Persona thread

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>>2038838
I like it. Maybe not the closeup so much though.

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>>2039098

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Found two bizarrely censored versions of this saved before I found this one.

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That's gotta be femyu, I refuse to believe regular Yu could do that with his hair.

>>2039134
>still no femyu or fem5

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>>2039192
I will never not be disappointed about that. At the very least I will continue to pray for a p3 with everything from fes and p3p slapped together and full cutscenes and models for both protags.

And I will pray for it until the day I die.

>>2039221
Japan underestimates the power of femcs. Lesbian femyu would have sold enough copies of p4g to make your head spin.

Keep praying. In turn, I will hold out hope for a fem5 revealed in the last 5 seconds of the release day trailer. Or a sneak peek at femyu in Persona 4 Super Golden Mode rehash for PS3 using Catherine and P5's graphics and game engine.

>>2039406
I like to belive the reason they are delaying P5 is because they are creating a Femc rute.

>>2039406
while we are thinking wishfully about superior versions of persona games, maybe they will someday release a version of persona q with persona 3's female protagonist actually in it. i have not played persona q myself, but i have heard it was such a disappointment regarding /u/ content which is a shame because it conceptually was supposed to be catering to the persona shipping fans. adding in persona 3's female protagonist would have most likely helped fix that.

>>2039448
They should. Intelligent Systems showed them they had the macaroons to be "explicitly progressive" and I'll laugh and sigh if Atlus chickens out again.

>>2039584
>4 spinoffs and an implied fifth one that panders
If they need the money that badly they should have went for the femc and that otome fanbase. Thus, if persona has a femc, then by default, she will have yuri routes because yuri is a mandatory ever-present force in the persona universe.

>>2039596
>yuri is a mandatory ever-present force in the persona universe
I don't remember the Persona series, or the larger SMT franchise, ever having a reputation for being o/u/r friend. Just look at this thread, with 80% of the images posted cointaining Hamuko. P3P was the exception, not the norm.

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>>2039621
There's always at least subtext. The thread could just as well be full of Chie/Yukiko and Mitsuru/Yukari.

>>2039621
I was just referencing how the close female friendships of p3 and p4 end up being very subtexty.
>80% Hamuko
Just this thread. Anywhere else it's Yukari and Mitsuru or Chie and Yukiko.

The lack of women is why Persona 5 is going to suck.

>>2039715
I think it's the reason it will be good, I don't really like the harem feel of 3 and 4

>>2039192
>>2039221
>>2039406
>>2039715
Yes. Lets face it, Fujoshis have taken over Persona, Tales of and probably Final Fantasy. By the coming trend, there are exclusively M leads and noticeably less female characters.

I say we punish these series by hurting their sales.

>>2039715
>The lack of women is why Persona 5 is going to suck.

The cast is not finalized yet; just wait and see

>>2039823
>Tales of

Then support the shit out of Tales of Bersaria when it comes out

>>2039823
>Final Fantasy
Can't speak for the other franchises, but the yaoi fanbase always got more out of this one than we ever did. There's no new trend here, just a return to the status quo after the surprisingly yuri-friendly FF13.

>>2039721
They'll likely cut back on the harem thing. Catherine was about how cheating is bad and P4Golden included Valentine rejection responses. If anything, Persona 5 will be monogamous.

>>2039823
>imagining evil women must be behind everything

Sure, it's Fujoshi at fault, and sure, this is totally happening. Sure.

Have you even played a Tales of Persona game in your life before?

Tales of series is fulk if really good female characters. Sure, they're not yuri, but recently the series focus on friendship instead of romance anyway. And that's how I like JRPGs anyway, since they're almost never yurish.
Persona 3 had actual good female characters. In 4 they're all useless waifushit, though. I have no hope for P5.
I don't even want to talk about FFXV. I think it's sad that it exists...in every way.

>>2039916
>They'll likely cut back on the harem thing. Catherine was about how cheating is bad and P4Golden included Valentine rejection responses. If anything, Persona 5 will be monogamous.

So lack of females = less chance of harem? The fuck?

Is this how female characters have been boiled down to in JRPGs?

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>>2039916
Persona 4 already had friends only social links for all the girls.

>>2039956
Pretty much this. Persona 4 was a letdown.

>>2039916
And yet Persona 4 feels more like a harem than Persona 3. At least in P3 the girls only showed interest in the mc on cutscenes (Aegis being an exception, but could be seen as no romantic). P4 they need all the girls saying how cool and awesome the MC was...even NPCs.

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>>2039969
I think the most important anti-harem feature was how Persona 3 gave its characters personal lives and important relationships that didn't involve the MC. Aigis was the only one whose life revolved around him/her.

>>2039969
Chronologically, it was p4, catherine and p4g. The latter two have the girls reacting negatively to the two timing mc, perhaps to discourage this.

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>>2039959
One word: vicarious. If anything, the cat's true form will be some hot girl the mc can date.

