What are some movies like this?

BvS

>>87769461
Spring Breakers

>>87769473
Everything by Snyder

>>87769461
Transformers

>>87769473
this

Rick and Morty

Interstellar

Starship Troopers

Movie 43

>>87769461

Every dirty harry movie

>>87769473

/thread

>>87769461
Movies that you think are dumb
Turns out you're the dumb one now

Gotcha bitch

Kung Pow

>>87769600
Actually the exact opposite.

The Pest and I'm not joking

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>>87769548
You're right
>Dude it was so epic when they fought in slo mo!
>What a senselessly violent (and racist) action movie
>Past its action scenes, I admired the themes of brotherhood, fighting to preserve ones nation, sacrifice, and integrity

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>>87769600
>>87769760
So you're saying it's more like this?

>>87769830
yes

>>87769830
Yes
Incidentally, reddit has the exact same curve

>>87769830
ye, in Interstellar case
dumb people will not understand it to enjoy.
middle will see few cool ideas to enjoy
too intelligent people will be annoyed by shitload of nonsenses and mistakes

aliens

>>87769878
>too intelligent people will be annoyed by shitload of nonsenses and mistakes
do you even have a degree?

>>87769830
Low IQ
>Durr I dun get it hurr
Avg IQ
>Black holes and basic math, I get it!
High IQ
>This is nonsense, there is nothing to get

>>87769461
Prometheus

>>87769925

You don't need a degree in astrophysics to understand that Anne Hathaway's speech about how love conquers all was awful, and for that be the actual explanation for the resolution to the plot was retarded.

>>87769825
100% this. Also like half of watchmen was like that. Everything else I've seen by synder was shit though

>>87770148
I liked the part where they needed to land on the much-time-dilation planet to figure out there is, in fact, much time dilation, after talking about how much time dilation there was.

>>87769825
>themes of brotherhood, fighting to preserve ones nation, sacrifice, and integrity
>intelligent

... son... These buttons have been pushed by every despot in history to justify his actions.

>>87770344
I hate how ships in sci fi movies (not books mind you) never have advanced optics on the ship. So many problems in interstellar would have been solved if their ship just had a goddamn telescope and spectroscopic analysis equipment. They'd be able to plainly see neither of the planets they visited were in any way habitable

unironically pain & gain

>>87769461
A Clockwork Orange

>>87769830
>the kubrick-nolan curve

>>87770375
What's your point? They aren't negative things.

>>87769473
based

>>87769825
>>87770375
How are those things "intelligent", you can apply to so many other movies

>>87769461
wall-e
idiocracy
Southland Tales

>>87770375

>being this of a brainlet
>not realizing if people had those virtues they wouldn't listen to the despot
>not realizing the lack knowledge of those virtues made the despot be able to pull the strings

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>>87772266
>>87771444
>>87771111

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>>87771444
>>87772266
>>87772322

>>87772322
hmmmmm

all these geniuses ITT.
also, dubs thread.

lel, you guys are so smart, too intelligent for girls too I assume.

>>87770742
>>87770344
>>87770148
>>87769925

Interstellar was an insult.
It's even worse when Leddit constantly praises it as sooooo sciency, when the only accurate thing that makes sense is the fucking black hole VFX. I feel like I'm surrounded by fucking idiots.

The Core.
Looks cool. Is physically stupid. Becomes fun figuring out the wrong physics.

>>87769473
this

>>87769473
are you seriously implying you need a high IQ in order to enjoy BvS?

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But are there any movies like this?

>>87770148
Fan theories provide explanations, but fans can explain pretty much everything given enough time. If film cannot do it then it is the film's problems.

>>87769830
Interstellar, Inception, The Fountain all fit

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The Evil Dead 2

The Evil Dead 3 is exclusively for dummies and The Evil Dead is for smarties.

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>>87773803
If you do this...

>>87773803
Fight Club

>>87773919
My dumbo girl friend had no clue what was going on and so didn't enjoy the film. "Why the hell would they be punching themselves?"

Fight Club is disqualified from that graph.

