Hibike! Euphonium

>>2039276
Go ask in >>2038163 and lurk more.

>>2039276
Welcome to /u/.

Hibike! Euphonium was controversial here since while it's based on a novel where the two characters are both paired with guys, the show itself seems to have taken steps to downplay the het and add in things specifically designed to attract yuri fans. This makes some people on /u/ think that the next season might actually have them get together, while others think that that was purely a marketing choice and the next season will be more faithful to the source material in that respect.

Since this thread is going to eventually devolve into an argument between the two camps, I figured I'd give you a heads-up from the start.

>>2039278
To go ask what ? if someone else enjoyed the anime ?

>>2039283
Thanks for you post my dear anon.

According to me, I just hope the two girls are going to get in relationship together in season 2, i don't want men to show themselves in the anime, there's enough men.

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>>2039276
>i'm new

Well that's the understatement of the day, isn't it

>expecting yuri from a het VN
>expecting yuri from KyoAni
lol

Has Hibike! some kind of official thread ?

>>2039291
>Het VN
It was an actual novel, anon. Not even a light novel, a novel

>>2039291
>expecting yuri from
you say the same thing to Ikuhara, and he make Yuri Kuma
you say the same thing to Murata, and she make Nadeshiko Hiyori, you are wrong

>>2039283
>the show itself seems to have taken steps to downplay the het

Can we stop repeating this when Reina loudly, explicitly, and emotionally declared her love for her very male teacher?

At least be honest and say only the scenes between Kumikek and Shoe were reduced.

>>2039283
>to attract yuri fans
to bait yuri fans

>>2039283
Could Hibikek be the most controversial anime to /u/? Kyoani has truly created a monster.

>>2039312
>novel is het
>kyoani knows this
>kyoani baits the Yuri base that doesn't
>s2 cover features male love interest
Y'all should know better then to trust kyoani especially after tamako

>>2039313
Not gonna lie but that teacher x student thing is creepy as fuck, dude has to be 7 years older than her

>>2039312
>add yuri end
>novel and het fans burn Kyoani offices the next day
They are not idiots anon

>>2039318
>tamako love story
You're right they aren't they're evil business men that will pull in Yuri fans and subsequently burn them when they reach their viewing quota

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Post best couple.

>>2039317
Actually, 7 years is not quite a gap when both of them already grown up.

i remember hibike thread on /u/ long long long time ago

it's full of polite and very nice people discussing this anime while drinking a couple a tea

>>2039313
Well, I didn't specify it did so for both couples. Just that there's less het in the anime adaptation, and that's a fact. If you're an optimist you could point out how they did so for the more plausible het couple (student x student) and didn't bother changing the less likely one (student with crush on a teacher).

>>2039314
Sure, that's a good possibility. But I didn't want to say anything that we don't know for sure when describing the situation.

Personally, I expect it'll end in het. But I'm not going to look down on those who want to hope it won't.

>>2039317
I think I read somewhere that the teacher is in his 30s. And Reina is 15-16 yr/old.

I saw the poster for 2nd season and shoe was the only boy there. So I expect them to explore their rs in 2nd season.

Thank Goodness, I am not interested in animes these past few months and I might forget that this will be shown in fall. Lol.

>>2039379
The "bait" thing is stupid anyway. Yuri is a niche inside a niche, and it never sells well. Why would any studio try to "lure" the Yuri fanbase in?

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>>2039323
>>2039316
>tamako
Kanna x Midori is better anyway.

>>2039591
>Why would any studio try to "lure" the Yuri fanbase in?

I dunno, I don't work at KyoAni

Chuunibyou had 2 canon lesbians (anime only), so there's hope?

>>2042344
I'm hoping for Natsuki x Ribbon to happen and kiss by accident, or Natsuki doing it just to bully Ribbon-chan

Best we can hope from KyoAni.

>>2039276
Is there any show you don't expect that?

>>2042397
OP said she's new, give her time.

So that's why Midori was acting weird? Maybe I need to continue watching...

>>2039591
You obviously have no idea about marketing.

First, that yuri is "a niche that never sells well" is simply false. It's only believed by a few retarded anons on /u/.

Second, the reason you want to attract subaudiences is that 10+1 is more than 10. If you can boost your reach by 5% by adding a few nods to a smaller audience, why wouldn't you? In the real world, people don't just pick one audience and ignore everyone else. In the contrary, the attempt is usually to attract as many other audiences as possible without alienating the main one.

>>2039349
Yeah, there's a 20 year gap between my parents. But I'll always be made uncomfortable by student/teacher relationships.

>>2042460
Almost 9 years between my fiancee and I. It's pretty normal to have an "age gap". Granted, I wasn't dating her when she was underage.

