for all you pirating faggots, you RUINED the industry, fuckin plebs

people turned to piracy because the industry ruined itself by chasing younger and younger demographics (and not getting them naked).

>>87632990
>naked
wtf are you even saying, its a degenerate culture that disdains hardwork and purchasing a service, you dont work, you dont eat, selfish, entitled, spoiled brats, period.

>>87632760
I have a right to free shit, capitalism says so

>>87633171
(((capitalism))) says gibs me da mone$, goyo, you get no compensation because I need to have more money i mean grow muh industree goy good goyoz big mone$$ pleez

>>87632990
I turned to piracy because $30 for a new release blu-ray is absurd.

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>>87632760
>like I would pay to watch GoT, let alone HBO.

>>87632760
>you RUINED the industry
I wish

how can i ruin something that's very gay and homosexual?
I don't get it

>>87632760
It's not RUINED enough yet.
We have to keep on pirating shit until it's dead.

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>>87632760
Give me one (1) reason why I should pay for something that I can easily obtain for free.

>>87633420
I think you're failing to follow the finer parts of the conversation youngfag.

>>87633469
If piracy is really denying movie studios the revenue it supposedly does why are they still rolling out huge budget movies year after year? Shouldn't they at least adjust their strategy?

>>87633469

The finer parts being...?

>>87633519

Movies make a lot of their money off of box office sales so piracy isn't as big of a deal.
Music piracy is what does actual damage.

>>87634283
>>87633519
>>87633469
You guys just don't get it

Or just purchase bargain DvDs for $1 which allows you to download a single copy of the digital files for personal use.

>>87632990
Don't kid yourself. You stopped going to the movies because you had no one to go with/ or hates society as a whole and never goes out

good
fuck your industry

>>87634400
Try and explain then, bub.

Most movies that bomb fucking deserve it, and a lot of the movies that make gangbusters deserve to bomb themselves
Who cares? They're still making shitloads of money over their. My unwillingness to pay an absurd amount of money for a ticket or a bluray when I can just be patient and get it for free hasn't changed a damn thing.

>>87632760
Piracy is the only way to out-jew the jew.

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>>87632760
I turned to piracy because I would never spend money on a movie.

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>>87634505
You see, anon. I don't get it either.

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>>87634661
wrong image

>>87633338
I used to enjoy renting movies at blockbuster.
But then several times in a row I ended up renting utter trash.
I figured that if there's no guarantee I'll enjoy the product, why shekel out first?

>>87633171
This but unironically. I don't owe anybody anything and have the right to pursue as much personal gain as I can manage. If something is easily available for free, how does it benefit me to pay for it?

>>87633097
how does one playback digital media with out a device or electric? there is something paid lol

>>87632760
>buy Peckinpah movies on BluRay
>the ghost of Sam Peckinpah gets nothing
>I'm a little poorer and whichever Jews have the rights add a few more shekels to their Scrooge McDuck vault
>pirate them
>Peckinpah's ghost still a broke spectral motherfucker but I'm less of one
Easy choice at this cash-poor and movie-hungry stage in my life. I believe in the principle of paying for things I like, would shell out for a box set with special features, remasters and all that, but until then I'll stick to torrents

Blame the free market senpai

>>87633452
the satisfaction of supporting art that you like

>>87634755
kek

>>87632760
Cheating is all part of the game bud

>>87634755
HAHAHAHAHA

>>87633420
>>87634600
>>87634600
It is RUINED. Because of faggots like you, we will never get a peculiar film franchise, big budget blockbuster like Back to the future again. Hollywood won't take a chance on idiosyncratic tent poles rightfully so because mother fuckers like (YOU) won't pay for them. No we have to die the slow death of dreadful sequels and exhausting reboots. I can't wait for everyone of you fuckers to pay some digital fine in the future because they have been secretly keeping tab of your offenses. You will pay. I also can't wait for netflix to crash once more studios implement their own streaming service like Disney. ITS GUNNA BE A SHITSHOW. NO ONE WILL SURVIVE AND WE WILL LEECH ON YOUTUBE "EPICX" TILL WERE DEAD

>>87634755
Don't listen to these fucking faggots, they're the same scumbags who loot during a hurricane

What I find funny is that for the past few years studios have blamed pirating for there decreasing growth, now they have started blaming rotten tomatoes. hey hollywood maybe now that we have video games, the internet and social media, we have other things to do instead of go see whatever trash is in theatres or on tv.

>>87633519
you clearly don't know how movies are funded

it's not as simple as using the money you got from other movies to make new ones, these companies don't have hundreds of millions of dollars of capital at a time. they get investors to loan them in various re-financing schemes. I get that you're trolling but i see this idea thrown out a lot on this board and i'm getting sick of it.

If you want to learn more this is a great start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgj0Z7zE0HM

I don't even pirate anymore, all movies are shit.

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I see you've stolen my shit over at s4s, hypocrisy much faggot?

