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>>2183850
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>>2183851
>>2183850
Ewwww, fatty.
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>>2183852
Don't talk about Mei like that
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So Sombra's nails seem retractable, confirmed lesbian?
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>>2183921
Confirmed hardlight if nothing else.
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>>2183867
>Pharah's derp eye

kek
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>>2183930
what do you expect from Symmetra shippers. They have shit taste, and they draw like shit.
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>>2183923
>hardlight
whats that
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>>2183940
What Symmetra uses. If you don't want to look too deep, it's light that can physically interact with the world.
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>>2183940
Those light bridges from Portal.
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>>2183581
under-ignore user on tumblr
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjNeOXWdVaA
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>>2183935
Fuck off. If anything they're doing her disservice by drawing her with Pharah.
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>>2183858
Whose OC is this?
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>>2184049
(I'm taking the bait.)
It's Pre-Talon Widowmaker.

For some reason, people seem to enjoy MercyMaker...
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>>2184049
Your mom's.
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>>2184055
Mercy: so cute... she is younger version of ou.

Hana: Everyone wore those costumes at that times. I made it by myself.

Mercy: Can you do this again for this Halloween? you're gonna be so cute.

Hana: Um... Maybe I'll do it if you give me ma~ny sweet stuffs.

Mercy: sweet stuffs, i can give you right now.

Hana: what?

(Kiss)

Mercy: why, not enough?

Hana: ... stop joking...
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>>2184077
ou -you
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>>2184077
Thank you, anon!
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>>2183852
>>2183854
Mei isn't even fat like that. Tumblr just can't deal with that fact.
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>>2184054
Truly Mercy is so godly you can only really ship her with herself.
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>>2184087
She is thicc.
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>>2184102
That's the bulkiest Hana I've seen up until now. And I hope I never have to again.
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>>2184104
Soldier76 is taking too much space in this pic.
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>>2184098
(mind)

Hana: (Oh, it's Tracer.)

Tracer: Hello, Ms, D. va! Nice to meet you!!

Hana:(her hairstyle is cute), (it's like puppy.)

Hana: (hairsty..) (No, no. Hello. Nice to meet you too.) Your hairstyle is so cute!!

Tracer: What?
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>>2184107
I thought a "meet the parents" situation might be appropiate enough for /u/.
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>>2184114
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>>2184104
Tracer: Where is my kiddo? I need to talk.

Morrison: Hana is sleeping.

Morrison: and I won't give Hana to a stray cat like you..!

Tracer: Jack, How could you say something like that to your old friend? It's vey disappointing!!

Hana: What are you talking about without me?!?
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i think the reason why i could not load images is south korean government has banned the site image came from.
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>>2184052
It wasn't accusatory. The non-Mercy doesn't resemble any of the other female cast. Or at least, I'm blind.
>>2184053
So Mercy is making out with your mom? Cool.
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>>2184126
>Or at least, I'm blind
There, you've got your answer.
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>>2184102
I wonder how dark tracer will respond to this
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>>2184138
I am more concerned about Widomaker I mean Sombra has the purple highlights and she is a quick one like a certain brit
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>>2184152

Well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd-MB9DZT9U
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>>2184155
I don't get whether Sombra is trying to delete Tracer or have her way with her.
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>>2183844
>SombrArya is a thing

Does that mean MeiVA is going to get more love?
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>>2184161
Nice joke.
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Zarya/Mei is eternal.
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>>2184136
MORE
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>>2184170
This all we got so far
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>>2184159
A but then B
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>>2184159
She's trying to take Widow's place as Tracer's "rival".

First you bully, then you sex.
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>>2184165
Fuck you

One day you'll see the error of your ways!
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>>2184159
Well considering Sombra's ability wouldn't she be like the most dangerous person to Tracer?
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>>2184178
yeah she shuts down her blink and her rewind. Basically making Sombra the best anti-flank to defend healers and also a good offensive flank.
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>>2184180
I was thinking lore wise she could turn of her chrono devise and make her not exist again
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>>2184182
oh well, yeah there's that too. In game you're pretty much doing that except without Tracer vanishing from our timeline.
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>>2184180
>>2184182
http://archiveofourown.org/works/8472397
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People failing to realize how pure and beautiful Amaricest can be is very upsetting.
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>>2184185
>>2184182
>tfw no tracer/sombra smut with that premise yet

I hope someone delivers but I'm not holding out my breath.
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>>2184185
The missing accents bug me.
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>>2174422
>>2179109
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>>2184186
I love it
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>>2184203
You and me, both
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>>2177165
>>2179109
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>>2184029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4NyMhQ6bjA
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Great dynamics already.
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>>2184220
I dont know why but the thought of best dad 76 makes me feel comfy. I'd kind of like to see a comic of him making pairings.
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>>2184240
No thanks.
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>>2184243
>Purist fag
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>>2184220
Thank you anon! Such an adorable comic.

Will you do the other ones on the previous thread? Because I'm currently on it. (Doing the Widowtracers)
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>>2184270
I've seriously slacked on working on comics, but I was going to do all the remaining ones in >>2156532 and >>2165149

I'll leave the previous thread to you, but tell me if you're working in some of the previous threads so we don't do the same ones.
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>>2184265
there's a million comics out there featuring the guys.

If you want fun gag comics, go to the OW reddit for that.
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>>2184306
No thanks.
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>>2184318
Then shut the fuck up about your daddy Soldier76 boner.
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Sombra is out on PTR now, but good luck getting in, there's a queue of 30000 players trying to get in
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>>2184379
>Blizzard hyped up Sombra so much everybody would want to try her out
>With just a week between comp seasons, there will be an influx of players using this new hero they don't know how to play in season 3
It's Ana all over again.
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>>2184240
Dad 76 will not let his daughters be taken
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>>2184185
Delicioous
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>>2184185
SO it begins
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>there are still no sombra/mother russia fics
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>>2184464
Come oonnnnn, I'll exchange an art commish or whatever for Sombra x Mother Russia.
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>>2184468
Please keep your filthy taco hacker away from us.

Sincerely, Mother Russia.
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>>2184476
Too late her salsa covered hands are all over Katya
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>>2184477
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>>2184478
Salsa all over her titties
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>>2184479
You mean her nose.
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>>2184480
No. Sombra is pouring salsa on her and eating it with tortilla chips
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>>2184478
They'll be all over you soon enough Aleks
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>>2184481
That sounds unhygienic.
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>>2184483
It tends to be, it's why foodplay isn't used a lot.
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>>2184481
Ahahaha damn I like tortilla chips. I really like tortilla chips.

Hey I'm serious, any talented yuri-writer out there?
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>>2184492
>The way they crunch
>The way they dip
>I really like tortilla chips

Fuck Mother Russia!
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>>2184495
>Fuck Mother Russia!

Oh she intends to
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>>2184497
You stop this heresy right now.
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>>2184517
Bueno
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>>2184517
What's wrong with her breasts?
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>>2184546
The ropes.
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>>2184550
That and they're poorly drawn in general.
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sighs wistfully. when will I see art of Widowmaker and Mercy
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>>2184635
When you stop acting like this is the place to act dumb.
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http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/357169156#top
thoughts?
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>>2184663
hoping it's either Pharah or Sombra. I would die if it was Pharmercy confirmed but the head writer is a Genji shipper so that won't ever happen.

I wouldn't be surprised though if they just do some fujioshi fanservice and reveal it's McCree.
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>>2184663
Next time use

>>>/v/357169156

And as for thoughts, we already knew they were going to do a reveal, it was just a matter of when and who. personally I suspect it'll be Hanzo, Mei or Lucio.
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>>2184663
>>2184667
>>2184669
It's gonna be Jack or Reyes and it's going to be revealed in First Strike. If November anon is right, that is.
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Why do you guys call Katya, "Putina"?

plz explain.
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>>2184676
Since fucking when?
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>>2184676
Come on!
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>>2184676
female version of Putin is my guess. But I thought she was just the owner of Volskaya industries not leader of Russia, even if she's leading the tech
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>>2184669
Hanzo would be bad, yakuza expy and all. Mei's a safe choice same with Lucio.
>>2184663
Can we please not repeat this?
>>2184676
Look at the last thread. I know that's probably hard for you but the answer is obvious.
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>Putina
Go back to playing My Girlfriend is the President
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>>2184680
>>2184682

I'm sorry. I assumed it was Spanish slang like "puta" for Sombra to make fun of Katya.
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>>2184663
A dude will be made gay and a chick made bi is my guess.
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>>2184682
what do you mean
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>>2184663

Why a "reveal"?

Just let it casually be part of the lore
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>>2184698
I thought they would reveal it in a comic that comes out soon and not make a special announcenent about it. Of course one doesn't exclude the other
And people are already guessing we (well not we per se) might get something in First Strike.
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>>2184698
That doesn't get the "progressive" bonus. They have to make a show of it because otherwise they'd be treating LBGT people like normal people instead of things to include for "inclusiveness" or "diversity".

