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Looking for mostly TokoMaru
Others will do though
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>>2182524
Better get that thread of yours started since this sure as shit isn't /r/
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I'll post some shit since I like Toukomaru OP, but it's not gonna be primo material
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Alright, that should take of OP's 4-5 relevant images. Toukomaru best Danganpairing unless this shit ends up going the way they're teasting
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I've heard about this franchise for years but have yet to involve myself in it. Should I watch the anime or just watch let's play of the games?
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The games are definitely better, but if you want the shirt and sweet version the anime isn't bad
They don't have an anime for the second game and Ultra Despair Girls so you'll have to play/watch a playthrough of those two
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>>2182609
Thanks. I'll look at the games first then.
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>>2182602
Don't watch either of the Danganronpa 3 anime.
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>>2182524
I have a question. Anyone thinks TokoMaru is hinted to actually be canon by the last episode of DR3?
I mean look at the way Toko was looking at her >>2182541
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While it's not mindblowing, this game is very entertaining. Great production values, artstyle, and creative cardboard theme.

I'm in love with Kirigiri Kyouko right off the bat. Everything from her design to personality to voice is right up my alley. It's pretty sad that the chance she'll have a girlfriend is tiny. I'm on episode 2 of the first game, and I feel really giddy when the computer genius gave this unsolicited remark. I was like "Damn right! Make her your husbando, so that I can self-insert as you."

How could any girl resist Kirigiri?
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>>2183214
daga otoko da
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>>2183214
>I'm in love with Kirigiri Kyouko right off the bat
Me too anon. She is beautiful, smart and great personality.
I've never felt so sad about a character dying too.
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>>2183214
Also, that girl in the pic is actually a trap. He is a boy. And in the end of DR3 it is implied that she gets with Naegi.
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>>2183297
>And in the end of DR3 it is implied that she gets with Naegi.

Not really. That scene only exists to say "she's alive". Anyway, the anime has so many plothole s compared to the game that can't even be considered canon.
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I'm still salty that DR3 didn't deliver what DR2 strongly hinted at.
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>>2183349
At least we got scenes with these two.
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>>2183303
She sacrificied herself for him though (getting the drag to delay the poison still doesn't count, cause she didn't know if it would actually work)
And that episode was called "You are my reason to die", featuring two already confirmed pairings killing themselves for their loved one.

I never really liked her with Naegi, because he is quite bland character who somehow must be liked because he is mc.
But Kirigiri never showed any romantic interactions with any girl anyway.
I don't fully believe this was remotely enough for them to be called canon, but he was the closest she got to romance I guess.
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>>2183362
>But Kirigiri never showed any romantic interactions with any girl anyway.

She never showed romantic interaction with anyone. In fact, her being in love probably would look out of character, because japanese writer are pretty bad in these kind of things.

O prefer to ignore everything about DR3, because that shit had way too much contradictions of the main plot, even retconning Junko's own nature that I take it as a shitty fanart, rather than a sequel.

DR fanbase is more about shipping than canon couples, anyway. There's a lot of yaoi shippers, so I doubt they would ever make anything canon.
Maybe that's why next game can have a female protagonist.
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>>2183360
At least thanks to this in DR 3 all those who shipped her with naegi got rekted. That ship is now so full of holes it will never sail again.
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>>2183360
Some of those scenes were pretty hot, I will admit.
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Assuming she doesn't, like, die, the new Protag seems like prime /u/ material

Her "Brain Drive" mini-game is her driving a car and picking up girls in her pink corvette
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>>2182962
When they're fighting they instinctively hold hands.

Toko's Byakuya delusions is clearly her overcompensating for her gayness.
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On episode 4 of the first game now. All 3 cases so far are easy to solve. But I commend them for actually making it unpredictable and intricate enough to keep my attention.

Right now Kirigiri is acting suspicious, yet the dumbass protag didn't notice. She's suggesting him bringing the laptop to the secret room so that the bear won't know. But it's the room where MC was attacked before, meaning that room is not safe. Let's see if it's just a plot hole or if Naegi is a serious idiot.

>>2183245
Doesn't bother me since I wasn't shipping them. All I want is and for Kirigiri to behave in a princely fashion towards any girl, and for anyone guy or girl to acknowledge how totally handsome she is.

I swear I could get pregnant just from looking at her.
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>>2184125
Didn't the writers say that if Toko and Komaru had been in the killing game their forbidden action would've been holding each others hands?
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>>2184305
>how totally handsome she is.
I wouldn't call her handsome. She is beautiful in a feminine way imo.
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>>2184402
Pretty sure that was just the Spike Chunsoft PR guy, not the actual writers.
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>>2184489
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Ah nice, the 4th case was the first one where I didn't deduct the criminal before the trial even started. I was so sure Asahina poisoned Sakura as soon as they found out the corpse.

Very moving story this time too, Asahina best girl. The real suicide note and the misunderstanding were too cheesy though. Girl, it shouldn't affect you from wanting to kill all the assholes who bullied your best friend, regardless of her death will.

>>2184408
Handsome is not a masculine adjective. Only cool feminine girls are handsome to me, e.g. Senba Uzuki or Himemiya Chikane. Bulldykes are inherently ugly. Yep, that goes for Tenou Haruka when she isn't in her senshi form too. I don't get people think fags are handsome but whatever.
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I got Kirigiri's title right on the spot, wow. And way back in episode 2 no less.
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>>2182602
Watch Let's Plays then watch the DR3 anime. Watching the first anime is optional.
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>>2183363
Has anyone here read the DR Kirigiri light novel? What do you guys think of Kirigiri/Samidere? Espcecially how she calls her "Onee-sama"
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Finished DR1. The final revelation is cringy to say the least.

I appreciate the moral message, but holy hell, everything was painful to read. All of them talked so much without saying anything. Going in circles without getting to the point. I nearly punched my screen after "the worst tragedy in human's history" got repeated for the umpteenth time without making me care why it's so horrible.

The incompetent writer couldn't get his shit together to conjure a brief dystopian exposition. No. This braindead faggot thought the proper way of writing is to just heap a mountain of adjectives upon a random noun, repeating those same nonsensical strings for an hour, filling in the blank with pretentious taunting. If he were a character in his own game, his title shall be the Ultimate Tell Not Show. Or Ultimate Teenage Edgelord. "It's something very bad! Extremely mega ultra super uber terribad! Also I'm a one-dimensional Disney villain who caused trouble because I'm evil and psycho!" <- There, I want 1 hour of my life back.

Except for some of the murder mysteries and some characters, this thing embodies everything I hate in anime/manga/LN/VN. The characteristically juvenile writing tendency.
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>>2185203
You're trying way too hard.
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>>2185203
This is literally a board for girls x girls only. Are you fucking stupid? Take this shit into tumblr
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>>2183293
Kirigiri is the best. I'm so depressed they wasted her perfection to ship her with Naegi, I will forever pretend Kirigiri/Sayaka or Kirigiri/Celes happened instead. Or maybe Kirigiri/any-girl, because she's that great lol

>>2183369
You have no idea how happy it made me. I always felt it was forced as hell and just a pathetic excuse to add another girl to the main character's harem (DR is not THAT bad when it comes to that, but there were a lot of hinted ships with him during the game, ugh). Mukuro has always been so blatantly in love with her sister, so seeing her being gay as hell around her was simply wonderful. It's definitely what truly made me stay until the end even when the plot became a total mess.
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>>2185733
also here's some Kirigiri/Mukuro
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this artist has drown a lot of sayaka/kirigiri stuff. wish it was translated

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=3749617&type=all
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>>2185733
From all the girls, I was kiinda shiping her with Asahina
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>>2185733
>I always felt it was forced as hell and just a pathetic excuse to add another girl to the main character's harem
That's so true, but this didn't prevent anyone from shiping Naegi x Kirigiri. Heck, they even thought episode when Kirigiri died , and the last episode was a confirmation that these two were canon.

