Akuma no Riddle

>>1999850
Nice choice of image OP

>>1999881

It only reminded me of the fact that it came from what we thought was going to be an amazing Haruki/Isuke doujin by Minakata that turned out to feature dream hugs only.

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Hello.

>>1999914
You guys really need to let this go.

>>2000036
No. Dreams were crushed, and puppies were killed.

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>>2000017

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Lesbianism is hereditary.

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>>2000036

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So who is following the official english releases?

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>>2000107
You act like they got a het ending.

>>2000107
Maybe if we gather some money and pay Minakata or Yun we can get some official hardcore yuri.

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Reminder that I have not one but two excellent Tokaku/Haru doujinshi just waiting for a wonderful anon to translate them. I can do the rest to get them scanned and edited.

Also, RIddle Only 3 is soon!

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>>2000036
No anon, we're not even talking about real hugs in the physical world.

We talking D R E A M H U G S in the astral plane of the human mind, TWICE. Why couldnt we have at least gotten drunken Isuke stumbling over Haruki, straddling Haruki with her thighs before passing out from the liquor?

>>2000525
You mean you're holding out on scanning them until you get a translator to commit to doing it? That's really counterproductive. Make the scans available and THEN you'll have a better chance of a translator taking an interest in it.

>>2000107
>>2000489
It's pretty clear that they've had off-panel sex at this point.

In fact, I'm sure the reason for the short chapters is because Minakata's really drawing some hardcore sex scenes and keeping them to herself and Kouga.

>>2000555
>In fact, I'm sure the reason for the short chapters is because Minakata's really drawing some hardcore sex scenes and keeping them to herself and Kouga.

That's one hell of a conspiracy

>>2000537
Uuuum...Is the second picture from the official artist? I have never seen it before. Any source?

>>2000557
I actually have wondered the same about the artists before.
I mean if I was an artist i would def draw some more excplicit content for myself, even if I'd never publish it.
I think Minakata keeps it for herself though, not even Kouga

>>2000826
Yes, it is from a doujin made by the official artist.

http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/small_riddle_of_devil_2#1

>>2000488
I love this. So. Much.

>>2000829
I hope she's keeping it until after the official manga's done when she can do what she wants with the franchise.

hey, I can dream, can't I?

>>2000488
Me. They're pretty bad, but better than iHoshiku translations, at least.

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So. This new doujin already looks great. Has it been posted in here yet?

>>2001021
It hasn't been posted because no one has it. All we can do is furiously refresh Aimitsu's Toranoana page and hope.

>>2001051
Click that F5 like you itch your ditch!

>>2001051
Link to her page?

>>2001230
http://www.toranoana.jp/mailorder/cot/author/11/a5a2a5a4a5dfa5c4_01.html

>>2001287
Thanks, onee-sama.

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>>2000489

Annoyed, sulking, pouting, yet passive Isuke is the best thing to come out of this series

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>>2002139

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>>2002139
>Isuke is the best thing to come out of this series
FTFY

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>>2002281

Isuke will never be the dom in this relationship. It's been set in stone since their first meeting

While all the others are nice to have, Haruki/Isuke is the only couple I'm interested in AnR. Too bad it's mostly based on their sex appeal and the official artist's shipping, instead of having any real romantic interactions in the source material.

>>2002304
I would be totally down for a spinoff series that features loosely-connected stories of the couples after Class Black

>>2002304
I still have a hard time imagining Isuke having romantic feelings for Haruki without it seeming out of character. Not my fault she is a total jerk.

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>>2002327
She's a jerk, sure. But she's also perfectly capable of caring about others and showing affection; just look at how she acts with her parents.

>>2002327
I don't have a hard time imaging that. A jerk can still have romantic feelings.

I wish they could have some actual substance though. Hell, even Yuri/Nio has more substance than them. At it stand, this ship is nothing more than spitting distance rule.

>>2002334
Yuri/Nio (at least on Nio's side) is basically canon at this point, my man.

>>2002334
Yuri/Nio have more substance than Isuke and Haruki. That's funny lol.
Yuri/Nio to me feels like a mother and daughter relationship, although I know they are supposed to be more. I just don't like them.
>>2002327
But that's the whole appeal of them. Isuke is a jerk, but it shows how Haruki can make her vulnerable too.
In the anime there wasn't much about them, but in the manga there were more cute moments between them, showing how Isuke can actually have real feelings for someone too.

>>2002424
>basically canon
Nah, it's vague enough to be debated, but definitely is not canon.
>>2002438
Whether you interpret Yuri/Nio as romantic or familial is one thing, the point is that there is substantially deep feelings between them. Tangible enough to make the romantic interpretation plausible. In other words, they have substance.

Haruki/Isuke in comparison are literally just at the start of a friendship. Can they develop something in the future? Sure. But they're not there yet. Any shipping at this point is simply bias wishing (not that I complain) instead of going off a canon evidence.

>>2002438
>Yuri/Nio to me feels like a mother and daughter relationship

Spoken like a true /a/non.

>>2002451
For me, it's hard to see Yuri/Nio as a romance, now that we have this backstory. It makes Yuri feel like a child predator or manipulator. I think she is more like a mother or a onee-chan.

Haruki/Isuke is a canon one because Yun said they are. But they have very little. Unless you see Minakata's doujins as canon.

>>2002454
You are aware that AnR has the same author as Loveless, right?

>>2002454
>it's hard to see Yuri/Nio as romance
I understand age gap and guardian/child relationships can make some feel uncomfortable. I simply want to state that it's not far-fetch to see Nio's feelings in either a familial OR a romantic light. Whether it's healthy or moral or not is irrelevant, because these kinds of stuff do happen in real life and in anime.

>Haruki/Isuke is a canon one because Yun said they are.

You have my attention. Where did he say that?

>>2002481
>he
She, and on Twitter. Check the last thread for details.

>>2002454
The author wrote canon shota romance before, there's nothing weird about her writing loli romance now. Pefophilia is obviously not a concern for her.

>>2002490
>shota
She likes to do a lot of genres. I wonder what she will write next, when AnR finishes.
When do you think it will end? I think maybe 3 or 4 more chapters will make it to where the anime ended.

>>2002327
Haruki/Isuke works because

1. Hot
2. Isuke putting up with someone is already amazing
3. They have a lot in common
4. Author ships them and gave us some fanservices here and there
5. Hot

Anyone here speak moon well? Aimitsu seems to have been ranting about a lot of stuff on Twitter, not sure what's going on there, but he/she also said something that indicates they're considering doing mail order, but I'm not sure what.

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>>2002576
Amen brother!