I wish they'd just released the heroes and had their orientations casually mentioned in their backstory or interactions with others, instead of making a big show of it. Feels dumb.
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>>2184722

It's not even about the whole gay thing

Announcement of an announcement is always fucking dumb. It's just worse when it's "we gon' reveal a homo soon guys!!!"
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can't wait for the ships to sink

everyone who wanted canon orientations, fuck you, you asked for the upcoming lolocaust
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>>2184745
Just because they announce one character doesn't negate any other ships, you know?
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>>2184745
I think it's safe to assume they've always had canon orientations anon, Blizzard's just now getting around to revealing some of them, maybe. Unless you were one of the people who wanted every girl in the game to be hard gay I don't see why the idea of some of them being straight would bother you
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>>2184766
>I think it's safe to assume they've always had canon orientations
Chu himself said that in fact. Of course that does spell bad news seeing who he prefers as a "random ship" since he knows the character's orientation of course.
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>>2184771
>queer

Why not just say gay or homosexual
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>>2184777
Dunno, isn't queer used in some English speaking countries over gay?
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>>2184777
Because they don't mean the same thing.
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>>2184777
>>2184780
Queer is a catchall term for LGBTWTFBBQ and Co.
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>>2184663
as long as they don't reaveal Mercy or so was born a fucking dude, all is good.

I would literally hang myself if that happens.
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>>2184829
You and 90% of the fandom.
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Not exactly the preview of the thread but does anybody else think Mexican Skrillex's Cyberpunk skin looks like it borrowed a fair amount from Gunnm/Battle Angel Alita's designs for the Panzerkunst users?
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Just played some of the PTR, Sombra's pretty fun and not nearly as OP as people thought she might be. Health kits need to be counter hackable though.
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>>2184852
I've felt the same way about Ana's grenade.
>enemy grenade denies healing
>friendly grenade doesn't reverse the blocked healing status

Since they haven't implemented the above, I doubt they'll implement counter hacking.
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>similar play style
>similar playful personalities
>steals Tracer's accelerator to teleport without stress
>keeps mocking and bullying her everytime she uses it
>tracer dislikes her and calls her a thief in ptr

Why did they give Tracer a new girl rival? Wasn't Widowmaker enough?
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>>2184871
>Tracer and Widow have two count 'em two shorts where they fight
>Sombra's never even mentioned Overwatch outside of 'Jane Doe's' medical records, never mind our favorite cinnamon roll
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>>2184871
To make Widow jealous of course and have a love triangle with Tracer snap dab in the middle of it stupidly unaware.
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>>2184871
>rival

I doubt Tracer sees Sombra as a "rival". She's more antagonized by Tracer than seen as an equal to compare herself to.

Sombra is more of a support DPS than a true flanker anyway. Tracer's ability to burst damage and make multikills far superceeds Sombra's.
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>>2184829
i don't want this.

but god do i want the nuclear disaster it would bring.
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>>2184852
That she can't hack Genji's shit is rough.
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>>2184663
Whatever they say there's no way I'll ever believe Tracer is straight so I don't really care.

>>2184829
It would be fun if they revealed Genji as Transomnic though

>>2184698
>>2184722
>>2184730

You do realize they keep talking about this because it's people on events that keep asking about this? They don't just randomly go on social media or interviews and brag about being progressive and having homosexualsin their games out on their own.
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>>2184916
What do you mean she can't hack Genji?
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>>2184926
>transomnic
That would probably get him even more chicks if we look at those two Omnics scoring bitches.
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>>2184929
Can't hack his ult, he can still double jump after the fact.
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>>2184929
Can't hack his ult
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>>2184916
His ult isn't "digital", so I don't know why you would assume she could hack it. She can't hack Hanzo's ult, either.

>>2184931
More likely than not his ninja acrobatics are purely mechanical and don't depend on any kind of hackable signal.
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>>2184926
I know they're responding to people asking about it, but the only reason they're asking is because Blizzard has made it a big secret who the gay characters are and whipped up their "reveal" to get progressive headlines. Let's be honest, they'll announce two, maybe three people are gay or less likely bi, and that's fine in and of itself. The shitstorm will come from all the people they don't mention, because they'll be presumed straight, correctly or not.

I dunno, I guess I just want to get to the point where having gay characters isn't seen as selling or marketing point, it's just normal.
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>>2184959
Sombra's hacking isn't dependent on abilities being digital or not, the dev's said she can disable anything McCree's flashbang could already stop and nothing that it couldn't, like say Mei's ult drone, which you'd expect she could stop based purely on her "hacking" premises but in reality she can only stop her from using it in the first place. If Mei gets it out then Sombra can't do shit about it.

Honestly right now she's basically a more team support oriented version of Tracer or Genji, whose only job is to be highly mobile and kill/harass people. Sombra's health kit hacks and Ult are much better for enabling a push or breaking a siege.
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>>2184970
>but the only reason they're asking is because Blizzard has made it a big secret who the gay characters are and whipped up their "reveal" to get progressive headlines

No? First time anything about this was said last year on Blizzcon when someone asked if there are gay characters. They said yes but that they want stuff like that to be reaveled naturally through the story.
There was no good opportunity for them story wise to get on this topic so far. They aren't making a huge secret about it and they wouldn't mention there are gays if no one asked. What would you have them do? Refuse to answer the question? Say that no, there arent? Make a tweet announcing the gays?
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>>2184974
So she's basically what they showed her to be in the short.
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>>2184970
they haven't actively done anything to drive hype that i remember.

>>2184930
like the omnic from sombras origins vid? current theory is omnic has boobs
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>>2184991
>they haven't actively done anything to drive hype that i remember.
True. It's only just now that they announced that it would be revealed "soon" that it's a bit more hype behind it.
Still calling that it will just be someone of the original Strike Team that gets revealed to be gay.
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So no one extracted her quotes/dialogues and put them on soundcloud yet? I was curious what are her interactions with Zarya/Widow/Tracer
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>>2184974
>anything McCree's flashbang could already stop and nothing that it couldn't
Well, McCree's flashbang can't disable Genji's ult. If an ulting Genji gets stunned, as soon as the stun wears off he can start slashing again.
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>>2184997
Sombra can't disable Genji's ult either. She can prevent him from starting it, but if his sword is already out then all she can do is disable the dash. Apparently she can't disable the deflect, and Genji can also deflect her hack for some reason, though I have no idea what happens to someone he deflects it towards.
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>>2184999
>deflect her hack
Goddammit. What can't he deflect, the universe? I swear, sooner or later they'll give him the ability to deflect charging Reinhardt.
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>>2184994
There are multiple gays/bis
People should chill and let them do their thing and honestly I find it pretty cringy how half of the replies to whatever they tweet is PLS REVEAL THE GAYS/WHO ARE THE GAY CHARACTERS/MAKE MCHANZO CANON etc

Does the First Strike even have a release date. Paperback was announced for Apr 18, 2017, but digital was only said to be out in November and it's November now but I don't think they even mentioned anything about it on Blizzcon?

>>2184999
>Apparently she can't disable the deflect
>Genji can also deflect her hack

What
She is supposed to block every button ability. And for the second thing literally how. There really must be tons of Genji fags at Blizzard.
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>>2185002
I suspect it's because they reused code from McCree's flashbang for Sombra's hacking. It would be relatively little work to take the stun effect, remove the movement/firing disable, and stick it on Sombra's kit with a new visual effect.

Also, her hack is coded as a projectile ability instead of as a beam. Genji can deflect every projectile in the game, including things like 76's biotic field (It's a projectile for the .2 seconds he throws it to the ground) so I don't think this is favoritism so much as unintentional side effects.

>>2185003
She doesn't block every button ability. Roadhog can still hook for one thing, he can't heal though.
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>>2185005
>he can't heal
Absolutely retarded.
They should pick a direction with her kit and go with it. If she's supposed to be a hacker, make it so her abilities only affect things that can be hacked. This is all over the place.
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>>2184996
There's literally no pre-game interactions that anyone can find, she's just got kill lines and people reacting to her when she dies. So far I've heard Tracer, Reaper and Widow react to her being killed by them.
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>>2185006
If I had to guess, I'd say they probably went with a more generic silence effect because otherwise she'd be a much more situational hard counter to several characters if she only affected "hackable" abilities, like say being able to completely shut down Zenyatta or something. Or it would've been more resource intensive to code in new functions to shut down things outside of the scope of McCree's flashbang. This is getting pretty offtopic for /u/ though so it's that last I'll say about it
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>>2185005
>She doesn't block every button ability. Roadhog can still hook for one thing, he can't heal though.

Are you fucking kidding me right now. I actually dont have words for this
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>>2185007
Oh, I heard someone saying she has interactions with Zarya pre-match
What does these 3 say when they kill her ?
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>>2185012
Reaper says something like "Too smart for your own good".

Tracer calls her a thief.

Not sure about Widow, haven't heard that one yet
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>>2185012
>Widow: Not so smart now.
>Tracer: No one likes a thief.