>>87769461
Bayshit

>>87772443
>Newton never got laid

it hurts

>>87769461

Every flawed, popular, but still good enough film like Forrest Gump or Gladiator follows this.

Plebbest of plebs love them
Cynical wannabe elitists but fail miserably plebs hate them because they think they're above them
Non-plebs come full circle and just say they're enjoyable and like them.

>>87773772
either that or a very low one

>>87769830
Idiocracy fits this curve pretty exactly

>>87772443
I'm not saying I'm smart, I'm just saying I don't have enough social skill to override my self-awareness and overly critical nature
it'd be great to be a more balanced person tho

>>87769925
Actually, yes, electrical/software engineering. I took a lot of physics in university. Interstellar is garbage.

>>87769500
nice

>>87773909
Avatar

>>87769461
The Terminator (1984)

>>87769825
>and racist

>>87769461
Big Trouble in Little China
>>87769830
The Dark Knight
>>87773803
The Empire Strikes Back
>>87773909
The Shawshank Redemption

The Office

>>87769461

Mad Max: Fury Road

>>87769953
was this post really necessary? do you think anyone was confused?

>>87769461
>I can't into graphs.
Do you mean movies that stupid and smart people enjoy equally?

The Shining
Fury Road
Fight Club
The Social Network
The Room / Troll 2
Rocketeer

>>87774566
That is what that graph implies, you fucking idiot.

(You) in the middle of the curve.

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>>87774566
Looks like you belong to the left of the graph, fucko.

>>87774448
Most racing movies, really

>>87774590
But I got it right, you cocksmoker.

>>87769500

This is the quintessential one

>>87774373
You said it all.

>>87773919
Fucking brutal

>>87769461
Escape From New York

Not a movie but The Simpsons in its golden era.

A show that had a lot of witty high-brow cultural references but also a lot of dumb sight gags.

in b4 sneed

>>87774715
But everyone likes Simpsons.

>>87774373
>Forrest Gump

most emotionally manipulative film i've seen, ironically in a very cynic way pulling very calculated heartstrings. You must really be on top of the bell curve to not see that.

>>87769473
I wonder if there are actual anons out there that believe the meme about BvS being good

>>87774715
sneed

>>87774373
It really disturbs me how many people are like this. Their whole persona is designed to blend in and preserve a safe identity. They don't even realize they are doing it. They will "dislike" things because they don't want to seem uncool.

I just realized that GoT fits the top graph.

>>87774767
Any group that keeps pretending to be retarded will inevitably attract the very people they mock, or however it was originally phrased.

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>>87769621
yes

>>87774767
Of coursh.

idiocracy ironically

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>>87769473
>>87769500
yes yes very good but....

>>87769621
this one is even better of an example

>>87769621

this

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>>87774822
Fuck off

>>87769925
I agree with him, and yes I have a degree in theoretical physics.

Scarface

>>87774936
i have a degree in actual physics and i disagree

>>87774936
>>87774965
I have a theoretical degree in physics and I agree

>>87769621
unironically came here to post this

there is a political divide on the IQ/Enjoyment graph though

Left wingers are high IQ and realize the movie is clearly satire

Right-wingers are usually rural and suburban retards (on the left of the curve and they treat the movie as an instruction manual.

>>87775018
This but unironically

>>87769600
you're on the left and think you are on the right

>>87774936
>>87774468
>>87774965
>>87774994
I have a dual degree in Women & Chicano studies and I agree as well.

