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Elsacest Edition.

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>>2122059

I don't know much about her actual personality but I know her motivations. The story changed several times, but the one I go with is that she was ostrasized for having her powers due to the prophecy (and probably general fear). She was also outspoken and adventerous but was told that wasn't proper behavior for a princess; that she needed to be meek and polite. This caused her to become bitter and temperamental. She and Anna grew apart as they grew up for some reason. I'm not certain what it was from the context of "We Know Better" or anything else I've seen. It could have been they envied each other too much (Elsa wishing she could be popular and free-spirited like Anna, Anna wishing she was elegant like Elsa) or it could be due to their parents trying to get Anna to behave more formally so it will rub off onto Elsa and that creating a difference in their relationship.

>Queen: Anna, if you love your sister you're going to need to lead by example.
>King: The kingdom is relying on you.
>Anna: Yes, father.
>King: Your sister is your burden as well.

Afterwards they're shown doing elegance training.
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>>2122349

In the last part of "We Know Better" there's a clear drift between the sisters. Anna is obsessed with romance and boys while Elsa couldn't clear less. Elsa sings the last "But we know better..." on her own, because Anna does not agree with her anymore.

In "We Know Better" Elsa is described as bold, cold hearted, and uncontrollable by nearby viillagers. This means she's definitely not quiet or docile like the current Elsa but villagers likely only see her at her worst or are spouting rumors. Her similarly-aged teenage peers also think she's a "freak". Elsa apparently attacks one of them for calling her that (nothing major, probably just throwing some snow at them or something). In "Cool With Me" Elsa sings about how she's abandoning her identity as "Elsa" to become "the Snow Queen". She says that people feared her so she's going to change that into worship by force. Anna doesn't agree with her sister and the song has them arguing.
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>>2122350

It's also shown that Elsa is violent. She freezed the guests at Anna's wedding and later freezes Anna's heart purposely (that's probably where that concept art of onion!Elsa doing something to Anna comes from). I don't know what freezing her heart does though. It couldn't have been lethal. Elsa doesn't seem like the type to commit fraticide plus I remember hearing she just wanted Anna to understand her plight more. Or maybe it was lethal and Elsa didn't realize it.

Anna in "We Know Better" and "Cool With Me" is clearly the popular sister while "More Than Just A Spare" reverses that. They're likely from two different versions of the story however I like to mix them up in my stories, as I find it more interesting. Elsa has her fans but is often seen as something terrifying and is ostrasized, while Anna is the more outgoing and popular sister but is not respected like Elsa and is in her sisters shadow.

So, basically, onion!Elsa is more bitter and angry than pure evil. She's not some psuedo-gothic anti-Elsa either. She has similar qualities to Elsa but vents in rage instead of anxiety and depression. She doesn't conceal, she feels vividly.
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>>2122368
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Guess a promise is a promise.
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I'm gonna have to limit it to one pic per artist tho. My hug folder could fill up two threads.
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Wow didn't see those ugly cowtits in the thumbnail. Sorry, they really ruin the picture.
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Alright, will dump more in a few days.
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This is from an official book.
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>>2124011
OH MY GOD
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>>2124042
Reminder that Marisol has a teeny tiny nose
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>>2124042
That's not Marisol, that's some degenerate tumblr fantasy.
I want Marisol instead.
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>>2123027
That's so cute it's disgusting.

<<<Drift with your sister, find out she has feelings for you, fight giant monsters even better due to lesbian incest power.
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>>2124722
Lewdfencer is truly a prince among lesbians.
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That one made me laugh.
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>>2122357
Hmm. Might make for a delicious AU.
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>>2122357
Well this is further in-depth than anything I've ever seen regarding Onion, thanks so much anon! Please take this cute for your trouble.
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Does anyone know about an Elsanna fanfic where Anna would be a maid? I think I read something like that a while ago.
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I rewatched Frozen for the first time in a year and, dang, I forgot how accidentally gay it seems. The whole pre-Hanna coronation scene and the scene where Anna sees Elsa in her ice dress are just really romantically tinged.
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>>2129088
If only there was a cut that ditched the tacked-on het.
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>>2129089
Which fic should Disney use to retcon Frozen and make it straight up gay?
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>>2130541
Go big or go home. They should use Princesses of Queen Elsa's Court.