I can't remember what Reaper says, sorry.
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>>2185023
This wouldn't happen in-game, the dev's said they made a special instance for Mercy and Zenyatta that turns the beam/orb invisible if they're healing a cloaked Sombra.

Cute though
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>>2185014
>>2185016
It doesn't sound like even her "teammates" like her very much
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>>2185027
Just saw a video about this, Mercy's beam and Zarya's barrier show where Sombra is, Zen's orb disappears with her.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ1tkG94nLw

Do you think Sombra looks up to Tracer? Does she just enjoy bullying her?
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>>2185071
the later. which is ok because that's /u/'s fetish.
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>>2185071
Best bitch
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>>2185006
If Sombra could disable "everything", it would make her massively broken. Every game would be decided by her ult alone.
The game doesn't completely align with the story so stop expecting it all to make sense.
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>>2185071
Wow Sombra is a bitch.
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>>2184781
Then stop saying queer
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>>2185091
Took you that long to figure out?
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>>2185085
this pleases me greatly
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>>2185228
Same. And it's not even finished yet. I really love that artist and I would marry her on the spot.
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>>2185236
>>2185228
I'm working on a D.Va/Mercy picture myself. I'd like to finish it tomorrow. Will definitely post it.
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>>2185252
Noice!
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>>2185089
>everything
I want her to disable hackable things. That's not everything. Disabling Roadhog's healing, that's "everything".

>the story
...has nothing to do with it. Genji is a ninja, so his kit is ninja-like. Lucio is a musician, so his kit reflects that. Sombra is a hacker, so she can disable gas inhala- now just wait a minute.
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>>2185302
I chalk it up to the same shit Ana can do with her Friend or Foe syringe bullets: NANOMACHINES, JACK
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Do you need to play Overwatch to understand the characters? The characters are everywhere nowadays and I like the designs but am not into the actual game.
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>>2185308
All of the fan content is complete and utter wank. The in-game interactions are sparse, the canon content is minimal, and Blizzard is incorporating fan depictions into the game.
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>>2185308
Well you should read up some info about the characters and watch the animated shorts (and origins video) released so far to get some idea about what's it all about at least.
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>>2185252
Awesome!
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>>2185308
You don't need to play the game to enjoy the story. Just watch the shorts and origin stories, read the comics and their backstories and look up interactions between the characters.
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>>2185308
The game isn't even canon.
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>>2185493
Oh boy this comment again. Thanks for telling us something that's been known here in more depth since half of us hunted it down and read it.
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>>2185309
>All of the fan content is complete and utter wank.
I've heard of wrong opinions, but this is on a whole new level.
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>>2185554
It's not entirely wrong. Of course a lot of it involves characters that aren't relevant to this thread. Like this whole Reyes being the unwanted suggorate Dad for McRee and Ana they weirdly doting yet stern mother.
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First Strike when. Any theories?
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>>2185676
Definitely not /u/ territory unless the loli and Ana talk to each other.
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>>2185071
Ahorita regreso, cheers love, ehehehe. Wut? Tracer being a bad chick magnet apparently.
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>>2185677
How is it not relevant? It's possible LGBT so it's possible /u/
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>>2185683
Sombra stole the tech for her Translocator from Winston's design for Tracer's Chronal Accelerator. Don't think she has a thing for Tracer, Sombra apparently prefers MILFS
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>>2185685
How is it possible /u/ when Ana is the only relevant female hero showing up?
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>>2185685
There won't be anything /u/ in it. It might have some bones for /y/ but that's about it
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>>2185689
That is a damn shame
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>>2185689
I'm aware amiga, the thing is, Blizzard seem to like Tracer being bullied by purple-clad femme fatales and I ain't even complaining SOMBRA x MOTHER RUSSIA YES
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>>2185685
This isn't /LGBT/
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>>2185781
fukken gross, lad
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>>2185781
I am ok with this
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>>2185788
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>>2185779
Tumblr and its nonsense fetish for making people 10 shades darker.
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>>2185864
>>2185806
>>2185804
>>2185781
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>>2185872
Then get out of here.
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>>2185822
>those chins
I don't get the appeal. I wish I knew how to draw so I could fix those things. It's a shame when you find a decent picture but it has this giant glaring flaw you can't ignore.
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Now they are saying "character", like it's a single one.
I don't know what to believe it.
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>>2185910
*in
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>>2185910
I assume they're walking a fine line between "We need an LBGT character" and "We don't want to have any indications of romance between the actual playable characters" per their earlier statements. The easiest way to do that would be to make the LBGT character someone new, but that would cause a different kind of outcry.
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>>2185910
Believe nothing. It's obvious they are tired of this being brought up and are eager to get it over with.
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>>2185925
Tracer is arguably the least likely to be gay. Since she's the game's "mascot".
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>>2185910
Jack Morrison. Or Hanzo. He makes even more sense.
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>>2185932
Nah, it's gonna be Torbjorn because no one gives a rat's ass about him.
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>>2185920
All they gotta do is put in some piece of backstory in a comic
Please give me a comic about teenage pilot Tracer and her first crush on some older Overwatch female agent

>>2185926
They probably would rather stop being asked about it, but I don't think it's because they hate the topic and feel pressured into adressing it against their will (if that's what you meant).

>>2185929
I don't think that matters too much.
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>>2185934
>I don't think that matters too much.
Oh It matters more than you think.
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>>2185932
>>2185933
Why are you guys like this.
There probably is a male gay but that doesn't mean there won't be lesbians too.
Also no one will make neither dwarf nor gorilla gay.
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>>2185939
It's better to be realistic about it.
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>>2185933
That's precisely why it won't be him. No one would read a comic about him in that context. Gotta be someone people care about. Jack would garner some brownie points for being "progressive" that the "main character" is gay or Hanzo because it's pandering to the bara fandom and he wouldn't be obviously gay because his main schtick is his HONOR and regret.

>They probably would rather stop being asked about it, but I don't think it's because they hate the topic and feel pressured into adressing it against their will (if that's what you meant).
Gotta give probas to them to be able to deal with such an annoying fandom that doesn't get shit even after the third time you tell them.
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>>2185939
>Why are you guys like this.
I'm expecting First Strike to drop the gay bomb one way or another and not a lot of chicks in that one.
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>>2185938
If it was any other company, maybe.
If it was any other type of game (like, her being gay being referenced heavily in story), maybe.
But her or any other character having a huge blush about another female in some supplementary material comic panel or maybe even using the word "love" is something most people won't even care to see.
Speaking about her being the "face" of franchise, she sure hasn't been featured anywhere after Alive.

>>2185941
Realistic is fine, but you are being cynical about it. Realistically they will want to have at least one non stereotypical male and one female and maybe they will make a couple of other chars be like "I swing both ways" or "I don't see labels" or some shit. They won't make it a character no one cares about because they know it would be meaningless.

>>2185944
>Gotta give probas to them to be able to deal with such an annoying fandom that doesn't get shit even after the third time you tell them.
Yeah but to be fair that latest quote was from a Kotaku interview and the interviewer just brought it up because it was a recent topic.
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>>2185911
Am I the only one who can't see the image?
Also the link is - is.4chan.org/etc/etc.jpg
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>>2185952
It shows normally to me but this was the picture https://twitter.com/sakuno2911/status/796349481289560064
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>>2185951
>swing both ways
That's actually what I feel they'll do instead of making someone just gay/lesbian. Its still an LGBT character after all.
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>>2185955
I wouldn't mind it all that much but it would feel like a cop-out. And c'mon nobody takes bisexuals seriously so it won't solve anything. People will continue to beg for a gay character
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>>2185956
Well or let me rephrase that. I feel they'll make a female character bisexual because that is the safest bet due to the gigantic amount of waifufags in the fandom and the outcry from there would probably be bigger than anything tumblr could create.
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>>2185957
I want it to be a female character, as I enjoy /u/, but also because I want to witness the tears of someone who waifus them.
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>>2185955
>>2185956
I wouldn't really mind that (though some purityfags would sure cry). Maybe they'll do something like 'the world 60 years in the future is more open about sexuality so people don't care that much about who they fuck" and just pull a Dragon Age 2

>>2185957
You are overestimating the power of waifufags a bit I think. I really don't think there are that many when it comes to this game (though obviously they exist)
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I really want for Widowmaker to be shown gay after her brainwashing so that idiots can cry about a person being able to be brainwashed to be gay.
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>>2185957
Widowmaker already comes off as bisexual. And she's french. No one would be surprised, all they'd have to do is confirm it or give her a line that alludes to "swinging both ways".
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>>2185959
>I wouldn't really mind that (though some purityfags would sure cry). Maybe they'll do something like 'the world 60 years in the future is more open about sexuality so people don't care that much about who they fuck" and just pull a Dragon Age 2
This is pretty much why I'd wager they'd go more bi that pure gay. Lots of future settings in various PnP RPGs where they run with exactly that.

