Touhou Project - Taking a Picture With an Alien Edition

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>>1942470

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Anyone else ship this?
There's not much art of Raiko in general, which is a shame.

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>>1942600

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>>1942601

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>>1942602

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>>1942606

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best new ship coming through

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>>1943195

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>>1942730
I suggest we make ReiAli our new overlords

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>>1943222
I think we should have love and tolerance for all the wrong pairings in the world

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>>1943233
Oh no you didn't

>tfw only played touhou 6

I have no idea who most of these bitches are.

>>1943776
Keep playing, Aneki, and you will know some day.

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They're baaaaack...
http://dec.2chan.net/55/res/5967562.htm
Touhou Sangetsusei is being restarted.
In addition to the Three Fairies of Light, Cirno and Daiyousei will be recurring characters.
One of the Three Fairies is going to become the third party in a triangular relationship with Cirno and Daiyousei.

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>>1944210
>One of the Three Fairies is going to become the third party in a triangular relationship with Cirno and Daiyousei

That´s doujinshi magic right here

>>1944210
That got to be a joke.

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>>1944370
Exactly as Yuyuko planned, of course.

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>>1942600
i ship benben, yatsuhashi, and raiko together as a threesome (yatsuhashi deserves to be included in the yuri love too), although benben and raiko by themselves are really cute too. i agree that it is a shame there is not more art of raiko. raiko has such a cool design.

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I like KoiSato the most.

>>1947406
Try this then. Its all Koishi and Satori. Nothing but.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoeId20r3u4

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>>1944285
No, not a joke.

Hey /u/ guys, what's the best way to get into Touhou if I suck at/kind of hate Bullet Hell games?

>>1948609
The printed works

>>1943776
I used to depend primarily on doujin to familarize myself with Touhou characters. You end up mostly knowing memes and shit but that's what tends to drive the fandom.

However, there's been a stready decline in the number of Touhou doujin artists over the years. The characters went from having basically no backstory like the SDM group to the most recent games with relately detailed backstories, which means fewer gaps for doujin artists to fill. You could have a hundred different takes on who Sakuya is but basically everyone latched onto the saintly "youkai and humans living in harmony" image given to Byakurrn even though canonically she wouldn't trust humans if not hate them.

Also a lot of the most recognizable artists seem to have either retired, moved on to fresh material, or have started original stories.

It's kind of depressing but at the same time it's a part of life

>>1948786
I prefer the characters as they are in the games.
While the earlier games didn't have much backstory, the characters were much, much less stereotypical.
This is especially noticeable in Alice.
In the games where they do interact, she and Marisa both snark at each other quite a bit. It gives the impression that they don't always see each other but they're comfortable with each other when they do.
In fanon Alice is just a generic tsundere.

>>1948801
You must be reading the wrong stuff.

>>1948452
Source? That sounds like the best thing ever, so I don't believe one word of it.

>>1948786
>The characters went from having basically no backstory like the SDM group to the most recent games with relately detailed backstories, which means fewer gaps for doujin artists to fill.

This is nonsense. Just because the west didn't have the bios translated doesn't mean they didn't exist.

But they did. The amount of backstory to fill has never changed - in fact, many of the earlier characters had much LESS room to fill than recent ones.

Why are western fans always so retarded to think that translated stuff = all that ever existed?

>>1948768
I was hoping for a slightly more specific suggestion than that.

>>1949223
Wild and Horned Hermit has many of the major players.

New MeiSaku video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH9u6O_9Hbk

also >>1949223
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Official_Literature

Yandere (?) Alice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgwFxXp_qwY

A Summer dip in Misty Lake with Koa and Meiling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElopsZ7hm5E

>>1949666
>>1949790
Perfect! Thanks.

>>1948813
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Cirno#Three_Fairies_of_Light
Its already canon that after meeting the Three Fairies of Light, Cirno started to ignore Daiyousei and Daiyousei was pissed enough about it to attack Cirno in Fairy Wars.
More specifically Cirno was seen together with Luna in a crowd scene in Wild and Horned Hermit.
So the basis has already been laid down.
If I were a betting man, I would wager that only Daiyousei sees the relationship as romantic/sexual. It would be the typical Touhou response.
And really the whole thing is an attempt to explain why Daiyousei fought Cirno in Fairy Wars, when virtually the whole fandom already were convinced they were a couple.

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>>1943195
>>1943196
So is this a rival ship or a 3p situation?

