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Yagate Kimi ni Naru/Eventually I Will Become Yours

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We have released chapter 9. I would take Rei's shrimp.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/cb5da5g4br8d3pp/%5B4s%5D_Yagate_Kimi_ni_Naru_-_09.zip
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>>1970842
Poor Yuu. Must feel awful not to be able to fall in love. Specially if you actually want to.

In any case, if she doesn't manage to fall in love, I hope at least she'll learn to accept herself as she is.
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Touko really has to work on her Onee-sama routine.
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>>1970842
Mind releasing the raws as well?
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>>1970842
Another amazing chapter from the best ongoing series in existence.

It's as if the years of yuri void and dissapointments were all sacrifices needed to bring forth Nanami and Yuu to us.
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>>1970842
Thanks. This is great.

I love it when Nanami goes from cool upperclassman to spilling spaghetti when she's alone with Koito.
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>>1970842
Anyone has link for chapter 8?
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>Oh a friend
>not your girlfriend
You had one job, Nakatani.

>>1970842
I also would like to see raws.
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>>1970842
Wait, where are chapters 7 and 8?
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>>1971029
Yuu gave me some S vibes in this chapter, just look at how she just keeps teasing Touko while she's spilling all her spaghetti in front of her.

Anyway, I love how the author never shows what Touko is thinking, even when she's alone in Yuu's room, just letting the images speak for themselves. And I also love how the potential Maki/Yuu misunderstanding drama is just shrugged off in 2-3 panels.
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>>1971093
The previous thread here as well as Batoto. Check the archive.
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I can't help but cringe all the way through, Yuu is me, I am Yuu. Dear yuri goddess please let her fall in love.
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Yuu is strongest case of denial.

I love how all the drama is avoided or resolved quickly, yet there is still this anxious feeling if they gonna end up together.
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>>1970842
I wonder what are the other two below this one.
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>>1971125
She has good taste.
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>>1971125
Nice catch, I suppose the other two are either other series that are published on Dengeki, or maybe they're simply not real manga.
>>1971137
Nakatani drew this, too. MC's sister looks a lot like Nanami here, hah.
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>>1971124
>Yuu is strongest case of denial.
She's not in denial at all. She wants to fall in love. She just can't feel it, at least not yet.
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>>1971095
>Yuu gave me some S vibes in this chapter, just look at how she just keeps teasing Touko while she's spilling all her spaghetti in front of her.
It's not that she's S. She just doesn't understand why Touko is so nervous just for being close to her. Yuu herself doesn't feel any of that, so she's curious and surprised by Touko's behavior.
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Are we getting another chapter this month or was chapter 9 already from January
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>>1971186
This chapter released on 27 Jan.
>https://twitter.com/nakataniii/status/692311075820154880
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Is it possible that Yuu is subtly depressed? Because I've been severely depressed since I was 13 and I don't feel many emotions around other people. As a result, I've declined every romantic advance, even from people who were good friends.

Maybe I'm just projecting though.
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>>1970842
as always,thanks for your hard work,anon.
>>1971158
sorry for my ignorance,but what do you mean "S vibes"?
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>>1971208
She has no reason to be depressed though.

Yuu just needs some bit of jealousy or fear of loosing Nanami to unlock her feelings.
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>>1971209
"S" from Sadist. Anon thought Yuu might be a bit of sadist because she teases Touko so much. But it's not like she deliberately wants to tease her. She's just surprised that Touko gets so flustered, because Yuu herself can't feel that way.

In a way, you could say Yuu envies Touko's ability to fall in love. That makes her curious, but also depressed.
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>>1971209
S as in sadistic
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>>1971213
To be fair, I've never had a reason to be depressed either.

You may be right, but she could also just be straight up asexual.
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>>1971223
>asexual
Please, don't start this again.
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>>1971226
Hey, it's a legitimate possibility. Though it seems like this series would be pointless and plotless if she were.
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>>1971199
>27th

You're telling me that we got a scanlated chapter mere days after release?

I feel so mainstream now.
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>>1971227
>Though it seems like this series would be pointless and plotless if she were.
Well, the point could be that she has to come to term with it, instead of forcing herself to fall in love.
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Wait, was Nanami actually hoping that Yuu would touch her boobs here? How can a girl be so cute and lewd at the same time? Yuu please, get your shit together as soon as possible.
On a side note, I noticed that Yuu calls her sister by her first name, isn't that a bit unusual?


>>1971214
I don't think Yuu is depressed, she's just frustrated because she obviously likes Touko a lot - in this chapter she even admits Touko is her most important person, and that is indeed a big step forward - but she doesn't feel the doki dokis or at least, not yet.
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>>1971230
She's frustrated and depressed that she can't bring herself to fall in love.
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>>1971230
>Wait, was Nanami actually hoping that Yuu would touch her boobs here?
She probably wants to Yuu just jump her and take her there on spot.
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>>1971235
Well, one step at a time, right? I was kinda expecting that Nanami would try and steal Yuu's underwear while she was alone in her room.
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>>1971249

She did lay her head on the side of Yuu's bed and blush. Give her another ten minutes alone and she'd be fingering herself while moaning her lover's name into the pillow.
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Spanish ham! You don't cut it like this!
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>>1971232
Maybe she's depressed because she's asexual.
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Is there any particular reason that chapters 7-9 are not on Dynasty?
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>>1971264
I think they wait for Yuri Project's proper release.
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I can't find the download links for 7 & 8 anywhere? Does anyone know where they can be found?
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>>1971282
Read the thread.
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>>1971284

I did. I see the link for 9, but nothing else. Batoto doesn't have download links and I can't find the last thread.
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>>1971291
Look it up in archive.
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>>1971282
7 and 8 are stuck in QC hell for last month. I have been doing the editing but guess I'm not getting it cause it's always wrong.
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>>1971295

I see. Thank you for the answer.
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>>1971291
the scanlation group that released chapter 9 has posted ch 6,7 and 8 on the past thread,literally just lurk moar. unless you want to wait for yuri project release,but I think they're only on chapter 6.
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>>1971310
I tried searching the archive, but can only turn up unrelated threads. I checked the recent new release threads, but saw nothing.
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>>1971314
You seem like a cool guy so I'll spoonfeed you but really, lurk moar. >>1910485
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>>1971314
https://4ch.be/u/thread/1910485
there. was it so hard?
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I hope Nakatani won't mess up the ending. This really is one of the better yuri stories.
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>>1971325
good ending =! happy ending
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>>1970842
What if author for someone appear and break Yuu's heart, then she will learn how to love, or realize her love for senpai. At this rate I don't know their relationship will go anywhere.
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>>1971326
No. I mean I hope she won't write shit ending. It doesn't seems like it but you never know.

Happy ending would be preferred though.
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>>1971327
For Yuu's heart to get broken, she has to fall in love first, which she's unable to.
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>>1971327
Author?

>>1971333
If someone would steal Nanami from her, she could realize she was in love and got her heart broken. But I wish none of this crap in this story.

Doesn't this kinda remind someone of Aoi Hana end? Wasn't the blond girl there also slow with her feelings? It was long time though i read it.

Also I wonder if author plans to finish the story with 2-3 volumes or go as long as she can.
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>>1971327
It's just chapter 9, who knows how many chapters are left? 10? 20? 50? It's too early to say "their relationship won't go anywhere", and the fact that Yuu called Nanami her most important person is already a huge improvement.

>>1971331
I think that Nakatani has got some real writing talent, maybe she belongs to the protected species of Japanese authors who can write a decent ending?
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>>1971335
>Doesn't this kinda remind someone of Aoi Hana end? Wasn't the blond girl there also slow with her feelings?
In Aoi Hana Acchan was obviously in love with Fumi but was in denial. Yuu doesn't seem to be in denial. She wants to fall for Nanami. She just doesn't feel it.
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>>1971335
>if author plans to finish the story with 2-3 volumes or go as long as she can
Probably the latter, we haven't seen Nanami's family circumstances and they'd need a proper build-up. I'd say at least 4-5 volumes.
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>>1971336
>>1971338
As much as I like it I hope she has the story planned and won't go too long adding some unnecessary drama.
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>>1971336
>the fact that Yuu called Nanami her most important person is already a huge improvement.
They're pretty close, yes. But there hasn't been any improvident in the attraction department.
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>>1971338
I think that the author will also pay some attention to the side characters and stuff, so finishing in at least 4-5 volumes is more likely than just 2-3.
>>1971339
She had plenty of chances to add unnecessary drama so far, and she always avoided it. I honestly didn't expect her to solve the "Maki and Yuu are getting along" issue in a couple of panels.
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>>1971341
This give the argument against people that said she would treat anyone as Nanami though.
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>>1971345
So, Yuu herself?
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I don't worry about drama. I'm more worried about how the author is going to awaken Yuu's feelings in a believable way.

At this point I'm not even sure if Yuu would feel any jealousy if Nanami started dating someone else. She would feel lonely, sure. But jealous? I'm not sure.
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>>1971343
> she always avoided it
All the issues are solved fast by just characters talking and not being dicks. It's almost unreal when you always see every issue being dragged for multiple chapters in other series.
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>>1971345
She obviously closer to Nanami than anyone else. But that doesn't mean much if she can't bring herself to feel attracted to her.
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>>1971341
Attraction is something that you either feel or don't feel, when you're starting to feel attracted to someone it usually escalates very quickly.
For now what's getting stronger is their bond, which is already impressive for someone who you have been knowing for one month or so. In my opinion the weird one here is Nanami, who fell head over heels for Yuu so quickly without really knowing much about her.
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>>1971352
>Attraction is something that you either feel or don't feel
>In my opinion the weird one here is Nanami, who fell head over heels for Yuu so quickly

Way to contradict yourself.
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>>1971337
What happened asexual Acchan?
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>>1971352
You can feel attracted to people you weren't before, after some events.

