Puella Magi Madoka Magica: Girl Sandwich Edition

we'll never get that post-Rebellion season 2, huh? ;_;

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>>2085222
It'll most likely be a movie, or god forbid a manga.

>>2085222
>>2085281
Isn't that what wraith arc is? It would be cool if they animated it.

>>2085287
Nah, Wraith Arc is just an interquel to bridge the Eternal and Rebellion and explain wraith behaviour. I hope once the new project is done, they do TDS and Wraith Arc ova or something.

>>2085205
>>2085208
>>2085211

Kyouko: The biggest playa since Madoka.

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>>2085222
I honestly just want a season 2 that's just a slice of life romance comedy. Have it take place 2 or 3 years after rebellion when Homura and Madoka have finally started dating after an awkward friendship. I don't care if that would contrast too much with the rest of the series, I want it so bad.

>>2085346
Never going to happen outside of Doujinshi.
Or maybe an OVA like that at some point, but it's doubtful.
Would be nice though.

>>2085346
>I honestly just want a season 2 that's just a slice of life romance comedy.
They openly mocked this in Rebellion

>>2085346

It's funny you ask for that, yo-

>>2085363

Right, someone beat me to it. But people don't really watch madoka because of the slice of life stuff. There are lots of animes with that sort of cute bullshit, and while I understand the want/need for something 'lighter', it's not like something like that would actually stick with you the way the struggles and pain does of the series. Getting emotional about a series, and then wishing that all the emotion causing stuff was taken out is basically saying 'I wish I hadn't seen this.'

The urge to watch tragedy is well known, even if it's confusing. If rebellion was just the five girls teaming up against a bad guy and then having to split up, no one would care about it a year later. But because the conflict is really between the characters we like, the story/message/themes/emotions stick with us and maybe even change our lives in small ways.

Candy and sugarwater is fun and easy, but I'm never going to eat an amazing steak and then say 'I wish it was just a burger though.'

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>>2085372
You're completely right, tragedy sticks with you longer than happiness. I'm not saying I want the pain to go away, I value the way the story's made everyone suffer because it's made it interesting and the happy parts are so much more powerful as a result. I'm just thinking it could be fun to see how they could turn something so dark and horrible into something cute and fluffy.

>>2085346
I'm actually fearing that Madoka and Homura are already dating and that Homura is a huge creep about it. But realistically any yuri is going to have to happen after their conflict is resolved. Anything before is going to be extremely uncomfortable. Not that I have a problem with Homucifer sexually dominating and corrupting the pure, submissive Madoka, but it's pretty out of character.

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NSFW Sayaka x Kyoko doujin.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B01Dn3kBTNnuOEw0c3piVkM4Mlk

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samples~

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>>2085437
>crack was never ever spammed before roughly 500 days ago
newfag detected

People were already spamming crack back in 2005 during the Mai-HiME craze during the early days of 4chan. Who remembers NaoNat MaiNat ShizNao ShizHaruka ShizMai ShizArika ShizEveryone ?
I recall Azumanga, Love Hina Narutard crack dumps being a thing in those days too.

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>>2085514
Believe what you want to believe as you step ever closer to the realm of psychosis.

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>>2085495
>>2085523
So, you have come across ACK.
DON’T PANIC!
Everything is going to be fine. Just follow these few simple steps and everything will be ok.

Do: Click the arrow next to his post number and then report the post.
This will alert a mod to the off topic poster. A mod may not be readily available to come deal with the issue, but just be patient.
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If a moderator doesn’t show up in a timely fashion, ACK will continue to harass you (sometimes double and triple posting, shouting out accusations). It’s ok, he will say anything he can to get a rise out of you. The important thing is to not fall for it. Just report his posts as they come in, and as soon as a mod is available they will deal with him.

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>>2085531
>triggered everytime some anon spends a few seconds posting crack and taking effort to make long replies that no one gives a shit about
It's so easy to press your buttons.

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>>2085543
I doubt that, captchas don't take long and /u/ has really short wait between posts.

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Moving on...
Will Mami always be a pedo, or will Nagisa get the chance to eventually mature into a beautiful woman?
It would have to mean the end of the mahou shoujo system one way or another for that to happen though...

>>2085562
Are you implying Magucas don't age?
Both Mami and Kyoko showed visible signs of aging when telling their back stories.
Also Mami's mamis seemed to have developed a bit in the couple months (?) between the series and rebellion. Or maybe Homura threw that in as an added bonus in her world since she was all about giving the girls better lives.

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>>2085562
No, no, magical girls can grow up.

>>2085570
Was it confirmed they do age, or is it possible that they use magic to appear as if they age?

>>2085570
Their body is effectively a zombie body, sustained from their soul gem. They don't grow. In case of Mami, she uses her magic to grow them bigger.

>>2085600
Occam's razor. There's nothing that says their bodies don't grow while they're around their soul gem, since their body is still living.

>>2085603
>their body is still living.
Did you not play the PSP game? Sayaka's body starts to rot when her soul gem is separated from her body for an extended time. Their body is not alive.

>>2085641
Then their bodies would rot when they're still up and about, walking around. When they have their soul gems, their hearts beat, their brains send electrical signals, their cells divide - they're alive, but with their soul in another place. But when that link is severed, that's when their bodies die. And everything can be restarted when their soul is back, even if their body has stayed dead enough to not be in optimal condition.

It's like the difference between a coma patient and someone who's dead. A coma patient still lives, their bodies still work. A dead person is dead.

>>2085643
Interesting thought:
If they do age normally, why is Homura still looking like a middle school girl when she should be maybe 26 years old or something?

>>2085649
Homura's time travel goes by the 'future mind goes in past body' logic, so her age resets to "a month ago" everytime she time travels.

>>2085643
> And everything can be restarted when their soul is back, even if their body has stayed dead enough to not be in optimal condition.
This sounds like a premise for a horror manga.

"If you bring this gem to a certain mound in Scotland, magical girl Skeltal-chan will assemble herself and chase you through Britain."

>>2085662
>This sounds like a premise for a horror manga.
But Madoka Magica is already horror fiction as it stands...

>>2085530
What?

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Giantess Sayaka

>>2085702
REEEE SQUARE CUBE LAW

>>2085705
>autism

>>2085707
HOW ARE THEY GONNA BREATHE PROPERLY
WHEN THEY'RE LIKE AT LEAST 500M TALL
AND HAVE GIANT-ASS LUNGS

>>2085708
JUST

>>2085708
It's actually the city that's small.

>>2085580

The production notes for Roberta suggest they do age.

>>2085671
Let me correct you; Madoka is Cosmic Horror. Which is probably the most horrible type of horror.

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>>2085702
Please. Get on our level.

>>2085817
The ending to the series confirms they do age.

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I want more intimate/lewd Silver in my life.

>>2085580
>>2085562
They age, but usually don't get a chance to.

>>2085573
I chalk that up to anime inconsistancy and use of magic. take your normal megucan headcanon and beat it. These are my little liches.

>>2085848
how so?

>>2086086
Cleopatra. If we include manga and Incurry notes, Tsubaki from Suzune is an adult and Roberta is an alcoholic in her mid thrities.

>>2086093
that doesn't mean they age naturally. thats just how old they've gotten over time.

>>2085845

How much drain on a soul gem is it per second to prevent one's self from collapsing into a brown dwarf?

>>2086084
It's not exactly inconsistent when the images of them with flat chests are explicitly flashbacks and the bustier images are the current time period.

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>>2085702
>>2085708
>>2085714
>>2085845

>>2086084
well here's a question:

Since it is mentioned that small amounts of magic are constantly required to maintain the bodies... but...

what would happen if a soul gem was permanently removed from proximity of the body? Obviously the body would rot... but would the soul gem cloud? would there not be a drain on it since there is no (known) load?

can a magical girl 'time travel' by 'dying' and then 100 years later 'awake' by moving the soul gem back to the casket? (at a large magical expense to 'heal' what is left of the body of course, but perhaps less than a 100 years of drain?

