The constant switching between aspect ratios annoyed me. It wasn't like it switched for action scenes, it would switch for completely random shots for like two seconds, just like a character walking around.
We've had some frog threads where we made fun of descriptions such as "lovecraftian" and "kafkaesque", and then some autist decided to start spamming it in every thread. It got old really fast.
I love that the main girl in each consecutive movie is getting younger and younger. We started with Megan Fox, then that blonde one, then Nicola Peltz who was like 20, now an actual teen.
I know there was an adult love interest too but brown loli was clearly pushed more than her in marketing.
It felt like Bay decided "Ok this is definitely my last one I'm gonna just do EVERYTHING".
It was like three different movies crammed together into one incoherent mess of random shit.
Imagine being like a fan who tries to actually follow the plot of these films from sequel to sequel. There is zero consistency.
I would have watched the film if it was about Arthur & Merlin being saved by "magic" & the dragons,why didn't we get a film like that instead
>film makes a huge deal about vivian being the only one able to use
>never once uses it & get's it taken by prime toward the end
Bay is absolutely shameless. You almost gotta give him credit for how blatant he is
Transformers 1, 2, and 3 look like masterpieces compared to this shit, and they were all terrible movies (ok, I guess 1 was ok). Even at their best, they were dumb as shit, but still.
"Ok so get her in the little booty shorts, then we'll shoot right down her top. We want explosions in people's pants here"
>when the Air Force flies in and the theme starts
How do these movies manage to have non-stop action and explosions and yelling and yet be completely dull? They even had a totally wild premise to work from and hired some real actors, but still boring.
Transformers 1 was the only "good" one. Mainly because of the fact that on a technical level it was damn impressive. I mean, the very first shot of Black out transforming was fucking great.
See, this is what I call fantastic use of tech. The subtle moment when the real helicoptor is swapped out for the CGI one doesn't give your brain enough time to actually realise it is fake before it starts transforming, keeping the illusion that this thing is right there on location. The atmosphere, the music, the sound design. This scene is one of the best ones of this series.
IT'S A FUCKING KIDS MOVIE WITH ROBOTS TURNING INTO CARS AND SHIT!!! HOW FUCKING RETARDED DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO EXPECT REALISM?!?!?! IF THEY INTRODUCE FUCKING MAGIC IT WOULDN'T CHANGE SHIT!
>I have not been on /tv/ in several weeks.
I don't really know maybe because of IT (?) but I was calling the movie lovecraftian some time ago because of Cybertron and how it loomed over earth. Great shit if you ask me. I loved the movie.
Yes but you can still do it well, especially with that budget. The way the shots cut and swing constantly don't add tension to the scenes because it all just whizzes past you and nothing seems to matter. Even watching that vid of the helicopter transformer attack in the other post, it was so much better. They set up the scene with a good pace, shot it in a way that you could see what the hell was going on, who was in danger, all that stuff. It doesn't have to be high art, just competent.
Is that your first time watching a Transformers movie?
Welcome to IMAX
I mostly enjoyed it but Cogman was cancer, the climax was mindless noise (you can tell it's reaching rock bottom when Bay brings out the nameless grunts and murrica stronk) and it was at least 50 minutes longer than it needed to be. The opening sequence was unintentionally hilarious though.
Realism=/=internal consistancy, nor does it mean that it shouldn't make sense. You can have an unrealistic movie, what you can't have is one that doesn't make sense on a fundamental level.
As someone with an interest in post-Roman Britain and King Arthur this movie physically wounded me.
I laughed at this part.
this was one of the worst movies ive ever seen, and im a big fan of based michaels movies
but this was like a satire version of a ridiculous franchise
the storylines were all over the place, the pacing was horrible, the characters were disgusting and annoying, but that doesnt matter because you watch these movies because ofthe action
but even the action in this movie was unwatchable, cuts so fast you have no idea what happens, huge buildups for something that happens in 30 seconds
the fucking dragon looks dope as shit, but just gets 30 seconds of screentime. the dinosaur transformers are fantastic, but after one fight you dont see them ever again. MEgatron and his team get dramatic and long introductions, how theyre released from prison, shits getting serious. nope. they lose their first fight after like 30 seconds and are never seen again. till megatron shows up at the final battle out of nowhere.
The huge demon looking decepticon gets build up as to be the big bad boss of quintessas army, gets destrryed in seconds by bumblebee. quintessa is the final boss, optimus defeats her in seconds. and wow OPTIMUS GETS EVIL, like you just see him for the scene he gets evil because his eyes glow red, and then he comes to eath 2 hours later and after a 1 minute fight with bumblebee hes good again (his eyes glow blue again), because bumblebee speaks to him and so emotional.
and in the final battle i dont even know anymore where they are, but somehow theres an army of human soldies now, shooting a lot in directions, with giant metal stuff falling from the sky, but you dont get to see any enemies, minutes after these pointless USArmy-soldies-shooting-at-nothing-with-dramatic-music scene the bad guys show up out of nowhere and the dragon flies around doing stuff
everybody is just teleporting to different spots on the planet and things happen so fast, something explodes, marky mark yelling, dramatic music and in the next scene repeat and repeat and repeat...