What I don't understand is how /u/ isn't furious at P3P for allowing a pedo relationship with Ken but not allowing a yuri relationship with Yukari. When a lot of the lines between her and male MC are left in especially her getting jealous over Aegis is very yuri worthy. It drove me nuts, typical Japan to give the thumbs up to shota fucking but say eww to two consenting females having sex. Such a huge waste of potential imo. Otherwise hyped for P5 yuri or no yuri.

>>2040281
I'm only passing by, but being part of a community for a niche genre, it's just par for the course. There's no sense in getting upset over it when we're not the ones being catered to in the first place. We're fortunate enough to be thrown a bone here and there. In any case, I can understand your ire, but I guess I'm personally too jaded with the reality of our situation to have any response to this sort of thing other than "If you want something done right..." etc etc

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>>2040281
Hamuko still gets Aigis and Elizabeth, so I don't see what's so awful there. Besides, Yukari belongs with Mitsuru.

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>>2040334
>Yukari belongs with Mitsuru
The combination of this and Yukari being seemingly less popular than Aigis or Mitsuru probably goes a long way in explaining why /u/ doesn't care that much. And the worst part for Yukari is that not being an option actually reinforces the other options, because it means they're entirely deliberate and it's not just a case of "changes the pronouns and calls it a day."

>>2040281
Well, you know what japanese think of same-sex relationships, it's unreasonable to expect anything more than heavy subtext from them... and they are way more lenient with pedo stuff in their media

Aigis and maybe Elizabeth were definetly exceptions, i do love how the extra dialogue in the Aeon Social Link for the FeMC implies romance more than in the Male MC, pic related, it's followed by

>But for some reason... all i can see or think about is you, Minako-san

But yeah, that's not something you can find in most JRPGs, so there is no reason to get angry about it

But hey, i think we can be optimistic, some of the unused dialogue found in P4 suggests that Yosuke was originally a romance option, whch means Atlus didn't only consider it, but they were actually going to put a same-sex option in the game at some point

And now we have Fire Emblem: Fates with explicit F/F romance and Nights of Azure, which i haven't played but from what i've seem it's on the same level or maybe even higher than Aigis' S.Link in P3P and also has the relationship as a central element in the game's plot

Both of these were pretty successful, maybe if we ever get a FeMC again we will be able to have explicit yuri romance

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>>2040391
Shit, i forgot the pic

>>2040391
>if we ever get a FeMC again
Well, that's kind of the problem right here.

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Well this all got depressingly realistic. Time for more of whatever I can scrounge.

>>2039632
The thread being slanted towards femc is my doing I'm afraid, don't have much of the other 2 big pairings saved.

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>>2040692
Aaand we'll just pretend that's definitely chick Aigis.

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>>2040703
Not a huge fan of that one seeing it in non-thumbnail form. Oh well

>>2040281
>Ken
Terrible idea but that was the best idea they could come up with. In fact Junpei only turned you down because he was already committed, which shows they meant to make the guys dateable.

>Yukari and the femc
>can't be maiden and prince
>can't be shy girl and energetic girl
Aigis had the plot drive their relationship, Mitsuru had the onee-sama thing going on, Hermit had the no self-esteem attachment thing, but they just couldn't figure out how to make yuri between 2 girly, normal girls happen.

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>>2040726
I don't think the problem was necessary both of them being normal as such, but Atlus being unwilling to do a lesbian route with a normal girl at all. If you think about, the only girls Hamuko can have sex with are Aigis and Elizabeth, neither of whom is human. The next most obvious romance is with the upper-class Mitsuru, who stops short of sex. Saori, who's yet more normal, has much less subtext. Then finally, thoroughly middle-class Yukari's social link is completely platonic.

with the amount of art there is of yuri why is there such a lack of fics?

>>2039823
>Fujoshis have taken over Persona, Tales of and probably Final Fantasy.
The director of Tales of just said Velvet is the protagonist because they heard fans asking for more FemMCs and also because the positive reception of Milla..
Final Fantasy is the odd one in the series, if it was conceptualized as a mainline FF from the beginning it would have probably an even split of characters like all the others
Persona..the 5 characters we know of are probably not the entire cast. The lack of a female protag and Atlus' insistence that P3P fem route never happened kinda sucks though.

>>2040281
Yukari was the one with the least amount of subtext you know.
You could still have implied sex with Elizabeth and Aegis still loved you and even was going through route exclusive angst because they were both girls.
And the Mitsuru link while not officially gay could very much as well be.

>>2043110
>Atlus' insistence that P3P fem route never happened kinda sucks though.

Obviously, a campaign needs to be formed and have tons of femMC P3P cosplayers march towards Atlus and show off that they exist and they better not forget them in future crossover works

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>>2043925
source/artist?