>>2039276
Dropped after watching ep1. No regrets.

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>>2039299
>Has Hibike! some kind of official thread?

Check the pic to take an idea of how were those threads.

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Hibike Euphonium summarized in one small pic.

>>2042471
Pls fuck off with your personal blog. unless this is a lesbian age gap

>>2048336
I just assume any blogposting on /u/ is unless explicitly indicated otherwise.

>>2039276
i'm enjoyed dropped this bait shit

The sad thing is that Euphonium has real yuri couples in Natsumi/Ribbons and Oboe/Faggot but they let the director shove them aside for the fake Reina/Kumiko drama.
We will have to see what season two brings since Oboe/Faggot is going to be one of the main storylines.

You people take shit too seriously. Hell, even being in japan, Bloom into you's author said that UFO was her favorite recent yuri thing.

>>2048252
>>2048254
even japan saw Hibike as yuri.

>>2048986
>Oboe/Faggot
Who and who?

>>2049907
They're getting confused it's oboe/flute.

>>2039313
It's not exactly uncommon for teenagers to say that they love their teachers. She's more or less just obsessed with him, it's not like they actually have a relationship.

>>2049500
Japan also see subtext as yuri. It's not a matter of perception, it's a matter of definition.

>>2053205
I wonder if Japanese yuri fans (in general, I'm sure there will be individual reactions that differ) also feel the same rage and despair most of us seem to feel when yuri subtext is shattered with one or both of the girls getting a boyfriend, or are they all so desensitized to it that it no longer even registers.

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lol

>>2049028
Is she retarded per chance?

>>2053233
Judging by that one amusing edited comic where two Japanese noblemen discuss Love Lab, I'd have to say yes.

>>2053973
I mean...basically all the non-subtextual yuri other than what nakatani herself is writing right now sucks

>>2053233
Hell yes they do. Sometimes more than /u/.

>>2053981
That wasn't an actual translation though. The edited text had nothing to do with the actual comic, and the images of Love Lab and Kinmoza were shopped in.

>>2054035
Any examples come to mind?

>>2054048
Shitsurakuen's negative reaction got the author to write an extra chapter with a yuri proposal

>>2054051
Why did the author make Sora look like a transman in that extra chapter?

>>2054048
Shitsurakuen, Amnesian

>>2054059
Because japan doesnt understand girly princes

>>2039316
Oh man, don't remind me of Tamako. It makes me so salted.

>>2042344
It did? I thought the Deko and the other girl thing was like, not a thing.

>>2054141
They were closer to a thing than anyone else in the show. They're definitely on the path to tribbing once Deko is a little less antagonistic towards Nibutani. It's a bit of a stretch to say they're canon 'lesbians' though or to think that Kyoani would ever actually portray them together.

>>2054071
Well this is incredibly cringeworthy.

>>2054141
It was the closest thing to canon lesbians we'd get from a KyoAni show.

Meaning it's implied that there's mutual attraction underneath all that tension but we never see where it goes (apart from an accidental kiss). Even their friends tease them about it but they deny it.

>>2039535
Shoe was barely in the second novel. Natsuki is gonna be more focused than him in season two. Her and Ribbon. Since they are getting more merchandise.

>>2039276
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2364725?tags=2girls
Yuuko x Natsuki original animation

>>2054071
What school project is this for?

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Does anyone have more pics of these two? My folder is pretty empty.

>>2054161
>Shoe was barely in the second novel.
And Hazuki was barely in the first, yet she got two whole episodes that focused on her.

I of course don't care much for the guy either, but I don't think it's right to use the "KyoAni doesn't care about the novels" argument only when it's convenient to our side.
>inb4 stones thrown my way

>>2054165
Dunno. Grabbed it off another site. Probably psychology.

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>>2054071
Thx!! Saved!!

>>2039276
Hey there anon, I enjoyed it too. I really liked the relationship between Kumiko and I thought the scenes between them and the love confessions were really nice. I was really disappointed when I found out the original novels pair them off with dudes though. Unfortunately, I don't think there's any chance of the second season not being headed in a het direction and that makes me sad since I really liked their relationship dynamic/chemistry and the characters themselves ;_;. Why can't we have nice things?

>>2061708

Because the yuri by kyoto animation was too perfect to be real.

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So, just new information
Mizure and Nozomi include in the cast as expected, they already appear in the S1 but as background

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>>2049500
Who didn't?
You gotta be too goddamn dense (like a harem MC) to not notice.

>>2053973
She later explained that she knows that the story isn't really yuri as a whole, but there were some parts that she perceived as yuri and she liked them.

>>2057576
I think it's obvious that Hazuki is a pet favorite for KyoAni.

