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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJMwBwFj5nQ

Is he overrated? I think people say stupid things about him like that he would be champion in MMA or that he was so strong and so dangerous. He was just a clever, cultured guy with good body and martial arts, nothing more. And good martial arts actor. I hate when people make people gods only because they die young.
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He did have insane reflexes, though.
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Funny how thousands of people die young every single minute and almost no one is made a "God" by popular culture.

The exaggerated stuff about his abilities is just a way for a limited brain to process the fact that the guy has a special aura about him.

Rational-materialistic brains need rational-materialistic explanations for why they idolize someone. Those are made after the fact.
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Can't deny that charisma.
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why did bruce marry a white girl?
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>>87662259

Whatever you say.
But when I hear word "legend", I think of Bruce Lee immediately and I am not the only one. And when I look videos, like the one you posted, I remember why. Magic is still there, time decided not to touch it.
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>>87663389
You're asking why a good-looking athletic rich guy living in California married a white girl?
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>>87662259
I don't believe the bias accounts concerning his physical strength. The way it's described, it sounds like Lee was literally superhuman and that pound-for-pound, Lee was as strong as man three times his weight and size. It just sounds like urban folklore.
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ehs a prety cool guy
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>>87662259
People who die at their prime always end up as legends. Imagine if say Eddie Murphy had died in the 80's or Johnny Depp had died in the late 90's. They'd be legends now too
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>>87662259
>He was just a clever, cultured guy with good body and martial arts, nothing more. And good martial arts actor.

That's why he's a legend. He made martial arts popular again. He also promoted fitness before Arnold came along but he had the benefit of being very well read and philosophical which only boosted his image. In a lot of ways he reminds me of Ali - an extremely capable athlete with strong convictions and a talent for talking. The decades since his death mythologized his achievements but not to an extreme degree: he still did most of the stuff people say he did.
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>>87664054
Also forgot pic, my favourite Bruce story
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>>87664103
Great quote.

cheers
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>>87664103
>>87662259
absolutely based
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>>87663960
Like Heath Ledger
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I'm seeing a 35mm print of Enter The Dragon tomorrow.
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>>87662259

the asian Arnold, body builder & charismatic. seemed wise for his age & occupation
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>>87664103
>peak of athletic abilities
>preaches about not putting limits on yourself
>only runs 5 miles
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bruce lee could karate chop a 300lb concrete laced punching bag so that it swing up and hit the ceiling. he could also do two cock pushups.
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He beat the fuck out of Chuck Norris on the regular. I like this slope for that alone.
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>>87662259
He probably would have done pretty well in mma. His reflexes and technique were quite good.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VHUDy7_wfZ8
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>>87664791
heath ledger is not a legend he did one good role and he only became super popular because women fancy him
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>>87664941
could he be a normal height?
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>>87663332
>>87663298

The only people that think bruce lee had any charisma are people that don't know the chinese

the chinese business men use the same body language of bruce lee, they try to sell you whatever bullshit in every way possible

The thing is that, people who think bruce lee was some kind of god, are the same people that don't have any fighting training in the first place, bruce lee NEVER attempted to prove himself in a fight, not even sparring (which is laughable because all martial arts do thousands of sparring sessions to refine their techniques, bruce lee has not even ONE footage of sparring), also bruce lee trained his body just for showing off purposes, he did laughable routines with dumbbells and with zero preparation for fighting (he didn't train his neck, a must for any fighter)

There is a footage of him punching and kicking a heavy bag and it's laughably bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aObGLTfJa1w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf3j_X_FopY
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>>87662259

Basically the Godfather of MMA. Also would be win in an MMA match? Probably not. His back was fucked up. If it was a street fight though he'd have a good chance vs just about anyone who ever lived.

People worry to much about MMA but even though that is closer to a real street fight it is still not the same. For 15 seconds in an anything goes no pads fight he would be lethal.