>>2043987
http://nyamcattt.tumblr.com

>>2043961
People already do that and it doesn't work.
She is popular enough, yet not even a skin unlock of her in PQ or a mention in Persona Arena.
Obviously no official manga or anime ever features her either.
Atlus a shit.

Hey, new trailer for P5 is out, looks like we won't have to worry about lack of female characters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKZtJmt85ns

There has to be a yuri ship in here, somewhere...

>>2045587
If Valkyrie Drive taught me something is that girl bikers are lesbians so I expect art of Biker-chan ravishing Ann, hikki hacker or French girl

>>2045607
Her bike Persona even looks freakin' feminine

>>2044077
At least she's in the stage play.

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>>2044077
It is pretty weird how they ignore her, i know she is definetly more popular than ManC around here, but i guess Japan is what counts, dunno about them

Closest we have was this color palette for Labrys that references her

>>2045587
/u/ is being uncharacteristically optimistic. If anything all the new female characters mean it's going to be another harem like P4

>>2045633
Judging things based entirely on trailers alone, i don't think so

If we look at the P4 trailers it gives you a pretty good idea of what the game is, a lot of focus on the S. Links and SoL stuff and the fighting monster parts almost seems out of place or an afterthought

P5 trailers are a lot more "intense", it doesn't seem to have the same relaxed, SoL feeling of P4, so i don't think there will be much room for harem antics, the closest thing we got so far was the swimsuit scene in the new trailer

Of course, it's a japanese JRPG, so it's fair to expect that every girl will gush over the MC at least once. But right now, it doesn't look like it will be on the same level as P4

I don't know why you guys would expect any yuri in P5. They probably would've revealed a FeMC by now if they were planning to. Does the MC have a voice this time around or is he still silent as usual?

>>2045712
Every Persona game (with the possible exception of P1, cuz i never played it) had at least one goggleable yuri ship

Persona 2 - Yukino x Anna, Noriko x Anna
Persona 3 - Yukari x Mitsuru, Aigis x Minako, Elizabeth x Minako
Persona 4 - Yukiko x Chie

I think it's reasonable to expect at least a pair of good friends that's shippable

>>2045712
Biker chick could be a lesbian

>>2045712
Not expecting any lesbians but cute and flirty interaction between some girls would be nice and doable.

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>>2045750
Fuck that attitude, I'm expecting on-screen cunnilingus.

>>2045756
Welp, apparently the game will be about people who are "restrained by rules set by society in Japan"

With a theme like this, there is a significant chance we may get a lesbian or gay character

Not exactly that, but it's close enough

If it happens, i hope it's biker-chan

>>2045730
I've only played 3 and 4 but the MC can also romance those girls. It's just not a great series for yuri. Sure it would be nice if P5 had some but it's not something to get your hopes up for.

>>2045765
>or gay
Yusuke, the painter guy, looks pretty fabulous. It'd probably be him. The girls all probably straight as an arrow, or bicurious at best.

>>2045773
Yes, but it's optional, if we consider how Arena went, the canon is "everyone is just friends" with hints at some couples

We know it's just goggles, but it's still fun

>>2045775
Just watched the trailer. I may still end up playing it but any yuri would really just be a bonus. I could see the glasses girl being a fujoshi.

>>2045774
He does look like Jun from P2, so it would make some sense

>>2045784
Pretty much how i approach these games, personally, i think Persona 3 is awesome by itself, YukaMitsu and the FeMC route in the portable version are indeed a very nice bonus, but i would still love the game even without it

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>>2045773
>just not a great series for yuri
>FeMC can have sex with two girls AND hold hands with a third.

>>2045810
>FeMC
>Doesn't even exists

>>2045730
But really now, don't the fans romanticize all the pairs of close friends?

>>2045869
Yeah, but when it comes to yuri, there won't be much fanart, fanfics and doujins unless there really is some strong subtext

>>2045861
But she is a playable character

>>2045861
She's canon but Atlus doesn't really like to talk about her. She was in the stage play

>>2045810
Yeah, but she said series. P3P and an optional scene in P2 are as far as the series goes. I'm expecting P5 to follow P4's lead and have a shippable duo where we don't get anything substantial and who are both dateable by the MC, maybe a side char with a few lines saying how much she likes a girl.

>>2045918
I assume that they just like to stick with ManC more because he came first, so that makes him the canon protagonist of P3

And it's probably more convenient to have a SI Male MC in the series considering how many fans are waifufags

>>2045930
>And it's probably more convenient to have a SI Male MC in the series considering how many fans are waifufags
It honestly would be better for them if they had dual protagonists considering how many fujos and otome fangirls they have as well. Why they are satisfied with just waifufags is baffling.

Anyway, if there isn't a definite edition with FeMC again, I'm shipping Council President with Ann

>>2045773
>I've only played 3 and 4 but the MC can also romance those girls.

So?

>It's just not a great series for yuri.
P3P was best yuri game I've ever played.