Nanami falling in love so fast seems normal. She wants to jump Yuu too.
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>>1971355
That never made sense because unlike Yuu, Acchan's lust for Fumi was clear. She was just in denial.
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>>1971348
>awaken Yuu's feelings in a believable way.
Her friend's novel will probably feature some sort of love story that will make Yuu realize that people feel love in different ways.
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>>1971354
What I mean is that it happened in such a short time, like literally only a couple of days and she was already head over heels in love with her.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, hence why I said that she was the weird one 'in my opinion', but to me falling in love with someone after creating a strong bond sounds more natural and it's the best basis for a long lasting relationship.
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>chapter 9
What? Dynasty only has up to 6
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>>1971360
I don't think Nanami would feel fulfilled if this is all Yuu can offer. She clearly wants more from a relationship.
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>>1971357
I should probably finish reading it. I stopped coming to 4chan for a while around the time there was that hiatus in AH translations and never actually found at what happened at the end. I think the last thing I remember they were going out, but Fumi thought Acchan wasn't really into her?
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>>1971360

It's not romantic love without physical attraction.

Yuu cares about Nanami a lot, but until she actually wants to hold and kiss her senpai, it's just friendship
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>>1971360
Touko has a clear physical need for Yuu. If Yuu can't feel the same way, I'm not sure their relationship would work. It would always be too one-sided.
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thank you for your hard work! thank you very much!
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>>1971321
>>1971322
Thank you both. I don't know how I missed this thread, but I'm grateful for the help here. Now, back to reading and lurking.
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>>1971375
>>1971380
Yuu isn't necessarily against the physical aspects of their relationship even now, but I think she wants to experience same the tells/symptoms of love that she sees in Namami before they get more physical.
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>>1971421
>Yuu isn't necessarily against the physical aspects of their relationship even now
She's not against it but she doesn't feel the need for them either. In that sense, their relationship is clearly one-sided.
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Putting aside the relationship dynamic briefly

What do you think the Play will be about? A famous Shakespear story like we all know? Something more obscure? Will it be the beginning of their relationship, the climax of a turbulent arc or the peaceful conclusion they both worked hard for?
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>>1971451
Well, it's not confirmed they're going to do the play. Maki and Yuu didn't want to, so the plan was kinda left in the air.
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>>1971451
Maybe it will be an original story? Whatever they do, I really hope it's not Romeo and Juliet because that would be too cliched, like it's the only play Japanese students in a romance manga know about or something.
>>1971483
Maki said he's not completely against it, and Yuu will accept after she learns the real reason why Nanami wants to do the play, that pretty much is obvious.
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>>1971451
Of course it'll be the go-to romantic high school play.

Little Shop of Horrors.
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>>1971451
Touko might want to redo the last play student council did.
Yuu might like the story her friend wrote so much she'd like to make a play out of it.
Maki seems like a best bet for writer though. I think he might volunteer to do it so he can escape being on stage.

>>1971494
>Yuu will accept after she learns the real reason why Nanami wants to do the play
I don't think it will be the case. That arc would reveal Nanami's past so it's a bigger deal than just a push for Yuu to participate in play. She'll probably learn it as the preparations go and we'll see how it'll affect her performance.
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>>1971737
>Yuu might like the story her friend wrote so much she'd like to make a play out of it.

Oh wow, this makes way too much sense. It has to happen now.
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>>1970842
Do you have "no raws posting" policy or something?
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>>1971364
Dynasty is waiting for Yuri Project's releases.
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>>1972404
It's pretty much dead unless someone who can QC and can decide if it can be released appears.
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>>1971042
>Oh a friend
>not your girlfriend
>You had one job, Nakatani.
She doesn't want to fuck up the whole situation for her little sister.
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>>1972418
But Touko wants to get fucked up by yuu.
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>>1972404

Why does DR even care about YP's releases. It's clearly not a matter of quality since I've seen releases done with Chinese scans going up to DR anyway.

Isn't the whole point of YP just that people can come and go? Now it's suddenly the golden standard for releases?
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>>1972431
They like to maintain continuity as well. It usually takes a group officially renouncing a series before they'll take a separate group's release.
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>>1972431
4s translations seems to flow better, but their cleaning is kinda bad.
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>>1970842
That was fast! Thanks for your hard work, 4s.

I suppose you don't have a blog or such. On page 11:
>Touko: I can't concentrate for some reason.
>Touko: Ngh.
I don't see the raw so I can't say for sure; my guess is the subject was omitted. But the first bubble appears to belong to Yuu (else, it would have a pointy end toward the Touko).

>Yuu: You can't concentrate for some reason.
>Touko: Ngh.
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>>1972431
Dynasty doesn't upload releases; it's the groups who upload their works.

>>1972465
4s has said they are more on the speeder side, so take your pick. You can't have it all, sister. Not to mention they released in a few days after the latest Japanese chapter was out.
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>>1972612
Right you are. Thanks for catching my stupid fuckup. Here's a fixed page.
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>>1972621
That was fast, onee-sama.
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>>1970958
>>1971029
You might think I'm a retard of something but when she asked Yuu to hear her heart beating I thought it like Yuu was going to get close to Touko's chest and put her ear close to her instead of literally touching her boob. Part of me tells me Touko wanted the latter.
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>>1972430
But this makes me wonder why her sister teases her about her being a dyke.
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>>1972728
The former makes more sense because she wanted Yuu to "listen" to her heartbeat, but I admit I interpreted it as Touko wanting Yuu to touch her boobs.

>>1972731
It's pretty common for siblings to tease each other all the time, she probably wasn't being 100% serious.
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Do you think this series will ever get lewd? It looks like Nakatani has a few racy pictures on her pixiv, but it's pretty tame.
Touko was definitely thinking about it this chapter.
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>>1973485
I see nothing lewd on her pixiv page
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>>1973485
It's published in Dengeki Daioh, so probably not.
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>>1973485
Doubt it will go lewd. If they even have sex it will probably fade into morning. Still this has already more kissing than her doujins so who knows.
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>>1973485
Unless Yuu somehow develops a sex drive, I doubt you'll get even off-screen sex.
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>>1973485
Nakatani draws some suggestive pics, but she never crosses the lewd line, although she doesn't seem to be afraid of letting the characters express their desire of getting intimate. I'd say that the most lewd we can get is a scene where they're about to go there but get interrupted or something like that.

>>1973590
She kinda likes kissing, right? She might not be the horniest teenager you've ever seen, but she's probably curious about sex like most girls her age.
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>>1973626
>She kinda likes kissing, right?
It's more like she was curious about how it would feel to kiss, since the first time was kind of surprise kiss and all. Still, it's clearly shown her emotional and physical response even while kissing is minimal.

>she's probably curious about sex like most girls her age
I don't think she would do something like that before she can awaken her feelings.
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>>1973627
She clearly said that she didn't dislike kissing in general, that is, aside from being curious about how it feels if you're also romantically invested. That's why Touko was teasing her about being a loose girl.
I agree that she probably wouldn't go further until her feelings become strong, but saying that she doesn't have a sex drive is too far fetched.
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>>1973634
>She clearly said that she didn't dislike kissing in general
But didn't particularly like it either. She was mostly indifferent about it.

>but saying that she doesn't have a sex drive is too far fetched.
I don't think so. Note that it's always Touko taking the initiative. Yuu couldn't care less.
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>>1970842
Where can I read from the beginning?
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>>1973670
Dynasty Reader.
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MC is preety much fooling herself at this point right?
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>>1973676
Yeah, I just found it under a completely different name.
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>>1973677
>MC is preety much fooling herself at this point right?
No, I think she has a pretty good grasp of her feelings.
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>>1973677
I think she's just expecting to be swept away without realizing that she's slowly falling in love.
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>>1973691
I think she's getting closer to Touko, but mostly as a friend. She still doesn't feel any actual romantic desire for her, at all.
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>>1973501
>>1973626
There are a few I would call lewd, this one in particular. I imagine >>1973530 is the nail in that coffin, though.
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>>1973698
She wanted to, she wanted to fall in love with Toukou. Yuu wanted to reciprocate Touko's feeling but she can't.

Emotions is complicated, Nakatani knows it and that's why I absolutely love her works. Her Kancolle doujin about Akagi and Kaga might be my all time favorite.

This Touhou fanart might be the lewdest thing that she have ever drawn.
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>>1973691
This smartly nails it. Funny how people keep persisting on talking about this manga from a "realism" perspective (instead of a fun, entertainment convo, like I saw elsewhere where people were joking about Yuu looking set to being the "Top", while Toukou is an actual "Sub", with her being shy and all), then suddenly expecting lots of grandiose hollywood and anime styled gestures, as some kind of needed proof of romance, when that doesn't really happen in real-life love. Hell, Toukou's and Yuu's current "love journey" here is more interesting than some real-life couple's courtship that I know of. I've met real-life couples whose ritual is like, "I met him/her, found the other okay and good marriage material, and then decide to get hitched." That's it. And people still keep screaming Yuu doesn't feel enough for Toukou. I say she is well on her way.
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>>1974497
Some people can't enjoy a ride, or slow development. They want everything right here and now. That probably has to do with the fact that most romance stories in manga/anime feature two characters who are obviously in love with each other but can't confess for some reason, or one-sided crushes that never lead anywhere, so they feel anxious if no strong emotional responses are shown.

Or maybe it's just a bunch of asexualfags who are projecting themselves too hard on Yuu. It's up to you to decide what's more likely.
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If this wasn't a yuri manga about two lesbians and this was the kicking off point for the story, it would be the most mundane and saddest escapist story of all time.

>You listened to all my problems and you're such a nice guy, Maki-kun, that's why I fell in love with you.
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>>1974937
>if we just ignored all the existing chapters/characters and made a totally new story around a side character's brief flashback, it would be a totally different story

Gee, who would have thought.

But with that said, a girl falling for someone who was there for her and listened to her problems is a lot more believable than most of the bs that happens in romance stories. Not to mention that there are already romance stories about "relationship counsellors" who don't actually have experience in relationships.
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>>1974937
>good guy character in yuri
>"I just want to be a bro and help you get the girl"
As a yurifag, sushi-kun is so fucking relatable.
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Personally I want it to go a little lewder. Maybe in that way Ruu awakens her emotional feelings.
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>>1974497
>Funny how people keep persisting on talking about this manga from a "realism" perspective
Forget about realism. Think how manga and anime portray when someone is in love. It's all about blushing and getting embarrassed. It's about wanting to touch the one they love and do lewd things and so on. Nanami's in love, and it's shown like that.

