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Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica - 3P edition

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Last thread: >>2017767

Some archived threads:
http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Threads#Threads_on_/u/
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News:
http://matomagi.doorblog.jp/
http://madokanews.tumblr.com/
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-category-23.html
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Subs:
(protip, use nyaa)
TV: get "Meguca;" "tri4" for subbed commentaries
Compilation: get "Coal Girls"
Rebellion:
Meguca
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=552753

NAX (Aniplex subs, 720p)
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=537610

Reinweiss (Modified Aniplex subs with honorifics and JP name order, 720p)
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=537734
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Fanfiction:
http://pastebin.com/VRVQSNGY
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Doujinshi archives:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mad1y92708hlz
http://www.mediafire.com/madokadoujin
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/l7qp2j028n2uc
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Madoka Library:
http://piratepad.net/MadokaLibrary
http://sites.google.com/site/madokacatalog
https://mega.co.nz/#F!BIt1FAxR!Ebrx91Z0PT970NanZTWCFQ
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/l7qp2j028n2uc
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Scanlation Groups:
http://silvergardentl.blogspot.com/
http://yuri-ism.com/tag/madoka-magica/
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Latest English Releases
http://dynasty-scans.com/doujins/puella_magi_madoka_magica
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>>2025005
Bonus points if no ubiquitous Mami in your 3P.
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Does this count?
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Mami is indeed almost ubiquitous.
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>>2025066
Give me all your multi-Mados pls
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>>2025076
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>>2025081
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>>2025090
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>>2025090
Reminds me of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohf0n6ymcso
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>>2025093
Yeah, the Trump Card and all that.
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Is she going to reconcile Madoka's desire to have her purity defiled by a dark stranger and Homura's need to be punished like the masochistic pig she it?
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Is it NTR?
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I still lie in hope that this HomuKyo anthology will some day be scanlated
http://exhentai.org/g/669774/e960401780/
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>>2025061
yes it does
at the madokas: "learn to share!! and be nice to each other!!!!"
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>>2025143
So why is it that we only get a 2-3 KyouSaya and maybe 1 MadoHomu a year nowadays? Was the retard right?
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>>2025183
Times change? LL is the new flavour of the week.
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>>2025183
It's been awhile since the Rebellion fever and prominent madomagi yuri doujin artists are moving on to greener pastures, and the main raw provider back in the day (emer-kun aka yurihou.se) went missing. A significant raw provider since then was anticrack-kun (yes, that very retard you refer to), but you know how all the crack drama broke his mind and he's now being totally unproductive by rageposting in /u/ (and dynasty and sadpanda etc) everytime he gets triggered by anything that he hates (ie all the time) instead of scanning and translating. Many madohomu kyousaya artists whose doujins he bought started creating fanwork that he didn't like may have significantly contributed to his mad ravings we see these days. I think that's what he means be 'attacking the fandom and scanlators' because in his mind he's all 'I AM the fandom!', but I digress.

tl;dr no one has taken over the madoka doujin binge-purchasing spree duty to provide huge amounts of new raws, and on the translation side of things, many scanlators have slowed down in their release pace in general (yuriproject, yuri-ism etc) or stopped altogether (yurihouse, anticrack-kun etc).
Also problems like scanlation group founders moving on in life, (ie graduating from university) and having a lot less time to scanlate in general, while new recruits to the group are likely not part of the 2011 madomagi generation.
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>>2025212
>>2025188
Save for the fact scanlation only stopped happening once certain people started spamming threads to the image limit.
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>>2025188
Yeah, I did notice that.

>>2025212
>no one has taken over the madoka doujin binge-purchasing spree duty to provide huge amounts of new raws

I'm willing to buy some and upload it. And life does move on. I'm a government bureaucrat and have a lot of free time. I'd love to translate, but saldy my moon runes are limited to Google image translate.

If anyone knows of Madomagi doujinshi that they'd like to see upload, I'd be willing to buy more than a few raws if y'all can find it on Melonbooks or something similar. I do have a MadoHomu bias though.
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Wtf? Nobody even posted crack.
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>>2025188
>LL is the new flavour of the week

I wish I could like LL but somehow I just can't get into it. Idol stuff gets boring so quickly.
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>>2025276
Their dead, souless eyes bug me.
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>>2025183
Yuri-ism is working on KyouSaya doijins as we speak.
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>>2025278
Art-style isn't the issue. Dead, soulless eyes are moe.
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>>2025217
So what I'm getting from this is that the scanlators should stop spamming and get back to work?
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>>2025212

>A significant raw provider since then was anticrack-kun (yes, that very retard you refer to), but you know how all the crack drama broke his mind and he's now being totally unproductive by rageposting in /u/ (and dynasty and sadpanda etc) everytime he gets triggered by anything that he hates (ie all the time) instead of scanning and translating.

As I recall, it was the other way around. He started scanning and translating to make us feel obligated to him, and stopped as soon as it became obvious we weren't going to happily ignore his psycho shit.
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>>2025351
Last thing I remember he was holding a MamiNagi doujin hostage, but the anon of /u/ honestly didn't care and were probably kind of amused by the hypocrisy of him calling us degenerates while he actually owned a lolicon doujin.

But yeah, guy was always an idiot. Zero correlation between the content of doujin and the amount of content one series gets. Doujin authors draw what they like and what they like is usually what is popular at the moment. End of story.

tl;dr: Homura did nothing wrong
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I've wanted this one for a while.
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>>2025425
The only problem is I want to see the rest of that scene.
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>>2025433
It's a KyoSaya doujinshi with a little MamiNagi. That and the last page are some funny MadoHomu.
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>>2025433
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/921374/32eaa341f9/
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>>2025450
As in the whole clone foursome outside of futa
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>>2025449
I know, I read it. I want to see the bit that there exists no illustration of. Just to be contrary.
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>>2025452
Ayane really dropped the ball there.
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>>2025454
I would have honestly preferred it. I'm hoping the Christmas one is done some day. It's not too lewd, but the story looked interesting.
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Are we still posting multiple versions of characters?
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>>2025463
Pervy Madoka is a perennial favourite of mine.
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>>2025463
>Rebellion transformation pose
Madoka can be a dork too
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>>2025467
Do you have any more? I really don't have much at all.
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>>2025481
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>>2025476
>>2025478
>>2025481
>>2025483
>Domme, perverted Madoka
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/qh5vg9axvv75ese/Ochikano.pdf?dl=0

Sorry my scans arent too great, but I said Id upload the latest Maitake a while back. I havent seen it posted anywhere else yet.
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This might be a first for Maitake.
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>>2025474
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Any domme madoka fics?
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>>2025582
>that caption with that image
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>>2025450
Bahah, Office Lady shows up.
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>>2025515
Thanks anon! I don't 100% get what's going on, but presumably Akuma's schemes backfired on her once again?
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>>2025711
Yep. From what I gather, Homu succeeds in her attempt at seduction... only to fall asleep.
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>>2025722
I love Maitake's HomuHomu.
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>>2025735
I thought ack didn't mind Maitake?
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>>2025754
I thought she was just drawing less in general since she got a real job drawing het porn for comic Eros.
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>>2025754
I recall a certain someone being hopping mad over this.
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>>2025760
>Been doing the same amount of content for a while and has been putting out a doujin almost every comiket.
How much shit have we been missing out on over the last while?
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>>2025765
The KyoSaya was the only one that hadn't been uploaded. All the others have, but few have been translated.
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>>2025474
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>>2025757
Kasumi (Love Live yuri doujin artist) also got a real job drawing het porn for an ero manga magazine.
Life is suffering.
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>>2025862
Gotta pay the bills somehow.
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>>2025722
Aw man, I really like Maitake2's stuff, there are untranslated ones?
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>>2025876
Most of his work is untranslated.

Ultimate DeviKano
MajoKano
NiseKano
TowaKano
OchiKano

He also has a MadoKano/DeviKano compilation that has about 10 new shorts in it.
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>>2025882
That blows, is anyone working on them? Do we at least have the scans?
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>>2025891
How much do I have to pay you?
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>>2025375
I thought you were joking about one guy holding stuff hostage for imagined slights, but I just saw his reply to my post before it got janitor'd.
Don't get why would he go through the trouble of buying and translating to just not put it up though.
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>>2025888
Yes. All the scans are out and have been out for a while. I think my upload above was the only one I hadnt seen posted. They all look very funny. Im going to try and get a better scan of it later.
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>>2025899
I've typeset some work before and never released it. Mainly because I was too self-concious of being judged for the quality.
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>>2025910
Typesetting is an underappreciated job, but I'm pretty sure it'd be fine. I've never really seen anyone bitch about that.
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>>2025929
I did this one along with the translation. I'll post it later.
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>>2025515
Thanks, anon!
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>>2025779
Which doujin is this?
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>>2025862
As long as it allows them to continue making doujins it's alright though isn't it? Not every ero yuri doujinka can be mira.
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>>2026120
It's literally called MadoHomu.
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>Budding footfag, tried to not add another fetish to my list
>Find this
>Fetish complete

What I really liked about it, though, was the little SoL part in the beginning with Homucifer and Madokami
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>>2026317
>Budding footfag

Please see "It's Time to Fall?" and get back to us.

Ouroboros Duo is probably the pinnacle of MadoHomu.
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>>2025276
Idol stuff is objectively shit, its no wonder you hate it. stuff is cancer on every level, from the behavior of the idols, to the industry, to the fans.
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>>2026327
>mfw somebody shares my opinion on idol shit
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>>2026322
>Please see "It's Time to Fall?" and get back to us.
Thanks for the rec anon, The first 2/3rds were good but the ending was meh.

>Ouroboros Duo is probably the pinnacle of MadoHomu.
I really enjoyed even the non-porn parts but I wouldn't say it's the be all end all
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>>2026327
>>2026343
There were series I could stand, like the first Im@s and Locoldol, but even those I had to push myself to watch, they were just watchable enough to not drop. It's a shame, because LL and Im@s have a ton of yuri doujin content.
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>>2026343
>>2026327
>>2026348
I love idolshit.

At the very least you could ignore almost everything about them - the songs, the industry, the fans - and still keep the characters and their interactions and ships. There's a number of good yuri doujins and ships out there for idol characters. Why deny yourself?
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>>2026347
>Thanks for the rec anon, The first 2/3rds were good but the ending was meh.