>>2046186
>look up any videogame on ff.net
>most fics are het

>>2046161
>Why they are satisfied with just waifufags is baffling
Because waifufags are arguably more numerous and the ones giving them the most money out-of-pocket. I don't think the same can be said for fujos or otome fans.

>>2046186
Hey buddy, /v/ is one board down.

>>2046161
It's hard for me to imagine them making the same effort they did with the FeMC route in P3P again (actually including new content rather than just changing pronouns) for the release, specially considering how huge the game looks

Maybe we can get a FeMC route as DLC later, it would be more viable than re-releasing a FES/Golden/Portable version

>>2046200
I'm pretty sure waifufags are a tiny minority of those who play these games and most of the audience is just normal people.

>>2046203
? why

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Post lewd pics again

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>>2046220
How about this?

>>2046221
Not enough lewd

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>>2046221
Someone didn't do Aigis's Social Link.

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>>2046222
There is not a lot of new stuff

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>>2046227
Oh, i certainly did, Minako x Aigis is my favorite Persona couple

I'm just posting some new stuff, like this picture set, some rare pairings here

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>>2046231
Labrys yuri is pretty rare, so here it is

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>>2046233

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>>2046234

>>2046205
>implying they won't rerelease it as a port to another system for even more cash like they did with p4g that came with a short playable epilogue

>>2046311
Well, they already announced that there will be DLC (P3/P4 school uniforms and Personas)

I can at least hope that i won't have to buy this game two times

>>2046442
>I can at least hope that i won't have to buy this game two times
Nothing forces you to buy it day one, or even year one, you know? There's nothing wrong with waiting to see if an inevitably superior version will be released later and only buying that one instead.

>>2046447
To be honest, when was the last time a Persona game didn't get a superior and expanded version later ?

>>2046465
>>2046447
I know, but really, this is one of the only games that i'm interested in this year, so i'm not going to wait

I'll take the risk, maybe it'll be DLC this time

Is it true they added more women to Persona 5? Could any of them be gay?

>>2046552
See >>2045587

We can only speculate at this point, but based on looks alone, biker-chan might be our girl

>>2046447
>>2046465
>superior
>pre-P4G release explicitly stated to not have femYu
Was the p3p's femc included in any animated cutscenes?

>>2046606
P3P didn't have the anime cutscenes (replaced with in engine 3D ones or stills from them). I guess it was a UMD space issue, but it must have also reduced the work involved with implementing a second protagonist.

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Regardless of the reasons why someone might want a FeMC, for yuri or for otome or just because, the fact is, is that it's one of(if not THE most) popular requests among all MegaTen franchises.

And the reality is, is that they aren't regularly implementing it even in the series where characterization is slim and the cosmetic elements to it are trivial(e.g. SMT4 which does everything outside of navigation in first person), and to do so in Persona, especially with the higher production values in 5 where it'll get even more labor intensive to do so, even if the MC stays mostly silent and voicework is mostly just flavor clips.

>>2046821
>it's like they refuse to do it
I'm disappointed too.

>>2046821
>>2046847
>it's like they refuse to do it
Yeah..and it hurts doubly because they already did it once and everyone loved her and the reception was very good and then everyone was expecting FemYu in Golden but nope.
I wouldn't mind the main character being male if Persona was like the other jRPGs where you can kick the "MC" out of the party like you can in FFs ot Tales of games, and instead control some female character on the overworld, but despite the MC of Persona not having that much personality usually he is integral part of the game and you are supposed to consider him yourself and everything revolves around him basically.
Unfortunately Atlus is not best with giving their fans what they want. Hell, in 2016 they still barely even acknowledge the existence of Europe.

>>2046970
Well, this might be me being naively optimistic but consider the following:
>P3 is first released in 2006
>P3FES - 2007
>P4 - 2008
>P3P comes out in 2010, with a Femc and Vincent cameo. P5 is confirmed to begin development in this year.
>Catherine has appeared. It's the killer, do not die. 2011. Features adult themes and relationship dynamics and a new graphic engine.
>P4 is re-released in 2012 as P4G with Marie, another waifu.
>P4Arena is released in 2012 with BlazBlue style. Hints at another P3xP4 crossover.
>P4ArenaSuperModeUltimax is re-released in 2013 with a new edgy character
>PQ comes out to pander in 2014 in chibi style
>P4Miku comes out in 2015, with 3D models similar to Catherine.
>P5 for 2016 with Catherine's engine. Has DLC for P3 and P4 uniforms.

It's obvious they poured their time into making P5 and just phoned it on on anything that wasn't their main project.

Speculations:
>Catherine was practice for P5
>Everything after P3P until now has been to buy time for P5 and the P3xP4 crossover
>P3xP4 crossover will use the 3D models seen in P4Miku
>Once they release P5 we'll get P5-2 in a year with Femc and an epilogue. Femc will be bi unless they won't let you sex up the P5 Yukari again.
>They'll re-re-re-release even more games with Femc
>Already have P3 and P4 uniforms modeled, so
>They'll re-re-release P3 and P4 using updated graphics like Pokemon
>P6 comes out. Everything else was just buying time. No Femc again.