>>2048986
Natsuki/Yuuko and Mizore/Nozomi were never prominent in the first novel. They weren't "shoved aside" in the anime.
They aren't even real yuri couples either. They may not have male love interests like Kumiko and Reina, but their relationships are still just teases that go nowhere.

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https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/745769887834996740

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>>2077475
Totally straight

/u/ guys must really like pain, the show is pretty faithful to the light novel so there won't be an alternative ending.

Am I fool to hope?

>>2081413
Yes, no matter how it turns out in the end. There's no scenario in which 'hope' leads to a better outcome than 'no expectations', and there's at least one scenario where 'hope' is worse.

>>2081413
Contrary to popular consensus, faith is not a virtue.

>>2081420
>>2081450
If someone ever tells me it's a mistake to have hope, well then, I'll just tell them they're wrong. And I'll keep telling them til they believe! No matter how many times it takes...

>>2081413
What are you hopping for?

Yuri end? You're a fool.
Het end? Most likely.
Not resolution with hints of het? Likely
Not resolution with hints that could be googled into yuri? Not very likely

>>2081511
I just want to hope

>>2081512
You can hope, anon.

>>2081513
Thanks

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>>2048254

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Yuri in the mind of the producers and editors

>>2061708
> the relationship between Kumiko

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>>2087918
Is it the "Let's at least include a lesbian side couple so the fans that we attracted won't be mad at us" card?

>>2087918
That's not Ribbon-chan!?

>>2087932
Is just a hug, but anon paused in the right moment.

Natsuki-senpai is best senpai

>>2087948
>>2081511
>>2061708

Just skimmed through it. (the het feelings made it hard to watch)
The animation is so good that watching it physically hurts me.
I wish there's a yuri anime with this quality.

>>2087955
Kyoani are slowly creeping closer to it.

>>2077510
The fact that you call it a "light novel" alone makes your knowledge of the source material highly suspect.

>>2039316
>s2 cover features male love interest

Seeing is believing, and I won't believe it until I see it.

>>2088084
Nobody cares about the difference between novel and LN, nee-san.

>>2088667
I'm slightly curious

>>2088680
Light novels are the equivalent of YA fiction in Japan with even less quality. Eupho is an actual novel that just happens to have manga-like cover art (like everything in Japan does.)

All of you are being played like damn fiddles!

>>2088709
I wouldn't mind some of the Euphos fiddling with me.

>>2088667
I do. LNs are literally waste paper. Novels I could at least practice reasonable doubt as to the quality.

Aren't anime generally worse than LNs, quality wise?

Good god, I know that this will all turn into a sunken yuri-ship, but I cant help but be obsessed with the potential outcome. If KyoAni do what everyone is expecting (rather than hoping), then this will go down as one of the all time greatest let-downs of ANY series; even more than Tamako.

I for one am looking forward to watching this whole thing collapse in the same way that the whole USA is heading towards. 2016 will forever be known as the year of the incredible implosions.

>>2092815
It already imploded with episodes 9-10 confirming that it would follow the LNs, and the various interviews confirming that the directors and writers had no interest in yuri. Best accept it now so it won't be a letdown

>>2092815
>then this will go down as one of the all time greatest let-downs of ANY series

Don't get melodramatic. It's still just a generic show, nothing absurdly special.

I'm pretty much over the butthurt now. Natsuki and Ribbon girl are pretty hard gay for each other anyway.
The author also said that she wanted to show a relationship greater than love with Kumiko and Reina. Whether or not this was executed well, I don't really care. The point, is that if it really come to it, Reina would choose Kumiko over Taki and Kumiko would do the same for Reina. and that's good enough for me. This is pretty much a reverse Maria from Shinsekai Yori situation, which is great. Yeah, yeah, I'm delusional, I let yuribait creators fuck me in the ass, whatever. At least I can still find enjoyment in this. Enjoying things is nice.

>>2092918
Maybe they'll even share dicks, just to show how close they are.

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>>2092914
>generic

>>2092988
Good visual quality doesn't make it any less generic.

>>2093002
And genericness doesn't make it bad, just in case you misunderstand. Just nothing outstanding.

>>2092900
So how are you preparing for the implotion?

IDK how to take it when finally happen.

>>2092918
Well, Maria choose the guy because she wanted to have kids and she believed that it was impossible with Saki. Which was bullshit because they can manipulate everything, even fucking genetic code, with their Canti. It was just the author's "culture" showing up

I still like the show, and didn't watch it for the "yuri" it could have, but man they really went a bit overboard.

>>2093039
Yeah, I always wondered why such an advanced society couldn't have science babies.