A-10 has trouble ending stories. He (?) mostly does futa, but all he scenarios are the same: strong start amd middle, weak end.

>I really enjoyed even the non-porn parts but I wouldn't say it's the be all end all

Which one is your fav?
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>>2025188
No English scanlators. The Madoka Tieba still gets regular releases. New doujin are still getting published in Japan. Madoka circles in Comiket has been steady ~200 for years now. It's really just the English-language side of the fanbase that languished.
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>>2026317
Go read Ayanero's doujin Engagement Ring too, if you haven't already.
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>>2026351
That's the problem though, you can't watch the series and ignore all that crap.

You can read the doujins and such, but they frequently center around events, subjects, etc from the source material. It's kind of annoying to start reading say, an angst doujin and characters are crying about X happening, or Girl A doing something with Girl C (who isn't actually shown in the doujin) that is what is making Girl B jealous.

Doujins are just a lot better with context.
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>>2026420
>Go read Ayanero's doujin Engagement Ring too, if you haven't already.
I just got around to it - it was really great.

>Cute story with a nice romance
>Nice art
>Sexy
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>>2025450
It was alright but they totally dropped the ball with the clones thing. It could have been really hot, but nope, it was mostly for a gag.
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>>2027064
Agreed. I always enjoy Ayane's plots, but if you're going to include clones, there'd better be at minimum a foursome and some selfcest thrown in.
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>>2027297
L-lewd! This has Ume written all over it.
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>>2027297
Any new info in this, or is it an old issue?
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>>2027335
It's a new issue but I don't have any news on new info.
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>>2027316
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Madohomu is the best!
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>>2027619
>homura on top
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>>2027526
The hero Yuri deserves.
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>>2027619
Very true.
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>>2027645
>homura poledancing for madoka
Yesh
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>>2027652
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>>2027619
That's HomuMado, not MadoHomu.
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>>2027658
I need more of Homura being made Madoka's subby little bitch.
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>>2027704
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Moemura best Homu
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>>2027704
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Homura was born to lewd
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>>2027704
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>>2027711
Homura was born to be a bitch.
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>>2027714
Everyone's bitch
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>"Kan...Kaname-san..."
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>>2027716
>homura on top
yeah no. Also Madoka has sole breeding rights of Homura by the ancient yuri law of being the strongest. Sayaka and Kyoko get to be switches with their whole fighty and old married couple thing and Mami gets to molest a loli and/or an office lady.
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TELL ME ABOUT THE MEGUCAS
WHY DO THEY WEAR PANTSU ON HEAD?
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>>2027704
Homu was and always will be Madoka's little bitch.
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>>2027720
>Madoka has sole breeding rights of Homura
Show me the documents outlying this in detail, and then we'll talk.
I require PROOFS, sir or madam.
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>>2027724
Stop trying to summon you know who.
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HomuHomu
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>>2027724
It's in the book of madoka. Right after the whole rebellion thing. Translation varies a bit but everyone agrees that it's basically "madoka makes homura her bitch and wife" which in accordance to the tenants of madokaism, grants her sole breeding rights.
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>>2027726
Wait summon who now?
I've been away from /u/ for a while, is there something up with lewds or the like?
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>>2027730
>Book of Madoka
Please provide a copy of this text, so that I may study it thoroughly.
>Madokaism
I don't adhere to this faith

Also dom mado best mado
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>>2027730
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What is seaweedhair's face trying to convey?
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homuhomu
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>>2027733
You get a copy of the text when you join the church.
>>2027734
Yeah the art for the end of the rebellion is kinda weird on the catgirl planet.
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I see trees of green, and skies of blue,
I see them bloom for me and you.
And I think to myself,
"What a wonderful world!"
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>>2027739
>you must join our church to see our texts
Scientology tier
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>>2027741
>>2027735
>sayaka x hitomi
As much as I like more lesbians, I find hitomi being the single straight girl in her entire group of friends to be endlessly amusing.
>>2027744
It's a religion whose membership is made up entirely of women who love pussy and were granted magical powers by a race of alien cat assholes.

They don't' exactly hand out pocket bibles.
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>>2027730
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>>2027749
>by a race of alien cat assholes.
Wait, so are they cats that act like assholes, or are they literal disembodied feline anuses?
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>>2027754
Cats that act like assholes.

Like even for cats.
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>>2027757
That's a stretch. Doesn't sound scientifically possible.
I mean, come on. Assier than cats? Next you'll be telling me free will doesn't exist, or that Maine's the closest state to Africa.
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Jesus christ how lewd can Homu get?
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>>2027760
They're bigger assholes because they're sapient, immortal, probably precursor-tier old, and have no emotions whatsoever and lie by omission all the fuckign time.
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>Kirara Magica 25
>Shinbou: About the new piece of work, it’s like, we’re working on it wholeheartedly.
>Taniguchi: Well, in the case of MadokaMagica, there are all kinds of events being held, right? The MADOGATARI exhibition is going to Nagoya, and there’s some other places calling us. So my point is, the actual pictures animation isn't done just yet, but things like copyrighted illustrations and the merchandise are making progress on their own. We would like to have everyone expecting for those to come out.
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>>2027768
Why is Madoka peeing on Homura like that?
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>>2027783
Because Homura likes it?
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>>2027786
No, I mean the position is weird. Madoka is facing away from her and has to use the wind to get the pee on Homu's face.
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I can show you the world~
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>>2028065
>>2027779

Sequel when?
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>>2028129
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>>2028135
Well that's creepy.
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>>2028135
Is she going to be okay?
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>>2028135
Madowraith did nothing wrong.
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>>2028135
So based on the end of the series and Rebellion, I'm guessing Madoka is going to somehow
end up give her the black rose bow?
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>>2028200
>>2028135
Why's Madoka so creepy?
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>>2028135
Where I saw those pins?

Oh right! Homura's witch.
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>>2028214
Yeah, I'm really wondering how much of this is recycled art. Dumblr noticed there was a piece of the devil's seal.
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>>2028220
>>2028220
Clarification:

How much is recycled and how much is intentional.
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>>2028221
I hope that wraiths are not behind devil Homu...
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>>2028224
Doubt it. I think it's just Homura's fall into despair. The strength ot Rebellion's ending was that Homura made the conscious decision betray Madoka for the sake of her happiness. I think Shinbo also already confirmed the devil was created due to the now non-existent Madoka's karma being passed onto Homu. If Homu was manipulated, then it takes away from any reconciliation between the two.
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>>2027739
>You get a copy of the text when you join the church
Well shit, where do I sign up?
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>>2028244
they need some sleep
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>>2028259
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Am I the only one who thinks none of them are lesbians? Seriously, if you were put through such trying times you would come to be close to your friends.
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>>2028268
>None of them are lesbians
>None of them

You're either a troll or an idiot.
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>>2028268
Yeah, here on /u/ you're probably the only one
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>>2028274
>>2028276

I'm not a troll, and I don't think I'm an idiot.
Rebellion aside, I don't see why they should be.

Sayaka literally craves dick, and both she and Kyouko die just as they finally understand each other and realize they could be friends.

Madoka doesn't once show any signs of romantic interest for anyone. And neither does Mami for that matter.

Homura is clearly a little off, and I frankly don't see her clingyness to Madoka as being that strange or lesbian-like. She was a quiet shy friendless girl, and Madoka was the only one to reach out to her. She grew attached and after having bear seeing her literally only friend die awfully a hundred times goes crazy trying to protect her.

Nothing gay at all here.
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>>2028277
>Rebellion aside

Low quality bait.
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>>2028268
We're on /u/
EVERYONE'S a lesbian

I'm a lesbian
You're a lesbian
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>>2028277
I don't ship KyoSaya so i don't care about that

However, i can't see Homura's feelings as just "really strong friendship", not even counting Rebellion, Mami was also her friend at first but she clearly didn't care for her as much as she did for Madoka

It's that thing, you know?

If Madoka was a guy, Homura would totally be in love with him
If Homura was a guy, it would totally be an act of romantic love
If they both were guys, "haha, lol, that's GAY!"

And i would argue that Madoka's initial interest in Moemura could be interpreted as yuri, but maybe that's just me

But yeah, at the end of the day it's not 100% canon yuri, it's heavy subtext and you can say it's friendship if you want, but in that case, you don't really belong here
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>>2028268
The only one who isn't a lesbian is Sayaka, who is bisexual most likely. Even the token straight side girl is at least incidentally gay.
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>>2028290
The relationship between Homura and Mami isn't the same. It was Madoka that reached out to her.
She was there first when she rescued Homu in class, and called out to her when she was rescued a second time from the witch.
I get the sense that Homu would see Mami as a friend to Madoka and her sempai, not someone she could be close with.

Maybe I just have anti-yuri goggles or have latent purity-fag syndrome, but there's such thing as a strong friendship.
Thinking about it as you have put it by switching around genders, I could see it as love, but purely platonic. If they were both guys it wouldn't be 'LOL GAY' but a bromance.
I can call platonic love yuri, but I certainly don't see anything sexual with them like 90% of this thread.

>>2028296
I'm actually curious to see how the token straight girl, which I'm assuming to mean Hitomi, is 'incidentally gay'.
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>>2028298
Thought I referenced her by name, guess I forgot.

Anyways she admits being attracted to Homura in one of the games.
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>>2028298
Yes, you have anti-yuri googles

And the girls are 14 years old, you can't expect too much on the sexual side of things, but fanartists aren't going to care about that
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>>2028298
Also to touch on your skepticism on homumado, you've got one extremely important piece of imagery at the end of the series that supports it, madoka's red ribbons that she gives to Homura. Which represent the red string of fate, which is a chinese thing that japan has adopted in their media quite often.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_string_of_fate

Also naked space hug. And Urobuchi's general attitudes towards same sex relationships. And probably a shitload of interviews you could get with him and the VAs.