>>2046992
Mistake, P5 uses a different engine from Catherine.

>>2046992
Yeah, that's way too optimistic to expect out of Atlus.

>>2046997
>tfw femc appears in Persona 13.

>>2046992
The more time they pour into P5, the more the series gets like an interactive anime experience (not WRPG-esque) with more work involved in stuff like its cutscenes, and the less likely it is they'll add another protagonist later.

>>2045765
>Welp, apparently the game will be about people who are "restrained by rules set by society in Japan"
Isn't that Persona 4 already

>>2046821
they dont do it cause no one wants yuri in their games

>>2047250
Yeah, but i can see some differences

P5's theme is "emancipation", so i'm expecting the characters to actually break free of society's rules

In P4 the characters had similiar issues, but it seems to me that by the end of the game they just "accept" society's rules and act the way they're expected to

Like, Yukiko wanted to be free and didn't want to inherit the Inn... but she inherited it anyway and presumably stayed in Inaba for the rest of her life

Rise wanted people to know her true self and not "Risette"... but then she decided to keep acting like Risette anyway, i guess because people like her more that way

Kanji was supposed to accept his feminine side and understand that he doesn't need to be a "tough guy" in order to be a real man... and yet he still get mad at Yosuke's dumb gay jokes and acts like Mr. Manly McManson all the time

And so on, i guess things will end up different this time

>>2047271
all of that kinda pissed me off to be honest

>>2047271
They accept that those are parts of them, but it doesn't mean that they embrace them.

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>>2047271
Persona 4 was a mistake.

>>2047275
Yukiko is raised to be a Yamato Nadeshiko and inherit the Amagi Inn, however, she feels like she is being forced into doing so... but then just accepts it anyway, suddenly she realises "Hey, i actually want to inherit the Inn! Even though i was stressed, felt pressured to do it and angsted out a lot about how restrained my life was!"

Rise became an idol because she was bullied in middle school and wanted to make friends, so she comes up with Risette, an idol persona that everyone seems to love, then she realises that people only like "Risette" and not "Rise", so she angsts out because of how people can't see her real self... but in the end she decides to become full-time Risette because that's what everyone likes

Kanji became obsessed with being a real man because of what his father told him, but he likes cute and feminine things, he hides that by acting all delinquent, he supposely accepts his feminine side and realises that his tough guy act only made people scared of him and pushed them away... but then he still acts the same way, gets extremely angry at gay jokes and doesn't seem comfortable with his feminine side at all

I mean, they still act in the same way that used to in order to be more accepted by society, even though it contradicts their true self. So my point is that P5, while having the same "restrained by society" theme, might differ from P4 because of the "slavery and emancipation" theme, i expect the characters to just be who they really are without any façade to be more accepted

Like, if Yusuke ends up being gay for example, he should be like

>Yeah, i'm fucking gay, so what? I LOOOOOVE COCKS!

Rather than being pissed of about it

I always thought Yukiko's deal was that it wasn't working at the inn that upset her, but it was because she felt that she had no say/choice in the matter. She felt trapped, like her entire life had already been decided for her, without her input. Then over time she realized that she did somewhat enjoy the inn because of the people she befriended and at the end of her rank made a conscious, free choice to stay there, instead of feeling caged like she used to.

Why don't you employ that energy you got to draw some yuri of the new girls instead of using it to argue?

>>2047311
Quite honestly, yes.

>>2047271
>>2047312
There is also Naoto who dresses up as a guy because she fears no one will take her seriously in her dream profession as a woman.
She can be later seen in some girlier clothes occasionally but in the end in all the sequels she still mainly dresses herself in man clothes.

>while having the same "restrained by society" theme, might differ from P4 because of the "slavery and emancipation" theme
Hopefully, because you know, it's still the same dev team and probably the same writers who may have the same views of "yeah some things are fucked up but in the end for society's sake it's better to accept it".
In Catherine for example it turned out the same way pretty much Guy is scared of commitment and the presure of society to settle down and produce offspring. In the good ending he "mans up", realizes that's what he actually wants and comes back to his gf.

> if Yusuke ends up being gay for example
Please don't say that. Our collective energy has to make the Council Pres gay, not one of the guys.

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>>2047312
Persona 4 is a little smarter than that. Its understanding of personality is basically Existentialist: there is no such thing as an immutable true personality and we create ourselves through our actions. For instance, even though Rise wasn't originally a bubbly outgoing girl, acting like one for some time has made it a part of her personality. She basically says all that after the boss fight against her Shadow, which ends up freaking Teddy out.