>You are overestimating the power of waifufags a bit I think. I really don't think there are that many when it comes to this game (though obviously they exist)
I'd also like not to underestimate them.
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>>2185960
Probably not gay but at the moment I'd say she is the closest to being "an LGBT character" that we have.
She says shit like "We have to see other people" after eliminations and that applies to both male and female characters (they could easily code it so she only says it towards males but they didn't)
Her Mercy boost lines are the gayest shit currently in game
Also she flirts/messes with only female characters, on the other hand she doesn't have any even remotely flirty interaction with any male character.
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>>2185676
I just want it to be over so we can move to another graphic novel that hopefully addresses present time which would hold infinitely more potential for lesbian shenanigans
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>>2185968
I'd honestly put that more in the "sexy female antagonist" with a little French seasoning myself. Widow and Ana are currently the least likely to be hard gay to me, Widow had a husband and Ana had... something with whoever Fareeha's father turns out to be. Not saying Widow couldn't swing both ways, but I doubt Ana does. But those are just my opinions. If they wanted to go with a safe established character they'd probably pick Mei or maybe Tracer.
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>>2186013
>Mei
A confirmed openly gay Chinese character? Yeah right.
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>>2186014
Eh, I didn't consider that, you might have a point. I dunno how sensitive the Chinese are about anything besides spooky skeletons. I don't know if Pharah being gay would trigger Egypt, or if anyone would care if she did. Mercy I ruled out because Chu is running the show and won't let that happen. Symettra already has the high-functioning autism so I doubt it'd be her either. Zarya is too damn obvious honestly, they'd get heat about stereotypes.

Who does that leave, Tracer Widow and Sombra?
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>>2186019
You forgot about Hana. But sadly it's obvious we can cross her off the list too.
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>>2186019
Pharah would fluster arabs more than Egypt. Mei pissed off more chinese by being ethical chinese than actual chinese. Hana's possible but it'll be the reverse of what we'd do. Everyone would just ignore it since she's a slut.
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>>2186028
>Everyone would just ignore it since she's a slut
nah they just need to give her a pairing so she looks committed to someone
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>>2186028
>Mei pissed off more chinese by being ethical chinese than actual chinese.
Then they might just make her gay then, not like she'll be popular with the chinks either way.

Honestly the safest bet is Tracer, since the majority of people are shipping her with Widowmaker anyway so it wouldn't really be that much of a difference to the fandom.
Also [insert Simpsons joke about Brits being gay here]
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>>2186037
But doesn't Tracer fall under the "lesbian stereotype" too? Not as much as Zarya, obviously, but still.
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>>2186040
At a certain point there's no avoiding stereotyping in a game where every character is some kind of walking stereotype.
Pharah would be a stereotype because "hurr durr military chick must be a carpet muncher" for example.
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>>2186040
Which stereotypes?
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>>2186013

Mei already covers the fat demographic
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>>2186045
Zarya comes off more as the stereotypical military lesbian if you wanna start splitting hairs, though Pharah falling under that stereotype would probably give her more character than she has now.
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>>2186046
Androgynous lesbian.
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>>2186051
Mei is not fat. When will this meme die?
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>>2186046
Different anon, but I think he means the "butch" stereotype.
Zarya is pretty obvious while Tracer is a bit of a softer type, but still has short hair, ear piercings and no indication of any "girly" characteristics
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>>2186055
Yeah, "butch" for Zarya but >>2186053 for Tracer
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>>2186052
Zarya being in the military is actually second place to her being an athlete, so she's be the athletic /fit/ lesbian. Pharah on the other hand was full time military and is now PMC.
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>>2185968
Gayest shit in the game is Tracer exlaiming "that felt good" after a Widow elimination.

waifufags love Mercy too much for Blizzard to make her gay. Its a shame.
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>>2186063
No, it's not about waifufags when it comes to Mercy, M Chu is the problem
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>>2186063
Doesn't help that at least one of the writers is clearly biased.
Though I don't care nearly enough about Mercy to be sad about that fact.
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>>2185930
Mercy: Hana- are you gonna play with me today?

Hana: ...I'm Go 3.* you goddamn angel.

<In south korea, Go 3 means the third year of highschool curriculum. at the and of Go 3. every korean students were evaluated by the Korean sat. so Hana can't play with Mercy because she has to study.>
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>>2185930
>>2185931
Is Mercy a literal angel or a ghost? Would love to see a story were Angela somehow attaches herself to Hana's spirit and eventually turn human and marry her.
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>>2185910
It's probably Bastion
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>>2186232
A companion ghost in the form of an angel, I'm guessing? I don't know. But it does sound like a pretty interesting idea for a fic. Something like the plot of "Forever Girls".
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>>2186232
Koreans are not seriously drawing comics. We just like shipping.
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>>2186013
>hard gay
Yeah but I never said she sounds hard gay, I think she is most likely to be bisexual going by everything she says. Even if the source of that is a trope of "sexy french antagonist" it doesn't change she keeps flirting with all the girls.
But I really do enjoy the contrast of her character in different shorts. Compare her behaviour in Inflitration and Alive. In Infiltration there's no teasy comments, no smug smirks she's just business and mission, in Alive once Tracer finds her she almost starts acting like she is just having fun. It's kinda cute.

>>2186014
>>2186019
>>2186028
You guys really put too much attention to that "Blizzard doesnt want to trigger X therefore Y is definitely not gay."
Remember when Ana wasnt a thing and people in here vehemently argued Blizzard would never put arabic speaking character in the game to not piss off racists? Well they did. Blizzard really doesn't care.

>>2186040
A bit, but not to such enormous extent as Zarya. With Tracer it's really just the hair.

>>2186234
Bastion is genderless.
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>>2186063
I think that line is supposed to represent her joy at being a heroic person who fights off evildoers rather than any indication of sexual excitement.
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>>2186340
Nah, that's her generic "You got what's coming to ya!" when she eliminates the likes of Roadhog or Reaper.
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So how about that Mei x Symmetra ship?
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>>2186397
I can get into it
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>>2186397
Mei's VA gets around.
I found this video on weibo of her and Tracer's VA https://my.mixtape.moe/vsqxhm.mp4
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>>2186397
>>2186411
She's so adorable. It'd be hilarious if it turned out Mei is the first lgbt character. She was in the original Overwatch program. All the Meihem shippers would probably commit suicide.
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>>2186473
>Meihem

Is that really what they call Mei/Junkrat?
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>>2186489
it's one of many i've seen.
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>>2186411
Holy shit it's so cute how she can't spell "cavalry"
Also Tracer's VA is Tracer irl
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>>2186502
>please make it Mei, Meihem fags almost Pharmacy-cuck tier when it comes to being the fucking worst.
Genji shippers are THE worst by a mile
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>>2186575
I ship Pharmercy and I can't really agree with that. Even on tumblr they are way more low key and rather keep to themselves while it's the Pharmercy crowd that feel the need to shitpost other tags all the time. I can only imagine that it's not that much different anywhere else, hence why I'm mostly keeping to myself in the fandom and only look stuff up here.

And I just know it will be them that will cry the loudest if it gets confirmed that either Phara or Mercy is straight.
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>>2186605
Perhaps the same could be said of all ships.
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>>2186607
Perhaps. But I think the two ships that have the "biggest ego" so to speak are Pharmercy and Widowtracer, the first because of the gigantic popularity the ship enjoys and the latter because it's THE very first Overwatch the fandom came up with.
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>>2186605
Don't have much to say about Genjifags but the Meihem crowd is definitely the worst. Keeps shitting up the Widowtracer tag on regular basis.
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>>2186610
Yeah, they're really obnoxious. If I had a dollar for every post I read comparing their hetshit to Widowtracer and accusing its fans of being hypocritical I could buy an island for /u/ by now.
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>>2186610
>>2186613
I honestly don't see what those two ships have in common. At least I can understand why Pharmercy and Gency fans obviously dislike each other but this? Jeez.
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>>2186605
Really? I'm not sure they do everything you say. I know a bunch of arguments love to shit up that tag because tumblrinas misuse tags like they breath.
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>>2186618
Meihem fans target it specifically because Widow and Tracer don't like each other very much in canon, just like Junkrat and Mei.

They genuinely believe that Meihem gets a lot of hate just because it's a straight pairing, and not because it's built in one of the shittiest tropes in history. That's why they go into the tag to compare the two and imply that Widowtracer is only popular because it's gay, when the two ships are built on way different mechanics.
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>>2186625
Well I don't neccessarily agree, but it's not entirely untrue that being a gay ship definitely helps Widowtracer. I don't think you could really recreate their dynamic with a girl and a guy.
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>>2186625
Eh, they have a point. Gay ships have it easier on tumblr. For example, I don't see people raiding Roadhog x Junkrat posts pointing out that Hog canonically dislikes Junkrat. Don't get me wrong, what they're doing is retarded and far beyond childish, but the complaint itself isn't entirely unreasonable.
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>>2186625
There's some basis for it but they're going to a retarded extreme
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>>2186629
>>2186631
>>2186634

>I don't think you could really recreate their dynamic with a girl and a guy.
You easily could. The "enemies to lovers" trope or "healing the bad guy with love" trope are one the oldest fucking tropes in the history of het romance especially targeted at young girls.