>>2093134
For the same reason their society encourages same-sex relationships as a form of birth control rather than using regular birth control for everyone. It doesn't make any sense and it says more about the author than about their fictional society.

>>2093208
although the "no Yuri" route served to justify everything that happened in the end ... it really made me laugh

>>2093208
It does have a in-universe believable reason, but Maria's excuse just reeks to "women grow up their yuri ways" mentality the Japanese seem to have.

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Im actually really exited to see the fucking meltdown. It's going to be worse then that rising hope thing.

>>2094119
I've been on /u/ since 2008 and I've never seen anything about Rising Angels: The Red Rose. What even happened?

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>>2092900
>It already imploded with episodes 9-10 confirming that it would follow the LNs
Not sure how you can say this when the immediately following episodes of 11 and 12 were almost entirely original. Never mind the content of the rest of the show as a whole.
>and the various interviews confirming that the directors and writers had no interest in yuri.
Whether it be Ishihara's propensity of not going all the way, or Yamada's calling arose by some other name, these things don't change the fact that the both of them put what viewers often interpret as yuri in their shows, Hibike included. Anyone who watched the first season, without knowing anything about those interviews, would almost certainly think they watched something pretty damn gay.
>Best accept it now so it won't be a letdown
I'm going in cautious sure, but your yelling that the sky is falling is still kind of groundless.

>>2094482

I hate to sound like a broken record, but I really hope Yamada chooses to take the Eupho story into her own hands with this one.

It seems like in most of her previous shows, esp Tamako and K-On, she shows the yuri-ship as something less than ideal. But I dont think she generally wants that to be the case every time. In her interviews, she constantly feels the need to defend her usage of yuri plot-lines by assigning them as 'adolescent' and 'immature' as a result of confusing and misguided feelings and emotions. Every time she does this, it feels like a pressured sort of statement, like why even include the yuri elements (outside of baiting) in shows which have no need for them to exist?

For example, in Tamako, Midori doesnt have to be in love with Tama to move the plot along in either the show or the movie. Being an original anime, they couldve made the plot move along without the yuri feelings Midori had, and yet Yamada continues to add it in. In fact, the cruelty that they displayed toward Midori by not letting her get closure and her continual suffering are one of the reasons why I HATE to love that whole series

Yamada continues to try to add yuri into her plotlines, and I feel like she is pressured into defending it by stating that its a portrayal of adolescence and confusion. What she really wants to do, imo, is break new territory with a legitimate yuri-ship and this is her chance to finally do it!

I might be being melodramatic, but GOD, these stories have so much potential and they just keep pissing it away due to societal pressures to keep things kosher. CMON YAMADA, STAND UP FOR YOUR REAL FEELINGS WITH HIBIKE.... pls ;_;

I feel like Eupho is her first chance to

>>2094597
>why even include the yuri elements (outside of baiting) in shows which have no need for them to exist?
Easy, because she's a fan of that sort of close friendship female relationship, without it actually becoming yuri.

In our minds that final step is obvious, but she never intends it to happen.

The male equivalent would be writing buddy-cop-style bromance stories which end with the guys both ending up with girlfriends. Doesn't mean the author secretly wants to write gay stories but is forced to tone it down because of pressure.

>>2094597
>in most of her previous shows, esp Tamako and K-On, she shows the yuri-ship as something less than ideal
>In her interviews, she constantly feels the need to defend her usage of yuri plot-lines by assigning them as 'adolescent' and 'immature' as a result of confusing and misguided feelings and emotions
The correct explanation is usually the simplest one.

>Tamako spoiler
You're absolutely correct, she didn't need to introduce Yuri here. But she did anyway, for the only purpose of crushing it.

Though I'll grant you that, anon: you displayed some incredible mental gymnastics to manage to reach a conclusion that flies in the face of all available evidence.

>>2094597
>she constantly feels the need to defend her usage of yuri plot-lines by assigning them as 'adolescent' and 'immature'
>constantly
Has she ever done this outside of that one Hibike interview?

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I declare my love to all my female friends. All of them. Not just to my girlfriend.

I get not wanting yuri and just bff whatever, but that shit was weird if that's what they're going for.

>>2094597

If she really cared about yuri (or lesbian relationship in general), she would include a lesbian sidecouple as Psycho pass did. She would make implied relationship like Madoka did. She would give a side character to love Midori so she doesn't end up miserable.

There's nothing stopping her of doing that when other mainstream shows did with no negative reactions. I'm sorry anon, but the ways things happened, it makes more sense that they forced her to put these relationships and she sees the need to destroy it.

>>2094482
>Neither of them has ever put explicit yuri in any of their shows, but they're totes going to do it this time guys, in a show based on a novel that ends with the mc in a het relationship. You just have to ~have hope~
Alright.