Also, update for that WHEN? Or it's fully dead?
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>>2130557
It wasn't even good, sis. Typical immature /co/ drivel.
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>>2130758
No but I must admit the idea of Elsa having a harem composed of other Disney Princesses is not something I can ignore.
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>>2130541
Cakefic.
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>>2130970
You mean Forkanna.
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>>2131110
Actually I'm referring to "Min Soster [sic] Bursdagskake" by Jessica-X. Forkanna is her tumblr.
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>>2131346
You mean MANFACE.jpg?
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All the Elsanna fics that get updated lately are modern AU, usually unrelated AU, works. It's annoying.

I recently remembered how popular Jelsa is with the target audience. I am one of the few people on here who still watches AMVs as an adult, and I have noticed an embarrassing amount of Jelsa. Literally every Non/Disney video involving Elsa is either Elsa/Jack or inexplicably Elsa/Flynn. I also noticed AO3 and FF have a lot of Jelsa fics I never noticed because I avoid them.

Would Jelsa be bad if Jack were female? I know a oneshot fic like that on Ao3 and I don't know. Jack is pretty dang boring even as a chick.
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>>2124011
man, you guys really are desperate
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>>2132388
>Would Jelsa be bad if Jack were female
Yes, it would still be bad, but it would at least be relevant to my interests.
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>>2132392
Desperate nothing they know what they're doing.
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>tfw no genderswapped!Hans x Elsa fics

I normally hate Helsa but genderswapped!Hans is even hotter than normal Hans plus I like the hate dynamic between them.
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>>2134163
Pls go and stay go. Dont ever mention this abomination again.
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>>2134163
Fuck off.
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>>2134163
yeah, really. fuck off
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>>2134959

What'd I say? Helsa is pretty bad on default but can be done fine if Hans is not redeemed... And, you know, if he's female.
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>>2135809
Hans can only be redeemed by nonexistence.
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>>2135809
Hans is a shitstain no matter whether it's a male or female. Pairing it with Elsa also makes as much sense as pairing Oaken with Agdar. I'd sooner see Elsa fucking Kai than female Hans.
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>>2138578

No one said anything about sex or even an actual romance. I just dig the idea of romantic tension underneath a large, large, large amount of unending hatred for each other. They'd never work out as a couple. I keep on seeing these anons on /co/ try to push Helsa but I think they're just into it because they hate Elsa being with a woman more than anything.
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I always hear people complain about Elsanna but it's one of the few incest ships that make sense. Elsa and Anna have had little interaction with each other since they were little kids. I've heard genetic sexual attraction is a phenomenon that appears when relatives don't develop a proper familial bond that causes them to not see each other as romantic interests. It's basically their parents fault that their daughters are really gay for each. If they had not been kept apart then they probably wouldn't seem so flirty. I don't like to consider them complete strangers though. They just don't know each other well.

On that topic though, can Elsanna coexist with Snow Sisters? Like, can they love each other in both a sisterly and a romantic way or one overpower the other? I have seen fanfics pull the "I can't see you as a sister" angle and I don't like that.
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>>2138719
> have seen fanfics pull the "I can't see you as a sister"
Pardon me?
>can Elsanna coexist with Snow Sisters?
Doesn't it by default? They're sisters and lovers.
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>>2138735

It's exactly what I read. Many fics have Elsa and Anna acknowledge their biological relationship but say that since they have been estranged for so long, they have trouble viewing each other as siblings. On the other note, many fics act like they cannot feel both familial affection and romantic affection.
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>>2138944
>they cannot feel both familial affection and romantic affection
They should just marry, no better way to become a family again!
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Last thread someone posted merchandise that had an Elsanna lean. This wasn't posted though.
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Oh for fucks sake thats not even remotely subtle.
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>>2139497
How is anyone supposed to not take this as implying gay?
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>>2140416
Wait, we aren't supposed to take it as obviously gay?
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>>2140430
It certainly seems like we are - and why not?
As our two favorite leading ladies say in Frozen Ever After,
"Hot and cold are both so intense, put them together and it just makes sense!"
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>>2138611
HE doesn't have to end up together for it to be a shitstain. How many times does that need to be repeated for you to understand? They have zero attraction for each other, not even the "I hate you so much you're the focus of my life" way like Kigo. Hans' opponent is Anna. She's the one who is fixated on him even after everything had been resolved, going as far as fantasizing an angry Elsa killing him to revenge her while saying how much she loves her little sister (A Frozen Heart book). Elsa didn't pay him any more mind than, say, Kristoff and everyone else in the kingdom.