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>>2047868
She also says that the "normal girl" Rise is part of her, and yet she is becomes Idol Risette 24/7

Maybe i just didn't get it, but i really hated how some of the characters arc went like

>I'm really a "X", but i'm forced to be a "Y"
>Waah! I hate this! I don't wanna be a "Y"! I wanna be a "X"!
>Hey, i'm totally fine with being a "Y" now, i actually wanted to be one all along but i just didn't realise it!

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>>2047914
She does occasionally show a more serious and quiet side, particularly in her social link, but it's also there in some of the plot interactions. Her telling Naoto to stop treating the case as a game is a good example.

But yeah, it is a little annoying how every single character decides that to live authentically they should do exactly what is expected of them. Kanji's probably the least conforming, since he manages to openly integrate his love of crafts and cuteness into his badass persona. It's bullshit they didn't make him explicitly gay, though.

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Behold, the first Persona 5 yuri fanart

So apparently the "biker chick" is the student council president.

>>2048434
Yes, we already knew that since the trailer.

I just started Persona 3, no spoilers please, but about how many hours does it take for the robot girl to show up?

>>2048864
About half-way through the game

>>2048865
Neato.

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>>2048864
July 21st.

>>2047960
there is evidence on disk that proves Yosuke was supposed to be gay. He has recorded dialouge that goes unused for his level ten social link where he says, "I love you" and, "Don't make me say embarrassing things like that."

Persona 4 was also supposed to have the same girlfriend system that Persona 3 had. If a girl caught you cheating on her, the social link would reverse and you would have to talk it out before it was too late. In Persona 4, this system still exists, but goes unused. All of the girls in your party even have special dialouge if you talk to them in the dungeons when their s. links are reversed using cheat devices. All of the girls including Yosuke. Teddie and Kanji surprisingly do not have any changed dialouge at all.

check this out if you want more information: https://tcrf.net/Persona_4

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>>2049390
That just makes their failure to include any canon homo in the finished game more annoying.

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>>2049390
>"I love you"
Fujoshi goggles?

>>2049440
I'm definitely not a fujoshi but if you read all these other lines surrounding "i like you" and didn't think the confession has romantic implications I don't know what to say to you.
Plus the fact "suki" can be translated to love depending on context (in this case it would definitely fit).

>>2049446
It's bromance, not romance. To think it proves he was supposed to be gay is very much fujoshi goggles.

>>2049449
Let me guess, you one of those unicorns who go around /u/ trying to prove how any of the girls discussed here aren't really gay? Gotcha.

>>2049450
In your tiny pea brain, is there only scope to imagine everyone holds one of two extremes?

>>2049449
Straight boys don't suki each other, and at least Yuri Lowenthal's delivery of the line is clearly romantic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ogh3mdPHsA

>>2049457
4chan is nothing but extremes.

>>2049457
No, but in your tiny pea brain, that's what you are only capable of, apparently, you vulgar pleb.
It's a cut piece of a social link, which in itself implies its content was found unsuitable to ship. If it was completely platonic bros being bros there would be no reason to cut it out now, would there?
Secondly you can make up terms like "bromance" all you want to allow 100% heterosexual men being homo with each other guilt free, but that doesn't translate necessarily to other cultures.
Even if you think there is totally nothing gay about two totally heterosexual bros telling each other they want to stand by each other's side with sun setting in the background while blushing furiously throughout, it doesn't change the fact that saying "suki da yo" within that context cements your intentions.

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>>2049449
It's not necessarily 100% hard evidence that he was supposed to the gay romance option, but there are a few things you might want to consider before dismissing it

The first one is that the line "suki" is used by every single girl in the romance route Max S. Link, and that's what Yosuke says

Then there is the way the line is delivered, which sounds like he is nervous and adds a more "confession" tone to it

Yosuke also has a constant gay panic through out the game, he makes fun of Kanji all the time, you can make him freak out and blush by saying you want to date him in the school festival, you can hug him at rank 8 on his S. Link and he will say "that's for girls" and a his S. Link has a few times were he will call you to hang out but also asks you to call someone else so that people don't think you're dating each other

So if you combine his insecurity issues with how he acts to towards Kanji, they could've been trying to go with something like "He makes fun of Kanji being sexually confused in order to hide the fact that he is sexually confused as well"

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>>2049857
We're really scraping the bottom of the barrel now huh?

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I wish there was more FeMC/Aigis or Mitsuru or Elizabeth
I could never get into Yukari/Mitsuru

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Wow, this ship is really popular

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>>2050933
yeah, it is getting difficult to find /u/-relevant images that have not already been posted in previous threads.

>>2051270
i wonder why. i do not remember there being a lot of /u/ subtext between naoto and rise in persona 4.

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>>2052226
I always suspected it was something lost in translation, but apparently, the ship only exists because their Seyuus have a history of being paired in their roles

>>2052237
>>2052226
Also according to hearsay, there's an NPC who mistakenly thinks them to be a couple after spotting them together in town.