While I appreciated it much more than 2-3 I was appalled by the final act and how anticlimactic it was despite the scale being off the charts. Also the movie is structured like 5 or so separated episodes put back to abck, each having a vague beginning-middle-end, making the whole thing weird to watch in one go.
>these pointless USArmy-soldies-shooting-at-nothing-with-dramatic-music scene
Literally murders all and any Transformers movie. Fuck you Fallen, fuck you Moon.
>another plot revolved around some ancient artifacts that buried under Earth, but this time is fifth time more ridiculous than before
>editing is all over the place, there are always a sudden cut to certain event without build up from anything
>the acting and dialogue are fucking atrocious
>The robot's CGI became much worse and worse, the movement felt unnatural compare to even the first movie
>Quintessa as the big villain was defeated like a douche
>lots of unnecessary slow-motion shot to make the scene look more ""dramatic""
>TRF crew just changed side after Marky Mark's statement about transformers being good
>Optimus just went evil for minutes and suddenly goes full Martha after hearing Bee's voice
>Unnecessary Suicide Squad-type introduction of some Decepticon, even though they just got defeated after that
>Megatron obviously didn't die again
>cringe attempt of """"comedy"""". First, that drunken melvin in the beginning was fucking horrible, and there's Marky Mark try to being witty in front of the love interest, but ended up being like an asshole
The only plus side I can find is how Bay still managed to create awesome gigantic set pieces
Thank God I pirated this shit
>tfw we will never get a transformers movie thats PG18 with just brutal war between autobots, decepticons, dinobots, dragons and the military, because they have to make money from selling toys
Watched it in the theater.
It needs better writers.
It got more than enough of plot elements to work as a decent scifi movie, but they just went and butchered it
Though I would give the director cut a change if there is any.
How is he so strong?
>haha you've come back Optimus I've been waiting for you
What if Optimus had come back with his entire crew? what was her plan then when everyone starts shooting her in the fucking face
I think they start these movies with a basic premise and a bunch of set pieces and big trailer moments and then they try to come up with characters and dialogue to tie it all together. So the actual story is an afterthought, and if the writers aren't very very good it ends up being shit. The whole thing felt like a 2 hour trailer for itself with all the epic action being shown in quick 1-2 second cuts and yelling and big dramatic lines.
Kill yourself shill.
No presence, no personality, job like shits.
Because the shit writers are scared that the movies won't sell without him. So they have him appear 5 minutes and be irrelevant to anything.
You get used to it fast.
Wahlberg and presumably Laura Haddock are out.
Josh Duhamel and Tyrese Gibson are confirmed to be back. John Turturro is also expected to show up. Jury is still out on Isabella Moner.
Zac Effron and either Cara Delevigne or Felicity Jones are rumored for the new lead roles.
Fuck off with this shit.
99% of the problems with the Transformers films have absolutely nothing to do with the central premise of "robot toys turn into trucks and fight".
They are all in the actual execution.
First Earth is just "the planet the Allspark crashed on, also Megatron since he was following it" and there's only a few transformers left and Cybertron is gone.
Then the second one there's some pyramid thing that can end the world or whatever that's on Earth for some reason and there's a robot heaven, also there's a completely random villain out of nowhere who is never explained who is Megatron's boss?
The third one there's ANOTHER ship and artifact stuff that's on the moon, and an evil prime, Cybertron is destroyed at the end and literally all the villains die because Bay obviously thought it was the last one.
The fourth one is just random shit happening, robot dinosaurs and spaceships. It didn't even have a plot. Was there yet another ancient artifact that was on Earth? I don't remember
I haven't seen the new one.
The fifth one has ANOTHER artifact on Earth and reveals transformers have been on Earth interacting with humans for like 1500 years and were just covered up til now.
Also it casually reveals Earth IS a transformer, and that's why everything happens there. Like this is just dropped in the middle of a conversation by the villain with no buildup.
They have King Arthur in 400 AD (explicitly called "The Dark Ages") complete with slow motion explosions, and everyone wearing middle ages plate armour, also a robot dragon. They are fighting some vague barbarian Warcraft looking horde of guys (supposedly Saxons).
I mean the only issue with what you said is the plate armor. 400 AD was right around the beginning of the Dark Ages and the rest of the shit is par for the course in this series.
Literally a Disney cartoon character brought to life
Question: When the escaped from the junkyard and the FBI or whatever are coming down the road, where the hell did that dinobot com from? He just appeared in an explosion on the road.
