Sleepy edition
Previous thread:
>>2093423
Scanlations:
http://bakkinbakkingamu.com
https://almostbakkin.wordpress.com/
Doujins:
http://dynasty-scans.com/doujins/yuru_yuri
I came for the Flowers
>>2184867
Bakkin is finally dead?
Aside from Kyouko, which Yurus could you see working as lesbian escorts?
>>2185179Akari
>>2185196
Thats cheating, we know she is one in the manga
>>2185179
I can kind of see Ayano's life taking a turn for the worse and having to rely on that to make a living. Even though she does her best, her clients hire her because of that charming perpetual nervousness.
>>2185134
they're still alive, though a bit slower then before
>>2184867
How far ahead of the translated chapters is the Japanese version?
>>2199046
They are already fucking in those.
Post Christmas Yurus
>>2185259
>I can kind of see Ayano's life taking a turn for the worse and having to rely on that to make a living. Even though she does her best, her clients hire her because of that charming perpetual nervousness.
Sorry but Ayano is definitely the one hiring the escort, not working as one.
>>2204597
Actually when she is not infatuated she could pull of a mild cool pretty well
>>2204597
But Ayano has all the puss she would want, why would she hire an escort?
>>2205356
Because she can't get the puss she needs
>>2184867
>mfw my friends tell me to stop watching this anime cause its escapism
>>2205530
>friends
>>2205530
Those aint your friends then.
>>2205530
Yuri is just way beyond their limited consciousness, that's all.
>>2205569
>>2205579
>>2205606
they do disgust me, however they are my friends, even if they cannot comprehend how great yuru is.
>tfw yuri animu will never be a socially acceptable hobby
>>2205625
Lol in France it's acceptable
>>2205722
lol is acceptable in any civilized country dude it's the most popular videogame nowadays
>>2206693
>raped by her best friend
>raped by her big sister
life is suffering for akari
What's the latest omuro ke chapter?
Does enjoying yuri make me alesbian-identified male?
>>2209373
It makes you a sinner!
>>2209377
Either way I do things related to Christian
>HimaSaku is adorable.
>HimaSaku is adorable.
>HimaSaku is adorable.
>HimaSaku is adorable.
>HimaSaku is adorable.
>>2209644
>>2209644
I'm not convinced. The burden of proof is on you.
>>2209644
Sakarin is better desu
>>2210176
The sweetest couple
>>2216587
This looks extremely unsafe
>>2216709
She's enjoying it so it's all good.
>>2216880
So I see, but I'm not entirely sure why having vegetables chopped on you would be enjoyable desu
I don't want another season, because Three was nice enough and ended well and it might get bad and leave a bad aftertase with even more seasons.
But damn, I miss the times when it aired.
What are your favourite Yuru musics?
I like Koi no Double Punch
>>2222732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHh-KOzt0L0
>>2222818
>ChitoAya Christmas
I love you, Namori.
>>2219408
I never cared much about the show, I just want more manga chapters translated.
>>2225957
I should probably start reading it.
>>2222732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2OdO_naCRs
>>2216899
The sensation the sense of danger of food seasoned with your sweat made by the one you love
Huzzah
I look forward to 2017
>>2229488
>all that fat in Sakurako
Himawari is spoiling her.
>>2229579
She's trying to feed her boobs.
>>2229597
It is going to the wrong places.
>>2229579
Well she doe s love cooking for her especially sweets it had to go somewhere
Somebody better scan this.
Any word on the Nadeshiko spin-off?
>>2222732
Day by Day by Himawari Futanari.
>>2231994
>futanari
Anon, I...
>>2231994
それは恋ではないですの is cuter.
>>2232050
Pavlov can explain this
>>2233445
>>2233445
Don't you mean Freud
tfw no more YrYr to watch
>>2184867
>Somebody better scan this.
Hey..that official?
>>2242850
Is there really no chance for another season? I know S3 wasn't as well recieved, but the sales were ok, right?
>>2242850
I just finished watching S2 and I'm hesitating on immediately starting Nachuyachumi/+/S3 for this reason. I don't want the magic to end.
>>2246807
I started with K-On, saved the movie for months, then when I watched it I couldn't find anything close to it
Until I watched Yuru Yuri, that's the only thing that has, and now I've finished that and I'm stuck again. SoL are a dime a dozen but good ones are so hard to find
>>2246808
>SoL are a dime a dozen but good ones are so hard to find
Definitely agreed.
Have you tried Kinmoza or GochiUsa? I haven't watched them myself but those seem to be the next highest recommended, after YrYr, when it comes to yuri-ish SoL.
There's also the classic Azumanga Daioh.
>>2246813
What about Sakura Trick?
That one is legitimate SoL yuri.
Kanamemo is another good one too.
>>2246855
>What about Sakura Trick?
I liked ST a lot but it never felt SoL to me - the kissing scenes and more focus on relationships always felt different enough to me.
This is subjective, I know.
>Kanamemo
Never heard of it - what's it about?
>>2246864
It's been a really long time since I watched it so I don't remember too much of it, but it's about a group of girls living in the same building and working together delivering newspaper or something like that.
It's a really cute SoL and while there's a lot of subtext that goes around, there is a legitimate lesbian couple among the group.
It's highly overlooked but it does get mentioned a every now and then on /u/.
>>2246864
Kanamemo's first minute will sell you on it. I would definitely give it a try.
>>2246889
I'll give it a try. Thanks for the rec, nee-san
>>2247214
That artist is great (Kamiki Uutarou/Utaro9)
>>2247268
Oomuro-ke miniseries when?
>>2247268
Best yuruyuri artist.
>>2242850
The worst thing is that scans of the manga have slowed down massively, assumably since Sugiura Ayano disappeared into the aether.The manga is better than the anime.
>>2247304
That picture is pretty awful, what is up with Miho's and Megumi's faces?
Also SakuHima is still the best pairing.It is so good I am even writing a fanfic about them.
>>2247999
>assumably since Sugiura Ayano disappeared into the aether.
As someone who's never read the manga, that has definitely decreased my motivation to
>>2248030
Just so we're clear, that's the Sugiura Ayano who ran the Bakkin website and mysteriously disappeared, not the character Ayano.
>>2248036
Ah I see, well that's a shame but not as bad as what I misinterpreted
>>2248040
I think fans would actually, genuinely riot if one of the characters canonically disappeared.
>>2248043
What if they were replaced with a perfect copy of themselves like Akari was?
>>2248036
Is there anymore infomation, or that all there is?
If you are out there, as I know you did like to lurk this board, if you have just gotten bored of YrYr or of scanlating, just say so.If you are dead, don't say anything: I am certain we will understand.
But keep scanning the manga please, whomever is doing so, try not to fall into the aether as well.
Also either that >>2247999 or this one is my favourite SakuHima picture. They are still the best pairing.
>>2248211
>Is there anymore infomation, or that all there is?
Not even the rest of the team has any information (or shares them publicly.).
>>2248043
I want a sequel where Chinatsu is a hard-drinking womanizing detective haunted by Akari's disappearance all those years ago. After a long day of beating confessions out of perps, she notices an email containing nothing but a picture of an adult woman who looks a lot like Akari, aside from the missing arm.
>>2246889
Just watched it - thanks for the rec, nee-san - I loved it.
>>2206934
She is 100% heterosexual in my head-cannon.
>>2248911
Your head cannon fucking sucks
>>2248911
Akarin's head canon contradicts yours.
Can't decide if I like Akari/Akane or Akari/China better.
>>2250145
>>2250145
I'm usually a fan of incest ships, but I kind of like Akarin/China better.
I do wish there was a better ship out there forbest girlAkari though. If you're someone who ships China with Yui (and thus Ayane with Kyouko, probably) there's pretty much no one else for Akari. Splitting up HimaSaku is a crime, so both of them are out.