That said there is nothing aside of "vague animosity" that these two ships have in common. Junkrat isnt a cocky rival, there's no mutual teasing, no chemistry between them. Mei just tells him to fuck off.

Regardless the point is they are free to create whatever the fuck they want and if someone gives them shit then they can always block/discuss, coming randomly into other people's tags to act like you are opressed by evil gay overlords is fucking obnoxious.
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>>2186625
I'm probably not going to like the answer but why is it called Meihem and not Meiham? Is Meiham the Mei x Roadhog ship or something?
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>>2186736
Because Junkrat loves to cause mayhem so MEIhem get it? Now can we stop talking about it?
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Any good widowtracer fic besides a few listed in OP? So far the really good ones I've run into:
1. Don't lose the score (series, glass mask is my favorite) by sniperct
2. Shadows of stars by sweetdivision
3. A mongrel, or a pug (lots of crack and lulz) by notantihero
4. Killjoy by (can't remember name of author)
5. London falling (can't remember)

Most others are meh.
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>>2186797
Along Came a Spider
http://archiveofourown.org/works/6957217/navigate

Paralyzed
http://archiveofourown.org/works/7606669/navigate

Half-Life (on hiatus, sadly)
http://archiveofourown.org/works/6801925/navigate
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>>2186797
Glass Mask is so fucking beautiful
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>>2186645
>coming randomly into other people's tags to act like you are opressed by evil gay overlords is fucking obnoxious
Same can be said about doing the same in reverse.
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>>2186613
Please buy us an island, senpai. In return i'll draw you anything you want.

Tumblrinas will find any reason to complain and do mental gynastics to justify their ships...then post it in the WT tag. I've seen Hans/Elsa being compared to WT.
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>>2186797
Arachne en Bleu. Which will never ever update again, by the looks of it.
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>>2186817
>I've seen Hans/Elsa being compared to WT.
Ouch, that stings.

Hmm makes me wonder why Mei ships don't have funny Frozen reference names though. Isn't one of Mei's lines pretty much singing a small part of Let it Go?
Or is that only in the German dub?
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>>2186830
She says "You have to let it go!" as a reference.
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>>2186830
I know there are some, but they're more centered around Mei herself than any of her ships.
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Happy 11/11.
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>>2186929
Damn that blush looks like a really nasty rash
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Rare Japanese comic.
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>>2186411
Cute.
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>>2186939
Aww
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>>2186945
>reaper creepin'

Fucking lost it
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>>2186805
Except the reverse literally doesn't exist. At most you have some general disgust at the idea of hurting Mei this way.
The hetfags for the most part aren't annoyed because someone attacks their shitty ships, they are annoyed because they want fanart, they want fanfics but the fandom they are familiar with isn't interested in giving them that. So they go through some mental gymnastics to victimize themselves and blame everyone around for not bending over backwards to provide them what they want.

>>2186817
>I've seen Hans/Elsa being compared to WT.
I'm trying but I can't think of even a single link between them.
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>>2186975
>I'm trying but I can't think of even a single link between them.
Oh come on. Hero x Villain for one. Don't act like there's zero basis for that comparison. It's still a retarded comparison obviously but don't act like there's no similarity at all.
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>>2186976
Not them, but Ana was the hero. Elsa was the damsel. Did you even watch it?
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>>2186976
>Hero/Villain

If that's all similarity then, no, there is no similarity
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>>2186980
Fine if you wanna be so picky and pretend you don't get the point then "Good Guy" x "Bad Guy".
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>>2186981
Nice logic.
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>>2186982
>>2186983
Nice logic on your part. Every good guy x good guy pairing is similar then?
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>>2186985
No. Just that they do have at the very least that little thing in common. Just like how, for example, "childhood friends" ships have that in common too. What are you getting so buttflustered for anyway?
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>>2186990
Can you stop that thing when you assume anyone who challenges you on your opinion must be "buttflustered"? There is no need to be so defensive.
"Childhood friends" isn't anywhere near as broad of a brush like "hero/villain". Both antagonist and the protagonist can be different people, with different goals, views, values, different dynamic between each other. There is no nuance in "childhood friends". They either are or aren't. But two different pairs of characters put on the opposing side of their respective stories can have two entirely different dynamics.
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>>2186997
Agreed, that's almost like saying that 2 ships are similar because of height difference
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>>2186997
By usual tumblr standards, both WT and Helsa fall under the "abusive, toxic relationship" category so that's another similarity. Plus the appeal of pairing up the good guy with the damaged bad guy in need of redemption and atonement.
Anyway, I'm guessing that's why some people compare the two and complain about one being accepted in a more positive light than the other.
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>>2186997
Oh and I meant Childhood Friends as a trope. There are plenty of nuances and different dynamics to ships rooted in that trope as well.
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>>2186985
>>2186990
>>2186997
>>2186998
>>2186999
>>2187008
Why are people spending so much time arguing over something so trivial and inane?
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>>2187009
I've personally got nothing better to do right now.
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>>2186999
>By usual tumblr standards, both WT and Helsa fall under the "abusive, toxic relationship" category so that's another similarity.

But Hans tried to murder Elsa, manipulated and tried to murder Elsa's sister and take control over her country.
Widow doesn't have any ill willed agenda centered on Tracer, they just sometimes happen to fight when the interests of their respective organizations clash. And all throughout they are presented as equals. Like sure from the perspective of tumblr any "they are mean to each other!" means "toxic!" but logically speaking this doesn't make sense. You could assume with a degree of viability from what you've seen about Hans' character that any relationship he enters could end up toxic but you can't assume a relationship between Widow and anyone would necessarily be toxic.

>Plus the appeal of pairing up the good guy with the damaged bad guy in need of redemption and atonement.
The crucial difference is, Widow doesn't really need atonement or redemption since she is basically a victim herself. And this is what the pairing centers on. Hans decided to do bad shit because he was power thirsty. There's no need to "save" him. He chose his fate. Widow didn't.
If anything if I were to pick a ship that vaguely resembles Hans/Elsa in OW I'd say Hanzo/Genji. Even Hanzo/McCree. Because it basically takes a "good guy" and pairs him up with a guy that murdered his friend out of his own free will. Of course no McHanzo shippers take that angle into consideration though. Or even treat Hanzo as a bad guy most of the time.
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>>2187019
Widowmaker would too try to kill Tracer if she were to ever impose a serious danger to her mission. That's what a cold-hearted assassin does. In the state Widow is now, and if she doesn't get back her emotions, then I don't see how, from a realistic point of view, a relationship with her would be a healthy one since she is incapable of feeling love.
Widowmaker may be a victim but that doesn;t excuse all the bad shit she's done so for her to not be seen as "the bad guy" anymore she would have to atone for her wrong doings and redeem herself. As for Hans, and this is starting to go off topic, but I have to let you know, in case you haven't read A Frozen Heart (which goes into his background and motives quite a bit and shows things from his perspective), he could to some degree be considered a victim of his family and was pressured into the whole "take the kingdom" deal. He might have a taste of power but he didn't go to such lengths all on his own accord.

For the sake of not derailing this argument any longer, I'll say alright, you've made your point, etc. We can stop now.
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>>2187019
To be fair to the McHanzo shippers, we often ignore that Widow and Tracer have tried to kill each other multiple times.

We don't know how bad a guy Hanzo even is, or what Widowmaker does when she isn't on-mission. We make up a bunch of stuff because we have very little to go on officially. Maybe Hanzo is still a fundamentally bad guy, he was certainly all about continuing his clan's legacy until he was forced to attack Genji and even now he's at least willing to entertain the notion that Talon could help his family return to greatness. Maybe Widow just sits in a room somewhere until Talon gives her a new target because she's so broken by the brainwashing that she's essentially become a high-functioning weapon. Until Blizzard decides to tell us what these people get up to outside of fighting each other it's all speculation.
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>>2187040
>Widowmaker would too try to kill Tracer if she were to ever impose a serious danger to her mission

But she did, twice. One time she succeded even.

>In the state Widow is now, and if she doesn't get back her emotions
>she is incapable of feeling love

Her bio states she has no emotions, yet both in game and every story material she displays an array of them, so I'm going to go with what the story shows me.

>Widowmaker may be a victim but that doesn;t excuse all the bad shit she's done so for her to not be seen as "the bad guy" anymore she would have to atone for her wrong doings and redeem herself.

Disagree, though a bit of that depends on how much free will she still has and what kind of person she was in the past.
But even if she was a huge bitch in the past and even if right now she is fine with who she is that doesn't change the fact that she never chose to get kidnapped by a terrorist organization and get turned into a weapon so she will always be above a manipulative sociopathic snake who feels pressured to impress his daddy or whatever but when it comes down to it had a choice and chose wrong. I highly doubt Widow can choose to not carry on with her mission.
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>>2186975
>Except the reverse literally doesn't exist.
There are other gems though. This shit had me laughing.
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>>2187045
>we often ignore that Widow and Tracer have tried to kill each other multiple times.