>>1950132
I usually see it as either as straight rival Hestia/Clownpiece or with Clownpiece in the daughter role rather than a 3P.

>>1950137
A lot of people see them as a family.
I like that interpretation myself, as it breaks what is at this point a tradition of pairing master and subordinate.

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This is a new pair. The dream eating tapir and the one winged angel.

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>>1951065

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Who's getting paired with Clownpiece?

>>1951070
AMERICA

I think the prevailing trend is her as Hecatia/Junko's daughter, but there's also Clownpiece/Hecatia on its own.

>>1951343
>>1951345

PatchuAli is the strongest

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>>1951121
Thanks, I haven't touched touhou in a whale. Is Yukarei still cool?

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>>1951386
It was never cool, just a passing amusement during the endless centuries of a real love.

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>>1951386
It's still one of the most popular ships of both parties.

>>1951387
Only if you're one of those who believes human/non-human pairings are instant tragedy fodder.

Also YukarixRan? Really? If you're going to troll at least go with YukarixYuyuko

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>>1951389
>YukarixYuyuko
But /u/ told me they broke up after the whole resurrection thing! Liar, it's over between us.

>>1951396
No they didn't, they cant since Yukari is the thing in this world that keeps Yuyuko from crossing over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2V5mZwm-vI

Remilia and the Maid Fairy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i76RTpYkU00
Check out the very end for who the Fairy Maid becomes.

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>>1951389
Yuyuko is friend-fodder, nee-san. There is nothing as pure and true as love between master and servant, cultivated and sweetening over hundreds of years.

Sexy ghost tits > Furry

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So what are they ara ara ing about on this warm summers day while cooling off their feet?

>>1951607
SpinKappa!

Touhou Fantasy Kaleidoscope- Memories of Phantasm Ep 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rosm18WOyOA
The Yama Strikes Back

Wish I had seen this a couple weeks ago. A EkiMachi Christmas Carol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMZRaYec-Qk

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>>1952716
Yukari marrying Raymoo would improve human/youkai political relationships. Better than tits.

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>>1952939

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>>1952939
can someone make this a thing that i can copy and send in texts and stuff? i wanna use it in my steam profile

>>1951070
Cirno very rarely.

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>>1953190

>>1952893
I don't think Yukari is interested in another dead wife.
Reimu's power stems from her being human.
In spite of her OP hax its far from clear that Reimu has any magic of her own and is simply not a vessel to transmit the power of the gods. So she has to remain a mortal at least until she has an heiress. So she will probably die a mortal.
And after Renko and Yuyuko, I don't think Yukari wants to go through that again.

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>>1953208
I prefer to think Yukari is only attracted to mortals.

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>>1953208
Nobody know what goes on in Yukari's head.

I'd imagine she just has an unfortunate tendency to have all her pursued relationships end in tragedy some way or another. Though it probably will stop after Reimu bites it.

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>>1954488

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>>1953208
Perhaps Yukari can wait for Reimu's reincarnation.

>>1954764
You do know, that each time ZUN has released something involving Renko, her appearance has changed to look more and more like Reimu.
Although the way she dresses and her manner of speaking has always been more like Marisa.

Why Hakugyokurou's Bloomers Don't Dry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWc4jK2OehA

Nice boat.
Board x Yuubari OTP

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>>1955857
Can you nice boat a ghost?

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キタ━━━(゜∀゜)━━━ッ!!

http://exhentai.org/g/892698/7ad8007a06/

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What's the most popular pairing with Byakuren?

>>1960293
If I had to guess I'd say Miko

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>>1960303
Looks cute, care to explain their dynamic? haven't played 10 oh desires yet.

>>1960315
I'm secondary as fuck but I think they are rivals in the religious war game and somehow both of them adopted Kokoro as their daughter

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>>1960315
>>1960320
Yeah they're rivals. In TD, Byakuren builds her new temple above Miko's mausoleum to inhibit her from resurrecting, since Miko had been dormant for a few hundred years with Futo and Tojiko, waiting to become Taoist hermits. Buddhist monks had been doing similar things to stop Miko (and Taoism) over those years, but it didn't work this time and Miko still resurrects.

Regarding Kokoro, the daughter dynamic comes from her set of masks being commissioned by Miko when she was the crown prince and from Byakuren offering her help to control her emotions (through Buddhism). Both characters took an interest in assisting Kokoro, so it adds to the rival thing.

>>1960315
They hate each other because they each want to propagate a different religion, and each wishes that the other's group would have never come to Gensokyo.