I'd be more inclined to believe the author is a pressed lemon who doesn't realise how fucking gay her characters are. Sort of like the person who wrote Marimite.

>>2094720
Who are you quoting?
That's not what I was implying at all.

>>2094640
>>2094717
From what I've seen, most people (yurifans and nonyurifans alike) rather liked Midori's story in Tamako Market. It was tragic, but it was also beautiful and well handled. And she ultimately become something of the hero of the story. I'm glad she and her love story were put in. Which, might I add, was probably not Yamada doing so just to crush it. She wasn't the only character in the show whose love story was tragic/unrequited, after all.

But Tamako Market aside, Yamada was also the one who gave so much attention to Yui and Azusa's relationship in K-ON, as well as included that pretty yuri-rific (but also kind of shitty) MioxRitsu episode in the first season. And arguably also throwing in a few background pairs in the show as well.

If I were to give my personal analysis of her, I'd say it's closer to what >>2094632 said. She likes to play in the realm, and even push the boundaries of "female friendship", but I don't think she's willing to go as far as make it romantic, or at least consummate the romance.

>>2094724
Then what the fuck were you trying to say?

>>2094730
>Then what the fuck were you trying to say?
I'm having trouble trying to figure out where to start explaining since I don't know how you could be so confused. Did you even read my post at all, or am I dealing with someone who has trouble with simple comprehension?

Where did I imply that I expected explicit yuri? I even said I was going in cautious.

>>2094728
>From what I've seen, most people (yurifans and nonyurifans alike) rather liked Midori's story in Tamako Market. It was tragic, but it was also beautiful and well handled. And she ultimately become something of the hero of the story. I'm glad she and her love story were put in.

To be fair, I just watched the series and I remember everyone that wasn't a yuri fan hating her there.
Didn't watch the movie focused on the boring het couple. But I don't see yuri fans talking about it, so I guess I wasn't the only one.

Anyway, people liking her because she helped the het couple being together isn't a good thing. It's more like "hey, you hated her being a lesbian for the Mc, so we will make her help the main guy now and end up miserable. Have some sympathy".

Also, Yui and Azusa wasn't a good example when there's a scene in the movie that has no reason to exist other than show how Azusa is grossed out by the thought of a lesbian relationship. They also cut out some yuri-shi scenes from the manga.

Thinking now.. I think KyoAni is one of the worst studios for yuri content right now.

>>2094731
Mere caution implies you're still expecting to get yuri out of it.

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>>2094773
I know we'll get yuri out of it, from merely the existence of Mizore and Nozomi alone.

However, I'm cautious about how far it will go, and hardly think the show will cast off restraint and go all the way. And that of course goes for not only the new couple, but the other two we've gotten so far as well.
And by the way, when I say yuri, I mean things similar to what we got in the first season. I still honestly don't know how you got to your weird conclusion that >>2094720 was anything close to what I said, unless you're someone who thinks that all yuri has to be Sakura Trick-level explicit to be considered yuri at all, which in that case I'd imagine you'd have a problem with most of the threads on this board.

>>2094784
Its kyoani yuri. At most it will be DekoShinka kissing but it was just an accident.

>>2094769
>To be fair, I just watched the series and I remember everyone that wasn't a yuri fan hating her there.
So basically you're saying some people liked her and some people didn't.
Well. That certainly makes her unique for an anime character.
>Didn't watch the movie focused on the boring het couple.
You should. It's good.
>But I don't see yuri fans talking about it, so I guess I wasn't the only one.
Plenty of people had a lot to say about it, and a number of them were indeed yurifans. Hopefully you're not expecting these conversations about a het love story movie to be had on a yuri board.
>Anyway, people liking her because she helped the het couple being together isn't a good thing.
Like I said, it would really help if you watched the movie. No point making judgements about it based on almost nothing.

>when there's a scene in the movie that has no reason to exist other than show how Azusa is grossed out by the thought of a lesbian relationship.
That's true. Doesn't stop them from being a popular couple, though.
>They also cut out some yuri-shi scenes from the manga.
Maybe there were a few chapters they didn't fit in, but a lot of original content took its place. Mostly between Yui and Azusa, of course.

>Thinking now.. I think KyoAni is one of the worst studios for yuri content right now.
Okay.

>>2094804
>So basically you're saying some people liked her and some people didn't.
I thought anon was saying that only yuri fans like her?

>>2094819
That's like saying only het fans liked Mochizou.