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>>87662259
He's cool but he literally only has one good movie.
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>>87665110
What body language?
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>>87665176

like an asian nigger trying to sell you drugs, moving their heads with asian swag, like some deep oriental yakuza shit
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>>87662259
Small, lightning quick and powerful with top level martial arts. He even created his own MA. Obviously he would need 2 train MMA, but yes potentially he could have been championship level. We will never know thou :(
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>>87662259
Dat last smile. Charming and hot af
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>>87665110
>being pretentious about fighting ability and technique
>can't even recognize when it's different people
The ones you're making fun of are literal students, not even Bruce Lee. The one side kick of his in the beginning of the video was absolutely perfect
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>>87663298

Because they were not famous to begin with?
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>>87663389
he wanted to be white
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>>87664891
He only ran 5 miles with that dude, who was his friend. I'm sure he could run much more than that. Besides , 5 miles a day is more than enough considering he probably followed it up with hours of sparring, calisthenics, martial arts practice, swimming etc .
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>>87662259
The 70s were a much different time.
People thought the WWF was real
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>>87664891
its quality posts like this that remind everyone that not only are weebs autistic and smelly, but they are retarded and can't read as well.
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>>87665365
literally one punch man tier workout
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He kicked a guy so hard he flew into into another guy and broke his arm. How based do you have to be to kick someone and break someone else's bones?
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>>87662259

Simply genius.

>Too bad he killed himself with too little fat.

"SPEED IS POWER!"
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>>87664891
Jesus christ are you stupid or retarded.
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>>87662259
he was exceptional because he was an absolute fanatic for physical training and martial arts. every single day he devoted to intense physical training.

considering all the great fighters themselves have said he was untouchable leads me to think that there is truth to his prowess. you can even see his insane speed if you slow down some of his movie fights. he knew how to use his entire body to his strikes and was incredibly precise and quick. since kinetic energy is 1/2 mv^2, it's not at all "fake" to know his strikes had some intensity to them.
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>>87665110
This post is laughably bad. This mind boggles to thing of all the terrible shitposts you made leading up to this.
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Today, OP was the biggest fag imaginable
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crowder broke it down nicely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMFVOtvQ29k
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>>87666258
Yeah,the world was different back then. His bona fides come from being a legit street fighter from Hong Kong, not from being an actor.
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>>87665354
He was a quarter white, stupid
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>>87662259
>Is he overrated
A bit but not really, he was really really good at hitting things with his appendages.
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>>87666427
This is dumb. Having your dumb friends giggling along with you does not make your argument valid. And the fact that BL wasn't in the UFC is, dare I say, not an argument.
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>>87666427
I like Crowder but this is just stupid. Dude needs to stick to politics.
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>>87666725
>>87666826
it's a comedy show retards
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>>87666427
Why didn't he show the actual footage from the article at 5:27? He cut it to a completely different video the footage is here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2bxsKqWlwk
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>>87666873
It's pretty bad then.
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>>87666873
It just comes off stupid where was the comedy?
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>>87666427
gross, couldn't get more than 30 seconds into this. is this what you kids watch these days?
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>>87666873
i've seen funnier comedy on the tonight show
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>>87666941
sPARRING AGAINST YOUR PUPPIL

OK
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>>87665110
atleast Jacky Chan was a confirmed ragetard who spent his early life beating the shit out of people
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>>87666941
>>87667098

I don't know but that sparring looks fake, the pupil is too exaggerated when he gets hit
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>>87667308
>that sparring looks fake
it's a fucking show

Bruce Lee was just hte biggest chinese sellsman in history
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>>87667098
I never said that it was a true sparring match, I am saying he used completely different footage,. Calm down autist.
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>>87667379
We all know what you tried to say.
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>>87662259
I heard that he was fake and gay
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>>87662259
how can you know? maybe he would have been an mma champion
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>>87666941
There's footage of Steven Segal "fighting," but I don't think he's an actual fighter.