>>2002490
I'm not talking about pedo. Even though I dislike loli, this is not even the reason why I don't like Yuri/Nio couple.
They are just boring to me.

>>2002714
You literally just said you dislike it because it makes Yuri a predator.

>>2002454
If you remove the yuri from Nio/Yuri's relationship, all it feels like is Yuri grooming a child to be a weapon.

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>>2002490
>loli
>Nio

>>2002812
I'm assuming in regards to how Yuri and Nio's backstory. As in, this 'thing' started from when she was a loli.

>>2002808
This. The relationship isn't meant to be healthy in the first place. I'm not sure why people think it would be totally pure if it were platonic.

Anyway, Nio's worship-level admiration for Yuri doesn't seem like something that fits under the umbrella of affection for a parent.

>>2002718
I literally said I don't like it because I find them plain boring.

>>2002904
Wasn't >>2002454 you?

>>2002907
No. Although that anon is not wrong in my opinion either.
There is no passion between them at all. I can only think that someone would like them because of the age difference or for kinky reasons (like thinking of Yuri dominating a young girl).
But since I'm not into this, I find them boring because there is nothing more to them.

>>2002920
I don't understand why you jumped in to respond to something that was responding to a specific anon, then.

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I like these two, but the mild blood/gore in some of their pictures unsettles me.

>>2003043
Because you quoted my post? Which is this >>2002714

>>2003047
Not the sexiest to see her neck getting sliced on the verge of bleeding to death

>>2003057
I was talking about how your original post (>>2002714) was a response to an argument about whether Yuri/Nio being pedo means Kouga Yun would write it, hence my confusion. You said "I'm not talking about pedo," so anyone reading that would probably assume you were the one who made the original comment in the chain rather than someone new who jumped into the conversation.

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>>2003058

>>2003047
I don't even know what to do with this ship. I don't know how it would work, I can't see Otoya reforming into a better person and I don't want Shiena to suffer. It's enough that she doesn't have an ending.

>>2002920
I dont particularly ship Nio/Yuri very hard because their characters just don't seem to match that well.

So far it's been a very pupil-teacher relationship, and while I sort of like them individually, I just dont feel that much chemistry, especially given how lopsided the power dynamic is.

With the others, there is always some semblance of balance. For example Isuke who is typically bitchy and unpleasant while Haruk is more laid back, but that dynamic completely shifts when it comes to the romantic or physical aspect of the relationship.

Same goes for Chitaru who is normally the cool and reliable one but much less assertive when it comes to romance. Even most of the shipping I've seen of Shiena and Otoya has Shiena has at least somewhat defiant.

Nio would jump into the sewage if Yuri told her to.

>>2003114
>I can't see Otoya reforming into a better person
She can't. It's physically impossible, she's a psychopath

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>>2003117
It's a bit more complex than pupil-teacher

>>2003192
Different anon here but I want Queen Bee Haru to do it.
>Haru on Otoya mindbreak

>>2003238
Haru needs to play Otoya like a fiddle.

Otoya will treat Haru like a real queen, she'll save Haru for last. But after the last enemies have fallen, a bloodied and broken Otoya will walk to Haru to finally savor her prize, only for Haru to reveal her true power level and kick Otoya aside like a piece of trash.

The last moments of the story will just be Otoya's completely bulging and bleeding eyes forever crystallized into a look of utter disbelief and madness.

>>2003211
That page was cringe and confusing as hell.

>>2003238
It's been discussed multiple times in the past, but an alternate AnR where Haru meets and Bees Otoya instead of Tokaku would be really interesting.

>>2003255
Reminder that Haru never "beed" Tokaku and that fact is the entire point of their relationship/the manga

>>2003252
>confusing as hell
What's so confusing? It's not part of the manga. It's just author musings. God forbid they have those things.

>>2003252
>the artist of the manga having differing opinions from yours about characters/relationships is "cringe"
You hold your own opinions pretty highly, huh?

>>2003255
An alternate AnR with actual casualties, hopefully. But honestly, I've grown to like most of the cast that it would be too painful to see them die.

Maybe Hitsugi dying would be fine though

>>2003258
Manga isn't done though, even though it's been following the anime in terms of the major plot points. But some deviation would be nice.

>>2003261
It's probably just the translations.

>>2003258
I'm pretty sure the point is that it doesn't matter if Tokaku was "beed" because in the end she was still happy being with Haru and it gave her something to live for.

>>2003255
>>2003238
>>2003252
Queen Bee isn't magic brainwashing.
It's just maximum charisma.
You can't recruit Otoya no matter how much of a queen bee you are.

In fact, it will probably just make her want to kill you even more, because that's the only way she can express her lust.
Come to think of it, isn't this exactly what happened in the series itself? Otoya did fall for Haru, and it killing her became her obsession

>>2003275
>It's probably just the translations.
Care to elaborate? Because the picture posted in this thread is exactly what the Japanese says.

>>2003279
But it wasn't as extreme. Otoya just kind treated Haru like another victim. If Queen Bee is actually as important and powerful as the story tried (and kind failed) to portray, then it should have driven Otoya into a much more unstable state and who knows if she could have been vulnerable to manipulation.

>>2003277
That would have been a nice way for Tokaku to look at it, actually, but instead they decided to do that utterly stupid thing at the end where she rationalizes that she needs to kill Haru in order to prove that she was really in love with her. Fingers crossed that they handle that ten times better in the ending of the manga.

But, I'm thinking about it more from Haru's point of view. The way I see it, Tokaku's angst over the possibility of having been influenced by queen bee is paltry compared to Haru's over the possibiliy that her whole life long she's been unconsciously causing people to die for her against her will. That's what Yuri tried to make her think in the last couple episodes. It creates a genuinely interesting dynamic where Yuri, who sees everything in context of the "world of darkness" of assassins, can't conceive that love would compel Haru's family members to sacrifice themselves, and Tokaku to protect her, but Haru rejects that. And that makes Tokaku and Haru's relationship extra special.

>>2003294
>"world of darkness" of assassins

So dark that nobody died in the series.

I dont think Tokaku's thinking was wrong. She thought she was controlled, and threatening the life of her supposed master was surely the most straight forward way to prove she was noone's slave.

>>2003192
And yet every now and then I see some fanfics in which Otoya changed into a better person. Why this.

>>2003304
But she wasn't just threatening her life, she decided she actually needed to kill her. Which is an asinine conclusion, since it means you consider your own certainty about your love to be more important than the life of the person in question. She would have killed her, too, if not for the titanium ribs. That was the whole hamfisted point they were making.

>>2003312
Because it's character development. Whether you think it makes sense or not depends entirely on how well the author can sell you that premise.