It's just Naegi is painfully obvious he is a bland self insert mc.
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>Hey kid
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Also, scans fucking never.
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>>2185198
Keep going
There is a character in DR2 whose dialogue in the entire game is basically a parody of Naegi from the end of DR1
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>>2186221
This is not your blog and has nothing to do with yuri.
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>>2185884
They are cute together! Too bad there isn't much of them... well, Asahina is usually shipped with Sakura which is nice, but Kirigiri and her have some cute moments, too.

>>2185887
Yeah, Naegi is so bland and boring. His entire characterization is "if you think positive there's nothing you can't do!", it's easy to see he's just your usual optimistic main character you're supposed to relate to. Lol I wouldn't ship him with the girls even if he were decent, but his genericness and boring personality makes me hate het ships with him even more. He never grows up and learns anything, why should we think he deserves to date Kirigiri, Mukuro (although this would be a little hard since she's dead oops), Asahina, etc.? Free time events were such a pain since almost any girl had some shippy moments with him, even when it was definitely OOC.
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>>2184982
Here's some Kirigiri/Samidare
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>>2186376
You are correct, but sadly the DR3 anime doesn't live up to our imaginations.

The Mikan x Junko fanservice was lacking to say the least. They made Mikan more het than anything else. So disappointing, she's one of my top 3 girls in the games.
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>>2186436
same, anon! I loved Mikan in the third case, I was so excited for Zetsubou-hen but nooope, they had to ruin her. To be fair she was already used for het fanservice since the start, even in the game, but I was expecting more, maybe some interesting scenes on how she met Junko, how she fell for her. I read so many fanfiction about it, I even have a doujinshi hahah. Well, this ship will never die in fanon, we can always improve what they messed up in DR3 (desu my brain refuses to accept many things that happened in it, but this was the last straw)
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>>2184305
>I swear I could get pregnant just from looking at her.

Me too.

>>2185198
DR3 anime dialogue is all "hope hope hope hope!" and "Despair despair despair!"

>>2185733
>I will forever pretend Kirigiri/Sayaka or Kirigiri/Celes happened instead

Same
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>>2186534
Sad thing is, I can't seem to find any girl that would be a good match with Kirigiri, because of the lack of her communication with females.
Celes x Kirigiri seem good by looks, but there is nothing between them.
Only Asahina was a bit close to her, and they don't seem like they could work out, even in headcanon
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>>2186600
Shhh don't ruin our dreams

...but I agree, she barely has any canonical interaction with the other girls, except Samidare in DRK - which I haven't read yet. I can't really see her with any guy either, though. Naegi is the only one she seems to like and that's because he's the main character, everyone wants him for some reason. However, we all seem to agree that Kirigiri is too good for him, so I will gladly put yuri headcanons over canon if I have to. Like, I absolutely love Celes x Kirigiri because they're both aloof, secretive, and smart, they can be pretty strong emotionally and it would be interesting to see how they'd act in a relationship. Would they open up a little to each other? Would it end up badly instead because they're too used to act cold to conceal their weaknesses? I think it would be nice to explore this, I love this type of dynamics. Still, I don't think they ever spoke to each other for more than five minutes... but if I can pretend most of DR3 didn't happen, I can also ship this lol
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>>2187180
Looks-wise, Kirigiri x Sayaka is unchallenged.

Brain-wise, Kirigiri x Celeste would be the most interesting. I'd want to see them compete with each other in a series of deathly mind games and gambles.

Domestic-wise, Kirigiri x Asahina. Asahina's simpleminded, nurturing, energetic personality just scream HEALTHY COMPLEMENTARY for a workaholic detective.

But like other anons, the complete lack of interactions with other girls prevent me from actually shipping anything. The only time when Kirigiri acts friendly with girls was when she proposed all the girls to take a bath together, to cover up the fact they just discovered Alter Ego. Them acting in sync afterwards made me feel giddy.

Kirigiri deserves to be a yuri harem master and have her own game.
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>>2187211
>Kirigiri x Sayaka
I was never a fan of Sayaka.

Also, not sure how two aloof people who are similar could work in a relationship to be honest. One of them needs to be more expressive and hot headed to pull the other out.
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>>2187229
Sayaka was a borefest. That's why she's only good for her looks. She's the second prettiest girl in DR1 after Kirigiri.

Every personality can work with every personality, it's all about a good execution to convince the readers of a chemistry. I've witnessed "both aloof people" marrying in real life more times than I could count. Heck, even two hikkikoumori. It's a old cheesy bullshit "I can't connect to anyone except this one person." Extroverts and introverts are not different in that regard: you can either have lots of friends or you can have no friends, either way you can still have an SO.
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>>2182544
I sure hope it does.
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>>2185928
wait is this vanilla?
holy fuck
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>>2187246
>Every personality can work with every personality, it's all about a good execution to convince the readers of a chemistry
Preach, anon
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>>2185953
Lol yeah, Komaeda drives me crazy with his autism.

Finished DR2. If I thought listening to Komaeda was suffering, then going through chapter 6 was ultimate despair. It's horribly preachy and full of plot holes.

At least this time, I found the core concepts of the overatching plot fascinating. Junko's plan was intricated, she properly anticipated possible interferences. But the mediocre pacing of the last trial threw all my good impression outta the window. That amount of plot twists was not justifiable for 3 fucking hours of bitching back and forth.

The writer tried really really really hard to create a "me or the world" gray moral area, but I personally think he failed. It wasn't gray. Gray is where an innocent girl like Madoka has to stop living to save strangers. Gray is like an alien like Kyubey treating another species like cattle to save the universe. Gray is NOT war criminals and sadistic murderers don't want to lose happy memories to save innocent lives who could die from their actions. It's a very black and white situation, and thus it was fucking painful for me to read the pathetic apologists' excuses. The self-centered nature of the preaching was awful. Naegi risking thousand/million innocent lives to save a few was fucking pretentious, and he would get executed in a martial court. This is treason and a public hazard, not a fucking game (lol).

In the end, it's just a edgy teenage franchise with a misplaced sense of justice and grandeur (not to mention sexist). I'll continue to enjoy the murder mysteries and the sci-fi mind game, and stop hoping for any meaningful message.
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By the way Junko is a shitty villain

>>2187881
>(not to mention sexist)
Explain further.
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>>2187890
>Junko is a shitty villain
Yeah. I heavily dislike one-dimensional villains who is evil just for evil's sake. Braindead. I only like the mechanic of her planning.

>Explain
Constant bullshit with girls telling boys "you're a man you gotta be this and that" "We all need to break this door! - You sure? I'm a girl you know." fucking pissed me off. The writer is a guy, and he wrote girls saying that stuff in a positive light, meaning he's reinforcing the gender role crap in a pretentious way. Making a male character say to a girl "you go to the kitchen" would make him look bad, that's why the common tactic is to make the girls the ones who demand boys to act heroic while girls should be dependent on them.

A truly not sexist writer would make the guy (or another girl intervening in) refute that bullshit with "We're both humans, we should all do what we can for each other in our power."

Heirs of powerful organizations with actual training to inherit the business? All guys. Princess? Just a figure head who has no skill. Nevermind it's a fucking absolute monarchy and she'll be a Queen someday. Not mentioning the cringy fanservice, verbal sexual harrassment is normalized and rampant.

The writer also doesn't understand the concept of consent. E.g. peeking up on girls in the bath, Naegi weakly refused with "men's dream is great adventures, not peeking, and if they find out they'll kick our ass." Then later on he thought "even though I said that, I still wanted to..."

