It's just a simple fact. We could raise the price so that we'd need to sell less than all of them to break even. We won't however. The scarves will be sold for no profit, at the same price we'll have to pay to make them.

>For this reason, I think raising the prices a bit should be fine, since any profits can go towards free scarves for contests or something.
This has been already addressed.

>(For comparison's sake, /sp/'s scarves sell at US$17 each. /mlp/'s sell at least 18 euros as far as I can tell. Even though both of them sell way more than 50 each.)
Makes no difference. They were made by other companies so maybe they were more expensive to produce. Maybe both of them are sold for profit as well. One way or another we don't care.

>>2194728
>leaving it until tomorrow does mean i might think of some amazing new design or at least means i will get more feedback because timezones, really though whatever works for best for you.
In that case I'll make a poll in a couple of hours and I'll just use the design you posted.

>>2194733
We won't be counting on that. The amount ordered will depend on how much interest there'll be when the design will be finalized. We're talking as if 50 were a done deal but last time I checked we got 15 mails. So we're definitely not out of the 25 territory yet.

>>2194731
Not that person, but I, as a man, could not wear anything that has intertwined female symbology.

>>2194735
how long will the poll be open for?

>>2194713
Bottom half looks good.

>>2194718
>On both sides?
>Again, that's the entire point of having different pattern on both sides. You can use that particular design just fine, if you're alright with runes.

The thing is, it's not really possible to just always show only one side of a scarf. The other side is going to get seen, even if only when taking it off. Plus I don't want to always be nervous about something as trivial as my scarf.

That being said, obviously I'm just one person and you don't have to cater to me.

>>2194731
>Is the /u/ really that recognisable?

It's more the fact that people will be able to recognize that it means SOMETHING, and then they'll either ask about it or google "/u/."

>>2194676
>>2194723

I want to say I paid like $28 shipped for a /mlp/ scarf when I bought one.

Apparently aside from whatever safety net their seller puts in place for cost, the manufacturer they use sometimes fucks up a scarf and will deliver some in the batch that are cut off, uneven, too short, etc. They sold these at a reduced price.

Don't know if that's just an issue with their manufacturer or just something that's bound to happen with these in general. Also not sure if the manufacturer considers these "mistakes" and produces another for the batch, or sends it anyway and leaves the buyer with a shit scarf they need to try and sell.

Just something to keep in mind.

>>2194736
but who would know that lily is intertwined female symbology, it even only means that when translated to japanese. And even then probably has other meanings

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>>2194737
We're not gonna outright close any polls until we'll finalize the design(s). Both >>2191772 and >>2194201 are still very much open and we're paying attention to the results.

>>2194739
>The thing is, it's not really possible to just always show only one side of a scarf. The other side is going to get seen, even if only when taking it off. Plus I don't want to always be nervous about something as trivial as my scarf.
Fair enough I guess.

>That being said, obviously I'm just one person and you don't have to cater to me.
Whether you're just one person or whether you've just expressed the concerns of many is up in the air. One way or another polls polls polls.

>>2194740
>Apparently aside from whatever safety net their seller puts in place for cost, the manufacturer they use sometimes fucks up a scarf and will deliver some in the batch that are cut off, uneven, too short, etc. They sold these at a reduced price.
We've considered that possibility but if that will happen to us we're going to try to get all the misprinted scarves refunded. Hopefully there'll be no need to bother, though.

>Also not sure if the manufacturer considers these "mistakes" and produces another for the batch, or sends it anyway and leaves the buyer with a shit scarf they need to try and sell.
We might confont them about this matter at some point. We've considered the possibility but that's about it.

>>2194743
They meant the /u/ logo I think.

>>2194743
I mean on the /u/ logo in the background.

>>2194735
If it were an ideal world I would wholly agree with you, but the real world doesn't work like that.

But it's your call, since I can't convince you.