Yuu, on the other hand, it's shown to be the complete opposite. See how Nanami's always the one taking the initiative and making advances on Yuu, because Yuu just doesn't have any romantic desire for her. And even her response to Nanami's advances is minimal to none. Even from an manga perspective, all her behaviour shows she's not in love. At least not yet.
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>>1975443
>Forget about realism. Think how manga and anime portray when someone is in love. It's all about blushing and getting embarrassed. It's about wanting to touch the one they love and do lewd things and so on. Nanami's in love, and it's shown like that.
For Nanami it might be like that, but what if it's different for Yuu? Considering how many yuri cliches this manga is avoiding, I wouldn't base my judgment on how feelings are usually potrayed in manga and anime.

>all her behaviour shows she's not in love
Actually her behaviour shows that she is in love, from an external point of view (see Maki). It's only through her internal monologue that we know she's not intentionally denying her feelings.
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>>1974974
That's not what he wants, though. The theater scene makes it clear he's self-centered and doesn't care at all about the feelings of the girls he helps, just that their romances are entertaining to him.
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Can someone inform Batoto to change the title of this manga to the official English title "Bloom into You"? It's printed in the tankoubon.

While I really like the old title better, it's a total mistranslation of Yagate kimi ni naru. I was glad that the artist had given an official English translation to confirm that.
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>>1975786
>Eventually, I Will become yours.
Literally just need to get rid of last two letters to fix it. Bloom into you is much better because it retains the tone of the original title.
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>>1975822
It's still not correct as you're assuming the one who says the line is the one in question. Judging from the official English title, Yagate kimi ni naru is more like "Eventually, you will become yourself." So yeah, Bloom into You is really perfect.
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>>1975830
>Eventually, you will become yourself

Oh dang, never thought of it this way. Always assumed the you is referring to a third party than the one being addressed
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>>1975830
Uhh that was a joke man.

But yeah, have to applaud the person that come up with Bloom Into You.
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>>1975841
I have never spoken to Nakatani directly so I don't know how good her English is, but judging from all the Touhou doujins with original English titles from her, I would say she has a surpringly deep grasp of the language and its nuance. The expressions and vocabs she used are more advanced than what most Japanese authors.
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>>1975786
Don't you think the mistranslated title is more appropriate for the "translations" they are hosting?
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>>1975862
What are you implying?

Changing the title makes sense considering it is printed on the book.

Unless the manga got licensed and brought to west, those are the only translation for us. Beggars can't be choosers, standard be damned.
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>>1975786
>>1975822

I am not sure why the title on batoto is "Eventually I Will Become Yours", but there is some basis for this translation. See pic related. The color version of the manga's styled title includes katakana no (ノ) inside the kanji kimi (君). So if you read the whole thing, it becomes yagate kimi no ni naru, or "eventually I/someone/something will become yours".

It is a little strange, and the title should probably be changed to "bloom into you" everywhere in english, similar to attack on titan.
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>>1975993
>I am not sure why the title on batoto is "Eventually I Will Become Yours"
It was the incorrect translation by the first scanlator who did this series. There had been a huge argument over this translation on /u/, as ppl pointed out it's simply not what "Yagate kimi ni naru" means. But nobody, including the translator, could propose an alternative translation that makes sense, so the error persisted. Things would have been much better had the translator used the romaji title instead of stubbornly using the wrong translation.
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>>1976003
>huge argument

You're joking right. It was pretty tame as far as /u/ arguments are concerned. Just people offering alternatives and explaining things.
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>>1976012
>tame
That's why I used argument instead of 'shitstorm'. This is 4chan. And it's a pretty damn long argument too.
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>>1975993
Uhh isn't that just the font style? And the romaji below the title clearly said [yagate-kimi-ni-naru].
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Where is ch9 raws? I can't find at all
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>>1976370
Are you colorblind?

>And the romaji below the title clearly said [yagate-kimi-ni-naru].
What would you expect it to say?
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>>1976494
Better be colorblind than retarded. There's no ノ it's just a stroke of kimi and やがてノ君になる doesn't make sense.
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To be fair Japanese like their double meanings in titles, names and conversations.
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>>1976497
They do it with kanji meaning/pronunciation, just coloring stroke doesn't mean shit.
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>>1976497

Anon please, most cultures have plenty of double meanings in words and proverbs.

It's not an exclusively nip thing, no matter how desperately you want it to be.
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>>1975993
>>1976494
Literally all you have to do is google to see the title is やがて君になる, no fucking ノ
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>>1976496
The one who suggested batoto to change the title here. I think the other anon might or might not be correct in saying it might be a wordplay. No reason to be rude.

As a wordplay, of course the ノ have to be in katakana and is in that position (because the whole point is to hide it within the kanji). It would then be understood to read as 'kimi no ni naru', not 'no kimi ni naru'. I would not be surprised if this word play was indeed intentional, but currently it's only a plausible interpretation.

Anyhow, everybody including that anon agreed that we shoukd use the official "Bloom into you".
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>>1976474
No one released them. And the guy who did scans for yp is missing.
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>>1976505
>It would then be understood to read as 'kimi no ni naru', not 'no kimi ni naru'
How about kimi no yagate ni naru? Going by your logic this one can be right as well and even seems more plausible.
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>>1976519
Kimi no yagate ni naru is rare grammar, and is literally no different from Yagate kimi no ni naru. What is your point? Stop being obtuse.
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>>1976536
>Kimi no yagate ni naru is rare grammar, and is literally no different from Yagate kimi no ni naru
Sup' ihoshiku, I see you still suck at Japanese. You can't justify your mistranslation of the title no matter how much you try.
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Are you guys trying to justify the title mistranslation? For what purpose? Why does it even matter now?

I mean, we already got the official English title and now we only need correct the current title in manga hosting sites right. Why even bother thinking how the mistranslation happened? Mistake happens, just let it go.
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>>1976562
>Are you guys trying to justify the title mistranslation?
How about you read the chain of posts. I'm arguing whatever the colored stroke of 君 has any significant meaning but discussion went nowhere because apparently >>1976536
couldn't detect my sarcasm.
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>>1976572
If it had any significant meaning I don't think we would get 'Bloom into you' as the English title. This is not really a topic worth arguing.
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>>1971360
Yeah, to me it feels like Yuu has made the biggest deal about perceived love standards, and put it on this huge pedestal.

It feels like she loves her a lot already, because she cares so much about wanting to fall into what she perceives as love. The love may not be physical at this point, but that could change in later chapters. I don't know how it could believable manner, however.
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>>1973691
Yeah, this is exactly what I feel. She thinks love is this click on swoop thing, but sometimes it happens quite slowly.
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>>1976642
>I don't know how it could believable manner, however
Sometimes the way you perceive things can change drastically when you learn to look at them from a different perspective. If she starts seeing love in a different light rather than the heart thumping reactions filled with pink bubbles like in her shoujo mango, then she'll start changing too.
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Let's just hope it won't end same way like with her friend in past.
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At least one yuri without a hell of drama :)

Best yuri in the moment.
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The best thing about this is Yuu's blank stare
The role reversal is great too
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>>1976665
Very true! I hope that's what happens.
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>>1976729
>without a hell of drama
Give it time.
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>>1976729
>At least one yuri without a hell of drama :
Just you wait.
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>>1978106
>>1977107
I guess the biggest shitstorm will happen when Saeki finds out that she won't get to be Touko's closest person anymore.
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>>1978213
She already knows after Nanami shit move to give speech to Yuu.
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>>1978257
And she is already in full denial, thinking its just a flight of fancy which is gonna stop in a few weeks when Nanami gets bored off Yuu.
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>>1978257
Yea, I actually really liked that. Saeki knows Touko was bullshitting her, but she also understands that Touko trusts her and relies on her. So she doesn't mind Touko being so attached to Yuu.

Too bad she doesn't know Touko actually wants to bang Yuu.
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>>1978261
>>1978263
I just don't get why she had to be in love with Nanami too. Now she is only there to have her heart broken. In worst case scenario it can even lead to some triangle angst drama.
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>>1978267
It's never explicitly stated she's in love with Touko. Just the same "I'm the closest to her and that's fine" relationship we've seen a million times.

In a normal series, yea, we'd be shipping that shit hardcore. But in a yuri series that featured a confession in the very first chapter and a kiss soon after, I don't think there is a need for such desperation.

Saeki can stay as the jealous best friend that hasn't completely sorted out her feelings yet, there is no need to treat her like a competing lover until she herself decided to cross that line.
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>>1978276
>I'm the closest to her and that's fine"
It's like that childhood friend love who never confesses and her first love gets snatched by someone who just appeared.

I hope she only wants to be friend too though. But there were some series that run out of ideas at one point and just introduce love rivals and drama so they can keep going/
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>>1976729
>>1976729
>:)

>without a hell of drama
now you jinx it
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>>1978267
Are you new to yuri manga?
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>Citrus lite without the pseudo incest
>possibly asexual character
>expecting no drama
Imoutotachi, I don't know how to tell you.
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>>1978276
I think she's in love with her. When she asked Touko why she was going to reject the girl who confessed to her, she asked if it was because she's a girl, while looking pretty upset at the thought that this might have been the reason.
She wants to keep the status quo because she already knows that Touko would reject her if she confessed her feelings, but since she rejects everyone else too and only lets people get close to her up until a certain point, Saeki decided that she would be the one standing at this very point.
She can't even imagine that someone could reach or even surpass her, especially a freshman girl who has been knowing Nanami only for one month or so.

