Senki Zesshou Symphogear

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>>2088950
OP, next time, at least leave some pictures in the thread.

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>>2089030
Dumping best OTP that made me sit through the shite that was S3

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>>2089038

So is HibiMiku an actual thing? I just started, and it doesn't really look like much between them.

>>2089046
Question before you get a proper answer:
Were you dropped on your head a few times as a child, and are now considered the village idiot where you're from?

>>2089046
This happens in literally the second episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnnPqCT-RKs

>>2089048
I just assume everything to be bait so I don't get let down.

>>2089031
>the shite that was S3
I just finished S2, is GX really that bad?

>>2089051
GX doesn't suck. It's got the main villains kissing each other to activate themselves. The problem though is that the season is more or less about the main antagonist and her good-aligned clone as opposed to the actual main characters. Not a lot of HibiMiku if I remember, either, but I haven't watched it in a while. Music is pretty good too.

>>2089053
Not that much HibiMiku, no, but it's got some nice KiriShira and tons of TsubaMari.
If you're only watching the series for Hibiki you probably won't like her character arc in GX that much, but there's plenty of other good stuff.

>>2089058
Yeah, the insert songs for this season were really good. Love Maria's a lot.

>>2089051
Hibiki had a plotline that went full retard. It's okay otherwise.0

>last thread ended discussing Tsubasa's multiple partners/possible ships
>Tsubasa gets a harem spinoff with Kanade, Yukine, and Maria
....I kind of want this now

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>>2089051
Loved badass Hibiki. Adored HibiMiku

S3 comes, Hibiki forgot to be a badass and Miku forgot to exist.

Also too much focus on Maria, the one sympho I hate, so season was less than stellar.

>>2089067
The dad plotlines were retarded for everyone minus Carol. At least her daddy issues connect to why she's so insane.

>>2089067
S1 and S2 each had pivotal moments where Hibiki had a breakthrough near the end of the season that propelled her to victory: working with and saving Miku from the tentacle monster in S1 and saving and being saved by Miku in S2. S3 didn't have this and suffered for neglecting the main relationship of the series.

>>2089075
We always have season 4, assuming they don't drop into rot and introduce some new guys for the girls because that seems like something retarded that might happen.

>>2089064
That subplot and the bizarre pace are its biggest problems. Also the plot could have been done exactly the same without the power creep.

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>>2089075
Nice summation nee-san, couldn't have worded it better.

>neglecting the main relationship of the series
Probably the first time I have ever seen where they forgot to let the main characters be main characters for an entire season.

>>2089080
Nanoha.

>>2088938
Hibiki gets called the husband in the show itself.

Get fucked.

>>2089135
I think the Japanese fans call Nanoha Fate's husband?

>>2089135
Kill yourself. Hibiki is a girl. I know you wish she had a dick but that's just not the case.

>>2089067
Are you me?

>>2089077
Prodcution issue again. At first only Hibiki, Tsubasa and Chris have ignite gears but in the end they decided all of them get ignite gears. The same thing happened in s2. It's supposed that only the main trio will have X Drive gears but due to Agematsu wants to compose Hajimari no Babel they had no choice but to change the scripts. These are mentioned in GX design archive.

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Am I fag if I enjoyed S1 more than sequels? Not to say sequels were bad, but I just love S1 too much I guess.

Tho it was G that delivered best of Bikkie scenes.

My major issues with S1 and S2 are how political they are. Like they kept going on and on about the USA, having American terrorists, and then having the Noise kill a bunch of American navy at their base and later on their ship. Is the writer just really anti-USA?

>>2089448
It's fine, the sequels were bad

>>2089469
No they weren't. Season 2 was so gay, that the HibiMiku meter was destroyed by the end of the season.

>>2089460
Honestly I believe that if other counties had gears and we didn't we'd try some shady shit to get them.

>>2089474
Yeah but in Season 2, we weren't even up to anything. One of my favorite scenes in Season 2 was when Chris picked up the locket, that had a picture of the soldier and his daughter, from one of the dead soldiers, after the Noise attack on the ship, and realized that Americans were humans too with families and loved ones.

>>2089448
>Am I fag if I enjoyed S1 more than sequels
I wish I wasn't such an oldfag when it comes to Symphogear because I've seen this opinion so many times it doesn't even count as an opinion anymore. I guarantee you any sane person would say S1 trumps all.

>>2089460
It's not as if America didn't deserve it. Especially how shitty they've been recently.

>>2089460
No. Kaneko is a big fan of American action, horror, B movies. He's always talking about how fabulous those movies are and used them as references in Wild Arms and Symphogear series. It's his friend, the assistant writer Endo who always writes those kind of "Japan Banzai!" things in the games he made like Liberation Maiden SIN. In Japan some fans are still wondering how many background information were influenced by him. Though some people think maybe it's because that in Hollywood movies US government always acts like villain so he followed the principle.

>>2089479
>S1 trumps all
Except in the art department. S1 sure had some serious QUALITY issues.

>>2089487
My problem with that is that Symphogear already has a ton of villains, that the whole evil US government thing seems even more shoehorned in than usual. We already have the Noise, Fine, Dr. Ver, etc.

>>2089448
They didn't have the nonstop high stakes and entertaining novelty that S1 had through its entire run (after say episode 4). But there are still some well-constructed action and drama moments, and the developing relationships and fun interactions are worth watching.

>>2089495
But the truth is they spent more screentime on the main villains in anime. Those evil US government things were mentioned more specifically in keywords than in the actual shows so I don't think it's a problem.