Also rebellion is perfectly valid evidence regarding kyosaya.
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>>2028290
This is the best way to qualifiy it. The real question has always been whether Madoka returns those feelings for Homu. I'd like to think she would, but I'm not Urobuchi or Shinbo. We have a whole movie or season to go and she was definitely something for Moemura in Rebellion despite not having any memories.
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>>2028301
Adding to the red string, Homu in the funeral dress and Madoka in the luminous dress appearing in concept movie B isn't subtle at all.
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>>2028301
Oh yeah, and the anime certainly wasn't shy with it's yuri jokes on the beggining or the yuri imagery torwards the end

I mean, c'mon, i know a miko embrace when i see one
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>>2028302
Yeah, Madoka was pretty affectionate with Homura despite not having memories in rebellion. Remember the gondola scene? Plus she specifically went with Sayaka and Nagisa to go retrieve Homura despite the fact that she probably could have sent any number of magical girls to bust Homura out and just swooped end once the observing Incubators were wiped out. Which also works with Sayaka volunteering to go so she could see Kyoko again.
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>>2028302
>>2028301
>>2028305

>rebellion
I'm talking about the series, not fanservice cashgrab movie.

>>2028304
As expected of a magical girl series. I'm just saying I see no forthright reason for it to be lesbians, especially for characters besides madohomu.
After discussing it here, I'm satisfied that Homura has at the very least platonic love for Madoka, which Madoka may or may not return, which still counts as yuri for me.
I would never have thought that I was a purity fag, but in this case I want to be. I would enjoy their relationship more this way.
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>>2028302
I mean, this was kind of gay

I do remember Madoka having a "she's so cute!" reaction to Moemura when she was first introduced in class

And i've read about further evidence that Madoka has something for girls with glasses in the PSP game
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>>2028308
>I'm talking about the series, not fanservice cashgrab movie.
>denying the very blatantly obvious yuri tones in the show.
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>>2028308
>I would never have thought that I was a purity fag, but in this case I want to be. I would enjoy their relationship more this way.
Good for you, please never bring up your opinions again, anon.
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>>2028308
Sure thing buddy, if that's how you wanna see it, as long as you don't go the ack route of tying to force your interpretation down everyone's throat we can coexist peacefully
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>>2028308
>I'm talking about the series, not fanservice cashgrab movie.

Fuck off troll.

>>2028309
Oh I completely agree. This is why I continue to believe in it. But we do not have clear confirmation. The heavy undertones and implications lead me to believe Madoka is a Homusexual if not a lesbian. It's obvious Homura is in love in only in love with Madoka.
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>>2028311
>Nagisa was totally an important character!
>It so makes sense for Homura and Mami to fight to the death; it wasn't just because it made for a cool action scene!
>The movie is completely necessary to the series as a whole! Didn't you know that Shakespeare wrote a sequel to Romeo and Juliet where they live happily ever after in Verona and Mercutio opens a seaside gift shop!
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>>2028319

Why hello there reddit!
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>>2028308
Romantic love doesn't have to be sexual love. /u/ is just full of porn because it's a red board. We don't actually expect 14 year olds of either gender in a relationship to be doing much more than handholding.
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>>2028319
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>>2028322
>We don't actually expect 14 year olds of either gender in a relationship to be doing much more than handholding.

I would die happy if they kissed, but I don't even really expect that.
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>>2028322
>We don't actually expect 14 year olds of either gender in a relationship to be doing much more than handholding.
It's a good thing you're talking about yourself. I would love to see them try making out or Nagisa feeling up Mami under deceptive intentions.
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>>2028325
Maybe Madoka can walk Homura back to yuri Valhalla gently at the end?
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>>2028322
>/u/
>full of porn
Wot.
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>>2028277
>Sayaka literally craves dick
Christ, she just wanted to hold the guy's hand.
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>>2028331
Sorry, I was just exaggerating for comedic effect.
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>>2028322
>We don't actually expect 14 year olds of either gender in a relationship to be doing much more than handholding.
Speak for yourself.

14 isn't 10 - kids are going through puberty and learning about themselves sexually and romantically. Also, I want to see characters I like together getting it on.
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>>2028327
I WOULD LIKE to see Madoka going down on Homura in canon, but i don't EXPECT it to happen
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>>2028327
I meant from more of a real world perspective. Ideally the new film/show will be full of MamiNagi fanservice. BECAUSE I AM A FAN AND I WISH TO BE PANDERED TO.
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>>2028329
Top tier reference.
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>>2028335
Yeah, but I don't expect to see it in anime.
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I prefer fluff over sexual.
Bu Dum Tsss
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>>2028319
>Didn't you know that Shakespeare wrote a sequel to Romeo and Juliet where they live happily ever after in Verona and Mercutio opens a seaside gift shop!

This is so far from Rebellion I am sure you never watched it
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>>2028345
The point was that Shakespeare did not, after publishing Romeo and Juliet, decide to write a sequel where they through some means bring the main characters back to life to live happily ever after.
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>>2028348
>live happily ever after.
So you are just a retard then.
Because this is pretty much the farthest from "happily ever after" you can get.
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>>2028348
Their loss.
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>>2028365
Maybe Homura isn't super happy, but she chose her own fate, and I think she's much more happy living in a world with Madoka than not.

All other characters are feeling great.
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>>2028371
Homura has fallen into such despair that she has literally gone insane. It's next-generation suffering and the most tragic of endings. There's something wrong with you if you call this a happy ending. It's sad, unsettling, and creepy.
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>>2028371
>homura
>happy
Homura is basically planning to die at Madoka's hand when she can no longer bring herself to stop the return of Madoka's godhood.
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>>2028382
Urobuchi makes it pretty clear in the franchise that being alone is the worst possible fate. This along with the chair thing at the end pretty much confirm she's very much alone at the end of the movie.
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>>2028277
I can see your logic behind the other girls, but Homura? Really? Was Ai Yo not enough for you? Do you seriously think someone with only platonic motivations would spend over a decade trying to save someone and eventually remake the entire universe to be with them? Your level of denial is astonishing.
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>>2028277
Not a troll, you're just a retard, so close enough.
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>>2028200
I've got to say, whole taking her ring off and manipulating her soul gem pretty fucking hot and I'm sad because I know that's a wraith and not canon debut of domme Madoka.
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>>2028308
>I would never have thought that I was a purity fag, but in this case I want to be. I would enjoy their relationship more this way.

I know this anon is baiting, but it annoys me that some people seriously feels this way. I was very happy with the yuri pandering re: relationship building in Rebellion because Homura was obviously in love with her. I hope that my favorite character can have her love returned and for them to work things out because I feel like it would make both of them happy.

Something something anon's don't care about the characters or respect their relationships and thus aren't real fans.
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>>2028309
>And i've read about further evidence that Madoka has something for girls with glasses in the PSP game

The glasses fetish is joked about so much in official materials that I'm willing to consider it canon. There are a bunch of segments in the Mami chapter between Madoka and Moemura that involve Madoka scheming to get Homura alone alone with the in the nurses office so they can spend time together. Because Madoka's young and self-admittedly kind of an dolt, I think she just doesn't recognize what these urges to be with Homura are rather then she doesn't feel them. Fuck, it took 12 years for Homura to finally state it, and she only told it to a space cat incapable of judgement.
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>>2028886
>Fuck, it took 12 years for Homura to finally state it
You forget how much Homura hates herself and how little she values her own existence. Even before that set in, she was rather shy and young for the first few runs of month before she started to get tunnel vision in trying over and over to save Madoka.
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>>2028886
>There are a bunch of segments in the Mami chapter between Madoka and Moemura that involve Madoka scheming to get Homura alone alone with the in the nurses office so they can spend time together.

Which manga is this?
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>>2028932
The PSP game. The retelling of TL 1. If you choose to ignore the Mami events and focus only on the Madoka events, Madoka stalks Moemura so much that you can get a Homura event where she says she's Madoka is almost scaring her.

>>2028925
I'm aware of Homu's Homu hate. Hell, the Ai Yo scene is just as much about her love for Madoka as it is her complete disregard for her own existence. Madoka was a person who gave her what she never had. From TL 1 to now, she could never accept that someone as worthless as her was allowed to live while someone as great as Madoka had to die.
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>>2028932
This part appears in Madoka Portable game for PSP that happens on the route of Mami would be in the starting line before Homura make the contract. Interesting that this route Mami feels very jealous of Homura Madoka because that creates a very strong bond with Homura and may be one factor among others that can take her to turn into a witch.
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>>2028454
So same lessons as eva?
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>>2029068
It warms my heart that if you fuck up and Homura learns the secret of the soul gems, she states she would still contract for Madoka's sake.

>>2029117
It's a pretty age old fear. Hell is literally described as eternal seperation from the light of God, and that's essentially what Homura condemned herself to.
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>>2029181
Mostly because she thinks she doesn't dsereve it.

Even though Madoka probably wants to bathe Homura in her light and use it to illuminate them both as they have raunchy sex in full view of the magical girl valhalla population.
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>>2029217
Oh yes. It is very much a self imposed hell.
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>>2029285
You sound like HomuHater, but lack the vitriol.
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>mfw /u/ has better actual discussion of the series than /a/

But please post some Mami x bebe, that's what I came here for
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>>2029291
>Homura doesn't deserve her.
>Pander

Reminder that Madoka is a corpse lying in the wreckage of Mitakihara post Walpurgisnacht without Homura.
/a/ please gtfo.
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>>2029291
>Interview with Aoi Yuuki
>Q2: Say something to transformed Homura-chan!
>A: No matter what form you take, Homura-chan is Homura-chan. Falling in love with someone is wonderful, so don't call yourself the devil. I love you. (I think that's what Madoka says...!!!)

Get mad. Get really mad. Get really fucking mad.
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>>2029295
Thanks anon! I never cared that much about Mami until rebellion. Seeing her with bebe was so cute, it was a good point that one of the girls made to homu asking why would you judge someone (kyo?) for being a witch in the "past" I genuinely liked homu until that part
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>>2029301
Madoka is in love with Homura. Pure and Simple. The only people who deny that are Sayaka or Mami shippers.
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>>2027726
This could be his containment thread
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>>2029369
He can never be contained. I'd rather he stay contained on /a/ or something, though.
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>>2027726
Stop being such a coward. Are you a slave or a person?
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>>2029291
/v/'s the next one down, friend.
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>>2029439
>There is nothing wrong with saying Madoka doesn't love Homura. Nothing in canon suggests it.

It's very strongly implied that she feels something more than just friendship Homura. All the supplement material refers to there relationship with words like "fated" and "soul mates". Rebellion made it pretty clear Madoka's wish is to spend eternity with Homu.

>That, and if anyone should be alone in the end it's Homura. All we see of Madoka is she's equally kind to everyone. Homura isn't special in that regard and Homura's gone to far

I'd say this is bait, but we had the retarded purity fag above, so maybe your just an idiot.
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>>2029456
Purity-fag here. There's definitely more between Madoka and Homura than just Madoka treating everyone nicely.