Speaking of which, everyone at school talks about how Nanami rejects everyone who confessed to her, but I can't believe that nobody ever confessed to Saeki. How come this is never addressed?
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>>1978328
>I've only read Citrus
Read more.
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>>1978333
Not really, but this is taking a similar path. I fully expect a good amount of angst.
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>>1978363
This is really anti-citrus at this point. Also Nakatani doujins never had heavy angst and drama, but this is her first longer series so who knows.

I have hope though. This hope got crushed many times in past though.
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>>1978363
Except this is nothing like Citrus, and they have literally nothing in common.
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>>1978328
>asexual

Tumblr please
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>>1978367
Have faith in Nakatani.

I still believe that she would continue Nagi wo Matsu someday.
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>>1978264
Did an extra order of the first volume on Toranoana so I can pray to god that I get it. When I don't, at least I'll be consoled by the little guaranteed extra.
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>>1978416
>Nagi wo Matsu

I'm actually not a fan of Akaga, but I love this little work. Can't see a happy end for this one, though.
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>>1979033
Of course it will.

The Clone Akagi will sacrifice herself and return the Carrier Akagi back to Normal Akagi somehow.

Then in the very last page, we'll get a single panel hinting, but not explicitly stating, that the Current Kaga wasn't the original either.
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>>1978408
Retard please
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>>1980460
Damn, got 'em.
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Got licensed: http://www.gomanga.com/articles/extraextra/seven-seas-celebrates-valentines-day-with-license-of-yuri-series-bloom-into-you/870
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Any chance the "two colored illustrations" will be exclusive or just things we've already seen?
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>>1984637
This is just as planned.

We will continue to release each new chapter a few days after Dengeki Daioh is out in Japan. The licensed volumes will be so far behind that they are effectively on a different timetable.

In return, we expect people in NA to understand that it is in everyone's best interest to buy at least one copy of every licensed volume. I will be doing the same.
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>>1984687

The last time I supported the Amerikkkan mango industry by buying two volumes of HxB, they cancelled the releases without even saying anything.
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>>1984692
The manga changed publishers in japan, they couldn't keep the us rights.
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>>1984692
Yes, I have had a similar experience. But you cannot separate the author and the publisher. The distribution model is a dinosaur but it is that way in Japan also. The importance of this series outweighs the baggage.
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>>1984637
Are you kidding me??!!! I wait so long just for this. Better start to save my wallet now
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>>1984687
Sounds great to me. I get to have a copy on my hard drive & a physical copy to read, & get to read it that much sooner. Glad to hear you're still planning on scanlating.
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>>1984692
>>1984698
I hope it doesnt happen again. times are changing they need to rethink their old model.
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>>1984637
Based fucking Seven Seas. Definitely getting~!
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>>1984637

Bless them. I'll get my copy asap.

Btw when is next chapter out?
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Yuriproject want to drop it because it's licensed.
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>>1985578
Yuriproject haven't even been the first to translate the most recent chapters.
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>>1985578
Yuri Project was never suppose to be about the "One mind, one decision" type of place.

Now it seems they're trying super hard to be and wants to put their stamp on everything.
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>>1985582
The QC there takes a lot of time.
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>>1985590
Not criticising them, I'm just saying they're not the only game in town, and I think the other group already indicated that they won't be dropping it. I may be wrong.
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So can we put the translated chapter 9 on Dynasty now that YP's discontinued it?
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>>1985578
Weird, since they still keep releasing Citrus despite it being licensed.
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>>1985874
The one who translated Bloom Into You wants to drop it. That's a different bunch from the people who do Citrus.
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>>1984687
>>1984687
Hah...I really appreciate your decision not to drop did, anon-san. As much as I'd love to support the author, importing anything from US right now would be a heavy blow to my wallet. As for from Japan itself, maybe in the near future.

Again, thank you, both for continuing this and for supporting the author!
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>>1985878
*not to drop this* Sorry for this stupid mistake...
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>>1985811
Who is we? Ask at Dynasty, they're the one who decide what they upload on their reader.
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>>1985877
But unlike Citrus, this is actually good. What the hell, man.
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>>1971322
>https://4ch.be/u/thread/1910485
This link doesn't work anymore btw. 4s should just make a central folder for their scanlations.
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I thought the entire point of YP was that it was crowdsourcing scanlation? It's not like Gulf is the only J-E tl, is it? They weren't even interested in it originally.
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>>1986102
With no raws or translator I see it being pretty much dead there.
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>>1985901
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/3xg5q53brg7c9/release
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>>1984637
I don't feel happy about Seven Seas. Their Gunslinger Girl releases had rather subpar or bad translation, IMO.

Also I bought Citrus vol 1. In the book, they completely ignore some small text in the omake and just put random sentences in. And for example, this page.

>テストで一日座ってるよりは はるかに楽だよね
Seven Seas: But it's still better... than writing a stupid essay!

The actual meaning should be something like - It's still far better than sitting and taking test all day.

I don't get it.
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>>1986492
I think that's a case of adaptation/localization. Maybe they have more essays than tests.

But their error for Akuma no Riddle is a bit troubling. >>1982710 >>1983309 >>1983893
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>>1986492
Has anyone raised these complaints with them?
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Some merchandise.
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looks like there to many /u/nicorns in this school.
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>>1988275
This would be a nice shirt to wear at church.
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>>1988322
I know right? Though I'm pretty sure my family would be too shocked I didn't get stricken by lightning the second I stepped a foot inside to notice it.
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>>1988275
Anyone seen/found the art from that shirt? Had no luck finding it.
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>>1988285
What the fuck is a /u/nicorn? Someone who can only be touched by a /v/irgin?
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>>1988605
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>>1988567

It's visible on the website that was given. Reverse image search doesn't really reveal much more info though.
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It will be like 5 years from now until it gets enough material for a plausible anime adaptation
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>>1988685
It's a top selling monthly series that will soon reach its one year anniversary next month and it hasn't taken a break.

And for the first time I can remember, we're getting quality scanlations mere days after the raws plus there has been very minimal drama/trolling from the community about this series.

This is like a miracle already.
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>>1988275
Does this store ship internationally?
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>>1988700
Glad to heard yuri manga did so good, hopefully there will be more great yuri work in the future
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>>1988728
Doesn't seem like it, but I'd can vouch for and recommend Tenso as a forwarding service (ie you use their warehouse as your Japanese address, and then they ship it to you internationally for a minor fee).
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>>1988771
Yeah I know how proxies work since I use them for Taobao. Thanks m8.
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It's this time of the month.
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>>1994281
Yes, indeed.
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>>1994281

Are we going to get scans days after the raws again like last time?
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>>1994292
I'm still waiting for raws for chapter 9.
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>>1994292
Who knows, yuriproject dropped it, but maybe that other group still cares.
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>>1994281
And vol 2 will be released on April 27, noice.
>>1994301
They're the only ones left that are still willing to scanlate the series, so chances are that they're even more motivated to keep going.
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>>1994301
That "other group" already said they'll keep translating it just a few posts above yours dude,why don't you read the thread?
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>>1994298
Already translated and link given in the previous post above. Here it is again for those who don't bother to read: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/3xg5q53brg7c9/release
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>>1994778
Raws, anon. There are no public raws.
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When is chapter 10 out?
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>>1995079
Literally 9 post above yours.
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I don't get it... it's out already?
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>>1994281
>38 pages
This will be good.
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>>1995094
The pic posted by Nakatani on her twitter clearly said that the release date for ch 10 in 27 feb, same date with the release of vol 2. Today is 28 feb. So yeah, I think the chapter is out now. Don't know anything about RAW though.
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>>1995106
New chapter will be about Nanami's past. Let's speculate for the last time. What happened with her? Is it really just the dead family member?
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>>1995132
>dead family member
Is that the current consensus?

This is the panel that originate the theory right?
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>>1995159
>Is that the current consensus?
Yes. Me and other anon speculated a bit some threads ago.
>This is the panel that originate the theory right?
It's one of them. Originally, I thought that something was wrong with this page.
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>>1995167
Why family member though? It could be former teacher, graduated senpai, or childhood friends that moved away.

Sorry man, I'm really behind on this discussion.
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>>1995171
>former teacher, graduated senpai, or childhood friends
Basically, family member being dead hits harder. It can't be childhood friend because it has to connect to Student Council 7 years ago. She couldn't stay the way she was which means that she was pressed to change. If some teacher or senpai moved/died I don't think it'd cause it.
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>>1995180
I see. So is there any explanation about what pressed her to change? Like, did it come from herself or someone else told her to.
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>>1995196
Well, if we go into full speculation mode than I think her grandpa >>1995167 (upper left panel) was teacher/director of the high school she goes to now, he made that tradition about Student Council and presumably was really proud of his granddaughter. Shit happened and at the death bed he told Touko to stop hiding behind someone's back and become the best of the best because she has the potential to do it. Maybe he even entrusted school to her.

Another point might be pic related.
>At that time Yuu still hasn't realized that to be with Touko she had to give up on something
What could this something be?

I'd gladly discuss it with you but I have to go to sleep, maybe tomorrow if the chapter still not released.
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>>1995210
Alright, goodnight anon. Some other time then.
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>>1995210
>At that time Yuu still hasn't realized that to be with Touko she had to give up on something
Is that what the box says? Judging from the translated chapter it seems more that she couldn't give up on wanting to love her, not that she should give up on something.
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>>1995210
I think, it says just
"Love has still not become mine, but
" I decided to stay by this person side"
" for that, is me giving-up no option"
" that time (I) did not realize"

So I think, the scene only implies that she will be forced to rethink her ability to be in love
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Spoilers!? Shiit time to hide this thread.
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>>1995240
Maybe my English suck but I couldn't decipher what you wrote.

Correction to my grandpa theory: when he got sick parents told Touko that by standing on her own feet she might lighten his burden.

After reading that line a dozen of times I still think I stand corrected so as for what Yuu will have to give up, I think it might has something to do with the "special" talk. Hard to tell what exactly.
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ch 10 raws?
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>>1995660
No
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>>1995777
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>>1995628
Why specifically grandpa though?