So obviously that means they must actually want to fuck each other.

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>>1960320
>>1960322
Thanks, and damn guess Shou can't do much againt a daughter and will have to content with her mouse.

>>1960322
I believe Miko has a deeper connection to Kokoro.

Yup. I just checked the wiki:
>While she was still alive, Miko created the 66 masks which Kokoro was born from. Miko later makes Kokoro a new mask of hope to replace her lost one. However, Kokoro discarded this mask, as its stabilising effect was so powerful that it would eventually cause her to turn back into a set of inanimate objects. Her feelings towards Miko over this are unknown.

>>1960340
Ah yeah, forgot to mention that. I find it weird though that Kokoro never brings it up afterwards, considering what Miko was trying to do.

>>1960340
Meanwhile Kokoro is finding koi with Koishi...

>>1960471
Mindreading girlfriend seems like a curse.

>>1960510
She gave that ability up as part of her backstory. Only Satori still has it.

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>>1960516
Having a girlfiend with a mindreading sister sounds scary too. Can't have hand holding thoughts around her.

>>1960633
Satori and Byakuren both think the relationship is therapeutic for the both of them.
They both encourage it.
If Satori detected lewd thoughts like that from EITHER of them, she would be happy as it would be an improvement in either ones condition.

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I wonder if this book is yuri enough to warrant importing/scanning? This artist does good yuri illustrations but their doujinshi are usually just ecchi-ish and not that great.

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>>1963427
>>1963431
Just saw this artbook. Looks so rough compared to the rest of ke-ta's work.

>>1963440
He didn't finish it with computer editing. I wonder why?

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I'm not really sure what started me on this pair, but I've grown to like it quite a lot in the time its spent bouncing around in my head.

Shame there's so little material and like half of one untranslated doujin about them.

>>1962308
Finally, a Junko/all three Hecatias pic.
I wonder if we'll see Junko/Hecatia doujins at some point?

>>1965158
I hope so. From fanart I think they're the big couple to come out of LOLK, but I don't know if anything has been announced for Reitaisei 13.

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>>1965446

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>>1965447

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>>1965448

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>>1965451

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>>1965452

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>>1965453

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>>1965455

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>>1965456

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>>1965459

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>>1965460

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>>1965464
This picture like an illustration to the cute fairy tale where brave Witch saves the Princess and together their fly to the sunset on the broom to be happy forever and ever.

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>>1965466

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>>1965469

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>>1966151
KeneMokou is comfy.

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Touhou Sangetsusei- Visionary Fairies in Shrine Ch 1.
First guest star- Clownpiece.

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>>1968268
What went on between her and Hecate that she ran away from home?

>>1968273
New step-mom Junko made her eat her veggies.

>>1968268
She'll probably be showing up a good amount considering she's a fairy and is apparently living under Reimu's house.

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>>1968851
In some aspects, this story line has been set back a bit. Because here we see Daiyousei hanging out at Cirno's igloo like nothing has happened. So either the Great Fairy War has not happened in this continuation or it has passed some time ago and all the involved parties have forgotten it.
So does Daiyousei know about Cirno and Luna hanging out together like was shown in WaHH? Or is that going to be ignored too?

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This dojin page reminds me of this MMD series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10pPmaesKrw

>>1968851
Who all does Reimu have living with her now?
Sukia
The inchling
Now a fairy from hell.
Plus the three fairies in a tree outside.

>>1969470
ZUN hardly considers Dai a character. Just compare the treatment her and Koakuma got compared to other midboss only characters like Momiji. Momiji is a boss in DS and gets her own profile in SoPM while the others just get small cameos. The two of them don't get backstory info in the EoSD omake text too. Hell ZUN even said that Dai doesn't really have a name in his former bulletin board. So I wouldn't get too worried about Dai, she's pretty much only there when ZUN needs a extra fairy that isn't Cirno or the three fairies of light.

The bulletin board in question
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/ZUN's_reply_to_messages_on_the_former_Gensou_Bulletin_Board_2

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Ship's log, stardate 1-2016. Year three of waiting for a new Cirno to Reimu's 1-2-3.

>>1968273
She got fed up with Junko and Hecatia's lovey-dovey antics and ran off, so now she's too embarrassed to go back.

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>>1969585

I stopped keeping up with it after Yukari got involved and things got all extra DRAMA-y.

I will say it was cute as hell though.