>>2086188
Urobuchi answered this for Hanokage. The soul gem would cloud due to the intense emotional stress placed on the user. It's possible that an experienced meguca could be seperated for a short time, but in general it would be a horrifying experience.

https://youtu.be/6-na_Bzmvk4
This is extremely painful to watch even if you hate Sayaka.

In this route, Charlotte eats Sayaka's soul gem and the girls have to find it.The "bad end" involved Madoka and Homura's failing to find it in time. If the body rots, the rotted portion cannot be recovered. It's implied that Sayaka went black really quicklu.

>>2086157
I'm reminded of that chapter of Gulliver's Travels where he describes how horrible it is being sexually assaulted by a giantess.

>>2086515
eh, that's what she gets for trying to go the het route.

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>>2086574
Nagisa subconsciously looking out for Sayaka.

>>2086574
>Kyousuke runs away at the sight of Sayaka
>Kyouko stays and tries to comfort Sayaka
Checks out.

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Who are these friends of Nagis and is Mami going to molest them too?

>>2086685
No, but she'll make them watch.

>>2086685
>>2086688
Unthinkable. There is absolutely no way Mami would ever do that.

>>2086688
Hopefully tie her up and ball gag her, while she fucks her friends with a strap on.

>>2086685
Terrible ones, as they never report the big tittied blonde who is clearly up to no good.

>>2086704
>Reporting the the big titty blonde who gives you cake and tea

>>2086709
Well at least Mami will do great in the kitchen in prison...

Dammit now I'm wondering what a prison AU would be like. All I can really think of is that everyone in the main cast aside from Madoka is in the joint and Mami is in because statutory rape and Homura is in for basically the same reason Nick Cage was in prison in Con Air, only with more bullets and more bodies.

Man what a retarded idea...

>>2086716
I'd fap to it.

>>2086723
We're on /u/, say schlitck.

Not that there would be much to masturbate to. Though Madoka does very much seem like the sort to be fine with conjugals. Mami is obviously shit out of luck and I'm thinking that Kyoko and Sayaka used to be cellmates and thusly able to fuck pretty much whenever but their usual bickering when they weren't fucking got annoying and they got separated. Thus Kyoko becomes Homura's cell mate.

>>2086685
Nagisa might be their onee-sama.

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>>2086727
And thus begins great shipping

>>2086727
>Kyoko becomes Homura's cell mate
That reminds me, I can't seem to find this one 4-koma pixiv comic where the last panel involves Homura joining Kyouko in a cell with Kyouko offering some Pocky while saying 'want some?'. Does anyone have it?

>>2086823
Nope. Homura is a good girl who would never do anything sexual without her mistress' permission..

>>2086835
But look what she did in Rebellion...

>>2086838
She's just trying to tip the power balance, but she's not cut out for it. Madoka will punish her soon enough.

>>2086838
The issues caused by Homura's mental instability and the meddling of the Incubators are not her fault.

Plus that is that and not what I am speaking of.

>>2086838
She only did that to help Madoka. It's the only thing that'll make her go against her wishes.

>>2086843
It depends how far she'll go to help Madoka.
Far enough to fuck Kyouko to strengthen their bond for future favors? Like if Kyouko's loyalty is put to the test when Mami eventually goes full psycho (clearly a matter of time), that fuck buddy thing might tip the balance in Homura's favor
I mean she'd do anything for Madoka's sake, right? Even if she has cuck her (and feel bad about it, no doubt).

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How does someone get personal secretary status in the law of cycles? Does she just hand it out to her friends or is there some training period evolved?

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>>2086840
Madoka has been busy ever since becoming god, so Homura just started acting out to get her mistresses attention again.
She's eagerly awaiting her punishment.

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>>2086709
Mami's loli lust crosses dimensions.

>>2086946
Does Aniplex hate Sayaka and Kyouko? They're not getting any love from Madogatari. I really want a Monkey/Kyouko crossover pair figure.

>>2086784

No comment

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NSFW Madokami and Akumura

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>>2087244
samples~

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>>2087244

>>2087244
Thank you scanon!

>>2086904
>pic
>translation never.

>>2087336
http://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/11033
It was translated almost as soon as it was posted on Pixiv..

Anyone still keep those greentext fanfic which Madoka was domming Homura so hard?

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>>2087420
You mean these?
I don't know about any greentext ones but I can post the rest of these if you want.

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Madogatari in September (2017 is a typo). Maybe we'll get some news at the event considering it's so close to the 3rd year anniversary of Rebellion and the end of Wraith Arc.

>>2087521
Yeah yeah
We get them every year.

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>>2085205
Magical girl sandwich edition?
Here, have some team traffic light.

>>2087502
Yes this is what i was looking for. Thanks anon.

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>>2087574

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thats all I have

There's another part to this one I never got a screenshot of, but it was posted on a /u/ Madoka thread a while ago. I don't have time to weed through the archives right now though.

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>>2087591
Im the nee-san who that capped those. Here is the second part.

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>>2087592

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>>2087593

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>>2087595
Lewd Pink 4ever

>>2087587
>pink taco
Gets me every time

>>2087521
Shinbo, the boy who cried wolf.

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What are some good madohomu fanfics in which madoka is the more dominant girl in the relationship? Doesn't have to be smut only.

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>>2087866
Here's the only one I know of, though its kind of silly.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11211457/1/50-Shades-of-Pink

I'd definitely like some more MaDOMoka, something about the sweet innocent type showing their bad side is really sexy. Combine that with the seemingly more dominate girl getting bullied and loving it is just great.

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What about bully Kyouko?

>>2087882
Surely that should be MaDOMka?

>>2088375
Or perhaps just Domoka?

>>2087866
>What are some good madohomu fanfics
Could have stopped there. I think all the doujins saturated the fandom.

>>2087521
I think Madoka is done. Rebellin was beautiful film with great music and animation and perfect ending.
Making something so good again would be impossible, making something worse is pointless.

>>2088459
If that last 30 minutes didn't happen, and it just ended with Homura being taken into the law of cycles, I would agree with this 100%...
However, as things are that ending kind of shook everything up again and took that nice tightly bound up story and sent loose ends shooting out all over the place. Now, a third movie actually is necessary.

It could be good. The series also felt pretty complete, and rebellion was a nice continuation. Maybe they can pull that off again.

>>2088459
>Inconclusive sequel bait
>Perfect ending

>>2088468
Yeah, there's difference between an open ending and an ending where literally anything could happen. Rebellion openly sets up a conflict and lead into a sequel. It's also not unusual for things to take this long considering SHAFT's Kizumonogatari schedue. Even if it's not fucking spectacular, the series meeds legitimate closure.

>>2088468
Homura is protagonist in Rebellion. By all canons she has to have the most impact and has decide what to do by herself. Ending was perfect, your sequel is not needed. There is still lots of hope that it will never happen.

>>2088459
>Making something so good again would be impossible, making something worse is pointless.
That's what everyone thought at the end of the series.

>>2088473
>>Inconclusive sequel bait
oh, so I see, you don't like Rebellion and you are the guy who so SUUUUUUUURE they make your sequel. I told it in 2013, I will tell you now: sequel will not happen.

>Anime Expo 2014
>Urobuchi: I'm currently coming up with material and ideas for a sequel
>Kirara Magica April 2015
>Shinbo: Quartet regularly talks about it and are coming up woth ideas
>Madogatari November 2015:
>Concept movie debuts and credits InuCurry, Quartet, Kajiura, and voice actors
>NewType December 2015
>SHAFT President confirms sequel
>February and April 2016
>Shinbo: We've completed concept material and are working on the script. Keep yourself entertained with Wraoth Arc and Madogatari

Everything seems to be moving pretty smoothly. I really don't know why people think this isnt going to happen.