>>87774863
this is a tricky one, medium smart people like looking down on people so they enjoy it too. Dumb people just like the gags and "smart" people like the irony, everyone can like it regardless on where you land on the curve

>>87774965
I have had an amateur interesting astronomy since I was a kid and I daren't venture into /v/'s dumpster fire of space threads

I also agree

>>87769925
1) Stupid plot
-Government agency throwing billions of dollars at some wormhole near saturn that is whoknowswhat instead of researching technology to repair the atmosphere which is MUCH more simple
-Dust-eating farmer chosen one thing, "last hope 4 human race!"
-anything loosely resembling time travel wrecks plot cohesiveness, movie contains a blatant paradox plot hole

2) Poor characters
-all of anne hatheway's acting
-main character loves his daughter but neglects his son and it's weird and awkward
-random redshirts floating around the periphreal that aren't fleshed out character-wise
-characters are rushed because of all of the time shit going on and it's difficult to connect with them when people are flipping around and changing and dying of old age and stuff left and right.
-general emotional detachment and pointless romantic content butting it's head in a sci-fi save all of humanity flick is always bad

3) SHIT SCIENCE, it's apparent nobody with even a high school level of cosmological understanding even looked at this movie during development, wrecks suspension of disbelief for anyone who understands the basics
-massive list of problems arising from going anywhere near the event horizon of a black hole, let alone actually entering the event horizon.
>not being converted to energy at event horizon
>ignoring that bit of physics, not becoming a timeless point after entering the event horizon
>oh nvm it's just a magic timescape connected to some random farmer's house on earth w/e
-time dilation issues involving planets that make absolutely zero sense as far as mass and gravity are concerned
-time dilation issues involving black holes that make absolutely zero sense as far as mass and gravity are concerned
-time travel paradox
-everything understood about the hypothetical existence of wormholes is shat on by this film. Also, we, somehow, made the wormhole ourselves, somehow, in the magic timescape, or something.

5/10, 100% average movie. Not good.

>>87775018
>you don't get it... it's a satire!
mid-level intelligence spotted

>>87775063
t. middle of the curve

>>87775067
>I have had an amateur interesting astronomy
An interest in amateur astronomy*

I'm going to fucking sleep, lads

>>87769461
Scarface
>haha Tony Montana so quotable
>nothing special about thia flick
>80s aesthetic at its best, visually great, era defining

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Any blaxploitation film really

>>87769621
perfect

>>87774863
>>87771444
see
>>87769830
>>87774404

>>87774767
So I assume you're in the middle section of the curve, right?

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>>87775076
>main character loves his daughter but neglects his son and it's weird and awkward
That's because the future is female, you fucking pig. Men aren't needed in the future because they're all brainless rapist apes who are unable to think beyond their own dicks or egos. Women are simply better than men at science and math because they have better organizational and focus skills. Deal with it, loser misogynist.

>>87775109
Probably, feel free to explain your own brilliance tho

>>87775109
not him but idiocracy relies on "omg so true" appeal that doesn't really land with actually intelligent people, who find it to be such an unrealistic projection of society and the future that they don't care.

>>87775153
Black Dynamite fits OP's curve pretty well now that I think about it.

>>87775145
this 100%, Tony Montana is the ultimate American antihero

>>87775194
she has nice breasts

>>87770317
Watchmen is a great example.
>Woah, this movie is hella fucking epic! Look at that giant explosion!
>This movie is extremely flawed and pales in comparison to the comic book. Plus, the ending makes no sense from a global standpoint.
>While I admit that some aspects of this movie are flawed renditions of the comic book, this is the best adaptation of a comic book of all time, and possibly the greatest superhero movie of all time. Zack Snyder's vision, art style, and dynamic sense bleeds through every frame of this gorgeous sensory masterpiece.

>>87775470
>this is the best adaptation of a comic book of all time, and possibly the greatest superhero movie of all time
lmao imagine being this middle of the curve

>>87771444
I was just about to put Idiocracy.
Not many see it as a double edge satire

>>87775055
I have a degree in Political Science and I haven't seen the movie.

>>87770742
How would looking at a planet with extreme time dilation through a telescope work? Would you see events unfolding in extreme slow motion?

>>87775562
you are in the center of this graph: >>87769830

>>87769825
If you want to feel intelligent about 300 then forget the "themes" and just keep in mind that the film serves as an introduction to the concept of an unreliable narrator. The story is pro-Spartan propaganda being told by a Spartan character (Dilios) to hype up his troops before another battle and he was not even present for many of the scenes he describes. This is why the story is so over the top.

>>87775343
She is not for lewd.

>>87775571
Oh anon...