>>1969933
So now she just needs to find a nice girl who can make her into a woman herself, so she will no longer be embarrassed about her parents sexuality.

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Anybody here a fan of YuuAli or am I the only one?

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>>1970570
I'm more a YuuElly fan.

>>1970642
That ship seems weirdly popular here. There's at least a few posters always talking about it. I'm fine with any Yuuka pairing myself, the world needs more sunflower in general.

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Which 2hu would Yuu(ka) fuq?
Besides Wriggle, Elly and Alice.

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>>1971320
This was a nice surprise.

Consider your 2hu pairings.
Which of them made the first move?

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>>1971320

Yukka and Meiling is a nice fringe pairing I've seen here and there. Seems cute enough.

>>1971623

Well in this posts particular example Yuuka would definitely make the first move, initially just as a tease and moving onto something more serious later.

I like to imagine she comes to the Mansion occasionally just to boss Meiling around and to make sure she's taking care of all the garden's flowers correctly.

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>>1971623
Yuugi. Repeatedly. As long as it took for Parsee to realize she was actually serious about it.

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>>1969585
I will wait forever if needed

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>>1971623
Patchoulli, Alice is too tsundere

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>>1971623
>Consider your 2hu pairings.
>Which of them made the first move?
All of them? Well it'll be a long post.

>Meiling/Sakuya
Tough call. Lot of false starts on both sides before Meiling finally decides to damn the torpedoes, and then pic related.

>Marisa/Alice
Marisa, and she makes a huge spectacle of it, which sort of annoys Alice, and the whole thing devolves into a snarking match.

>Reimu/Yukari
Yukari says a bunch of stuff teasingly, but when Reimu actually takes her up on it she's pretty easily swept away.

>Yuugi/Parsee
What >>1971701 said basically.
Parsee isn't too good at the whole self-esteem thing (to Yuugi's confusion).

>Mokou/Keine
Keine. Mokou still has her issues with getting close to people, so it's up to Keine to pull her in.

>Yuyuko/Youmu
Youmu, because she's completely oblivious to Yuyuko's flirting until Yuyuko explains it to her later.

>Kanako/Suwako
I'd say the "first move" was Kanako invading Suwako's shrine, so I'll give that one to her.

>Yuuka/Elly
Yuuka. Because she's Yuuka, so she does what she wants.

I'm sort of curious, are any of /u/'s writefags in these threads?

>>1971752
How can a person's taste be so based?
Vivit Gray's Mokou/Keine doujinshis are the best.
Would only change it to Yuuka/Wriggle though

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>>1972415
>Vivit Gray's Mokou/Keine doujinshis are the best.
damn right they are
I never really got into Yuuka/Wriggle, though I see the reason for it.

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>>1971623
>TeruMoko
I just don't know.

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Damn you Vivit Gray, don't hit me out of nowhere with all those feels. I can't sleep anymore.

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>>1972585

Man I just can't do these stories that go this direction. Either through a timeskip where one of them has gotten old or where the relationship is put on hold because one or the other is worried about it eventually happening.

Just give me my happiness of the moment. Don't harsh my romance buzz with the morbid inevitability of death and decay I don't NEED this existential BULLSHIT in the middle of my girl on girl lovey doveyness.

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Am I a bad person for trying out all different kinds of pairings, even for a single character, for the purpose of creative pursuits and exercises?

With all of them being completely separate from one another of course.

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>>1971623
I like to think most Touhou relationships start (and end) in drunken hazes, so no one can really tell.

>>1972624
What if it's exactly what you need?

>>1972655

>What if it's exactly what you need?

I don't think I understand what you mean.

I mean sure some pairs work well to explore those kinds of concepts, doesn't mean the story needs to shift decades if not centuries into the future with one character dying/dead, after they've barely gotten to the point of "Hey, we're in a relationship now!".

At least give em a honeymoon before you start setting up a grave.

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>>1971623
Koishi, though I imagine both are just fumbling their way through it since they don't quite understand it.

>>1972653
I don't see the issue with it, myself, honestly. Can be nice to see what works/what others think works.

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>>1972624
>>1972662
Author is pretty great but some other stories are soul crushing too. Now I'm kinda scared to read more of them. Don't wanna get depressed for whole week.

Also this is Touhou. Let a Youkai or something bit Keine and make her immortal too.

>>1972624
It's sort of inescapable with Mokou pairings other than Kaguya, since immortality angst is such a huge part of Mokou's character.