>>2089501
That's the issue though. They mention them so many times but they don't really do anything. And then in the S1 finale, Genjuro is like "Ah ha! We were working with them the whole time to stop Fine!"

>>2089503
I don't remember Genjuro did such thing in s1 finale. In keywords it's explained Japanese government had no choice but to accept US government's proposal that they work together because China and Russia and other countries complained Japanese government monopolized the reasearch result of relics and Symphogear. And this is all because Fine asked US government to kill that ministrator and replaced a new one who is pro-Americans. That's why in S2E1 they team up with Dr.Ver, who betrayed both sides so quickly.

>>2089516
It's been too long since I watched S1. So take my word on it, I'm probably wrong.

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>>2089340
I wish more people were like us sis.

>>2089448
>>2089479
S1 was a better season but S2 had better HibiMiku so I'd say they are probably on same level of good.

I'm really concerned about the green lit of both S4 and 5 like its a surefire thing. If they think people like Symphogay because of S3, then we're in for a world of shit.

>>2089558
I hope announcing two seasons at once means they can do better job and not just rush through every idea they have. Like "it's a split cour, but we're calling it separate seasons because it's funnier this way" or something.
Maybe I'm just too optimistic.

>>2089568
But most people think it's split cour. There's no chance that King Record gives them enough budget to make 4 cours anime unless they has found more sponsors.

>>2089582
>4 cours
I mean 2 cours 52 episodes.

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>>2089460
I dont see the problem really, USA has sometimes made other countries the villian in their media so i think its only fair that other countries media is allowed to portray the USA in an antagonistic light.
Regardless I dont think the writer is anti-USA, rather is just trying to provide background details about how Symphogear/Relic technology is is being viewed politically by different nations as a lucrative resource and weapon to own. Also if i remember correctly (probably dont) Japan so far has been monopolizing the Gears and Relics which other countries arent happy with, so Japan itself might not be completely good either.

>>2089628
Well I find it odd considering America keep exporting their own relics to Japan for research. Maybe if they weren't so stupid, Japan wouldn't have every relic under the sun.

>>2089879
>America keep exporting their own relics to Japan for research.
Currently only Solomon's Cane was exported from America and US government tried to get it back from Fine after they realized Fine didn't give them a shit. In S2E1 they had their second chance to get it back but Ver already decided to betray them. Gungnir, Ichaival and Nefustan all came from Germany( Ahnenerbe) during WW2.

>>2089892
Plus, didn't America already have the some other relics, like Serena's, prior to S2? So other countries do have a few relics, just not the same amount as Japan.

>>2089999
Yeah. Fine sent some fragments of relic to America/FIS for reasearch and made some of them into gears several years ago. There're many fragments of relic around the world. It's perfect relic like Nehushtan or Solomon's Cane that are rare( both of them were destroyed in s1 and s2 finale though).

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Hibiki and Miku are the mommies and Chris is the baby

Imo GX had a nice beggining, but it started getting worse halfway. I don't like Carol neither her reason to try to destroy the world. Understand more of the world = dissect the world is a huge leap, how can you misunderstand something this much?


>>2089073
3 people with dad issues in one single season, what the hell happened with the producers?

>>2090921
>how can you misunderstand something this much?
She was batshit insane at that point; refer to her last encounter with Ver when she got Garie Eyes. The problem is that the writers didn't SHOW us that, as they were too busy trying to juggle Monster of the Week and the retarded Topdad subplot.

>>2090921
They had dad issues.

>>2090921
>how can you misunderstand something this much?
How can you miss what she said to Elf9 in ep12 that she intended to misinterpret her father's words?

>>2090983
Some people think so because Kaneko's father paassed away on the day of GX premiere. Though father issues is one theme of GX.

>>2091010
One theme of GX? It's literally the only theme of GX. It'd be different if it was primarily about Carol's daddy issues being why she wants to destroy the world, but having three characters have daddy issues clusters up the story. I can't think of one major character getting development in this season. GX is definitely the worst of the seasons, even though it's got nice visuals and good music.

>>2091753
Thank goodness Kirika, Shirabe and Maria are all orphans, so no daddy to have issues with.

>>2091961
>he doesn't realize Ver came back into the plot to give them the surrogate daddy isues

>>2091753
GX was bizarre thematically. The first two seasons were all about whether violent means to make others understand you can be just, to the extent that it seemed to be the series' central theme as a whole, and then suddenly GX decides the main point was going to be how people got on with their dads. Hell, it didn't even have anything to do with the moon.

>>2091982
Everything can be about dads if you are Freud enough. Example: The God Finé wanted to meet, she saw that God as a father figure, etc.

>>2091982
I think that's why GX failed to a lot of people. While not shitty, it didn't feel like Symphogear in the latter half. From the episode where Hibiki saw her dad on, it just started feeling like they needed to force daddy issues in.

>>2091982
It was not so much the theme as it was the heavily episodic, spotlight-of-the-week nature of that season. It's difficult to build the plot when you have to move the plot from one character to another.

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>>2092199
Anyone interested in translating any of this artist's little doujins? They're really good, and quite a few yuri-ish ones aren't even on danbooru. This is one: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=42917806

>>2092018
From the pacing to the characterization, GX was bad in far more ways than just in theme.

>>2092018
The Symphogear Production never really resolved any daddy issues she may have had mostly because it never came up until then. Hibiki was never established to have a concern over that and completed her other character arcs that define her, so the fact that she was confronting it all at once was as much a shock to the viewer as it was to her.