>>2194748
ah right, i keep forgetting that symbol is in the back there, probably because i wish it wasn't

>>2194735
i haven't sent an email yet but you can add 1 to that number because i would definitely buy one

I'd rock it desu

Not scared of anyone calling me out, I can just get my squad to hit a lick on 'em.

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>>2194752
Well, the approach is a bit idealistic but I think we'd much rather risk that than hear some unfounded bullshit about how we want to make money off this.

>>2194756
Please do send an email that then, I'm not the person who handles the preorders. Frankly I have mixed feelings about taking preorders when the design isn't finalized yet but that wasn't my call.

>>2194736
if you wrap the scarf on your neck, the symbol will not be seen

>>2194760
>about how we want to make money off this.
The time and effort spent on this is not worth it. If I want to make money I have better means.

>>2194736
As a man, I can and will.

Who's going to see 百合 and know what it means right away, anyway?

As someone said earlier, at least in America pink is always associated with breast cancer support and awareness, so that's what people would assume.

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>>2194761
This has been addressed in >>2194739
Personally I don't think it's a big issue but yeah.
Also I'm slightly concerned by how everybody seems to have settled on definitely using this as an actual scarf, before even touching it. But well, it's not like I can stop it anymore.

>>2194762
Obviously. Considering how many people are working on it and how tiny the profit marging would be we could buy ourselves a cup of coffee with what we'd make. But that's kinda besides the point.

>>2194763
its the female gender symbol that is literally entwined on the /u/ symbol the anon was talking about.

>>2194763
See
>>2194748

>>2194765
Ah, wasn't paying attention to that.

Gotta agree with him there then.

>>2194764
As in, I'm sure most people wouldn't mind if you made a few cents per scarf sold.

>being scared of showing off /u/ insignia
Fucking pussies
I'd bully each and every one of you nerds

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All right then folks, here's the third poll. Let's see if people want two designs or not.
http://pastebin.com/P6aMAYwU

PLEASE NOTE >>2191772 AND >>2194201 ARE NOT CLOSED. ALL POLLS ARE OPEN AND ALL OF THEM ARE EQUALLY IMPOTANT.

>>2194736
>>2194772
Somehow I don't think this scarf will see much practical use outside of watching meme divegrass games on hitbox.

>there are people who won't wear a yuri scarf outside in the 96 degree heat of November
For shame, sisters, for shame

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>>2194802
The real issue is that according to the producer it takes around 8 weeks for them to make and deliver the scarves, so at the rate we're proceeding we might not wrap this up fast enough for anybody to get any use out of them this winter, heh.

>>2194805
It's always winter somewhere in the world.

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Maybe the /u/ logo can be edited to fit more peoples' preferences, or if it is too complex?

>>2194820
ill try and make a design if i remember to when i wake up.

>>2194794
I just want a comfy scarf, anon.

>>2194739
>It's more the fact that people will be able to recognize that it means SOMETHING, and then they'll either ask about it or google "/u/."

i think you overestimate how much people give a shit. if they ask you can always lie, throw out some bs nerd stuff like "it's from an indie game".

>>2194201
were 9 and 0 supposed to be closer in design? In that the tassels are supposed to match the chevrons in 9?

>>2194802
i live in the desert. guess i will have to crank the ac in my apt and wear it indoors for 9 months out of the year.

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>>2194895
>were 9 and 0 supposed to be closer in design?
Uhm, 9 and 0 are the same design, it's just the fringe that hasn't been edited properly. It never gets edited because fringe will be multicolored and the colors will depend on the final design. It always uses the brighter pink in the preview images, except for the grid ones which were made like a full week ago.
We'll probably just stick to 'magenta' and white for the actual fringe but we'll worry about it at the very end.

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Those all seem a little too on the nose honestly with the big block text and logos. I would actually wear a cute yuri-related scarf but it would have to be a much more subtle design than that, something cute and casual that doesn't necessarily look like blatantly branded merch. I'm not as particular as some of these other guys that won't wear anything with feminine symbolism or pink or whatever, that obviously has to be a part of the design for a yuri scarf, but for the same reason I wouldn't wear t-shirts with huge brand slogans on the front, I wouldn't wear a scarf with text and logos all over it either. If you are insistent on that design, maybe consider making a more powerlevel version along side it. Are you still accepting design submissions?