The one that bugs me is when they do it to Marisa, since she's canonically done work on an immortality potion and may be trying to magician-youkai herself.

>>1972732
Yeah, Reimu's going to kill her if she tries it.

>>1972737
It's possible to fanwank that one way or another.

Kosuzu is painting a target on her ass, though.

>>1972720
>Let a Youkai or something bit Keine and make her immortal too.
Considering how the Hourai Elixir works, Keine could just eat Mokou's liver. Or, more likely, Mokou could retrieve Kaguya's.

(Though I suppose that would require Mokou setting aside her "immortality is a curse" mindset long enough to give it to someone she cares about.)

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[Tokai no Abaraya] Anata shika Mienai (Touhou Project) (game cg)
http://exhentai.org/g/898604/8d79d412d7/

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Clownpiece's life at Reimu's place.

>>1972653
Nothing wrong with that. Especially in this fandom where I doubt there will ever be canon relationships.
Even the obvious contenders like Miko x Tojiko or Suika x Kasen, both are likely married couples because of who they are based on, are unlikely to ever be confirmed.

>>1972737
This could be a reason she lives out in the forest away from the village.

>>1972405
Probably not, at least not openly.
Western writefags aren't much of a thing in Touhou.

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>>1972891

I've been trying to work on some things myself, but I don't have much experience in writing anything really so its been slow goings.

Mostly working through my own mental blocks is slowing down progress.

>>1972732

I get that its an inevitable thing with a bunch of the pairings (Meiling x Sakuya its very common as well), but its not like people in real life get together and immediately start thinking about the future where one of them is going to die first and the other is going to spend the rest of their years alone.

I'm okay with a story that explores those ideas and has the characters trying to deal with them, I just don't like it when it gets shoved into otherwise happy stories right at the end for that one last soulwrench.

>>1972891
I've done some stuff, not much recently, but I writefag semi-regularly for two other /u/ threads already.

And as you say, Touhou fandom isn't that big on western ficfags in general.

>>1972928
>Meiling x Sakuya
I liked that story where Remilia made them both into vampires. Mortality problem solved.

>>1972942
>both
Meiling's already a youkai, though.
But yeah, "Remilia turns Sakuya" is the obvious solution to any Sakuya pairing. Plus she's very much an outsider from the Gensokyo humans, so it probably won't bring down Reimugeddon.

>>1972944
>But yeah, "Remilia turns Sakuya" is the obvious solution to any Sakuya pairing.
The only really problematic ones are Keine and Reimu, because they don't have the obvious fixes.

Sakuya is turned, Marisa becomes a magician, Youmu's human half dies so she just becomes a full ghost, Sanae's already a minor deity.

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>>1972845
>Suika x Kasen
Those two have a history eh? I have more of a soft spot for Kasen x Reimu though.

>>1972949
Suika is based on Shuten-douji or Ibuki-douji, one of the more infamous oni in Japanese mythology. Yuugi is based on Hoshikuma-douji, one of Shuten-douji's closer subordinates, and per Touhou canon the two were part of the Oni leadership together.

Kasen, if the heavy implication that she's an oni proves true, would get her name from Ibaraki-douji, who in some stories is Shuten-douji's wife.

>>1972953
>Kasen is avoiding Suika now
Must've been a very bad breakup.

>>1972953
>heavy implication
Someone needs to scrape Wild and Horned Hermit for all the obivous "nudge nudge, know what I mean, say no more" moments and collage them or something.

I feel like there was at least one a chapter, though the Setsubun chapter had pretty much nothing but.

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>>1972977
Suika doesn't seem too angry with her.

>>1972953
>Kasen, if the heavy implication that she's an oni proves true, would get her name from Ibaraki-douji, who in some stories is Shuten-douji's wife.
To elaborate a bit more on this theory, the legend of Ibaraki-douji includes a rather crucial element: Ibaraki-douji is known to have lost an arm in a battle against a group of humans trying to wipe out Shuten-douji's band; after seeing Shuten-douji struck down, Ibaraki-douji fled and was the only survivor.

Ibaraki-douji then infiltrated the attacker's home in the guise of a human woman to steal back the severed arm. Sound familiar?

Man, all this speculation is flying over my head. Guess now's a good time to pick up WaHH.

>>1973016
WaHH and FS are both definitely worth reading. It's nice that ZUN is going for more plot in Touhou (without the clusterfuck that was SSIB).

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>>1972845
It would be pretty dumb if you could avoid the punishment for breaking a major taboo like that by moving away from the village for a bit.