She may not feel the same as Homura, but after seeing all that Homura has done, she is certainly sympathetic to Homura, and even calls her her "best friend" during the naked space hug.
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>>2029469
>"best friend"
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>>2029472
If it weren't for Homura being crazythen these events would never happen, millions of magical girls in the future would suffer, and countless victims of the witches would die. Why haven't you praised Homu today?
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>>2029479
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>>2029469
She thanks her for everything she did. Including nearly killing Sayaka and probably actually killing Sayaka a few times.
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>>2029487
I probably would have killed her a few times as well desu
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>>2029485
Is she getting off to it?
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>>2029497
Charlie, please leave.
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>>2029497
I bet you're gonna feel really silly if we ever get a sequel to Rebellion where Madoka and Homura make up and rules the universe together. Also look at this screenshot, it's Madoka pinning Homura down on a bed inside a boat after searching for her.
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>>2029548
No, he's going to be "really fucking angry".
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>>2029564
cute cute CUTE!
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>>2029571
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>>2029571
It is one of my all time favourite MamiNagi pics.
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why not
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>>2029577
The height/age difference only makes it even cuter
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>>2029586
I don't need to convince anyone otherwise, everyone already knows. You're the only person here who doesn't seem to get it.
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>>2029586
>Homura
>antagonist
>not Koobie
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>>2029599
>the heart of the show will ruin the show
I really think you should be watching something else.
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>>2029606
Is this guy for real?
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>>2029599
Your a bigger fucking mororn then I thought. Homumado is still the largest ship in the fandom.
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>>2029586
I know this is b8, but

>Homura
>Antagonist

"Evil" or not, she's the character we follow throughout the entirety of Rebellion, and quite a lot of the series. She's a protagonist.
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>>2029606
I never mentioned romance, but Homura's relationship with Madoka is literally the driving force of the entire franchise.You have to be delusional if you don't think they're going to pick back up on it in whatever comes next.
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>>2029611
After the hetshipping anon in the Kill la Kill thread the other evening I'm wondering if we're attracting a new breed of slightly more subtle trolls.
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>>2029619
Seriously. At the very worst, Madoka is going to friendzone her again.
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>>2029623
She's still the protagonist. An antagonist is someone who opposes the protagonist. You mean to say that she's the villain now.

But how did she fuck everything up? If anything, things are better now than before. Madoka is human again and gets to live a normal life, Sayaka and Nagisa are back from the dead and can live a normal life too. The Law of Cycles does not operate on linear time, it goes into the future and past. Just because Madoka isn't God right now, that doesn't mean the Cycle has been halted.

The only problem here is Homura's mental state, she believes herself to be evil when all she really is right now is selfish, which she has some right to be after everything she's been through. Additionally, Madoka is an incredibly kind and forgiving person, she hasn't got a mean bone in her body. She would never deliberately harm Homura or want her to suffer, she would forgive her and give her as many chances for redemption as she needs.

I'm sure you aren't even going to read this.
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>>2029625
Your a fuckwit. Madoka is the goddess of compassion. She loves Homura even if she is evil. Homura is based off of Lucifer from paradise lost. God loves Lucifer as Madoka loves Homura.

Her fucking voice actres confirmed there in love, and that Madoka thinks Homura shouldnt call herself the devil for falling in love with someone.
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>>2029622
>After the hetshipping anon in the Kill la Kill thread the other evening I'm wondering if we're attracting a new breed of slightly more subtle trolls.
I saw that too.

I'd like to think it's only a few anons trying some new trolling techniques, but who knows?
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>>2029632
I sure hope it's trolls, I don't like to think we share a board with actual retards like that.
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>>2029636
Regardless, why are we even answering this fuck in the first place?
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>>2029638
Because we're starved for any discussion about Madoka I guess. Or we're gullible. Both for me at least.

>>2029640
lol
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>>2029640
What the hell? EVERYONE IS HAPPY!!! Kyoko and Sayaka are messing around, Nagisa and Mami are together and having a blast, Madoka is with her family and overjoyed. The only one whose suffering is BLOODY HOMURA because of all the self loathing and self disgust inside her. Just shut up!
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>>2029640
Betrayal, eh.
>send friend on an endless quest to rescue you which slowly grinds the humanity out of them
>ascend to a higher plane denying them the victory of saving you or the succor of your company
>also request that they attempt to live forever, further separating the two of you
Or maybe Godoka was just trying to give Homura a hint.
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>>2029642
>Random caps
>Excessive punctuation
>Just shut up!

While your points are valid, you should kill yourself if you continue to post like this
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>>2029651
>Homura was just selfish and wanted her personal happy end if having Madoka with her at any cost
I think you really watched Rebellion wrong. Homura's not even with Madoka, she doesn't think she's worthy of her company. She wants to give her her normal every day life back, like she swore she would.

Though I'm hesitant to go the route of anyone 'deserving' someone else's company, there has to be a better alternative than either of them cut off from everyone else as middle school goddesses.
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>>2029640
>What a voice actress says is not canon. Don't even. They pander to the fanbase.

There's a difference between fan pandering and bringing an underlying plot point to the surface. I'm not saying Madoka HAS to love her, but I do think there would be no real catharsis if Homura doesn't have her feelings returned.

>>2029654
>Though I'm hesitant to go the route of anyone 'deserving' someone else's company

Yeah, I feel the same way on that. But I think it's established Madoka wants to be with her and viceversa, but life just has a way of getting in the way of that.

>>2029661
Holy fuck.
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>>2029661
She's a mentally unwell teenager, what she ideally needs is some form of therapy.
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>>2029661
>Implying Urobuchi didn't write Rebellion with the intent of Homura saving Madoka from her fate

>Ending the story with Homura and Madoka being reunited wasn't really the best outcome. After all, the instant Homura encounters her, she'll be guided by the Law of Cycles, and disappear. Would that make her happy? It was also the director, Mr. Shinbo's opinion that the outcome of the TV series, "a human becoming a god" might be too heavy a fate for a girl in middle school to bear. Since that was the case, I decided to try to come up with a way to create a story in which Madoka could escape that outcome. -Rebellion Material Book
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>>2029640
>Are you kidding me? Homura tore Madoka out of godhood against her will and made a highly unstable world full of creepy familiars. She brainwashed everyone and denied them their agency. Look at the concept movie, everyone is suffering because of her and she happily suts back and watches her little swan dance for her. How is that not fucking awful? It's clear as day she doesn't love Madoka, she just has an obsession and wants her to herself. Homura deserves to suffer for all this. Fuck forgiveness, she threw that away when she betrayed Madoka.

I'm not saying Homura doesn't need some mental help, but this is literally Tumblr.
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>>2029674
gb2/a/ homuhater
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>>2029678
This is almost word for word unironic Tumblr HomuHater posting.
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>>2029661
>I don't buy that Homura hates herself bullshit. That was just the witch.
What the fuck am I even reading
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>>2029675
>denied them their agency
>she doesn't love Madoka
>obsession
>Fuck forgivenes

The words you use to describe the concept movie. These all scream assmad Tumblrina.
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>>2029700
Meant for >>2029683
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>>2029706
>Homura tore Madoka out of godhood against her will and made a highly unstable world full of creepy familiars.

This is a fact.

>She brainwashed everyone and denied them their agency.

This is a fact that ignores that agency for the girls results in 100% chance of early death.

>Look at the concept movie, everyone is suffering because of her and she happily suts back and watches her little swan dance for her.

Opinion

The concept trailer sets up as much suffering as it does confirm Madoka and Homura want to be with each ither greatly. Also, why would Madoka not want to learn ballet from Homura? No one is visibly suffering besides Sayaka, and that is her role in this series.

>How is that not fucking awful?

All Im seeing is a sequel bait trailer no more descriptive of events than Rebellion's trailer.

>It's clear as day she doesn't love Madoka, she just has an obsession and wants her to herself.

Sayaka herself says it isn't obsession. Homura actions are very much done out of love and related back to Neitzche's idea of the ubermensch. Actions done out if love are beyond good and evil and she very much cast herself out of god's light to save Madoka from her eternal

>Homura deserves to suffer for all this.

She deserves suffering because she dared save her friends?

>Fuck forgiveness, she threw that away when she betrayed Madoka.

And right there you completely disregard Madoka's character for the sake of your butthurt.
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>>2029732
>Madoka's face when she hears someone say she doesn't love her Homura-chan
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>>2029732
No one is saying thee won't be suffering. It's just kind of a given that Homucifer and Madokami are going to work things out. Fuck, the concept art of them god and the devil together has been out since '14.
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>>2029744
Well, you never got the impression Homura is suffering from Rebellion, so your probably just a retard
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>>2029744
I hope they live happily ever after in a lesbian paradise just to bother you.
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>>2029758
They will.
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So apparently Madowraith explains why wraiths need to exist in WA. I'm hoping when Madoka regains her power and MadoHomu acheive duality, it eliminates these mother fuckers. They just seem cruel.
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Anyone got some good DommeDoka disciplining her sub?
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>>2029764
In production notes comments that they absorb emotions to maintain the balance of the world in ruins.
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>>2029789
What does that even mean?

Man this is some bad/early translation. The most noticable one being Maju translated as demon.
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>>2029764
My copy just arrived today and pretty much this >>2029789. According Madowraith, one day, a huge amount of emotional energy appeared suddenly and that was Homura. To protect the balance, the largest wraith went to take it from her and that's what happened in the previous chapters. But her emotional energy was abnormal (lead in to Ai Yo?) and it's still growing inside the wraith that took it. The copycat wraiths are using Homura's ability to manipulate memories to take the form of people that they know. Since only Homura knows Madoka, no one else sees the wraith as Madoka. To Mami and Kyouko, Homura looks like >>2028200.

So along with her powers, the wraith also took a part of Homura's 'heart.' As a result of this, Homura seems to be losing her feelings towards Madoka and Madowraith wrecks her pretty badly with this.