>>87774425
>>87774319
damn sorry guys. wishing you good luck in life

>>87774644
Fuck yeah, bud. Tokyo Drift is a great flick. Hell, all fast and furious movies since it have been solid, fun action films.

>>87773909
Repo Man

>>87775571
>tfw this guy is so left of the curve he's in my taskbar

>>87775535
OK, wise guy, what's your top pick?

Would you trade 10 points of IQ if you could lose your virginity?

Idiocracy entertains smart people if they have children, don't take themselves too seriously, or work in a bureaucracy.

Idiocracy fails to entertain smart people if they don't have children, take themselves too seriously, or have intelligent coworkers and don't fully appreciate how stupid most people are.

>>87775018
I can forgive right wingers for liking it unironically. Verhoeven replicated fascist propaganda masterfully, and while he did slip in lots of things that subverted that message he also wanted to keep Rico's journey into fascism realistic and sympathetic. The things in the film that hint at a darker subtext are to a genuine authoritarian just the cost of doing business.

>>87775640
>>87775683
Sorry, just asking... sorry to bother you

>>87769830

American Beauty

>>87775600
I'm not a fan of the movie tho

>>87775704
I don't think you can can be on the right side of the curve if you like capeshit unless it's out of irony.

Name me one (1) capeshit that it's enjoyable unironically in its own right movie because of an intelligent plot and clever dialogue. Name me one intelligent superhero movie.

Any capeshit movie that intelligent people like will inevitably be liked because it has a "so-bad-its-good" quality that's easy to enjoy ironically, not because the movie is actually good.

Arguing over what the "highest-ranked" cape-shit movie is like arguing over what pile of dogshit looks the prettiest.

>>87775640
>>87775683
What's actually funny is that you're the middle curvers here.

>>87775787
Absolutely gigantic space-borne telescopes can be constructed, in theory, with bullshit sized apertures. They don't have to be one solid object to be effective, so they can span space the size of Earth's orbit, if the pieces are positioned properly. I can't find the wiki link right now. This isn't some sci-fi shit either or anything even remotely on the scale of a dyson swarm, which is probably what you're imagining.

>>87775754
>smart
>not taking yourself seriously
The problem with Idiocracy is that a normal person looks down on the characters and setting for being beneath them and this reminds them of the imbeciles in their life, but an intelligent person looks down on the writers for their sloppy projection of society that is undeserving of the praise many give it, and this reminds them of the pseudointellectuals in their life.

>>87773772
Damn you just revealed where you fall on the graph.
ITS GONNA TAKE SOME TIME

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>>87769830

>>87775925
But you didn't answer his question. Anon...

>>87775874
>Name me one (1) capeshit that it's enjoyable unironically in its own right movie because of an intelligent plot and clever dialogue. Name me one intelligent superhero movie.
Batman Returns

>>87775925
The ones you called "middle curvers" thought the original anon meant "a planet with extreme time dilation," while you interpreted the original anon to mean "time dilation between the telescope and the planet." I'm guessing the original anon is retarded and the other two correctly read what he intended.

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>>87769461

>>87769621
>>87769600
>>87770792

These ones are false. They start dipping again at the very highest intelligence levels.

>>87775018
The book is on the recommened reading list of US marine captains and is clearly redpilled. The part about force being the ultimate authority etc. The movie was made as a campy thing.

>>87774830
this is the bane line i always wanted to see meme'd thank you anon

>>87776034
Hot garbage, Jack Nicholson was a horrible Joker

>>87773961
Women don't count in regards to this thread dude

>>87775988
Fuck, I guess you're right. Where I was going with that is that such a telescope can take pictures with incredibly high resolution. And then you have the techniques you can use to create pictures of even higher fidelity from that, those are being employed today as well.
You could take a look at the planet like that (possibly). It would appear to be in slow-motion for you.

>>87776042
Guess I'm the left curver here. Sorry lads.

>>87775754
I'm starting to get the impression that Idiocracy highlights how people with average intelligence look down on everyone around them. They have enough intelligence to recognize stupidity but are not self aware enough to consider criticism towards them.