>>2194923
Their thighs must be freezing.

>>2194925
They're keeping them warm with lewd thoughts.

>>2194925
I live in Japan and I can confirm that lots of girls actually dress like this in the winter. Sometimes I will see girl with huge heavy coats and then a skirt and socks underneath. Must not be as bad as it looks.

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>>2194925
>>2194947
I've seen the same here in Finland too.

>>2194792
>6. Please rank these four designs from best to worst.

Is this supposed to have a picture? Because I ain't seeing nothing.

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>>2194923
First of all, this was designed to look like a sports scarf, kinda. As such it follows the true and proven CAPS TEXT in the middle with logos on side formula. Second
>I wouldn't wear a scarf with text and logos all over it either. If you are insistent on that design
We honestly did not expect this many people to consider using these as actual scarves. You don't even know whether the quality will be good and I sure wouldn't want to downgrade from my nice warm fluffy wool scarf.
It was more of a 'gadget' in your minds I guess. I imagines people hanging them over their yuri shelves but this much interest in wearing them outside has caught me off guard.

>Are you still accepting design submissions?
Sure, feel free to pitch your ideas and we can poll them against other designs at some point.

>>2194955
Could you perhaps try refreshing? The poll seems to work fine for me and we got a couple of proper votes with no complaints before, so I'm getting the feeling it might be something on your end.
Pic related. Just use this screenshot if the image doesn't display properly for you.

>>2194960
Tried refreshing two times and still nothing which is weird since other pictures worked just fine. But thanks for the screenshot.

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>>2194961
Yeah I'm not sure what's up with that. Sorry about that I guess.
Anybody else having the same issue? Somehow we have very few voters all of a sudden, and this is a pretty important poll all things considered.

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>>2194960
>We honestly did not expect this many people to consider using these as actual scarves.
Ah, I understand. I didn't really keep up with the development, I just caught this thread on the catalog and it looked interesting. I suppose if that is what you were going for in the first place I'm not really the audience. I would just prefer to have something cute I can actually wear around you know, I don't get much chance to really show off stuff like that overtly so I love little accessories like buttons or bags or scarves that I can wear alongside more professional clothes. Something like that yuri tote bag from comitia 118 for example. If you are thinking about doing two designs, I think it would be good to have one closer to the sports scarf look and another that is less overt instead of two pretty similar designs. I'll try to whip up a couple basic designs sometime soon when I get the chance and see what people think.

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>>2194966
>I would just prefer to have something cute I can actually wear around
Well, we could have that on the backside. I don't think people are all that attached to the rhombi design itself, they just want something more neutral.

>Something like that yuri tote bag from comitia 118 for example.
Great bag, saw it in the buyfag thread, am jelly.

> If you are thinking about doing two designs, I think it would be good to have one closer to the sports scarf look and another that is less overt instead of two pretty similar designs. I'll try to whip up a couple basic designs sometime soon when I get the chance and see what people think.
Sure. Looking forward to that.

>>2194960
I answered your poll, but I'm not too picky either way on some things.

>>2194900
ah, okay. i was asking because i think the tassels matching the chevrons looks good.

i really like those designs, have you tried making the chevrons white to match the text/lines? might be able to drop the lines entirely too.

>>2194960
i really like the sports scarf direction, and i'll still wear it around as a normal scarf.

I'd be interested in a way way way more subtle design

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>>2194991
>ah, okay. i was asking because i think the tassels matching the chevrons looks good
I agree, but there are two sides to consider, and the fringes won't be using just one color probably. It'll most likely be the darkest pink and either the lighter, white, or possibly both.

>have you tried making the chevrons white to match the text/lines?
That was a thing at one point, yes.