Azusa being grossed out was retconned by k-on's creator, he even apologized for that scene saying it was all kyoanis idea. Also don't forget that the sempai went to an all girl college and reconnecting kyoani again. Anyway my point being that kyoani is terrible for Yuri, just imagine what they do with sakura trick

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I want to believe /u/

I want to believe so much, it hurts.
Never before have I wanted yuri bait to evolve into a relationship.
Its just some crappy high school anime, but I can't help but pray to the yuri gods for this one.

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>>2097529
I want to believe too, what's the point to create a so awesome relationship just for the baiting sake?

Specially after how gruesome was Myriad Colors

>>2097691
On that one it was obvious that Mai, and later Reina, liked Haruhiko, believing otherwise was pretty silly.

>>2094769
>Azusa is grossed out by the thought of a lesbian relationship.

You are reading too much into it.

>>2094855
>kyoani is terrible for Yuri,

They did quite well in Chu2.

>>2097711
They needed the fans

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>>2097529
>>2097691
Love will find a way.

>>2097711
This and Lucky Star were like...the only ones, now that I think about it.
I had hopes that KyoAni could do some real yuri sometime. But now that I think about it again, they just make bad baiting. There's a lot of studio doing better than they.

>>2094825
There was even a reaction on /u/ about how everyone outside yuri fans hated her because she was in the way of Mochizou and Tamako.

Actually, only het fans liked Mochizou. I don't get your point. He was so boring that if you didn't care about his romance with Tamako, there was no reason to like him.

>>2097739
Same with Shucihi.

In fact, you could swap the guy from Tamako with Shuichi and nobody would notice the difference.

>>2097741
I dunno about that. I thought both were milquetoast myself, but general anime watches seem to fucking love Mochizou and shipping him with Tamako, which is not the case with Shuichi at all. Obviously there's a few dedicated hetfags that will take anything just like many /u/sers are fans of the trashiest of romance as long as it's /u/. But the prevailing opinion on him seems pretty damn meh. Clearly weaboos in general see some sort of difference.

>>2097744
Could be because the female cast in Tamako wasn't really any better. Kumiko and Reina are both more interesting character and are better written, while the male characters in both shows have the same level of bland.

>>2097744
As far as I have seen, the prevalent "ship" for Kumiko almost everywhere is with Reina, and people don't really seem to give a fuck about "original" at all. It's only some very vocal minority here on 4chan and other places that defends Shuiichi, and their argument can be summed as "he won on the original novel!"

>>2097700
Also, how KyoAni dare to make a canonical harem shit show after Trigger made Inou-Battle?! KyoAni decisions are hoghtly questionable.

>>2097749
KyoAni finds a way and all that shit.

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>>2097748
Shoe1 is almost untenable.

>>2097753
He's so bland, I mean even the background girls of the band have more characterization than him, and theirs was almost zero. It's kind of amusing how little they cared about Shuiichi.

>>2097529
In order to strengthen the force of your prayers, you need to wear a hair shirt under your clothing everyday, fast twice a week, and self-flagellate (also be sure to implore Mary's aid in your prayers every day). If you do so God may deign to grant your request.

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>>2097815
That was a year ago? Just fucking kill me.

>>2097819
The more years you live, the more yuri couples bloom like lilies in the garden of the world.

>>2097815
Holly shit, time really flies.

>>2097820
I want to make this into a motivational poster.

>>2097744
Mochizou has characterization though and even has an episode dedicated to him and his thoughts and motivations. Personally, I thought his development just made him blander but I can see why others would root for his ship.

Shu on the other hand, the anime clearly didn't give a rats ass about and him and excised most of his scenes with Kumiko in favor of Reina. And if the writers don't care about him, neither would I. He's so uninteresting that I couldn't tell you anything about him other that he plays trombone and keeps eating corndogs. Why anyone would ship him with Kumiko just baffles me.

>>2097759
Not just the background girls, even the male side characters are more interesting than Shu. Goto the tuba player had a few lines to develop his character and why he loves playing tuba and I really found his few scenes with his girlfriend adorable. When Shu is onscreen, I have the exact same reaction us Kumiko: sarcastic and condescending and wishing he would just go away.

>>2097834
>Kumiko: sarcastic and condescending and wishing he would just go away.

I loved every single one of her "Guh, Shuiichi."

>>2097834
>keeps eating corndogs
yaoi

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>>2097853
It was satisfying as fuck. Especially the scene where he tried to ask her out.

Unfortunately, regardless of how clearly not interested in Shuichi Kumiko is, Reina just as clearly stated that she is in love with her male professor, so I have no hope for this series.

>>2039276
Isn't this show based on a complete novel?
Couldn't we just, like… read the novel, and find out whether it ends with yuri or not?

>>2097869
The last page of the series is Kumiko telling Shu that she's in love with him.

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>>2097869
We all know how the novel ends.