I don't think a new girl needs to be introduced but some more options would be nice.
>>2250145
There is only one correct answer.
>>2210528
I can't see Ayano's tits godammit
>>2250148
>Splitting up HimaSaku is a crime
Akari does work surprisingly well when paired with Sakurako.
>>2250151
It's a crime, nee-san. HimaSaku is perfect
>>2250153
Love is not a crime.
>>2250149
Yea they're a cute couple too.
>>2250148
Yui/Kyouko Ayane/Chitose frees up Chinatsu for Akari. You're right thoughbest girlis a bit of an odd one out.
>>2250156
>You're right thoughbest girlis a bit of an odd one out.
It fits with her
>main character but not really main character
schtick I guess. I really wish she did have someone, though. She's a cute, kind, and caring girl who deserves love.
>>2250151
Akari for Sakurako
Himawari for dying alone
The perfect solution
>>2250148
Just go with Akari/Chitose.
>>2250346
Sakurako is the only one that deserves Akari.
She is the only one that noticed Akari from the very beginning.
>>2250373
Excuse me, did she notice Akari since birth? I don't think so.
>>2250398
>rapist
>worthy of Akari
Pick one and only one.
>>2250403
>rape
>between two cute girls
You're going to have to pick one.Also pantsu make a comfy hat
>>2250356
I don't see any real chemistry between those two, personally.
Got any good fanart/manga pages to try and change my mind?
>>2250398
She has also been molesting her since birth so it doesn't count.
>>2250412
Sorry but the drama CDs killed that ship for me. Guilt tripping loli Akari into kissing you its not comfy.
>>2250458
The first oneWhy do I keep bringing this up, I am only making it more popular at this point
>>2250447
Actually, it counts all the more.
With how popular this show was it surprises me there's only one group even attempting to continue translating the manga.
How far behind are manga translations at this point?
>>2250966
Not very far at all considering the usual state of yuri scans. We're behind by one volume (14) + whatever magazine chapters are out and a few volumes in the middle are missing too but at least that stuff was animated.
>>2250966
Latest chapter is 119
>>2250966
They were doing so well at one point, they were almost keeping up with the actual releases, but then Ayano disappeared and what is left seems rather unorganized. I would like it if they at least kept people updated as to what is actually going on.
I just wish the rest of the drama CDs got released.Particularly the SakuHima one.
>>2250475
That is amazing, I am surprised that Namori hasn't done something like that already.
>>2250346
I hope there is a special place in hell for those who want to separate Sakurako and Himawari.
>>2251131
>A special place in hell for those who want to separate Sakurako and Himawari.
Somewhere where only /het/ relationship exist
>>2251131
I just assumed they go to the eight circle, ninth bolgia of Inferno, where the fraudulent sowers of discord are eternally hacked apart by a demon.
>>2251226
Awfully specific there Dante.
>>2251131
>I hope there is a special place in hell
What if it's the queen of hell herself separating Sakurako and Himawari?
>>2251243
She's probably a sadist that punishes those who tried to harm the Purity, so I think that she wouldn't do such a thing
>>2251274
You missed the joke.
The real Secret Flowers
>>2251289
You might call them the Top Secret Flowers.
>>2251291
I dont know whats going on here... but from what Ive noticed... we need to mention our lord and savior more: Ayano. Best Girl desu
>>2251347
>>2251351
Specially thighs
>>2251360
Rename this blasphemous filename at once
>>2252191
I only speak the truth
>>2251243
>>2251278
>china/brat
Weird ship.
Also bump.
>>2253774
*china/hima
Correction.
>>2253775
>Weird ship.
Aye, but have some more anyway.
>>2204597
Is that picture from the actual manga or an awesomely accurate fan-made drawing?
>>2254828
You sound ridiculous but anyway, it's this http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/ponite_ribbon_rhapsody.
>>2206934
>rape
>having someone drink soft drink with a straw from your ass
choose one
>>2248911
I guess it's good to have at least one straight girl in the ensemble for those who are into forbidden fruit.
>>2251243
DELETE THIS.
NTR images and stores should be illegal.
Does anyone know what they're saying?
>>2256873
>Na-nadeshiko-san..
>Wha-what are you...
>>2184867
Hello, /Yuru General, I need your help.
A while ago I came across a non-h doujin starring Yui and Kyouko, where they were grown up (in their 20s) and living together as a couple.
I don't particularly remember the details, but it was 100% platonic and had great art. Now I just went through all the yuru yuri tagged galleries on the panda and NH, and I can't find it anywhere, although I'm pretty sure I say it on panda before. I think I saw it over a year ago last.
Does anyone have any clues as to what this might've been?
Thank you very much.
PS. Is San Hai any good?
>>2256870
I need more stories about turning 'straight' girls.
>>2257495
>PS. Is San Hai any good?
It's very good. Don't forget to watch Nachuyachumi and Nachuyachumi+ too, though! They came out before San Hai.
>>2257495
>>PS. Is San Hai any good?
If you don't like comedy.
>>2257709
Stop this meme.
>>2257711
It's true, though. The anime's treatment of the scene where Yui stubs her toe while skipping and Ayano thinks she's hiding some deep sorrow, the funniest thing namori ever drew, was particularly lacklustre.
>>2257715
>It's true, though.
It's just your opinion, though.
ちとせXあかり
>>2257905
only as part of a harem scenario
>>2257905
Eating takuan off each other's naked bodies.
>>2257994
they are perfect for eachother
Why doesn't Chitose ever fantasise about Himawari and Sakurako?
Or anyone besides KyoukoxAyano for that matter?
>>2258768
Because Chitose only cares about Ayano so seeing/imagining Ayano happy makes her gush.
>>2258807
So is Kyouko actually canonically gay, or..?
>>2258768
I wonder why
>>2258840
I don't get it.
>>2258844
2+2=?
>>2258821
They're all gay, take the hint!
>>2258768
Because she has an ntr fetish.
>tfw season 1 is downloading at 7KB/s with 1 seeder
How the fuck do you guys get this show?
>>2259517crunchyroll
>>2259517
dude, do you even nyaa?
nyaa
dot
se/?page=view&tid=288237
On a side note, why is Toshinou Kyouko so fucking perfect in every way?
I can't get her out of my head.
I just had a dream about her yesterday.
>>2259532
Stop posting Ayano, we know it's you.
You know, I realize that Bakkin has translator dibs on this series, but the team seems so dysfunctional that it might be best for someone else to take up the mantle.
They could at least do recruitment for someone who actually has time to do the job. I understand that these are people doing this purely for the love of it and that life happens, but disappearing for months at a time with little to no communication doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
>>2259517
Best way to get older fan subs tends to be via IRC.
Google how to download anime from IRC. Or just make sure you have an irc client with xdcc support. Such as Chatzilla for firefox.
Go here
>http://xdcc.anidex.moe/?search=[Doki]%20yuru%201080
And click on the specific version you want to get idiot proof links to download it from the archive bots.
It took me 2 seasons and 6 episodes to realise that Raika is actually Rivalrun in the Mirakurun story.
Now I have to rewatch all the Mirakurun scenes again to experience them in the proper context.
>>2260031
Wait, WHAT?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE9gGjUBQBE&ab_channel=Chopin-GodowskyEtudesDavidStanhope
0:00 -1:54 - Sakurako?
4:49 -6:33 - Kyouko
9:33 -12:25 - Yui
>>2257715
>>2257717
OK, I was the guy who asked about San Hai in the first place, and I just finished it.
I agree that it was less funny than the seasons by the previous studio.
I appreciated the increased focus on character relationships, but even that could have been done a little better, I think. Kyouko needed more angry/sad moments.