>might be able to drop the lines entirely too
Dropping them is fine but you'd need something to fill that empty space with.

>>2194998
Let's see what >>2194966 will prepare then.

when people give feedback on what type of scarf design they would like, could you please find a good example.

I am hearing all this want for something simple but not sure how simple and not sure if they mean a blocky minimilist or what.

thank you

>>2195049
they mean they don't want a Yuri scarf, they want a pink scarf with no Yuri related imagery. I'm ashamed of these nee-chans tbqh

>>2195056
Don't be a dummy, dummy. They want something subtle. So like the lily image with a pattern while keeping team colours.

>>2195057
I fail to see the difference, sis.

>>2195057
the lily image?

like just a lily laurel in the middle and thats it or?

>>2195056
Lets not start strawmanning, please.

Some people just don't want huge "purest form of love" part, instead sticking with runes, lilies and/or logo.

>>2195062
Cowardice like such
>>2194731
>>2193888

>>2195063
The logo seems to be the thing people are against

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Here is a more simple design, only the top half is being worked on so ignore the bottom half

>>2195058
>Can't see the difference between subtlety and a plain scarf
No wonder why it's lost on you.

>>2195079
It's sucks to be the only person that wants a yuri scarf, nee-baka

>>2195071
Would the bottom half have what? The flower?

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once again only the top one is the design ignore bottom.

>>2195082
interesting design, but shouldn't the background be pink and the design be white?

>>2195081
not sure could be the same on the other side or left blank, i think making the other side a completely different design would make it odd, but thats just me.

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>>2195083
here is a swapped scheme

>>2194944
Then shouldn't they be able to keep themselves warm with lewd thoughts even without all those winter clothes?

>>2195086
Pretty aesthetically pleasing, good job so far.

>>2195087
But then what about the cute style?

>>2195089
Just wear summer clothes. No need for winter clothes.

>>2195090
Alright sis, you're forcing my hand here but I guess we gotta try out both scenarios together to see which is superior. We gotta wait for our yuri scarves first though.

>>2195071
>>2195082
>>2195086
Too simple for my taste, I like >>2194702 a lot more.

>>2195092
They all feel a little empty to me, but hey too each their own apparently.

Just ditch the massive "PUREST FORM OF LOVE" nonsense.
Include the URL to the board as well on the thing why don't you.

>>2195071
Too minimalistic.

At this point all i care about is that its a darker shade of pink and that the inside of the logo stays.

OP, I think you should just make what you want at this point. Your polls are getting nowhere.

>>2195104
Addendum: It seems people are split between logo scarf and powerlevel scarf, so either make two or go with your original idea.

>>2195071
>>2195082
>>2195086

Too simple, these look alright but kind of defeat the purpose of them being a 4cc related item. The ideal balance imo is one where a 4chan user would probably know what it is, but random passerbys on the street wouldn't.

>>2194713

I really think a white background is a bad idea, but something like this in terms of design is probably the most minimalistic I think it could go without ceasing to be an item of "sports" memorabilia.

Honestly most of the standard designs would be best as I see it, but maybe drop the "Purest Form of Love" for something a bit more subtle so people don't feel as awkward wearing it.

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i changed the lily design slightly to fill it out, it was rushed so i don't like it that much.

>>2195106
i think 4chan users would never recognize a /u/ related scarf and the chance of running into a /u/ser has the same odds as winning the lottery and even more if they notice and recognize a yuri scarf at a glance.

>>2195109
>i think 4chan users would never recognize a /u/ related scarf
You underestimate the autism of 4chan.

>>2195111
checked for autism and pure love

>>2195109
>tfw you get beaten up by /a/nons and called "yurifag" in public
We're living in a post-meme society.

>>2195116
yuri pride world wide sis

>>2195116
Your post made me physically cringe

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just imagine the design actually being formatted correctly, is this any better?

>>2195108
I like this.

It looks very neat and tidy.

>>2195122
I like it. Maybe either the "yuri" with lilies or some plain lilies in the white space between the logo and the words?