I like the idea of Otoya getting better but never quite making it all the way. Then something really bad happens and she just becomes completely unhinged.

>>2003304
Not in the present time, but the assassins killed plenty of people in their past. Can't call them saints either.

>>2003316
Yeah, the thing is that I've never seen it writen in a very believable way.

>>2003323
I dont think there are too many well written AnR stories anyway.

1k Luxuries met its miserable demise in the most ironic scenario and a few of the others are cute, or hot, or whatever, but didn't really scratch the itch of a satisfying long story.

>>2003324
I want to write one, but it would definitely be TokaHaru-centric so I feel like people here might be disappointed.

>>2003325
I say go for it. Personally, I have a TokaHaruNio fic that I want to write once the manga is over and I know I won't get jossed.

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Anyone remember where this came from? I forgot

>>2003325
I think the issue with Tokaku and Haru is just that the story is already about them. Other characters have comparatively less canon to go on and tends to trigger people's imagination more.

>>2003331
Volume 4 of the manga.

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>>2003332
Do we have actual raws of that? What other extra pages are there.

Minakata needs to just go all out with Haruki and Isuke already. What's there to lose? She wants it, the fanbase wants it, and Kouga wants it too.

>>2003336
>What other extra pages are there.
None, unfortunately. That color page is about the only thing worth seeing in the volume release.

>>2003346
Damn, I'm happy it's pandering so much to Isuke/Haruki though. It's not even the usual 2cool4u Isuke anymore, she's basically a blushing school girl in love in >>2003331

>>2003324
I liked 1k luxuries in the beggining, but after that things got out of character, and I was really bothered of how Isuke got treated in the end

>>2003280
I think Onee-sama was referring to the first translation of this. That one, iirc, is the correct TL, but there are a couple floating around that were not good TLs

>>2003346
Um, what are you talking about? I remember posting a shitton of extra pages in a previous thread. Sure, they were kinda bad phone-camera quality, but yeah.

seriously, /u/ needs to be archived again...

>>2003609
Same. And there is no excuse for het rape, fuck that shit.

>>2003625
It was also really graphic...

>>2003637
I wonder what leads someone to have the brilliant idea to add a het rape scene in a yuri fanfic. Do they even know what yuri fans like?

Did the author intend to do that bullshit trope in which one of the women gives birth to a man's child and the other woman helps her to raise the baby? Just have them adopt a kid for God's sake.

And besides that, yeah, Isuke was starting to get out of character in that fic. I understand getting mushy when you fall in love, but I can't see Isuke being that mushy. Or if anything it would take a couple of years for her to reach that state.

>>2003618
Those extra pages are all stuff from Koakuma. Not new material.

>>2003654
That's one way of making you hate the antagonists, the author knows exactly what yuri fans like and dislike, which is why she included what is probably the most loathed thing by yurifags to advance the plot

It's funny though, i didn't read it, but 1000 luxuries was pretty popular here when it started, so i remember the author saying that she would not include any het in the fic on the beggining

>>2003609

Understandable. The best part of the story was arguably when it still had some connection to the main series (them being in the hospital) and once it went off on its own, it was more difficult to keep the characters feel familiar.

>>2003625
What het rape, wasnt the vaguely male bad guy changed to a woman after the author asked the readers for feedback?

Wouldnt have bothered me that much even if it was kept as a dude.

>>2003667
I don't care if you are making the antagonist a rapist to make us hate them, it is not something acceptable in a yuri fanfic, bacause it is disgusting as fuck, a turn off and het. There are other bad things villains can do that don't involve heterosexuality, like murdering a puppy.

>>2003671
>>2003671
The woman's goons raped Isuke, it happened on the last chapters.

>>2003667
But it's different trying to make people hate the antagonist by straight up abusing the main character by het gang rape. They could use a different way than this.
Also the whole guys are jerks and rapists idea for male antagonists is just too in my opinion.
I agree with the anon above, also Isuke got too mushy, too quickly.

>>2003671
We are not talking about Haruki's story. There was another arc for Isuke in the end that was het gang rape

>>2003275
So far I didn't see any difference in the plot. Heck I feel the manga is somewhat butchered. What does Kouga Yun even worked on since the anime?

>>2003682
I think the problem is that Minakata is too busy, so she can only afford to make short chapters. So maybe even if Yun had planned bigger scenes, maybe Minakata just doesn't have the time to draw them and we end up getting a butchered version.

>>2003680
>>2003681
I wasn't defending it by the way, just pointing out that it's the easiest (also laziest) way to make a yuri fan hate the antagonist

>How do i make yuri fans hate this character?
>Ah! I know! I'll write him having sex with one of the girls... no, wait! Even better! He will RAPE her! That should do it!

I mean, when a girl sleeps with a guy it makes most yuri fans upset (doesn't matter if it's rape or consensual), just like killing the dog in any movie makes everyone sad

It's extremely effective, so lazy writers will do it

>>2003667
>>2003680
Come on now, rape isn't really het, it is it's own category.

You are supposed to react to the RAPE, not the gender of the rapist.

>>2003874
Where do you think you are? We have two yuri rape threads right now.

>>2003686
What is she even busy about? (Besides real life then it looks like she's just trying to finish this.) Does she have other serializations running?

Time for healing.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=55703405

What happend with the mobile game?

>>2003682
>>2003684
Yea I have no clue about that, was busy for a while and when I came back, the hilarious controversy about the author herself already started full swing

What other long or even semi long running AnR stories are there?

>>2004404
>What other long or even semi long running AnR stories are there?
There seem to be quite a lot of them.
Though they all seem to be in Spanish, so I have no idea what they are or if they are any good.

um, Okay, I'm kinda lost. I don't remember an Isuki gang rape scene... did I just not read that chapter or smth? I remember Banba being abused, but they really didn't show anything like that...

>>2004443

They're not talking the manga, you doofus.

>>2004443
We are talking about a fanfic.

>>2004566
Oh, I see. Gotcha.

You know, if >>2003331 is from Volume 4 of the manga. Then that picture alone, more so than Kouga Yun's Twitter comment, confirms Haruki and Isuke are canon.

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Aimitsu said he's going to make his book from Riddle Only 3 available on Booth.pm. It was only 600 yen at the event and it's chock full of pic related. You ARE going to buy it, right?

>>2005095

Choke full of what, navel licking or Nio/Yuri?

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>>2005116
Well, maybe the former too, but certainly the latter.

>>2005095
I need this.

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I don't know where this picture came from, but damn it's nice. Look at Mahiru and Sumi holding hands.

>>2005263
Yea but Haruki's hand is on Isuke's ass

http://actu.epfl.ch/news/amputee-feels-texture-with-a-bionic-fingertip/

Sumireko will be able to feel Mahiru with her cyborg hands one day.