>>87773811
actually I'd say Inception follows a sideways S curve once you figure out (or read about) the hidden plot

>>87776063
Starship Troopers is campy enough for this to not be true. But interstellar and a clockwork orange start dipping wayyyy before the highest levels of intelligence. Even a decent education can ruin interstellar for people.

>>87775959
>not taking yourself too seriously
I've noticed a lot of smart people tend to plateau in their personal development when they start to think too highly of themselves. I'm sure it's just anecdotal.

>>87776155
Anon oh no...

>>87775987
Ok how?

>>87776117
Good thing that movie didn't have Jack Nicholson then you silly homosexual.

>>87776212
Don't you dare bully me, mister.

>>87776182
lol you are pretty clearly clueless just from the way you type

>>87775959
Smart people don't take everything dead seriously, they can joke about the absurdity of it all.

>>87776160
I agree with this.

>>87775018
>Right-wingers are usually rural and suburban

>retards

hmmm

>>87776042
Original anon here. What I meant was that if there were extreme time dilation between the planet and the optic (as there was between the Endurance and Miller's planet in Interstellar) what would you see through the telescope if you pointed it at the planet?
In addition, why is there significant time dilation relative to the ship on Miller's planet? They're the same distance from the black hole, which is where the gravitational anomalies are situated, and the water planet seems to have the same gravitational pull as Earth.

>>87769825
Low IQ
>300 is badass af bro. The few stood up against the many and even though they lost the battle, they won the war! Hoo-Ahh Murica fuck yeah
Medium IQ
>300 is racist. It's about white MEN killing People of Color to keep their society "pure" even though it's full of toxic masculinity. The Persians are an obvious metaphor for Muslims, the religion of peace, and the movie gay way for the fascism of Drumpf.
High IQ
>300 is a brilliant satire. Persia is not a placeholder or modern day Iraq, it is modern America, an enormous racially-diverse superpower with loose morals that picks on small Mediterraneans nations to access their resources. Xerxes is Obama. Because it is framed as a story told by a campfire the night before battle, is ultimately a story about the power of propaganda.

>>87769461
My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic

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>>87769970
Covenant was awful and still better than Prometheus.

Covenant has some nice ideas but it's all caged in shitty writing and horrible highschool slasher mechanics think Friday the thirteenth, to drive movie and kill crew.

I ctually made 2 imdb accounts just so I could rip that shit movie to shreds in the hopes Scott sees them and comes to his senses. I heard he was planning 3 more of them so...

Fucking Frames Jancko and that other comedian... really?

>>87776191
I think you're confusing STEMfags with smart people. People of high intelligence take their ontological and epistemological foundations very seriously and advance their understandings of these concepts as much as possible because that's the most logical first step after figuring out that you exist.

>>87776299
Kill yourself.

>>87776261
>tripfag
>talking shit about an anon

>>87769461
Is horseshoe theory really true?

Are < 85 IQ people patricians because they like the same movies as >130 IQ people?

>>87774822
No, GoT has gotten objectively worse as time has worn on. Only enjoyable aspect is the production value, and even that's taken a hit so they can throw more money into the CGI budget.

>>87776268
>Absurdism
>Intelligence
I have the knowledge that I cannot have knowledge aren't I smart guys?

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>>87769461
This one, for real.

>87776261
Not an argument. No more (you)s for you.

>>87776279
>the problems of the world can be solved by using common sense that only I possess

>>87776289
Read my post you nigger.
>>87776155

>In addition, why is there significant time dilation relative to the ship on Miller's planet?
Because the science in this story is fucking garbage, don't worry about it. A shitton of things don't make any sense in this fucking story, including, but not limited to - a fucking black hole that's (through a wormhole) next to fucking Saturn and everything is fucking okay.

>>87772585
>Interstellar didn't make sense to me, so it's everyone else is dumb
Imagine being outsmarted by a Nolan movie

>>87776304
It's the opposite.