>>87632760

Piracy just makes sense when they took away the ability to rent physical media completely (here in Canada), streaming services are a complete mess when it comes to content and it's rape prices to buy a movie I'm only gonna watch 1 or 2 times max. I still pick up DVDs or Blu Rays for like 5 dollars max at thrift stores if I really liked the movie.

>>87634978
>depression
See a doc garçon, I'll pray for u

>>87634707
>how does it benefit me to pay for it?
But think of the poor, starving children of billonaire jewish studio execs, anon!

>>87634876
Not really though. Digital and physical goods are different. I'd never loot a store and I've pirated shit for years.

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>>87634755
>being a rich fag who has the luxury to spend money on anything other than the bills

>>87635019
why do you think studios are only made of studio heads?

All piracy's done is let me see things I would never have seen otherwise, and honestly a lot of it I wouldn't want to support anyway. It's a different case for books, if the author's still living I'll buy a physical copy even though I prefer reading electronically. The same thing might apply to video games if I played them, I'm not sure of the situation now

Has anyone ever been fined or taken to court for pirating some shit flick? And is it common in the land of the free or bongland?

>>87635332
Why dont you do your own research you pathetic lazy sack of shit

>>87632760
With Netflix and Moviepass there is literally no longer an excuse to pirate.

>>87634755
t. Lars Ulrich

>>87635410
Netflix has fuck all movies.

>>87635410
You pay for netflix? Fucking idiot.

Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a life time. Now that I know what casts the shadows on the wall the illusion can not be made again. Once you see the light you can not willingly go back into darkness.

>>87635066
You are full of shit and will bend morals as you please

>>87635532
You think you're safe from the law?

>>87635410
>cuckflix
>cuckpass
no way fag

>>87635613
Uh.. No.

>>87635613
Enjoy paying for 10 different subscriptions cuck.

>>87633452
You accepted to live in this society so you should abide to its rules, therefore you should pay for those products

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>>87634755
get a load of this faggot

>>87632760
kek saying that on 4chan

>>87635689
Which society?

>>87635689
Accepted? I was born in to it but chose not to be molded by it. The government owns all the land so there is no escape anyway.

>>87634848
1 shekel has been deposited into your account.

>>87635642
No one's safe from the law. I can't go back into the darkness.

>>87632760
>RUINED the industry
oh really? So you mean GoT producers are bankrupt? HBO is about to pull out all their programs cause the ship is drowning?
Please explain how the industry in its entirety is ruined.

>>87632760
>Promoting Piratebay in the meme it should fight against

>>87635332
Yes people have been sued. They don't really anymore except for copyright sharks. Just use a vpn for torrenting.

>>87635642
I am the law

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>>87635707
>cigarette
Stupid amphibious fuck

>>87634848
>Hollywood only cares about Chinese market despite it being a piracy mecca second only to Russia

Your logic doesn't add up.

>>87635689
No.

>>87632760
>pirating
It's actually called digital sharing

REMINDER

PIRACY IS A CODE WORD FOR I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN EXCUSE BUT WILL TRY PUNISH YOU ANYWAY

IT IS ONLY SHARING ECONOMY IS YOU PAY ME

>>87635778
Wtf r u saying? How is pb being promoted?

>>87635879
>illegal immigration
it's actually called land sharing

>implying people who pirate aren't the same who buy boxsets and are spending way more on physical media than normies

>>87635898
Immigration is not actually sharing since you basically move to another country and let their government take care of you.
It's more of a land daycare

>>87635613
>I would never pay to watch this movie so I'm pirating it
>MAGIC WAND PIRATING'S GONE
>Welp looks like I'm not paying to see it AND I'm not watching it. The industry is saved.

>>87635898
>don't mind me, just pirating this nationality

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>>87635879
>sharing
I hope you never get to enjoy art again in your life time desu

>>87635933
illegal aliens don't get government assistance
they do have to pay taxes though
it's more of a land donation box

>>87635898
Since Hollywood is all out supporting land sharing I don't see why I shouldn't keep doing my digital sharing.

>>87635943
Too bad when someone fuckin streams or uploads millions of people get shit for free instead off paying, your fucking making life pointless, no incentive to do shit, lazy, entitled, shit for brains generation

>>87632760
Most films are fucking terrible as it is. Why should I spend money on it? If they could actually ban pirating it doesn't mean I'd go buy their shitty films, they'll just end up going straight in the trash.

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>>87635974
>aliens

Two things ruined the industry. Unions and the inability of executives to catch up with the times. Pirates didn't kill the industry. Shit like Netflix did. It got old and stuck in its ways now its going to die just like what happens to every person on earth.

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>Pirate movies to try them
>If you like it, buy it so that only the most original and best films/teams get your money and rise to the top

Give me one reason whu meritocracy of revenue is a bad system you crazed communists? Not everything has the same value. If a film is made with no effort and shit visuals then they don't deserve to make a large return, do they?

>inb4 waaaaaah t...that's theft!