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>>2005263
Confirmed

>>2005306
Unrequited though.

>>2005306
Nio's exactly the kind of messed up to fall in love-hate with Tokaku because of her own jealousy over how much Tokaku's girlfriend interests Yuri.

>>2005263
It's apparently from a calendar that came with the newest NewType.

>>2005332
I wish the story could have been handled better.

I don't necessarily hate the fact that nobody died, but the series itself is just way too "anime" for a lack of better description. Incredibly based on character designs and familiar personas/tropes carrying each scene, the story and subplots flowed very poorly and ended abruptly at times.

If you look at Minakata's doujins, they are very similar in premise/stories/delivery but they are handled much better. Obviously they have the benefit of being shorter and simplier, and yes I know Kouga Yun is the one who supposedly writes AnR, but it just felt like wasted potential at times. I wonder if it has to do with the magazine. They tried to rein them in too much and the story ended up in an awkward place between appearing to the masses and hardcore edgy.

>>2005344
>If you look at Minakata's doujins, they are very similar in premise/stories/delivery but they are handled much better
Uh, what? How? The doujins have almost no content.

The AnR manga is fairly medicore, but being campy nonsense is part of its overall tone; if it weren't campy nonsense it wouldn't be AnR. I agree that the pacing has tanked since the manga caught up with the anime, though. It's too bad, because I thought the Haruki arc was unironically great.

>>2005344
Yeah, in the end the story was kinda "monster of the week" formula. It would be better if the assassins attacked each other too to eliminate competition, or that they didn't know who the target was from the start.

However, with all these flaws, AnR still holds a very special place in my heart.

>>2005347
My bad, I didnt mean the AnR doujins, I meant the other doujins Minakata has done.

>>2005352
But then it's like you said, Minakata has nothing to do with the writing of AnR so it's kind of irrelevant.

>>2005263
Offscreen Kouko touching Suzu's butt.

>>2005355
Too lewd, had to be cropped.

>>2005347
Also being camp wasnt a big deal. The story just had no meat behind the crazy stares and cool poses.

>>2005350
Monster of the week wasnt even the main issue. They tried too hard to give everyone sad backgrounds, it felt repetitive. The story needed more outright crazies like Otoya and Hitsugi, so that they can make the other characters look more rounded / sympathsizeable in comparison.

>>2005359
I actually liked their backstories, not because it's deep, it's just because it's interesting and I like to know stuff about the characters. And it's better than having only full psychopaths. A better balance between psychos and people with unfortunate lives would be good though.

>>2005360
They could have done the background info in some side stories. The main series was too bogged down with everyone getting their little spotlight of sympathy before the "showdown", which often ended up very nonsensical for a bunch of supposed veterans in the murder business.

That whole pool game with Shouko was just, I dont even know what to say about it. What even was it?

I get what you mean by wanting to know more about the characters though. But a lot of that has to do with again the series being carried so much by the designs and tropes. I loved some of the characters just on looks alone and I wanted to know more about them. But looking at it objectively, the main duo aside, Haruki (and by extension Isuke), Chitaru and maybe Nio were the only ones who had a decent introduction because they actually did something that gave some sense of their personalities. Everyone else just got marched in there and I have no fucking clue what the hell Shinya's hallway introduction thing even was (maybe it was due to bad translation or soemting)

>>2005359
>>2005364
Yeah, I really have to disagree with you. The plot fell flat on its face, but I think the characters were pretty interesting and developed nicely beyond their tropes.

Her name is Suzu, and I'm not sure what you don't understand about her chapter. I didn't like her arc that much, but the point was pretty clear in that she wanted her solution, but she wasn't a bad person so she set herself up with plenty of opportunities to fail so Haru could survive.

>>2005368
Suzu's attempt felt like a Saturday morning cartoon episode.

The point isn't that the extra character info were bad on their own, it was just poorly implemented within the story. I liked the characters, I liked learning more about them, but I didn't want them to repeat that same pattern for most of the characters. It's not an issue that's unique to AnR. This "my turn, your turn" schtick is bottom of the barrel writing.

>>2005371
That's a matter of taste, I suppose; I personally enjoy episodic, character-of-the-week formats but I get why some people don't.

All of AnR felt like a Saturday morning cartoon. That's why I said this series is concentrated camp. But Suzu had a perfectly good reason for doing things the way she did that linked to her character motivations and personality.

>>2005375
>All of AnR felt like a Saturday morning cartoon

Nah, some of them were pretty practical in their approach, regardless of how the plot conveniently swatted them aside. Suzu's FIND THE NEXT CLUE was just too cartoony even for AnR.

I think a better way to handle the monster of the week formula is to weave different points of view and backstories into the story before the next person goes and fails their assassination. They kind did that early on with some Haruki and Suzu scenes, but didn't really go anywhere with them. Chitaru was probably the biggest wasted potential in that aspect. They could have done some interesting stuff with the Angel Trumpet subplot.

It's weird to say this but Isuke was one of the better developed supporting characters, maybe even the best one. She did way more than the others and we got to see her character from a few different perspectives.

>>2005380
>It's weird to say this but Isuke was one of the better developed supporting characters, maybe even the best one.

Not weird at all, I'm in complete agreement. Isuke was well developed and a pretty refreshing character in that she was a completely genuine and unapologetic asshole who actively rejected the "my sad backstory gives me license to whatever I want" card, but she wasn't portrayed in a completely negative light, either.

>>2005380
I thought the play arc was done poorly even in the manga. Too many scenes were skipped involving Hitsugi and Chitaru. They went from a kiss one chapter to a confrontation the next with no in-between. And it was never explained how Chitaru found the poison in the bear. Plus, Chitaru's "death" wasn't even shown.

Am I the only one who was disappointed that Otoya didn't make her comeback in the manga?

>>2005414
No. I was hoping for it, too.

>>2005418
Maybe she'll show up and get schooled by Nio again.

>>2005422
It's unlikely. But you never know what might happen. I hope Yun spices things up and has it end a little differently. Just so it won't be predictable.

>>2005426
I hope we get an extended epilogue that explains what happened with everyone better. Mahiru still staying with Sumireko would make sense.

>>2005414
I was waiting so long for it.
>tfw the only blood Otoya shed was Haru's

>>2005414
I, for one, am really glad that was taken out. It was really silly and Otoya is a dull character.

>>2005441
It could've been handled better in the manga. The manga's more serious than the anime was at any rate.

>>2005444
I don't see how it could be done well, since Otoya is completely unrelated to the Haru vs. Sumireko conflict and there's nothing she could contribute to it besides being a temporary flashy distraction.