>>1972891
There's some pretty good Western fanfics, though. This one seems particularly promising: http://archiveofourown.org/works/5843659/chapters/13468438

>>1973022
>It would be pretty dumb if you could avoid the punishment for breaking a major taboo like that by moving away from the village for a bit.
The thing with Gensokyo is that so much of it depends upon the perceptions of the humans in the village. The jinyou who Reimu executed was explicitly a normal citizen of the village before becoming a youkai, and said as much; Marisa, meanwhile, has been gone from the village for her entire adult life, so she's already something of an outsider. She's definitely not seen as a resident of the village.

Sure, it's basically conflict-avoidance fanwank but it's Touhou, all the powers already run on semantic wiggle room.

>>1972737
What would Reimu kill her? Just wondering, I barely touched the games, only read some stories.

>>1973022
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/5843659/chapters/13468438
>that renko and maribel art
I think I'm gonna vomit. No offense to UGL the guy's a consistently good writer but that art man.

>>1973030
Forbidden Scrollery, Chapter 25. It's not on Dynasty yet, but the gist of it is Reimu kills a newly-formed youkai who used to be a human villager. Not defeats, not out-spellcards, straight-out ice-cold public execution.

"In Gensokyo, a village human turning into a youkai is the most grievous sin of all."

>>1973033
Is it really bad when someone turns Youkai, or it's just stupid rules?

>>1973036
It probably has to do with keeping the humans separate from, and afraid of, the youkai. Youkai need human fear to exist, if all the humans become youkai, poof.

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>>1972944
>>1972947

The problem with Sakuya becoming a Vampire is that it just doesn't seem like something she'd want to do.

For starters she seems to prefer her place as a human (this is brought up in Imperishable Night when they discuss eating Mokou's liver), as though she wants to remain "below" Remilia.

There's also the fact that, being a newly turned Vampire, her long list of incredibly varied weaknesses would be turned up to 11 for at least a couple centuries. She'd have to rely pretty much entirely on Meiling or the fairies (ha) to do anything involving going outside during the daytime. She would also add to the number of bloodsuckers living in the Mansion, who may also need blood more often than Remilia and Flandre at first, which may complicate relations with the human village or whatever unknown food supply source they seem to have.

>>1973036

I imagine its more a matter of keeping the balance of things. They don't want the village humans turning into Youkai left and right because that'd fuck everything up. So she just slaps it down then and there.

>>1973043
>whatever unknown food supply source they seem to have.
WaHH pretty much confirms Yukari's feeding the youkai with humans from outside.

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>>1973043
That's probably why the doujin has Remilia do it to Sakuya against her will.

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>>1973047

Ah yes, of course.

This is where the awkward disconnect comes in between the cute animu girls being cute together, and the fact that many of them all eat human flesh on a daily basis. Its a bit of a balancing act to pull off.

>>1973052

Well that's just Remilia being shitty then.

>>1973022
>It would be pretty dumb if you could avoid the punishment for breaking a major taboo like that by moving away from the village for a bit.
The phrase "from the village" is pretty crucial as far as human/youkai relations go. In CILR Yukari specifically says that youkai won't eat humans "from the village". So possibly one can renounce village human status, but doing so makes you a target for youkai. Doing so after becoming a youkai isn't enough.

>>1973066
Wouldn't that imply that any youkai is free to kill Marisa?

>>1973070
Maybe. But then, she's second only to Reimu.

>>1973066
Does those cute girls really eat humans?

>>1973072
At fighting spell card duels, maybe. Gensokyo is full of beings who could easily crush her if they went all out. You'd think something like that would have been mentioned at least once in canon.

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>>1973043

I've personally been working with the idea that Sakuya actually drinks Remilia's blood and becomes a Ghoul in the Vampire: The Masquerade sense. It pretty easily explains the idea that she's been serving Remilia for a very long time, makes her aging a non-issue, and allows her to remain her humanity enough to still jive with the events after they arrive in Gensokyo. I've never even seen this idea explored anywhere else.

>>1973070
>>1973076

That's where things get kind of weird when you bring in the spellcard rules. Can youkai just attack humans without needing to mess with a duel? If they do duel and the youkai wins does that mean they get to eat the human? How do the youkai know the difference between humans from the outside world (that they're free to eat supposedly) and the humans from the village?

>>1973075

Its uh, really one of those things that's kind of implied and is part of the underlying basics of the setting, but its not really acknowledged very much and is yet to be shown at all.