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1/4

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>>2054661
2/4

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>>2054662
3/4

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>>2054664
4/4

>>2042052

Artist source on this?

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>>2055108
nilam (nyamcattt)

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>>2057722
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RIP

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Does anyone have any other Aigis x Yukiko crossovers aside from pic related?

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Yay, there is a new thread.
>>2039621
Persona 2: Innocent Sin has a character who's gay, and it gets reciprocated in some routes.

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>>2065927
That's a pretty odd pairing. Where did it come from? Didn't play P4AU.

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Woohoo, some P5. Much higher res here:
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=57210267

>>2070062
I miss when newfags learned the rules of each board.

>>2068387
It's pure crack. I just like to see my two favorite girls together.

>>2051287
>So that's her preference!

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Share uncommon ships! I love Minako x Fuuka.

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>>2071129
Love me some Rise x Fuuka!

>>2071331
I like how Rise's going for the boob, but it would be better if that was college Fuuka.

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>>2071352
To be honest I didn't think of the p4 arena variant of the ship with college Fuuka but it's quite appealing, I gotta admit.
I just found their dynamic and interactions in the Persona Q story really cute!

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One of my favorite images ever

>>2071865
I honestly love this trio with FMC.

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I wish this world had more FeMC yuri

How's the yuri potential looking for Persona 5?
Which female characters will be paired up the most?
What will be the YukaMitsu or ChieYukiko of Persona 5?

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>>2081392
Well, we can only make guesses at this point, so here goes

First we have Haru, her persona (pic related) wears a dress embroidered with lilies, so obviously, Haru is 100% confirmed lesbian

Then we have Makoto, from what i've seem she is basically a tomboy-ish version of Mitsuru and also a biker, biker girls have a high chance of being lesbians

Next we have Ann, on one hand she is "the main girl" which means that it will be at least implied that she likes the MC at some point, on the other hand Yukari and Yukiko also were "main girls" and they ended up on both of the most popular yuri ships in P3 and P4, i dunno, even if she is the new Yukari/Yukiko she doesn't seem to have the same lesbian potential

And finally we have...

>character name is "Futaba"
>glasses
>headphones
>"hackerz"
>acts/talks crazy/cutesy/excited during battle
>is a shut-in that wears masks around everyone except for the MC, to whom she opens up to

Yeah, trying a little bit too hard to be the next "best girl", she is most likely the new waifu pandering character so i doubt she will give /u/ any shipping material... and i know Rise was kind of like that and NaoRise is still a thing, but honestly i think NaoRise is one of the most forced yuri ships ever and that all of the "subtext" for it was really weak

Then there is Morgana and that new goth chick that appeared on the e3 trailer, but i got nothing for them

As for what ship will be the most popular, i think it could be either Makoto x Haru (which would be funny since we would be sharing a shipname with yaoi fangirls of Free!) or Makoto x Ann (if we go by P3/P4 logic)

>>2081392
I hope Ann and Makoto have subtext because they are both best girls to me so far.

>>2081457
I think you're right about Makoto x Haru or Makoto x Anne ending up being the most pop/u/lar. And yeah, we'll just have to come up with a different combination of their names other than MakoHaru.

I don't know what to expect, well, better not to expect much at all, but this >>2049373 kinda made me want to hope for some Futaba/Anne

>>2081460
So from what we know so far, Makoto is an honor student, the president of the student council, strict and a perfectionist. And Anne has these rumors going on about her (possibly that she is sleeping with men or something because of that stalker, who knows) so Makoto may have the wrong impression of her at first and think of her as "problem student". I feel like they may get off on the wrong foot but gradually open up to each other and grow closer, à la YukaMitsu.

>>2081457
>Then we have Makoto, from what i've seem she is basically a tomboy-ish version of Mitsuru and also a biker, biker girls have a high chance of being lesbians

Her freakin' bike is also in a female shape

>>2081471
>inb4 Makoto x human!Johanna takes the top spot

>>2081457
>i think NaoRise is one of the most forced yuri ships ever and that all of the "subtext" for it was really weak
As opposed to Chie/Yukiko, who have a little bit of subtext during the first few hours of the game and are barely even depicted as friends after that?

>>2081474
Different anon here. It's been a while since I've played Persona 4 and I never really got into NaoRise so maybe I didn't pay enough attention but what subtext did they have?

>>2081477
It's not much either. Almost all the gay in Persona 4 is of the male/male variety.

>>2081477
According to an anon earlier >>2052237, it's seiyuu shipping more than character shipping.