>>2005447

Otoya a best. Her presence alone would save the fight against Sumireboreko.

>>2005447
>pseudo evidence of Haru's supposed Queen Bee status
>"Did you use Takechi like you used me!?"

>>2003728
The author wrote an alternate version of that chapter where Isuke was rescued before being raped, and posted that first. She mentioned the original version in an author's note at the end. A bunch of people left reviews saying they wanted to see that version, so she posted it in response. Then she made a poll for readers to vote on which version to use, and the one with the rape won.

>>2005519
The first version was stupid

>>2005519
I can't believe the need for edge caused a bunch of people to want to see a het rape scene. I'm not sure if I can consider those people yuri fans for having such shitty taste.

>>2005577
It had nothing to do with people wanting to see a het rape scene. It was simply the better version of the chapter.

And having a rape scene does not automatically detract from a work's hypothetical "yuri rating",it's all about context.

>>2005584
I think that if you feel the need to add a het rape scene in a yuri story for it to be good writting, then you suck at writting yuri stories. Consider writting another genre.

>>2005588
It wasn't better because of the rape scene.

It's been a along time since I read it, but as I remember, Version B out of nowhere brought in several of the characters from the series and dropped them into the plot as if they were the fucking X-Men. It was pretty silly and didn't really mesh with the tone, and I think the author agreed because she had written it afterwards but published it first.

Now, Version A had an injured Haruki soloing the entire chapter. It was pretty badass.

I apologize if I remembered details incorrectly.

>>2005591
Maybe she should have written version C, in which there is no X-men team work neither rape. It could be Haruki soloing and making it in time to save Isuke. Or the boss woman didn't order her goons to do the thing and hurt Isuke in a different way.

>>2005588
That makes no sense. Don't let your own insecurities distract you from recognizing good writing when you see it.

>>2005668
Look, don't you think that when people look for yuri stories they want lesbians and not het? Isn't it enough that 99% of media is full of heterosexuality and even the stories which were supposed to be free of this shit are infected?

Besides this fic is not as good as many people here say, it had the drama level of a mexican novela. Don't blindly praise it.

>>2005682
What the anon is trying to say is that het/rape isn't always bad, you may not like it but sometimes it can add something to the story

I didn't read the fic, but from what i understand it was done in a bad way, but that is not always the case

>>2005682
I didn't say anything about the quality of the specific story in question. But blind hatred for certain elements that you think don't belong in a genre is idiotic.

Learn to appreciate good writing in general, not just what caters to your fetish.

>>2005691
What I mean is, with so many het in the world (99% of the media) why is it so hard to write a story without any het? You have all this stuff catering to you already, why can't you spare us, lesbians tired of seeing dicks everywhere, a few stories that don't have any of it?

And the story would work perfectly without the rape (gore or Isuke gets saved or whatever), unless the author planed on using it to increase the level of drama even more. Might as well rename the fic to "Isuke la del barrio".

>>2005712
>>2005691
And of course I don't read only yuri stuff, there are other genres I like too, but when the thing is marketed as yuri, I sure as hell hope it won't have any het.

>>2005691
>Learn to appreciate good writing in general, not just what caters to your fetish
People don't stick to their preference or fetish because they've never experienced anything else. Quite the opposite, in fact, They stick to them precisely because their experience through plenty of genres and media has allowed them to know what they enjoy and what they don't.

>>2005691
What about disgusting writing? Being ganged raped by ten men is such a good idea, not only in yuri, but in everything in general...

>>2005714
It's not about the het, it's about the disgusting gang rape.
Especially in characters people like

>>2005591
I liked Version A both because there was no rape, as well as the other characters participating in saving Isuke.
Haruki on her own was impossible to do it. And I just like it when there are side characters in fictions too, not just the main couple

>>2005738
This isn't about what you're allowed to like or dislike, that's not a judgement anyone should pass on someone else. But if the topic is about the quality of writing then it needs to be as objective as possible and not boil down to your own personal prejudices about certain topics.

>>2005760
I like that one better too, but like some people said, it was too Disney.

>>2005768
Not that anon, but are you saying that gang rape can be considered good writing?
Also people do judge a book by their taste too. Writing can't be 100% objective, it also depends on the reader's taste.

That raping scene was disgusting and I hated how they treated Isuke.
Your way of reasoning is kinda stupid. There is not an absolutely "political correct" way to judge a story. Especially when the author crosses some lines

>>2005784
>That raping scene was disgusting and I hated how they treated Isuke.

That's the point, isn't it?

>>2005768
Not to start a philosophical discussion, but I've always found this idea that the quality of art can be judged as objectively as possible rather far-fetched. Or rather, "as objectively as possible" pretty much means "not objective at all" in this context.

Humans are biased at levels they're not even aware exist. There's a reason we needed to come up with the scientific method - relying on stuff like reproductibility, control groups or double blind experiments - to do any kind of reliable research. Until the artistic community starts to do the same work the scientific community did over centuries and comes up with their own equivalent of the scientific method, something that could be used to assess the quality of art, any attempt at or claim of objectivity is meaningless.

>>2005804
This is getting awfully offtopic now

1k Luxuries was the story that started the talk, but the point of contention here is that the inclusion of certain themes and topics should not be the sole decider that determines the quality of writing in general.

Whether the direction a particular story takes makes sense or not is always up for debate and discussion, but that's something that varies from story to story.

Have any pictures of the new raws shown up?

>>2005956
Not yet. I've picked up a bit from 2ch threads.

Yuri and Kaiba know each other, apparently.

The chapter also sounds really heavy in TokaHaru content, as a lot of Japanese fans were practically hyperventilating over it. Tokaku decides to kill Haru, same as in the anime. Haru makes a really scary/angry face at some point.

>>2005956

I just want to see the new cover

>>2006069
Thanks, onee-sama. Hopefully pics show up soon.

The graduation story anthology is up on Booth.

http://katatema-shop.booth.pm/items/214511

Are the latest chapters not on Dynasty?

>>2006069
Ah, Tokaku and her genius logic.

>>2006125
Ok...why are their faces so badly drawn? It looks like the artist has no idea what they're doing

>>2006277
It's an anthology. There are 14 different artists.

And you should know the answer to your question.

>>2006278
Is it 14 full works, or just a page from each of them?

>>2006279
14 full stories. That's what an anthology doujin is.

Hi I'm sorry for the long wait, translator Onee-sama. (It's only the clean)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/37etmfj6f6m587c

I'll be back before April just had a rough time for this issue.

>>2006069
>Tokaku decides to kill Haru, same as in the anime
Disappointing.

>>2006496
Her logic isn't wrong.