The biggest issue in all of this is the execution. It is just lazy as all hell, trope-checkboxing, and just plain lame, Symphogear usually has some element of drama, but yeah... this seems forced on a character that has been mostly complete.

>>2092960
>this seems forced on a character that has been mostly complete.
IMO it's because the sponsors wanted to make more seasons during s3 production so they had to think some ways to redefine Hibiki's character and her motivation of fighting, which was why they created Carol<-it's been confirmed in the interview that Carol was created to challenge Hibiki's faith.

>haven't seen S3 yet
>sounds like GX is the StrikerS of symphogear
Oh god, does this mean S4 will be Force?

>>2093196
Oh he'll no. It is nowhere near as bad as Strikers. The character bloat it closer to A's for starters, and Hibiki is still the protagonist.

Is there any new info on the new seasons anyway?

>>2093196
Nah, Strikers is actually good, probably the only good Nanoha series, while Sympho S3 is shit.

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This is now a HibiMiku thread.

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>>2093669

Yessssssssss

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>>2093687

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>>2093692
yes indeed.

I just love the voice actors too. They fit each other perfectly.

>tfw you will never be a small japanese school girl in a perfect lesbian relationship with plenty of FWB's

>>2093697
Yes.

Go on.

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>>2093697

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>>2093706

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>>2093709
Chris is an integral part of HibiMiku

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>>2093710
I suppose they all are, but remember not to lose focus.

H I B I M I K U 4evr

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>>2093712
See also all these yuta comics I uploaded to danbooru yesterday. Hopefully they get approved so they stick around and get translated.

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>>2093713
Its getting....steamy...

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>>2093716
Why wasn't I born a girl.

End me.

>>2093724
If you can live another 30 to 40 years, immortality may have been achieved, then we'll have all the time in the world to wait for a genderbending machine to be invented.

>>2093642
>probably the only good Nanoha series
Now your opinion is the first I've seen that differs from everybody else's boner over A's.

>>2093716
Same me boi

>>2093753
Bruce Jenner

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>>2093710
Chris is the cutest part of HibiMiku

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>>2094191
Chris is the central pillar of all OTPs in this series

>>2089628
>USA has sometimes made other countries the villian in their media
In relatively rare instances where some real country is explicitly the "villain" or behind the atagonist, it's some fuck like the nazis, soviets, or the PRC. I don't recall any work set after the second world war where Japan is specifically antagonistic, and in fact I'd say Americans have a fairly positive view of Japan in general.

>>2094360
I think it just has to do with the worldwide anti-American sentiment of America being the world's sole superpower after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Japan often puts itself in on of two shoes in anime, either the victim of the world's oppression (Code Geass) or the new world superpower that has all the technological advances no one else has (Symphogear).

>hibimiku
I really don't have a problem with it, I just don't really get why so many people consider it their main ship.

>>2094378
Because Hibiki is the MC?

>>2094378
Main ship in general or main ship in Symphogear? I can explain either for you. Within Symphogear, they are the pair that has been thoroughly, since frame 1, supported by the show, with many laid-back yuri moments that show their deep bond, comical moments that show their chemistry, and dramatic moments that prove they belong together. They're both normal girls with short, plain-colored hair which is refreshingly normal and real.

If you're talking in general, well, Symphogear is one of the strongest yuri shows in recent history and it's an international phenomenon.

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>>2094382
>international phenomenon
I don't think a steady fanbase of 20~ westerners counts as an international phenomenon. Every normie anime site on the internet hates it.

>>2094382
I dislike when characters are way too colorful, but I also dislike when they are way too plain and normal.

>>2094385
Normie anime sites hate everything that is not FMAB, Madoka, SAO or whatever flavour of the month LN is the best anime ever
Besides, there are at least 45 IPs here and they can't all be crack-kun so I would say Symphogear is quite popular

>>2094382
>They're both normal girls with short, plain-colored hair which is refreshingly normal and real
That's almost the weirdest part about it for me. Symphogear is a fucking crazy show. And though their relationship is good and well-developed, it's fairly... bland, I guess?, at least to me. Maybe not bland per se, just... like you said, normal. Very normal.

Again, it's fine, I just don't really understand why people are as into it as they are.

Plus I admit it does annoy me a little when half of a thread is images of a ship I'm not really that into. Like, do whatever you want, and some of the art is pretty good, but I can't say I'm particularly happy about it.

>>2094399
Then post images of your OTP and quit bitching.

>>2094399
You're wrong for thinking that. Yuri anime and manga are full of unrealistic couples based on archetype interaction and melodramatic emotions that don't ring true except for shallow appeal and enjoyment. Hibiki and Miku's relationship is made all the more vivid with how grounded and purposeful it is.

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>>2094400
How about just some lewd

>>2094421
Wait, why is Chris' hair purple-ish?

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>>2094424
Chris's hair was purpleish back in S1, like Miku's was greenish.

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>>2094399
I wouldn't say their relationship is normal, or at least normal in terms of being dull and typical, I mean Miku turned into a yandere symphogear in the second season due to her desire to protect Hibiki and Hibiki was on the verge of becoming a relic to save Miku from that same situation.
To echo what >>2094382 said they have really good chemistry with each other which for me really makes them feel like an actual couple even if the show won't give us explicit evidence, especially with how Miku is able to support and comfort Hibiki even outside the battlefield, even in GX where Miku got a lesser role in comparison to the first two seasons there were still quite a few moments where she was there to comfort Hibiki or simply to flirt with.
They dont normally have the cuteness that KirikaxShirabe have, nor do they have as much Sexy that TsubasaxMaria possess but I personally feel they convey more charm than the other two couplings probably due to their relationship and actions being usually tied in with the plot of the show which makes them feel more sincere.