>>2088482
>You don't like Rebellion
I loved Rebellion. That doesn't change the fact its ending was inclusive sequel bait.

>>2088480
That's right. But atleast they announced it very soon and it's release date, so we could wait and speculate. What we have now? Literally nothing.

>>2088487
>I really don't know why people think this isnt going to happen.
They want to be wordly anime insiders, no matter how many announcements they have to ignore to keep the fantasy going.

>>2088489
As you don't see the ending as perfect conclusion, you don't like it and don't even understand it. You simply like characters(not the movie) and want to see them more.
>>2088487
Because there is only one important thing: official announcement from aniplex with show format and release date
if they really were doing something, it would be already happened

>>2088498
Check out this badass anime expert.

>>2088503
I get that most anons don't consider the mangas canon, but they are content. If we include Wraith Arc, then 2014 was literally the only year with no Madoka content released. And 2014 came right after they were just coming down off of Rebellion.

Watch it be a new Madoka Magica show only in Taiwanese puppets

>>2088494
>They want to be wordly anime insiders, no matter how many announcements they have to ignore to keep the fantasy going.
lol'd so hard, but yeah, pretty much this.

>>2088509
I honestly wouldn't doubt working on the puppet show gave Gen some ideas. The whole series is Homura's puppet theater at this point anyways.

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>>2088498
>As you don't see the ending as perfect conclusion, you don't like it and don't even understand it.
ACK? Is that you? Talking about something other than crack?

Anyway, you can have an overall positive opinion of something (like it) while still having a few complaints. Nothings perfect, and if you only "like" things that you consider "perfect" then either you have very low standards for what perfect is or you don't like many things at all.

Rebellion was great, but with some flaws. The ending being one of those flaws. The sequel can and probably will fix that though.

Another flaw is that Mami's mamis were still not QUITE big enough. Hopefully they rectify this in the next project.

>>2088520

I agree that the ending is stupidly open ended, but I'm not sure if that's a flaw. The core emotional point of the movie was homura finally breaking in a way that can't just be recovered by Madoka smiling at her, and the question of what happens next is way to big to hint at or even really touch on in any depth. You can't have Homura actually break entirely and not be left with many questions of 'well, what's left then?'

Many movies/shows end extremely open ended and with much debate about what happens next, but they weren't made to be sequel bait. I think that making an ending that is very easy to continue from is not the same as making one that is intended to ensure a sequel. If Rebellion bombed for whatever reason, I doubt people would be talking about how it was clearly only half of a story.

>>2088529
>If Rebellion bombed for whatever reason, I doubt people would be talking about how it was clearly only half of a story.

In the end, that's what it comes down to: if Rebellion had bombed, they could say "it's over, sorry not sorry" and not have to commit to a sequel. I think most people embraced it though and said "what next?". It would have taken Aniplex 6 months to even really get an accurate gauge of that.

The fact is Madoka is anime original and doesn't have a manga or LN to really pull from, so it's bound to take some time to continue off of.

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>>2088482
Wrong. New Madoka sequel has already been confirmed. No info if it will be a movie or a series. All will be revealed in due time

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>>2087882
>the sweet innocent type showing their bad side is really sexy.
>MaDOMoka

Oh god, yes!

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>>2088894
MaDOMka and SUBmura 4ever

>>2085346
>>2085378
>>2085530
>>2086855
>>2085472
>hand holding
Uhg, how lewd.

>>2086904
>>2085538
>>2085281
>>2085211
>>2085208
Checks out.

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>>2088898
Damn right! It's a shame there's so little stuff for that. Madoka would make a really cute dom.

>>2088732
Or a single OVA or just one more concept movie.

Sarcasm off, it is not announcement, it's absolutely not a 100% confirmation.

>>2088520
>Rebellion was great, but with some flaws. The ending being one of those flaws. The sequel can and probably will fix that though.
You don't like the ending, so you pray for unexisted sequel to fix everything as you like. I can tell you that there are a lot of people that are satisfied with current ending.
Concept movie and other stuff were just marketing: "We may do something some day, sokeep buying our stuff". If they really were doing something, there would be no problem to officially announce it. Plenty of time has passed to tell that sequel won't happen.

>>2089330
Well, 'don't like the ending' might be a little bit of an overstatement. I'll say I didn't 'love' the ending, and feel that it is incomplete and could use some continuation to wrap things up again. I personally would have loved an ending where Homura joined Madoka in the law of cycle and lived happily ever after.

> If they really were doing something, there would be no problem to officially announce it.
You are right. Until we get that official announcement, it is not set in stone... however...
>>2088487
seems they are trying pretty hard to trick people into thinking they are working on a new project, if it is indeed as you say.
I'd say our chances of getting a new project are pretty good, but yeah, its technically not a guarantee as of right now.

>>2089330
>Baiting autist responding to day old posts to get attention to shit posting
>>2089392
>seems they are trying pretty hard to trick people into thinking they are working on a new project, if it is indeed as you say.

They'd have no reason to trick anyone. It prints money and they could jist sell figures and spin-off manga till the end of time without continuing the story. We've had Shinbo, SHAFT, and Aniplex already confirm a sequel is being made.

>>2089424
>They'd have no reason to trick anyone.
Yeah, wasn't saying I think that's what they are actually doing. Of course they are not trying to trick anyone, they would have no reason to and it would only piss off the fans.

>>2089446
Fans would be pissed off even more if they were absolutely silent.

>>2089539
>Afraid of pissing off fans by not giving them something they never promised
>Solve problem by promising something they have no intent to deliver

Who hurt you anon?

>>2089549
I didn't see they promised something. People from different places including some japanese anons are very sceptical about sequel too. Only here people are literally ready to tell release date.

remember how kizumonogatari was going to come out in 2012?

its SHAFT, they're always behind schedule. It'd be worse if they set a date and miss it like they will inevitably have to

there probably hasn't been an anouncment for the simple fact that it wont be coming out for another couple of years. they probably don't want to officially announce something thats so far away.

>>2089600
If it's not coming in next couple of years, then it may not come at all. Even if they have plans for now, it can be changed.

>>2089608
>If it's not coming in next couple of years, then it may not come at all

The same could be said of literally any fucking movie in the history of animation. You're just being a fucktard.

Urobuchi started writing the script to Madoka in 2009 and took a full year to complete, at a rate of one episode a month. It didn't debut until 2011. Rebellion followed a similar timetable. If they started production and are now focused on script writing, then script writing alone would take a minimum of a year to be completed, followed by a minimum of another year's production. I know you're retarded, but this is a normal production time table. This has a MINIMUM premeire date December 2017.

If you're so convinced there is no sequel, then just let everyone else be retarded and hope for it while you sit there smugly knowing there will never be a sequel.

>>2089763
But as far as I remember the new project hasn't been branded as a "sequel".
The dialogues from the concept movie hint towards a post-rebellion timeframe. But Homura still has her meguca dress and her shield from the pre-LoC timeframe.
It might well be a different timeline or even a complete reboot.

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>But as far as I remember the new project hasn't been branded as a "sequel"
Shinbo already used the word sequel/continuation in the Feb and April issues of Kirara.

>The dialogues from the concept movie hint towards a post-rebellion timeframe.
The dialogue and scenes were explicitly post-Rebellion. Homura had her fucking earring on and her and Madoka were going over Rebellion's ending. Not to mention Nagisa's presence confirms post-Rebellion.

>But Homura still has her meguca dress and her shield from the pre-LoC timeframe.
She has her dress in the InuCurry devil concept art. She also had her meguca dress on during Rebellion despite being a witch. It's no different than Madoka wearing her normal meguca outfit in Rebellion. Devil Homura and Ultimate Madoka are aspects of Homura and Madoka. but they've obviously been shown to take on human/meguca form. That could also be a wraith. And the devil along with the Claras made an appearance in the added material at Osaka, Saporro, and Nagoya.