>>2006140
It took care of it, it is on now.

Haruki/Isuke is boring as fuck, garden variety generic yuri shipping you can find in every series. Stop writing enormous whiny rants about how your dull pairing is unsupported.

>>2006555

But they are supported.

>>2006555
I agree that the pairing is boring

But why anyone would whine about it not being supported? It's probably the most popular ship in the series

>>2006513
Yes, it is. If Tokaku is really enough of a navel-gazing idiot to think that her own personal perception of the world around is more important than a human life, then she could still just leave her to fend for herself against Nio and see if she ever crawled out of that underground chamber under her own power, since protecting Haru against the assassins was allegedly what the queen bee had compelled her to do.

At no point did anyone say "queen bee might fail a bit here and there, but it absolutely won't allow you to let the person die" or something. If it's possible that despite queen bee, the person under the influence could still choose to allow some harm to befall the queen (like Tokaku might if she were trying to "prove" things in a less extreme manner), then why wouldn't it possible that despite queen bee you might be able to kill the queen? It doesn't prove anything.

>>2006561
This thread itself is like mostly Haruki and Isuke already.

Other pairs get way limited support and fan reception compared to them.

>>2006534
Thanks!

>>2006555
What other pairings you consider similar to Isuke/Haruki? I can't think of any at the top of my head.

>>2006562
I think allowing something dangerous to happen to the queen bee and killing her with your own hands are different things. Still, Tokaku is an idiot. You think Nio was right when she said Tokaku was also from the "rotten sea" world?

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>>1999850
Haven't found any proper spoiler pics yet, but there was this on Twitter.

>>2006989
Damn! Haru looks fierce in that panel.

>>2006389
No worries, onee-sama, I know life happens so there's no rush. I just appreciate having your help. Thank you!

Here's the translated chapter, guys:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6v9wl2xzy21wz3y/%5BAnon_Scans%5D_Akuma_no_Riddle_ch._42.zip

>>2007116
Thank you, onee-sama!

>>2007116
Thanks, Onee-sama! Your work is great, as usual.

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>>2007116
Loli Nio is cute

>>2007262
Talking about loli Nio, I wish someone would draw a group pic with all of them as kids. I've seen a couple of them around, but more would be appreciated.

>>2007116
I really hope Tokaku's reasoning for going after Haru is expanded on in the new chapter. Someone here said that she decides to kill her, like the anime, but it was really confusing in the show, especially when she was arguing with Nio, who was disguised as her.
It should be more clear.

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>>2007262
I love this

>>2007292
Tokaku figured that the only way to prove to herself and to Haru that her love was genuine was to kill Haru. Because if her feelings were being manipulated, she would not be able to kill her.

>>2007295
I see. That's pretty extreme reasoning. Especially since she'd only regret it if she killed Haru, because she'd know she really loves her.

>>2007299
I think that she probably was convinced she wouldn't be able to go through with it.

But either way, it's a lose-lose scenario.

>>2007303
Tokaku is a silly girl. Haru is a little more devious in the manga, though. SHe seems to know more than her anime counterpart did, and was hiding more from Tokaku.
I want to know what she's saying with this look on her face >>2006989

>aimitsu puts his book on booth and it's SOLD OUT when I notice it ~7 hours afterward
Aaaaaaaaarrrrrgh

>>2007295
>Because if her feelings were being manipulated, she would not be able to kill her.
Which is a conclusion unsupported by anything anyone ever said, and doesn't prove anything. At best you could look down at the corpse of your dead love and say "Well, I may not actually know for sure, but at least I tried my hardest!"

>>2007307
>Tokaku is a silly girl
Times fifty.

>>2007374
Are you sure it's sold out? I stalked it from the moment it went up, and there was never an option to purchase it.

Dying for anything of chapter 43.

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>>2007447
Well, that's the thing. Usually items will actually say that they're sold out. Good to know, then, but I wonder what the deal is.

There are a few tweets about it since then but I don't read moon very well.
https://twitter.com/yr_aimt/status/709024567310716932

>>2007558
Same. This is the worst chapter to not have any spoiler pics of, because Japan is collectively losing their shit over it right now. It's apparently fantastic.

>>2007726
Will I sound like a cynical asshole if I say I find that hard to believe? Unless there's some big deviation from the way the anime did it.

>>2007730
>Will I sound like a cynical asshole if I say I find that hard to believe?
Yeah, pretty much.

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>>2008000

>>2007996
>holding hands
>both eating pocky
Wow, that fanservice. Is this an actual scene, or just an illustration?

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>>2008001

>>2008002
It's a two-page spread with all the couples. It's just an illustration rather than anything actually happening in the story, but it apparently comes after Kaiba says "Love changes people," so make of that what you will.

>>2007996
Yoooooo, best couple strikes again

>>2008005
No one else is holding hands.

>>2007999
Shiena is going to turn up in several different garbage bags some day

Shouldn't Isuke with heels be at least the same height as Haruki

>>2008005
Hopefully it'll get a decent scan soon. Until then though *saved*

>>1999850
Just a small detail that has to be fixed in the next OP: we don't have any high quality RAWs, the ones on mediafire are ripped straight from comic walker. Just saying.

>>2007996
What twitter acc posted those spoilers? They might be important in the future.

>>2008023
Haruki needs to be taller to show that she is the alpha.

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>>2008023
>>2008052
Haruki is 167 cm, Isuke is 160 cm + 10 cm from her heels.

>>2008075
Wow, I always forget how short Nio is...

On another topic, I can't imagine what it's like to have a name that is unambiguously of the opposite-gender.

I love unisex names, as well as names that are distinctively feminine/masculine yet still usable by the opposite gender, but "Isuke" is like "Ronaldo" or something, just plain awkward to call a girl.

>>2008108

But unlike Latin based languages, Japanese (and Chinese) names have another layer to it since the characters used to write the names have meanings too. So a name that might be more commonly known as male could still retain a very feminine feel depending on how it's written.

Although I don't think it quite applies to Isuke here. But hey why sweat the little details when you're part of the author's favorite pairing.

>>2008121
Just want to let you know, every name having a meaning is not exclusive to Chinese or Japanese. In fact, it's the same thing for most Eastern and South-East Asian languages. Our kids all have names that literally translates into e.g. "free cloud", "controlling the ocean", "pine tree", etc just like the Jap/Chin. And yes I know Latin-based naming practice usually was first created based on the sound itself rather than meaning.

So as someone who is no stranger to the way Oriental names work, I can tell you it's incomprehensible to name a girl an unambiguously masculine name, even with the written character meaning layer. Isuke really is exactly like how you would call a girl "Ronaldo" or "David" in the West. Unlike, for example, "Hiroki" - a 90% boy name yet still possible to give to a girl.