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>>2094416
>You're wrong for thinking that
I was just saying that it felt that way to me, in order to explain why I wasn't a diehard fan of it. I don't hate it, it's perfectly fine and enjoyable. But good to know that my impressions of something were wrong :^)

>>2094400
>bitching
I just said that I didn't get something. But I guess anything other than a flying colors endorsement counts as "bitching".

>OTP
I don't really have one for this show desu. That's really the only reason I said I was "slightly annoyed", I like many of the pairings in this show so it's suboptimal if one dominates.

>>2094524
>dull
That's not really what I meant. It's more that I've seen similar relationships before in many different types of stories, anime and otherwise. And that's true of other pairings as well, which is why I guess it didn't make sense to me why this one seems so much more popular. If it resonates with people, awesome, that's the point of art. It just didn't as strongly with me, so I was curious to see why people were so attached to it. And I think you and others have explained it very well, so thankyou for that.

>>2094574
>this one seems so much more popular
Did you miss the time during GX when TsubaMaria got an overwhelming amount of attention from the Western fandom, relegating HibiMiku to the sidelines? Which ironically lead to some diehard HibiMiku fans having the exact same reaction you have now.

>>2094654
>Western Fandom

Is like 5 people though.

>>2094695
HibiMiku and TsubasaMari have at least 5 each. KiriShira and TsubasaChris probably 2 apiece. So that's like, 12? At least 12 fans.

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>>2094654
>Did you miss the time during GX when TsubaMaria got an overwhelming amount of attention from the Western fandom
yes, and my reaction would probably be the same

>>2094656
>Yeah, if you like any crack pairs that means you're not actually a fan of series
good to know, glad you sorted that out for me

>it also means you're an all around shallow self serving person
what a world we live in where your taste in which drawings of japanese girls you want to be in a relationship together makes you deep and altruistic, but where my tastes (which I never specified, just that I like several different pairings, but that automatically means I'm a diehard miku/serena fan or something I guess) make me shallow and self-serving. The more you know, I guess!

>>2095882
Ignore the second guy; he's been plaguing Madoka threads for years and now tries to shit up geah ones too.

Back on topic: what different pairings do you like, anon? Personally I've taken a liking to Maria/Chris and Kanade/Maria, which I realize are cracky as fuck, but the show doesn't seem to give much room to explore alternative ships outside maybe Chris/Miku or Chris/Hibiki.

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>>2095940
Only prominent ship I'd really say I don't like that much is DMJii, but that's only because a lot of the artwork is cutesy turned up to eleven. I like some cutesy stuff but with them it's the majority.

I guess as far as favorites I guess tsubasa/chris or anything with chris really if I'm being honest

>>2094574
>Plus I admit it does annoy me a little when half of a thread is images of a ship I'm not really that into. Like, do whatever you want, and some of the art is pretty good, but I can't say I'm particularly happy about it.
>not bitching

>>2095956
Oh I can agree with you there on the overabundance of fluff--one of the most gripping things about G for me was the drama between DMJii. I've done a lot of angsty headcanoning delving into their characters that I wish the anime did, but unfortunately they're doomed to just be the beta couple.

Tsubachris is good too. Their banter is fun.

>>2095882
>miku/serena
Is this a thing?

>>2095940

Super crack ship hibi/kanade

>>2094783
> 12 fans

Sounds about right

>>2095940
I don't know why you have the need to explore when there are blatant relationships within the show to be enjoyed. Sounds like you have western fandom cancer.

>>2096029
I don't know why you have the need to complain about other people's tastes in a public forum.

If you think that everyone in a community ought to exactly agree with you, you can always turn off the computer and be alone.

Also, it's hilarious that you think crack pairings are a western-only phenomenon.

>>2096029
>this new to pairings
>thinks Japan doesn't love crack pairings

Oh n00bs.

Soooo... Are there news about a new season or ovas? I want more TsubaMari. They became my fave ship in S3.

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>>2096072
Nothing yet. Barring a random info drop, the next likely place for some news would be around Maria's birthday (8/7), or on the Live BD release.

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Need more Tsubamari in the thread.

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>>2096290

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>>2096296

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>>2096297

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>>2096300

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>>2096302

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>>2096303

Soooooooooo... Are there any pics of any of the pairings that also have Chris just randomly hanging out in the background?

>>2096026

I'm pretty sure this thread is just one guy talking/arguing with himself since there are no other fans to talk to.

>>2096297
Why can't I stop imagining Tsubasa throwing Maria and the bike at a group of noise
>Time for a big entrance! OH SHIT she was still on the bike

>>2096351
How can they even afford to keep Tsubasa in bikes?

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>>2096351
Tsubasa protects her waifus now.

>>2096353
taxpayer money.

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>>2096321
Does this count?

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>>2096321
Or this.

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Does anyone have the webm of chris just being cute? Last I saw it posted was earlier this month on /sgg/.

>>2096380
>>2096383

Sure, I'll take what I can get.

Honest question: it seems like both /u/ and /sgg/ have a fairly negative view of GX. Should I even bother with it or just skip it/not watch it and let the series end at G? Do the show's faults actually make S3 unenjoyable or is it a case of anons complaining about things for the sake of complaining?

>>2096509
If you've managed to watch the first two seasons I don't think it's that huge of a downgrade to warrant skipping it.

>>2096509
GX has a good first half, the reason it's so badly regarded is that it loses its shit in the second half. I'd say it's still worth watching, for the returning characters and Garie if nothing else.