>>2097873
>>2097876
Well then why would anybody watch season 2?

>>2097883
Because some anons have convinced themselves that because of some differences from the novel in the first anime, KyoAni might give it a completely different ending.

>>2097860
I never put my hopes up especially after ep11. But that was intentional as fuck.

Truthfully, I'm dreading season 2.

>>2097890
And I'm kind of hyped... eventhought I know this will be painful to watch

>>2097984
Cuck or masochist?

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>>2097994

>>2098015
Couldn't even do one thing like an onee-san, could you anon?

>>2097994
>cuck

But anon, everyone here is a girl. Girls can't be cuckolds.

>>2097723
I highly doubt that. If yuri fans were that important studios would make proper yuri anime more often.
KyoAni simply had fun with the pairing. Because that is what the studio does, animate whatever they want.

>>2098222
My NTR fetish would disagree.

>>2098374
Well, by definition, a girl can't be cuckolded... Of course girls can be NTRed.

Is the OVA and/or Blu ray special worth watching?

>>2098354
This is a retarded argument. Let me explain this in a way that even you can understand.

There's 10 people that buy hetshit. There's 1 retard that buys shit due to being yuribaited.

A show that just has hetshit sells to ten people. If they yuribait, they sell to 11 people.

This is 10% more sales. More sales for free without any actual effort is good.

Companys love cash. This is free cash.

Do you understand? This is business 101 and literally how publishing anything in the world works and has always worked since we invented the printing press. If you can appeal to additional audiences without cost, you will, because it's more cash.

>>2099161
w-what is this?

>>2099166
A novel that'll centre around Kitauji's rival school.

Release date: 8/4/2016

>>2099161
>this one will have real yuri
>it won't get an anime adaptation
Just wait and see

>>2099097
But what if it is only 5%? What if 10% less people buy it because they hate yuri? You are basing your hypothesis on pure speculation.

>>2099190
Not them, but that's when market research comes in. They wouldn't do something if they know that it would hurt sales. Remember, anime is a business first and foremost not art, so making money is their priority.

>>2099190
That's why yuri pandering as opposed to canon yuri is added - people that hate yuri don't even see it.

Are you always this naive and clueless?

>>2099097
> literally how publishing anything in the world works and has always worked since we invented the printing press.

It's only how things have worked since the development of "the publishing industry" and "the media industry." Art used to be paid for by the rich, the aristocracy, and the Church with no expectation of monetary profit. They just funded people they thought were good.

>>2099161
>twincest
>adaptation
>never ever

>>2099190
105% expected revenue is better than 100% expected revenue if the cost is the same.

Welcome to capitalism. Didn't know they had internet in North Korea or whatever commie hellhole you're from.

>>2099097
Can some girl in the audience shows the sales chart of Hibike? I remember Hibike's sale were barely OK until the ep. 8 when the yuri hit the fan.

And also.

>>2099365
...
>free cash

KyoAni put too much effort in KumiRei (check >>2054071), basically KumiRei is the main asset of Hibike in money terms. :v

>>2099365
>Vol 1/7 10,307 Hibike! Euphonium
>Vol 2/7 8,878 Hibike! Euphonium
>Vol 3/7 8,217 Hibike! Euphonium
>Vol 4/7 7,870 Hibike! Euphonium
>Vol 5/7 7,529 Hibike! Euphonium
>Vol 6/7 7,450 Hibike! Euphonium
>Vol 7/7 8,053 Hibike! Euphonium

Not really great, but not bad either. I would say "average." Also, when episode 8 aired there were only preorder numbers, not sales ones.

>>2099161
I'm sure this will work just as well as when Kakifly did it.

>>2097865

See, this is why (against my better judgement) I have hope for this series.

As I stated earlier, a common theme of overcoming adolescence and immaturity is a staple for Yamada Naoko. In my wildest dreams, she again accomplishes this without sacrificing the yuri-ship by showing how Reina will get over her crush on the teacher because really what she is attracted to is Taki's dedication to being 'special' or exceptional. Reina certainly seems to be obsessed about this trait, and until the end of season 1, it wasnt something Kumiko really wanted anything to do with. Until she saw the power of the obsession demonstrated in ep 8, then 9 and of course 11.

If I were Yamada (and goddamn it that Im not), I would continue to queue the messages of overcoming adolescence by letting Reina drop her crush for Sensei in favor of Kumiko.

Of course, since it is KyoAni, they'll prolly do all that and STILL have Kumi x Shoo-dummy ;_;

>>2099288
Face it, capitalism is just as shitty as communism. It's also no coincidence that Jews are behind both of them. Mercantilism and in general the control of most wealth by landed aristocracy is the ideal economic system.