HE is as reaching as KE and Hansoff. Wait. Hansoff actually makes more sense than both of those, seeing how Kristoff was actually the one who wanted to go punch Hans, while Elsa just stood there idly to watch Anna. So the enemy tension between them are bigger there. Go ship fem!Hansoff.
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Any good fanfic where they have a kid?
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>>2142920
How I Met Your Mother.
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>>2142920
You're asking for the holy grail
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>>2139497
I can't get over the one that had the "A sister is just a girlfriend you choose for yourself" line
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Someone on Tumblr mentioned seeing a sitcom where two characters were discussing gay people with their kids. Frozen came up and the dad was gonna say he thought Elsa and Anna were lesbians before being shut up by their mum. The poster didn't say what sitcom it was, but if that scene actually happened it's funny to see more mainstream writers saying the obvious.
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>>2143080
Honest Trailers is close enough to mainstream, and his Maleficent trailer makes a reference to the gay in Frozen.
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>>2124415
fighting monsters with the power of gay. I want it
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>>2143667
>$45

What the fuck?
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>>2144018
probably mex pesos
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>>2143094
>gay in Frozen
Did they refer to the idea of Elsa as a lesbian or the much more patrician idea of lesbian incest?
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>>2144186
It's something like
>and since it came after Frozen, to Disney the only True Love is that between 2 women
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>>2143080
I mean it's probably not the show you're talking about but there was this one scene in Jane The Virgin in which one woman had twins named Elsa and Anna and someone was like "Oh Elsa and Anna, sisters! Like in Frozen" and their mom was like "No. Not like that."
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>>2144000
I don't like it when people draw the freckles on Anna's face like brown spots on a banana
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>>2144421
I makes it seem like she has some kind of disease.
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>>2143080
I vaguely remember that post. For some reason I remember it as the tumblr USER who was watching a sitcom with their parents when the homo came onscreen, and the user's dad was the one who thought Elsanna were lesbians. I seriously doubt any mainstream tv series would even hint at Elsanna incest even as a joke, and if they did it would be VERY subtle. C'mon, do you really think any big production company is gonna chance Disney getting up in arms and coming after them for defamation or something?

>>2143094
Mainstream tv and mainstream internet/youtube are very different things.

>>2144410
That joke had nothing to do with incest or lesbians. The punchline was that the mother and father had zero idea what Frozen was, and the names were a complete coincidence.

The show does have actual lesbians in it though (we all love Bridget Regan here, right?), and its utterly overly dramatic (it IS a telenovela) yet heartwarmingly delightful.
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>>2144421
Whatever do you mean?
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>>2144624
>dat smirk
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>>2144624
Holy shit those freckles are nonsense.
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>>2144541

Wrong post. It was as I said.
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>>2144624
at that point it's time to check for cancer
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>>2144624

Freckly Anna doesn't bug me. Freckleless Elsa does however. I know they're very light but come on. 99% of fanartists ignore her freckles.
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>>2146403
There is a considerable gulf between freckles and a skin disease.
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I remember reading this one fanfic where a guard catches Elsa and Anna. I didn't realize it was an adaptation until I found the comic.

Now that I think about it, I've read two different fics with that plot. Four if I count ones where their secret is revealed to the public and bad stuff happens. Five if it is revealed posthumously.
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>>2154301
Argos? The fic was first, OS-DA drew the comic later.
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Well this place is dead.
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Why exactly is Elsa such a bottom in pretty much every fanfic ever? Is it because of what they say about people in powerful postions or because her anxious and meek persona?