>>2096509
Can't say much about the plot, but GX has some of the best songs by far.

>>2096509

Watch the first episode and pretend it ends there.

>>2096558

I don't think they'll ever make a song that will top that certain episode 3 song.

>>2096558
Maybe, but a big part of those songs for me is the emotional resonance and association with scenes of great yuri. For that reason the songs from S1 still stay with me the most, though there are some standouts from G and GX. Tsubasa's song to Kanade from GX is a highlight.

>>2096558
>beef stroganoff single never
It hurts

>>2096509
>Do the show's faults actually make S3 unenjoyable
No.

>is it a case of anons complaining about things for the sake of complaining?
also no. S3 isn't nearly as good as the first two, but it isn't irredeemably awful. I wouldn't call it "good" per se, but as someone who likes the show already it'll be entertaining enough.

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>>2096871
I think some anons once noticed that Signum kinda fits as Tsubamari's science baby.

>>2096939
Of course. Tsubasa's blue eyes, straight hair, and death by honoru personality. Maria's pink hair and body.

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>>2096931
Is this really the first time you see him?

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>>2096952
Sure

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>>2096958
Don't engage with him/her/it/xe/xi. They have very delicate tumblr sensibilities and get mad when you step on their ships.

At least now he seems to have stopped yelling about TsubaMari.

>>2096967
I want more of these scenes

>>2096974

Do your think your parents are proud of you?

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>>2096967
Shit, that time was absolutely hysterical. Remember when he reached so hard claiming TsubaChris was romantic because Chris blushed talking to Tsubasa? Even though Chris blushes at damn near everyone?

Or how he claimed Kanade being dead means Tsubasa stopped loving her even though Sora E clearly contradicts that statement?

But enough about him, let's get back to our regularly scheduled posting.

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>>2096971
What about official content?

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>>2096979
Don't bother; he'll just twist it around and say anything other than the intended 2-person pairings are to be read as mere friendship.

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>>2096978
I miss the times when TsubaChris was a thing

>>2096984
>Name a single thing I do wrong.
You attack ,spite and harass people, spam, degrade love and meaningful relationships, are self serving and tons of other negative things.

>>2096998
>I miss the times when TsubaChris was a thing

Me too. I'm not really a fan of Maria.

This thread was better when it was dead.

>>2096987

More please.

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>>2097021
>It's obvious what you are trying to do here. You are trying to make it look like even "canon" supporters think there is nothing wrong with crack shitposting.
Do you really think I am that cunning?

>>2096978
Don't disparage TsubaChris to troll others. I think their yuri dynamic is unique in this series, though mostly I like them just because Maria is a wet blanket of a character.

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>>2097050
Sadly GX did nothing with Chris and now Maria is the new hotness

>>2097050
But I should add that Maria comes into her own in the OVA segments and whenever she gets a spare moment to interact with the cast, like tending to DMJii or teasing Tsubasa. Her personal storyline with Serena, Mom, and her feelings of inadequacy just rings hollow after her dumb hypocritical character arc in G and superfluous role in GX. Just my opinion.

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>>2097058
Maria was always the hotness. It just took awhile for Tsubasa to come around and realize it.

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>>2097050
But I didn't; I just feel sorry for TsubaChris shippers because dear ol' ACK shipped them with vitriol and now they're forever going to be associated with one another.

It's a good dynamic though, I'll agree with you on that front.

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>>2097078
Chris belongs to her sempai
Thats the natural order of things

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>>2097088
>now they're forever going to be associated with one another
What kind of dumb logic is that? Don't speak for anyone but yourself.

Anyway, posting the only real Tsubasa pairing.

I miss when we had OC and things, rather than just periods of nothing punctuated by rehashed arguments.

>>2097104
Sora e made it way too depressing to ship them

>>2097102
Too bad natural selection kicked Chris out and brought Maria in. Darwin is a fan of Mamacat.

Chris can be with Glasses Lesbian classmate next season.

>>2097108
There's still a couple fics that get updated periodically, but it's really slowed down a lot.

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I feet like they should've capitalized on Miku befriending Chris in the first season and at least made something out of it.

Like them being close friends or Chris having a one sided crush or something.

>>2097199
>feet
>feel*
lel

>>2097189
Are any of them good?

There are fics on Tumblr as well as AO3 since some people don't post both places.

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>>2097189
Translations still needed for these here http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=4108084

>>2097225
Check out AO3, the TsubaMari stuff is pretty good. It's mostly oneshots or early stages of longer fics, but they're quite entertaining.

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>>2097248
I'm waiting for Overture to finally get to the lewd.

>>2097258
You're certainly not alone in that. I also wish The Singer wasn't abandoned. Despite the somewhat cliche premise it had potential.

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>>2097258

>tfw someone is waiting for the lewds to happen in your story

I feel that I should apologize.
With my rough outline of the story, it's not until chapter 26 or so before the lewd so it's going to be a long wait.

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>>2096998
>>2097007
>>2097102

Nice to see I'm not the only one left that still prefers TsubaChris. That's at least like 4 people right?

Feels bad that I stopped listening to Tsubasa's songs after Chris lost. It still hurts.T.T

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>Checking out Live 2016 BD bonuses
>KR shop exclusive bonus is Tsubasa and Maria bromide
Seems like KR also ship TsubaMari.

I know this probably means nothing but imagining KR employees shipping TsubaMari to hell and back is fun.

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>>2097449
Full list of bonuses.