>>2081470
That's one of the things that i want back from P3, exploring relationships inside of the team WITHOUT having the MC or everyone else around, as opposed to P4 where everyone was together all the time

I mean, this is what made YukaMitsu so much better than Yukiko x Chie for me, we could actually see how they act around each other without the MC or the rest of the SEES around, some their best scenes (like the Kyoto trip or the one in Yukari's room) happened when they were all alone, this made their relationship feel much stronger than anything we got in P4

Not only for the /u/, for character development in general, it just made it feel like each character had their own lives outside of yours, like the Junpei/Chidori, Fuuka/Natsuki, Akihiko/Shinjiro scenes

>>2081474
I never said Yukiko x Chie was any good either i actually kind of dislike P4 in general

>>2081489
I know exactly how you feel, anon. Persona 3 earned itself a very special spot in my heart fro mthe very first gameplay and it left a more meaningful mark on me than Persona 4 and I could never get as attached to the P4 cast as I am to the P3 cast. Same goes for the ships. I ship both YukaMitsu and ChieYukiko but YukaMitsu has more depth and a more versatile and interesting dynamic. It was explored both in the game and the drama CDs outside of the MC's perspective and just like you said, that definitely made the difference.

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>>2081489
>>2081491
I get why the P4 devs decided to do that, since the games really wants you to identify with the main characters and it thus didn't really make sense to regularly show events the MC wasn't present for in P3. However, it's a minor flaw compared to how much richer the P3 characters and their relationships are than in P4. Plus, it made the game feel less like an unreconstructed power fantasy for teenage boys.

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>>2042287

If it's of interest, been working on and off on an Aigis/FeMC fic based mostly on having watched a friend playing P4 (yes, I know, not same thing as P3, thank you) through a particularly hot, dull Summer. And by playing I do mean as Persona is *actually* played.
Basically the whole plot - or narrative vaguely reminicent of a plot - has nothing to do with the story of the game, but is just Aigis putting up with the main character's nonsensical and sometimes obviously destructive routine of daily shenanigans: Trying to keep her out of harm's way, get her to stay in school, not spend all pocket money on beef bowls, and so forth - all the while struggling increasingly uphill to keep her own temperature down and stay running.
Slightly AU in that Aigis is completely undercover and not known to be an android, and stays that way because everyone in the setting - especially the main character - is utterly daft and oblivious to the obvious. To such degree that when they inevitably end up in bed, she completely fails to notice how the little robot girl has nothing under the skirt.

Maybe it's about time I finish it up.

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>when physical-oriented party members are better in Persona Q, but you keep Yukari and Mitsuru in the party because they have personal party dialogue with each other

>>2082161
Isn't that basically Shipping Fanservice: The Game?

>>2081474
>a little bit of subtext
A dominatrix supported on a tower of schoolgirls and a caged bird is a little bit of subtext.

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>>2082166
Eh, it's more benign fanservice than anything else.

>the Velvet Room residents making fun of Marie all the time
>everybody just being goofy as hell

The only real overtly shipping thing is probably just the end of the Group Date Cafe Dungeon where depending on how you answered the questions, the MC of the route you chose gets paired up with anyone of any gender or species. I got Junpei on P3 route and Yosuke on P4 route by answering genuinely.

Obviously since P3's FeMC isn't an option, no real /u/ relevance there.

But in the P3 route, since nobody's really gone through their significant character development yet(and Shinjiro is still alive), you get to see it happen in its own way as the P3 cast interacts more with the more emotionally candid P4 cast. Yukari and Mitsuru are the real catalyst of that, and they talk about wishing they were closer to each other, by name.

Then everybody's happy and cooperative and you get into battles and Yukari and Mitsuru are always talking to each other, whether it's hyping each other up as the battle starts or healing each other or commenting on each other's combat status.

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>>2083420

>>2082220
If it's set that early in the game, shouldn't Yukari and Mitsuru still be awkward around each other?

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>>2082052

>the little robot girl has nothing under the skirt.

Speaking of which, I know this might be a very strange thing to ask, but does anyone else find it strangely, ironically erotic how Aegis doesn't have any genitals?

I was going to type out a very elaborate argument, but I'll settle for saying that her peculiar design with certain details that are problematic or sometimes outright unattractive gives her a quite rare and distinct identity in fanwork, rather than the often seen "character head on pornstar body"-solution. Also, how she's not obviously sexually capable from a glance makes relations more intricate, and - especially as a lot of literature has very young and inexperienced characters jumping into perfect sexual relationships a handwave - it's nice for a change seeing writers pausing and having the characters spend at least a page or two (or three) figuring out exactly how to go about things. Or trying and failing, for that matter. That tends to bring out a sense of intimacy you don't often see.

Pic strongly related. While it can be questioned if FeMC has entirely noble intentions, it was really nice for a change seeing a doujin that doesn't assume sex always ends in mutual orgasm. If it takes a sexless magic-wielding killer robot to make it, I'm fine with that.

>>2084399
Sauce?

I want Persona 2 pictures.

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Yuko fan here. There's so little art of the delicious chocolate waifu, yuri or otherwise. Anybody got any?

>>2086109
What's the name of this doujin?

>>2087475
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/kaishaku_p3p

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Time for some korean goodies

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>>2093304

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If someone does the translation, I'll happily typeset it.