At the end, Homura confirms with Kyuubey that he doesn't what wish she made to become a magical girl, and she begins to doubt Madoka's existence completely since it's possible that she just altered her own memories.
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>>2029805
>At the end, Homura confirms with Kyuubey that he doesn't what wish she made to become a magical girl, and she begins to doubt Madoka's existence completely since it's possible that she just altered her own memories.
Is this what, canonically, happens between the series and Rebellion? I didn't realize Kirara was canon
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>>2029472
>Homura should really be punished for what she did
You say that like anything anyone can do is worse than what she's doing to herself now or is something that her poor fucked up little head thinks she deserves.
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>>2029807
Some stories told in Kirara are canon (like Wraith Arc, Suzune, Tart and Oriko spinoffs); the rest of them are not
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>>2029805
>So along with her powers, the wraith also took a part of Homura's 'heart.' As a result of this, Homura seems to be losing her feelings towards Madoka and Madowraith wrecks her pretty badly with this.

I knew something along those lines would happen. There was such an emphasis placed upon Homura losing her memories and remebering why she did everything at the end of Rebellion that it didn't make sense that she just "forgot" considerings she's basically Homu the Evangelist at the end of the series. Also, Madowraith is a fucker.
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>>2029822
gonna need a source.
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>>2029845
When somebody says that, nod and smile. It's a contentious issue and the answer is they're well done filler that are never refenced in canon.
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>>2029848
Cont.

If you watched Rebellion "correctly", and
I think most people on this board minus the trolls or occasional idiot have, then anything in Wraith Arc so far seems like it just reinforces the point that Homura is completely broken from riding non-stop on the despair train.
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>>2029370
>Wishing ill on others and not taking responsibility for yourself
Are you even senpai senpai
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>>2029789
This is some SMT-tier acid-trip shit yo
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>>2029993
Homura, please stop. You're loved. Now go away.
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>>2030057
>But the real Homura is just some crazy bitch who got obsessed with the first person who was nice to her.

I know this is basically HomuHater 2.0, but I'm kind of bothered that there are people who seriously believe this. Rebellion definitely left HomuHomu in a bad place, but it's not like Urobuchi was being cynical when he wrote Homura's character in the series.
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>>2030069
Except it's not.
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>>2030069
Isn't cynicism basically the antithesis of the point of the show?
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>>2030079
I'll stop defending it when Shaft gives me a good reason to. As of right now, they haven't given me any reason to believe Madoka and Homura aren't going to reconcile and that Homura isn't going to be vindicated in some fashion.
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>>2029854
When I read the part where the Mami said that the Wraith can attack magical girls in despair in first chapter, I just thought " when Homura appears, will be like throwing a person bleeding tied with bloody meat in the sea hungry sharks." Honestly if I had read manga before seeing Rebellion I would get the same thought, considering the amount of mental wounds and time since the world has been recreated.
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>>2030106
I've seen more than a handful of people complain that the manga is basically "Homura Arc: the Suffering Story" without understanding that this is exactly the intent of Wraith Arc and will be a major focus of any future canon projects,
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>>2030202
So HomuHater and an cynical edgelord with a case of autism. Madoka fucking Kaname.
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>>2030202
>Also concept movie without any doubts shows her as evil. What will you do if sequel comes out?(which i doubt)

The concept movie is just a connections of scenes that might not even be in whatever final project they're made into - and ontop of that, her scenes didn't scream 'evil' at all.
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>>2029805
The world recreated the Madoka seems to have serious flaws as simply the existence of Homura makes the system no longer works right, with the wraith, which in theory would be the balancers of the world, basically turn into a type of cancer. Maybe this world is no more stable than the world recreated the Homura.
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>>2030240
It really looks like they're going hard and fast with the dualistic end.
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>Kissing with eyes open
Does Madoka have to teach her everything?
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>>2028344
Same
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Madogatari Nagoya. According to Kirara Magica, Shinbo says they have a few more stops after this. I wouldn't expect anything new project wise.
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MadowraithHomu begins.
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>>2025229
It would be great if there was a way to buy a doujin without having to wait for a physical copy and scan it myself. I'd be happy to throw some money at the fandom, and more than just a little bit. I'm not too familiar with the scanlation communities, so I'm really not sure how it all works, though.

But seriously, if someone can make this easy for me I'll do something.
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>>2030788
>Ordering and scanning it
That's really the only way you can do it and guarentee what you want ends up online. That doesn't even get into translating. I've put some stuff on Danbooru before in hopes someone would translate, but I haven't had too much luck outside a few pages worth of material. It's really difficult to find someone who can semi-fluently/fluently read Japanese and who are willing to translate anything anime related, even when money is involved.
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>>2030356
>implying Madoka knows how to kiss properly
Maybe it's natural. I'd hate to think she was taught by someone else.
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>>2030240
The events of the Wraith Arc and Rebellion were possibly caused by a large blind spot in the recreation of the world in relation to Homura. When Madoka said he could see all the future, she admits she does not know if Homura will or will not remember her, plausibly she could not know that Homura would inherit all the powers of time loops. In a way this equivalent to saying that Madoka could well calculate the effect the beating of wings of the smallest butterfly in the world, but is unable to predict the effect of the asteroid that helped the extinction of the dinosaurs.

The incubators were not considered a threat, because it was assumed they would need information about the Law of Cycles, but also more concrete evidence in a world where Madoka never existed. The Homura may have given information on the Law of Cycles, but Kyubey said that without proof it is only an interesting story, just to the wraith create concrete evidence such as the use of time stop.

In a way to try to solve only the consequences (witches), but not the causes (Homura and Kyubey) of all condemned the world recreated break.
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>>2030801
Hm, yeah guess I can't be of much help then. It would be nice if there was someone out there who provided that type of service. Oh well.
I also don't want to send doujinshi to my house for personal reasons, so any way to do it completely online would be best for me. Even if I did want to send them to my house, I wouldn't have the will or the way to scan them myself.
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>>2030808
Not to sound like a certain someone, but Madoka kissing anyone but Homu gives me a bad chill. I meant it more as Madoka would have seen her parents kissing or something.

>The Homura may have given information on the Law of Cycles, but Kyubey said that without proof it is only an interesting story, just to the wraith create concrete evidence such as the use of time stop.

I had this same theory. The second I saw Madowraith in the preivious issue, I k ew that's what moved Kyubey from thinking Homura was insane to thinking Homura may not be wrong. He specifically says curiosity is illogical, which would mean he'd have no reason to conduct an experiment for shits and giggles.

I don't know how I feel about Wraith Arc as a story, but I very much appreciate that they're filling and clarifying some important details.
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>>2030816
Pretty much the same on my end. I only get non-h sent to my house due to the nature of my employment.
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relevant
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>>2030830
Man, I can see why Homura is never going to forgive herself for this. Certainly explains all her externalized self hatred.
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>>2030840
What did she do?

I can't read moon.
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>>2030819
>Not to sound like a certain someone, but Madoka kissing anyone but Homu gives me a bad chill.
I understand anon. You're certainly not as bad as him just for that.

I'm totally fine with other in-series crack pairings, but I don't like Madoka with any other girl
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>>2030852
It's not in that panel, but that whole scene is the wraith convincing Homura to give up her soul gem to her. Homura ends up asking the wraith the free her from being a magical girl (kill me) and the wraith takes her ring off her finger. The obvious undertones don't make it any better.
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>>2030869
Ouch.
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>>2030853
Agreed. Those two were made for each other.
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>>2031177
What about it?
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>>2030840
>>2030869
What? Why? That just shows Homura prefers madowraith over Madokami.
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>>2030819
I imagine that the Kyubey must have heard several stories during the many millennia in which contracted magical girls, many who were mistaken (the sun is moved by the carriage of the God of the Sun), exaggerations and lies. And possibly other story about the Lay of Cycle without anything concrete. It could still keep some interest in Homura, because she is a bizarre case of anomaly and massive power, but still consider she insane.
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>>2031221
>Being unfaithful to Madoka in a moment of weakness with a monster because it looks like Madoka
>Not kicking off the Homu death spiral

I saw a piece on Pixiv that I can't seem to find where Madokami is watching and cheering because Homura will be dead soon. Sayaka just gives a great "wtf" look.

>>2031226
He knew she was insane, but he still used her as a catalyst. Kyubey really set himself up to get BTFOd.
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>>2031221
I feel like I ought to point out that we can hardly blame Homura for being so fucked up from a decade of time loops and a universal reset falling on her head. Plus I'm pretty sure Wraiths are supposed to fuck with you anyways.
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>>2031246
Not to mention Madowraith already stole half of soul gem/emotions/whatever. She walked into this at best crippled.
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>>2031260
>cripple
>walking
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>>2031261
Sorry, I confused shows and characters for a second.
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>>2030869
>>2031221
>>2031246
>>2031260

I consider the event this chapter equivalent to when the Kyubey revealed that the temporal loops were increasing the power of Madoka and worsening the situation. The main point of this chapter is that in addition to the Madowraith spread distrust in the memories of Homura also shows how heavy disadvantage is it is in relation to the wraith and how it feels futile to try to fight them. Unlike the world of witches where theoretically she could acquire knowledge, power and devise plans from them, in the world of wraith it is essentially walking in the dark without having any clear alternative how to solve this.

Another factor is that power of wraith is very large and possibly is getting stronger with stolen power, and Homura is only alive because it is in the interest of wraith break she mentally to absorb the rest of her power. Not to mention that the Wraith are smart and can plan and use tricks.

The third factor is the betrayal of the world, explaining best she tries to follow the ideal Madoka to protect from the world even if she does not like him much, only that the world does not accept an anomaly as she and try to fix it. And even when she recovered her power, nothing prevents the wraith try again, similar to incubators that when a body is destroyed does not affect the whole.

In short Homura is mentally broken, she believes that she is insane and who created everything in her head, and is in a situation that is seemingly unwinnable. Essentially giving the soul gem is a form of surrender and acceptance that she lost.
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>>2031265
It is the journey from E12 to Rebellion, so I guess we knew it was going to be terrible for her. I do like that they're addressing she is an anomoly though.

May she find peace in the next project.
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>>2031241
>I saw a piece on Pixiv that I can't seem to find where Madokami is watching and cheering because Homura will be dead soon. Sayaka just gives a great "wtf" look.
Oh man, I'd love to see that if you could find it
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>>2031265
I forgot to say thank you for this summary. The pictures being posted where driving me crazy.
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>Homura is the pitcher
>Not the catcher

I'm still glad that this exists.
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>fluff
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>>2031512
Sayaka needs to learn to shave.
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>>2031271
Would they be?
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>>2031271
I do not know if Madoka is angry with Homura because that is relating Madowraith or is jealous with Madowraith that is with Homura.
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>>2031710
I think Madoka is pissed there. She's got the "hiding a mountain of anger behind a cheerful face" look. The clenched fist and Sayaka being concerned only adds to this.
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>>2031734
Oh look it's homurhater again.