Your mileage might varies, but I personally can't call any male a decent human being if he doesn't accurately point out that "peeking is wrong because it's a crime/objectifying human beings/unconsensual sexual harrassment/preach of privacy and I'm disgusted by the thought."

Honestly, the only decent guy I've seen so far is Nidai. He's positive and appreciative, giving praise whenever it is due, the only one who doesn't discriminate, isn't a creep, never put anyone down for the sake of edginess.
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>>2187397
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Hiyoko's crush for Mahiru in DR2 was freaking adorable, so I didn't expect to ship Mahiru/Satou after seeing them in DR3 anime. What's up with pussies pining after this redhead? Is it the freckles? She should be called Ultimate Lesbian.
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>>2187881
>>2187928
Seriously? This is not /u/ related. Fuck off
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>>2187928
>>2187881
If you're gonna make a tumblr/blog post, at least have the courtesy to attach a picture to go along with your bizarre tangent.
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>>2187928
Look, I kinda agree with some of your points but:
1) Japan has different standards from the west, you can't expect media from a different country to conform to the same ideas we may have;
2) why the actual fuck are you still talking about this on /u/? Go make a blog to vent your feelings instead of posting them here, this is a thread for YURI CONTENT. We don't care, okay?
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>>2188089
Mahiru/Satou is great. I love that people were shipping it even before she had an actual face!
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>>2186573
Alright, this is more bullshit than complaining about ships: Celes's whole thing is being the ultimate gambler, she wouldn't get cleaned out by Kirigiri unless she was throwing strip poker to bone.
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>>2189373
Maybe she is losing on purpose? Or maybe she is letting Kirigiri win for now, but she will turn the tables?
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>>2187997
>peachy thighs

lordt
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Apparently this was made by one of the official animators? I feel really happy about it!
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>>2187997

'Mikan' is Japanese for oranges, should've had a tl note for the pun there
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Are there any good tokomaru lewds?
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Ultra Despair Girls is coming to PS4 and Steam summer 2017. Hopefully it'll get some good Steam wallpapers of them together.
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I'm depressed there isn't much Junko/Kirigiri hatesex
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>>2194636
>Junko
Take that scum away from Queen
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>>2194795
go away
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>>2194817
neverrrrr (lol I just ship the Queen with every girl)
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>>2194933
>tmw extenssions are literal Doritos cones
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>>2194636
...is there more to this?
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>>2195269
Yes but that's like the only page that looks yuri when out of context.
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>>2195269
>>2195271
Yup, it's the least yuri doujin you'll probably find. I've seen other stuff with these two, but it always ends up in het sex (usually with Naegi, ugh). Or it's futa. Or it has tentacles. Whyyy.
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Kyoko is my favorite but I don't see her with anybody else besides Makoto. She seemed very reclusive and hesitant to form relationships with anybody. Makoto opened her up and *actually* won her heart with his decision making and saving her life.

This ship, however, I totally approve of.
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>>2196648
>Makoto opened her up and *actually* won her heart with his decision making and saving her life.
are you actually praising a het ship on /u/
a ship that reeks self-insertion from every pore
Onee-chan plz
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>>2196946
uncensored:
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>>2196816
I'm a girl and recently I realized the only het ships I'm down for are player insert main characters with the girl I like.

(...like kirigiri and naegi... ugh...)
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>>2198623
same here
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>>2198372
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>>2198377
I need more of this ship.
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>>2199846
>tmw one bicep is as big as Asahina's head
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>>2198351
We need a Seiko x Kirigiri x Mikan fanart, symbolising they were the ones who saved her life
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>>2184058
considering that she is the main character, Kaede is probably not going to get killed.

>>2182544
on the other hand, i wouldn't be surprised at all if Maki is like Sayaka where in the promotional material it seems like she will be a deuteragonist of sorts but she ends up getting killed very early. hopefully that doesn't happen though.
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>>2192659
uhh, the closest thing if have to lewd is this picture of them without clothes.
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>>2199872
I would like to see this! So far no one has done it...
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>>2200143
Well, in Danganronpa 2, no one actually died despite the premise, so really, the main character dying here is not that far-fetched.
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>>2201286
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Gee, I sure do love Junko x Kirigiri
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I never would have known getting into this series would give me such a neat ship

Thank god for you, roommate that lent me the first game.
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>>2204077
literally all I have >_>
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>>2200354
Oh, just realized I had not seen this one. There's not enough ~lewd stuff~ with them
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>>2187308
Thank you based /u/ user
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>silhouette hitchhiker girls give kisses to Kaede when she picks them up
Is this yuri?
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>>2219666
Since the game is about lying and everyone is a criminal, I thought Kaede might be the masterming, kinda like And There Were None.

>Kaede is looking for the one who murdered the girl she loves
>Falls in love with one of the girls
>The girl is the murderer
>End battle is a cruel fight between two girls in love

Yeah...that will never happen
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So the V3 demo got released in Japan the other day. Yuri developments so far:
*Tenko Chabashiro, the Aikido girl, has an openly strong hatred of boys.
*Miu Iruma, the goggle girl, is a total perv, calling Kaede a vibrator and getting turned on. Clearly best girl.
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>>2220081
>calling Kaede a vibrator
She said Kaede was shaking like a vibrator.

You forgot Maki getting embarrassed when Kaede called her a person capable of deep love.

Cosplayer also thought the maid looked amazing while she was working.
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>>2219666
I mean, if this takes place in her brain, then that probably says a lot.
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>>2220081
>has an openly strong hatred of boys
You might as well make a giant sign that says, "I'm going to fall in love with a guy".
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>>2221715
She blushes alot and gets really embarrassed when other girls compliment her. But your point will still most likely turn out true.
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Looks like female MC has the option to date girls in the post-main story dating mode.

>Love Variety Around the Universe Dangan Benijakedan” is one of the bonus modes you unlock after beating the main game. Monokuma, the supposed headmaster of Saishuu, makes the sixteen SHSL students participate in a Romance Observation Variety game while living together. You can enjoy spending time with the students and within 10 days, complete their love route.

>screenshot text (spoken by narrator): What do you want to do with Toujou-san (the maid)?
>Spend time together
>Invite on a date
>Find someone else

http://jinjojess.tumblr.com/post/154879042158/kanda-sayaka-interview-in-dec-22nd-2016-famitsu
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>>2222913
I would rather like they keeping this kind of thing off, but okay.

But to someone who bothered playing this mode in the older games, you can date guys in them, too, can't you?
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>>2223359
You can date guys in V3. In the older games only the girls were dateable by male MC, but certain guy routes had shippable moments. V3 seems to be the first game where MC can date everyone.
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>>2223373
No, I mean. This is not the Free Time events. This is that mode you open after the game, I remember that you could use the date tickets with guys. But I never played that mode much, so I don't know if those scenes were gay or just bros doing bros things.

Still not-canon, though.
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>>2223386
The guys had friendship routes in previous games. That's why Kaede seemingly able to date everyone is such a big deal to people.
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>>2223409
I'm pretty sure you had dates with the guys in Island Mode/School Mode. And I remember the game calling it "raise their love", too. It's pretty much the same mode.

I just don't know if they date were romantic in content or just bait. But we don't know here either.

Just saying this is nothing new, Reload already had the same thing. I would rather her free time with the girls being romantic. That's the one who usually were just about friendship with the guys.