Finally, not sure why you think I'm complaining about anything. It was a neutral question about what it's like to bear a gender-defying name.

>>2008151
>South East

That's the ghetto of Asia, and I didn't say you were complaining.

>>2008160
>ghetto of Asia
What does that have anything to do with anything? And if you don't think I was complaining, then why told me to "not sweat over" it?

You keep commenting irrelevant stuff for no reason. Learn to have a proper discussion.

>>2007998
Suzu tried. She forgot how to hold hands

>>2008010
;_;
She better stay away from that psycho

>>2008151
>Ronaldo
>David
kek. I thought changing Eisuke to Isuke would make it sound a little more like unisex name, like Kyle or James.

Anyway, has anyone ever wondered what Isuke's actual real name was before Eisuke got her?? They have to reveal it in the manga, although I doubt it...

>>2008000
It seems Sumi and Banba have matching bags. That's gay. Look at those sparkles.

>>2008254
> I thought changing Eisuke to Isuke would make it sound a little more like unisex name
All -suke (-介) are unambiguously male (Aisuke, Daisuke, Kensuke, Tsugusuke, etc.) similar to -rou (-郎) names.

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Go buy it!

https://aimt.booth.pm/items/215247

>>2008281
>only physical copies
Had it not been for the fact they only ship domestic, it'd actually be do-able.

>Isuke and Haruki holding hands
>Tokaku and Haru wrapping arms
>everyone else are kept apart at arms length

It's clear who Minakata likes.

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>>2008335
1. Get a PayPal account
2. Register at http://goodyjapan.sakura.ne.jp
3. Log in and go to Shopping Order
4. Fill in the details of the item on Booth and make order
5. ??????
6. PROFIT!

Goody-japan is one of the more expensive proxy services, but the cheaper ones I know of won't ship R-18 stuff. As you can see the total is 1765 yen, or about $15.50 US, which is not terrible.

>>2008349
Do they do proxy for toranoana and melon book too?

>>2008352
Yes. I've used them for Melonbook orders/pre-orders in the past with no problems, Toranoana is also supported.

If you're looking for a service to start using generally I recommend From Japan. They don't require PayPal and they're considerably cheaper, the only catch is that they don't ship R-18. So basically I use Goody-japan when I have to because it's R-18, and From Japan otherwise.

http://www.fromjapan.co.jp/en/

>>2008362
Not if you buy a large number of doujins. FromJapan charges by number of items, and at 200 yen per item, commission is going to sky rocket (I don't think there's a cap?). Goody charges by percentage of cost. So do some math before you go ahead. There's Tenso for Toranoana but they charge by weight.

>>2008362
FromJapan has a 5% CC/PayPal charge though. It adds up.

>>2008367
>>2008370
You're absolutely right that you should do the math before buying. In my experience, FJ has invariably been cheaper, but I don't mean to come across as saying my experience will fit everyone else's.

>Goody charges by percentage of cost
Their minimum is 700, though, so if you're buying 3 or less items at once from FJ it will be cheaper.

>>2008349
>>2008362
I have only ever used Treasure Japan (https://treasure-japan.com/fees.html). They order books and merch for you from any Japanese website, 18+ included, can do auction for you too. Great packaging, responsive email communication with good English. And from what I remember, has lower service fee than Goody Japan (I compared the price 4 years ago while looking for proxy services, so my memory is a little hazy).

>>2008375
I have a little calculator I use to compare services, I'll see if I can add this one to it (and then maybe throw it up on the web so other people can use it). They're a bit vague about the possible additional fees like for bank transfer.

>all these buyfags
At least some of you better be buying Aimitsu's book.

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>>2008254
>has anyone ever wondered what Isuke's actual real name was before Eisuke got her?

She might not have even had one

I wonder if Chinese spoilers are dead permanently or the person has just been busy.

>>2008395

It's scary to think that in a world connected by the web, the things we often take for granted are sometimes supported and carried on by just one or two people.

Even for a niche genre, it's still pretty crazy how fragile it all is

>>2008395
Or maybe they thought this ch was important and didn't want to spoil it?

>>2008386

She looked like she was at least four or five when her homodad found her, how do you go that long without a name?

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>>2008500
>how do you go that long without a name?
When people don't care about you

>>2008504

Nio was on the street though. Isuke was in a house. A neglected household but family is still family.

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>"I love her."

>>2008618
>she thinks to herself, immediately after (as far as she knows) killing Haru

>>2008620
This is before, when she's in the shower.

>>2008621
Did she say that in the show?

>>2008633
Nope. It's a scene entirely new to the manga. From what I've read nearly everything in this chapter is manga-only content.

>>2008641
Hot damn!

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>>2008641
I like the sound of that.

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>>2008641
they better not have Haru actually die in the manga.
I mean, I'm sure they won't, but still

Just finished the anime, and surprisingly a lot more enjoyable than people make it out to be. brb catching up with the manga....

>>2008641
Now this is exciting! I was hoping for manga original content leading up to the end, but to think that she would deviate this much. It's really cool.

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Spoilers finally out.

>My only queen is Yuri-san
>Chapter 43: Prayer Ground

>>2008847
Link to spoilers?

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>Haru: Look, you left your clothes lying around on the floor! Let's fold them up properly, okay?

>Tokaku: Haru!

>Tokaku: Haru!
>Tokaku: Haru!

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>>2008851
They're from Weibo, which you need an account for and it's a Chinese site. Most of the pages were posted on Tumblr, though.

>Tokaku: Ahhhhh!

>Tokaku: Haru.

>Tokaku: I love you.

>>2008855
No worries, Onee-sama. You posting them here is a godsend. Thank you.
>I love you.
This is a great chapter already.

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>Tokaku: I

>Tokaku: love Haru.

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>Nio: Like me.

>Haru: ...The clan... has nothing to do with it.
>Haru: I don't have the Primer or anything...

>Nio: You're such a pain in the ass.
>Nio: Yes, you do!

>Haru: Really?
>Haru: If you're so insistent
>Haru: Do my powers work on you, too?

>Nio: Goodness, what a joke.
>Nio: My only queen is Yuri-san!

Because I find it interesting, I'll point out that Nio occasionally slips back into her old "rough" speech from when she was a kid when she gets annoyed.

>>2008859
So, if someone is already under the power of a primer, other primers won't work on them? Is it possible for a primer to "steal" the worker bees of another primer?

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>Yuri: Exactly, Haru-san.

>Yuri: To be queen is to live alone.
>Yuri: You mustn't open your heart to anyone.