Also once you fall into the sort of depression and mental fuckery that Homura has fallen into, ti's pretty fucking hard to drag yourself out without help. Homura has it worse because the events leading to her issues not only happened in a completely different timeline, but what is basically an entirely different universe, and her closest relation is a deity that doesn't exist in a manner that a civ as powerful as the Incubators can even detect without extreme measures.
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>>2031737
10 years worth of groundhog day loops of a single month, watching everyone she cares about die or turn into a witch, only to fail at the one thing promised to do from the get go as the person she did absolutely everything for turned into a god.

That's some serious mental fucking trauma. Especially for a teenage girl.
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>>2031737
>Fuck Homura.
Would if I could anon.
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>>2031710
"But Madoka you did not anticipate that sends Homura in the world where the very balance of forces are actively trying to break she to devour her soul and who are willing to do everything and have all the world's time ?"
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>>2031367
Homu and baseball go together pretty well.
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>>2031246
Although to be honest in the case of Sayaka, and perhaps in the general case of magical girls, the Wraith just use the soul drain when the person is already in desperation to other causes, ie they are more opportunistic like witches. And surprisingly the doll-wraith that mimicked the parents of Mami were kind, because not tried to accuse her of being a selfish by only save her life itself and not the parents, an issue that was very important in The Different Story, and they do not yet they created copy of the Kyouko family to make her suffer. Perhaps the initial doll-wraith were more tests or preparations Madowraith. On second thought maybe they are acting as similar incubators in the world of witches in which is interesting to absorb souls, but if it is too much effort for little gain, they simply leave, but if one has the potential massive they do everything to get him.
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>>2031736
>Oh look it's homurhater again.

You recognized that a troll was posting and then seriously replied to them?

Why?
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>>2031275
It's my pleasure

I am very curious about the next chapter.
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Stupid question, but where can I read the Wraith Arc in English? Also raw scans of the latest chapter?
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>>2031810
Chapter 6 Chinese RAWs: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4482244927
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>>2031753
I'm pretty sure, based on Hanokage's other works, this will be 12 chapters in total. I'm always really excited to see what will happen next. It looks like Kyouko and Mami are going to be useful in the next act!

On a general note, if Madoka foresaw the events of Wraith Arc, she is a canon sadist. I guess that'd be fine because Homu is into that. I was thinking about it earlier and going back to Sayaka's death and conversation with Madoka where she states that things had to happen that way so that Sayaka's wish could come true, it makes me wonder how much of post-Rebellion is "known" by Madoka and how much is not. Knowing that Homura's wish was never granted, would Madoka have knowingly sent her on an all expenses paid suffering tour for the sake her becoming the devil?
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What's that shit coming out of Homu's mouth?
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>>2031842
I'm sure it's chinese.
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>>2031845
Savage.
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>>2031842
Probably part of her mind being eaten.
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>>2031831
Since she could not predict whether Homura will retain memory or not, I think she did not know, especially if you consider that in Rebellion Homura had a chance to die Permanently. In the case of Sayaka she is a normal girl magic and the world was not distorted by the anomaly of Homura, meaning that Madoka could predict and manipulate the events perfectly. Perhaps the ability to foresee the future that Madoka has been restricted because Homura had not entered the world recreated yet. When she entered the world, Madoka could have seen events Wraith Arc, but unable to do anything and would have a big blind spot during and after the events of the Rebellion.
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>>2032076
The goddess really is pitiful.

I do like that angel falling from heaven imagery there.
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>>2031831
see >>2030812
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>>2031831
Nah, I doubt Madoka knew. Homu's an anomaly after all, so her fate probably exists outside causality, which means it can't be predicted.
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New Rikugo in honor of the latest issue. The fan base is never going to let Homu live this one down. I love it.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2333516?tags=parent%3A2333516
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>>2032833

A wild MadoWraith appears!

Fight
Flee
Take home
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In the newest chapter of the Wraith Arc, does Homura know that this Madoka is a wraith or not? Is she aware that it is a warith but is so desperate for Madoka's attention that she keeps it around?
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>>2032959
She can tell at first glance, but MadoWraith also tells her she's one.
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>>2032959
There are 2 or 3 summaries and a link Chinese scansin this thread alone.
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>>2032959
Yes and yes.
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>>2032959
>Is she aware that it is a warith but is so desperate for Madoka's attention that she keeps it around?

It's so sad it's almost funny, really.

>Can't have Madoka, going kind of crazy
>Wraith takes her form to fuck with Homura
>Homura is already so far gone she keeps the thing around because it's the closest she's gotten to Madoka post-anime ending.
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Let's not take the bait this time, friends.
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Am I to assume that this is how Homura sees Madoka?
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Is that a pipe bomb are are you just happy to see me?
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>>2033355
>Non-goddess Madoka with her hair down
The cutest! I wish we had more of it.

I do think that's the wraith though, right?
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>>2033434
Yep. That is Madowraith.
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>>2033438
Madowraith a cute!

Madoka could take some style tips from that accursed monster!
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>>2033443
It's exploiting Homu's cute, dumb girl fetish.
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>>2033449
>Finds wraith
>Looks fuckable
>Takes it to bedroom
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>>2033450
We even get canon soul gem kissing.
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>>2033449
>It's exploiting Homu's cute, dumb girl fetish.
So it's exploiting her Madoka fetish entirely.

Homu really has it hard, though.
>Can't be with the one she loves
>A literal monster takes the form of said girl
>Can't fight her own attraction to it
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>>2033453
1/2
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>>2033454
2/2

Dat Homu half-smile.
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>>2033452
I'm not so sure what's going on in this panel.

>Soul Jem kissu by wraith
>She changes form
>Madokami is affected somehow?

Why does actual Madoka seem to show up in those last to panels? What's with the mark on her chest? Or is that the wraith assuming her form again?
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>>2033459
The wraith only appears as Madoka to Homura because she's the only one who knows what Madoka looks like. The corrupted Madokami is how it looks to Kyoko and Mami. The soul gem kissu is the wraith taking the remainder of Homura's soul gem.

I believe the symbol is the same one on the devil symbol. The wraith was going on about how Homura had great power and threw the universe off balance by existing. By absorbing Homura emotions, it looks like it was able to steal her ai yo.
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>>2029805
>>2030240
>>2030812
>>2031265
>>2032076

These anons give a way better summary than I can.
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>>2033513
>Implying Madoka isn't getting off to watching Homura get it on with the Wraith
>Implying Madoka doesn't wish she could be as forward as Madowraith-chan
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This wraith arc business is starting to make me dislike Homura when she used to be my favorite.
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>>2033551
Another anon already stated why>>2033513
I could let what she did in Rebellion slip because I can truly understand why she'd do that, but what she's doing in Wraith arc is beyond comprehension and it's honestly bothering me more than I'd like to admit.
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>>2033550
How so? All it seems to be showing is she's in a real shit position post-series. I don't know why a semi-canon manga that has yet to conclude would make you hate your favorite character.
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>>2033554
Honestly I'd prefer not to take this spinoff shit as canon. Homura is really precious to me and I feel bad having to feel this way about her.
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>>2033556
You realize she didn't fuck the wraith and she knows it's a wraith, right? You're agreeing with HomuHater.
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>>2033562
Admittedly I haven't seen a translation yet and I'm just going off what I've seen of it so far. I also haven't been following this thread either.
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>>2033571
You should probably read the thread then or wait for a translation. Homura's is well aware it's a wraith. The Wraith isn't even pretending to be Madoka. It gave her a clear reason as to why everything was happening and there's also a significant problem with Homura's memory due to her half of her soul gem being stolen. She's not at 100% emotionally or physically and the universe as it is is literally trying to kill her.
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After learning about http://walpurgischan.net/meduka/res/10295.html#q10295 I definitely don't consider the Wraith Arc canon. Kazumi is sufficient proof for me that Hiramatsu doesn't understand the core principles of PMMM.
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>>2033582
I'm enjoying it. Interquels are rarely more than bridging plot points together and as such are rarely strong on plot.
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>>2033582
So it's all just Hanokage's "fan"fiction.
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>>2033582
>>2033603
It is being made with Shinbo's and inu curry help. New wraith design were used in concept movie, so it's already canon.
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>>2033609
I don't think that is how canon works.

It probably all comes down to your point of view unless they straight up say somewhere that it is canon, which japan usually doesn't do since they seem to give a lot less of a shit about that stuff than we do.
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>>2033609
And Boba Fett first appeared in the Star Wars Holiday Special. That is not sufficient to make it canon.
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Why the sudden hate for Wraith Arc?
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>>2033603

I have to admit I'm kind of amazed people are so eager to treat it as something more.
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>>2033614
>>2033621
I figure just about any off-shoot is canon so long as it doesn't contradict the established canon.

As far as it seems, the Wraith arc
>doesn't contradict the series or Rebellion
>seems to explain what happened between those two parts of the series

If Shinbo and Inu Curry are both helping with this, and the wraith designs have been carried over, I can't see why it wouldn't be canon.
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>>2033700
It's pretty clear that it will be self-contained. Even if it's canon, nothing in it will matter in the long run. Homu despairs because she forgot Madoka. She forgot her, thus she was alone. We knew that 2 years ago.
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>>2033669
I think chapter 6 is triggering the Western fan base. The story isn't over and the chapter hasn't been translated, yet /meduka/ and a few other boards are freaking out about the images they saw in WA 6.
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>>2033700
Everyone is entitled to their own perspectives and opinions. I'm not looking to spoil anyone's fun or tell anyone how to think. I'm just expressing my position.

I personally feel your attitude towards canon defeats the whole point of canon. To me, the purpose of canon is to keep track of the things that must be upheld as true by future mainline installments (meaning film & TV in this case) for purposes of understanding and analysis. The mere absence of contradiction is not enough, because there is much more to fiction than just a collection of plot events. There are themes, characterization, underlying philosophies and perspectives, world-building, etc. These things represent a greater fraction of the value of a work than just the plot, at least for me. Whereas contradictory events in plots are usually easy to establish in a more-or-less objective manner, it is not so for these other elements. They inevitably go beyond what must objectively be true and into the realm of interpretation. A spin-off that messes up in some of these other areas, if included in canon, would harm the overall story without having to technically contradict any established facts.