>Chris stuck with HibiMiku

>>2097248
I wish we'd get some more things besides TsubaMari. mostly Serenade

that, or someone could write /m/'s Double K AU, I don't even care if it's explicitly /u/

>>2097307
>Overture's author posts on /u/
shit I'm a fucking newfag I guess

Which other writefriends are here?

>>2097491
Please consult >>2085530

>>2097343
You're nuts. However you feel about her current romance, the new song about her feelings for Kanade is amazing. Not to mention the great Nana songs besides that.

>>2097482
The problem with Serenade is we don't know very much about Serena.

I personally like to think that Serena's personality is what Maria was trying to imitate at the start of G, so she'd be much more confident and commanding, but she also would've raised more questions about Ver's plans from the get-go do to having actual spine.

>>2097507
I wonder if anyone will ever write something where Kanade and Serena survived instead of Tsubasa and Maria.

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>>2097482
Serenade is a good yet utterly cracky ship. And I think I'm the only crazy one who actually wrote something for it.

>>2097514
Yeah, there's two fics and both by the same person, so thank you senpai

>>2097484
More than half of writefags in the AO3 tag post in /u/ or /sgg/ actually. Or used to anyway. Dunno if they're still lurking around.

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>>2097515
You're welcome anon. I'm actually surprised someone else likes such a crack ship.

>>2097516
Huh, neat. I thought it was mostly tumblrites.

>>2097522
Who says it isn't?

>>2097522
It's not like 4chan and tumblr are mutually exclusive, imouto.

It's just /v/ and the SJWs who hate each other, who are vocal minorities on both sites.

>>2097526
>It's just /v/ and the SJWs who hate each other,

That's called shitposting for the sake of it. Arguments are dead on the majority of 4chan.

>>2097450
She truly is the Hayate of symphogear

>>2097547
Except that Hayate has the Wolkenritter, and her career, and her daughter.

>>2097551
Chris has her career as a gear user and two cute kouhai
Besides, she still has a few years before she is as old as Hayate, she can make it

>>2097551
Chris has her school harem, her schoolwork, and likely a daughter somewhere in the world.

>>2097657
>likely a daughter somewhere in the world.
With Fine?

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>>2097307
You know that means you must take responsibility.

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Can I ask what happened here yesterday? I see a lot of deleted posts and I'm confused at who this ACK person is.

>>2097742
Honestly if you don't know, you're better off not asking.

>>2097742
Anti-Crack-kun, an almost certainly mentally ill ban evader who goes on long-winded rants about the awfulness of what he considers crack pairings. He's most active in the Madoka threads, but he does branch out on occasion. If you spot him, report and don't reply.

>>2097742
>>2097745
>>2097755
I wish the mods would delete these kinds of posts as well when ACK shows up, they are not exactly on topic either so it is a bit biased.

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>>2097871
Anon asked a question and people answered, as well as giving them a proper warning and protocol to follow should they ever be unfortunate enough to encounter him. That's more helpful than ACK hurling insults at everybody, providing absolutely nothing of value to the thread. But I agree, enough talk about that.

Attaching a gif so my post is somewhat on-topic.

>>2097882
Why does Hibiki always interrupt Miku's confessions?

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>>2097716
I'm not taking responsibility for anything.
Kidding. I'm working on the next chapter right now.

>>2097909
because she's the idiot husband.

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>>2097871
He's generally cited for ban evasion.
Mods are very strict about that type of trasngression.

But yes, let's move on.

>>2097742
>>2097745
>>2097755
>>2097871
>>2097925
Still, this is all off topic. It would be better if this all got deleted since it doesn't have anything to do with the topic.

Tell me your three favourite things about your favourite Symphogear pairing anons

>>2097921
Who proposed?

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>>2097937
Cute
Sexy
Canon

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>>2097937
DMJii: They're cute, they're funny, they're innocent.

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>>2097937
There's nothing better than a couple that's comfortable spending the rest of their lives together, respect and trust each other, and have great sex.

>>2097942
Neither, at least not explicitly.
They're implicitly married, with implicit proposals from both parties.

>>2097949
Implicit marriages don't give you spousal benefits though, and Hibiki ends up in hospital a lot.

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>>2097937
They're sexy as hell, they complement each other really well, and they're not teenagers.

>>2097953
Not being a teenager is overrated. I'm a grownup all the time and it sucks.

>>2097951
Hibiki works for the government and her direct superiors know Hibiki is all but married to Miku and thus let Miku have visitation rights.

>>2097951
They both work for the same organization though, so she probably has a similar kind of coverage anyway.

>>2097959
>>2097960
What if they have an accident on holiday?

>>2097964
Given all the shit Hibiki has done, the exact details of her health are probably a state secret, so she'll probably get transferred to a SONG facility rather quickly.

Also there's not an orderly alive that could stop Miku.

>>2097957
95% of all anime/manga is about teenagers, it gets boring after a while. It's good to see some older characters as a change of pace.

>>2097964
Maybe based OTONA registered their marriage for them already.

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>>2097937
HibiMiku:
- not a visually stereotypical yuri coupling
- great and understandable drama that fueled some of the most emotional high points of season 1 and G
- married in all senses except literally

KiriShira:
- openly affectionate
- unpopular opinion, but I really liked their own drama subplots that just reinforce how much they love each other
- cute teens in a blatant summer romance

>>2097968
Very true. And Miku is terrifying.

Leave the elaborate wedding to Tsubasa and Maria, I suppose.

>>2097937
HibiMiku sleeps in the same bed, share underwear, and bathe together, sing songs about each other, and are cuddly and cute.