>>87635761
>one show
You guys are the reason well never see Hannibal on tv ever again, stupid fuck

>>87635996
Man where did all these moralfags come from? Does the MPAA actually hire shills to come to shit holes like this? Seems like a waste of money.

>>87636043
That was because normies didn't watch it.

>>87636005
This. Never seen a single fact to back up the assertion that every pirated piece of media = a lost sale. If someone listens to hours of music outside of their income, taking their ability to listen to it away won't magically give them money to spend on it, and their lack of knowledge now means they can't pass on word of mouth advertising to someone who CAN pay for it.

I don't know what world you live in where you think nobody wants to see artists they love taken care of. If that were true, kickstarter, patreon, Bandcamp allowing pay what you want pricing often INCLUDING 0$, GoG.com couldn't exist and thrive but they all are.

Learn to recognize piracy for what it is: free advertising.

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I pirate movies and TV shows because I am a digital hoarder and because I don't like paying for things. I don't make any excuses about a "sharing economy" or "art should be free" or anything like that. I believe it's stealing, but I do it anyway because I don't want to pay for things if I can get them for free.

Also because it is inconvenient to try and track down which (if any) of the many video streaming services has a particular thing I want to watch. Sometimes I want to watch an episode of Columbo at 2:30 in the morning and I don't want to have to figure out where the fuck I can do that online. Piracy is more convenient.

>>87636005
Faggot, listen please, real close, perk ur ear drum fer fuck sakes,.


You have no life outside of youtube. If it was 10 years ago, you woulda payed for every fuckin movie that came out so you would have an excuse to show your face in public. Back in the day it was exciting and rewarding to watch a movie you knew nothing about. Now people watch the films in the trailers and fill in the blanks with the pirates. Why do you think people leak scenes on YouTube, there just watching movies how people digest shit today. ADD rodents with no head, scrambling for dopamine. I wish I could scrape the inner rim of my ass crack with their tongues. So immoral but so JUST.

>>87636073
They come from reddit.

>>87636073
Your life is wasteland

>>87633097
Wrong.

Films used to get released in the US 4-6 months before Europe 15 years ago. Finally some big blockbusters like Lord of the Rings changed that and got released the same night as the US. Most average films still get released 1-2 months after the US in Europe.

Tv series on the other hand used to take A YEAR to be released in European tv, or be released on DVD in shops in Europe. A FUCKING YEAR.

The internet changed all that. Suddenly geeks like me could watch any tv series at the same time as US viewers. Netflix and similar providers realized the demand of European viewers, but it was too late. Most Europeans are used to piracy by now, due to convenience.

>>87636092
>equating movies with music
Do you know what rotation count is dumbass? How many times are you gunna read the same book? You know how fuckin rare it is for any person to repeat the same fringe activity that requires commitment without the same novel reward? Music is different becuade it's mood oriented and environmental and ambiguous in its importance to the person, it becomes subjective. Stories and movies are objective and time consuming, you will not invest more than once, ESPECIALLY, in this day and age of edge Lord pussy thieves, you will pay, they're tracking your damage

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>>87632760
>GoT is the most pirated show ever
>Makers swim in money
Same with games
>Witcher 3 has no drm
>Still one of the best selling games out there
Book, should i even start?
>people pirate books
>somehow thousands published every year making people rich as fuck

Stop blaming piracy for your retarded products no one wants to buy. Be thankful that at least someone is interested by pirating them.

>>87634876
>you wouldnt rape and kill right? downloading a movie is just the same!!
fuck off lmao

>>87636148
The last film I paid to see was tim burtons alice in wonderland and Im never gonna fucking pay for another film again. I was physically embarrasing to be see in the cinema man. Why should I pay for that fucking experience?

>>87636171
>its a faggot acting superior cause he bought the latest superhero blockbusters on blu ray

>>87636272
So motherfucker am I supposed to go oh well to the millions of dollars I lost to people like my free riding neighbour and his friends? The only reason I'm rich is becuase loyal moral driven people paid for it. You are an ass stain on my underwear. I hope you take no such pleasure from my shit. I cant wait for your system to get booted by the boys upstairs. Time to get shifted and glitched. Salt is comin leech.

Sometimes I wonder if the decay of their industry has less to do with piracy and more to do God punishing them for fucking all those children.

>hollywoo is on its knees sucking chinas dick
>china biggest pirating country
hmmm

>>87636272
I understand that the developers can get ripped off, but that's because producers, publishers, and retailers take such a massive cut.

Piracy seems like a scapegoat for the real issue, where innovators can be abused by the corporate world.

>>87636043
Kek i took one example...Hannibal was never reaching for huge audience anyway. You seriously think that is the one show that was ruined by piracy? Gee, they sure took a while to pull the plug on this "ruined" show.

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>>87636171
>your life is wasteland
Bin gar keine Russin, stamm’ aus Litauen, echt deutsch.