>It might well be a different timeline or even a complete reboot.
I really don't know how you could come to that conclusion considering everything is explicitly post-Rebellion.

>>2089839
>I really don't know how you could come to that conclusion considering everything is explicitly post-Rebellion.
I think this is a case of someone saying something retarded by claiming the movie isn't happenin, then realizing he said something retarded, is now trying to defend his retarded thoughts down to the bitter end instead of just admitting he is wrong.

The movies/series is happening people, get over it.

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>>2089839
Informative post, thank you.

>>2089839
Meguca Homura is 100% wraith.

>>2089763
I'm not being a fucktard, I just politely trying to explain some things. And you constantly agro on me, because you don't like what I say.
First of all, we don't even know who writes the script now. Urobuchi has NEVER said he is going to do more Madoka. SO HOW do you that they are focused on script writing if you don't know the writer?
Rebellion was officially ANNOUNCED(not this bullshit we have now) right after series has ended(last bluray). Now there is huge time gap between Rebellion and today and still no proper announcement.
And the last thing, we don't even know FORM of new project. How they can do something, if they don't know what they are doing? If it really was a series or a film, they would told it long ago. It's not a problem at all.
You can be rude how much you want, but I can tell for sure they aren't doing a shit now and sequel's chances to happen are very low.

>>2090054
>And the last thing, we don't even know FORM of new project. How they can do something, if they don't know what they are doing?
Just because they hadn't told us exactly what they are doing doesn't mean they don't know what they are doing.

>>2090118
There is literally nothing you can tell this anon that will change there mind that Madoka will never get a sequel. No amount of announcements, quotes from the past 2 years by any member of Quartet, press releases, common sense, or reason will get through to this anon.

>>2090120
Yeah and his only real argument is just 'no official announcement'. Granted, an official announcement would set it in stone, but the lack of one doesn't negate everything else we have seen that proves something is in the works.

>>2090126
And I'm sure there are some serious discussions at going on at SHAFT about movie v. true season 2. You could do more in a season, but the TV budget for an apocalyptic scenario like the one shown would be a tremedous step down from Rebellion (not to mention I can't think of a time when a game changing canon movie ever continued on TV), and the time gap alone would have noticable affects on viewership. They could do a movie and maximize profits from the fan base and have a larger budget, but they might have to cut some elements of a longer story. And both of those options are hit by the fact it has taken them time to think of a way to continue it.

I personally don't disagree that Rebellion is a thematic conclusion to Homura's series story and we could have stopped there. I think any continuation is for the fan base and to give the fans closure. Even the Material booklet said they would only consider a Rebellion sequel if the fan base really wanted it. That's why I lean more toward movie than season.

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>>2090137
-cont-
And even if Rebellion was a great thematic end to Homura's series story, I don't believe the story can truly conclude until her and Madoka are reunited in some fashion.

>>2090126
you guys are acting dumb, I cant claim I know if that guy is not stupid since I didn't read much of his posts, but often companies will R and D a concept for a long time before abandoning it. It's entirely possible that this project will be going along too slow and be cancelled, especially if SHAFT gets another bigger success that they;d rather devote resources to than meguca. Megucas has plenty of evidence that it is not happening, not because there isn't evidence that it will happen but because what we have gotten doesn't give it much hope for seeing an actual release even if they want it to happen. Even evangelion gets a reboot every now and then so I wouldn't say the chances of a late sequel is impossible but you definitely shouldn't hold your breath.

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>>2087596
I hate all of these. Madoka would never be such a cruel master as risking homura getting branded a sexual deviant in public, nor abandomnent play when homura is so wracked from being left alone and having to bear that burden.

Madoka is a kind master who would make Homura know her place is always by her side or at her feet. Not chained alone and potentially raped by passerbys to a tree.

>>2090164
Yeah, some of these are a little hardcore, I wouldn't mind Madoka toning it down a few notches and just being sickeningly loving with her pet.
Madoka is still a cute dom and for the most part I like pretty much all of these. The one where she leaves her on the tree is the only one that bothers me too much.

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>>2090164
The one where Homura is openly distressed is the one that made me a bit uncomfortable. I can see the school board one happening because that was Homura trying to prove she's a dedicated slave. I'd want them to be more loving as well.

Autistic theory: Madokami wears high heels so that she can stand face-to-face with Homucifer.

>>2090235
I'll accept it

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>>2090235
Cute, I'll allow it.

>>2090235
Can't she make herself taller?

I want a reboot, not sequel. So I hope it has really ended with Rebellion.

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>>2090436
It's only been 5 years. What could you possibly want a reboot for?

>>2090436
>What is Beginnings and Eternal
Seriously though, would you even want a reboot? I can understand skepticism toward the idea of a continuation. The series as it stands though is already cemented as one of the best, if not the best, original anime of the decade. Rebooting it would be pointless.

>>2090458
Flesh it out into a 50-some episode series which much deeper character development.

Yeah, that's never going to happen though. Just saying, that would be one reason for a reboot.

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>>2090195
There's a fine line between pushing her subs limits and just being abusive. I really like the former with anything related to this kind of play, but there should also be respect for her feelings. Lacking that, and it starts to seem more abusive which is 1. messed up and 2. totally not Madoka.

Haven't seen anything from this writer in two months, but if he/she is still around that's something to keep in mind if more of these end up getting posted.

>>2090466
>50-some episode
Pls no

>>2090486
>50 episodes
>Beach episodes
>Hot springs episodes
>Filler "villains
>Pointlessly drawn out action sequences
>Mami being relevant

It's like everything Madoka stood against.

>>2090498
>Beach episodes
>Hot springs episodes
I do always enjoy these two things though.

>>2090498
I was thinking instead of a 5 minutes flashback to KYoko's past they could end up spending a couple episodes. Show her with her family and maybe tie in TDS
They could spend more time on Homura's time loops.
Spend more time with KYoko and Sayaka getting to know eachother and falling in love.
That's just off the top of my head, I'm sure there is much more that can be fleshed out.

Well, not that I think this is necessary. Just saying if a reboot WERE to happen that might be the reason.

Beach episodes and hot springs wouldn't be unwelcomed though.

>>2090498
Needs actual sex episodes tbqh.

>>2090514
Madoka works because it leaves you wanting more. I think it would be shit if it were any longer desu.

>>2090514
>Spend more time with KYoko and Sayaka getting to know eachother and falling in love.
>Rewrite two entire character arcs for the sake of pandering
Man, I like yuri as much as any other nee-san, but a major theme of the series was missed connections. The four girls were made for each other, but it just wasn't meant to be as things were.

>>2090519
Not to mention those are character defining moments as they are. The impact of how Kyouko's recounts her backstory in those 5 minutes is what makes it strong, not the fact it happens. She's angry and resentful, not crying about it. It's a painful event in her life that she's trying her damnedest to repress and compensate for. Same with episode 10: it showed the absolute worst aspects of Homura's journey to save her one and only and ended with her affirming her resolve to save Madoka. Making it longer doesn't add anything to it.

>>2090458
Rebellion is true ending and the end of their ideas. Only complete restart and remake of the series/movies can bring something good again.

>>2090699
Thank you for your opinion.

>>2090724
Fuck your sequel and your headcanon specualtions. Madoka has ended with Rebellion. Do you think they can do something better than high budget Rebellion where whole staff put their soul? Fuck, never.

>>2090731
Thank you for your opinion.

>>2090699
I don't see the point since Rebellion ended in a open ended manner. Nothing is resolved as a result and Rebellion's ending makes it quite clear that there is more story to tell. They are just not telling it, yet.