>>2264878
>>2264879
>>2264880
>>2264881
Chinatsu:
https://youtu.be/-_eyiPKPO2U?t=6m11s
>>2264882
Chinatsu/Kyouko?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6AQF1nu-gg&ab_channel=TheExarion
>>2264883
What's wrong with assigning Yuru girls their own Godowsky studies based on their personalities?
>>2264885
>>2264887
>>2264885
Kyouko/Ayano is best pairing. Even above HimaSaku
>>2265589
I'm sorry, but no. Kyouko belongs with Yui and there is no other way of looking at it. Ayano can be Kyouko's (or vice versa) passing fancy for a while, but ultimately Yui/Kyouko is embedded in Natural Law.
Ayano doesn't know shit about Kyouko: they only went to the movies like twice together and otherwise they have hardly ever interacted in any meaningful way. Ayano's attraction to Kyouko is a childish infatuation with an ideal based on extremely limited knowledge and experience (getting beaten by someone in exams is not a reason to fall in love).
Likewise Kyouko acts significantly more reserved with Ayano than she does, say, with Yui, also because she doesn't really know her. She may like her a little, but I don't see Kyouko looking at Ayano as anything more than a friend.
Ayano has never seen Kyouko get angry or depressed, nor has she ever been with Kyouko in an actual high stress situation or any other situation that leads to solid bonding (all of which Yui has exhaustive experience with). All it takes is for Ayano to catch a few glimpses of the actual Kyouko for her infatuation to begin crumbling fast.
I believe Kyouko perceives this somewhat which is why she holds herself back a little with Ayano and acts a little "cooler' than usual.
Ayano's tsundere personality doesn't help her here. Tsundere works in scenarios like Toradora (not yuri, I know), where the pair actually lives together, or in an incest scenario, or at least when they're forced to be in each other's proximity for a significant amount of time, like in the same class or in the same club. Kyouko has much more obvious alternatives to Ayano here.
>>2265589
>>2265646
Yui has been with Kyouko on a daily basis for ages: Kyouko cannot imagine life without Yui (cf. Kyouko's reaction to the very mention of the idea that Yui could leave the club), and has made innumerable rather forward sexual hints at Yui (bath scene, "Yui, pay attention to me" scene, "We're all alone at night" scene). Kyouko subsists to a significant degree on food that Yui makes for her (I can't think of a more intimate anime concept than that) and stays over at Yui's house all the time. They joke about her living there.
Kyouko's sexual hints at Ayano? 0. Kyouko has been to Ayano's house once, or was it the other way round? Don't remember, nothing of note happened.
Yui and Kyouko know each other to the finest minutiae of their characters and accept, tolerate and forgive every fault and transgression (Yui does at least).
From an aesthetic point of view, the tsukkomi-boke Yui/Kyouko pairing is still better. One of Kyouko's most unique and intriguing features as a spontaneous sanguine-choleric is her masochism, which contrasts well with her initiative-taking, dominant organising side. Yui, on the other hand, otherwise inclined towards a tomboyish, independent mode of self-expression, is forced to assume the nurturing feminine role when Kyouko fucks up. As a natural phlegmatic/sanguine, she is also often forced to show a more choleric side when Kyouko, governed by her masochism, provokes Yui to punish her.
All this means that we see the personalities of the two girls blossom quite fully into a rather rich bouquet of contrasting attributes and modes of interaction within this pairing.
>>2265589
>>2265647
>>2265646
Kyouko/Ayano doesn't do much for developing Ayano's character: she's still going to be the feminine/indecisive/tsundere girl. Kyouko does get an interesting development of her "cooler", more masculine side which is admittedly extremely appealing in its own right due to the contrast with her otherwise extremely puerile and effeminate personality, but overall the pairing doesn't bring out as much and is unbalanced.
Also from a purely physical aspect long-hair x long-hair isn't as interesting as long-hair x short hair. Yellow/purple is a good combo, I concede, but blonde/brunette is a classic in its own right.
Overall Kyouko/Ayano is overrated and doesn't work as well as you think it does.
Yui/Kyouko is Law.
>>2265700
Touche.
But I still contend that longer-form analytical explications are beneficial in terms of exploring and fostering a deeper understanding of yuri and what makes it work.
I am not content with simply accepting Namori's preferences, asserted as they are, as an explanation for why pairing x is better than pairing y. These preferences show themselves even more clearly in the way the characters are written and in their interactions, which is what I prefer to delve into.
>>2265711
Ultimately it all doesn't matter because the Yurus are stuck in an infinite time loop that won't let them progress past the year and deepen their relationships from more-than-friends to lovers, regardless of the ship.
>>2265784
But wait, didn't they move forward one year from season 1 to season 2?
>>2265789
No, they repeated the same year.
There is only one OTP, and it's name is Ayano x Yui.
>>2265889
its
damnit.
>>2265789
OK, maybe it was from season 2 to 3, but Akari definitely started out in year 1, and she's now in year 2.
>>2265944
She's still in year 1. Rise the 3rd year is still around.
>>2265944
They don't change year, even though the seasons change. It's something they acknowledge and make meta jokes about.
>>2265700
>>2258840
>Chitose surrounded by sheep
>Sheep represent dreams
>Chitose is always dreaming about Ayano
>Thats why Ayano is a sheep
>She is literaly her dream girl
WHY NO ONE TOLD ME THIS
>>2266008
Which points in particular?
I'm not sure I follow.
>>2265889
I need to know where this image came from.
>>2265652
>>2265647
>>2265646
I agree on all points, autistic or not
>>2266121
Akari has also done almost everything Yui does in your walls of text.
Akari has also been with Kyouko all her life and has seen all her facets, she has also been there for her in all kind of high stress situations that could lead to solid bonding. There is no reason to think Akari and Kyouko don't know each other to the finest minutiae of their characters.
Kyouko may not live without Yui but it is pretty clear in all the flashbacks that life without Akari did not have much meaning for them. Kyouko was stagnant without Akari. Yes, Yui was there for her but they still spend most of their time doing nothing and waiting for Akari to come, club activities only started properly when Akari transferred. I mean, club activities is still doing nothing but you get my point.
And don't get me started with accepting, tolerating and forgiving every fault and transgression. Akari is a fucking saint.
There is also an interesting contrast in character going on for them, Kyouko was a sweet innocent girl but now is pretending to be cool and outgoing whereas Akari is a sweet and innocent girl now but we know she used to be cool and outgoing. In fact it seems Akari was the alpha bitch in their group back in the day and in a way she still is the cornerstone of the group now. Akari is more than capable of being nurturing and mature to Kyouko while also providing leeway to her more dominant side. These two share a very interesting, yet unexplored, dynamic. Its true Kyouko shares more screentime with Yui but that could be because Akari gets little screentime as it is, it does not necessarily reflect the place she holds in Kyouko's life.
They also are a long-hair x short hair combo. Vanilla and chocolate may be a classic but I like strawberries more than chocolate.
There may not be as much sexual tension between the two but Akari is not ready for lewds yet so it is fine.
YuixAyano is a far more cute pairing anyway.
I am totally in love with their school uniform.
Absolutely the most suave school clothing I have seen in any series.
Short sleeved white sailor shirt with black lapels over a crimson gown. Red/white/black = most sophisticated color combination.
That red gown thing especially is just the fucking bomb. I can't get enough of how elegant and stylish it looks.
What is it, even? A gown? A robe? Where did it come from? Is it the legacy of some Catholic missionary activity in the pre-Meiji days? Because it reminds me of a Catholic cardinal's soutane, which is a wild as fuck fashion choice for middle school girls in Japan. But holy shit does it look good on them.
The plain, common and quotidian sailor-fuku just contrasts so well with it.
>>2266652
>There is no reason to think Akari and Kyouko don't know each other to the finest minutiae of their characters.