Actually, I would rather have a true subtext romance lines in the main plot.
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>>2223418
yeah you had dates with both genders in the first two games. when you get someone's love to max, you get their underwear as an item (for both guys and girls). happens with every character.
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Why do you people like this game? It's shit.
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>>2226735
To each his own I guess. The story is kinda silly but it's more about unraveling the mystery behind each case. It's not Gyakuten Saiban I guess but beggars can't be chosers.
I heard good things about yuri in DR3 so I'm looking forward to that.
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A fantranslator and programmer apparently found this in the code of the V3 demo. Miu is certainly an interesting girl if this is real.
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>>2234147
source?
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>>2236025
Not same anon, but I was so curious I looked around. No one of the people I follow for their DR translations wrote about it, so I was forced to check Tumblr (ugh). It seems like it was this user who got it first? Not sure, but he has other sprites as well: http://valwinz.tumblr.com/post/155365649276/why-kodaka
people are already getting mad, I'm laughing
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>>2236065
>>2234147
Any chance there's any maid on Kaede action?
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>>2236065
Why are people mad?
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>>2236716
Because it's Tumblr lol. People are inevitably going to get TRIGGERED by something... which is ironic, since they're enthusiastically playing a game about despair, murder, and that features characters who have been sexually abused at some point. I guess a girl holding a sex toy is worse? I hope they keep that sprite in the game, it reminds me of Murcielago.

>>2236361
So far, no evidence of it whatsoever. However, I would be veeery pleased if it happened. The maid is adorable.
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>>2237072
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>>2236716
Tumbler just loves to be angry and indignant about thing. What those things are don't matter in the slightest.
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>>2237072
>I'm overjoyed! A real Japanese serial killer!
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Lil bit of shipping in one of the DR3 Anthology chapters.
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V3 just launched and the trailer has a screenshot with Kaede, Sayaka, and Ibuki together.
>Ibuki
Now to play the waiting game.
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big spoiler
kaede dies
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>>2241998
Oh my god, Ibuki being part of the Kaede harem! I've got to get this-

>>2242052
Dropped
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>>2242115
Saihara takes her place as the protagonist and there's a chance he might be a reverse trap.
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>>2242143
I haven't read any spoilers on him being a reverse trap, so far all signs are pointing to him being another bland boring self-insert. If they were going to do a protag switch up, at least give it to Maki or another girl
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>>2242052
Source?
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>>2242184
don't watch this if you care about spoilers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QlsphCxTWM
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>>2242185
Well this is disappointing and it appears to be true just based on googling.

This is probably a spoiler I'm glad to know beforehand. I'm completely dropping this series.
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>>2242052
Dissapointing. Does anyone knows when it happens?
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>>2242203
Nevermind >>2242185 was posted as I wrote.
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>>2242052
What's annoying is that the fans wanted this to happen. I'll wait for the franchise to punch them all in the face in a future installment when it goes full yuri.
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>>2242203
Look at just
>>2242185
the title of this video

That made my heart sink. I'll still get it because I enjoy the series very much, just probably not as soon as it comes out.
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>>2242192
>>2242185
>>2242206
At this point what I'm feeling isn't even despair.

Just pure, unadulterated rage.
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>>2242212
I hope this bites them in the butt and gets a shit ton of negative feedback. I heard the anime wasn't that well-received either.
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I'll be satisfied as long as I get to be a raging lesbian in the postgame mode.
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>>2242185

I'm so disappointed, I can't believe they did this, damn, I played both Danganronpa 1 and 2 and I was so excited to play as a girl this time and they did this. Goddamnit, I'm not buying this for my ps4.
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>>2242240
me neither. I really liked her so far and was so looking forward to playing as a girl in one of the "main" games... I admit I like the idea of the protagonist dying and being replaced, but... not her. Why.
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>>2242052
Thanks, anon. With that spoiler I just lost any motivation to play this. So I spoiled myself and the plot is shit. You saved me $60 and a big disappointment.

Rip Danganronpa. You had three good games.
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>>2242239
>implying you won't be playing it with the male protagonist
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>>2242239
>2242239
Don't waste your money. Chances are the girl was just a red herring like the nameless fake protagonist in Fate/Extra.
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>dropping the series because they had a decoy protagonist
You'll all come crawling back when V5 or whatever has a FeMC.
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>>2242536
>implying
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>>2242536
>implying the series will survive that long after the shitty writing they're pulling since the anime.

I wouldn't mind much if they had showed a male protagonist since the beginning. Female protagonists are rare. Then they show one and switch to a boring male lead. This is bait bullshit and I hope the series die already.

Also, I read spoilers after that. The plot is fanfiction tier and makes no sense.
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>>2242536
No, I think they've made it pretty clear now that they're up there with Persona in terms of not wanting to commit to having a FeMC in a mainline game ever, so I'm good.
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>>2242561
I couldn't agree more with this. The first anime was too rushed, plus DR3 was total shit, I only kept watching for the Despair sisters (I also wanted to know who the mastermind in Mirai-hen was, but even that was disappointing as fuck in the end). I was curious when they revealed Kaede for v3, finally another girl protagonist, and Kodaka saying it was going to be a total different story fueled my excitement. Then, this. Of course. We should have expected it since in the first promotional pics she was nowhere to be seen, but it still hurt... and the plot? Ridiculous. No wonder no one is understanding anything.

Of course, no Kaede = even less chances to get yuri. From what I've seen, Miu turned out to be the (het) fanservice character of this game. Not sure if Tenko the man-hater is implied lesbian or what, but at this point I don't care.
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>>2242590
Man-hater is usually short hand for 'falls for special male MC'
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>>2242568
I used to think DR was different. But you're right. It's just another shit power fantasy for male audience, just a little better written. I mean, just look how many female characters died in the series with no other purpose than to make drama to a male character: Sayaka, Peko, Chiaki, Kirigiri (fake, but same purpose), the teacher in the anime and now Kaede. They made some teasing with her and the new protagonist. I mean, every game aside from Despair Girls did the exact same thing. That's a shame. The series had potential to be great.

>>2242590
>course. We should have expected it since in the first promotional pics she was nowhere to be seen, but it still hurt...

Everyone was saying that since she first appeared. That just show how stupid and predictable the development is. I didn't believe it would happen because I thought Kodaka was a better writer than that.
Oh well, lesson learned, I guess.
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>>2242590
>From what I've seen, Miu turned out to be the (het) fanservice character of this game.

You know what's worse?
Miu is Kaede's sister. They should make her the new protagonist, so we would have a parallel with Junko and Mukuro. Despair Sisters and Hope Sisters.

But I think they needed a better writer to think of something like that.
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>>2242590
Tenko likes the witch girl. Tenko dies in chapter 3.
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>>2242737
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>>2242611
>Miu is Kaede's sister. They should make her the new protagonist, so we would have a parallel with Junko and Mukuro.

Fuuuuuuck, so much wasted potential.
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>>2242608
>The series had potential to be great
Isn't that tautologically true? That's essentially saying that if the series had been great instead of what it ended up as then it would have been a great series.
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>>2242961
Well, it had a lot of good element, so it had more potential than series with not good elements at all.

>>2242891
When we read the spoilers to the game, there was a lot of adjustments that we could make to make it an actually good games. Even Kaede's death would make more sense if it was made different.

Since she died to frame the mastermind, it makes no sense that they don't go after the mastermind soon after. They should have made her realize the rules of the games (I mean, they should actually make rules to the game, too) and find out about the mastermind. Then in the previous to last chapter, she dies without killing anyone (that's what happened). Then at the exact following chapter, they ambush the mastermind saying she killed an innocent, so she's the blackened.
They could make Miu being the one who finds about Kaede being the "blackened", so she could have a breakdown when she discover Kaede is her sister and take her place in the end. (by the way, Kaede dies asking them to save her sister, but they let her die anyway).
Just discard the whole alternate universe and brainwash bullshit and give an actual reason for the mastermind to make the killing game.
And there, the game is fixed...