Bruce Lee isn't a fighter: he's an actor/showman. Always been the case.
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>>87662259
>invented jeet kune do, permanently changing the face of martial arts
No, he was not overrated.
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>>87667675
He's a legitimate street fighter. Sparring against some other dude in full padding isnt the same thing. This is why true Kung Fu never made it into MMA: lots of people will start dying.
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>>87667786

kys
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>>87667786
>He's a legitimate street fighter.
How do you know that?
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>>87667848
Lee was always getting his ass kicked when he was a kid in street fights, and then Ip Man took him under his wing and taught him how to fight. This shit's second grade. /tv/ really is getting dumber and dumber.
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>>87667953
Yeah I also have watched the movie or documentary but how do you know those fights really happened and that he won them,
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>>87667953

yeah i also saw how ipman fucked tyson lol so epic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HvnRvUSHr4
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>>87667795
How about we meet up and I kill you instead?
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>>87668041

okay bro but watch out you may kill yourself if you don't look after your deadly hands while you shower bro
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>>87668081
what
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>>87668146

please sansha im dying aghghhhg
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>>87667994
>and that he won them
Why do I always find myself talking to people who can't even read? He looked for martial arts training so he'd stop losing street fights.
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>>87662259

The man was actually a physical genius.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a3093/the-science-of-bruce-lees-one-inch-punch-16814527/
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>>87668039
this would be lethal in a street fight
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>>87668222
So he wasn't even a good street figther then, ooooooook.
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>>87668265

i think mike tyson eyes would fucking break your hands desu
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I recommend this book if y'all want to know about he got his physique and what exercises went into it. I got it as a gift and put off reading it for a few years, finally got around to it and it motivated me to convert my entire basement into a home gym.
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>>87668299
Are you eight years old? Why the fuck would he have wanted training in the first place if he was a born master? Half of his legendary status was the fact that he built himself up from the bottom of the barrel.
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>>87668422
How expensive is a home gym using this method?
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>>87662259
No hes not. There are many accounts from people he fought that said he literally destroyed them. The thing about Lee is that hes not a compettition or sport fighter thats why we dont hear any of his achievements like championship belts etc. He was a real fighter who fights in the street with no rules, referees etc. Just combat to survive. if you look at his videos most of his techniques are lethal, he designed them to target the eyes, or the balls and any other body parts which would not be permissible in todays sport fighting. But hes not a superhuman either I remember there was a documentary back then where a doctor commented his brain swelling that led to his death was not a result of allergy but his brains could no longer keep up with the growth and pressure from his body from the extreme training he put himself through. He was known to do all kinds of batshit crazy training like poking his finger through a socket and challenging the electric current.
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>>87668451
Yeah you can say it how you want but we are discussing here if he was a real fighter, nothing more.
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>>87668299
Is that really the narrative? seems a lot got stolen from him when he died...
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>>87662259
Bruce is a legend
you OP are just some anonymous faget posting on 4chan

can you figure-out this oneon your own?
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>>87668484
Now even your sentences have gone to shit. He got trained by fucking Ip Man himself. That's argument enough that yes, Bruce Lee could fight.
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>>87666826
His political comedy isn't even that funny. He can't even get a rise out of Cenk
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>>87668451

You mean, like every fighter out there?

just fucking admit that you bought all the bruce lee image, he can't fight for shit

>>87668532

Ipman was a fucking senile man, and his stories are false, do you believe the fucking chinese? half their history is false bullshit
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>>87662259
he can beat you up OP. thats all that matters in this context.
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>>87668039
Ith Man, get outh of my town
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>>87668532
Ip MAN XD

please, stop it... has he any fight record?
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>>87662547

This.

As a man, I'll always respect those who build their own power. We can sit here on our computers all day and debate it, but let's face it, NONE of you would see Mike Tyson is fucking crazy if he was in the same room as you. And that dude eats ears. Fucking ears.