>>87635898
>you wouldn't download a country

>>87636373
It got pirated to shit, and people binges watched it instead of tuning in, this gen doesn't know temperance, bunch of egotistical animals

Too many reboots, sequels and sequels too reboots, not enough risk taking.
Too much politics in culture in general.
Too much pandering to retards.
Too much greed from corporations.

I would rank them and affect in the industry

1. Big screen HDTV's made easier to skip the theater and watch it at home
2. Netflix/movies on demand same
3. Redbox
4. Forced diversity/SJW cuck shit/ actors bashing whites, christians and conservatives
5. Piracy

>>87636421
And yet the industry works fine and still makes other shows. I loved Hannibal and watched it all, i'm sorry it didn't have a better ending but they still somehow made it work.

>>87636335
Is this what autism looks like?

>>87636148
your're a fucking idiot people have been pirating since the release of record-able media only difference is you dont have to pay some fat greasy shady fuck for a copied vhs tape

>>87636259
You're talking to a guy who watches Dredd once a year.

By the way, piracy would have fucking saved that movie since more people would have gone to the theaters to see the 3D if they'd known the movie was good, but the 0 advertisement caused absolutely nobody to show up at the theater and by the time people GOT to pirate the movie and saw it was good, the movie was already out of theaters.

So fuck you pajeet.

>>87636335
Lmao.

>>87636776
Not on this scale idiot, and it's over, they killed the video star, they did it, revenge for radio

>>87636495
That show ended early a few season dumbass

>>87636925
>once a year
Lmao oly chit, how fucking miserable are you, you just proved my point you beamed burritoo, movies are barely watched more than once, you have blood on your hands, you have taken the lives of future characters..

>>87636952
What makes movies so fucking special? Music is fine, even if you ignore that books are fine, videogames are fine. TV SHOWS are doing great right now even if actual cable TV is dying to Netflix (another paid avenue of streaming). What makes movies so special that piracy is somehow killing specifically them?

>>87637018
You aren't even making sense. Is someone who misses a movie in theaters but buys it later in a discount DVD bin a scumbag? Are the people who used to rent movies the true devils all along? Are people who borrow movies from friends awful people?

Your logic is wildly inconsistent and you're getting needlessly emotional. Stop being a fag.

I wouldn't even watch the show/movie or play the game if I didn't pirate it. The producers aren't losing anything from me.

>Recent films are the highest grossing titles of all time
>Live music having higher sales than ever before
>Video game industry worth billions upon billions now

How has piracy ruined anything?

>>87637025
It's killing both tv and film faggot, if I need to explain again, thwn I have as much retardation as you, I'm going to bed

If I own a DvD and still use a "pirate stream site" what does that mean?

>>87637074
YOU NEVER PAID FOR THE MOVIE FUCK FACE. HOW ELSE WOUKD YOU GET THE SERVICE IF IT WASNT STOLEN................................YOU WOULD PAY OUT OF YOUR MINIMUM WAGE ASS WIPE.

>>87637113
Prove it faggot. Back up your assertions. Prove to me Hollywood is dying because of piracy and not wildly inflated budgets while they try and chase that Extended Universe money.

Or just go to bed. That likely is a better idea.

>>87637108

As someone said earlier, it's a scapegoat for greedy producers and publishers shitting on the developers and stifling creativity.

>>87637131
Semi scumbag. Illogical and immoral cuz your feeding the geese

>>87637153
You're spouting literal gibberish at this point. Buying used movies is paying for it, buying older movies at a discount is paying for it, borrowing from a friend is NOT paying for it but good luck convincing me it is immoral, and I know it isn't illegal.

Go home, you're drunk.

>>87637164
>sequels
>reboots
>netflix
>critical acclaimed shows dying on air
>drop in popcorn industry
Etc. Good night fahgit

>>87637195
No one gets what's not paid for. No one makes unless he receives. Until you get that in your thick cuz filled skull, you will never have value. Fuck off you stupid speck of dust.

>>87637218
All of which except Netflix has existed before the internet became mainstream. Also your assertion doesn't even make sense because the sequels and reboots they're making are MORE expensive, not less, than other successful action movies! John Wick is original, has often 1/3 or 1/4 the budget of these "reboots and sequels" and made a killing.

You are full of absolute shit.

>>87637260
>Not buying movies at full price means I think everybody should be forced to make art for free

You're a psycho and should seek help.

Btw America is torrented land. You fuckers ruined the indigenous industry.

We did it bros.

>>87637295
>indie cult autist action flick
Good try Keanu, Hollywood hasn't pumped an original blockbuster in ages all due to the piracy industry. They are cracking down, and your next you bubble button faggot

>>87637328
You're irrelevant to Hannity and it's progress, kindly fuck off

>>87637344
Did what..

>>87637400
Logan made good money. Deadpool made good money despite having a meagre budget for a superhero flick. But I suppose those don't count because >capeshit

You're a baiting faggot. Fuck off already.