Well, I'm just giving up on this series. I wouldn't give other chance even if the next game is about an openly yuri couple.

Ok, I would give another chance for that, but never gonna happen.

In the end, Kaede dying isn't such a bad thing when we stop to think about it. It would be worse if the game with an actual female protagonist would end up being this trainwreck. At least this shit has a protagonist as shitty.
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>>2243071
But in the end that's assuming Kodaka knows how to write anymore. He legitimately just writes bullshit after bullshit for "shock" and to piss fans off. It's an easy lesson in "10 Ways Not to Write a Game."
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>>2243086
I think DR1/2 and UDG are well written. The anime is a mess, but I always thought it was just the new writer's fault. Now I believe he maybe had a hand on that thing. He even brought brainwashing bullshit again.

He probably planned 1 and 2 together and UDG was simple enough to no fuck it up. So to V3 he had no idea and wrote any bullshit that came to his mind. What, yes, doesn't make him a good writer, but a lucky one.

Thinking about it, Kaede's death is pretty much Sayaka's death, and her plan is pretty much Nagito's death plan.
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>>2243089
Taking away from that is the fact that I too believe 1 and 2 are well written. He probably had the two planned out together with DR2's vague ending being just that: a light of hope shining in the world's ruination. With Sayaka's death it makes sense, we're allured into believing this assistant character is going to be a major player when in reality she's dead.

Kaede's death seems like Kodaka decided to make a female character who is aware of her talent the main character, then realized that he can rehash old ideas. Thus we get a stupid bait and switch and have BLANK SELF INSERT as the new main character. Naegi and Hajime were that, but their personalities played off the fact they were the odd ones out: they had no talent and we were placed into those shoes. It'd be different if Kaede were killed off near the end, and then we switch to someone else. We got to know Kaede more and see her interactions with people, making it all the more shocking when she is killed: either as culprit or victim. It's a train wreck and Kodaka seems to not care.
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>>2242608
>>2243089
I truly hate how female characters have been treated lately. It's always been like this (see: Sayaka, Peko especially), but at least there were many more girls doing cool stuff to balance things out. That's why DR and SDR2 were more tolerable for me personally (plus Despair Girls that gave us something new and I don't feel like criticizing). Then DR3 came and the bad writing started to be much more evident. So many predictable plot twists happened. Some people theorized that Kodaka was trying to appease fans that were pissed off for the lack of a positive (=cheesy) ending, especially when it comes to the "main" ships, but I'm starting to wonder if it's true. Since he was so excited for this new game and it turned out so pathetic, I can't help but think his writing abilities are worse than we thought. He's just recycling things at this point.

>>2242611
Yes, I heard, and I agree with the parallel! I wouldn't be so annoyed if she had been the one replacing Kaede. Not only it would have made sense, but switching a female protagonist for another one isn't as shitty as what actually happened. Or you know... at least let her survive for more chapters. Let us get attached to her, give her character more importance. If she has to die, do it in a more dignitose way.
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>>2242611
Kaede doesn't actually have a sister.
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>>2243430
Wait, what? Was that a lie, too? I don't know who I should believe anymore.
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>>2243438
The mastermind makes up some bullshit about Kaede having a twin sister in the final trial.
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>>2243464
Well, this game is a mess, it seems.
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>>2243479
The killing game this time is a reality tv show. The people who die are actually dead, but everyone's memories, personalities, and talents are all the result of the showrunners brainwashing them. Their non-brainwashed selves agreed to participate because they were all suicidal.
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>>2243481
What's the point? Literally what's the point of it? That's not even a plot twist, that's just shitting on the characters you wrote. It's not like DR2, where the characters had turned into Despair and the game portrays them as they were prior to the game. How do you write DR1 + DR2, two great games whose off the wall plot lines work, and then write a shitty pandering anime and a mess of a game like this?
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>>2243503
>DR1+DR2
Funny you should mention that.
DR1 and DR2 never actually happened.
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>>2243506
Wait, nevermind I got that wrong.
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>>2243507
That one sentence is more Danganronpa than V3 is.
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>>2243481
How? How do you brainwash someone into having a talent? This is just lowkey insulting to all the people who have played Danganronpa. The whole point is that we love how all the characters are so different because of their talents. And now only one of them has a talent and the rest of them are just fake?Fucking hell Kodaka, why did you stop giving a shit about your own series? Despite as many problems as Zero Time Dilemma had, it at least treated the characters with respect for the previous games' story. Not to mention detective boy is literally just a rip off of Naoto from Persona 4.
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>>2243540
Same way they did it with Hinata/Izuru, I think.
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>>2243481
I heard about the brainwashing. The last part is news...and retard.

Like...do you care about these characters? Well, they didn't even exist like that.
Sad that DR now appeals to cheap twists.
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>>2243540
I heard this one.

The mastermind is the ultimate cosplayer. So she made clothes to them according to the fake talent, so somehow they believe in that role...because that's what the ultimate cosplayers does.
Also, Rentarou is the only other one with a talent. Ultimate Survivor because he survived the last two killing games. I mean, think about that. The guy looks like Nagito. And Ultimate Survivor because he survived the games is pretty much Ultimate Lucky already.
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>>2243546
honestly, I always thought this series sounded pretty retarded anyway, but this takes the biscuit.
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>>2243554
As dumb as DR1 and DR2 sound, they are very good. DR2 takes a lot of leaps, but in the end it all ties together with what was going on in their world. DR3 ruined a lot with killing off all the new characters, while simultaneously reviving a bunch of dead old characters and doing other stupid shit. DRV3 was supposed to be a new beginning to Danganronpa. It was supposed to have new characters and NO RELATION to the first two games or stories. Kodaka is infamous for lying to fans, but to outright lie and sell a game for profit? Isn't that why we hated No Man's Sky, because they lied? Kodaka lied and said this would be a new experience, and instead we get a pile of shit with a story that makes no fucking sense. (At least the designs of the characters are cool)
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Just went to the spoilers on reddit and...
Apparently the game tries to force a moral about how the players only play the game for the gore and deaths and don't care about the characters. That's the point of it being a reality show...
So...Kodaka watched Cabin in the Woods recently, it seems.
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>>2243561
Yes because that's the reason we all played. That's why every time a character died in DR3, an anime which was airing, everyone fucking freaked out about their favorite character dying. To force a moral like that is absolutely fucking shitty. We only play for the gore and deaths? While the executions are very interesting to watch, mostly because of DR's art style, we don't play it for gore and death. We play it for the characters and story, and it just so happens that characters die and get executed.
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>>2243571
Yeah, it's shitty development and really cliched. But you know what? I think Kodaka is trying to sabotage the series. I think he's tired of it and wants to kill it. Just think about how many series killing flag he raised.
Decoy protagonist? Check.
The world was all a lie? Check.
The last two games never happened? Check.


Just the first will throw a lot of gamers into rage. The other two aren't any better. And then he goes and insult the player with this fake moral.
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>>2243573
Could he not just stop making them in that case? Or is he obliged to?
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>>2243577
He's an employer. If they ask a new game, I think he just needs to do a new game. It's not unheard of in the media, anyway. They could just change the writer, but then no one would buy.
Seriously, Spike Chunsoft doesn't have much high selling games. They would tie him in the chair for a new game probably.
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>>2243577
It depends on who you work for. For example, Shu Takumi wanted to stop making Ace Attorney games after Trials and Tribulations. He wanted to direct another game called Ghost Trick, but Capcom wouldn't let him unless he did another AA game. Thus we got Apollo Justice, a game which infuriated him because he was forced to include Phoenix Wright in it. Basically it boils down to your boss and what sells. But at least Takumi put effort into the games he was a part of, he eventually spun off to direct Dai Gyakuten Saiban, a series which he is proud of because he's able to pursue old ideas which he was unable to use. Kodaka could have just made a game that was good and then hopefully not have to make anymore.
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Ok...so...
Apparently the entire plot is about the game DANGANRONPA (yeah, the game) that spanned 52 entries because it was so popular that people, bored because real life is boring, thought that making a real killing game would be cool. Then some kids that were fans of the game asked to be part of it, because it was cool or something, trying to kill each other. And that's it. That's what DRV3 is.