Just because Bruce is dead doesn't change the fact if he was in the same room as me, the last thing I would say is he's overrated. The man could snap my neck like a twig on a whim if he wanted. I'd just be glad that he wouldn't.
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>>87668180
So where do you live you little got fuck lets do this
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>>87668709
Oh yeah just because Bruce Lee, a guy that trained all his life in martial arts could beat me, a regular person, then he is extraordinary. That doesn't have any sense.
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>>87668481
There's a shit ton in there so I had to be selective based on my budget and space. For instance he did a lot with a Marcy Circuit Trainer machine with cables and stuff, which I wasn't going to buy. I already had a heavy bag. For new stuff I dropped $340 on a rack, $150 on a bench, and $140 on gym flooring. I save on weights, bars, etc. by buying used on craigslist, which came to roughly $250 for what I needed. So whatever all that adds up to. Wasn't cheap but it's been about 6 months and I feel like I'm pretty much set.
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>>87668574
>he can't fight for shit
He was practically kicked out of Hong Kong for beating the shit out of his fellow students after he'd been trained.
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>>87668812
Sounds like it'll take awhile, but it doesn't seem undoable. Thanks, anon.
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>>87665110
Nigger
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>>87668787
>extraordinary

by definition yes he is. i hate people who misuse words. its like they dont understand basic communication, which is a sign of lower intelligence.
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>>87665135
Who started co paring Bruce Lee to mma fighters ?

I bet it's those McGregor cum gurglers.
Lee would shit on any mma fighter their training is a joke compared to what lee did to his body.
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>>87669067
Honestly I doubt English is this kid's first language.
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>>87668787

I could probably fight bruce lee in boxing, he had terrible skills, he is too slow and punches way too open
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>>87662259
say that to his face fucker not online and see what happens
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>>87669067
No he's not, only because he could beat me, he's not.

>>87669132
No, it's not my first language, you are right about that but wrong about the rest.
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>>87666260

laughable is the only word i know
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>>87668146
he means that you might end up masturbating to death in the showers of your own home, killed by your own hands
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>>87669228
he can beat the majority of the population.
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>>87669228
>No he's not, only because he could beat me, he's not.
You're way below his level, and his goddamned bones have decomposed by now. You're legitimately angry at this point, pajeet, so go outside, take a big shit, and simmer down.
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>>87668624
nigga defeated the samurai
you stool think he made himself up from gorgeous women? no he never did that, he never did any of that shit
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>>87669256
That's not extraordinary either. The majority of people don't have time to train al day,
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>>87669329
>nigga defeated the samurai
what? the usa wasn't involved in that?
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>>87669371
>could literally defeat any ordinary person
>not extraordinary
Come back when you actually learn English, Hiran.
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>>87669469
No, you come back when you have learned some logic.
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>>87669706
You're not even trying anymore. Learn what English words mean, then come back. You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>87665110
Bullshit narrative you got there. Bruce's routines were always changing. Your pic is just one example of what he was doing at that gym at that time. Here's another routine from a few years later. He kept plenty of diaries and notepads of his routines you can find elsewhere. There's an entire chapter in the book I posted on various neck exercises he would do.
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>>87662259
After watching McGregor's performance against Mayweather, I do believe that Bruce Lee would dominate MMA because he had amazing strength and stamina.
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>>87669761
OK, let's change the word then. For me he wasn't SPECIAL because he could beat the ordinay man for the reasons I have said.
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>>87668305
I read a maxim article a long long time ago with tyson, and the thing I will never forget is when he says he wrestles his tigers for fun, and he punches them in the balls to get them angry.
I don't ever want to fuck with that guy.
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>>87662259
He basically invented the concept of MMA. Instead of sucking off one martial art, take the best parts from all of them. That's what his Jeet Kune Do was all about.
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>>87669872
>for me
So you've boiled down your entire argument down to personal opinion. I'll stick with the facts, thanks.
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how insecure do you need to be to go on 4chan and tell strangers that bruce lee was a pussy and you could've kicked his ass
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most of the stories about bruce lee are just a bunch of legendary bullshit, don't take any of them seriously.
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>>87669922
this. you can debate whether he was a legendary martial artist but he was a pioneer of modern martial arts philosophy
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>>87669936
>I'll stick with the facts, thanks.
What facts?
Any fighting record?
Any real fight filmed?
Anything apart from things that his puppils said?
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>>87667786
you are a retard
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>>87670089
His training.
His proven exercise method.
His foundation of Jeet Kune Do and by extension the foundation of MMA.
The science behind the One-inch punch.