>this is just some kid's show>the writing is decent and the morals are more nuanced than the shows they had when I was a kid>It's still just a kid's show, bored now

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>>87776365
>implying anyone cares about the philosophy usage rather than its usage as a general term
>implying you aren't a faggot philosophy major who spouts shit nobody cares about
philosophy is for faggots who can't do integrals

prove me wrong

>>87776409
Not him but you brought "solving world problems" out of thin air and this makes you look retarded.

>>87774535
Shawshank is perfect for that its so generally enjoyable to everyone

>>87776287
>>87776287
Yes, city people are more intelligent.

City people are all high IQ and voted for Hillary.

Rural and suburban retards voted for Trump.

>>87774946
Agreed. Very existential content when he gets what he wanted.

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>>87776445
I gotta hand it to you, you really got me good, anon.
Here's your well-deserved (You) because you actually got me riled up. Good job, unironically.

If you're actually serious though, I'm sure the internet, and yes, even this very thread, can help you with realizing that the science in that movie is a fucking flaming dumpster fire. But I choose to believe you are not.
Still got a pretty intense reaction out of me though. Fuck. I haven't been had like that for a long time.

>>87776474
No
I was adding to this >>87776160

>>87776155
So I was right then. Why the fuck were those autists pretending I was stupid?

>>87776592
The curve, anon.

>>87776460
It's usage as a general term is synonymous with it's philosophical usage in this context. Someone who observes their surroundings and concludes absurdity to any level isn't even trying to apply critical thinking.

Science is underneath the umbrella of philosophy, and is grounded entirely in philosophical concepts. Integrals are a component of logical systems, which are methods of epistemology.

>>87776453
I disagree. The show has a tendency to attract the worst autists on the internet, but true patricians secretly enjoy it in the privacy of their homes. Average minds are put off by the autists, and unlike patricians, they don't recognize it for the true kino that it is.

>>87776513
ah i see, thank you for clarifying anon

>>87776573
Yes, the post that has nothing to do with solving world problems.

>>87776063
I literally hate you

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Films like this?

>>87776827
too bad that Master and Commander and Predator both have slivers of female screentime.

>>87776354
Cinema is a sensory medium. Low IQ people can appreciate the cinematography, editing and sound design on a subconscious level. They are able to find the truth in the subtext without looking for it, because they feel it. They don't turn off their brain, it is always off, they watch with their heart.

Pseudos on the other hand, fixate on logic, rationality of character decisions, complexity of plot, verbal humor because they are ego-driven and want films to validate their belief in being more intelligent than others. They look for "deep meaning" on the surface. If a movie is about stupid people, it's a stupid movie, if the movie depicts racism without explicitly condemning it, the movie is racist. No room for ambiguity.

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>>87776629
>Science is underneath the umbrella of philosophy
this is what philosophy majors ACTUALLY BELIEVE

>>87776913
>smart people are racist
Hi /pol/!

>>87769621
came here to post this

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>>87769461

>>87769461
i don't get it, yo get dumb in the middle of the movie and then you get smart again?

>>87776916
>philosophy isn't the basis of all modern academics

The absolute STATE of STEMfags.

>>87777001
this guy is on the right side of the curve

Robocop

Total recall

Starship troopers

Lucy

>>87776967
Hi middle curve!
I am speaking of directors like Scorsese, Verhoeven, Snyder who are accused of racism or other prejudice because characters in their films may be guilty of that. You can be smart enough to identify racism in Taxi Driver and be too dumb to get that Scorsese is not justifying it.

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>>87777107
>philosophy isn't the basis of all modern academics
my fucking sides, do you really want to pretend post-modern bullshit really has anything to do with actual science and mathematics?

pic related is what actual academics think of your "field"

>>87776916
It is literally impossible to develop a method that attempts to derive knowledge without conducting epistemology. The scientific method is literally a form of epistemology. This isn't something philosophy majors or proper scientists believe, it's simply something they are aware of.

Ironically I actually majored in biochemical engineering.

>>87777154
t. /pol/tard

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>>87777259
>le cherrypicked quotes
Einstein was an atheist.