>>1973075
As far as I know the only youkai who explicitly DON'T are Alice, Patchouli, and Byakuren (magicians don't need to eat at all).

The residents of Former Hell probably don't either (unless Yukari's dropping people in there separately from Gensokyo) since they were sealed off before SA.

Beyond that it's a question of how much you're willing to generalise from stuff Yukari says.

>>1973078
>If they do duel and the youkai wins does that mean they get to eat the human?
I'd assume this is how it works, otherwise why would there be a seperate clause for "you can't eat the village ones" beyond the (apparently universal, explicitly nonviolent) spellcard rules?

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>>1973075
It's... pretty heavily implied.

For all its light-hearted antics, Gensokyo is at its core a nature preserve for things that go bump in the night.

>>1973078
Sakuya's a strange case in general.

Don't forget, "Eirin is very surprised to see Sakuya, but only Eirin knows the reason why."

>>1973080
>>1973084
It's just hard to believe while reading some heartwarming stories that those blushing girls going kyaa and being afraid of confessing would have human snacks on the side.

But then there are probably some fucked up doujins out there too. I will just live in denial.

>>1973097

Well you have to consider the fact that these girls aren't humans to begin with, they aren't just cute girls in silly outfits living in the forest, they are monsters by design and the only reason they even get to do all their cute girl stuff is because Gensokyo is a wonderful place. Plus they've likely been alive and at it long enough that the idea of eating people isn't any stranger to them as eating cows is to you.

Its really only so jarring because roughly 98% of the fanon completely ignores that aspect of the setting and the other 2% goes maximum full ham on it to the point where its a main focus (See: Zounose. I love the guy's stuff but jesus shit dude reel it back a little).

>>1973082
The spellcard rules explicitly ban killing humans who lose, though.

>>1973130

So then what do youkai who win stand to gain other than getting to tell the human to piss off and/or get out of their way?

I've heard the theory that youkai are actually able to sustain their existence just by continuing to mess around with humans, like Kogasa, so maybe they don't all need to be munching on lost humans all the time?

>>1973043
I think I've seen doujins or fics that go with Sakuya using her space-time power to halt her own aging. That method should've been obvious from the start really.

>>1973142
I suppose the thing is that humans from outside Gensokyo are generally incapable of engaging in spell card duels, or even capable of conducting them, so the rule probably isn't overly restricting.

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>>1973225
Dammit, one of those was meant to convey that they wouldn't even know what spell card duels are. I'm going to bed.

>>1973084
Yukari is far too cute for a diabolical inhuman mastermind in those last two panels.

Don't forget that the only people Yukari sends over as human food are people who won't be missed in the outside world. Kasen and the others were very careful to make sure nothing bad happened Sumireko in ULiL because they knew there would be problems if someone in the outside world just disappeared. There are those that don't know Gensokyo's rule's though, the ones that cause too much of a mess get taken care of in one way or other by Reimu or other youkai.

>>1973084
I woudn't take anything troll-mode Yukari implies while trying to get a reaction from totally-a-real-hermit Kasen completely at face value.

>>1973097
>It's just hard to believe while reading some heartwarming stories that those blushing girls going kyaa and being afraid of confessing would have human snacks on the side.

Keep in mind that those stories are not canon. At all.

And not to get IRL but just look at humans. Perfectly able to go kyaa and blush, and then eat meat produced by really awful circumstances. Just look at how chicken is produced. Sure, it's fucking delicious, but the conditions there are horrible.

From a youkai's perspective, they're probably much more humane to humans than we are to chickens.

>>1973075

Not all explicitly need human flesh,it depends on the youkai type. For example, I'm pretty sure Kogasa just needs to dine on human fear/surprise.

>>1973349
The point she's making is true, though. That human flesh must come from somewhere.

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>>1973090

Oh yes, I remember that line quite well. And I hate it, because it will never be expanded on and will forever remain an obscure one-off line.

I've personally tried a few things with it, but its still annoying ZUN would lay down such a massive plot hook and never touch it again.

>>1973349
Yukari trolls really hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVh9bKGqQpM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFh05rQfpPU
She has essentially made Yuuka and Reimu's reputations.

What happens when Sakuya catches a cold and Reimillia tries to take her place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zp1SF0csfo

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Another morning at the Hakurei Shrine.

>>1973703
Eirin met Sakuya way back when, but Sakuya doesn't remember her. Eirin is surprised Sakuya is still alive, because as far as Eirin knew Sakuya was a regular human.