Yes, there is: Akari has no presence, therefore nobody notices her or the "minutiae" of her character very much. I'm not sure when the change from "alpha bitch" (as you so gracefully phrased it) to "invisible nobody" happened, but I'm guessing it's somewhere around the time of Kyouko's personality change.
Mind you, I love Akari, and I think she deserves the best her world has to offer, but alas, paraphrasing Scripture: "everyone carries their own cross". Kyouko especially is hugely indebted to Akari, but I don't see her recognising that fact to its full extent any time soon (as much as we like to think the best of the Yuru girls).
>And don't get me started with accepting, tolerating and forgiving every fault and transgression. Akari is a fucking saint.
Yes, Akari is a saint. Not so sure about Kyouko (although I think she's an angel). Also, Akari doesn't really have a lot of faults and transgressions. Her one flaw is lacking flaws. Lack of flaws = lack of opportunity for development.
>There is also an interesting contrast in character going on for them, Kyouko was a sweet innocent girl but now is pretending to be cool and outgoing whereas Akari is a sweet and innocent girl now but we know she used to be cool and outgoing.
Not really the same "contrast" I had in mind. You're comparing their traits in the past vs their traits now. The traits of their past are quite irrelevant in terms of current pairings. Unless you're saying that an Akari/Kyouko couple would somehow bring out those old personality traits within them and allow those traits to coexist and find expression alongside their current ones. But I'm not sure if and how that would happen.
As for being nurturing to Kyouko: well, yes, that's part of her basic character: it doesn't do much for exploring other, hidden facets of her personality (if any).
>people not realizing the beauty of Kyouko/Ayano
I feel sorry for you.
>>2266652
>>2266698
What do you mean by Kyouko being "stagnant" without Akari?
>Yes, Yui was there for her but they still spend most of their time doing nothing and waiting for Akari to come, club activities only started properly when Akari transferred.
Yes, this is true. But I'm wondering what role Akari plays in those club activities? Is she necessary as a backdrop, arbiter, neutral third party or some sort of feedback mechanism? Or is she actually as fully engaged with the other two girls as they are with each other? Perhaps she's just a catalyst rather than an active ingredient, so to speak?
>There is also an interesting contrast in character going on for them, Kyouko was a sweet innocent girl but now is pretending to be cool and outgoing.
This is an interesting idea. Why do you think Kyouko is pretending to be the way she is now? You don't think her personality actually changed in any significant way? She certainly seems to be much more active and willing to take initiative. These traits produce actual results (such as her doujinshi circle, I mean she even makes some money off it - I just realised she's actually the most financially independent of them all), which is more than you would expect from pretend behaviour.
>They also are a long-hair x short hair combo. Vanilla and chocolate may be a classic but I like strawberries more than chocolate.
Agreed. Strawberry/vanilla is better than vanilla/chocolate. Pink/Yellow is an excellent combo.
>These two share a very interesting, yet unexplored, dynamic.
I've already mentioned what I think of the Kyouko/Akari dynamic.
If anything, I'm a proponent of Akari/Chinatsu. I think that pairing holds much more potential than the Kyouko one. Case in point: the only time we see other sides to Akari's personality (emotionally distraught rape victim + concussed sex-fiend) is with Chinatsu, but that's a topic for another post.
>>2266704
>>2266698
>Akari has no presence, therefore nobody notices her or the "minutiae" of her character
I disagree
>>2266715
Lets compromise.
>>2266722
Chinatsu stole Akari's first kiss. She saw her in the most vulnerable, stressed state of her life.
When asked about what Akari was like by her sister, Chinatsu could only manage: ".. A good girl, I guess?"
Does that conjure an image of knowing someone very well?
>>2266728
No, Chinatsu doesn't know Akari. She barely started realizing that Akari has likes and wants of her own very recently.
Sakurako on the other hand can speak volumes about Akari and is always observing her.
>>2266728
>using a scene from early season 1
>>2266662
I'm so happy to see someone else appreciate the girls' uniform.
It's simple but sophisticated, entirely original (in terms of anime school uniforms, at the very least), and very fashionable, on top of being somewhere between cute and attractive.
I'd like to know the origin/inspiration as well.
>>2258992
I thought Akari wasn't
>>2266817
Let's go crazy then.
>>2266824
That wasn't me.
I'd settle for that compromise. I did not expect to like it as much as I did.
>>2266821
Well she hasn't exactly shown herself to be particularly heterosexual.
>>2266830
when exactly did she or the show's creators admit to Akira being gay?
>>2266837
>Akira
By the fact that she hangs out with her gay friends all the time and attends their intimate little sleepover parties?
>>2266843
And imagines them all as part of her harem.
>>2266851
Oh yeah.
How could I forget that little detail.
>>2266714
>I'm a proponent of Akari/Chinatsu.
>but that's a topic for another post.
I like your logic in these posts, nee-san. Mind explaining your reasoning for this ship?
I've been trying to jump onto it because I want best girl Akarin to be happy, but I'm never sure who to pair her with.
>>2266896
Why not best girl?
>>2266896
I'd like to see the Yoshikawa and Akaza sisters have a wild foursome.
>>2266919
It's a cardinal sin to disrupt the unity of SakuHima. There's a ring in Yuri Hell for that.
>>2266924
>Tomoko focusing on pleasing Akane
>Akane focusing on pleasing Akari
>Akari gently loving Chinatsu
>Chinatsu also gently loving Akari
>Akane giving attention to Tomoko as well
It'd be a beautiful sight
>>2266935
You know it would just turn into everyone abusing Akari.
>>2267325
no bully!
>>2267333
Can we bully Kyouko please?
She's into hardcore S&M anyway.
>>2267334
Kyouko is such bully bait. She brings out my sadist side.
>>2267334
>>2267349
No! I don't want to make her actually cry, or be sad. I want to tickle her, step on her, hold her down and bite her shoulders, drag her by one ankle, leave love bites on her neck and throat, handle her roughly.
>>2267350
>drag her by one ankle
I'm pretty much on board with the rest of the post, but what
>>2267371
Yeah, sorry, I was just writing down whatever came to mind, and that one doesn't make a lot of sense now I think about it.
>>2267334
As long as it's done by mature women who've agreed to foot her ComuKet expenses in exchange for services.
>>2267334
Chinatsu pls
>>2266896
>Mind explaining your reasoning for this ship?
Sorry this is pretty late.
Akari is extremely averse to any sort of conflict or tension, anything that challenges a harmonious status quo. Her standard response is avoidance/denial of anything reminiscent of that. Pairing her with any other girl wouldn't lead to any sort of interesting change in her: she'd dodge any attempt at romantic interaction and do her utmost to keep things platonic. Akari wants to establish and affirm herself more, but her love for peace and harmony prevents her from making any changes in herself: she will only change under an unavoidable and persistent compulsive force. In order to resolve her inner conflict and bring out her own dormant aspects she needs someone with provocative and vexing behaviour, and an intense energy to match. Moreover, that behavior has to be focused specifically at Akari. That's why Kyouko, as wild as she is, is not a good match here, because her energy is dispersed and not contained to one object of focus: Akari could duck Kyouko's attention quite easily. Kyouko needs constant stimulation and feedback to stay engaged, otherwise she gets bored and moves to something else.
>>2268955
>>2266896
If Akari is the most pure and naive character in the cast, then Chinatsu is the closest thing to her opposite. She's egotistical and has no qualms about causing discomfort to others to achieve her goals. She's also extremely perceptive, and her obsession with Yui shows that she has the capability for prolonged and intense concentration on a single person, which would nullify Akari's penchant for erasing her presence. She would be the only one capable of maintaining constant emotional and psychological pressure on Akari that would force her to engage those dormant aspects of herself in response. If Chinatsu turns to Akari as an object of infatuation and behaves in her usual way, the resulting interaction would be very stressful for Akari initially. But Akari is like black tea: she needs a higher temperature "steeping" to bring out the full palette of her personality (remember Rozen Maiden?)