>was teacher/director of the high school she goes to now, he made that tradition about Student Council and presumably was really proud of his granddaughter
Is this a speculation or something that I missed?
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>>1995930
Speculation >>1995210
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>>1971125
>>1971139
http://yuri-ism.com/category/original/food-girls/
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>>1995988
Right. So why grandpa?

The person with loli-Nanami can be her older sibling, or aunt, or uncle. Any family member, really. Why do you think it's her grandpa?
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>>1996021
Could have been influenced by Citrus
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It's time for chapter 10. Time for some things that were speculated upon in this thread to become clear.

Folder for all chapters: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/3xg5q53brg7c9/release

Direct link to chapter 10: http://www.mediafire.com/download/vqxge1yphhh8jkm/%5B4s%5D_Yagate_Kimi_ni_Naru_-_10.zip
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>>1997880
Thank you, based scanlator gods.

Getting translations mere days after the raws come out makes me feel so mainstream
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>>1997880
Thanks a lot, Scanlator(s)-sama
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>>1997880
This is just too deep for me
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>>1997880
Whoa, it's like the characters are actual people with real emotions and problems!
This is getting me even more excited for future chapters.
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>>1997880
Okay, I'll try
Touko loves Yuu because she doesn't love her back and that is because everyone likes her and she is tired of that, so, Yuu noticed that and thats why she told her that she can't fall in love with her. BUT Yuu wants to change, so in the moment Yuu begins to fall in love with her, Touku will reject her love. I'm missing something?
Sorry if my english is not that good
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>>1997899
Sounds about right.
This might get sad, if that is the case.
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

We're going for a ride now, ladies and manchildren.
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>>1997880
Wow the struggle is real. I can't understand Yuu and her rationale about her own feelings at all.
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>>1997899
But even if that happened wouldn't Touko finally realise that someone loving you like that is nothing to be afraid of and instead it's betetr to embrace it especially if she too feels attracted to Yuu?
Everyone thinking she is special and liking her for that has really nothing in common with a situation when Yuu would start liking her back in the romantic sense than just plain sempai admiration.
She would like her for who she is, not like her cause she acts like her big sister.
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>>1997910
But Saeki knows her weak side too.
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>>1997907
Getting 2mature4me!
>Manchildren hate it!
>Top 5 worst things to say to your lover!
This is going to get complicated.
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>>1997899
>Yuu noticed that and thats why she told her that she can't fall in love with her
It's kind of ironic. Until this point Yuu was really unable to love Touko. But in this chapter she could feel that Touko was getting away from her, and in that moment, Yuu felt in love (you can see the blush). But in that very same moment she also realized that if she ever said that, she would lost Touko forever.

So she had to lie.
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>>1997880
Maaaan, this is now soooooo goooood. Thank you very much!
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>>1997910
So what I think is happening is that having to live fake life pretending to be what she isn't has been eating Touko up from inside, to the point that she feels she could never be in a relationship with someone because anyone who falls in love with her would be someone who's attracted to what she's not. So when Yuu came along and confessed that she's never been in love with someone, Touko realized that she could now have a partner who says she would stay by her side and expect nothing of her (because she claims she doesn't love her) and would never leave (because she doesn't feel attraction towards anyone). It must feel incredibly liberating for her.

>She would like her for who she is, not like her cause she acts like her big sister.
The problem is she's associated love with a person expecting you behave a certain way, and thus forcing you to continue to act that way or risk losing them forever. The fact that someone could continue to love another regardless of how they change is probably something she simply can't accept.
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>>1997880
Wow this chapter actually answer almost all of the question I have. Fuck this series is too good. What did we do to deserve this.
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>>1997880
Yuu is fucked. Wonder how everything will go from now on. Will she continue to pretend, and how the whole deal with Saeki will end?
This series is really great.
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So the plot will turn into something like Touko who realized the true meaning of loving and being loved by someone you cherish, and so she will grow into someone who will live without being her sister's "replacement" anymore
Or not?

I can't predict Nakatani at all and that's exactly what makes me falling in love with her works.

>>1997952
>Fuck this series is too good. What did we do to deserve this.
Don't forget to thank Madokami and do your daily prayer, nee-sama.
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>>1997880
>I love you, please don't love me back
>I want to be with you, but I don't love you
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>>1997880
Thank you scanlator anon!!!
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>>1997880
Wow, so I was right about the older sister theory me and the other anon talked about.

Anyway, I think I understand why Touko doesn't want Yuu to love her. It's all in those phrases "I love that about you" and "if you do did that, I would fall out of love with you".
Touko believes that if Yuu really falls in love with her she'll start having expectations just like anyone else, and now she's doing the same with Yuu: she's expecting her to never change, and her current state is what she loves about her.
At the same time, she realizes that now she's bound by the shackles of love, and that she's afraid that she might even stop loving her if Yuu changes.

Did Yuu catch on that? To me, she was obviously lying when she said that she'll never be able to love her, especially after her internal monologue and that face she made when she realized that Touko would go ahead even if she wasn't by her side.
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>>1997973
>my poetry.jpg
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>>1997880
Saeki's contempt for Yuu is very obvious this chapter. Is she knows how Touko is head over heel for Yuu, she may very well lost it.

Poor BFF. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.
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Love this series! Monthy, long and great chapters. Best yuri series at the moment. Thank you translators!
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Do you think Saeki is in love with Touko at this point?
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>>1998054
Wasn't it obvious since, like, chapter 2?
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Happy ending please. Not something bittersweet.
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Could be just a jealous friend...
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The latest chapter is shit. Congrats author, triangle and drama out of your ass.
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I heard that Nakatani used to major in Linguistics, is that true?

That would explain a lot if it is.
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>best yuri series at the moment
>10 chapter in
>"I need to be better than my oneesan" drama
Check
>triangle drama
Check
>I can't and I won't ever fall in love with you drama
Check
>we'll still hold hands though!
Check

And people said this wouldn't be relying on shitty tropes.
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>>1998075
There is no triangle drama yet.
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>>1998075
Literally all the worst yuri tropes in one chapter, that takes some skill.

>>1998079
Ugh. Yet another manga with a triangle and misunderstandings and MC retardation. Thanks Nakatani!
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>>1998075
If you didn't see the "dead sibling" subplot coming, then it's your fault. People have already speculated about that before, meaning that there was already some foreshadowing.

>I can't and I won't ever fall in love with you drama
Did you read the chapter? She's lying because she realized that this is what Touko wants to hear.

And what's wrong with some drama, anyway? I swear you guys can be such fucking pussies sometimes.
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>>1998083
>And what's wrong with some drama, anyway?
It's forced. I hate this in other series, I hate it in this one.
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Yuri tropes are yuri tropes because eventually they show up in every single yuri manga.
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>>1998085
Oh you.
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>>1998085
It was obvious there gonna be some drama. Especially when all her Touhou doujins had some.

I don't like drama either though. At least mix some happy times there instead of angst.
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>>1998085
>drama is always forced
Now you're just retarded.
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>>1998085
What's forced about drama that's been foreshadowed since a long time? If you want to use memes, do it properly.
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>>1998090
>I'm retarded because the manga is piling on the angst
Nice logic.

>>1998089
Thank you for the only good reply. I started reading this thinking it'd be happy and different because everyone kept saying it's the best manga right now. I should've known better.

>>1998091
What meme? I'm tired of this happening in every yuri manga.
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>>1998085
good, now you can fuck off back to the yuru yuri thread and never come back, it's a win-win for all.
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Well personally I'm not surprised, some people did foreshadow a Citrus-like development and Nakatani IS a dramaqueen after all.
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>>1998095
If you get like that every time some drama appears, then you should just stick to comedy and 4-koma stuff.
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>>1998003
>At the same time, she realizes that now she's bound by the shackles of love, and that she's afraid that she might even stop loving her if Yuu changes.
I wouldn't say she's a fraid. She loves Yuu, but she would drop her without a second thought if she loved her back. In fact, it seemed like she was going to dump her right there when Yuu started to express her worries.

>Did Yuu catch on that?
Of course. In that moment you can see that she realized she had misread Touko all this time. She thought that she was special to Touko, the one Touko loved the most. Turns out the one Touko loves the most is her sister, and she would dump Touko right there if the latter interfered in her plan to live as a replacement for her sister.

When Yuu realized that, she got so scared that it was obvious she cares for Touko more than she thought. She cares enough to tell Touko that she will never love her, even though she knows that's a lie. She might even love her already.
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>>1998116
When did this become such a mess?
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>>1998116
>she migh even love her already
I though this was obvious this chapter. She doesn't want to loose Touko, and she cares so much about her she's ready to put her owns feelings aside. I wonder how she'll react when she realizes she's really in love with Touko.
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>>1998116
>Turns out the one Touko loves the most is her sister, and she would dump Touko
She would dump herself? wut
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>>1998119
Since the very first chapter.
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>>1998121
Sorry, I meant Yuu
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I'm ready to be disappointed at this point.
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>>1998116
And i thought Touko was a nice girls. Turns out senpai a shit.
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>>1998125
Being disappointed it's all what yuri is about.
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I'm really liking this manga. Is it next month yet?
Citrus, not so much.
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>>1998127
I don't get the structure of this sentence but I agree that yuri is too angsty these days. Gooks and chinks make better yuri than elevens.
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>>1998129
>ntr, cheating, violence and bullying
>better than anything
please
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>>1998130
Cheap drama isn't better either. And I say this as someone who started reading this from the start and observed that the status quo hasn't changed yet. Instead, the mangaka keeps adding issue after issue without solving even one.
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>>1998134
Welcome to real life.

Better get off the ride now if you can't handle getting punched in the gut everytime you read it.
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>>1998075
>>1998085
Are you the same person who kept trying to force that Asexual meme?
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>>1998148
No.

Adding asexuality too would've been the icing on the cliche drama cake.
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>>1998148
Hopefully those will shut the fuck up now, since it's now obvious that the manga is not going to head that direction.
>>1998160
Since when is asexuality cliche drama? I've rarely, if ever, seen that in manga.
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>>1998169
I was just replying to that anon who thought I was the one forcing that dumb meme.