>>2156599

I don't feel like dumping art but I visit every day to see if new posts exist. The fanfic community is pretty steady on Ao3 on FF tbqh. The fandom isn't dead at all, just this thread.
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>>2157604
Because tumblr thinks a person in position of power must be submissive in other aspects of life, because, I don't know, variety or whatever. It's dumb.
>The fanfic community is pretty steady on Ao3 on FF tbqh
Last time I checked most of the fics were either retarded or crap (or both), with very few exceptions. But to be fair it probably always was like that, and my tolerance for bullshit had not yet reached its limit back when Frozen was still fresh.
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>>2157604
Probably because of the introvert/extrovert thing, and possible a desire to emphasize that Elsa, who is more powerful and older, isn't taking advantage of Anna.
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>>2157604
The above responses seem accurate. Also, a reverse power dynamic, where the more submissive partner takes the leadership in sex, seems to be a turn-on for many.
For me, I prefer the "you won't need anything more than what I can give you" type of relationship. In the case of Elsa and Anna I find such a dynamic especially attractive between them because of their lovely Queen/Princess combination, and somehow even more so because they are ostensibly sisters.
Here the taboo factor is high, and yet such a relationship would not hurt anyone. It is also interesting to think about how even if this weren't a fairy tale situation it could be safer for them to be close partners with one another than to bring in others, at least if Elsa is to remain in power as ruler of the land.
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>>2157911

I have yet to see a gay ship where Elsa is a top a majority of the time.
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I read a good Elsa/OC fic a few weeks ago that I can't remember the name of. All I remember is that it involved an aristocrat from another country coming to live in Arendelle. I wish Fanfiction had a way vacation to weed out the Elsa/m!Oc stories but they don't.
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I'm pretty sure it was linked either here or in the fic thread.
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>>2157604
Anna is always the one who keeps knocking on Elsa's door. She has a more aggressive and outgoing personality, while Elsa is more reserved. Most of the movie was basically just Anna pursuing Elsa.
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>>2157604
Ice logic. Elsa is hard and cold, but once Anna starts to warm her up, she melts.
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>>2122349
whos the person with black hair?
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>>2162183
Onion elsa
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According to pixiv that one is futa.
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It is. I'm surprised it hasn't been deleted already.
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>>2162552
I know there's a story to go with these but I remember someone mentioning how they would've liked to see this scenario be that Anna caught Elsa watching lesbian porn involving a red head and a blonde.
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>>2162571
>It is.
Sadly.
OS-DA, why.
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>>2163356
Probably on drugs or something. She's allowed one fuck up when the rest of her stuff is so great.
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>>2163440
>that linework
hnng.
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>>2157604
>Why exactly is Elsa such a bottom in pretty much every fanfic ever? Is it because of what they say about people in powerful postions or because her anxious and meek persona?
The second. Strong, powerful, dominant Elsa is weird and ooc, where as Anna would make a good loving dom who just wants to have lots and lots of fun with her big sister.
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Lewdfencer showing that boss Elsa is best.
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I remember an artist on Deviantart had some good fanart of Snow Queen x Anna from before Elsa's finalized design was leaked. Back when we all thought she was using the not-Elphaba one with long hair and a snowflake crown.

Man, that was a nice design. I've written a fic about that ship but never published it. It was my first Frozen fic too.
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>>2175563
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Even if Elsa doesn't get married to Marisol next film, I still hope they keep her ambiguously gay. That seems like the safest bet if they don't outright confirm it.
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>>2177358
Just like in my japanese animes
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>>2179477
Oh, you.
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>>2177358
What if she comes out as asexual?
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Is there any decent raceplay in Frozen fics? Like Princess Tiana being a maid/slave of Elsa and serving the two sisters?
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>>2179523
Then tumblr wins.
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>>2179523
Haha, that would be a conundrum!
I think 3/4s of post-teen Frozen fans would feel disappointed.
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>>2179523

That's extremely hard to confirm. The closest they could say if her saying she has no interest in romance, which pins her as aromantic. I would honestly prefer her as homoromantic so I can still ship her with cute ladies. And Anna. Belle too. Esmeralda works fine as well, so does Ariel... Really, most Disney girls work well with Elsa. I have even seen her with Cinderella.

>>2179525

There's a Marisol fic iirc.

>>2179710

Tumblr wants her to be gay, not ace.
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Mommy, buy me a New notebook
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Apparently Moana has water powers. I see Moana/Elsa fics a mile away. Move over Merida.
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>>2162183

Elsa. Too lazy to find the concept art, but it's her near finalized design from back when she was still the main antagonist. In actuality, the finalized design was a platinum blonde but most fanartists prefer using the previous black colored version (the artists thought of making Elsa a raven to better contrast her with the blonde Anna).
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>>2183438
Move over nothing she's just another girl to add to the harem.
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>>2183779

'Never seen Jasmine paired with Elsa besides there.
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>>2122350

To specify the mentioned lyrics in the full version of "We Know Better" (which wasn't on the CD, only the first portion was):