>>2268961
>>2266896
Chinatsu herself has an unresolved conflict going on within: she likes imagining herself as innocent and cute, but employs a lot of cynicsm and Machiavellian methods in trying to support that image. She seems to be aware and self-conscious about this to an extent: she internally often expresses fear of scaring away Yui with her actions. Chinatsu wants to be feminine; she's attracted to more masculine, serious figures like Yui. But she will be domineering and forceful in pursuing her aims (when getting a practice kiss with Akari).
In my opinion one of her main goals is to find a synthesis or resolution between her calculating, domineering, egotistical side and her feminine, childlike side, and I believe she can find an answer to that in a developed Akari. Assuming Akari is finally forced to engage her more assertive qualities and finds a healthy and consequential response to Chinatsu's advances while keeping her placidity and kindness, the latter should find inspiration in that. Chinatsu I think is prone to idealising qualities she notices and admires in the person she's obsessed with, and would end up placing a lot of faith and trust in Akari. The reason why only Akari works here is precisely because of her saintly capacity for forgiveness and acceptance. I don't think Chinatsu would trust anyone else with a full reveal of her darkest facets (not even Yui).
>>2268962
>>2266896
The problem with this ship is that it needs a catalyst for the reaction to get going: something has to jump-start a connection between the two, most likely some sort of prior transformation in one of the girls: Chinatsu wouldn't be attracted to the feminine and passive Akari, and Akari can't offer Chinatsu much without the other's attention and pressure. The first change would probably have to be in Akari (I can't imagine Chinatsu suddenly changing her preferences - she's not fickle by any means). Akari would have to undergo some sort of emotional crisis and ensuing transformation in order to draw Chinatsu's attention. Even better if this crisis comes as a result of Chinatsu's direct actions involving Akari. Example: Chinatsu thoughtlessly hurts her in a major way, and then feels compelled to seek forgiveness while Akari deals with her emotions and tries to rectify the situation. However, once the ship gets going I expect it'd be a soul-stirringly beautiful sight:
Chinatsu would provide the raw emotional fuel for the relationship, and Akari, as a natural diplomat and mediator, would learn how to defuse/diffuse, channel and transform Chinatsu's intense emotions for the benefit and pleasure of both. Akari's capacity for accepting and dealing with Chinatsu's powerful and impulsive feelings would serve to deepen Chinatsu's admiration. In turn Akari would learn to appreciate Chinatsu's rich and fiery emotional world and perhaps awaken some of that vigour within herself.
Chinatsu would teach Akari passion and courage; Akari would show Chinatsu genuine warmth and amicability while helping her reconcile with her darker side.
Basically one of the best ships in my opinion. A lot of heavy, tumultuous drama in the beginning too, if you're into that.
>>2267350
>No! I don't want to make her actually cry, or be sad.
You know, part of me doesn't either, but part of me is having enormous trouble resisting the temptation of the hauntingly soul-stirring sight of Kyouko just bawling her eyes out in misery.And then coming back for more.
>>2268964
d/a
Meanwhile my reasoning is 'they look cute together'
Seriously though, that's an impressive write up. I do still have a place in my heart for a little Sakurako/Akari before they end up with their respective OTP belles as well though.
>>2268988
> 'they look cute together'
That they do.
Someone mentioned that Sakurako notices Akari and knows her traits more than any other girl does, or something along those lines.
But I've only seen the anime; I assume that's in the manga.
What do you like specifically about Akari/Sakurako, from an aesthetic point of view?
>>2268994
>But I've only seen the anime; I assume that's in the manga.
I think you just forgot.
>>2269017
Any moments in particular you could point to?
>>2268994
I think some of the Sakurako noticing Akari scenes might come up in the anime as well, but it's perhaps less noticeable among the zaniness than it stands out in the short manga chapters. It's really less aesthetic about Akari/Sakurako and more so that I like how their personalities complement each other. Sakurako is probably the only Yuru that notices and appreciates Akari early on, before Namori slowly dropped that aspect of Akari's character, and Akari brings out some really nice aspects of Sakurako that we don't really see in her interacting with anyone except I think Hanako on a few occasions. She still messes with her, but she's also helpful and appreciative of her and there's a lovely chapter where they get locked in a closet and she's so determined to comfort Akari even though you can see that she's just as stressed out and upset.
I know that Sakurako's arrested development regarding Himawari is a bedrock of their tsuntsun relationship, but because of that it makes me imagine Sakurako exploring her sexuality a little with Akari because they're so comfortable together and Akari's always so nice, before she's brave enough to enter uncharted waters with Himawari.
It is of course all moot considering that the Yurus are in a time loop anyway though.
>>2269023
And one of my favourite parts of the chapter was also how Akari threw herself into Chinatsu's arms when they're finally released.
>>2269026
Sakurako's little moment with Himawari feels more cute.
>>2269033
Akari's my favourite, anon, there's nothing I can do to help it
>>2268994
>But I've only seen the anime
Highly recommended that you rectify this, the recent manga chapters are super good and outshine most of the anime for me. It's one of the few cases where I think that the visual jokes and comedic timing might work better in comic format than animated, though I do hope the show gets more seasons.
Many people feel that season 3 wasn't as funny as the first two, and I can certainly see that, but I feel as far as the manga is concerned its only gotten better over the years. Namori has come to rely less on repeating the same gags and now relies more on character based humor and unique interactions among the cast, and I feel this is an improvement.
The repeating gags were funny for awhile, but there's only so many times you can reuse them before they become stale, and I feel that Namori timed it pretty well in moving on when she did.
In regards to the Akari/Chinatsu ship, I believe that most of the groundwork is already there between the two. Chinatsu is closer to Akari than she is to any of the other characters. Even if Chinatsu would like to believe that she's the closest to Yui their relationship is too skin deep and artificial to be considered really close.
With Akari, however, Chinatsu is completely herself and they both seem to accept all the positive and negative qualities of each other, and it's clear that that they both value their friendship with each other a lot.
Considering that Chinatsu had a homo erotic dream about Akari in one of the chapters that wasn't animated it could be that Chinatsu is kind of already in love with Akari, but is so set in her own convictions to being in a fairy tale love with Yui that she isn't capable of realizing it.
We just need that catalyst.
>>2268964
>>2269023
>one wants to pair the sweetest, most pure girl in the world with yuru griffith because of a fetish
>the other one wants two good girls to be happy together because of how supportive they are, how they bring the best in each other when they are together and how their relationship would make them mature into better people.
Really makes you think
>>2269382
>one wants to pair the sweetest, most pure girl in the world with yuru griffith because of a fetish
Actually, I believe my reasoning was more related to this
>how their relationship would make them mature into better people.
rather than any sort of "fetish". I'm not even sure what fetish you're referring to. I was just drawing up the most realistic scenario that would work, based on the information I know.
But if >>2269382 is correct:
>Chinatsu is closer to Akari than she is to any of the other characters.
>With Akari, however, Chinatsu is completely herself and they both seem to accept all the positive and negative qualities of each other, and it's clear that that they both value their friendship with each other a lot.
then I'm just really out of touch with the characters at their current point, but then so are you.
Also
>the other one wants two good girls to be happy together because of how supportive they are, how they bring the best in each other when they are together.
Based on >>2269023 's description, maybe this is true with regards to Sakurako, but I don't see how that sort of situation helps Akari mature or brings out the best in her: she just depends on Sakurako to comfort her. So "bringing out the best in each other" isn't entirely accurate. Maybe "Akari brings out fresh aspects in Sakurako's personality".
I'm looking for a ship where both characters get significant development and contribute equally.