That said, The series hasn't been dormant for all that long. At most three years? A reboot now would seem needless, unless that is what the Magical Quartet wants (in which they do what they want, but an explaintion would be likely)

>>2092924
1. Don't reply to him. He's autistic enough to be troll.

2. This is obvious to anyone with a pulse.
>The series hasn't been dormant for all that long
It really hasn't. Wraith Arc has been running since last June. Even though it's a manga, it's still content and serious content at that. 2014 was pretty much the only year with no serious Madoka content or updates. Japan is still getting doing plenty of Madoka stuff regardless.

>>2092924
Rebellion has open ending, but it doesn't mean it's a sequel bait. If they were gonna spam more sequels they would already made them or alteast announce something. 3 years is a plenty of time to do it.
>>2092947
I'm not trolling. I just expect not pleasurable but more realistic outcome.

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>>2087592
Thanks for reposting this stuff, it's pretty encouraging to see people are actually into this, and motivated me to do some more with it.
I want to start turning these into full length chapters which would probably be too long to just post here on 4chan so I'm going to start posting them on FFN and AO3
AO3 requires I wait a while before I can make an account, but here is a link to the FFN one

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12050662/1/Madoka-s-Pet

It's the classroom scene, which has had minor tweaks and fixes throughout and at least a thousand words added to the end, after Madoka and Homura leave the classroom.

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>>2090164
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Yeah, since originally these were pretty short I was being a little over the top since the format didn't really allow time to properly build emotions.
I'm doing this more properly now so the master/slave relationship should be a little more loving in the future. Though, still on the 'hardcore' side because it just wouldn't be any fun otherwise.

>>2093540
Dominate should be Dominant in the summary.

>>2093439
>Rebellion has open ending, but it doesn't mean it's a sequel bait.
No it doesn't, but that doesn't mean that Madoka as a series is finished. Given how Gen works a plot, I expected there to be some considerable time between content.

When it concerns animated works, there hasn't been much. Manga on the other hand has been much more lucrative to keep things purring until what every Studio Shaft has planned arrives.

>>2094267
> but that doesn't mean that Madoka as a series is finished
Many other things do.
The only thing which gives hopes for sequel is concept movie. But not that much hope as you think, otherwise it would be called trailer.
>Given how Gen works a plot
There is not a single statement that Gen works or even will work at Madoka project again.

>>2094362
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-08/madoka-magica-concept-movie-will-be-core-of-new-project/.96224
>He confirms that the project will not end with just the concept movie, but will launch a brand new Puella Magi Madoka Magica project.
I have to assume that the content of the concept movie would have something to do with the project in question. The concept movie sure looked like stuff that could be in a sequel to me.

You are right, there is no proof Gen will be involved at this point, but lets hope. I don't see any reason to think he wouldn't be, though.

>>2094362
>Urobuchi states multiple times he has been putting together ideas and wants to do a sequel
>Shinbo regularly meets with Urobuchi and Ume to discuss new project ideas

Wew lass

>>2094372
He said he was interested in a sequel at some point nearly a month after Rebellion.

>>2094410
>Urobuchi states multiple times he has been putting together ideas and wants to do a sequel
>Shinbo regularly meets with Urobuchi and Ume to discuss new project ideas

can you cite your sources on this? I personally haven't seen anything from Urobuchi regarding the new project.

>He said he was interested in a sequel at some point nearly a month after Rebellion.
That was quite a long time ago. Is there any RECENT statements from him?

>>2094372
>You are right, there is no proof Gen will be involved at this point, but lets hope.

I don't see how he would refuse, given that he is a part of the production committee (the Magical Quartet) that is involve with a franchise that seems to have no signs in stopping when it comes to removing people from their hard earned money. It would be rather bizarre for him to walk away from that since it clearly doesn't take much of his time and since then he was worked on other projects with other companies. But stranger things have happened.

>>2094428
>That was quite a long time ago. Is there any RECENT statements from him?
I don't think so since Madoka is not the only think that he is famous for. So I doubt that it would be anything past a year after rebellion. That said, I remember that Gen said at one point that he would like to see what another writer could do with the setting... but with Gen, you take most things with a gain of salt. He can, and does, troll.

>>2090251
Madokami is a concept, she shouldn't be throwing her life away!

>>2094428
>Anime Expo 7-8-2014
>We created this anime with vigor, but I didn’t think it would be well-received by so many people all over the world. I’m worried about what to do for the sequel."

>Kirara April 2015
>IWAKAMI: I still get in touch with Shaft's [Mitsutoshi] Kubota, [Gen] Urobuchi and Ume Aoki on a regular basis, and even now, Madoka Magica keeps coming up. We keep saying we want to do something, but nothing concrete has come out of it yet.

>Concept Movie Press Release 12-8-2015
>Magica Quartet—the team behind the Puella Magi Madoka Magica anime, consisting of director Akiyuki Simbo, character designer Ume Aoki, scriptwriter Gen Urobuchi (Nitroplus), and animation studio Shaft—have continued plans for a new work since the Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Movie Part 3: Rebellion film opened in October 2013. The concept movie was born from their meetings

It sounds like he's actively engaged in the project and I've read other similar statements in the past. In another interview he even said he wanted to make Sayaka a lone wolf type figure in Homura's new world. This shit isn't hidden.

>>2094456
>That said, I remember that Gen said at one point that he would like to see what another writer could do with the setting

Personally I think he was just burned out.

>Interviewer: Hey Gen, I know this is basically paid promotion and we're here to talk about Psycho Pass: the Movie/Expelled from Paradise/Thunderbolt Fantasy/Kamen Rider Gaim, but can you confirm that you'll be writing the next unnannounced Madoka project?

I really hope the average nee-san understands why no professional interviewer would seriously ask this question.

>>2094631
As much as I agree with you, this IS 4chan. "Deny the obvious, uphold the inane!" as the meme goes.

>>2094603
>Personally I think he was just burned out.
So do I, and as I said... the man does troll. My guess, since that was around the media scrum of the manga's hitting after Rebellion, he was likely trying to give himself some distance for the franchise for a bit.
Gen has said before that the last thing that he wants is to be known for one thing and one thing only. It is likely why, as a writer, he has jumped around a bit from project to project.
I have to respect him for that.

>>2093545
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12050662/1/Madoka-s-Pet
putting homura in danger of getting expelled or suspended in school is not being a good master.

>>2094708
>Trolling
His interviews make it apparent that it's almost impossible to get a straight answer from him.

>Gen has said before that the last thing that he wants is to be known for one thing and one thing only. It is likely why, as a writer, he has jumped around a bit from project to project.

Yeah, he even said he doesn't want to limit himself to just anime. He enjoys what he does and doesn't seem like he's on path to becoming Anno "I hate what I've created with a passion" Hideki or anything. I'm glad he doesn't feel the need to push one singular thing just because that's what fans want.

>>2094603
That's the same kind of news from 2012 where Gen promised two more seasons after Rebellion.
Chances that sequel will ever happen is 50% no more no less

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>>2094708
I didn't realize that meme originated with Madoka. But with posters like >>2095134
I guess it makes sense.

>>2095149
I see you are simply delusional and stupid. If sequel don't come out, it will be painful for you the most. Sadly only few people outside listen what I say.
This >>2094603 entire post contains only some plans and specualtions. There is literally zero evidence of something that could be considered as confirmation.They simply can't say straight that they won't make anything in new future. So they just say something, so stupid fans like you won't be pissed off. Then most of people will slowly forget about it and they won't even say anything about Madoka again. I wonder how more years need to pass until you give up too.

>>2095233
Sequels to things have come out decades after they were a thing. One day at a time. We never know.

>>2095245
or never

>>2094909
>His interviews make it apparent that it's almost impossible to get a straight answer from him.

It's mostly because if he was straight forward, he would spoil his twists himself. By just working on a project, since his days at Nitro+, there is an expectation to his writing when it comes to themes that he gravitates towards. Trolling on his work allows him to have some unpredictability.