>Anna: They say a princess will one day meet her prince
>Anna: She must enhance her beauty
>Elsa: And maybe try some mints
>Anna: They say he'll have royal blood in every vein, with noble brow and chiseled face
>Elsa: And a microscopic brain
>Anna: They say he'll come along one day
>Elsa: With royal inbred DNA
>Anna: And change your life in every way
>Elsa: But we know better

I really wanna see the full version sung somewhere. I doubt Disney will officially do it. They only put the cute, fluffy part on CD. I am pretty sure the reprise was removed because of the incest joke and overall darkness of it. It doesn't fit in with the current version of the characters at all so they didn't officially record it for the CD. I haven't found fan recordings either sadly; most don't even realize it's from the villain!Elsa days.
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Is the Elsanna Tumblr tag active anymore? I can't really find much when searching recent results, and the popular posts comes up with a lot of reposts from a year ago or basically people complaining about people who hate "problematic ships". Also a lot of solo Elsa and solo Anna tagged as Elsanna.
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>>2185217
The search feature on tumblr is shit. What you wanna do is go directly to the tags URL. The fandom is pretty slow now, mostly a handful of dedicated ficcers and such. It seems the days of plentiful, high-quality content is past us. Perhaps once Frozen 2 comes out there'll be a resurgence.
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What are /u/'s theories on Frozen 2?

There are quite a few theories floating around that Elsa and Rapunzel are twins because of magic and hair colour, and that Elsa was sent to Arendelle because Rapunzel was kidnapped. While I think that's complete bullshit, it would allow normies to ship Elsanna without being afraid of lesbian incest between two fictional cartoon characters. Since there's no Tangled sequel on the horizon, I could see see Disney linking the two storylines somehow.
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>>2186101
There is a Tangled animated series coming though. Glad they went with blonde barefoot Punzie.

Maybe a crossover soon?
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>>2186107
Anon I want you to think carefully about what you posted and the relevance it has to the thread.
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>>2186111
What? Anon mentioned no Tangled 2 in the future. I presented a possible reason for that and hope for Frozen Tangled crossover since they exist in the same world.

Was that wrong?
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>>2186101
Oh yeah I remember seeing a video about that theory. At the time, I mean as I was watching, it seemed to make perfect sense but then when you really think about it, it doesn't, not really.
Another theory is of course Ana getting fire powers or something and that will be part of the main conflict of the movie. Well, whatever, I don't know why Disney is taking so long with the sequel and keeping things under wraps. The longer they make people wait, the higher their expectations will get and that's never a good thing. Of course everyone will go see the movie, still, because it's Frozen 2, but something tells me it will fail to please or make up for the long wait.
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>>2179523
I prefer that to them throwing some dude at her.
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>>2186101
Why would Rapunzel's parents willingly deprive themselves of their only remaining direct heir, with apparently no intention of getting her back? Why would they still be heartbroken over Rapunzel's kidnapping and then never even mention Elsa? Why would the king of Arendelle leave his kingdom to a freak ward instead of his own daughter? If Anna and Elsa are both adopted, why did they insist on adopting girls?
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>>2186185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhf9dekzyq4
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>>2183779
>that conqueror elsa
I don't think I've seen a fic about that that didn't get stupid with the quickness.

Though I can't really remember more than a handful existing.
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>>2186197
I only read one unfinished fic and Elsa didn't mind getting touchy feels with some male characters.

How hard is it to write a conqueror Elsa fic where she's unabashedly a lesbian?
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>>2186243
I've read one. Elsa being some sort of "fuck em and leave em" womanizer. I didn't like it.
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>>2186101
Marisol visits and kisses Elsa. The plot is irrelevant as long as that happens
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>>2186101

Tell Mat Pat to shove his weird theories somewhere. That's barely a theory at that and is very non-canon. Elsa is literally a mini version of her mom. Also, one of the official books had Elsa's and Anna's birth notices which clearly had them both as Idunn and Adgar's biological daughters.

I have no theories for Frozen 2. There doesn't seem like there's much to do. They could always reuse plots from the books, such as meeting Hans' family and rekindling bonds with the Southern Isles or having Anna recover her memories.
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>>2186101

And, fyi, it would do nothing to "normies" since it's still lesbian incest. They're still sisters in all but blood, and tbqh they'd probably canonize Rapunzel as Anna's and Elsa's cousin and thus it'd be both sibling and cousin incest.