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>>87776916
Science was literally instituted as "natural philosophy". The history of science makes for some good reading.
Did you know an angel gave Rene de cart the idea to use measurement and form to master matter?

The true mid-curver is the reddit atheist reductionist autists who can't grasp concepts and truths beyond numbers and formulas.

>>87777214
>all philosophy is postmodernism

Remind me what PhD stands for again.

>>87777107
American education :)

>>87777310
>calls other people middle curver
>can't even spell Descartes correctly

>>87777289
You are the one who brought up "actual academics" opinions of philosophy, so I posted some. And if Einstein was an atheist(he actually believed that the universe had intelligent design behind it, by the way), I don't really see how that would support your argument in any way.

>>87777346
>he thinks he can get a PhD in philosophy these days without spouting post-modernist neo-Marxist bullshit
MY
SIDES

>>87777429
What do institutionalized pieces of paper have to do with the entirety of the pursuit of human knowledge and understanding?

>>87777416
Name one thing you can do with philosophy degree that isn't being a repulse smug hipster woman/numale sitting in Starbucks with a macbook and a latte

Philosophy majors can't even do integrals. Even Engineers can do that.

>>87777395
Dude, it's a chan, not a research paper. I'm not gonna bother with french spelling while I'm about to fall asleep.
Glad you agree with the rest though.

>>87777478
You were the one who brought up PhDs, you left-curver.

>>87777514
Why are you talking about pieces of paper? I'm talking about philosophy and the foundations of science. I don't care about what piece of paper gets you what job and I don't see how that's relevant at all. Babbling.

>Philosophy majors can't even do integrals.
Integrals are literally an epistemological method.

>>87777514
We aren't arguing the use of a college degree here, little middlecurver.

>>87777552
No I didn't. You're confusing me with another anon who's telling you that you're wrong. And ironically, he wasn't even discussing the relative pragmatism of a degree, that's something you pulled out of thin air.

>>87777605
>>87777586
see >>87777552

>>87777346 brought up PhDs so I responded. Brainlets can't follow a simple conversation so they move the goalposts I see.

>>87777638
>he wasn't even discussing degrees!
Actually, yes, he was, he brought up PhDs in >>87777346

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What are some movies like this?

>>87777429
Stop watching so many jordan peterson videos

>>87777735
I knew about the post-modernist menace far before Jordan Peterson.

>>87777655
>>87777698
What does a piece of paper have to do with it's relative pragmatism to society or the entirety of the pursuit of human knowledge and understanding? These are the questions you were asked, nobody said that PhDs weren't brought up by someone other than yourself.

>>87777698
Did you even read the post you are responding to?

>>87777850
>moving the goalposts this hard
Someone brought up philosophy PhDs, I made fun of it as a credential and now you're getting all butthurt trying to pretend that nobody was talking about PhDs.

typical

>>87777914
Well, the irony here is that we are discussing the field of philosophy and it's legitimacy, and you are trying to move the discussion into the relative pragmatism of degrees, which is literally moving goalposts.

Probably to distract from the fact that you embarrassed yourself by pretending that integrals and science were not underneath the umbrella of philosophy.

>>87776513
IQ is genetic and can not be trained, so a rural can be as smart as a city guy
Cities have higher IQ on avg only because intellegent people have more opportunities in city, doesn't mean in any way that they have voted for Killary
and no, there were shittiones of city people who vote for Trump

>>87769461
Family Guy, South Park
Borat, Grimsby, the Dictator
Clerks
Clockwork Orange

>>87769621
>Brainlets just see it as a fun movie
>Middling people see it as satire
>Intelligent people see it as masterful propaganda, even though it badly attempted to be anything but

>>87769461
Intelligence has nothing to do with your enjoyment of film. It's entertainment, nothing more.

>>87777984
Integrals aren't philosophy.

If it were true, philosophy majors would be able to do integrals but they can't.

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>>87777914
You said academics think philosophy is silly, someone pointed out that academical terms recognize philosophy as an intrinsic field, you started ranting about the use of degrees to try and cover up the shit running down your leg.