> Yeah, he even said he doesn't want to limit himself to just anime. He enjoys what he does and doesn't seem like he's on path to becoming Anno "I hate what I've created with a passion" Hideki or anything. I'm glad he doesn't feel the need to push one singular thing just because that's what fans want.

As I said, I have to respect that. That said, he's had that phase.... It's called Fate/Zero. Ironically, it would be Madoka that pushes him past that phase. Hope is much more of a reoccurring theme after the series and what he did before the Fate/Zero light novel is rather telling.

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>>2095330
>In regard to his interviews
And that makes total sense. I think that's why I enjoy reading them. He and Shinbo are both known for deflecting questions, so it's great reading their joint interviews in hindsight.

>That said, he's had that phase.... It's called Fate/Zero.
>Muh organ made of organs
I'm a little disappointed that scene wasn't in the anime. Yeah, I remeber reading his Black Past interview talking about that. I feel like there are anons who have this idea that he sits there thinking of new ways to be edgy, but his work Madoka onward don't reflect that at all. Even if Madoka is dark, it's certainly not edgy and I find it heartwarming in certain thematic regards. And outside of anime Thunderbolt Fantasy is just a blast.

General note: High res visuals for Nanto clothing crossoverare out.

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>>2093540
Thank you, anon! Subby Homura is my favorite and has a huge lack of content, so this is a nice surprise. I'll be looking forward to more.

>>2095467
>I feel like there are anons who have this idea that he sits there thinking of new ways to be edgy, but his work Madoka onward don't reflect that at all.

Because there are some anons that really get off on the impact that a edgy story can bring. That said, I always feel that is a matter of the plot structure that brings that impact or not, and really said plot will dictate any enjoyment of a title.
In a word, is the plot needs to be edgy to make any sense... then fine but not every story needs to be Saya no Uta.

>>2092924
It's simply commercially wrong to make a sequel of the show/movie that were airing 7-8 years ago. Rebellion required complete knowledge of the series or it was just waste of time. How will they show sequel after 2-3 years if most of people forget everything? Reboot or completely new story are their only options.

>>2095730
Stop pulling industry facts out of your ass.

>>2095730
>>2095730
>Rebellion required complete knowledge of the series
Homura explains the parts absolutely necessary for the viewer to understand the film to be honest. I wouldn't watch Rebellion by itself mind you, but there is plenty of exposition and dialogue that fill in viewers gaps of knowledge. And ultimately the only thing viewers have to know going into the next project is that "Because god couldn't have these things that made her happy, lizard girl pitied god so she kidnapped half of her and brought down to earth".

And I know this is crazy, but fans have between now and the release of the new project to rewatch the series and Rebellion. You know, the one publically avaliable ln bluray and dvd? And get this, maybe Aniplex could book air time or threater space and show Beginnings+Eternal+Rebellion as we get closer to the actual release if they really felt they needed to. Absolutely insane, right?

>>2095730
>It's simply commercially wrong to make a sequel of the show/movie that were airing 7-8 years ago.
No, as I said before Magical Quartet does what they want. If they think that there is a good story to tell 7-8 latter with some chance. They will.
If they don. they don't. The Magical Quartet is not obligated to fans to keep producing there candy. And that is not the worse that can happen to a franchise (Nanoha at this point has pulls some assine things in comparison).

> Rebellion required complete knowledge of the series or it was just waste of time.

Rebellion took a very broad strokes approach to the backstory, so "complete knowledge of the series" isn't really required for viewing. As a movie, it is structured enough that if you get the cliffnote's version (which is what the movies, Beginnings and Eternal, are) a viewer should not be completely lost in the plot and from there Homura fills in the blanks (at least from her perspective which we latter find out is warped).

> How will they show sequel after 2-3 years if most of people forget everything?
Maybe, as part of a marketing push, the movies are shown again... or maybe for the new story to work, a viewer needs to come to it fresh. There are many ways to solve that question aside from a Reboot.

>>2095467
It always amuses me/warms my heart that Gen called his shot in Fate/Zero (healing type writer angst), then knocked it out the park with MadoMagi. It's nice to see someone succeed like that.

Unrelated note: that 50 Shades of Pink fic was fucking hilarious. I love me some crack. Like Madoka and Homura being switches or Homu breaking Hitomi into some Forbidden Love

>>2095467
Link to the Black Past interview?

>>2096069
https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Shinjidai_no_Mixture_Magazine_BLACK_PAST

>>2096028
>As a movie, it is structured enough that if you get the cliffnote's version (which is what the movies, Beginnings and Eternal, are)
Beginnings and Eternal have 99% of the story intact. The only thing that changes is they omitted Mami's wish and the scene where Homura tries to kill Sayaka.

>>2095730
>It's simply commercially wrong to make a sequel of the show/movie that were airing 7-8 years ago
At the risk of revealing my ethnicity, Dragon Ball Z got a direct sequel that nobody asked for 20 years after it finished.

>>2096028
>Rebellion took a very broad strokes approach to the backstory, so "complete knowledge of the series" isn't really required for viewing.

With the time looping and all, I'd say the events of the final timeline prior to Madoka's wish don't even matter in Rebellion. The series events are negated and the only one with any recollection is Homura. Madoka's sacrifice and Homura's looping are really the only actions that mattered in the end, so I think it would have been kind of pointless for the story to dwell on anything beyond those two actions. Perhaps a snag in a sequel is that since Madoka and Homura are such powerful, fate altering characters at this point that the other girls only become more and more insignificant in comparison as the series moves on. Mami might get a power up, but ultimately this is a dialogue driven franchise. It's hard to believe that such a undeveloped character would have significant impact at this late in the story. Just my two cents.

>>2095730
>Dragon Ball Super
>Death Note sequel story
>Star Wars prequels
>Star Wars sequels
>Hobbit trilogy
>Sword Art Online movie (2017)
>Commercially unacceptable after 2-3 years

WEW LASS

>>2096183
And the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Jurassic World, Independence Day: Resurgence, the upcoming Potter films...

>>2096243
Yeah, a few minutes of research would show 3-4 years is pretty average for an all new sequel project. Hell, it was three and a half years between Eva 2.0 and 3.0 and that shit was announced and supposed to have been planned.

So how do you lot think the rest of the cast would react to finding out about Madoka and Homura's D/S relationship?

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>>2096275
D/S?... Dom Sub?
Sayaka will harass Homura about it
Kyoko will support it
Mami will want in.

>>2096278
Harass seems like a strong word, tease fits better.

Also Mami has her loli

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>>2096275
Surprised at first because they would have assumed the dark and brooding Homura had Madoka on a leash. I feel like it's something Madoka would try to hide but may have tried to subtly push on the other girls before meeting Homura. Like she'd have no romantic interest in Sayaka or Mami because their personalities don't allow her to dominate them. After a some thought on the situation, the other girls would realize that all the signs of Madoka being a closet dom were there in hindsight.

Sayaka and Kyouko would probably try to tease Homura, but don't really get a chance to because Homura submissive personality only comes out for Madoka and Madoka only. Teasing her about it would only be asking for the demon to be unleashed. Of course she only gets mad because she feels it's an attack on her master. Homura feels no embarassment over being an eternal slave to her master.

>>2096280
>Mami: A shame Kaname-san and Akemi-san are too old...

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>>2096283
-Cont
Tomohisa expected it. Junko is proud her daughter grew to be the dom she always wanted her to be. Hitomi is permanently triggered. Saotome has flashbacks to her and Junko's school days. Kyubey just doesn't get it.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1248558?tags=yuri+kaname_tomohisa+kaname_madoka+akemi_homura

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>>2096283
>Like she'd have no romantic interest in Sayaka or Mami because their personalities don't allow her to dominate them.
I think Sayaka most certainly has potential to be a sub, just not for Madoka.