>>2097969
Generally I do actually agree, but TsubaMari leaves me sort of cold. I think it's because I usually enjoy older characters because they're more realistic and easier to identify with, but Tsubasa and Maria are just as unbelievable as the rest of the cast, as world famous pop idols with deep emotional issues who fight monsters on the side. Or is the music career on the side? So when you remove that element I just prefer DMJii and HibiMiku's rapport. I have a real thing for idiots in love. My all-time OTP is Arika/Mashiro from Mai Otome

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>>2097937
Its easy to play with the dynamics of their relationship, they have excellent chemistry, and are hot as fuck.

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>>2097937
>Edge Works of Goddess Zababa
>Just Loving X-Edge
>That fucking roomba
The way they complement each other is really sweet

>>2097983
If you're watching Symphogear for realistic, identifiable characters, you're doing it wrong. But that still doesn't change the relative novelty and enjoyability of seeing older characters in roles like these.

>>2097999
Did I say I was, at all? I just said that that was what I usually enjoy about adult characters, and without that them being grownups doesn't give them an edge over the other ships for me.

>>2097999
There's an emotional resonance to be spoken of, and I think Hibiki and Miku have way more of that than TsubaMari. Granted, they are the main relationship and have been main characters since S1, so the focus is on them. I find the characterization of TsubaMari in romantic fan works to be too wishy-washy and affected to really enjoy their dynamic. I enjoy them as a comedic or light yuri pairing though.

>>2098007
I think a lot of fanfic writers write characters the way they wish they were written, rather than the way they are. It's also quite difficult to strike the same tone a lot of anime does, where you can have a swimsuit episode one week and then a central character dying the following.

>>2097953
I can't help but treat them as teenagers. Maybe because they don't do all that boring adult shit like spending the whole day working to pay bills.

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>>2098009
Fanfic's something I don't know much about, so I can't pass any judgment on that. And I don't want to be too negative, so anything the Symphogear fandom wants to share and ejoy is fine. But I want to do my part and laud comics like the ones in >>2097236, which are superbly crafted within the tone of the show's character interactions.

Another thing I love about HibiMiku is that it has the support of Symphogear's greatest fan artist, tsuta no ha.

>>2098016
It's not necessarily a bad thing, I've read fic that felt far truer to the characters than what their canon ended up doing with them, it's just something I've noticed over the years. Doujinshi/fanart often feels more in-character and in keeping with the tone of the original work though. Maybe it's just Eastern vs Western sensibilities. Japanese/Asian fans are probably always going to understand the characters/setting more easily. And it's easier to reproduce visual jokes and characterisation that relies on camera shots, etc in pictures, obviously.

Symphogear has almost uniformly good fanfiction writers though, I certainly wouldn't want to disparage them.

>>2098027
>Symphogear has almost uniformly good fanfiction writers though, I certainly wouldn't want to disparage them.
When your fandom's biggest fic problem is how slow all the writers are, you're living the good life.

>>2098027
>Maybe it's just Eastern vs Western sensibilities.
Doujinshi are also much more organised, usually put together for conventions and the like, compared to western fanworks which are mostly written for online communities.

I honestly hate Maria, if she didn't appear people would be shipping Chris and Tsubasa like it was the most normal thing in the world, besides being a terrible character and spotlight stealer

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>>2098031
Yup!

>>2098032
Well, they're still being made by and for fans, generally, it's just how they're disseminated that's different.

>>2098032
Doujinshi are sold after all, of course they'll be more organised.

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>>2098035
I'm also not fond of her for the reasons that you stated but it seems like she's the creator's pet now Nee-san.

They even devoted a section of the OVA of how "special" she is since she can use 2 relics. I guess surviving getting pierced in the heart with a relic, tapping into said relics power to become a Symphogear herself, bringing your friends back from the dead, unlocking all of the gears restriction systems, or taking your opponents Gear mid battle and using it for yourself is not special enough.

I don't really spend much time in other fandoms, but it seems to me yuri is probably the only genre where I see fans outright hating on a character because they get in the way of their preferred ship.

I guess it differs from series to series too.

>>2098229
Hibiki is an anime protagonist, it goes without saying that's she's super duper special.

>>2098229
>mfw Chris could control two full relics, is an expert with her own gear, is the most useful in the battlefield because of her range and firepower, survived deadly attacks from Hibiki, Miku, Tsubasa and Fine, her entire arc was about learning to trust her friends and specially her senpai
What the fuck Tsubasa, you picked the wrong terrorist

>>2098232
Hahaha, you must be new to the whole fandom thing then.

>>2098232
>yuri is probably the only genre where I see fans outright hating on a character because they get in the way of their preferred ship.
Yuri fans are actually usually the most relaxed about this, because we're so fucking used to being baited and teased and shit.

Yaoi fangirls are notorious for both ship-induced hate and ship-induced completely-rewriting-characters.

Het fans, well, were you here for the ending of Naruto? Because http://imgur.com/a/XKwJ4/all exists to document it.

>>2098243
If 15 years is new then I guess so. Spend most of my time on /u/ and mostly see hate for male characters and female characters anons don't like. Last true hetero series I followed was Negima, and don't remember anyone wanting a specific character to die so a specific pairing would happen, but then I also wasn't exactly looking

>>2098245
Negima was never a really mainstream fandom, even if it was big for a while.

Look at things like Harry Potter or Naruto and you'll see.

>>2098244
>ending of Naruto
What ending? Has this thing ended?

>>2098248
It ended around the time Legend of Korra did, I think?

>>2098249
>legend of korra
All the butthurt that day was beautiful

>>2098244
Wow.

>>2098244
That's the impression I get too. Specially if it's a non-yuri series, it's hard to find other yuri fans.