>She still messes with her, but she's also helpful and appreciative of her and there's a lovely chapter where they get locked in a closet and she's so determined to comfort Akari even though you can see that she's just as stressed out and upset.
But I admit this sounds extremely adorable, and quite promising.
>>2269320
>Considering that Chinatsu had a homo erotic dream about Akari in one of the chapters that wasn't animated it could be that Chinatsu is kind of already in love with Akari
Well that makes things much easier. Although I'm interested to know how Namori actually justifies Chinatsu's newfound attraction to Akari. In my analysis I couldn't really find a realistic explanation for that, and I was having doubts whether the ship would even work as I surmised.
>>2269023
> I like how their personalities complement each other.
That's precisely what I mean under the term "aesthetic" anon. For me it's an intellectual and emotional pleasure/aesthetic to observe how 2 personalities interact (in a yuri relationship especially).
>>2269451
I've never seen Akari cum that hard before.
>>2268955
>>2268961
>>2268962
>>2268964
The original nee-san who asked for this here.
Definitely well thought out, and I can absolutely see the appeal in the pair. I guess my only remaining issue is one you yourself bring up:
>The problem with this ship is that it needs a catalyst for the reaction to get going: something has to jump-start a connection between the two, most likely some sort of prior transformation in one of the girls: Chinatsu wouldn't be attracted to the feminine and passive Akari, and Akari can't offer Chinatsu much without the other's attention and pressure.
This is simply something we haven't seen in the anime or manga, as far as I can tell, and fanart can only go so far into showing it. I haven't even seen fics yet that can do thisI will take recs for Akari/Chinatsu fics, if anyone's got any.
I do want to explore Akari/Chinatsu more, however. I can feel secure in shipping my favorite yuru with Chintatsu now.
>>2269454
Yuru Yuri is notoriously missing in ahegao content.
>>2269382
In fairness, I actually want both.
>>2269431
It can go a long way to bolster ones confidence just to get some recognition and affirmation, and even though it's played for a joke, having no presence and being ignored clearly hits Akari where it hurts. I honestly never found those jokes very funny for the most part and I was extremely glad when Namori moved away from them. A more confident Akari can therefore become a more outgoing Akari, and the development builds from there. Although I think the manga has been moving subtly in that direction anyway. There's a discernable difference in the characters if you go straight from say chapter 5 to 105, but you don't notice it much as you're reading them.
What I've always been curious about is how Akari goes from the anti-bully ranger to middle-school Akari.A dark part of me wonders if Akane had a hand in it.
>>2269436
You should seriously read at least the most recent chapters that haven't been animated. I'm not going to spoil the dream chapter for you, but all I can say is that it makes perfect sense in Yuru-verse.
I'd also probably be a bit more circumspect about using the word aesthetic personally in this context, but to each their own.
>>2269547
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/love_1
This is probably my favourite interpretation of how AkaChina could happen (although it implies a pretty slow burn) and I think it's in keeping with both the existing characterisation of the characters and the tone of the manga. I don't think a catalyst necessarily has to be something big or shocking. In my own experience, the things that have probably changed me the most is a lot of time of just being around different people and slowly growing. I adore all this artist's work of them really.I also have my own headcanons about them getting together as a couple after Goyac's doujins too though and I really wish he'd make more of them
>>2269574
Very, very good.
>>2269617
>I don't think a catalyst necessarily has to be something big or shocking. In my own experience, the things that have probably changed me the most is a lot of time of just being around different people and slowly growing.
That's a sound point, and when I come to think of it, I believe my own experience attests to that idea too.
That's a beautifully drawn doujin by they way. Definitely a scenario I wouldn't have thought of, but surprisingly believable. Getting outright rejected by Yui would definitely work as a catalyst that could shift Chinatsu's perception in this way. (Not sure I like Akari taking Akane's hairstyle though.) Also I'm not sure why you think the burn would be slow here, unless you're referring to the process of the Yurus beginning to see each other in a romantic light in general, but I think that's implied in a description of any ship.
Haven't heard of Goyac. Any recommendations by him?
>>2269596
>A more confident Akari can therefore become a more outgoing Akari, and the development builds from there.
Yeah, I agree, I can absolutely see how that would work and appreciate the appeal.
Although that leaves the question of what Akari could offer Sakurako once she becomes more confident and doesn't need Sakurako's older-sister-like assurance and support any more.
I can see Sakurako opening up to Akari about her own insecurities and weaknesses (particularly regarding Himawari), and the roles being reversed for a while (Akari becoming more motherly and therapeutic for Sakurako) before Sakurako sets out on her journey on USS HimaSaku.
I'm now totally on board with a temporary Saku/Aka pairing. Perhaps even as a prelude to Aka/Chiina.
Now I'm off to think about the merits of Aya/Chitose...
>>2269743
Purimomo Goyac is a porn artist that has done several Yuru Yuri works.
Secret Flowers is a series about Himawari and Sakurako that is currently up to 10 parts.
He also did a story revolving around Akari and Chinatsu that has 3 parts to it.
Both of these stories are technically still ongoing, but Goyac doesn't stick to a very good work schedule and tends to start other stories from yuri anime before finishing previous ones.
He also has an ongoing Non Non Biyori work that has 3 parts, and last I heard he's currently working on a New Game doujin, so who can say if he'll ever finish the Akari/Chinatsu one.
>>2269743
Yeah, I meant that there's quite a timeskip between Chinatsu getting rejected in presumably their first year of middle school and her finally expressing interest in Akari in their final year of high school, though it seems like Akari's liked Chinatsu for at least a little while.
Goyac primarily does really cute lewd yuri and he's done a bunch of stuff for Yuru Yuri. I've kind of lost interest in Secret Flowers myself, but his Akari/Chinatsu doujins are wonderful. They're all on Dynasty if you want to check them out.
>>2269773
>Although that leaves the question of what Akari could offer Sakurako once she becomes more confident and doesn't need Sakurako's older-sister-like assurance and support any more.
Yeah, I do see it as being a transitory relationship for the most part, with them both moving on to people who are better suited for them in the long run, but like, that's just how life is a lot of the time. I am of course aware that some people are vehemently opposed to anything resembling real life being associated with their cgdct animu. I also feel like Akari is possibly the only person Sakurako could fool around with without Himawari bearing a life long grudge against them. She's just too good of a girl.
>>2269813
>Goyac primarily does really cute lewd yuri and he's done a bunch of stuff for Yuru Yuri. I've kind of lost interest in Secret Flowers myself, but his Akari/Chinatsu doujins are wonderful.
Yes, I checked them out , and oh my god, the Aka/Chiina ones are adorable and just some of the most heartwarming stuff I've ever seen. The art is inconsistent and lacking, imo, but he makes up for it with the direction, I feel.
>Akari being completely direct and open with her emotions.
> Akari hugging Chiina tight and overflowing with love.
>Chinatsu unable to get the words "I love you out" to Akari.
>Chinatsu revealing how she's aroused too to calm Akari down.
Just wow. I think I'm beginning to see why Akari might be best girl.
I think I agree with you about the Saku/Hima ones being less interesting. I checked one of them out and although it has its moments, the dynamic doesn't really extend far past the running gags we're all used to, so it feels kind of stale. Don't think I'll go through all those installments.
>I am of course aware that some people are vehemently opposed to anything resembling real life being associated with their cgdct animu.
I empathise with the sentiment somewhat. I don't agree with Miyazaki that "anime has strayed" or that anime is bad now because creators aren't taking as much inspiration from real life any more. First of all, I don't have much experience with Ghibli anime, but based on what I remember and have seen, his own characters are quite idealised themselves and aren't exactly a naturalistic portrayal of human behaviour and traits. It's not quite "The Wire".