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>>2096318
Also, Kyoko learned from the best.

>>2096318
Eh Kyoko and Sayaka have the "fight to see who gets to top tonight" sort of relationship imo.

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>>2096320
And who do you think usually wins?

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>>2096325

>>2096325
Depends on how hungry Kyoko is.

>>2096318
Kyouko and Sayaka are into sadism/masochism. Madoka and Homura are into master/slave.

>>2096318
I don't entirely agree. Sayaka wouldn't be into humiliation play or master/slave like how people have been characterizing Homura, but relatively gentle dom/sub stuff is right up her alley. It plays into her fantasy of being the selfless, protective champion of some incredible partner. She'd love to be the obedient knight and follow nice clear orders and get to focus on nothing but pleasing and worshipping her mistress and being told that she's good and she did a good job.

>>2096437
Whoops, lost my train of thought while typing and didn't explain how this is disagreeing with you. The point is, I think Madoka could be dominant and Sayaka puts Madoka on a pedestal in a way that could make this kind of dom/sub dynamic possible for them, at least in the short term.

>>2095730
I'm sure you were the guy telling Peter Jackson that LOTR wouldn't work because it's too late.

Don't be that guy.

>>2096415
Not entirely sold on them really being into S&M. Though I do bet that Kyouko is into most anything oral related. Which I imagine means that she''ll eventually decide to induce lactation in Sayaka.

>>2096437
Nothing about Sayaka really screams submissive to me. Sure she has the white knight thing going on, but that makes her a beta more than anything and fits into her being a honto baka. Homura on the other hand begins as Moemura and becomes Akuma "Even the pain is precious to me" Homura and demands everyone tell her she's been bad and deserves to be punished, so it's easy to see why she would get off on her own humiliation.

>>2096444
I say S&M because Sayaka's main ability is auto-regen. She was made for rough play with Kyouko! Almost all Kyouko and Sayaka's interaction occurs right before or while they're actively trying to beat the shit out of each other. Even when Kyouko is getting pounded by Octavia, she's seeing it as Sayaka letting off steam. But yes, I also see Kyouko with an oral fixation.

>>2096441
>Lucas, your insane! It's been three years since A New Hope. How could you possibly think anyone would remember that movie and its characters well enough for Empire Strikes Back to succeed.

Fuck, the way anon acts, Madoka may as well be LOTR in terms of scope. It's 5 1/2 miserable lesbians and two universe resets. It's not too hard to pick up where we left off.

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>>2096325
And where did you find that extraordinoary video, anon?

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>>2096472
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?utf8=%E2%9C%93&tags=hangaku+animated_gif+&ms=1
This artist makes lots of gifs

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Sadly the Yuri content is a bit lacking but there are still some pretty cute gifs

Am I just dumb or did the ending of the last moving make no sense. Scratch that, the entire thing didn't really make any sense.

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>>2096634
You have to think about it a bit, the ending represents Homura's mental state. The Hill ending at a bottomless pit and the half moon can be symbolic that her other half, Madoka, is not with her and that Homura believes that she will never be with her.

Madoka needs to be with Homu so they can get their hill back and fuck on the moon.

Will they make a happy spin-off version like Prisma Ilya?

Sayaka and Homura go so well together

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>>2096437
>>2096454
>>2096440
This conversation is giving me some ideas for the other girls and not just Mado/Homu.
I'd like to do kinky stories with Kyoko and Sayaka, but even if Sayaka would sub I don't see Kyoko really taking on the dominant 'mistress' role. It's a tad too elegant of a position for her. Rough sex with each of them fighting to be the top, definitely, and I think Kyoko would win that every time. Sayaka perhaps actually wants to be bottomed but at least wants to save face and try to 'win', but she'll probably be perfectly satisfied once Kyoko comes out on top and has her way with her.

>>2096280
Mami, despite all her potential as a dom, doesn't have a proper sub of her own. Lolis are for snuggling, not doming.

>>2096634
Not dumb, it was made to be that wsy. Just watch it again knowing that the entire purpose of the movie was to rebel against your expectations. Flower garden scene and Kyubey's exposition are the key scenes. Remember anything Homo's says after becoming the devil is unreliable.

>>2096650
Then Mami will have to wait for her loli to grow up, because Madohomu is not a relationship that shares.

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>>2096650
>Kyoko would win that every time
Maybe in the series, but Sayaka's grown a great deal by Rebellion and is shown as Kyouko's equal partner (aside from the part where she's hiding everything from her).

Besides, Kyouko's a lazy hedonist who wants to feel loved. She'd be totally into Sayaka taking her gently but firmly every now and then.

>>2096634
Basically black haired girl has a supercrush on the pink haired girl, but no matter how hard she tried she couldn't get to a point in time where they bumped clams. So she decided to just rewrite the universe to force her oneitis to be with her.

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If Sayaka was allowed to top it might end up going to her head.

Are there any other shows in the "cute lesbians crying in despair" genera?

>>2096720
Yuuki Yuuna?

>>2096733
I was just about to say that

>>2096676
Sayaka's strong but she crumbles really easily, even come Rebellion (see how easily Homura ends up manipulating her). While Kyouko would definitely like being a pillow queen every now and then I bet she still gets a rush from dominating the upstart rookie. And for Homura's control over the universe, a Sayaka on the bottom is easier to keep content in this new universe than a Sayaka on the top (see: >>2096687)

>>2096720
Simoun, maybe?

>>2096754
That was the other one I couldn't think of.

>>2096742
So you're saying Sayaka is a raspberry?

>>2096677
Always bet on black.

>>2096638
It exists; it's called Tomoe Mami's Daily Life.

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>>2096864
Madokami is not pleased

>>2096720
Kannazuki no Miko, Mai-Otome, Utena (but that's really just one lesbian crying while the other stabs gender roles in the dick).

>>2096325
>>2096415
>>2096444
I don't know why everyone always thinks Kyouko would be this sex fiend when she was literally raised by a minister. She has a super conservative background. Despite all her talk I think she'd be blushing and stuttering if her and Sayaka ever got to do the deed.

>>2097180
Preacher's daughters are repressed and needy.

>>2097180
As I recall, the show goes rather out of it's way to indicate that Kyouko's dad was not a minister who preached a traditional message.

>>2097180
>Preacher's daughter
>Munches blue carpet

Nee-san please. While I agree that Kyouko is second only to Homura in terms of inability to communicate her wants and needs to her partner, she's anything but prim and proper.

>>2097249
To be fair, Homura has yet to actually hook up with Madoka, and Kyouko pretty much settled into old married couple territory pretty quickly with Sayaka in the Homura Bubble. I doubt that Kyouko is going to be anything but blunt about her desires once she gets a hold on being in a relationship with Sayaka.

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>>2097256
>Homura never hooked up with Madoka
>Implying
Madoka fucked Moemura at least twice in the series and even fingered Homura's soul while whispering sweet nothings to her while everyone watched in Rebellion.

Seriously though, Kyouko and Homura need both their partners to receive instant character development... I mean gain access to the omniscience of the Law of Cycles to understand their lovers better.

>>2097287
I mean hook ups that didn't immediately go up in flames because plot.

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>>2097289
If were going to be serious about it, the "Old married couple" scenes required Kyouko's personality being rewritten to such a level that even the witch who created the persona thought it was absurd. Kyouko reverted back to skipping school and hanging out at the arcade when she realized it was all BS. Not saying that Kyouko and Sayaka don't love each other, but those old married couple scenes were a jab at KyouSaya fan material. As long as Sayaka's goal remains going to back to the LoC, she's actively rejecting her new life with Kyouko.

>>2097305
>As long as Sayaka's goal remains going to back to the LoC, she's actively rejecting her new life with Kyouko.

Thank goodness, Kyouko is too good for her.