Martial arts is more than how much ass you can kick in a competition. There's more than enough evidence that not only could Lee fight, but that his techniques have helped others fight in the following years. More than your increasingly autistic assertions that he can't fight for shit because you don't like him.
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>>87670236
>There's more than enough evidence that not only could Lee fight
what evidence?
show me
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>>87670236
This. Even his philosophy alone has inspired many of the great fighters we know and love today, and I've never once in my life seen a true fighter shit on Bruce lee.
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>>87670236
every 'documented' fight for bruce is complete bullshit spread by his students, stop believing that crap, it's horseshit. he very well could have been a good fighter but there is no evidence for it
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>>87670372
>Even his philosophy alone has inspired many of the great fighters we know and love today
That doesn't mean he was one of the best fighter of all time as people has believed.

>and I've never once in my life seen a true fighter shit on Bruce lee
That's because they think is cool and they seemed more deep talking about Bruce's philosophy. I'm sure half of them have only watched some video and never read any of Bruce's books.
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>>87664103
>"A man must constantly exceed his level"
>gets killed by an aspirin
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>>87670470
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> good body
Understatement of the century, Mr Warm Marble perfect every muscle in his body all day everyday. It's not wonder people talked up his legend, he had a dedication that probably only 20 or 30 people in the world could match.

He's not a god but I wouldn't want him to hit me in the face that's for sure. He's an inspiration not to be a lazy cunt.
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Bruce Lee's footwork was fucking incredible to watch. He was light as a feather on his feet.

There are some amazing athletes, that in 3 seconds of watching you know this person is something very special. Lomachenko in boxing, Connor McDavid in hockey, there's something magical about the way they move. Bruce Lee has that too. I don't need to see him fight to know he'd be a great UFC fighter because his movement and athleticism and his commitment all speaks for itself.
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>>87670526
>I don't need to see him fight to know

why are bruce lee fans so dumb
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>>87670561
You're missing the point, fucknuts. He was clearly a very special athlete and if you can't see that from watching his grace, footwork and speed, then you're a dogshit talent scout.
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>>87670561
Yeah man, I have been trying to end their delusional view bout it's impossible.
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>>87670638
that's like saying "i know this guy is good at computer games because he can type very fast"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SncapPrTusA

Look he could play ping pong with nunchucks.
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>>87670733
Not actually bruce
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>>87670672
It's adorable when retards are too stupid to see how dumb they are.

Bruce Lee's clearly had the athleticism of an elite athlete. Like Floyd Mayweather elite. How many in UFC actually have that? Very few. How many have the dedication of Bruce Lee? Maybe none?

As long as he isn't chinny as fuck he would be about as sure of a prospect as they come. Trust me buddy I know you think you're really smart on this one but you're actually dumber than fuck.
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>>87670672
Nah it's more like "because he's got incredible hand eye coordination, on par with korean LOL world champions". Movement, athelticism, understanding of space & distancing translate well whatever fighting you take up and he was already an accomplished martial artist so it's not that bit a stretch.
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>>87670780
yes im sure professional mma fighters don't have the dedication of bruce lee

you are completely delusional and buttblasted as all fuck
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>>87670236
>but he was a pioneer of modern martial arts philosophy

Science behind a one inch punch? You mean transferring momentum from the ground/hips? Boxing had literally been doing that for decades.
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>>87670826
No they don't you fucking retard. You see Connor McGregor drinking whiskey after his match with Floyd? And he's one of the most dedicated in the sport. To most it's a sport. To Bruce Lee it was his entire life. He didn't have training camps, his whole life was a training camp.