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>>2195109

i'm pretty sure neesans outside this thread aren't going to pick up on >>2195086 much less the average 4chan autist.

>>2195008
>Dropping them is fine but you'd need something to fill that empty space with.

thank you for replying!

i think in this case the empty space is ok. could also potentially drop the text on the top and bottom and make PUREST FORM OF LOVE bigger. Then the japanese yuri could get put on the other side for the "incognito" bit.

also an option is scrapping PUREST FORM OF LOVE entirely (since some neesans seem to take issue with this because they are cowardly heathens) and fill it with moonrunes, or yuri and moonrunes.

>>2195122
>>2195108

i would not pay for either of these.

>>2195128
Thanks for reminding me why I hate this board.

>>2195131
Anon you gotta understand that it's one anon being real adamant about this coward talk. Don't think of him as the whole board.

OP did you ask if they can print our intricate logo?

>>2195131
fuck you too

>>2195133
This is something I've been wondering too. Things like lilies would be pretty hard to sow for a scarf, right?

Does this company have magic sowing machines which do it automatically from images?

>>2195132
>only one
alright sis

>>2195141
See>>2193873

>>2195193
You're the only one who has been saying that dropping "purest form of love" is cowardly, that's what he was referring to.

>>2195217
this isn't me senpai
>>2195128

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Please try to keep it civil anego-tachi.

>>2195104
I disagree, the polls have been pretty helpful to give us an idea about what people might want and personally I found some results to be surprising, and would've done some things differently had I not asked about opinions from others.

In particular the third one has been worthwhile but I'll wait until we'll get ~20 responses before talking about the voting trends.

>>2195109
>the chance of running into a /u/ser has the same odds as winning the lottery
Speaking of this.
Considering we'll have 50 scarves tops, they'll be shipped worldwide and most (?) people won't wear them outside...
If you'll ever spot a person wearing one of these you'll have to promise me to say hi to them.

>>2195128
>i think in this case the empty space is ok.
Opinions. Personally I stand by what I said - it looks empty.

>>2195133
>>2195141
Has been answered but yeah, >>2193873

Speaking of the logo, here's something that occured to me yesterday. We're only sticking to HD Woven because of the logo. It trades some quality for a better "print". If some people want a simple scarf without the /u/ logo then maybe looking into Premier Knit would be worthwhile. It's thicker and - to quote the website - "has a softer and fuller feel for a more retail grade scarf" (whatever that means) and the price difference is negligible.

I've got to say this though - I'm a Yuropeon and thus more in touch with soccer culture (and sports scarves are a socer thing mostly) and I don't think I've ever seen someone use a sports scarf as a normal scarf, except for people heading to the stadium on matchdays.
But it was also me who told you not to be too fixated on the sports scarf thing so there's that.

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>>2195008
i love this design, it seems completed.

>>2195128
>could also potentially drop the text on the top and bottom
agree.
i think if we want to keep the text, we better keep the lines too or it will be too bland.

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>>2195401
Well, we thought the white chevrons made it look kinda 'cluttered' and pink ones were easier on the eyes. If more people prefer the white chevrons look we could arrange MORE POLLS.

Seriously though, poll are good but depending on things I'd like to have this wrapped up in the next 2 polls.

>>2195418
I-I kinda like the white chevrons...

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>>2195418
>have this wrapped up
>it's about scarves

>>2195418
If you're going to make more polls, can you try to design them avoiding the "match numbers with numbers" questions?

I think I figured out how to comprehend that when I took the polls, but they're confusing as to if the numbers you select from the drop-down refer to the rating, or refer to the scarf design number. I wouldn't be surprised if you're getting some bad data based on other anons mistaking that.

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>>2195462
Alright, will keep this in mind. I'll use alphabet to denote which design is which next time.

>>2195420
Same sis. I think the pink ones don't contrast well.>>2195401

>>2195420
i like them too, but i also agree with >>2195418
that the design looks cluttered.

i think it's because the chevrons and the lines are making a wonky sort of box around the text.