>Yuri: The only person in the world you take orders from
>Yuri: is yourself...

>>2008860
I'm not sure whether what Nio's saying is based on any actual facts so much as her blind devotion to Yuri.

>Kaiba: I told you, there'll be an unexpected twist at the end!
>Kaiba: Love changes people, you know.

>Yuri: What are you talking about?
>Yuri: You're always so creepy, Kaiba-kun.

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>>2008863
Whoops, forgot the pic.

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>Love changes people.

>>2008863
If she were under the influence of Yuri's primer, she wouldn't be able to tell the difference, I'd imagine. It pretty much makes you blindly devoted.

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And here's the last page. So it looks like my information was slightly off and Tokaku hasn't actually entered the fray yet, but she's made up her mind to do something.

>>2008866
So, if you are blindly devoted to someone or in love with someone, a primer's power won't work on you?

>>2008869
Is Yuri-san a primer? If she is, it makes sense that she is using her powers on Nio, like how Haru is on Tokaku.
You probably can't over ride another primer's hold on someone. But there is no evidence to say you can't i guess.

>>2008870
Yuri is definitely a Primer, since she went through Class Black, talks about being a queen in this chapter, and Nio seems to acknowledge that she was affected by the Primer but doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

ARE YOU READY TO COUNT DOWN?

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>>2008865
A slightly better version off tumblr.

>>2008870
>>2008871
The point of Nio's line is just "lol as if you could influence me when I'm already devoted to Yuri." There's no hidden message about the semantics of how the primer works here, just Nio expressing her total devotion.

>>2008866
At best, she's acknowledging that she doesn't care whether she is or isn't under Yuri's influence.

>>2008870
>like how Haru is on Tokaku
Setting aside the obvious fact that Haru never was a queen bee, they have a completely different situation. Yuri was in no danger whatsoever when she met Nio and presumably hasn't been since, since she's a rich supervillain who lives in a fortified tower and all.

>>2008894
>the obvious fact that Haru never was a queen bee
Whatever you say, Haru.

I agree with you about Nio, though.

>>2008894
Didn't they say that Haru can use her power unknowingly? Otherwise, why would Tokaku even entertain the idea that her feelings aren't genuine?

>>2008897
>Didn't they say that Haru can use her power unknowingly
Yes.

>Otherwise, why would Tokaku even entertain the idea that her feelings aren't genuine?
I mean, you've never heard of a nagging doubt? The whole point of an ability like the primer would be that your "targets," intentional or not, would have no idea their feelings weren't genuine.

>>2008900
I understand that. I guess I was jsut assuming that Tokaku would trust Haru not to intentionally use it on her. But, thinking about it, of course she wouldn't.

>>2008873
>>2008865

What's next for best couple now that they've achieved the status of handholding?

>>2008894
>Setting aside the obvious fact that Haru never was a queen bee
[citation needed]

>>2008941
>still missing the whole point of the narrative
Sup, Chairwoman Yuri.

>>2008948
That's not really the point, though.

>>2008934
Sexy time of course!

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>>2008852
Wow, girl's got it bad.

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>>2008852
>>2008855
>>2008858

>>2008948
The point is whether Tokaku is under the effect of Haru's primer or not. It's possible for Haru to have the primer, but it didn't affect Tokaku.

>>2008979
No but you're still missing the point. The question of whether or not she has it goes back to her history of family members sacrificing themselves for her. Either you look it like the Chairwoman does, where the only explanation for people protecting Haru is because she's a queen bee, or you look at it like Haru does where the only explanation is love.

>>2008986
I believe Haru has the primer, but her family and Tokaku weren't affected by it. Maybe her power is just weak, but it doesn't mean she doesn't have it at all.

>>2009021
This sounds too much like having your cake and eating it too.

>>2008986
Personally, I believe that Tokaku at least was initially drawn to Haru due to the Primer, but none of that changes that it blossomed into a real love.

What kind of scene would you guys like to see in the epilogue if it were different in the manga? Any weddings?

>>2009342
Tokaku and Haru getting married and adopting kids is so obvious I feel it doesn't even need to be shown, but a Team Sexy wedding put on by Isuke's rich dads would be pretty fun. Plus with Haruki marrying into money, her family never has to worry about putting food on the table again.

>>2009342
>>2009349
Guys, gay marriage isn't even legal in Japan.

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>>2009356
When did I say they would get married in Japan?

>>2009342

List of things I like to see

1. Haruki / Isuke sexy time
2. Nio in a dumpster
3. Haru / Tokaku happy
4. Older cast, maybe 6-8 years in the future
5. Otoya doing something edgy

>>2009366
>edgy

icwutudidther

>>2009360
Wouldn't Hawaii be the go-to location for Japanese yuri marriages now?

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>>2009366
>2. Nio in a dumpster

>>2008855
This is so good. Oh my god.

>>2008865
>two best couples share one page
>everyone else crammed into another

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>>2008863
>kun

>>2010272
Don't old people call male youngsters "-kun"? Yuri is older than Kaiba and Mizorogi.

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>>2010272
How come Haru is still so fluffy even when she's angry?

http://www.dlsite.com/eng/work/=/product_id/RE173363.html

>>2010272
That's what she said. カイバくん

I'm not sure if you're pissed about the fact that there's an honorific written in English or the fact that she used it, but if it's the latter, then she's both older than Kaiba and she's in a position above Kaiba, both which would warrant the -kun. If it's the former, then you can just go soak your head, Onee-sama.

I thought someone said the Love Changes People spread was a random thing, but it looks like it's actually part of the chapter now?

>>2011050
It's from the chapter.

>>2011050
Huh? I said that it's an illustration rather than everyone literally being there holding hands, not that it wasn't in the chapter.

>>2011058
You (or whoever) originally made it seem like it's a random piece of art attached at the end or the beginning.

But it looks like it's an actual page within the chapter, accompanied by an existing character's dialogue. That's a completely different thing, especially when it comes to the characters' relationships.

There is basically zero ambiguity about Isuke/Haruki's relationship after this page, as well as Haru and Tokaku although that one was never really a question.

Okay....so I just finished the anime. I liked it, but oh my god I hated the ending to it. Is the manga any better?

>>2012110
The manga hasn't ended, yet. But it's already doing some things differently from the anime as it nears the end. It may fix a lot of the complaints people had.

>>2012115
I hope so. This was actually the first ending that actually gave me a headache. DO you at least understand why?

>>2008865
So how changed is Otoya?

>>2012118
I know the common complaints. Things like how nobody died. I personally am glad everyone lived, but I can see why people might take exception to that.

>>2012118
>This was actually the first ending that actually gave me a headache

What, is this the first anime you've seen or something