Animation is a medium that allows us to model scenarios that cannot occur in real life and explore our most unrealistic fantasies, or at least test the limits of what we perceive to be credible and believable depictions of life.
But that's just a digressive rant. I don't have anything against the fantasy of Yurus growing up and maturing through relationships
(in doujins)
>>2270625
>Just wow. I think I'm beginning to see why Akari might be best girl.
Akari a best because she's the most endearing character I've ever seen.
She's just so great. I'm going to have to check these Goyac doujins out if they're as great as you guys say
>>2269786
>He also did a story revolving around Akari and Chinatsu that has 3 parts to it.
I only found two, plus 1 about tooth-brushing which also includes Yui/Kyouko.
>>2270636
The tooth-brushing one is the other one, it seems to come inbetween the other two.
>Looking for AkaChina works because this thread has convinced me to love the pair
>Almost every work is based on a move from Akari being a "practice partner" to Chinatsu realizing she's in love.
On the one hand it really is a great premise, especially because it's based in canon and I'm sure that the end result of one of them gaining feelings for the other is entirely possible.
On the other hand, there's such a lack of any other premise that it's a little disheartening. As a fic writer I almost feel like I should try to find a way around this, but I'm at a bit of a loss.
What the fuck happened.
Since when do you autistic fucks ever spout something coherent, let alone something over 1000 characters.
Now I have reading to do and it's your fault.
>>2269023
The main problem with AkariXSakurako is the fact that Sakurako doesn't fancy Akari at all.
Sakurako is actually very nice; but her sexual frustration makes her act aggressively towards Himawari, while she treats Akari like everyone else at school; and although that side of Sakurako is less shown, you can see it when Sakurako and Kyouko go to the claw game, how she interacts with the rest of the Student council and with Yui. She does tease Akari, but so does everyone who isn't Chitose, Tomoko, Ayano, Hanako and Himawari.
Imagine, instead of Akari and Sakurako who get trapped in the closest, it was Sakurako and Himawari: Sakurako would be flustered for the entire duration and there would be a large amount of sexual tension between them. Which there wasn't with Akari and Sakurako.
>>2269320
> but I feel as far as the manga is concerned its only gotten better over the years.
Definitely. So if any Bakkin people are here, concentrate on the current issuesand release more.
>>2271684
But I don't imagine it to be sexual attraction based, I imagine it to be based off the mutual affection they hold for one another and the relative comfort in one another's company. That's why it's not a long term thing either. Sexual attraction is what makes Himawari intimidating, but Akari is a safe outlet to explore her sexuality. (Just like what Chinatsu did, in fact. Did they practice kissing because Chinatsu really wanted to kiss Akari? No, she did it because she knew Akari was the least likely to protest and the most likely to forgive her. Sakurako is equally impulsive, but significantly less calculating.)
Maybe I'll write a fic about it sometime.
>>2271742
I think it is worth mentioning that Akari is not completely oblivious. She has tried to explore her sexuality in the past, the only reason she hasn't is because her friends thought she was not ready.
Sakurako may be the only character that trust and respects her enough to let her freely handle mature subjects.
Like, despite Sakurako having a more dominant personality I could totally see her giving Akari total control to do as she pleases.
>>2271755
>She has tried to explore her sexuality in the past, the only reason she hasn't is because her friends thought she was not ready.
What? When?
>>2271759
Off the top of my head, that time she asked Chitose about her daydreaming.
I know the "you'll understand when you are older" joke has been used a couple of times but I can't remember precisely when.
>>2271784
>I know the "you'll understand when you are older" joke has been used a couple of times but I can't remember precisely when.
Yeah, but that's hardly an "exploration of sexuality". It would help at least to have a faint intuitive grasp of what those daydreams are about in the first place. Otherwise we're just dealing with regular curiosity.
>>2271944
I agree. All this talk about Akari and Sakurako exploring their sexuality together sounds like a huge reach and a personal fantasy of that anon.
>>2271978
Yuru Yuri has already been established as being in a time loop - literally all significant character growth is huge reach and a personal fantasy of anon(s).
Which doesn't mean it isn't fun to shitpost about.
>>2271684
>Sakurako is actually very nice; but her sexual frustration makes her act aggressively towards Himawari.
Didn't think I'd hear the phrase "sexual frustration" used in regard to a yryr character.
>Imagine, instead of Akari and Sakurako who get trapped in the closest, it was Sakurako and Himawari: Sakurako would be flustered for the entire duration and there would be a large amount of sexual tension between them
.
I'd love to hear someone versed and knowledgeable to conduct a Jungian or Lacanian psychoanalysis of YRYR (particularly the flower pair). Perhaps someone could pay Zizek to do it.
I remember watching one of those late 80s erotica films as a young teen. The main premise consisted of a psychotherapist introducing various patients/cases to the audience (all women), then the film showing a re-enactment of a sexual fantasy that a certain subject experienced, and then the psychoanalyst giving her verdict and interpretation of the Freudian elements which shaped the thematic nature of that particular fantasy.
I remember one of those scenes was that of a woman of petite stature with small breasts who kept having persistent lesbian fantasies and dreams involving a tall, well-shaped woman with an enormous bust. She didn't know who this tall woman was but she kept appearing in the exact same form to her. The fantasy was that they were in a sauna together alone, and the subject was enthralled by the tall woman's breasts and was compelled to touch and feel them.
The psychoanalyst determined that the taller woman was actually the patient's own ideal version of herself constructed in her own mind by her insecurities, and that through the imagined sexual union with this taller ideal, the subject was able to merge with a perfect, flawless image of herself and experience a moment of cathartic self-acceptance.
The psychoanalyst, I believe, also happened to mention this was a relatively common cause of womens' lesbian fantasies.
>>2272007
>Didn't think I'd hear the phrase "sexual frustration" used in regard to a yryr character.
I dunno, Chinatsu is pretty obviously sexually frustrated.
>>2272007
So, transposing this to the Hima/Saku situation, we could come to the conclusion that from Sakurako's point of view Himawari happens to be an embodiment of Sakurako's personal ideal, or, if I'm using the Jungian concept correctly, the imagined result of her own "individuation" and self-comprehension/acceptance.
Sakurako's tsun-tsun attitude towards Himawari could be viewed in the context of a metaphorical parallel within which Sakurako denies not only her own true feelings towards Himawari the individual, but more importantly her feelings regarding herself, her insecurities and fears (the resolution of all of which is embodied in Himawari the symbol). It shows Sakurako's denial and fear of recognising and confronting her true self, Himawari being a constant and frustratingly unavoidable reminder of this issue.
Sakurako's abrupt and frequent changes in attitude towards Himawari could be explained by Sakurako's perception of Himawari oscillating between Himawari-friend and Himawari-symbol.
I'm also interested in what Saku could signify for Hima in the psychoanalytic sense. It's clear that Himawari trusts Sakurako with her insecurities way more, and in a way even depends on Sakurako for reassurance, so I'm not sure there is any symbolic connection here.
>>2271991
>literally all significant character growth is huge reach
Yes, but just because we're missing real progressive character growth, that doesn't mean there isn't an implied instantaneous momentum in their relationships.They're not actually developing anywhere, but we can still accurately project the continuation and tendencies of that development beyond the time loop based on the information we're given.
>>2271684
>>2272008
Yeah, I forgot about that. Then there's Chitose as well.
Do you think there's any sexual tension/frustration between Yui/Kyouko?
>>2272020
>Sakurako's tsun-tsun attitude towards Himawari could be viewed in the context of a metaphorical parallel within which Sakurako denies not only her own true feelings towards Himawari the individual, but more importantly her feelings regarding herself, her insecurities and fears (the resolution of all of which is embodied in Himawari the symbol). It shows Sakurako's denial and fear of recognising and confronting her true self, Himawari being a constant and frustratingly unavoidable reminder of this issue.