>>87634465
>le I own the original so I'm allowed a backup meme

LMAO

That's great news.
Let it die.

Good.

>>87637505
I'm embarrassed for you anon.

>>87637555
>You're allowed to make a "digital" backup of your non-digital media
>DVD's are considered digital media
>Ergo having digital copies on your computer even if you own the physical DVD is illegal (unless you've purchased those digital files/they've come with your DVD as some do)

>>87632760
>movies could be made with literally 1/10 of their budgets
>some of the most expensive movies of all time failed hard
>movies still have budgets past the hundred million markj
No, pirates didn't ruin anything. In fact, pirates are demanding a higher quality in order to give their money to Hollywood, unlikely the average movie goer.

>>87637635
>digital files/they've come with your DVD as some do)
Thats what he's talking about it you stupid fuck.

>>87634755
I don't like the companies, what now?

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>>87634755
>art you like
Most people here are aware of how shitty movies are. I don't like most movies, and I want them to fail. I want every genetic superhero block buster to flop. I want every remake or reboot to flop. I don't like the art and I want it to go to ruins.

>>87634876
>looting your small city and do real physical harm to your surroundings
>disrespecting the imaginary intellectual property that can be cloned infinitely owned by a billionaire corporation
>those are basically the same thing.
mfw

ummm excuse me sweetie but either I get free media to pacify me or the proletariat rises up.

>>87632760
I DONT HAVE A JOB WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO

>Paying for Cuckflix

If you're too much of a pussy for piracy and want to stay safe, why not spend a fraction of that on VPN?

>>87632760
>you RUINED the industry
they ruin society. (token blacks, token gays etc)

1:1

>>87632990
People didn't "turn to piracy". Cheapskates and younger audience members without substantial incomes simply sought torrenting as the only option for their media acquisition, for obvious monetary reasons. This over time has had a negative effect on what kinds of movies get made by major studios. Gone are the medium budget pictures, and unfortunately now everything is either a cheaply made """indie""" production or a huge blockbuster that guarantees studios get their money back, which they do by appealing to the largest audience possible. In a way you're kind of right, the studios are NOW targeting the 7-12 year old demographic harder because they are much less likely to torrent movies, and instead get their parents to take them to the cinema.

>>87636043
good. thats a degenerate shit annyway you sick bastard

>>87632760
good, the movie industry deserves to die

>>87632760
i'm downloading stuff for over a decade. only stuff i can't get legally in my country. since netflix and amazon prime i only have to torrent obscure asian movies.

>>87632760
The industry thrives on artificial monopolies, it is the result of the powerful lobbying industry. I pirate because I have no respect for this industry or their cartel, where charging $20 for a piece of entertainment and proving no low-cost alternative is acceptable.

Even in music, those sharks will allow Youtube uploads of their albums to live, because they know it's ultimately beneficial, as research has shown time and again. Piracy will make customers of people who would otherwise not spend money on a movie.

>>87634755
I only watch it to pass time.

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It is true. The most direct harm piracy has done to the movie, television, music and video game industries is that it's made people who are too stupid to pirate the most valuable and influential demographic. Think about it, the only folks voting with their dollars at this point are the ones too illiterate to even find TPB. How horrifying is that?

>>87639094
oy vey! We of superior tastes should spur forthwith and change the course of content creators think the public likes. Yes! Vote your wallet friends!

>>87639133
Well, the rest of the thread established that the money is still rolling in from SOMEWHERE, so enjoy Marvel films and Big Bang Theory spinoffs forever I guess

>>87632760
The industry can burn with its monthly capeshit releases.

>>87632990
People turn to piracy when they find out it exists and is pretty safe, that's all it is.

The funny thing is there isn't a single person in this thread who has never pirated.

Launch a service that lets people pay a reasonable price to watch the particular shows and movies they're interested in rather than making people sign up to multiple services

>>87635913

I sincerely doubt it.

>>87632760
Modern Hollywood recipe

>Take a big franchise from the 80's
>Make a shitty movie, the content doesnt matter
>Market the shit out of it
>People will watch just because of the name, so what if its shit, they already paid
>Profit

Im not paying to be scammed

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>>87635898
>land sharing

I'll stop pirating movies and television (mostly) when a platform with nearly anything I could want to watch, in GOOD (10,000kbps for a 1080p encode) quality, without needing to have some autistically specific hardware and software, pops up. Spotify got me to stop pirating music this way. So far it looks like Amazon is leading the race.

>>87636335
>The only reason I'm rich is becuase loyal moral driven people paid for it.
The crux of the joke here is that it's actually the people who pirate the most who spend the most on cultural products.

>>87632760
>pirating
Do not use that word to describe copying files as it has nothing in common with killing people and pillaging ships and gold on the high seas.

>>87632760
I turned to gaming.For the price of one one movie ticket i can get a game that will last me 30+ hours or more if there is multiplayer.

Movies can't compete with games when it comes to $/hour ration.Especially with GOG/steam sales.