I meant that Nakatani dumped all the tropes she could in one go and if asexuality was introduced that'd be infuriating, not that asexuality is a cliche.
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>Yuu loved senpai all along
>Touko never loved Yuu
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>>1998193
>Saeki end
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>>1998172
If anything she already introduced it. Only that it's not Koito but this guy.

You must be really bad at reading manga if you're only seeing the drama now. They are already in full force since the first chapter.
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Three important things:

Death as a plot device - it hurts, it's tragic, and it's instant drama, but it happens, deal with it. Ask around (or don't, since it's fucking rude) you'll be surprised how many people in your life have lost someone special.

The value of merits - probably the hardest thing for people who spend too many hours in Internet hugboxes to understand, but kids and adults do take pride in things. It's an amazing feeling to be able to hold your head up high and be confident of something that people really do admire you for. Mio was clearly the crown jewel of her family, and Touko wanting to step into her shoes after her passing is a perfectly understandable feeling if you knew what it's like to have merits of your own to be proud of.

Love triangle - can't really fault people for not liking this. But I personally am not convinced that Saeki is head over heels for Touko. Even if she is though, I am at least glad that she actually understands (or claims to understand) Touko's weak side, and I'd imagine that she knows about the sister thing too. That's a better third wheel than most of the ignorant idiots in other romance situations.
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>>1998193
But Touko loves Yuu, only she has a really super fucked up way of loving her. She wants to do physical stuff like kissing, handholding, and probably even more, judging from how she acted in her room, and wants Yuu to never fall in love with anyone else and only be with her, but at the same time she doesn't want to be loved back?
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>>1998225
>"Hey Touko how much do you love me?"
She would dump her on spot cause of the play. That much.
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Can't read moonrunes, where is it?
http://books.rakuten.co.jp/ranking/weekly/001001002025/#!/1/0/
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>>1998087

Nothing introduced in this story so far is a plot device exclusively used, known for, or originated from the yuri fandom.

It's like calling a hero having multiple female love interests an "anime" cliche, when that has been around since humanity's written history began.
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>>1998169
I don't thought the asex-thema is relly in here, but it is still possible.
I think Yuu really still doesn't think she can love Senpai, but she doesn't want to be alone againe. She realize that Senpai even she is in love whit her, senpai has stuff that is more importen then her love. That is a huge shock for Yuu, I think.
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>>1998082
>misunderstandings and MC retardation

It honestly amazes me that some people actually think their relationship was built on misunderstandings and that Yuu doesn't know her own feelings.

It's one thing to not enjoy the direction of the story, but you should at least strive to understand core aspects of the characters before you complain about them
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>>1998234
It's not just about the play, it's about Yuu asking Touko to drop her facade and she can't simply do that only because the girls she loves asked her.
Yuu was getting cocky because she thought that she could interfere with Touko's will as long as she could reassure Touko that she'll still like her.
Touko has been working for 7 years to become like that, and Yuu didn't consider that for Touko this is really, really important, even though she's torturing herself everyday to live up to these standards.
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>>1998257
>It honestly amazes me that some people actually think their relationship was built on misunderstandings
Yuu herself admits she misuderstood Touko's feelings.

>and that Yuu doesn't know her own feelings.
I'm not sure if she loves Touko yet, but even if she does, I'm pretty sure she still hasn't fully realized it yet.
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>>1998268
Yuu thinks too highly of herself and that's the only thing she misunderstand in this chapter.
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>>1998268

No, Yuu misunderstood how much Touko cares about her sister's legacy. That's not the foundation of their relationship.

And Yuu is aware of her feelings, that's why she said all the stuff she said after Touko explained why she'd continue the play no matter what.
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>>1998259
>she thought that she could interfere with Touko's will as long as she could reassure Touko that she'll still like her.

And she would be right if this were any other series. The "I accept the real you" line is usually a bomb saved for the finale in so many other stories that concludes a couple's development, but here it doesn't work and I'm so happy Yuu got BTFO for thinking it would.
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>>1998235
Which vol are you looking for, 1 or 2?

Vol 1 were released on Oct. 2015 so chances are it wont rank. Vol 2 release date is 27 April this year.
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>>1998322
It wont rank, because that guy is looking at ranking of comics released be Yuri Hime
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>>1998328
I didn't know Yuri Hime released Philosophia. You really learn something new everyday huh.
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>>1998330
They released compiled doujinshi. Same goes with some of Takemiya Jin's.
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>>1998330
Well, is is that surprising? I always have the impression Yuri Hime publish all of Amano works except her doujins.

Its quite sad that 9/10 of that list is dominated by Yryr, and the other one is NTR shit.

I heard that there are some good series going on right now, but never being able to see raws or translation kinda kill it for me.

I dont mind seeing Nakatani working for Dengeki since its yuri friendly anyways. And knowing its audience maybe she can spare us the angst always oozing out from her doujins work. But Yuri Hime could really have some more author with nice art and story, like the one making Sisters with Food porn (and she used to draw super lewd doujins before to boost)...
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>>1998340
>Dengeki
>yuri friendly
Yeah, that's why she and editor were afraid at first how it'll be accepted and said in the interview that it was great how Dengeki is so broad-minded.
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>>1998347
Yeah, Food Girls is also being published in there, so they indeed want the yuri audience.
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It's better if you don't care about sales because it's not selling well.
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>>1998352
I don't want to have the good old yuri definition discussion so if the author's word is not convincing enough for you than whatever.
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>>1998354
Of course, that's why it got reprinted 3 times in like 3 months.

>>1998360
I wasn't being ironic in that post.
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>>1998354
It's better if you don't care about sales because there's no stalker and only manga which sell hundreds of thousands ranks on oricon. In other words you can't prove shit.
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>>1998363
Not that anon but on japanese amazon's ranking (not rakuten above) it's under Yuru Yuri, Netsuzou, Citrus, some yuri anthologies, that other subtext yuri manga I don't remember the name and some others I don't know.
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>>1998366
If you're talking about the current ranking of volume 1, I'd say it's natural since it was released in October.
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>>1998352
Is that food girl thing actually Yuri now?

It's a pleasant read but I haven't kept up in the last couple of chapters since there it didn't feel that engaging or heading towards anything romantic given their circumstance
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> lol people actually think saeki is any threat to their relationship
> even bigger lol to the people who think nakatani is using cliches

Have we been reading the same manga? This has got to be by far the most interesting series plot wise. The characters are multidimensional and don't just get dokis from first encounters. Even touko has some messed up ideals regarding love. And yeah we can see that touko is now probably already in love with her but she knows she'll lose whatever she has if she ever voices that aloud.
Touko and koito just need someone to be with. Honestly chapter 10 was the best by far. bless nakatani from breaking away form the usual tropes. I'd like to thank not only god but also jesus for this mango.
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sorry i meant koito is probably in love with nanami
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>>1998402
Buy it then.
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>>1998405
from where?
are the official eng translations out
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On the bright side, at least nee-san is dead so that we can rest easy knowing that the various "I'm going to sabotage your relationship because I can" plots can't happen.

I wonder if Yuu's sister knew Touko's sister. Everything happened seven years and she's in university right now, so it's not impossible that she knew her in passing.
Ultra Tinfoil Hat Mode: they secretly dated back in high-school before Mio died, which is why her sister so casually jokes around about Yuu having a girlfriend.
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>>1998433
The tinfoil hat stuff is pretty much not gonna happen. But it wouldn't be surprising if they knew each other or knew of each other at the least

So far the story has resolved its conflicts very gracefully and quickly, Yuu realizing what Touko is actually feeling is the first major roadblock introduced and as far as we can see, it probably won't get brought up right away again, at least not directly between them.

If I had to venture a guess, this chapter changed Yuu's decision about the play but she will ask her friend to write a script that will SPECIFICALLY target Touko's situation and use it as a way to do something about their relationship
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>>1998440
>If I had to venture a guess, this chapter changed Yuu's decision about the play but she will ask her friend to write a script that will SPECIFICALLY target Touko's situation and use it as a way to do something about their relationship
So it's basically given that Touko and Yuu will play the main roles in it isn't it?
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>>1998463
Touko is like 99% sure to play a main role

But I'm actually not sure about Yuu. I think playing the other main role next to Touko would be a bit too predictable, and I'd love to see how Nakatani resolves this without putting Yuu in that situation
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>>1998463
Saeki will want to play the main role along with Touko.
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Wasn't the competition winning short that got Nakatani the opportunity to publish this series also feature siblings/twins and one of them dying or something?
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I love it cause is it so different. Now when will we get a good fantasy yuri series that doesn't go into hiatus...
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>>1998724
>would be be interesting to see Saeki goes to Touko and says she can offer the same thing.
Touko's not stupid enough to believe that. She's pretty much aware of Saeki's feelings.
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>>1998480
It's very likely that Saeki would try for it. This chapter made clear that not only she understands Touko pretty well, she is also pretty committed to her. She doesn't make her move in the previous chapter because only now she realizes how big of a threat Koito is, to the point she felt it was necessary to tell her to stay away from Touko. It also makes me wonder if she purposely drop the bit about Touko's sister to Koito so that in a fit of the moment, Koito would go and spawn the thing we see in this chapter and almost got dumped right there. But this theory maybe a little bit too far fetched.

We all know why Touko loves Yuu, so I think it's would be be interesting to see Saeki goes to Touko and says she can offer the same thing.
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>>1998727
Sorry, I deleted my original comment cause some typos.

> She's pretty much aware of Saeki's feelings
Does she? I don't remember any bit in the manga showing Saeki being overly affectionate though. Maybe Nakatani would show Saeki's fail confession attempt in the past in the next chapter.
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>>1998738
The way Touko manipulates Saeki to let Yuu take her place in the elections at the beginning of the manga shows Touko knows Saeki pretty well.

I don't know if Saeki's feelings are romantic but that's irrelevant. Even if it was platonic, she still loves Touko, and the latter is most definitely aware of that.
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>>1998738
You blind? Saeki is already shown to be romantically interested in Touko in a previous flash-back chapter, and a lot of her scenes does revolve around Touko. I don't know why people are purposely ignoring pretending otherwise, because of some "fear" of a love triangle happening. Even if it does, so what? That's up to the author.