Honestly I'd acknowledge that as a point if either of them was ever shown in serious danger of dying but all their encounters remind me of Cartoon Network violence.

>We don't know how bad a guy Hanzo even is, or what Widowmaker does when she isn't on-mission.
True, we do need to see more from the perspective of characters. But Hanzo wasn't "forced" to attack Genji. He was told to straighten him up by the elders, not assassinate him, yet the conflict between them escalated so much Genji was left barely alive. At best he is a psycho with extreme anger issues who didn't really meant it (and going by his "woe is me" comments that might be the case). Though he still rejects Genji and Blizz themselves describe him a an arrogant prick who thinks he is better than everyone.
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>>2186834
Ah I see. In the German version she actually sings the official translation to "The cold never bothered me anyway"
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>>2187059
I'm pretty sure this is a joke, regardless by reverse I meant WT/R76 etc shippers going into meihem tag and complaining about their ship.
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>>2187058
>But she did, twice. One time she succeded even.
Uh no she didn't manage to kill Tracer. Yet.

>Her bio states she has no emotions, yet both in game and every story material she displays an array of them, so I'm going to go with what the story shows me.
Love isn't one of those emotions. And a romantic relationship involves love.
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>>2187068
>Uh no she didn't manage to kill Tracer. Yet.
Read it again, anon meant that Tracer seriously imposed Widow's mission twice and one time even succeeded in that.

>Love isn't one of those emotions. And a romantic relationship involves love.
I'm still trying to figure that shit with her out. From one of her lines she can't feel the cold either.
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>>2187072
>From one of her lines she can't feel the cold either
Well it makes sense. Her body's temperature must be super low since her heart rate is almost nonexistent.
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>>2187068
>Uh no she didn't manage to kill Tracer. Yet.
I meant Tracer managing to sabotage her mission, obviously.

>>2187068
>Love isn't one of those emotions. And a romantic relationship involves love.
If she is capable of showing, anger, amusement, bewilderment, concern, pride, annoyance, sadness etc then why are you so sure she isnt capable of producing this one particular emotion? Just because it hasnt been shown yet doesn't mean she can't.
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>>2187075
Everyone knows that Widowmaker's a Nobody, it's all faked on her part.
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>>2187075
>inb4 the you can hear her heart beating when she's near Tracer because Tracer is the only one who makes Widowmaker feel ALIVE
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>>2187076
I never played KH so that reference flies over my head
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>>2187079
Nice but this isn't even about Tracer
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>>2187082
It was about WT in the first place and whether or not a relationship between them could work ina "healthy" way because of Widowmaker's brainwashed condition.
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>>2187084
Right now it was bringing up examples of Widow displaying emotions and arguing that there is no basis to say she wouldn't be able to feel love in an eventual relationship, since if her brain is still capable of producing chemicals associated with other kinds of emotions naturally this one shouldn't be an exception.
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>is the anon that brough up Helsa
>didnt think it would turn into a serious discussion
>woke up to a page worth of debate
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>>2187087
Examples of Widow expressing emotions? Tracer tackles to the ground in Alive; she chuckles. Laughing is an emotional response.

Its also hard not to bring Tracer into any discussion where Widow's emotions are involved because Tracer has been the one to draw the most reaction out of Widow.
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>>2187134
Yeah. You could list a bunch of emotions she's been shown to display both in game and outside.
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>Helsa
Fuck ya'll. Elsanna forever!
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>>2187148
Ive no doubt in my mind everyone in here would be inclined to agree.
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>>2187148
Off-topic but in Frozen 2, Hans will have a redemption arc. Villains ain't bad after all (Like Elphaba in Wicked) There's pretty much hope for Widow having some sort of redemption for herself as well. Though I'm currently okay with Widow being beyond it for now. The game needs the bad guys to spice it up anyway.

>>2187153
Yeah sistah!
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>>2187148
>>2187153
>>2187156

>>2122340
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>>2187141
Which makes me wonder why Blizzard even bothered trying to describe her as "emotionless". Pride at making a clean shot is an emotion. Anger is an emotion. Thrill of the chase is an emotion. There isn't a single piece of OW media that truly displays Widowmaker as an emotionless assassin, except for her short backstory description.
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>>2187161
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>>2187161
As much as I adore Elsanna, I stay away from cartoon threads.
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>>2187162
Because anon, that would make her boring.
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>>2187174
What will? Not having "emotionless" in the description or actually making her emotionless?
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After seeing all the Mom Mercy / Daughter Hana comics, anything even lightly shipping the two makes me diamonds.
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>>2187167
Fuck yeah that elsa
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>>2187179
A lot of people, including Blizzard, usually interpret "emotionless" as "doesn't feel bad about doing bad things" which strictly speaking would be sociopathic behavior instead, instead of "robot-like".
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>>2187192
But that's dumb. It's like interpreting "blind" as "unable to distinguish certain colors", which is a completely different thing.

>>2187184
>_500
Stop that.
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>>2187162
I suspect a lot of that has to do with what plagues many details of OW backstory, there's inconsistency because the whole thing wasn't really well planned.
Just like some things in the Cinematic Trailer are plain contradicted by later story, maybe she was initially planned to be an "emotionless assassin" in the likeness of the Winter Soldier, but then they've seen people's reaction to her and decided to take her character in a different direction.
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>>2187162
>>2187233
To illustrate the point, if you compare the way she behaves in the first cinematic with how she behaves in Alive, it's like she is a completely different person.
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>>2187156
>Though I'm currently okay with Widow being beyond it for now. The game needs the bad guys to spice it up anyway.
I'm one hundred percent prepared for a set up soonish after which Reaper, Widow and Sombra all ditch Talon and team up with OW to fight the actual bad guy Eyeluminatti, since as the latest story piece revealed Talon is just some small fry
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>>2187257
Eyeluminatti are going to be dragons. DRAGONS, mark my word the cyberpunk level corporations were foreshadowing to a technomystical dystopia that OW unintentionally prevents time and time again.
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>>2187257
>Reaper
Highly unlikely. His whole agenda is hunting down OW agents; that the reason he even works with Talon. Unless one of his old comrades performs the ancient act of talk-jutsu and melts his ghostly heart, I don't see him joining the fight for the greater good any time soon.

>Widow
Moderately likely. Unless Talon has some means of controlling her (which is probably the case), she might deem them "boring" and join OW if they make her feel "alive".
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>>2187263
>Dragons
This isn't Shadowr-Oh yeah Dragons are actually a thing in the setting with the whole backstory of the Shimada. Hmm.

>>2187273
Widow is more likely for a Heel-Face turn due to her backstory. Reaper not so much, I guess Jack breaking up with him did that to him.
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>>2187273
Reaper is already half-way from being talked away from being a terrorist by Ana.
As for Widow I don't expect Talon to just let her go but there might be several ways in which the story could go so that she is free from them
Talon gets destroyed
Her mission goes wrong and she is taken in by OW
Something happens to change her perpective and she escapes/rebels against them
Infiltration implies Widow knows Sombra is full of shit and let Katya go, Widow might talk her into/blackmail her into helping her. Although that depends how much Sombra relies on Talon since she doesn't seem like the kind of person to be controlled by a stupid blackmail.
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>>2187284
Either dragons or eldtrich horrors that Talon are being played by. Would fit their whole destabilization mo
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>>2187278
What's going on here
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>>2187296
>Something happens to change her perpective and she escapes/rebels against them
Tracer giving her the meanest cunnilingus in the history of mankind is what'll happen.
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>>2187233
Even their models gone through revisions throughout the shorts. Keep in mind the first cinematic was released around 2014 while Alive 2016. So expect the endless development, discrepancies and such. I don't even think Blizzard is keen with their storytelling.

>>2187234
Well put. I like to think Widow sort of warming up on Tracer through time. Not in the manner we prefer but nonetheless the assassin isn't emotionless as she seems to be.
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>>2187296
>Infiltration
How does it imply that Widow knows Sombra let Katya go? Did I miss something or?
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>>2187305
>I like to think Widow sort of warming up on Tracer through time.
You gotta remember though that chronologically Alive is first, then Numbani

>>2187263
>>2187284
>>2187299
Guys what are 'Dragons', what are you talking about.
I wouldn't rule out some greater paranormal conspiracy as the root of evil in the world of OW being unveiled though. OW's been inspired by superhero stories and you know how they end up having secret societies, ancient aliens, interdimensional travellers etc all over the place.
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>>2187309
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>>2187309
Her facial expressions as she looks through her sniper riffle, the fact Sombra only took out her communicator after greeting Katya. And don't forget Widow has infrasight so she would be able to see through walls what Sombra was doing (though thats not shown explicitly)
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>>2187313
Is that so? According to this one it's the other way around.

http://www.polygon.com/2016/5/24/11722688/overwatch-timeline
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>>2187313
>Guys what are 'Dragons',
I was making a Shadowrun reference that >>2187284 caught. Paranormal things are unlikely considering the yakuza bois dragons are some technobabble shit that the devs hand-waved. However, I wouldn't put it past them to say the Eye is either some amalgamation of the God Programs or one that adapted and escaped being put into sleep and began to watch the world and learn.
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>>2187316
>polygon

In an Atlas News blog post they confirmed that Mondatta died before the museum heist. I think it was the one that was published the day the game was released.
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>>2187315
Looked to me she was displeased that she 'escaped' not that she knows/seen through infrasight. Her aim was also towards Reaper and she was assisting him in taking down the robot-guy.