The only thing that a cinema viewing can give you, is the big screen spectacle.

>>87634755
Jokes on you I hate everything I watch

>>87639729

this

I could afford to buy everything I watch but I simply cannot do so because it doesn't come out in my country for months and just having a file on my computer is so convenient rather than some jenky streaming service or faggy disc

I havn't pirated a video game in years because steam is so much more convenient than dodging all the bullshit computer problems pirating games gives you

if they let me just download .mkv files from steam without any DRM autism then that's what I'd do since that would be better than the slight tad of autism that's still in pirating video files where some dumbass uploads the wrong episode or whatever

>>87632760
Jews made it all shit so I'm keeping my shekels

>>87636096
This. Fuck it.
It's all going down anyway.

>>87634467
How rude.

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>>87632760
You know, it's funny you ask that. Well anon, "for all you pirating faggots, you RUINED the industry, fuckin plebs" happened long before you and I were even born. At the birth of the studio system, Jews, realizing the propaganda potential, began to either create their own studios or steal others. Paramount is a fine example - originally created and owned by William Wadsworth Hodkinson, a non-Jew, it was merged with the Jewish owned Famous Players Lasky, who then used controlling interests to oust Hodkinson and replace him with Jew Adolph Zukor. Paramount is worth over 800 billion, today.)

The Jews would use Hollywood as means to financial success, political power and influence, continuously placing Jews to be their successors in power so that the studios remained firmly in their hands. As time went on they would place more Jews into the spotlight - some of the earliest stars being Kirk Douglas (born Issur Danielovitch), or Hedy Lamarr (born Hedwig Kiesler), normalizing the presence of this minute minority in American daily lives.

Through Hollywood the Jews would spread social liberalism and Marxist ideals, mold American opinion, and finance their own nation. My lack of opportunities to get my film financed, compiled with the extraordinary number of mediocre screenplays being financed ahead of mine, is just another reiteration of this, only now the American public seems to be finally getting sick of the Jewish presence in their lives.

>>87632990
People turned to piracy because it's free and convenient. I pirate but I don't kid myself and pretend I have a moral highground.

>>87634755
>the satisfaction of supporting art that you like

literally meaningless

>>87642280
People focus on the "free" but it's really the "convenient" part that attracts people. There are plenty of people out there who have no problem with paying, but once they've paid they don't want to deal with DRM or any other inconvenient bullshit.

>>87642090
>jews are already winning at capitalism
>"yeah but it's all just a ploy, they really want communism"

>>87634755
but i don't.

>>87637260
what country are you from? you've been spouting retarded nonsense and non sequiturs in broken english all thread and i need to know.

>>87634876
>the same scumbags who loot during a hurricane

you mean niggers?

>>87632760

When they stop making movies to the lowest common denominators to maximise profit instead of making good movies, I will pay for them.

But when you have a generally passable movie like IT get hurt by idiot moding the scares with shitty jump tracks, I refuse to give more money to the industry than I have to when I take your mother out because I fuck her.

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I turned into piracy because movies are not worth money anymore.

Most of them aren't worth even pirating anyway.


I feel like contributing to holywood death.

>>87642535
Yeah /pol/ fails to see communism is the end goal of usa gov, turns out to pose a real competition to chinese economic threat you gonna have to copy china ways.

If it works there it will work here

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>>87634755
Notice how most the replies are generic "Hurr movies are terrible", you can just tell these are people who have drowned in capeshit and not watched anything worthy

>>87634755
>art
There hasn't been a movie released that I would consider art in fucking years anon. Why don't you say the real reason the industry is dying and nothing good is made?
>repeatedly fuck over writers til they bail en masse
>buy out IPs just to own them/
>instead of taking risks studios want set profits based on known sales

>>87643014
Without Jewish nepotism flooding the film industry for one hundred years, the quality of films in general would be much-higher, and thus worth paying for.

>>87632760
The industry ruined itself by pampering to meaningless minorities.

>>87634755
Thats why i pay for games but pirate movies.

They aren't worth money

>>87634981
D-stroyed Op

>>87636202
I remember this shit in Mexico, you could get legit DVDs of movies that were supposed to come out months after. Fucking faggots who got to the U.S a lot spoiled it for a lot of people. Kinda ruins it when some people have already seen the movie before everyone else.

>>87634755
I agree but I don't like this shit and it definitely doesn't deserve my money.

>>87638836
Well said, you should add that the 30 - 40 age range is also targeted heavily with remakes and reboots of shit from 80s and 90s atm as well

>>87632760
Maybe if you Hollywood jackasses would make a decent film for once in your life, then I'd pay money to see it in theaters.

>>87643051
Too real, my friend. Even calling cinema entertainement today feels like a lie, as most movies do not entertain but use the same old clichés over and over, or have convenient family morals with nothing new on the table.
I do hope that it's a phase though, and that it could one or two solid great art films to open the door again for a new kind.