>>2097305
I don't think Kyouko's personality was rewritten, just her circumstances. Going by what she says to Sayaka as they hold hands, she clearly enjoyed being an old married couple with her despite now knowing the truth.

>>2097308
You're not wrong, but I want Kyouko to be happy.

>>2097312
>I don't think Kyouko's personality was rewritten, just her circumstances.
Homura altered their memories and set the conditions. Memories and experience are how we form our personalities. The characters are mostly "in character": Madoka, Mami, and Moemura minus tragedy. Sayaka doesnt have her memories altered and it shows even when she plays along. Kyouko has her memories altered to an extent that greatly changed how she approaches the conditions. Even if Kyouko is a good person deep down, that's still completely different than the character we got in Rebellion. Homura notices this and once they figure things out, Kyouko stops being OOC and returns to being the delinquent with the heart of gold.

>Going by what she says to Sayaka as they hold hands, she clearly enjoyed being an old married couple with her despite now knowing the truth.

Of course she did. She obviously loved every second of the barrier. Friends, school, Sayaka etc. But remember that Kyouko's life she would have to return to is shit: she's homeless, jaded, the catalyst for her family's death and partially responsible for Sayaka's deaths. She had to accept that her good life over the past month was just a happy dream.

>>2097326
Delinquent with a heart of gold is still more than plenty of material to clash with Sayaka's knightlyness. Had Sayaka not been a little bitch about becoming a Lich and hooked up with Kyouko in the show, I'm fairly confident that they'd have ended up with a similar dynamic to what Homura set in the barrier.

>>2097327
>Had Sayaka not been a little bitch about becoming a Lich and hooked up with Kyouko in the show, I'm fairly confident that they'd have ended up with a similar dynamic to what Homura set in the barrier.
If the events of the story were different, I too believe they'd all be happy little homos. That said, Sayaka despaired over dick in the series. The LoC apparently set her right though.

>>2097326
I don't think Kyouko's memories, at least of her family's death and her homelessness, are necessarily wiped out by Homura. Why else would she return to being a delinquent after the bus ride with Homura? All she does is find out the world is fake. She doesn't regain any memories.

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>>2097335
She incepted nearly a years worth of false memories.

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>>2097249
I agree that she definitely isn't prim and proper. I just bet that if Kyouko actually got Sayaka's pants off she wouldn't be the smooth sex fiend that everyone thinks she is but actually be pretty clueless.

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>>2097906
She'd probably know what to do, but you're right that it wouldn't be smooth. She'd be rough as heck.

>>2097906
>Any of these girls knowing what they're doing
Walking up those stairs to adulthood together is what makes it better.

>haven't actually seen madoka and am just aware of it by reputation and fan art
I have a few questions:
1) How much of the relationships is actually in the show vs from doujins/fanworks?
2) From my understanding, madoka is the kind of show where if you don't like sad stories you should avoid it like the plague. Is this accurate?
3) I've seen art/stories of madoka and homura in a bdsm style relationship (more than the normal amount in fan works). Where does that come from? Is there actually evidence of that in the show itself?

>>2098238
1) The MadokaxHomura becomes more and more overt as the series continues. By the end of the third movie it's all but confirmed, but with some unhappy caveats. KyouSaya is more of a take-it-or-leave-it pairing, but again they're stronger in the third movie. Mami has some pretty gay moments but nothing really confirmed. The whole Nagisa thing is more like a pet/sibling relationship.

2) It's not like Bokurano or Narutaru or even Evangelion. It's sad at times, but more bittersweet.

3) Homura hates herself. That kind of translates to people putting her in a subby role (along with her willingness to do most anything for Madoka). Madoka was once really bubbly, which translates to a more dominant role. There's nothing lewd, if you're asking. Very little sexual fanservice in this show.

>>2085205
Just quietly, is that the cover of anything worth reading?

>>2098240
>Very little sexual fanservice in this show.

Besides the naked space tribbing thing

>>2098285
Retconned to skimpily dressed in the movies.

>>2098297

They're really only naked in BD release. TV and manga had the cosmic censoring. I'd count the BD as the "uncut" version.

>>2098285
>naked space tribbing thing
does....does anyone have a screencap of that?

>>2098303
The movies still went backwards for some reason and put them in dresses though.

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>>2098344
Fucking InuCurry!

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>>2098387
Looks like they are wearing skirts with no tops. Somehow that seems even more lewd to me than just being outright naked.

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>>2098394
Yeah, dresses are barely there. If you notice Homura's hair, it's not even really a dress and still looks like the cosmic censoring. It's an artsitic choice and a little more tasteful to be honest. The nudity was supposed to be purity, so meh.

>>2098238
>3) I've seen art/stories of madoka and homura in a bdsm style relationship (more than the normal amount in fan works). Where does that come from? Is there actually evidence of that in the show itself?

Along with what >>2098240 said, both Madoka also has strong feelings of uselessness. While less angsty than Homura, largely due to her support network, most doujins and fan art will either be really sweet or go straight for that underlying angst gravitate toward BDSM. I can't really explain it more without giving major spoilers aways.

>>2098468
>giving major spoilers away
Well, I already know the big twist/reveal (for a show came out five years ago and that made as much of a splash a Madoka did, it's kind of hard to avoid unfortunately) of how Kyuubey is basically Nyarlathotep and all the magical girls are destined to inevitably turn into witches, and Homura is stuck in a time loop constantly trying to find a way to save Madoka from that fate and constantly failing. The cycles only gets broken when Madoka apotheoses somehow, but Homura is still sad because she can't be with Madoka and turns into a devil or something. Is it just that, or is it a different spoiler?

Did they ever explain how they managed to tame the witch that killed Mami-chan and turn it into an ally?

>>2098486
Close enough. Madoka can't self actualize if Homura has and Homura can't self actualize if Madoka has. The balance theme for the franchise goes hand in hhin with their relationship.

>>2098496
Please just watch the show already.

>>2098500
That's not even from the show it happened in the third movie and was not explained at all just suddenly they have a pet witch that acts all cute. How? Why? Surely if they can turn witches into cute pets that would be better than fighting them.

>>2098666
>Show
>Implying this means just the series

Witches and magical girls are the same being. Nagisa used her witch form to hide, but she was always Nagisa the same way that Octavia is Sayaka.

>>2098666
>not explained at all
It's explained towards the end you mongoloid.

Are any of the spinoff manga (Oriko, Tart, etc good or worth reading?)

>>2098738
They're best if you really want some more of the same world but at the very least for Oriko and Kazumi they don't really hold up on their own.

Somehow, I enjoyed Kazumi, but that's probably it was because it was coming out in 2011-2012 when I really wanted more meguca.

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>>2098738
The Different Story is the best one and definitely worth reading.

All the other ones you could take or leave, but for the most part I've found them all worth it if you just want more from the Puella Magi universe.

>>2098738
TDS is probably the best. I personally enjoy Tart, but has a more shonen style to it. This is probably good as it doesn't try to recreate the main story.

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>Aniplex re-releasing Movie 1 and 2 BDs

Too bad it's the same fucking price for just Rebellion as it is for 2 movies.

I get that they're selling Rebellion with extras, but they should just have it standalone.

>>2098858
I just wish they'd make a version of the dual-audio Rebellion release with the same box as the import sub-only release.

>>2098879
Turns out I'm retarded and they do, in fact, sell Rebellion standalon

Do you think there were ever some timelines when she thought fuck it and just went around raping all the girls because no consequences?

>>2099104
>Homura
>giving that much of a fuck about the other girls
>able to lift a finger against Madoka

>>2099104
I don't know about rape, but I'm sure she must've murdered Mami and Sayaka a few times.

>>2099104
Homura's a good girl nee-san!

I doubt it though. She had to dedicate herself to her wish post timeline 3 to avoid despair. Saying fuck it may actually kill her.