But hey, could be she knows Sombra is full of shit.
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>>2187313
Literal Dragons. Like the ones that are talked about in the Genji and Hanzo short.

>>2187316
That's horseshit. Alive takes place a few hours after Recall.
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>>2187316
I hate when journos start making half-assed articles without fact checking everything properly.
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>>2187316
>polygon
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>>2187321
I thought it was Alive --->Recall ---> Numbani

Because one of the reasons Winston even wanted to initiate Recall was because of the growing civil unrest and the death of Mondatta was supposed to contribute greatly to it.

But then again I read somewhere (might be on wiki, not sure if it was sourced) that Reaper's and Widow's missions (n Gibraltar and King's Row) were supposed to take place around the same time frame
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>>2187325
Recall takes place right before Alive. When he's watching his computer screen one of the news that shows up is that Mondatta would be doing a speech in Kings Row that night. Also Tracer wouldn't have answered him so cheerfully if she had just watched her idol get shot because of her.
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>>2187318

Thank you anon. To the other anons take a chill pill.
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>>2187325
Sounds about right. It was night in both shorts and Gibraltar and Britain are in the same time zone, right?
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>>2187328
>Also Tracer wouldn't have answered him so cheerfully if she had just watched her idol get shot because of her.
I said I was under the impression there was several weeks/months between Alive and Recall.
But fair enough, I admit I never stopped to analyze his monitors and what's written on them.
Also "because of her"? Come on, she failed to stop his murder but he wasn't shot because of her.
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>>2187333
I know it wasn't her fault, but knowing Tracer, she probably blames herself for it. Mondatta died because she dodged, after all.
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>>2187339
;_;
I hope she doesn't, she had no way of knowing his head and her chronal accelerator are perfectly aligned and she isn't the real target.
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>>2187329
>telling people to chill out when theres only civil discussions
okay, sis

If Recall occured before Alive, it'd explain Tracer's line "trying to crash another party, love?" The previous "party" meaning the attack on Winston/Gibraltar. On the other hand, she could be referring to any other time they've fought but has not shown.

Interestingly, Tracer acts pretty warmly to Widow in the museum heist which is after Mondatta has been shot.
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>>2187339
>>2187345
Gotta admit that was a REALLY great shot of Widowmaker. Kinda pisses me off how they made her miss in Infiltration seeing how she managed to hit a target under way harder conditions. Actually I'd say not even Ana would have managed to hit Mondatta like that.
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>>2187317
>However, I wouldn't put it past them to say the Eye is either some amalgamation of the God Programs or one that adapted and escaped being put into sleep and began to watch the world and learn.

Holy shit i would be so stoked if this happened.
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>>2187349
To be fair to Widow, Tracer, her shot hits Katya's right earring and breaks it in half. That's how close she was to her mark.
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>>2187347
I generally chalk both of those incidences to Blizzard having not fully decided on the timeline until they were already nearly done with the shorts. Also, you could easily just as well say that Tracer's line about crashing a party in Alive is just a reference to the museum heist for the fans and she was breaking the fourth wall a bit. OR, they've fought even before that. The devs stated that Alive was the start of their rivalry, but never said it was the first time they'd met.

>>2187350
>ilerminerty is omnics

I'm down.
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>>2187347
>The previous "party" meaning the attack on Winston/Gibraltar.
But Widow wasn't there and I wouldn't necessarily call the attack on Winston's dark NEET hideout crashing a party
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>>2187347
One of the Widowtracer interactions implies that they've bumped heads on more than one occasion. I mean, Widow has fought Tracer enough to learn how she behaves in battle and calls her predictable.
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>>2186797
>3. a mongrel
Don't expect that fic to be updated anytime soon. Or be finished. She writes very well, but doesn't really finish multi-chaptered stories.
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>>2187352
>The devs stated that Alive was the start of their rivalry, but never said it was the first time they'd met.
When did they say that?
I wish they elaborated on their relationship with each other. Nothing so far explicitly shows they knew each other before, but the scene after Tracer tackles her and asks why she shot Mondatta looks way too personal for her to be some random ass assassin to Tracer she's never seen before.
I wonder if anyone even realizes she was taken and turned. Ana sure didn't
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>>2187360
We don't know. Might be that Ana never had a great relationship with Amelie either way while Tracer could have been friendly enough with her. Ana's "Gerard was a fool to marry someone like you" comes off like she already had her reservations even before he was killed.
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>>2187366
Yup. Their relations must have been awful considering Ana doesn't even try questioning why would Widow join Talon and just goes straight to condemnation
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>>2187360
>When did they say that?

It was some time after the cinematic trailer came out while they were hyping up the animated shorts. I can't find the specific article, however. Sorry.

>>2187369
I hope they expand on that later on. Widowmaker is a key villain for both old and new Overwatch, and Ana at the very least knew Amelie well enough to recognize her through !) a funky talon costume, 2) blue skin, 3) a sniper scope, all within a split second.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjNeOXWdVaA

My sides have left orbit
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>>2187352
>The devs stated that Alive was the start of their rivalry, but never said it was the first time they'd met.

Sauce? I want to be able to source back to something besides "what an oneesama said on /u/".
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>>2187417
Can't wait for how window will try to out do Mercy for christmas. Oh man my wallet can't wait for new skins.
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>>2187474
>window
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>>2187489
>My favorite Overwatch character is Windowmaker!
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>>2187550
>>2187551
'scuse me oneesans, i'll be in my bunk.
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>>2187474
>window
Snorted at that one lol.

>>2187550
>>2187551
*intense wet noises
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>>2187550
>>2187551
YAMETEEEE!
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>>2187417
hole shit...that's fucking awful.
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>>2184155
>>2184226
>>2187417
I actually like these little videos.

>Pharah has artificial limbs

Some things never change.
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>>2187648
I like how Blizzard has officially confirmed more than once now that Fareeha is wearing armor, but this people continue to draw Pharah as a quadruple amputee.
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>>2187651

That shouldn't be surprising, it's not the first time fans have completely ignored a character's design in favour of their own 'headcanons'. They can't handle the fact that they were proven wrong about her being disabled by Blizzard and that the Origin skin shows Fareeha has long, thin limbs and is thin in general, making her completely normal and not the sympathetic amputee they want her to be.
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>>2187759
>tumblr isnt bad gaiz!1!
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>>2187759
Holy shit how can one person fuck up so much and do it all on purpose thinking it's quality art
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>>2187759
thanks for the laugh i needed it
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>>2187759
My sides are gone
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>>2187550
>>2187551
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new thread?
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>>2187857
Stop asking this shit when you should know by now that we don't make a new thread until we hit page 10 or reach image limit. Lurk more.
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>>2187653
Its tumblr. Everyone has to be a triple minority somehow.

Whats infuriating is how the amputeefags argue Pharah's missing limbs. "It shows her dedication to her job and justice," as if there aren't better ways to show it than go completely against canon. Guess you never reason with retards.
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It's funny hearing /u/ complain about somebody ignoring canon.
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>>2187759
>a fat abuelita and a purple transexual walk into a bar
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>>2187759
blackwashing is gross. Like when they make Sombra and Reaper black even though they're latin. Not that there aren't black latinos, but the percentage of black people of Mexican nationality or Mexican decent is friggin miniscule.
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>>2187902
It's really not. Blizzard didn't come out to deny characters being gay/bi like they did with Pharah being an amputee. 3 times.
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On the topic of amputee Pharah... can someone fix this?
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>>2187982
Did they amputate her dick :O. The (not) funny thing is a lot of people can go 'she's originally a trans character and her dick got blown off along with all her appendages!'
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>>2187982
Why bother? It's not that great of a picture
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>>2187986
Just because your dick got blown off doesn't mean you'll suddenly start to want to be the other gender the fuck
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>>2187980
It's /u/ we're talking about. The board that exists solely because its population can ignore the fact that the character is in a heterosexual relationship because that one time six episodes ago she looked funny at another female character, which basically means they banged right then and there.

>>2187982
Sure thing.
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>>2187992
You never know what they think.
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>>2187986
ehh I know some iffy ones have been posted here, but that pic just looks like tribbing/fingering to me
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>>2187994
It's one thing to ignore the hetshit and a whole different thing to ignore that a character does in fact have real arms and legs and is not an amputee.
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>>2187994
Well, this isn't a thread about shipping bitches who are in heterosexual relationships in canon.
And besides, I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen a whole lot.
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>>2188007
No, it's a thread about shipping bitches who barely, if at all, interact with each other. So again, ignoring canon doesn't seem to be that much of a problem.
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>>2188009
What is your point? Are you an amputeefag or something?
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>>2188009
No one can ignore canon if there is no canon so that's false equivalency
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>>2188011
My point is, you don't seem to have a problem with ignoring the canon when it suits your need, but suddenly it's a problem when other people do it. It's amusing.
And no, I'm not an amputeefag. I'm a whenwillthesepeopleshutupaboutamputeefagsfag.