Fuck you really are stupid man...
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>>87670638

So? Doing flashy movements doesn't mean anything if you can't actually put it into practice. Which he never did. Like those guys that throw footballs 100 yards into a basketball hoop doesn't mean they're destined to be great quarterbacks.
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>>87662259
>I hate when people make people gods only because they die young.
cough* TUPAC cough*
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>>87670887
>who life was a training camp
>he was an actor that had roles in really dumb chink kung fu shit and tv shows
>no actual fights recorded, just a bunch of nonsense written by his students

riiiiiiiiiiiiight
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>>87670941
Yeah but he's doing more than just throwing a ball. His footwork is exceptional, he was very smart (which is very important in sports), he understood combat principles very well, his stamina and everything else was likely very high, and as I explained to that dipshit, his commitment was on par with the top athletes in the world.

You can't find a guy who comes into the UFC who moves like that, and busts. Any guy with off the charts athleticism always finds success in that sport.
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>>87665492
Well, he WAS the irl Saitama.
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>>87662259
>Is he overrated? I think people say stupid things about him like that he would be champion in MMA or that he was so strong and so dangerous. He was just a clever, cultured guy with good body and martial arts, nothing more. And good martial arts actor. I hate when people make people gods only because they die young.

Overrated Fighter
Underrated Role model

I prefer chuck norris though, underrated fighter and underrated role model
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if bruce lee was one of the best then jeet kune do should be the best martial arts system in the world

it's not
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>>87671166
You don't understand the concept of Jeet Kune Do. He made that martial art specifically for himself. The book Tao of Jeet Kune Do tells others to do the same. There is no best system, it depends on the individual. The book tells readers to examine their strengths and weaknesses and develop the techniques which suit them the best. That's what JKD was to Bruce. But if he was a tank it would have more wrestling and less kicking.
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>>87671223
so basically if people followed that, they would develop their own style accordingly. annnd no one worth a shit has done that, so it's useless.

also you were obviously obsessed with the guy
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>>87662259

I too saw that Crowder video.
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>>87664103
Someone please post the edit.
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>being buttblasted because of Bruce Lee
fucking lmao
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>>87671338
When I was like 15 I was. Read all his books. Haven't really though about him for years until this thread came up. Anyway all I'm doing is correcting some idiots here. He was without a doubt an elite athlete and a pioneer in martial arts philosophy. People shit on him to be edgy, they're no different from people who say he's the best fighter in the world. He might not be the GOAT but he was amazing and deserves respect even if it is from 4chan autists.
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>>87665947
i have just become aware of my own terrible posture.
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>>87666873
>merely pretending to be retarded

It's a shitty video and you should feel bad for posting it.
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>>87669329
>nigga defeated the samurai
>defeated some glorified peasant slayer
So what?
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>>87662259
did you know that he was so fast that they actually had to slow the footage down so that people can actually SEE his fists?
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>>87663298
Oh lord, beta orbiter whining about Bruce's popularit and posting image of a truly overrated dumb as a sack of bricks bodybuilder who accomplished nothing noteworthy in his life beyond killing himself with coke and speed in a thai whorehouse.
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>>87669838
That was such a satisfying fight. I'm not even a Mayweather fan but I love seeing the loud screaming uppity muhtwistedpsychopath faggots get knocked the fuck down a peg.
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I'm genuinely amazed at how lazy and weak every single anti-Bruce shitpost here is lol, you faggots didn't even try. There's probably a good lesson to be learned in there somewhere.
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