>>87778049
What does the use of integrals set out to achieve?

>>87777914

I'm the one who made the PhD post, let me spell it out for you: PhD stands for "Philosophy Doctor", the point is that even hard science post-graduates are given that title because philosophy ("love of knowledge") is what all formal academics is based on.

>>87775076
>He's too autistic to understand basic science-fiction
Wew lad did you honestly believe a move about how love saves the day was actually hard sci-fi. Bet you complain about the science of Star Trek too.

>>87778127
>philosophy ("love of knowledge") is what all formal academics is based on.
Wrong.

>>87778087
>out that academical terms recognize philosophy as an intrinsic field.
Use because they use the word "philosophy" doesn't mean philosophy is respected on the same level as math or science, quit deluding yourself brainlet.

>>87778146
Star Trek is fun and campy, and explores a wide arrange of scientific concepts, some of them silly and unrealistic but others actually quite advanced.

Interstellar is a science fiction concept drama that has stupid science fiction, stupid drama, and no redeeming qualities.

>>87775680
The musical or the movie with jude law, because the movie was eh and ending is just shit.

>>87778153
Okay, then what is it based on?

>>87776827
The Thing

>>87769562
>>87769678
>>87770987
>>87773750
>>87774894
>they think they're on the right side of the figure

>>87778153
How is any form of knowledge not based in epistemology and ontology? That's literally impossible by the definitions of the words.

>>87778189
Math and science are based in philosophy. Mathematics are a logical system, requiring an axiomatic foundation and abstractly defined metrics and numeral bases. Science is a method of epistemology.

>>87778297
>Math and science are based in philosophy
Wrong.

>>87778325
Sorry trigger your CD.

>>87778325
Then what are they based in?

>>87778352
Wrong.

>>87778325
Not the guy you're replying too but your a retard. Philosophy is not people in tweed jackets tossing each other off over how smart they are, it's the foundations of any system of logical thought.

>>87778428
>Philosophy is not people in tweed jackets tossing each other off over how smart they are,
That's exactly what philosophy is.

>>87769830
Lord of the Rings trilogy.

>>87769461

The Matrix

ITT: Dumb people that think they are bright arguing over philosophy and science

Lmao good show OP. You really can get a bunch of people riled up with a simple graph huh.

Also the only real, TRUE answer to OPs question is the room

>>87778495

more like game of thrones, lord of the rings is definitely OP image

>>87769473
fpbp

>>87776513
> ghetto nigger
> high iq
yeah ok

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>>87776073
>Using the Marine Corps as a signifier of high intelligence

>>87776073

>force being the ultimate authority

maybe it's true because everyone in the military believes in that

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>>87777991
>Cities have higher IQ on avg only because intellegent people have more opportunities in city, doesn't mean in any way that they have voted for Killary
Um, actually yes it does sweetie

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>>87776299
>2006 film
>About Obama's presidency

Are you saying Miller/Snyder can see the future?

>>87773803
Abbas Kiarostami

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>>87769554
This

also want to add Black Dynamite

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>>87779197
>2016 film
>told the story of an eccentric billionaire with funny hair(who inherited and expanded his company from his abusive German father) who fooled the American government and media into giving him enormous amounts of power against an immigrant boogeyman

Yes, Snyder is a prophet you middle-curve trash

>>87776320
This desu

>>87776475
I fucking hate that movie.

>>87776827
Predator

>>87776299
>>87769825
>Because it is framed as a story told by a campfire the night before battle, is ultimately a story about the power of propaganda.
i don't understand why this is completely missed in the wide conversation about the movie

snyder himself talks about it in interviews

>>87774767
>BvS
>meme
You've been tricked pleb

>>87777777

>>87778009
>tfw brainlet

>>87775018
>>87775038
Starship Troopers is leftist bullshit that tarnished and insulted the book it was adapting. Its the type of treatment that you can only expect from neurological leftists.

>>87776967
It's funny because that is true. That's what makes leftists so contemptible. They should know better but they still want massive third world immigration, and believe in marxism.