If that's not a clear "please, stop making danganronpa games" message, I don't know what it is.
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There are so many conflicting accounts about the true plot of this game can someone please just explain to me what's right and what's wrong?
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>>2243599
The >>2243595 is in the streaming of the final chapter that people just saw today. Before that was just rumour and speculation.
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>>2243602
So the game is really about that? It's really about that?
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>>2243611
Apparently...yeah.
Also, I'm not sure. But Kaede's death might be way less heroic than we thought at first.
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>>2243615
Is there any full record of spoilers anywhere so I can cohesively understand what the fuck is happening?
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>>2243617
They're still finishing the stream, so I doubt anyone put the spoilers in just one place. But you can try to find it on reddit. They're discussing the stream there.
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So I've only heard negative things so far about the game. What are some positives of the game?
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>>2243622
The game characters are literally fighting to kill the Danganronpa franchise...Not even kidding. They're saying just that. I think thats...interesting...
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>>2243628
It doesn't make sense though. The main series has THREE games over the course of 7 years. What a fucking baby. I'd understand if this was a series that was churning out new games ever single year, but we haven't had a new main DR game since 2012. 5 years. Is Kodaka seriously treating his game like fucking Call of Duty, a series that's been out for over a decade with games coming out every year?
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So, ending spoilers:
They refuse to play the killing game at the end, then the Danganronpa franchise is executed (I'm serious...you know, those executions? Last one is the entire franchise). The robot kills himself while taking the villain together. The end is the detective, Maki and the witch girl surviving...that's it. Also, Kaede died for nothing.

I mean, really, they left alive the self insert and the two most popular girls with the otaku fanbase. Really?
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>>2243643
I'm just laughing desu. That's a pretty thorough franchise assassination.
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>>2243615
There is no plan between her and Rantarou to fake his death. What actually happens is she sets a trap with a metal ball near a secret door for the mastermind, Rantarou finds it, trap activates but doesn't kill actually him. Mastermind shows up, murders Rantarou, then frames Kaede. Kaede lets herself get executed since she really thinks it's her fault.
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>>2243647
So...the few actual good ideas were fake.
Thanks, Kodaka. Good job killing the franchise. I'm sure you managed to do it.

Also, thanks again, /u/, dodged a bullet thanks to you.
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Also, that's obvious, but school mode really isn't with Kaede.
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Kodaka could have easily just ended the series after DR3. We wanted another game, but this is just him shitting on the fans. At least give a well meaning and well thought out close to the series that ties up loose plot points (Zero Time Dilemma), even if it's not the best. Nope, instead we get a game that mocks us for liking a series with mystery.
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>>2243652
>but this is just him shitting on the fans

You know...
When the protagonists start to kill the franchise in the game, the Danganronpa fans are mad. So yeah, apparently, we're the villains.

Also, after everything is over, the survivors talk about go after the Team Danganronpa to finish them for good.

I hope they kill Kodaka too...
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By the way. If anyone still wants to play the game when comes out, just pirate it. It's coming to PC, after all.

Kodaka himself doesn't want you to buy it, so don't.
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>>2243660
Well shouldn't we buy it just to spite him? If it sells well then Spike Chunsoft will want him to make more games.
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>>2243661
Sure it's a way to look at it. I don't have money to throw away, though.
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Honestly, I don't mind the whole Truman Show thing. If could have been an interesting way to have it take place disconnected from the main series. In a dystopian world, people get their laughs from watching killing games on television. In the end the survivors want to survive and end it all, just like how the original cast wanted to end Junko's reign of despair. But nope instead they had to make it meta and be about how awful people are for wanting a Danganronpa game, even though it's been 5 years since one came out.
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>>2243668
But anon, you're a terrible person for getting attached to these characters and cheering them on!

If we think about it, if it's the same twist as Cabin in the Woods, Kodaka isn't criticizing anything. Cabin in the Woods didn't criticize horror fans because they like horror, but their attitude to the movies. Joss Whedon said he himself likes horror, but that those movies were cheap nowadays because they're about deaths, not characters....

That's the opposite of the Danganronpa franchise. Seriously, it's just an empty critique.
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>>2243687
That's the issue isn't it, in the end? No one played Danganronpa just to watch characters get executed and murdered. That just happened to be part of the story, our favorite characters would die and then we move on to see what the next development is. Kodaka's cheapened imitation of Cabin in the Woods' ending doesn't work because we're comparing a series with two games to an entire genre that was falling apart through reused ideas.
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So does postgame Kaede get a complimentary yuri harem for her trouble?
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>>2243691
So maybe the point is not criticize what the franchise is, but what he feared the franchise would become, so he's trying to kill it before that happens? Still stupid.

>>2243695
See: >>2243650
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>>2243700
Yeah but no game like this goes on for more than a few games. It took us FIVE years to get another main series game, ignoring the re-released on VITA, PC, and PS4. Fearing his series would become something like CoD, that releases every year is something fucking stupid to fear for a series that only releases every couple years.
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So does anyone think the game is worth buying when it's out in the west?
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>>2243759
Going by general reactions in this thread, I'd say the answer is a resounding "no".
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>>2242227
No it won't DR is more popular than ever and DR 3 proves pandering to fujos is far more profitable as well as that disgusting series yaoi on ice. When will u/ wake up and stop being pathetic and start uniting behind series instead of throwing a hissy fit over every minor thing you don't like.

All u/ has done by encouraging yaoi is make yaoi main stream and yuri less main stream as it doesn't sell anywhere near as well. It doesn't help when big youtubers like GiggUk shit on yuri as fan service for men while praising yaoi on ice for being so progressive. I love the series and have no intention over aiding such a pathetic boycott. I bet your boycott won't even make a dent in the sales.
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>>2243776
>It doesn't help when big youtubers like GiggUk shit on yuri as fan service for men

Wait, he really did that? He can sod off if so.
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>>2242608
Holy shit this sounds like a tumblr rant your on the wrong site you salty cunt. Muh empowered womens BS is feminism 101 get out.
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>>2243778
Yeah he had a meltdown as a Britfag over Pol related issues probably Brexit and Trump and went full social justice saying how great it was to have a proper gay male couple and how progressive it was.

Then when reviewing the yuri kiss of the previous season I'm sure u/ already knows what I am referring to. He just made a jokey commentary about it laughing with another guy. No mention over how this was a great change and something that was welcomed and that the industry needs more of this like he did with yaoi on ice.
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>>2243561
Lol Undertale does this ad gets praised DR does it and gets demonised I wonder why? While I fucking hate the brainwashing u/ are getting way too salty over the 1st chapter.
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>>2243788
Undertale was aiming at gaming in general. Gaming as a whole existing for decades. DRv3 targets it specifically at DR and DR fans. DR has only had two main games, however Kodaka portrays it in a light that makes it seem like DR has been going on for 30 years with a game every year with the same plot, with people only in it for the death.