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>>2196196
>i think it's because the chevrons and the lines are making a wonky sort of box around the text
That's my issue with them as well. It just doesn't look good, which is why we dropped the design. But it'll be included in the next poll, which will most likely go online tomorow. Might be the last one, we'll see. If not then it'll be second last, at least as far as design is concerned. We might run one extra to figure out how many scarves to order and stuff.

For now reminder to vote in
>>2191772
>>2194201
>>2194792

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Damn, sorry guys, something came up today. I promise to post the poll tomorrow, no matter what.
Sorry.

>>2197046
Just enjoy thanksgiving,onee-sama

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I decided to try a slightly different approach with the poll this time around. It'll be more time consuming but please give it some thought and fill it out.
As much as it pains me to say it I didn't include the edited versions of 'yuri' on top and bottom. Creating collages and discussing how to narrow them down has proven to be very time consuming. Since it's relatively minor we might just settle this among ourselves but if we won't reach an agreement it might require another poll. I know I said this will probably be the last one. Sorry.
I'm not closing the old polls but aside from the third one they will be of less importance from now on.
Also it might be best to limit the bumps to the thread for the time being since we're close to bump limit and I'd like to stay on the front page for a while, considering how important this poll is.

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>>2194960
Hi,

I made and sold patches that are /k/ and /pol/ related and my site has a /u/ influence.

I can work photoshop/illustrator enough to produce goods and would like to help /u/ in any way possible. That being said, 3 gets my vote.

Not a fan of typical scarf. I think eastern scarves look cooler and are much easier to print on. What do you guys think?

>>2194952
Finns and Japs are genetically very similar.

>>2197942
>Finns and Japs are genetically very similar

I don't know how true this is, but I have noticed a lot of similarities between us and the Japanese. Closeness to nature, liking melancholy music (enka and iskelmä music have lot of common), heavy alcohol consumption and humor that outsiders find hard to understand comes to mind.

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>>2197931
>I can work photoshop/illustrator enough to produce goods and would like to help /u/ in any way possible.
Well, I appreciate the sentiment but I'm not sure if we could use the help to do anything with the existing designs. I think they are more or less done. Then again maybe you disagree and have some ideas.
The only thing we're still struggling with a little is what font to use for Yuri, both the one on the top as well as kanji on the bottom.
Also, if you'd like to submit an alternate design however feel free to do so.
We (we as in the 'designers', not the board - I can't speak for everybody) aren't all that pleased with what we made but we've resigned ourselves to the fact that this is the best we could do.

>>2197942
>I think eastern scarves look cooler and are much easier to print on.
That's too much of a leap for us. I think we'd basically have to trash everything we made so far, and we were hoping to wrap up the design by the end of the month.
If you wanna go through with that however you have my support, for all it's worth. I can send you the files with existing designs if you think you can utilize them somehow.

>>2197985
Is the back rhombus pattern already settled as the simple design or is it still possible to consider using the background from >>2194702?

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>>2198002
It's not too late for anything. I'll include that in the next poll, if there'll be any. It's just that that rhombi pattern has been one of the most consistently well liked ones so I can't really see it getting dropped.

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>>2197985
Are you only allowed certain fonts like on a website form?
Depending on preferences, I have some font recommendations for serif and san serif fonts.

Aside from the scarves, if you guys have shirt/patches/stickers/button ideas, I'd be willing to work on them and have them produced. I basically make products and any "profits" (they barely exist after production costs and shipping) get thrown back into making more products.

>>2198047
I think buttons would be nice.

>>2198050
You dream, I make.

Got any ideas, g/u/ys?

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>>2198047
>Are you only allowed certain fonts like on a website form?
>Depending on preferences, I have some font recommendations for serif and san serif fonts.
Not really, although we'd like fonts which are free for commercial use ideally.

>>2198062
I'd like something with stylized lilies and maybe some Marian symbolism.