However, back on earth, it's seems like it's not really meant to be that kind of story. So there's nothing to seriously worry about. I'm sure some kind of sound resolution will come about. Or Saeki will be paired with another other girl.

The more interesting bit is with Touko. This one is clearer that Yuu will likely end up getting hurt, as mentioned above in the many reasons.
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>>1998729
I like your thinking!

But more seriously, I do like Saeki (alongside Touko x Yuu). When the story has made enough headway, I hope the author will give some attention to her arc and development (With the Yuri!).
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>>1999021

It's never been made clear that Saeki likes Touko romantically.

Yes the "clues" are there and if this were your standard CGDCT subtext story, I'd be convinced that it's totally romantic. But this was a Yuri series from the start, so I feel no need to so desperately convince myself that Saeki's protectiveness towards Touko is a clear sign of romantic or sexual attraction
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>>1999155
Shouldn't be the opposite though? Since this was a yuri series from the start, it's even more likely that one female character would be in love with another female character.
Anyway, I don't like the love triangle either, but I don't see how you can interpret her feelings as anything but romantic. Looking at her reaction in pic related, it should be obvious to the reader why she's asking that question.
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>>1999188

Basically, I don't feel the need to "ship" the characters since this is already an explicit Yuri series and in my opinion it's also very well written.

So instead of dreaming up scenarios and speculate who loves who, I rather just let the author do her thing and watch the Yuri unfold as it is.

We can cross that Saeki bridge when and if it comes to that.

Just my two cents.
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>>1999241
This isn't about "shipping" or anything like that. Saeki's romantic feelings for Touko are quite obvious, like it or not. Since this might, and most likely will, have a big impact on the plot, I don't see why it's not worth speculating about what will happen just like we do with every other plot point.
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>>1999251
Because the romance is out in the open and fantastic as it is, so I don't feel the need to convince myself that another party is definitely in love.

It's a luxury. I'll worry about their triangle when she actually confesses.
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It's irrelevant whether or not she's actually in love. Once she finds out that they're in a relationship, her actions will be pretty much the same whether or not she's in love with Touko or she just wants to be her closest friend.
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>>1997880
Doing God's work, 4s-nee-sama.

Good job, Nakatani. Turned out Touko needs a psychiatrist. If not for the last chapter, I'd label Touko a total manipulative bitch, but she appears to genuinely adore Yuu, whether it's for the right or wrong reasons.

By the way, do you believe Yuu's own words or Maki's observation? She keeps saying she does not love Touko, but she is so protective of Touko and pretty much always end up indulge her. I put more stock in words than actions, so I can't really take Yuu's words for it.

Oh boy, anime when?
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>>1999410
>put more stock in words than actions
Uh... got that reverse. *put more stock in actions than words.
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>>1999410
Well, as of before that chapter, I think Yuu still hadn't loved Touko, or at least felt a full blow attraction to her yet. Only when Touko's about to dump her there and then, she is made aware that her feelings for Touko is changing, and it can very well bloom into love someday. Yuu knows she is lying, but it's the only way to keep Touko by her side.

I mean now i just realize how fucked up the casts in this series are. Put aside the two MC with their fucked up relationship, you have a best friend who is potentially a crazy jealous lesbian and a male character who is literally /u/ self insert.
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>>1999426
This. Yuu's feelings started to bloom for real in this chapter, when she was faced with the possibility of losing Touko.
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>Eventually I will become a psycho

It all makes sense now.
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So YP dropped this after the licensing, can we get Dynasty to host the up to date chapters now?
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Is someone gonna redo the chapters translated by Ihoshiku ?
If I remember well the anon who scanned the tank said that they will do it, don't if know if they still want to do it.

After reading the chapter 10, what Touko said in the last panel may be somehow incomprehensible because she said that (pic related) for people who don't know about the mistranslation, through the whole translation was pretty bad. Some anons corrected the translation in the previous threads but archive is gone ;_;.
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>>1999634
Is the RAW for vol 1 available somewhere?
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>>1999426
>Yuu knows she is lying, but it's the only way to keep Touko by her side.
Yeah, she looked really in pain when she told Touko that she can't love her and will never be able to, but the latter lightened up when she said those words and she decided to keep up the act. Yuu deciding to join the play might also be a metaphor for her stopping being so honest with her feelings and starting to perform this role.

>I mean now i just realize how fucked up the casts in this series are
At first I didn't realize it either, I thought that the characters were just normal teens facing the issues of puberty, then turns out they all perceive love in a really fucked up way, even for the average teenager.

But seriously, what the fuck Japan, a little girl just lost her sister and you don't even send her to a therapist and instead keep insisting that she should become "a wonderful person just like her sister"?
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>>1999649
Yes, the link was in archive though.
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>>1999654
Do you have the link? Or can you re upload it somewhere?

>好きでいさせて
Shouldn't this translate to something like "Let me keep loving you"? How did it become "I will make you fall for me". Well never mind, mistakes happens.
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>>1999682
>Well never mind, mistakes happens
Yeah, no. It was known that iHoshiku isn't good translator since her AnR translation but that was obvious only because raws were easily available, with Yagakimi it wasn't the case so aside from title no one complained. When 1st volume came out it came to the light how bad the translation actually was and since then she's nowhere to be found. You think that just because it's for free it's okay to do a sub-par job when in reality she could make raws public and ask for help to proofread. But no, she wanted all the fame to herself much like 4s now.

Re-uped:
https://ln.steamy.moe/kpxybp.rar
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>>1999722
Thanks.

Yeah, I never understand that. They scanlated this because they wants other people to read YagaKimi right? So why keep the raw away from public? Having access to both raw and the translated version means that we could point out inconsistencies or mistakes and have them fixed. Mistakes do happen, no matter how careful you are. It should be a win win situation for all of us if we realized the mistake faster and have them fixed right away. In the end it would only benefits us both as the readers and as the fans of YagaKimi.
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Now that we know Touko got few screw loose, do you think she masturbate to Yuu?
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>>1999773
Why are you still asking this question after how she was in Yuu's room?
Probably every night.
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>>1999969
Do you think she prefer doing it under blanket or outside blanket? Perhaps in the bathroom?

Her puppies are pretty big too, would she imagine Yuu licking and sucking on them while she itch her ditch? Can Touko lick her puppies while she's getting off?

I'm sorry but Touko is hot and there's no fanart of her hot bods so I need a way to vent.
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>>1999978
Anon, stop being so lewd.
She only masturbates in missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation.
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>>2000014
Oh my god anon that's even more lewd than anything I can imagine.

Do you think Touko sometimes imagine lactating for Yuu and have suckle on her jugs like a newborn while Yuu repeatedly mumble 'I don't love you' 'I can't love you' as she gently sucks on Touko's nipples?

Or would Touko fantasize pushing down unwilling Yuu and have her way with her until the only sounds that came out of Yuu is a breathless 'I won't love you' while she lactates and Touko keeping her milk in a bottle for drinking later.

Someone please stop me.
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>>1999634
>>1999722
>>1999748
4s translator here. We are going to redo volume 1. I was going to start working on it two weeks ago but an extremely unexpected and very bad real life thing happened so that got put on hold. I should be able to start working on it very soon, if not today, though.
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>>1999773

How is Touko cray just because she wants to fill her sibling's shoes?
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>>2000273
She's not crazy, just not in perfect mental health.
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Frankly there a no 'normal' perceptions of love, what we have are ideals. These kids have become disillusioned(through their own experiences) by these ideals so they've formed their own perceptions. I'd hardly call it twisted...
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>>2000142
Thank you
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>>2000041
>Touko fantasize pushing down unwilling Yuu and have her way with her...
Impossibru
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>>2000328
Only Touko and Yuu are a bit off when compared to the traditional ideal of love

There is nothing wrong with Maki and Saeki
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>>2000436
What's that from?

Got the raw? I can't read Chinese.
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>>2000604
It's from melon special booklet. I haven't seen raw anywhere yet.

http://www.weibo.com/5460828565/D4odpojc0?from=page_1005055460828565&type=comment#_rnd1457254447887

http://www.seemh.com/comic/17201/205728.html
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>>1999651
Do you honestly believe that she would have been carted immediately to a psychiatrist in any other country? If she had gone into a catatonic phase after her death, probably, but it's likely that she started to emulate her sister soon after the incident and such a change could easily be interpreted in the wrong way as something positive rather than negative. After such a tragedy her family was probably just happy to see her not hole herself up, not everyone is a psychiatrist or perceptive enough to look behind every human facade.

I give you that those were some fucked up sentences to say to someone emotional unstable, but a lot of times things like that become only apparent in hindsight. Comparisons to other people or 'I wish you were more x' are always land mines to people with self-doubts as they can easily be missinterpreted as a complete rejection of their self. However people rarely have the direct intention to hurt someone with such a sentence, usually they just don't realize the emotional weight such a statement can contain.
The ones in question were ham-fisted attempts to show their high opinion of Mio or trying to encourage Touko to stay strong. Single utterances from a random amount of people, taken all together they paint a crushing picture, but they're still cherry picked lines from mourning people that definitely didn't plan to emotionally scar a little girl for life.
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>>2000646
Looks like it's similar to tora's special booklet NHFH released a while ago. Just with guest illustration from other yuri mangaka like Itou Hachi and Kanno.
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>>1998125
This chapters leaves me a really bad impression, but considering what happened before something useful will happen and drama will be avoided.
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>>1998402
>breaking the tropes
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>>2001782

I'm sure you have plenty of evidence to convince people whatever is it that you're trying to imply
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Whatever it happens next, hope it does it better than this chapter.
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>>2001869
Yeah. Somehow after this chapter I don't like it as much as before.