>>2186107

Crossover never. Elsa didn't even appear in Sofia the First--Olaf did. I just want an offhand message about Idunn and Adgar but even that's too much to ask for. Especially if it canonizes the fanon that they died going to Rapunzel's marriage.
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I thought Frozen took place like 80 years after Tangled? Or did I read some insane fan theory and accidentally accept it as canon
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>>2186414
No, I think it was in the "art of" books that it said that, at least when it comes to clothing, Tangled and Frozen were influenced by the late 1700s and 1840s respectively. Also, it says 1840 in Roman numerals on the map in Frozen Fever.
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>>2186414
>>2186581
Tangled has been placed in the 1780s or so by the directors at least, and Frozen in the 1840s by the art book and the map in Frozen Fever. So approx 60 years of difference or thereabouts, so even if they existed in the same universe Rapunzel would be in her 80s by the time of the events of Frozen.

Rapunzel and Flynn visiting the coronation was just an easter egg, like Goofy and Donald being in the underwater concert crowd in the Little Mermaid, or the Hans statue in the garden Baymax blows up in BH6. Disney does them in every movie.
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>>2186753
You've never heard of the Tangled hair theory? I have seen it used to explain just such discrepancies. Rapunzel's magical healing hair keeps both her and Flynn eternally young.

"But she cut off her hair!" you may say.

There's hair in more places than just on the head.

And additionally, if the Tangled series is to be considered canon, her blonde hair grows back after the movie ends anyway.
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>>2186414

It does. However Rapunzel and Flynn did appear at Elsa's cornonation, so screw timelines. It was juat a cameo but fans took it as canon. Rapunzel still could be related to Elsa but more as a great-aunt or something. Either that or Tangled takes place in the 1840s now.
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>>2186879

The theory is that Rapunzel is functionally immortal, not Eugene. I have heard some also theorize that Elsa is immortal but Frozen Fever at least showed us that she's able to get ill.
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>>2187013
>Eugene isn't immortal
What if he regularly ate Punzy's hair?
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>>2187107
Hope he chokes on it
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>>2186879
>spoiler
Anon please. Punzie is pure, she doesn't have any body hair.
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>>2187286

Punzy is an adult and adults are supposed to have body hair. It takes place before people began shaving their hair anyway.

>>2186879

The show takes place between Tangled and Tangled Before Ever. I presume the final episode will have her cutting her hair, thus why her hair still looks so untrimmed atvher wedding after years.

>>2186276

>tfw so little Marielsa works

I wish this fandom was half as into merchandise as the TLK fandom is. No one really cares about the books.
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>>2187709
>frozen merchendise and books
I only care when it has to do with Elsanna.
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Did someone say Elsanna?
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>>2187714

....Which are? The merchandise is full of cute sisterly fluff. Tbqh, I am more interested in learning about the books without having to actually buy them. I know a crap ton about Kopa and Tojo and all that jazz without reading a lick of their comics/books, but the Frozen fandom has no such luck. I am pretty sure Elsa has told Anna about the accident and I know a bit about Marisol but that's it.
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Does /u/ have a scans of Frozen #2 comic ??

I hear there a tons of Elsanna story inside.
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Is that the one where Elsa makes the giant heart of ice for Anna? I have seen scans posted.
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>>2188660
>makes the giant heart of ice for Anna
Disney in charge of not being gay as fuck.
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>>2188660

Nope, i heard that Elsa & Anna sleeping together in igloo.

Yes, sleeping together.
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>>2188795
does anyone else feel like elsa is one of those dependent/clingy girlfriends
not saying thats a bad thing, just pointing something i found interesting
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>>2188795
>just to let Anna know that I LOVE her
Disney is hilarious.
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>>2188851
stuff like this, i wonder if people should create a new word for platonic love /or for romantic love to avoid any confusion. Now that i think about it, in most languages there is only one word for both platonic and romantic "love"
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>>2188512

Ask people who live in USA

Those comic is only avaialble on USA
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>>2188807
Maybe a bit. I've yet to see a fic working with that though.
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>>2189009

No, they're European. Disney rarely releases comics in America.