>>2099950
Back to 1862 with you, Bismarck.

>>2099951
If you have a time machine I'd prefer to visit 1095.

>tfw no Saracen warrior gf

>>2099418
8k average is pretty good.

>>2101701
It should be noted that these numbers are meaningless anyways because KyoAni has its own store and they don't release the numbers from it.

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>>2099097
What yurifan likes "yuribait"?
How is this show "hetshit"?
What?

>>2101714
And KyoAni keeps a lot of the merch money.

>>2101733
Really? Your really asking why this show is hetshit/yuribait? Read the above comments about it

>>2101740
>Your really asking why this show is yuribait?
No, I didn't ask that, actually.
>Your really asking why this show is hetshit?
Just to be clear, I was more referring about the first season, since we're talking about the sales. But regardless of what will or may happen from here on, the first season would be something I'd think that would more likely make "hetshit" fans angry with it, rather than more willing to buy. When I think of a hetshit show, I think of one with an actual progression of romance between a male and female character. Not one where the male character gets supplanted by another female character. And since we're talking about the people who would buy the show -- Japanese consumers -- there's a good chance they've read the source as well. Do you think KyoAni made the anime more appealing to them by erasing a large amount of the hetshit in the novel?

So I'll repeat, how is the show hetshit?

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>>2101754

…but also refusing to turn down her offer of kindness, Shuuichi reluctantly wrapped it around his neck. Whether or not it was from Kumiko’s own body heat, its fabric had roughly felt warm to the touch.

“It suits you.”

She laughed in a somewhat curious way, and then suddenly placed her hand on his shoulder. Pressed against such force, Shuuichi spontaneously tilted his body towards Kumiko. The lifting of her heels had playfully come into sight. Kumiko stood tip-toed and she held her hand close to his ear, with her lips following suit. This froze Shuuich’s body in place, even while his heart was bouncing — with Kumiko ever so close to him, Shuuichi found her presence difficult to ignore.

Kumiko’s voice had flowed, with the sigh of her breath tickling his ears, and the sweet fragrance of her shampoo striking his nose. Shuuchi did not move, but he was absolutely certain of the words she had just imparted to him.

“I love you too, Shuuichi.”

>>2101763
Did you not read my post at all?
As I said, hetfags shouldn't and probably don't have a problem with the source (except for maybe the 2nd volume). We're talking about the anime. Why are you assuming this is a hetshit show purchased primarily by hetshit fans?

>>2101765
you look like you dont know anything about kyoani neesan

>>2101763
Wow this author is such a fucking lesbian writing this scene from Shuuichi's perspective just to write about how sensual Kumiko is

>>2101767
I've watched most of their shows, but yeah, I guess what do I know.

But still, I don't think you're following. Think of it this way: imagine if Girlfriends somehow got an anime adaptation. However the studio decided to give a much bigger role to that one guy Mari dated for a while but whose name escapes me. Mari/Akko scenes were replaced and instead scenes with the dude were added. Maybe even Mari seems more attracted to him than she does Akko and goes all the way with the guy, instead of just lying about it.
But since the original manga's yuri then OF COURSE it's a yurifag show, and yurifags will still buy the shit out of it.

...Right?

>>2101793
>...Right?

Right. Because yuri fans are like battered husbands.

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>>2103515
>Husbands

>>2103519
battered WIFE

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>>2103524
Much better.

>>2103519
I'm sorry, for a second I forget that everyone here is a girl like me.

>>2101775
damn.

>>2103545
/u/ IS 50% MALE AND 50% WOMAN

>>2101775
Maybe she's a lesbian or something

>>2103649
Well, back when the sow was airing some people here (me included) joked about her being a closeted lesbian.

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>>2103715

Very deep into the closet.

And lasting only 8 weeks for the S2, I'm not prepared yet for all this sh0t again.

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>>2103572
/u/ IS 100% CUTE GIRLS!
CUTE!
GIRLS!

>>2103715
Apparently the story is based on her high-school diaries or something like that. It's difficult to say whether she had closeted lesbian feelings or was just involved in a really intense friendship with another girl.

I think I read somewhere that she's married now but I like to imagine she gets no sexual satisfaction from her husband and still touches herself while thinking of her friend after he falls asleep.

>>2104555
I don't know anything about her private life. That's why I said that we joked about it. At least, I was only joking. Her writing seems a bit too sexual for just a relationship between friends, though.

>>2104555
It still takes some people in much more accepting countries significant parts of their lives to realise/accept their sexuality, I wouldn't be surprised if she's closeted/doesn't even realise what a big 'mo she is.

>>2082333
Oops that was stupid of me, I meant Kumiko and Reina.

>>2104436
Or adorable ladies!