I think the last movie i saw that actually worth real currency was ... District 9, that was a fantastic movie.

>>87634923
>hundreds
if they were actually losing money, why would the investors keep giving them so much money?

Holywood is a money laundry scheme, pirate away they will be fine.

>>87643051
>There hasn't been a movie released that I would consider art in fucking years anon.

Post your top 10 of the decade then

art is art regardless of your opinion on the matter you mong, you can't 'consider' it.

>>87643055
>Without Jewish nepotism flooding the film industry for one hundred years, the quality of films in general would be much-higher

Without the jews and the french there wouldn't even be cinema, as they were the only ones that didn't see it as a passing novelty but an actual medium to develop.

You sound like the kind of person that blames his shortcomings on the jews.

>>87636486
This.

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>>87643472
>jews invented 24-frames-per-second motion picture

>>87632760
Last time I checked they're still making money hand over fist.
As long they keep making stuff for the lowest common denominator, its not really worth paying for anyways.

>>87635761
GoT turned to shit to have a larger appeal and make more $. Not a good example.

>>87635974
>illegal aliens dont get government assistance
>daca
>sanctuary cities

?????

>>87636272
This season of GoT sucked dick b/c they didnt have the budget to extend the season to 10+ episodes you dumb fucking retard.

>>87635974
>access to K-12 education
>access to medical treatment
Saying they don't get government assistance is misleading as government assistance doesn't include many other things.

>>87638836
but I literally did turn to piracy after getting fucked over on a number of purchases of products that were hyped to hell but total shit. When i turned to piracy it wasn't as easy as it is now, it required effort.

It's the fucking free market, someone is providing your service for cheaper, any attempt to regulate that would make you a filthy commie. :^)

I pirate porn from shemales and traps who think I'm really going to pay 15 dollars to watch them succ dicc on manyvids, please don't take down tpb

>>87644075
No, it sucked because they decided on a number of things that had to happen this season but forgot to write any sort of real justification for those things to happen.

without pirating imagine how much they would be charging for movies/series now in 2017

Imagine how much shit I'd get done if it wasn't for pirating.

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>>87632760
It's kinda sad and amazing how terrified the big industry is of adapting.

They've been crying for two decades and the law has bent over backwards to pat them on the back instead of telling them to up the shut fuck and deal with it, and just now we're finally seeing some change and them actually using modern technology. And they're no worse off than they were before except for the self-inflicted bruising.

>>87644114
I think it's disingenuous to say you pirate because some products weren't as good as you thought they would be. It's up to you to make the informed decision. That being said, if I could pirate more things, I would. No more shit car parts, no more crappy peripherals, no more ill fitting boots, but I actually don't mind paying for good stuff. Just need someone to leave some initial feedback, because you can't trust companies.

If you buy a crappy game though, it's really only your fault, you can see it as punishing the company but if you gave money to the crappy game company and withheld money from the good game company because you were burned by the bad one, you really only hurt yourself

>>87644321
How do you make informed decisions when all information is bought and paid for by the people selling the product?

>>87644528
I guess you could look up consumer reviews of the product. Not that I object to pirating since consumers wanting things for cheaper is just part of the free market.

>>87644528
Exactly, that's why I pirate what I can. Two opposing examples: I use kodi, but bought forza 3. Difference is, TV and movies might not be good, I get em for free because I'm not wasting money on a maybe. Forza is old and there's tons of info for me to say yeah, I guess it's worth 60 bucks.

It's easy to do this with movies and games, harder with other physical things. I don't think I'll ever pay for any movie that isn't a drive through (this Thursday the local drive in its doing 3 back to back Kurosawa films, I'll pay 15 bucks for that).

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>look at price of a bluray movie
>mfw $30
>go to my favorite tracker, click download
>have the bluray in 20 minutes for free
WOW

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>>87644634
You have a drive in theater where you live?

It's all your fault.
Because you fuckers pirate EVERYTHING and by not paying to support what you really want to see in theaters studios have turned to literal millenial kids and the foreign (mainly chinese) audience who do pay for tickets so they can brake even.
You are the reason why we have so much degenerate capeshit being pumped out of Hollywood right now.

Hollywood made great films in the past when people payed and have shown support to films they like financially, so studios kept making quality films with quality directors and writers so people keep coming back. Then torrents came, people stopped paying for films no matter the quality and the studios have started taking literal-who no name directors/writers to make films for as little money as possible for the rest of the audience who are still paying for it, the chinese and millenial kids. Now we're fucked.

>>87632760
FACT, males from 12-45 spend more on movies than any other group, they are also the group that pirates the most.

I would buy something if it wasn't useless.

Go to theather, buy vhs, dvd, bluray, it never fucking ends.
The Jewing from the industry has pushed me too far and I don't want to own any of their crap in non digital form, but they wont supply me, so I will pirate as long as is needed.

>>87643427
Of the decade? I can't even name 10. The Nice Guys, Tucker and Dale vs. Evil, Moana (have a daughter), Wreck-It Ralph, Wall-E. Damn this decade has been fucking piss for film.