>>2188013
There is canon. There is no /u/ in that canon, as of yet.
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>>2188019
We should post more amputee Pharah
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>>2188024
Go ahead.
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>>2188019
>There is canon. There is no /u/ in that canon, as of yet.
And that means any ship is possible because none of the characters have specified sexuality.
Entirely different from taking a character that is canon straight and ignoring that for the sake of a ship.
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>>2188026
>any ship is possible
Refer to my earlier "bitches who barely, if at all, interact with each other" post. Canonically, half the characters have never even met each other, or if they have, they currently live in different parts of the world.

>none of the characters have specified sexuality
Widow, Ana.
>inb4 bi

>Entirely different from taking a character that is canon straight and ignoring that for the sake of a ship
You still ignore the canon. Whether you ignore it a tiny bit or a not so tiny bit doesn't matter.
Technically, any ship that doesn't correspond to a canonically existing relationship ignores the canon.
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>>2188032
>Canonically, half the characters have never even met each other
And canonically there is nothing saying they can't meet. Unlike Pharah who doesn't have schroedinger's limbs.

>Widow, Ana.
Neither Widow nor Ana have specified sexuality

>>2188032
>You still ignore the canon.
Apparently by your logic anything that isn't canon is ignoring canon, but no, there is still a difference between rewriting canon with something else and making up scenarios that go beyond canon while keeping all the canon information intact.
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>>2188040
>making up scenarios that go beyond canon while keeping all the canon information intact
So why can't somebody make up a scenario where Pharah loses her limbs without /u/ losing their shit?
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>>2188042
Because, you dimwit, most of the people who endorse and spread the amputee Pharah shit are not treating the whole thing as an AU but as a canon fact and they insist on asking the devs about whether Pharah is an amputee or noti at every freakin Q&A. That's the difference.
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>>2188045
Are you from Blizzard? Do you have to answer dumb questions at Q&As? If not, it doesn't concern you. You can voice your complaints to people who do that in their personal blogs; the most people post here are singular pictures with amputated limbs that have no story behind them.
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>>2188042
They can, but the Pharah amputee meme was born from the assumption that she couldnt fit into her suit so when people portrayed her like that they thought Pharah didn't have limbs to begin with and treated that as a fact. That's why some people always get irked about it.
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>>2188042
Oh. Well do as they please then but if you'll post those in here, you're definitely begging for them YOU's which is pretty retarded.
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>Alas another amputee fag showed up
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>>2188049
Singular pictures of artists that are convinced that she is an amputee in canon. When people don't want to see something in someplace, why continue to be a shithead?
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>>2188055
I thought they all died in the great purge?
Blizzcon
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>>2187994
kek

>>2188042
i've been told /vg/ came up with the amputee shit first, probably for fetish reasons, but then the people who want to push shit like >>2187759 got wind of it and latched on. so now the whole thing is tainted with their involvement and desire to destroy the western, non-quadriplegic world. there was also like one faggot that was posting a shitty story like a month ago. kinda left a bad aftertaste.
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>>2188060
Sounds to us that you just find the idea of amputeed pharah canon or not repulsive. All the salt is just building up on that sole thought that people insist it's canon (or not, could also be outdated stuff you're looking at). Chill out. It'll pass.
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>>2188138
>Sounds to us
Who is 'us'?
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>>2188144
the y/u/kuza
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>>2188155
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>>2188156
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>>2188157
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>>2188159
someone stitch them up, i'm too lazy
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I was told the author posted it like that so I made a quick shitty edit, wanna see it?
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>>2188227
I really don't care if you want to see it or not, here is it anyways
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>>2188232
I appreciate it, anon.
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>>2188232
thanks anon
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>>2188419
What's with all these abuelita Tracers? Is this a new tumblr trend?
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>>2187759
hi
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>>2188431
She blinked forward too much and aged prematurely.
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>>2188150
*yak/u/za
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>>2188445
Now I need a fic in which Tracer thinks Widowmaker has a thing for Ana and she forces herself to age up turning into Abuelita Tracer but Widowmaker doesn't recognize her and Ana accidentally falls for Abuelita Tracer and she badically has her gay awakening at 60+ and Abuelita Tracer freaks cause things aren't going to plan and she has no idea what to do anymore
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>>2188458
Are you serious or just for kek's? Reminds me of this one. Some random Brazilian telenovela.
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>>2188431
How is that even abuelita? Lol
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How much would an hour of Tracer's time cost I wonder?
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>>2188444
Why.
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>>2188557
It's priceless; she saves herself for Widow, you sick fuck.
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>>2188557
>Want to like this
>Tracers hip joints are a literal dolls with a seam
>She's somehow managing to avoid rubbing her pussy entirely with that motion

Meh
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>>2184104

I'm not sure if I missed anything
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>>2182498
>>2181884
reupped because spelling mistakes that you can only notice after you share something
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>>2188718
>>2188720
>>2188722
>>2188723
>>2188726
>>2188728
>>2188732

Thank you anon. I should get to work as well.
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Korean anon, could you translate this?
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>>2188742
It's no problem, I'd do more but I failed to save the translations from the older threads before they were deleted.
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>>2188777
Can't you just access the archive for that?
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>>2188784
We have an archive?
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>>2188794
http://archive.loveisover.me/u/

Come on anon, keep it together.
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>>2188797
Nice

Anyone mind if I finish these two posts?
In case someone already started working on them?

http://archive.loveisover.me/u/thread/2165149/#2167763
http://archive.loveisover.me/u/thread/2165149/#2167764
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Hope more artists do something with the age gap.
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>>2188748
>You're bulked up! Get in there!
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She looks like Wallace from Wallace and Gromit
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>>2188910
My face involuntarily conveyed so much disgust that it caused me physical pain.
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>>2188841
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>>2188922
>TFW you're not an athletic brown adolescent discovering her sexuality with an older hot blonde girl.


I wish to be the little Fareeha.
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>>2188944
Who doesn't?
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>>2188968
the ones that wish to be little Hanas.
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>>2188944
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>>2188978
Indeed.
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>>2189099
>>2189115
>>2189122
Uncanny...
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>>2189189
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>>2189190
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>>2188910
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src: https://twitter.com/fhrmrm1/status/798189912222666753

90% of good OW art is Korean. I hope based Korean artists will continue to contribute. Or just more based good artists.
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>>2189384
or Chinese
But yeah.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAkEmhil1Zc
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>>2189526
Not gonna listen to all of this. Summarize the interesting bits.
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>>2189528
>Mockingly says "Cheers, luv" when teleporting
>Also has a countdown line
Those were the only interesting ones I found, rest were voice lines that can be purchased, damage sounds, and game-based stuff
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>>2189561
[speaks in spanish]
[giving birth in spanish]
[is a naca in spanish]
Shrimp that sleeps gets carried by the current
Alejandra's sister/mother/friend?
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>>2189528
6:50
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Korean anon is here. but i need to study for korean SAT. I'll translate other korean comics after i finished my exam.

and Thank you.
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>>2189965
>>>/d/
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>>2189965
Gross, dude
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>>2189968
>>2189982
>waht?
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>>2189968
i think this might be implying a strap-on?

i'm going to just choose to believe it's implying a strap-on.
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>>2189960
Wish you best anon
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>>2188876
>>2190244
did you even try?
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>>2190247
Obviously not.
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Sombra is out on Live now
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>>2190451
And there aren't any new interactions with her, so what's the point?
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>>2190452
>>2190451
she seriously still doesn't have any interactions ?
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>>2190457
I've been playing for a while and I haven't heard anything new. Witch Mercy got loads of new lines, though.
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>Widow buffed
>S76 buffed
Once more I'm wondering why they aren't just removing Pharah from the game the way they are treating her. Holy crap.
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>>2190527
Pharah was also buffed

:^)

I cant wait until they nerf 76 again tho
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>>2190536
>Can now fly longer in the air to give Widow even more time to pick her off, if McMeme doesn't do it first.
What a buff it was.
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>>2190540
This thread isn't really the place for this, but the fact of the matter is that Pharah will always be considered good or bad depending on whether or not the hitscan people are good or bad at the time. She'd need significant work to change that.
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>>2188708
From what i can gather, SFM rigging and the joint deformations are fucked as shit compared to Maya. Shit, even Widow's shoulder blades and elbow are messed up and the bend isn't that much
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>>2190618
Rigging and painting weights ain't an easy task. That's why most SFM are shit, it just too much work to bother.
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>>2190652
In the animation industry that hip joint deformation is not acceptable. And the models are pretty much low polygons/resolution.
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>>2189960
Goodluck anon! 파이팅
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>>2190657
I'm learning Maya and that shit does make me cringe a bit. Doesn't matter in the end, but i know people will encourage this.
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