Touko is now just shit manipulative character. Thought she gonna turn out different but the signs were there when she treated Saeki like shit.
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>>2001941
That's not manipulative. She's actually upfront about her thoughts and feelings.
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>>2001941
>chapter is about how feelings of love can fade away if the person you love turns out to be different/changes in a way you don't like
>readers used to love Touko
>she turns out to be different from what she seemed like in the beginning
>now the very same people will start disliking her because she betrayed their expectations

Like poetry.
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I'm really a bit confused now.
Touko is hella selfish from the looks of it.
Why doesn't she want Yuu to lover her exactly? And does Yuu love her now or not?
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>>2002016
I feel Yuu is the one who loves Touko more. It felt like Touko wouldn't bat an eye and dump Yuu whenever she doesn't follow her. Yuu was actually the one who had to give up and follow.

And now they are in relationship where senpai is in control.
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>>2002016
She likes Yuu because Yuu doesn't like/love her. If Yuu liked her, Yuu would be categorized as the same with the other people who only like her because of her other part. It's like you can't believe someone would like you. Most people like her because she's like her sister, or she exhibits ideal traits. So having someone really like you is unbelievable.

That's how I take it.
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>>2002104
But Yuu said she was fine with her other side too, then she said she would rather die.
Did Yuu just agree to do whatever she wanted because she's lonely?
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>>2002112
>But Yuu said she was fine with her other side too, then she said she would rather die.
Just because she says so, it doesn't mean that Touko would believe her. Touko's clearly emotionally damaged, and it will take a lot to convince her that someone could love her real self. And that's only provided she actually wants that.

>Did Yuu just agree to do whatever she wanted because she's lonely?
If it was out of loneliness, she could look for someone else. But no, she agreed to do whatever Touko wants because she's starting to love her for real.
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>>2002120
>having someone really like you is unbelievable.
I disagree. It stems about Touko's perspective on love being a shackle. She doesn't think that the person confessing their love is shackled; she thinks that the person receiving the confession is shackled by that person's expectations. All her life, she has been forced to live up to the ideals of the wonderful sister or the perfect senpai by those who love her.

Touko loves Yuu because she doesn't judge her or force her to act in one particular way, meaning she's free to pretty much do whatever wants around/with Yuu. If Yuu were to fall in love with her, whether it be with her "perfect"-self or "real"-self, Touko thinks that Yuu would be forcing her to live up to those beliefs, making her no different than anyone else in her life.

Ultimately, Bloom Into You is the story of a girl who can't love and a girl who doesn't want to be loved trying to make a relationship work.
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>>2002128
>Touko loves Yuu because she doesn't judge her or force her to act in one particular way, meaning she's free to pretty much do whatever wants around/with Yuu. If Yuu were to fall in love with her, whether it be with her "perfect"-self or "real"-self, Touko thinks that Yuu would be forcing her to live up to those beliefs, making her no different than anyone else in her life.
Someone who loves her for real would not force her to live up to any ideals. The fact that Touko believes such stupidity means her idea of love is warped.

>Ultimately, Bloom Into You is the story of a girl who can't love and a girl who doesn't want to be loved trying to make a relationship work.
Yuu already loves Touko. That's why she got so scared when she felt she would lose her, and why she's willing to lie to keep her close. Short of forcing Touko to live up to any ideals, Yuu is sacrificing her own feelings for her. And that proves that Touko's idea of love is misguided.

The one who can't love for real is Touko, since she's the one who isn't willing to make any sacrifice.
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>>2002153
I wasn't claiming that the way Touko thinks about love is good or reasonable in any way.

And I mostly included the last statement because I wanted a nice, gripping concluding statement to end with post with (if, somewhat at the expense of some accuracy).
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Maybe Touko is the doing the "blooming" and will come around to love a Yuu that also loves her.
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>>2002221
If anything, all of them would be. That's the pinnacle of adolescence.
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>>2002128
Touko is pretty selfish. Maybe selfish isn't the right word, uh lets see.. oh yeah. She's a hypocrite. She hates being shackled by people's expectation and yet she imprison Yuu with her 'love'.

Oh man, now I know why Nakatani is nervous about this chapter.
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>>2002376
I don't think she necessarily hates living up to other people's expectations. She mentions in Chapter Five that she wants to stay special, meaning that she gets some sort of satisfaction from meeting others' expectations. She finds it refreshing that Yuu doesn't expect anything from her, but that doesn't mean that she wants everyone else to stop expecting things from her or thinks it's wrong to do so.

On a semi-related note, I don't know if anyone else noticed this but in the first chapter, once Touko falls for Yuu, she immediately stops using an honourific and calls her by her first name. I wonder why she did it.
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>>2002538
Because that's what you do when you're close with someone.

Touko is pretty clingy
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>>2002538
Well yeah, that doesn't mean that what she's doing now isn't hypocritical of her. She must felt some kind of satisfaction and pride when she manage to fulfil people's expectation but at the same time she's burdened by it. That only makes her more complex and human though.
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hey there i just read the raws but don't speak japanese, can someone give me a brief summary of what happened in this chapter? even after reading all these comments i am still confused :S
and is anyone translating it at the moment?
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>>2002790
>just read the raws
>don't speak japanese
>what happened in this chapter
>is anyone translating it
Is this bait or are you just that stupid?
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>>2002376

> Touko is pretty selfish. Maybe selfish isn't the right word, uh lets see.. oh yeah. She's a hypocrite. She hates being shackled by people's expectation and yet she imprison Yuu with her 'love'.

The funny thing is, Yuu understands that Touko is being selfish/hypocritical and still loves her in spite of it - she's said it before, and you can also kind of see it in Yuu's little sigh when Touko says she loves her on page 31.

And I think Yuu is willingly allowing herself to be imprisoned too. Which is what makes their relationship so compelling to me.
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>>2002790
lurk moar
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>>2002831
>>2002376
Still have trouble making the leap of logic from "love" to "shackle"

This probably wouldn't be such a confusing matter if Touko didn't love Yuu for what she is. But Touko is making a big deal out of Yuu not loving her and not having unreasonable expectation of her, but how would this change if Yuu did love her? In both scenarios, Touko would still be the reliable president with a timid side that Yuu already knows and Yuu wouldn't have any unreasonable expectation of her, besides wanting the love to be returned, which Touko already does anyway.

For example, would the dynamic of their studying sessions change, if Yuu loved Touko? Right now they study together because Touko is the older and presumably better scoring student, she's willingly tutoring Yuu. If their affections were mutual, Touko would still be the older and smarter student, but now they have the side bonus of getting sexy in the bedroom which Touko already wants to do anyway.

The most infuriating part of this is that even at the most superficial level, Touko already knows Yuu thinks Touko is pretty and that Yuu respects her ability as a leader in the school, so she shouldn't even be mad at Yuu having a change of heart.
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>>2003368
Touko thinks that if Yuu loved her back, then she would start having those expectations and it would break what they have. Sure, if Yuu stayed the same then it wouldn't be a problem, Yuu changing is exactly what Touko is afraid of.
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>>2003388
Yuu could change without falling in love with Touko.

As someone who underwent quite the change from her younger self, Touko should know that.
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>>2003399
I wonder if maybe she doesn't want Yuu to be shackled by falling in love with her as well.
It might not be completely selfish on Touko's part if she thinks it's a shackle for the one who falls in love and the one who's loved.
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>>1999651
>don't even
People usually do?
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>>2003368
First of all, having rational thoughts does not necessarily mean one can carry them out. For example, a shy person can rationally know that other people will not bite him if he becomes a little more outspoken, yet still can never bring himself to be outspoken. That's how subconciousness works. People can't always bring themselves to do everything they know is logical.

Once you understand that, it's easy to understand what's going on with Touko. She loves the feeling of fulfilling other people's expectations, and at the same time constantly tired out by those same expectations (yes, she's a contradicting person, but you'll be surprised by how many people actually share this same dilemma). She can't avoid expectations at school and at home, so she has no choice but to fulfill them. However, in love, she does have a choice to avoid expectations: finding a person who doesn't love her at all.

Tl;dr: Everybody in Touko's life keeps baiting her with carrots. Jumping to get the carrots is awesome but also tiring, so she wants Yuu to not dangle any carrot in her face, less her inner self wanting to chase after the carrot again.
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>>2003811
If Yuu isn't baiting her now, why would she start baiting her after falling in love?

And Yuu could start baiting her anyway without falling for her. She already expects her to play the lead in the play.
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>>2004036
What you say makes sense, but I think anon's point is that Touko can't just belive that. She's scared that Yuu will change. Aven though she knows that probably won't happen, she can't help being scared.
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>>2004158
My concern is mostly with how firmly Touko believes that she's got it all figured out.

For someone who deliberately hides a part of herself from the general public, she is way too confident about her own expectation of how other people will behave.

Is she not doing the exact same thing to Yuu that she herself fears? Even putting aside the whole idea of love, she's placing a huge amount of expectation on Yuu and shackling her to what she wants Yuu to be.
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>>2004361
That's why I called her a hypocrite before.

Anyway do we need new thread?
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>>2004571
Not sure, new chapter is what, three weeks away at minimal?

I wish the newest chapters can get uploaded to Dynasty though, what parties need to be talked to get it done?
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>>2004825
Talking to the ones sitting in their IRC usually gets the job done quicker. That or submit a suggestion and wait for them to slug through everything.
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New thread just in case

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>>2005024
>>2005024
>>2005024
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>>1999259
You are the one trying to convince yourself to see what you want to see. Saeki is very obviously in love with Touko. Doesn't mean you don't like it, means it isn't reality. Very likely, it's the author's intention, to have Saeki's angle unfold this way. So who are you to say how romance should be done or portrayed? This is the author's work not yours.

Other normal fans I come across completely accept that Saeki is in love with Touko, but they don't give her much thought, or think she has any chance with Touko. Most of them simply focus on Touko and Yuu. This is a pretty objective view (also, I notice they don't have any funny dislike of a love triangle, nor are they are rooting for one). Unlike, your nonsensical delusion.

>>1999251
Best common sense argument I've seen. A few chapters from now, we will both continue to be correct. And if the author is as good as she is, I'm sure things will be brought about in an interesting turn that isn't cliche.
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