And the reason people are salty about chapter 1's death is because in the end it means nothing. We're led to believe it was for the greater good, but in the end it was meaningless and nothing more than shock value.
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>>2243788
Really? THAT's what gets Undertale praise? Holy hell that sounds like some half assed commentary. Do the devs know that it's possible to love a game for both the violence AND the characters? What a crock of shit.
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>>2243799
>Really? THAT's what gets Undertale praise?
No.
Also in Undertale you have a choice that is not hidden as some epic plot twist. Literally everything from game's summary to the tutorial areas are telling you to not kill shit, so it only turns into a meta commentary by your deliberate actions
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Wow, I missed so many posts in this thread. I must say I'm grateful to /u/ for being the only decent place to discuss this shit, I really don't agree on the general opinion I saw around. Maybe more people will start to dislike this game when they also read these spoilers, they definitely couldn't save the already-super-low impression I had.

>>2243595
...so Danganronpa is literally just a game in this universe? Wow, way to ruin the older games. If we all got so attached to the characters and story, it's exactly because it doesn't matter how ridiculous the game is, it doesn't matter how cliches some things are, they were still well-written enough that we perceived them as "real". As everyone already said, no one (or at least not the majority of fans) played these games for gore. I like how creative the executions are, but I really wouldn't care about it if the characters were boring and average. That's exactly what the strong point of DR was, and what has just been destroyed.

Without mentioning how much this idea seems copied from other writers who actually know how to do their job. However, I feel like this confirms my theory that Kodaka dislikes the fandom, otherwise he would have never represented it as stupid and mindless as he did. Idk if he's a good troll or what, however he truly sounded enthusiastic about this new game... yet, he seems so pissed off at the fans.
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>>2243883
What he's attempting to do is make a meta commentary like they did in Cabin in the Woods. But it falls flat because Danganronpa is 2 games and not a fucking entire genre.
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>>2243776
No, you know, maybe Kaede's death was the reason I got disappointed and went to see spoilers of the game. At some point I even thought that maybe I could still enjoy it even after that, but after reading everything...no, it's just a shitty story, that's that.

If you're still buying the game, I guess you didn't read the spoilers, so maybe you'll see. If you still think it's a good story, can't do anything about it. But I can tell you that there's a lot of people that hated it and they couldn't give a shit about Kaede.

Hell, there's already reviews on Amazon saying the last chapter is a mess and killed the entire franchise.
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>>2243991
>killed the entire franchise
Which is exactly what Kodaka wants, so please buy DRv3.
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>>2244065
The most I learn about the franchise, the most that seems likely.

Chunsoft actually created a "Team Danganronpa" it seems, to keep the franchise going.
In the game, Team Danganronpa is the team making the reality show. The game end with the characters saying they're going to kill the team Danganronpa.
Kodaka probably realized they would keep the franchise without him, since he takes time writing the games and they want to milk it since it's their best selling game.
He keeps tweeting: "Fiction isn't over. The story won't end." on twitter. People see it as him saying he'll keep doing the series, but that also looks like a rant to me, about how Chunsoft just won't let it die.
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>>2244095
I don't buy that. Why would an entire team working on the game do a middle finger to Spike Chunsoft whom many are founding members from.Kodaka wrote the game, but it had to go by everyone making the game as well unless he was a dictator. I don't think there really is as big of a disconnect as you think.

Why would Spike support Kodaka in making this ending if they didn't at least think he was right. So, I am more leaning to the idea that this is more a rip against the fandom as opposed to Spike not letting it die.
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>>2244110
Because they're stupid? A lot of people loved the anime, so I'm sure a lot of people doesn't even know what DR was even about. Don't forget that the higher up in those companies aren't really gamers. They don't understand what kills a franchise and what not. Sure, some people on the team would realize that, but don't forget Kodaka has more influence than any of them. Hell, he probably had total freedom in the game. Also, he could convince them.

"It's just a self deprecing joke, guys. People will love it."

Of course, there's always the possibility that Kodaka is just stupid as hell and thought it would be a good idea to make his entire game a joke. Who knows. And there's also the possibility that Chunsoft did realize it, but choose to sell it as a empty critique to their own franchise, thinking people wouldn't drop it, because they would think it was genial. People are stupid, after all. You know, like that episode in Black Mirror.
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>>2243780
Stop projecting, dumbass. This is a yuri board. Tumblr-tier "all women are oppressed waaah" bullshit doesn't have a place here, but of course people are going to complain about "male power fantasies" when said power fantasies result in a female MC with high yuri potential getting killed off and replaced with a dude. If you're going to get all triggered over that maybe you're the one who doesn't belong here.
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>Saihara is the protag in the dating mode
Preorder cancelled.
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I'm not as pissed about V3 anymore. I was really pissed off about it earlier, but I can at least understand the ending and I don't really hate it as much as I did.
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>>2244113
>"It's just a self deprecing joke, guys. People will love it."

And going by reactions Ive seen in other places, many really /do/ love it and already proclaimed it the second coming of Jesus Christ when it comes to amazing mind blowing writing.


So anyway,
So did the Danganronpa 1 and 2 happen in V3 universe or was it just a fiction? Because I see people saying in universe it's supposed to be a bunch of games, but then other people say it's a "reality show" and well, wasn't the killing game in original Danganronpa a reality show broadcasted to the entire world? (Ive only played the first game)
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>>2244462
Personally, I'm okay with the ending. It's not spectacular but I think a lot of people are overblowing the game being shit because of Chapter 1's death. I didn't like it, but I don't really mind it.

Basically in DRv3's universe, they had what we had. They had Danganronpa and Super Danganronpa 2, probably the spin offs and anime too. However, people were so bored with real life and so enthralled with the idea of Danganronpa that they created a fake reality series where people would participate in a school life with fake deaths and such. However, the current season of the show is pushed forward to be real. With the participants having their minds wiped and being given new identities. All the deaths are real in this season.
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Any sign of a reverse trap?
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>>2244505
no
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Anyone got the sprites for the Scrum Debates?
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>>2244462
>And going by reactions Ive seen in other places, many really /do/ love it and already proclaimed it the second coming of Jesus Christ when it comes to amazing mind blowing writing.

West has not standard for writing and I'm sure a lot of them liked it. Not that Japan is any better, but for this series it seems like their fanbase is better. Just look at the amount of 1 star review on japanese Amazon, for both the PS4 and the Vita version. In both cases the 1 star overthrow everything else. That for a series that had most 5 star in the previous entries. Even Despair Girls has a high rating there, even though they changed the genre for that.

>>2244466
There's interesting ideas, but the execution is shit anyway, and it makes the entire game just a joke for the final punchline.
Also, the cheap twist on the first chapter just show that this series will do twist just for the sake of twist now, when they used to be better than that. So yeah, I'm done with it.
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Tenko is best girl!
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>>2244751
Amazon JP is a joke. They rated the game, Dai Gyakuten Saiban, low because the game doesn't solve all of the mysteries it brings up because it was getting a sequel.

You can have a game with one bad flaw, in this case it's the game's ending. You can't just give up on a series because of a shitty ending. If that was true everyone would have given up after the asspull that was DR3.
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>>2245082
>Amazon JP is a joke.

They overreact, but most of the time, they're right. Maybe I wouldn't care about Alysha in Zestiria, but I get why they were angry about the false marketing. Same thing with OreShika, where Sony promoted the game as something it wasn't. I think they're right. You don't promote the game as something and delivers something different. Sure, they want to surprise you, but the marketing they do should deliver at least.

>You can have a game with one bad flaw, in this case it's the game's ending.

The beggining and the ending. And maybe the middle of the game is good, but...
Who cares? It's all fake anyway. You can get invested in their stories and motivations and at the end, it'll all be for nothing. I think it's a good reason the hate the entire game.

>If that was true everyone would have given up after the asspull that was DR3.

Most people believe DR3 isn't Kodaka's work. If I believed it was his writing, I was out already. I know most people blame the anime writer exclusively because I have been following theses discussions for months. And, well, even IF it was Kodaka's work, then he fucked up twice in a roll.