>>2188807

Someone on /co/ made a good post about this a few weeks ago. I don't remember the details, but Elsa certainly has heavy dependency issues brought on by her upbringing and anxiety. She is afraid Anna rejecting or replacing her.
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>>2188886
You can always be a pretentious ass and use the Greek words.
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>>2189141

The publisher is Joe Books & only available in USA & Canada
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Disney is hard set on making live action adaptations of pretty much every highly successful film they have ever made. At this rate they will make a Frozen film before 2025... Would it be awkward to ship Elsanna if they were in live action form? I always found it uncomfortable to ship characters in live action.
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>>2189369
Not if they finally make it gay themselves.
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>>2189379
This. The gritty live action version of Frozen will have all the sex, violence and incest we could dream of.
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>>2189385
They shat the bed with Once Upon A Time already.
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>>2189385

How do you make Frozen violent and sexual while keeping the canon story? There's no instance for sex unless you're implying someone abused Elsa when she was shackled. I would have no issue with a retelling with a lot more depressed Elsa though. Maybe add suicidal ideations and self harm into the deal while you're at it.

>>2189458

Completely different writers.
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>>2189505
just make elsa and/or anna mistake the true love thing so they fug
the violence can be against hans or those 2 bodyguards during the castle fight
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>>2189505
Their life action movie remakes often aren't always very truthful to the original canon. Malificent for example had a huge ass fantasy battle with knights and monsters in the beginning, despite no such thing being present in the animated sleeping beauty version.
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Instead of reading shitty fanfics, do yourself a favor & scan the Frozen comics by joe books for us will you ??

2 issues is already out since June but no one has scanned it. No one.
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Marisol/Elsa is so good. There's so little fanart though, and even fewer fanfics.

>>2190274

Maleficient is nothing like the other Disney live action adaptations. It's clear that it inspired the franchise however I wouldn't say Maleficient is even in the same line as Mulan, Beauty and the Beast, etc. It's not a direct adaptation like the others. It's a complete AU. To be honest, I wish the other series were radical AUs like Maleficient instead of just slightly more realistic adaptations.
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>>2190327
But I love shitty fanfics and have no money
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>>2190499
>Marisol/Elsa is so good.
Elaborate
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whats the name of that one fic with elsa being in a mental asylum or some shit. was fairly popular iirc
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>>2194497
A Snowflake in Spring?
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>>2187709
But Ranpunzel lost the blonde hair way before the epilogue.
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>>2194606
yeah thats it
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>>2190538

If you live on US, you can just buy it for $3 & scan it for us who dont live on US
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wtf? they're sisters, you weirdos....
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>>2197440
Hmm...
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>>2197440
Looks like someone's a little lost.
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>>2197440
made me giggle. thanks for the trip down nostalgia lane anon. i do so miss the early frozen generals
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>>2197440
>they're sisters
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>>2197440
Are you serious man? All this time I thought they were girls.
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Im starting to get annoyed when a official story didnt get get scanned.
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>>2197440

Well, duh! Strangers are too risky to love and wed. Best keep those things in the family.
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A Disney-approved coloring book...
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>>2213184
They're not even trying anymore.

They should just remake that infamous brother sister commercial but have it be with Elsa and Anna already.
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>>2213498
I think I saw Elsanna fanart of that once
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>>2213511
I bet you did.
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>>2213518
And I think I read a fic about it once too
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>>2213518
This made my Christmas thank you!

The artist even got that smile that's shy but also screams "we're gonna fuck".
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>>2213519
There's actually a tag for folgers commercial on archive of our own and one fix one both ao3 and fanfiction.

I'm impressed but not surprised.
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>>2213518
There was another. Let me see if I can find it.
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>>2213511
>>2214052
Found it.
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>>2213184
>can we fuck please?
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>>2213523
>>2213498
The Folgers fic was one of the first 6 Elsanna fics on AO3, about a week after the movie came out.
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>>2214441
Truly a blessing.
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>Sleeping
>Hug each other while sleeping
>Suddenly cut into the next day

You lesbian lover gotta love this comic.
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>>2214656
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>>2214658
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>>2214656
>>2214658
>>2214660
Sort of ruined by the dumb, ugly mascot.
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>>2214803
It rose from the grave

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10074149/29/A-Snowflake-in-Spring
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>>2214807
Why?
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>>2214803

If they remove olaf, the age rating of those comic will be increased.
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>>2214803
They needed that thing there or else kids will get the wrong idea.
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>>2214874
What if he's there because otherwise Kristoff might get the right idea?
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>>2214886
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>>2214901
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>>2214902
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>>2214803
It was so disturbing that I had to fix it. Someone skilled could do a better job, though.
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>>2215159
Disney is taking a considerable risk especially if the rumors are true, they honestly don't want Anna and Elsa to be "that close" at this point. Also Anna is ultimately striaght.
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I think Olaf is their love child.
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>>2215179

This comic strips is pretty risky if they removie Kristoff & Olaf
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>>2215193
All of the merchandise is like this they know exactly what they're doing.