So far, for me, the Wraith Arc has harmed the cohesion and fidelity of PMMM's overall narrative in terms of world-building, themes, and characterization. It has done this for the sake of a plot that will, most likely, undo itself to wrap up with no lasting consequences. It is therefore clearly a net loss to include it in canon. If it turns out that in Movie 4/Season 2 some of the events unique to the Wraith Arc are somehow acknowledged as having occurred, then I will accept that as sufficient evidence that Urobuchi has incorporated the Wraith Arc materials into his vision of the overall story. However, without something like that, I cannot accept the Wraith Arc as canon.
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Was it like this when The Different Story came out? I wasn't around for that, but this is really reminding me of that one KyouMami shipper who was so desperate to prove TDS is canon.
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>>2033785
It still comes up from time to time.
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>>2033785
It's like this whenever the issue of canon comes up.
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>>2033789
Pretty much this.

Both >>2033700 and >>2033778 have good points, and no one actually involved in the project ever says something is or is not canon as far as I know, so there is never a clear answer to the argument which usually results in a lot of shitflinging.

The two posts I linked are probably about the most reasonable outlooks to have regarding it and I agree with both in different ways.

If you want to think something is canon, go ahead, but don't insist that it is. On the other hand if what happens in a possibly not-canon thing matches up perfectly with canon, then declaring that it is 100% certainly not canon makes you look like an ass.

It is very worth discussing things like TDS/Wraith Arc under the assumption that they are canon in my opinion though, because treating them like nothing more than fanfiction would get us nowhere. When someone replies to "Is how Kyouko acted here in TDS related to what she said in that one episode?" with "No, because its not canon, fuck off" I feel like something is lost.
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I find it amusing how easily Mami was able to get over the wraiths pretending to be her parents but Homura is clinging to Madowraith.

Homura consistently does everything wrong and Mami's consistently a bit of a Mary Sue.
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>>2033646
It's just trolls trolling trolls. Disregard them.
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>>2033785
And the funny thing is that TDS doesn't even support Kyoumami on a romantic level.
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>>2033453
>>It's exploiting Homu's cute, dumb girl fetish.
>So it's exploiting her Madoka fetish entirely.
Madoka isn't dumb.
The character I most identify with isn't dumb.
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>>2034035
PSP game "confession"

Madoka: Mami-san's going to release a CD... Everything's going great for Sayaka-chan with Kyōsuke-kun, too, and Kyoko-chan is getting along with Sayaka-chan.

Madoka: Everyone is changing in lots of ways... but what's changed for me?

Homura: Do you want to change something?

Madoka: Homura-chan... When did you...?

Homura: Never mind that. So, do you want to change, Madoka?

Madoka: I think maybe it's less like I want to change than like I feel like I have to change.

Madoka: See, there's nothing that I really want to be. Not like Mami-san, Sayaka-chan, or Kyoko-chan.

Madoka: But it's kind of hard just watching that.

Madoka: Because I... became a magical girl with nothing but "I want to be a magical girl"...

Madoka: I guess a girl who can't do anything except being a magical girl is no good.

Madoka: I guess I'm jealous of everyone seeming like they're having so much fun right now.

Madoka: I can't do anything at all besides being a magical girl. I'm a clumsy, slow... useless girl.

Homura: That's not true!

(slap)

Madoka: Kya!

Homura: Madoka, you're a clumsy and slow... and absolutely adorable magical girl! What else do you want?!

Madoka: That... isn't a compliment...

Homura: I... I... you.... over and over... That's why you have to stay you...

Homura: Never change, the way you are now... Have confidence in yourself!!

Homura: You... You're... someone very important and precious to me. Even though you may not remember.

Madoka: Um, Homura-chan. I don't really understand, but I think I kind of get it anyway.

Homura: Thank you... I'm sorry for hitting you even though you don't really understand.

Madoka: No, it's okay. You're just trying to get things across to me.

Madoka: I think it's probably my fault... But can I say just one thing?

Homura: What?

Madoka: ... I did want you to deny that I'm clumsy and slow, a little.

Homura: I'm sorry...

Madoka: I knew it, you really do think that about me.

Homura: Uh, um, well...
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>>2034056
>Madoka: I knew it, you really do think that about me.
See? Not dumb.
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>>2034075
Of course she knew. She's slow, not retarded. She'd notice Homu looking at her when she's doing dumb things thinking that the cold, stoic magical girl was judging her out of disappointment, not realizing it was the one thing keeping Homu alive on the inside.
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>>2034091
The event raises Madoka's self-esteem stat. She told her not to change herself just because she think's she has to.
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>>2034098
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>>2034105
>Homura treats Madoka like a pet she keeps around for her amusement and doesn't care how she feels.

Proof please.
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>>2034110
You are responding to homuhater. All they have is twisted half-logic. Don't both.
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>>2034111
Thanks. I couldn't tell. She hasn't been using degenrate or psychopath lately.
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>>2033909
It is important to take into account the circumstances of Homura and Mami in the world Wraith:
1) The Mami have many happy memories with her Famila, but unlike Homura, she never had to doubt her memories as they are well established in this world as they have photos, tomb of her parents and there are other people who knew them when they were alive . In the case of Homura the only evidence she has that Madoka existed are hair ties and talk a little boy who will forget when you grow up, not exactly the most concrete evidence that it existed, that so Madowraith serves to Homura as evidence that she is not insane, because even though this is a copy at least there is an original. But Madowraith shrewdly perceives and argues that the doll-wraith only need the human mind, do not need something solid and can take shape that are impossible to happen in the real world.
2) The Madowraith arises as important to Kyubey and Homura because it the only way for them to know what exactly is happening and how to possibly solve this situation, giving a reason not to kill her and if they did they would be a dead end . Recalling also that the Wraith are willing to play the long run and that has Madowraith part of the soul of Homura making it easy to understand it and manipulate it In the case of Mami as pointed out in >>2031745
it would be a nice bonus, but not necessary so they are not investing time and resources to break it.
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>>2034137
(Continuation)
3) Mami does not remember or experienced events in the world of witches who contributed to mental fragility of her in this world, as intense competition for seed grief, the paranoia of invasion by other girls, the great difficulty of creating teams, the discovery of that the souls of the girls are separated from bodies, transformation into witches and forced break caused by Kyouko regarding the hunt of familiar and witches that possibly results in TDS events. In a way the Homura was quite shaped by this world, being the only one who remembers it, have to settle for a number of gaps in the memories in the world of wraith especially those where Mami and Kyouko remember, but she did not and do not understand why she have memory control, it ends up turning into doubts about their memories and to assume that her personality has changed, because the personality does not fit at the pre-contract memories.
4) Mami achieved without the problems of the previous world and time to think, in a way to make the peace with both her wish and the death of parents, compared with TDS where for not having saved parents, guilt corrodes her for inside . Unlike Homura who left meat grinder with the mind much exhausted and with an unfulfilled wish and have little time of peace before the Wraith Arc events take place, making it difficult her to recover mentally.

In a way the Mami was the one that won with world changes, her serves as an example that there were improvements in the world of wraiths compared with the witches. Only in the case of Homura, the weight she carried was quite heavy, but in the world of wraiths weight increased so much that crushed her.
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>>2034105
>Homura treats Madoka like a pet
That actually sounds pretty fun (from Madoka's perspective).
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>>2034150
>Implying Homura could handle the responsibility of owning a "pet"
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>>2034165
Homura-chan is a good girl. She can do it.
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>>2034178
Don't be silly. Madoka loves her.
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>>2034183
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>>2034165
I'm doubtful that Homura could handle being a pet herself. Though I do think she's actually love it once she got over her mountain of self hate.
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>>2034202
Don't be such a negative Nancy. I'm sure Madoka would say "I love you" to Homura if given the opportunity.
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>>2034207
I don't know about you, but a relationship with a devil sounds pretty exciting.
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>>2034216
That just shows how much she loves her Madoka.
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>Actual girl-on-girl kiss in recent Sailor Moon Crystal

SHAFT better not disappoint.
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>>2034209
This was all just the most roundabout way to transform Homura into a dominant girlfriend. Now we just wait...
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>>2034249
Isn't love an obsession? Madoka sure is lucky she has someone who loves her that much.
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>>2034035
Madoka is kinda dumb, in a cute way. She says herself that she knows she's not smart.

>identifying with characters
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>>2033614
1. They wanted to animate wraith arc, but they decided to go with manga instead.
2. Shinbo and inu curry are helping, so I'm pretty sure most of important and hard to understand moments like Homura's appearing in new world, Madowraith are their ideas.
Latest chapter is awesome, there were never such original and cool ideas in any hanokage's or other spin-offs. If sequel happens, they will obviously use material from here. Also it can be a reason that they won't announce new project until wraith arc is still going.
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>>2034327
Yeah, it's an endearing dumb. She's not retarded.
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>>2034351
Everything about Madoka is endearing - her cuteness, her dumbness, everything.

Also, despite how shit it was, I'm still glad the PSP game was made. The character interaction stuff was great
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>>2034348
>If sequel happens, they will obviously use material from here.

That sequel was called Rebellion. Using wraith designs =/= using wraith arc plot lines. A multi-million dollar global franchise isn't going to stake a new project on the hope the viewing base read a manga printed in a Japan only magazine that not even the Japanese fanbase seems to read in large numbers.
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>>2034348
I highly doubt it. Hiramatsu drafted the main plot being used for the Wraith Arc way back before Rebellion even existed.
https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Tiro_Finale_Book#Hiramatsu_Masaki
>Interviewer: In the first drama CD, apparently you got a request from Producer Iwagami to base the story on what happened after Part C of Episode 12. Seems to be an orthodox mahou shoujo anime and is like “Puella Magi Homura Magica”.

>Hiramatsu Masaki: I even wrote a rough plot for six episodes, and the story is kind of like “Maju consumed the memory of Homura and became aware of Madoka's existence, and so they tried to go back to the world of the age of witches.” Well, because of various reasons it became what it is now.