I lost faith in his writing and in the series. I can't say the next game will restore that faith (if they even make one). I doubt it. That's how mystery works. If you don't believe the writer, you can't enjoy it anymore.
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>>2245082
>You can't just give up on a series because of a shitty ending
Why not?
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>>2245082
>You can't just give up on a series because of a shitty ending.
Yes, you can.
For me when the story pulls "it was all fiction/dream/in character's head" bullshit it's like the number 1 thing it can do to make me hate it.. And this game seemingly does it twice, first when it claims the previous games in the series never happened and second time when it reveals no one is really what they were introduced as and all their story/memories etc is fabricated
And that's beside the fact I was already annoyed about the protagonist bait and switch and the fact despite previous leaks it seems it doesn't even lead to anything and the girl dies for nothing.

So yeah, if the author's goal was to sour people on the series it sure worked on me.
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At least DRv3 is gay as fuck

Himiko legit crushes on Tenko
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>>2246252
>gay as fuck
>kills the potential a female protagonist would give
> game ends with self insert protagonist and the two most popular girls between otakus, clearly made as pandering to waifufags

You have shit standards, anon. Also, if Himiko really crushes on Tenko, it's all fabricated for the views, anyway. In fact, even if they had canon yuri, it would be meaningless. Probably they would make a joke about how they were baiting the yuri audience.
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>>2246405
Beat me to it.
Even killing off the female protagonist and replacing her with Yet Another Shitty Male Self Insert-kun is on it's own unforgivable.
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>>2246405
Yeah, but...

The whole game's message is how these events mattered, regardless of the circumstances.
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>>2246232
I am glad I accidentally got spoiled on /u/. I'm definitely not buying the game now. Just...

I'm so hurt. The messages were always really uplifting and made me feel strongly. I love experiencing that. I don't like series where most characters die and generally avoid them like plague. It took my best friend MONTHS to make me watch the anime, and even more time to her play DR2 because of the emotional roller coaster. The resolution felt so good. Even the first one had an uplifting message after all the horrible things that happened. This... this does not.

After Island mode in DR2, I was really looking forward to having half the females still being interested in the MC. Even if it wasn't the "canon pair", it was still... nice to have so much representation, you know? And there could have been so many wonderful pairs. My hopes and dreams were shattered immediately. Everything I'm reading here is just strengthening my resolve to not even bother. It's a damn shame because DR1 and DR2 were so fucking good.
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Worse of all, the game sold pretty well, best opening in the series. That's not bad in a "Japanese have shit taste!!" way, because most people who brought it probably thought Kaede was the protagonist, since DR is the kind of series most people won't spoil themselves. But that's sad because it shows how changing the protagonist gender wouldn't hurt sales at all (maybe even helped), but no one will consider that now.

And I can see they making a female protagonist in the next game, because the backlash is strong. But now is late. Next game will sell like shit regardless of quality, just like happened to Tales of, even though the last game is considered one of the best.

I hate Kodaka.
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Did Japanese fans want to play as a girl?
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>>2248166
I know Berseria had some rough opening days because Zestiria was so shit but I also heard the sales picked up in later weeks after people realized it's actually good?
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>>2248166
>>2248287
The funny part is that Saihara and Rose have the same seiyuu.
>>2248183
Right now they're more pissed about the ending than anything else.
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>>2248183
More like, they didn't mind playing as one. I'm sure some wanted, I saw some reviews on Amazon talking about "betraying expectations", and since they avoid spoilers there, it's easy to see what they're talking about. But I guess that most people who were pissed off about Kaede just kept playing. And then at the end, they had an even bigger reason to hate the game.
Well, I can see the backlash will be bigger on west. I still see people saying they're excited for finally having a female protagonist in the series...it's just sad.

>>2248287
Second week was still weak, and then it didn't show up in the media crate anymore. So even if it kept selling, I doubt it's selling as well as the last games.
It's sad when we stop to think that Namco actually took Baba out after Zestiria and the new producer has nothing to do with Zestiria at all. The guy is suffering backlash for something he didn't even do.

>>2248295
>The funny part is that Saihara and Rose have the same seiyuu.

More and more I get convinced that this game is a intentional joke.
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Do they lose their fabricated personalities/identities after they survive?
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>>2248606
No.
True Saihara was an asshole who wanted to commit a cool murder. He would never fight against team Danganronpa.
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>>2248660
So True Saihara actually had an interesting personality that was replaced with generic bitchboi personality? He truly is a shit protag.
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>>2248848
Well...
True Kaede was a cynical girl who thought she would be good on the game because she didn't trust anyone. Fiction Kaede was a cheerful girl who trusted everyone.
There's a guy who was really gently, but actually was a bully in real. The guy who was an evil dictator was actually a leader of a comedic group and only entered the game to bring money to his comrades.
People commented how it seems like their personalities were the exact opposite of what they actually were. Unfortunaly, they didn't show everyone's tape. I would say there's a big chance Tenko was a boy crazy who hated girls, though.

But don't discuss it with people who actually liked the game. They'll say that since the game is about lies, maybe even those tapes are lies. Maybe everything the mastermind said is a lie. What is stupid, since it takes away everything the game was about.
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So they kind of started a new life with their fabricated personalities.
Not sure about her being boy-crazy, but I've heard about Tenko joining because she wanted to meet boys. I kind of want to think she didn't hate girls at all and was just the exact opposite of her "genki girl" personality.
Lots of people who have played the game are claiming that Tenko and Himiko actually became a couple, is this true?
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>>2248901
As far as I know, Tenko, Angie and Himiko were pretty close. But Tenko and Angie die in the same chapter.
I doubt they were a couple. Probably just the same as always.
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>>2248901
Tenko and Himiko aren't a couple. Tenko likes Himiko, but Himiko only views her as a friend. Also, don't believe anything you read about anyone besides Kaede, Kaito, and Saihara. The only audition videos we see belong to those three, anything about what the rest were like before the game is just guessing based off of that.
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>>2248913
So basically another Ibuki/Mahiru/Hiyoko/Mikan situation?
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>>2248901
Wait for someone who has actually finished the whole game to answer questions. The information you get from people who haven't actually finished, or even played the game, are sometimes false
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>>2248926
Pretty much.
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>>2248901
Their feelings were mutual but they never dated, so they're not canon.
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http://official-kodaka.tumblr.com/post/152024119381/doubelieveinunicorns-doubelieveinunicorns

http://official-kodaka.tumblr.com/post/152151656161/is-kyoko-really-a-lesbian

http://official-kodaka.tumblr.com/post/154558483721/kirigiri-family-is-she-lesbian-or-japanese

From the creator himself. What does /u/ think? And does this mean Celegiri actually happened?
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>>2249483
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>>2249166
Does that make them subtext?
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>>2249523
Subtext is when both of the girls' feelings aren't explicitly stated but heavily hinted to be romantic, so no, they're not just subtext.
But they aren't canon either.
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>>2249531
I've always assumed they were exclusive categories
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>>2249483
Just because the url says 'official' it doesn't mean it's the real deal.
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>>2249745
No, that is Kodaka's blog.
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>>2249748
The actual writer of a Japanese visual novel series has an English blog on which he acts and speaks like a typical tumblrtard?
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>>2250283
And not even on twitter, rather on tumbler. Does anyone from Japan even know what tumbler is? Does tumbler have verified accounts?
Smells like bullshit to me.
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>>2250283
>>2250360
Fuck, was being a retard. Seemed so real when I was drinking.
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>>2250360
>Does anyone from Japan even know what tumbler is?

Some do, actually. New Game's mangaka has a tumblr, for example.
But of course, this Kodaka is obviously fake. I thought anon was just joking about it.
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