The writers and artists who work on shows just love to try to get away with as much as possible. Or so I hear at least. I know a lot of writers on modern shows like to encourage their fans to get weird.
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>>2215193
I wonder if the comic artist has been some russian lady all along who genuinely believes they're gay and has been drawing so since the beginning.
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>>2215582
I never thought I'd see Disney called SJW on /u/, that seems like a /co/ thing.
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>>2215582
They're less SJW and more just ultra-safe and boring. They won't do anything until it's been "normalised" for 25 years.
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>>2215188
What if Olaf was a girl?
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>>2215615
Now you have me trying to think of a sexy female Olaf and I don't know if I can do it.
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>>2215582
You have two homos in the new Star Wars, and its technically a kids movie.
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>>2215193
You called?
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>>2215691
Seriously Disney?
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>>2215698
They always target the comics to several demographics.
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>>2215582
>hopefully

Get off this board, faggot.
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>>2215691
A moose can only be so happy when he knows he's doing the god's handy work of delivering lesbians for their date.
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>>2215707
Her? Who's her?
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Merry Christmas, my sweet!!
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>>2215611
You can tell it's not someone from the board because of that.
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>>2221827
Anna, duh.
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>>2186265
I'd still read it.

Hopefully someone knows what fic this anon was talking about.
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>>2142920

Feel Don't Conceal on FFNet. In the epilogue chapters they have several kids.

Its sister story Our Fight Is Not Over (the Frozen/100 crossover) also has Elsa and Anna and their kids, although it's not finished.
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>>2163440
wait a second. That looks like KnKL's art style.
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>>2229045
It's by OS-DA.

http://os-da.tumblr.com/
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>>2216492
He's a reindeer.
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Hand over all your Elsanna marriage pics and no one gets hurt.
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>>2228695
>Feel Don't Conceal on FFNet.
You got a author for that?
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>>2229307
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>>2229738
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>>2229739
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>>2229741
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>>2229742
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>>2229689

Kurrent is the author for both Feel Don't Conceal and Our Fight Is Not Over. Feel is complete but you don't get Elsa's and Anna's kids until the epilogue chapters. Our Fight is just getting started, but the most recent chapter has three of their kids in it. It's a Frozen/100 crossover, which is weird as fuck, but she seems to have a plan for it. Her biggest drawback is how long she takes between updates.
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>>2229948
Thanks aneue
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i watched Moana the other day and i liked it a lot but damn it reminded me of AFA and how it'll never be finished...
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>>2231117
What about it reminds you of AFA?
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>>2231145
Someone on this board (i think) 2 years back was complaining about AFA's slow updates and joked that AFA wouldn't be finished until Moana came out. Now Moana's theatre run is almost over and we never even got the rest of chapter 20...
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>>2231158
Oh. Feels bad, man.
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Anyone got a fic rec list from back when we had golden Elsanna?

As some anon mentioned, tumblr is a total wreck and AO3's search engine never gets me the really good ones. Argos was on page 3 or something.

Also, Happy New Year!!
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>>2215218
It's all due of marketing. The writers will never reveal Anna and Elsa's sexuality.
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>>2232104
i think there was a rec list on reddit? also i think there's some stories on there that were deleted
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>>2232434
That makes total sense.
Pisneg is in business to make money, which would mostly lead to a perspective of the broader the appeal, the merrier.
Also, sex sells, and unresolved sexual tension can be very hot... probably especially if taboo.

Plus the Frozen Franchise has set up a perfect frame of reference for this fantasy, in that the love shared by Princess Anna and Queen Elsa is pure and true, because family is forever. That leaves them free to do anything suggestive on the screen or in a department store without any genuine grounds for condemnation. I mean, who doesn't want two sisters to have fun adventures together and love one another?
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>>2232104
There were a few posted in these threads, probably in the archive.
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don't worry thread i will save you
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>>2237304
bump
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>>2234322
the parents of the children who watch the movie
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