Wasn't Cybertron destroyed in the third movie? How was Bumblebee already on Earth in WW2 when he came to Earth on the first movie? Why is Prime so confused that Cybertron is dead when Cyberton dying was the reason he left in the first place.
ALSO WASNT CYBERTRON FUCKING DESTROYED IN THE THIRD MOVIE?
>Wasn't Cybertron destroyed in the third movie?
Nope. Just torn in two.
>How was Bumblebee already on Earth in WW2 when he came to Earth on the first movie?
He's already on Earth when the movie begins.
>Why is Prime so confused that Cybertron is dead when Cyberton dying was the reason he left in the first place.
It was ravaged by war, but not a cluster of fragments transversing the galaxy.
I hate when they do that "____ has actually been here forever" retcon.
The first movie clearly had it that the only transformer that was there for a long time was Megatron and he was frozen the whole time. Now suddenly transformers have been here for thousands of years and involved in like all of human history since.
>Wasn't Cybertron destroyed in the third movie?
Not all of it, but considering the planet is far smaller than what it used to be, it's possible that Quintessa just used what scraps of Cybertron was left over and tried rebuilding it. Maybe.
Literally who the fuck was the villain. They never explained her at all other than vaguely saying she apparently created the transformers? But then they implied she'd always been on Cybertron and Megatron and co knew her?
Then who was the villain from the second movie who was supposed to be Megatron's boss? Why was she never mentioned before now, and why did Optimus say he didn't know who his creator was in the fourth movie and leave at the end to find out?
Then it turns out it's just a random woman robot on Cybertron?
>The first movie clearly had it that the only transformer that was there for a long time was Megatron
No, it didn't. It didn't say that in any way. The second movie made it explicitly clear that Transformers had been on Earth for thousands of years.
Thank god they replaced White Katara. The new latina girl didn't do much in the film but she was fine, Katara is such a terrible actress that she can't even do basic Transformers eye candy roles.
are you cracking wise about my waifu anon
Tell me this;: What's up with Bumblebees voice? He can't use his own voice so he uses the radio. Cade installs a new voicebox(?) but it's a female voice so Bee rips it out and goes back to using the radio. When he fights Optimus he uses his real voice all of a sudden. How the hell is he able to use his own voice?
Ok, but why was she never mentioned before and why did Prime seemingly not know who his creators who last film, but then just flew to Cybertron to talk to her (or whatever the fuck he was doing)
She shat up Bates Motel too. A host of very good actors on that show doing very fine work, except for her completely emotionless ass being as wooden as possible. No surprise they wrote her out of the show in the second season.
also, they fixed his voice in the first film
there was no explanation for why he needs to talk with the radio from the second film on
or why Prime says he hasn't heard him speak since Cybertron, when he spoke at the end of the first film
>why were they never mentioned before?
Because they write the movies one at the time then decide to expend the universe with retcons.
>Why does Megatron apparently have like three different bosses?
Because he's a generic evil decepticon.
He's not a bad director because he lacks talent, he's a bad director because he gives so few shits about what he's making that he'll actively call characters shitty in interviews.
Biggest plot hole in all of the movies: People are literally right next to big fucking explosions all the time and all they get is a little dirty in the face. Also, they fall of buildings and shit and no one gets even a scratch.
When it comes to visuals Bay is one of the best in the business. He needs to give a shit who's writing his movies though
It you have 3 hours of your life to lose and you really really can't think of anything better to do, like pulling out your own toenails or covering yourself in shit, the answer would still be no.
It's coming but it's going to be animated.
Actually a good idea.
The only reason the first was decent was because of Spielberg's influence. After that Bay took over and everything went to shit while NONE of these wretched fucking shitstains will compare to the original 1986 animated movie!!!FACT!!! https://youtu.be/_9iab0z6Kyg
He was Wahlberg's partner, he was helping him look after all the transformers. Like everyone except Marky Mark and Bumblebee he vanished for the second half of the film until the climax.
literally all of them have the same plot
>Macguffin transforms Earth into a Cybertron-like planet, but wipes out humanity
>Autobots stop it
First it was a cube, then a pyramid, then a teleporter or some shit, then a bomb, and now a staff
the staff didn't transform the planet, the planet was already unicron, the staff was used to drain unicron of his power to prevent him from waking up and eating cybertron
do not know why his mandibles would move around because of pangea tho
>First movie and DOTM are better than your 1986 nostalgia wank fest
The first movie is remembered 30 years after it was released, without which Bayformers wouldn't exist. Also, in 30 year no one will give a fuck about any of these five fucking movies apart from millennial asswipes who think their childhood was "kino" and will never know the glory of the 80's. I'd feel sorry for you if you weren't soo fucking stupid, faggot!!!FACT!!!