>Sakurako's abrupt and frequent changes in attitude towards Himawari could be explained by Sakurako's perception of Himawari oscillating between Himawari-friend and Himawari-symbol.
I don't know how or why, but I think you're on to something.
In depth analysis like this are fantastic. I'd love to see your perception in this sense on the other pairs.
>>2272007
>Perhaps someone could pay Zizek to do it.
I'd pay good money to see this
>>2272025
>Do you think there's any sexual tension/frustration between Yui/Kyouko?
I support the ship, but I don't believe there's any sexual frustration between the two.
Kyouko is a free spirit to a high degree. She does what she wants, when she wants, and goes all out. There are countless examples of this. Yui tends to be both victim and arbiter in these cases, but even under her "supervision" Kyouko tends to do what she wants. It's only natural that she would be similar in a sexual situation; that is, given any appropriate situation I suppose Kyouko would attempt (and probably get) to have sex with Yui. Kyouko also doesn't tend to stop Yui from doing what she wants.
On Yui's side, she is generally Kyouko's "stop" button. She allows or forbids Kyouko from doing what she wants if it's something "bad" or disruptive, but is also the girl's main emotional support system and highest recipient of trust. One would have to assume that Yui would be understanding of Kyouko's needs sexually just as she is with Kyouko's needs emotionally, and could respond appropriately. Similarly, were she the one to want sex, I don't think Kyouko would deny her in the slightest.
>>2271742
>Just like what Chinatsu did, in fact. Did they practice kissing because Chinatsu really wanted to kiss Akari?
Chinatsu's psyche is a pretty dark and mysterious chasm, anon. I'm really not sure there's a definite answer to what exactly she wanted with Akari. Akari knows Chinatsu can be "scary", as she notes herself several times, but I think she's not even close to realising just how arcane the territory of her mind is.
The emotional dynamic between the two is like watching a video of a baby playing with a tiger: Chinatsu seems like she could absolutely destroy Akari emotionally at any moment, but takes care to be relatively gentle towards her, because something in Akari is holding her interest. A bit like Hisoka and Gon in HxH perhaps.
Or maybe it would be more accurate to re-iterate what I've said before about the couple: Chinatsu's conscious side is quite far removed from her subconscious shadow, and the relationship between the two is precarious and ill-defined. Akari offers a stark contrast to that shadow and helps shed some light on it, which perhaps instills a measure of hope and faith in Chinatsu.
On the other hand Akari's unbridled and bottomless optimism has also never been tested to its limits, and could turn out to be the source of a surprising level of psychological resilience in Akari.
So it's like casting an exceptionally brilliant but also tiny sparkle of light
into a restless ocean of undulating darkness, and then watching it persevere until the storm calms and the skies clear.
>>2272127
Which is really interesting and all, but we do also have to consider that the most distressing things likely to happen in Yuru Yuri are on par with getting locked in a closet for a couple of hours.
>>2272139
Have you ever been in a fandom, nee-san? Looking deeply into things even where the source hasn't, or posturing the reasons and rationalities of characters (or discussing their futures), or a million other not-found-in-canon things are all part of it.
No need to discourage it.
>>2272085
>In depth analysis like this are fantastic. I'd love to see your perception in this sense on the other pairs.
Well, HimaSaku I think is easier than the other pairs precisely because of how much a caricature of well-established tropes and archetypes it is, and archetypes are pretty much ready-made for psychoanalysis, as I understand.
I think the next most obvious pair to approach in this sense would be Ayano/Chitose, but I have no idea were to start with it, even.
As for Kyouko/Ayano, personally, Ayano's tsun-dere behaviour feels exaggerated and forced to me, so right now I don't see any merit in tackling that.
I guess I just don't get Ayano. I don't know what anons see in her. Maybe someone could enlighten me.
>>2272139
>the most distressing things likely to happen in Yuru Yuri are on par with getting locked in a closet for a couple of hours.
well, there's the early Akarin abuse, for one, which was pretty severe.
Then there's the risk of dying in an explosion.
>>2272149
>I guess I just don't get Ayano. I don't know what anons see in her
I just feel bad for characters that get shit on a lot.
>>2272150
So Akari must be your favorite, then.
>>2272127
>So it's like casting an exceptionally brilliant but also tiny sparkle of light into a restless ocean of undulating darkness, and then watching it persevere until the storm calms and the skies clear.
A good description; I can see where you're coming from.
>>2272154
She is indeed!
>>2272157
Mine as well. Just the qt-est
>>2272164
Theory-anon, who would you pair with Chizuru?
Assuming she doesn't die from dehydration when Chitose and Ayano finally seal the deal.
>>2272020
Himawari and Sakurako were very close and loving as children, and it's never stated canonically how they're relationship deteriorated into what we see today, but I do believe that Sakurako's tsundere relationship with Himawari can be pretty easily linked to her own insecurities.
Sakurako is the middle child between two sisters that are much more intelligent and socially inclined than she is. I think that Hanako and Nadeshiko both love Sakurako, and don't actually mean any harm, but even if it's in jest it can't feel good to be treated with disdain all the time and be referred to as the disappointing sibling.
So when Sakurako's crybaby childhood friend, who always made Sakurako feel special by being dependent on her, starts developing into an independent woman, who is also more intelligent and responsible than she is, it must have made Sakurako feel pretty bad.
It doesn't help the situation that they're now going through puberty and Himawari is noticeably developing in all of the ways that Sakurako noticeably isn't.
Of course, Sakurako not being a very introspective individual chooses to blame all of her aggravations and insecurities on the most visible thing there, Himawari's bountiful chest.
That Sakurako is also sexually attracted to Himawari's developing body, and looking at her gives Sakurako weird feelings is the icing on the cake
As for Himawari's side, she probably never wanted their relationship to become this, but couldn't help retaliating to Sakurako's hostility. She definitely seems more self-aware that she's in love with Sakurako.
>>2272276
Maybe Himawari should have had some fucking consideration before she went and turned into an oppai-monster all by herself.Actually, Himawari's insecurities about her body and Sakurako's growing appreciation for it are some of my favourite aspects of Secret Flowers, but I've reached the end of my tether with how they keep getting interrupted before any significant progress is made.
>>2272276
>it's never stated canonically
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/six_colors_of_flowers
It should be canon.
>but couldn't help retaliating to Sakurako's hostility.
Sakurako and Himawari are the only ones with character development. Himawari started off as aggressive as Sakurako, but slowly became nicer. Judging by Sakurako's understanding, that Himawari is normally mean to her, makes it quite obvious that it was fairly recent; or Sakurako has short term memory loss when the time skips happen.
>who always made Sakurako feel special by being dependent on her
This chapter shows a bit and so does 54, but Himawari seems to be the one Sakurako has always depended on.She was very justified to cry over being the husband. I would have as well.
It is hard to not be emotionally volatile when; whenever you look at your friend, your eyes keep staring at her breasts, which in turn makes your mind and body feel funny and your heart starts beating very quickly. In those situations it is hard to work out whether you should hit her or kiss her. Have faith that she'll work it out in the end.
Im sad that there is barely any fucking Chitose in this. It's like nobody fucking appreciates this cutie.
>>2280146
That's because the pics are from Chitose's POV.
>>2280152
I need Cute Chitose Pictures. She's so fucking cute I just want to fucking look at her cute face all day.
>>2280146
Being the Ishmael to an unstable tsundere Ahab like Ayano can't be easy, in terms of getting-into-the-spotlight time
>>2280170
Chitose is my spirit animal.
>>2256878
>>2280919
Oomuro-ke anime when?
I must know who is she sleeping with.
The thought that the author might be undecided or may never tell for kicks bothers me.
>>2281286
Miho.