Personally, I think Hiramatsu's idea might possibly have worked better than what we got in Rebellion, since it would have avoided some of the issues people complain about like the sudden introduction of the Incubators' suspiciously convenient isolation field technology. However, with Rebellion turning out the way it did, I just don't see any way for this wraith plotline to go anywhere meaningful. Somehow Homura has to end up on that plinth with her bow in her hand and the ribbons on her head before the start of the film, and it has to be in such a way that the wraiths are basically irrelevant in Rebellion. What room does that leave?
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>>2034369
>like the sudden introduction of the Incubators' suspiciously convenient isolation field technology.
People saw this as a problem in Rebellion?

It didn't seem like one.
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>>2034369
>issues people complain about like the sudden introduction of the Incubators' suspiciously convenient isolation field technology.

Do people just not accept that there was an indefinite amount of time between the series and Rebellion? I like how Wraith Arc is "answering" Rebellion questions, but they're questions that didn't necessarily need to be answered for enjoyment of the movie. I was completely okay with Homu despairing due to her lonliness. Now it's because a Wraith shattered her memories. That's cool, but it doesn't really change anything for me.
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>>2034377
I remember that being one of the more common complaints, yes. The idea of mere technology, no matter how advanced, being able to counter Madokami was a real sticking point for some people.
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>>2034383
>You forgot that they didn't announce anything at all and may never do.

Are you literally retarded? They give project updates every two months. They're having another Madogatari event in 2 weeks. Production started roughly 5 months ago. Are you ass mad that they only have the teaser at a paid event?
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>>2034383
>Wraithdoka wants Homura to take back her powers.
>Believing a Wraithdoka
I legitimatly forget how stupid this fanbase is.
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>>2034383
Obviously they had to change that specific point now that Rebellion took things in a different direction. That doesn't change the fact that the core idea came from Hiramatsu before Rebellion existed.

Wraiths being relevant in the sequel was hinted at in Rebellion itself. You're looking at things backwards. It's not that wraiths will be important in the sequel because of the Wraith Arc; they're doing the Wraith Arc because wraiths will be important in the sequel.

Also, you're quite a bit behind on news if you think a continuation has not been announced.
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>>2034401
People are entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts. You're the one being dumb.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-08/madoka-magica-concept-movie-will-be-core-of-new-project/.96224
>Kubota is credited as the producer for the project. He confirms that the project will not end with just the concept movie, but will launch a brand new Puella Magi Madoka Magica project.

>Kubota comments that the concept movie will act as an "extravagant" movie-based image board (preliminary images drawn by staff to capture the intended atmosphere and mood of an anime). It will be the core of the new project, and will act as a trailer for the project.
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>>2034401
>/a/

Get the fuck out, troll.
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>>2034404
The most recent Kirara has Shinbo confirming production is proceeding as planned. Anon is a troll.
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>>2034385
>The idea of mere technology, no matter how advanced, being able to counter Madokami was a real sticking point for some people.

Maybe I interpreted it wrong, but I didn't see it as 'countering' Madokami.

Madoka purposefully split her powers and her memories between Sayaka and Nagisa in the Incubator machine in order to go in stealthy.

On top of that, it was explicitly stated that they didn't actually have a counter to her even if they found out how she was doing things/who she was - only that it might be possible in the future for them to design one.

The Inubator Isolation Field was more or less a glorified petri dish.
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>>2034410
Aren't their wishes granted through Incubator tech? It's not unreasonable to believe Incubator tech can counter it's own creations.
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>>2034411
I think Madoka stepped out of the bounds of being "their own creation" when she literally rewrote the universe through hope.

That said, I think Incubator tech follows that old "any advanced tech is indistinguishable from magic" adage: everything related to the girls is very classically fantasy/magic based despite coming from what could probably be called "technology".
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>>2034410
>>2034411
>>2034413
Just to be clear, I'm not saying it bothered me. I didn't have a problem with it. I was just saying that it seemed like it bothered enough people that, if it could be avoided without really sacrificing anything, that might be a net improvement.
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>>2034417
I get that, but they may as well be complaining about the explanation of thermodynamics in E9 and 11. It's a nitpick, not something that needs to be explained because it's a frivilous detail. The Incubator's created a pocket dimension that defied convential physics through a combo of the isolation field and Homura's labrynth. I'm an huge scififag, so this type of set up really didn't seem out of the ordinary.
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>>2034417
Motherfuckers don't know about Clarke's third law.
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>>2034352
That PSP game was actually alright though. Translation will supposedly be finished soon.

It is the other one, Battle Pentagram, that was shit but full of yuri.
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>>2034455
>Translation will supposedly be finished soon.
Is that true? Maybe I'll try it then.

>BP was shit but full of /u/
Was there no /u/ in the PSP game?
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>>2034457
Still /u/, but not to the level of Battle Pentagram where you could ship any two characters you wanted together.

I don't know how much /u/ it has for sure though, I have only played partial patches. >>2034351 is from Madoka Portable.
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>>2034461
>Ship any two
>Not shipping everyone with everyone and getting the sleep over

It was pretty awful though. The only thing I take from it are the titles given to the official pairings.
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>>2035034
Not enough weird horror art in this fandom. I really like this artist and they did a doujin (SFW as in no sex, I'm pretty sure).
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>>2034516
>The only thing I take from it are the titles given to the official pairings.
Titles?
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>>2035230
Each pairing had three titles, based on their affection for each other, so each girl had three stages of relationship with each other girl.

https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Talk:Madoka_Magica_-_The_Battle_Pentagram#Character_Relationship

There are also comments from the characters upon obtaining those stages under that.
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>>2035295
>Homu to Kyoko
>The Final Trump Card
So the people above in the thread might not be totally off when theorizing that Kyoko might be on Homura's side if there's some kind of mahou shoujo 3 kingdoms war in the new project.

>Person of Fate for Madohomu
I like it
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>>2035326
Go watch the KyouHomu scene. Kyouko straight out says she'll fuck up anyone who messes with Homu. It's more of a question of will Homura accept Kyouko's help. If her familiars represent her subconcious, one could say that she was reaching out to Kyouko in the last scenes of Rebellion, but ultimately rejected Kyouko's friendship. Yes, the Claras made her waste food, but Kyouko didn't seem bothered at all by the fact she was surrounded by fucking familiars the entire time.

The pic attached is from the MadoHomu scene.
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>>2035336
>Go watch the KyouHomu scene
The one where they try to escape the fake Mitakihara?

Kyouko seemed a bit wary of Homu, especially in the beginning. Did I interpret that scene wrong?

>If her familiars represent her subconcious, one could say that she was reaching out to Kyouko in the last scenes of Rebellion, but ultimately rejected Kyouko's friendship.
To be fair, that's what it seemed she was doing with all the girls in that scene - rejecting their friendship.

>but Kyouko didn't seem bothered at all by the fact she was surrounded by fucking familiars the entire time.
That was odd. It was almost like she didn't see them.

>The pic attached is from the MadoHomu scene.
cute cute CUTE!
Madoka kept her clothing the same as in this official art more or less, but I like the purple nightie on Homura better than the black one.
anyone have this pic without the text?
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>>2035342
I think they were referring to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohf0n6ymcso
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>>2035295
>Kyouko being tsundere about Madoka
>Sayaka wanting to do Mami-style called-out attacks
>Sayaka starting to approve of the MadoHomu relationship

It'll never get this way in canon but seeing the girls' opinions of each other get better and better is really cute.
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>>2035372
>>Sayaka starting to approve of the MadoHomu relationship
It's kinda sad that this probably isn't going to happen after Rebellion.
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>>2035342
I was refering to the Battle Pentagram scene. And Kyouko did see them, as she was offering the crows and the clara dolls apples.

>MadoHomu scene
Yeah, I freaking love it.

>>2035383
>It's kinda sad that this probably isn't going to happen after Rebellion.

Tough shit
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>>2035383
Don't worry. Kyouko will make Sayaka come back to her full senses.
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>>2034150
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>>2035383
>>2035467
I wasn't completely sure, but does Sayaka know why Homura did what she did? Or did Homura play up the devil thing so well that Sayaka legit believes Homura is a Sailor Moon/PreCure arc villain?
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>>2035490
>>2034150
>>2034165
>Implying Homura wouldn't be the pet.

Madoka invites Kyoko and Sayaka over to hang out, then cracks the front door open, and orders Homura down on all fours with her butt facing the open doorway. Madoka then orders her to start fingering herself, and she isn’t allowed to stop until she has finished and made herself cum. Madoka sits in front of her, and lets Homura rest her head on her lap while her pet uses both hands to pleasure herself. “You better hurry up.” Madoka teases, while stroking Homura’s long silky hair and listening to her soft moans. “Since the door is cracked open they might just walk in when they get here, you know?”

Madoka bends over Homura’s body enough to reach her ass and starts spanking her to help her along. Even if Homura sometimes complains about getting spanked, Madoka knows her Homura-chan well enough to know it actually gets her excited. “And don’t you dare think about stopping time, or I’ll think of an extra mean punishment for you.” She was thinking about the old ‘remote controlled vibrator in the panties trick’ while Kyoko and Sayaka were over. That was always fun.

When she knows Homura is close. She pulls on her hair to force her to look up at her, and smiles at Homura’s flushed moaning face as her pet reaches her climax.

After calming down for a moment Homura asks if she can pull her pants back up, to which Madoka responds “Of course you can, silly, you’re finished arn’t you?”

Homura is back on her feet and just finished redressing herself as the door opens. Not wanting the other girls to see her flushed face, she quickly runs to the bathroom.

“Um… Is she ok?” Sayaka asks.

“Yup, just feeling a little under the weather, she’ll be fine though.” Madoka laughs, then silently thinks to herself. ‘That was a little closer than I planned, I’d better be more careful about how I plan it out next time.’
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>>2035539
I think she gets it.

She just doesn't agree - I'm sure she sees it as a very selfish act.
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I had a theory a few months ago after seeing the Wraiths in the concept that Madoka was going to be forced to go back because the wraiths would just continue populating due to the return of witches (at least Sayaka and possibly Nagisa) and the resulting imbalance or the continuing self-hatred of Devil Homu would cause them to be drawn to her temporal existence. Wriath arc seems to at least confirm that the existence of HomuHomu caused them to freak out. I wonder if this means they'll target Madoka in the new project. Her having never existed and her obviously surpressed power would make her just as much an anomoly as Homura. 99% theyre going to come to an understanding and love each other, but I think the presence of the wraiths will have force both of them to give up their temporal existences to bring about balance to the universe.
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