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>>2097503
Which song is that?

>>2098232
Hahaha, you must be so new. Look into Ichiruki shippers in Bleach fandom for some true insanity-induced hatred on ship-breaking characters.

Yuri fans are nothing next to this even in their worst hour.

>>2098465
Wait is it Sora e...?
That seems like it.

>>2098489
yep

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>>2098229
They gave her one whole skit explaining the mechanic of her being able to activate Gungnir and Airgetlahm. Otherwise it would have just been information stuck in a keyword. It was also nice to hear Tsubasa talk so enthusiastically about something so relatively mundane, like she won some kleenex from the lotto.

Meanwhile Hibiki gets 3 whole seasons detailing her relic bonding/unbonding process and the effects it has on her.

>>2098508
Wow. Sora e... is just 5 minutes of amazing feels.

Tsubasa x Kanade is my OTP. I so glad this pairing got this song. It's perfect. It sums up everything we've seen about their relationship.

I really want Kanade back and even more so after listening to this.

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>>2098528
Moving on is nice and all but Kanade/Tsubasa was clearly meant to be. A shame that the anime didn't do a good job of making her sacrifice seem worthwhile. Maybe if they'd had more budget, maybe if they'd a little more respect for their characters. One of those has grown a lot across the season, the other one, not so much, in my opinion.

>>2098512
Are we complaining about the show being about the main character?

>>2098548
No, I'm saying it's dumb to say that Maria is somehow being promoted as super special compared to Hibiki.

>>2098547
But her words and example literally echo on with Hibiki's voice and actions, and she was a big part of Tsubasa's development in S1 (and I guess the supplemental parts in later seasons, which I agree weren't as good about crafting a good arc for her). I think there are some great scenes with Tsubasa remembering Kanade, and the song is excellent.

>>2098547
I'm still half expecting Kanade and/or Serena to come back from the dead as the dramatic reveal for S5.

>>2098555
I want Mamu to be back too.

Confession found: https://youtu.be/Ajq7LbcdDUs?t=1504

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>>2098555
Kanade just isn't going to happen. Serena has a chance since there was no body, anime rules dictate it's possible for her to have survived. But it would be a terrible decision to bring them back after going through two arcs of Tsubasa and Maria finally letting go of their suffering form those incidents.

They can just watch over from heaven and take bets on who tops.

More Serena definitely isn't out of the question though, at least in backstory form since Kaneko has expressed his desire to do more with her, and that's why he hasn't revealed too much about her in general. I want it just so that Serena doesn't end up another tragic waste of Hocchan..

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>>2098564
Can you elaborate for those who don't speak moon?

>>2098567
>suffering form those incidents
The real suffering isn't from the incident, it's from every day of not having that person in your life.

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>>2098570
It's just Miku saying I Love You. Can someone who speaks Japanese translate what Tsubasa and Chris are saying in this tweet though? https://twitter.com/kattu_15/status/752245803515650048

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>>2098573
It's the same dialog from the show.

>>2098573
>Miku saying I Love You
didn't she already do that in the shenshoujin song from G and the hibimiku duet?

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>>2098588
Well, this is a new recording of it.
>>2098574
I see, thanks.

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>>2098571
Well said. It is better to be with a person one loves than to not be with a person one loves. The pain of loss remains even after moving on. Moving on does not mean erasing the sadness but rather allowing oneself to feel happiness.

Like at first Tsubasa wasn't able to be friends with Hibiki or pursue her dreams so she "moved on" after her superb song.

>>2098625
And that's basically the jist of Sora e... Tsubasa is going to keep moving forward but she'll never forget the time she spent with Kanade.

>>2098567
I do not understand why it is a popular opinion that bringing back from the dead is a bad idea.

First of all plausibility: It's fucking Symphogear. It's plausible.

Second there's meaning: After a few death's and resurrections, further deaths won't mean much. However the first death is still meaningful regardless of if Kanade comes back or not.
Tsubasa went through her struggle and changes. Her experience of losing someone remains. Her desire to pursue her dreams remains. Resurrection will not retroactively undo any of Tsubasa's character changes.

If anything, resurrection would be an amazing way to showcase more about Tsubasa because it gives even more opportunities to explore Tsubasa's most special relationship.

Third: Value
Now this is cold GRR Martin style thinking but a character has value in life and in death. To preserve other things like plot and setting not every bit of value is going to be used up in every character. Realistic settings will not bring characters back to life because that breaks the realistic part. As for plot, it all depends.

Dead Kanade is all milked and dry but Alive Kanade has a crap ton of value. Tsubasa, Hibiki (there's gotta be something since Kanade saved Hibiki) and Kanade herself. That is gold mine level value. Yes, even then resurrection can be executed badly but so can literally anything. As long as a resurrection is in some way tied to a season's main story arc, I think it will be for the best that Kanade comes back.

One last thing: angst is not always better.

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>>2098643
Dang anon.

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>>2098643
>Alive Kanade has a crap ton of value. Tsubasa, Hibiki

IIRC, in the manga, Kanade also met Chris once when they were gathering Gear compatible children, before Chris went missing and Kanade got partnered up with Tsubasa.
That's already 3 people she would have ties with for some character interactions/banter.
Compare that to Maria who, throughtout the entirety of S3, only really addressed Tsubasa and never seemed to interact properly with Hibiki and Chris. Even DMJii got to interact them.

Although, I do think resurrection plots are hard to pull off though, and S3 doesn't really inspire confidence.

>>2098643
It's pointless. That's the reason they won't do it.