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>>1974276

That has to be the single most absolutely lamest possible theory I have ever heard to explain that line away.

Plus it doesn't really go with the way its worded, how it says "and only Eirin knows why", as though its a secret Sakuya is simply unaware of rather than something she doesn't remember happening. Course that could just be the translation.

>>1974196
Best new OT3.

>>1974727
How many major Touhou threesomes are there?

MariAliPatche, three fairies, tsukumogami trio... anyone else?

>>1974805
Three oni.
The Japanese like triad goddesses just as much as Indo-European's do.

>>1975049
There isn't that much Kasen/Yuugi, is there?

Though I suppose there's not much Kasen/Suika either.

>>1975367
There isn't much Kasen yuri, period. Pretty much every doujin with her in it is her being gangbanged. There's not even that much fanart - four pages on Danbooru.
It's honestly depressing.

But then again it seems the Touhou fandom already has one foot in the grave.

>>1975391
>it seems the Touhou fandom already has one foot in the grave.
There's still two conventions a year dedicated to solely Touhou merch, and it has three currently-running manga (one of which was just picked up for its fourth run).. I've seen a lot of things much, much deader than Touhou.

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>>1975391

Its not that Touhou is dead, its just that the yuri subgroup of it seems to be considerably smaller than it was in the fandom's younger years.

Could just be my imagination as I haven't really kept up with doujin that come out much, but it seems like the amount of yuri content in general shrunk way way down as the amount of normal porn content went up.

People also seem much less willing to discuss it as well. Posts on danbooru for example that go back a few years have a lot more people commenting on a yuri picture's content than they seem to now.

Ah well, not much point in worrying about it now. Not like its the first time terrible taste has won out, either.

>>1975391
Touhou manga/secondary material characters never really get as much attention as game characters. See also: the shameful lack of Kosuzu/Akyuu or Kosuzu/Mamizou. (The former suffers from this twice over.)

>>1975417
>Could just be my imagination as I haven't really kept up with doujin that come out much, but it seems like the amount of yuri content in general shrunk way way down as the amount of normal porn content went up.
I think that's less to do with the doujin artists and more to do with the people scanning the doujins. If you poke around on booru, for instance, there's a bunch of doujin previews/cover pages that have never been scanned.

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>>1975921

Ugh, that's easily the worst part about it all.

The idea that there's a massive amount of content I'll literally never be able to see because it was never scanned in the first place and never will be because they aren't even physically sold anymore.

All that yuri lost in time, like tears in rain.

>>1975391
>But then again it seems the Touhou fandom already has one foot in the grave.

Pretty much every fandom in existance wants to have one foot in the grave then, if this is "having one foot in the grave".

>>1968806
Nitori x my favorite nameless background kappa.
It's everything I ever wanted.

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>>1975966
Explain this ship

>>1972953
>Kasen was Suika's wife
I can't even imagine what their home life was like. Talk about "opposites attract".

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>>1976306
Both are put upon servants, often times get stuck dealing with shit from the rest of their respective households, one is a medic and the other is a hand-to-hand combatant which leads to plenty of cute things where one can play nursemaid to the other

Also, i personally like SDM character ships that include someone from outside the mansion since it could lead to plenty of cute 'Meeting the family' scenes.

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>>1976306
Some art was also made when it changed from the year of the rabbit to the year of the dragon

>>1976832
>Also, i personally like SDM character ships that include someone from outside the mansion since it could lead to plenty of cute 'Meeting the family' scenes.
My favourite ones for this are Remilia/Satori or Flandre/Koishi, because then it goes two ways.

>>1976306
This demand is pretty irrelevant on everything Touhou-related to be honest.

>>1976950
I'd disagree. Most Touhou pairings have some sort of basis, even if it's something as minor as back-to-back stages.

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>>1976832

There's also how its basically just a cute as fug pair without any sort of drama attached to them unless you start digging into the serious abuse material.

I've always thought of Meiling as a sortof lonely person. Always outside by herself either at the gate or in the gardens, with the occasional visitor to bug or berate her. Then with Reisen who has the rest of Eientei to be around, but tends to get a bit bullied by them on a regular basis, so the idea of her coming to visit Meiling who in comparison would just be a big ray of positive sunshine for her, just gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling.

Though a lot of my feelings on the pair is based mostly on my own ideas and character I've built up for the two so its kinda hard to describe it well.

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I like this pairing.