>>87644899
What about The Hunt? The Witch? The Great Beauty? Melancholia? Whiplash? Leviathan? The Social Network? The Tree of Life? Drive? The Turin Horse? Sicario? Inside Llewyn Davis? Embrace of the Serpent? Manchester by the Sea? The Master?
All shit?

>>87644899
You actually don't watch movies

>>87645132
District 9 and Pandorum. Forgot those two. Pandorum, The Nice Guys, and Moana were ruined by shitty ass marketing.

>>87632760
I bet you're too young to even know of limewire let alone remember it

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>mfw my friend actually get caught for pirating
>he only got a 800$ penatly

>>87644590
How do you tell the difference between actual consumer reviews and consumer reviews posted by marketers?

>>87645281
I do anon, but I wouldn't dignify 3/4 of the shit coming out now as 'movies'. Maybe 'fliks' at best.
My all time favorite movies:
>Zulu
>Interview with the Vampire
>Fellowship of the Ring
>Master and Commander (unironically)
>Pirates of Carribean 1
>A New Hope
>Dawn of the Dead (original)
>The Thing
>Gladiator

Favorite Shows:
>Rome
>I, Claudius
>Sharpe's Rifles
>Horatio Hornblower
>Outlaw Star

Good. I hope hollywood completely crashes and burns. Fuck the media; I'll pirate everything I want, and I help everyone I know to pirate movies for them too.

And don't even fucking try to tell me that the only reason we have a bunch of derivative capeshit and remake shlock is because of piracy. No, fuck you. I'm going to keep pirating if they continue releasing shitty movies.

>>87645438
Jeez man, did you stop discovering new things after high school? I'm not saying those are bad movies but your taste should evolve at some point, yeesh

>pay $30 for a bluray
>needs internet connection in order to decrypt content
>unskippable anti-piracy ad
>unskippable FBI warning
>unskippable trailers
>menu screen
>unskippable animations leading to "Play movie"

>download torrent
>double-click

...

>>87645467
>he actually says yeesh

yeesh

>>87645438
Anon you are aware that there are films made outside of Hollywood, right? Maybe you could try to see a few of those.
Oh and I don't know if anyone told you, but people made films even before the 80s. Crazy, I know.

>>87645548
most is bollywood, the rest are trying to be hollywood, with maybe six every decade that stand out, like the handmaiden.

>>87645376

>>87645460
>I'm going to keep pirating if they continue releasing shitty movies.
But they continue with releasing shitty movies BECAUSE people like you are not paying for anything that you even like, it's all your fault.
Because you fuckers pirate EVERYTHING and by not paying to support what you really want to see in theaters studios have turned to literal millenial kids and the foreign (mainly chinese) audience who do pay for tickets so they can brake even.
You are the reason why we have so much degenerate capeshit being pumped out of Hollywood right now.

Hollywood made great films in the past when people payed and have shown support to films they like financially, so studios kept making quality films with quality directors and writers so people keep coming back. Then torrents came, people stopped paying for films no matter the quality and the studios have started taking literal-who no name directors/writers to make films for as little money as possible for the rest of the audience who are still paying for it, the chinese and millenial kids. Now we're fucked.

>>87645419
LOL

>>87645599
Incredibly ignorant limited post. Have you seen most of these films >>87645132 ?

>>87645467
Was posting my favorites of 'all time'....not my fault after 3 writer's guild strikes and walkoffs that Hollywood can't produce jack shit in terms of OC anymore. I posted my favorite of the past 10 years here:>>87644899
>>87645297

>>87645548
I, Claudius and Zulu and OG Dawn of the Dead are pre-80s. Look you learned something today.

>>87645654
I already mentioned this:
>And don't even fucking try to tell me that the only reason we have a bunch of derivative capeshit and remake shlock is because of piracy

Fuck off with that bullshit. The main reason they're making bullshit movies is NOT piracy. That's just an ad hoc excuse. Budgets keep going UP exponentially. And the younger generations are the most likely to be doing the piracy.

>>87645698
Half the list is last decade, four are shit, and you didn't include handmaiden.

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>using a public tracker

>>87645654
see
>>87639133

>>87645654
how do I vote with my wallet if there is nothing but shit to spend money on?

>>87632760
>RUINED the industry,
>they are making more money than ever

>>87645783
Literally every single film in that post is from this decade

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>>87645812
Shut up, goy. Just give us your shekels

>>87645812
You're too late, that's the result now, actual auters have been exterminated by the industry if they weren't already millionaires before all of this started happening.
The only people that care about films at all is the A24 group, they are literally hand picking kinos and rereleasing them worldwide for everyone to enjoy them.
The Killing of a Sacred Deer is the current MOTY, certainly go see it when it's officialy released.

Are you from /v/ by any chance, OP? Anti-piracy and DRM fags are rampart in there.
This >>87645497 is exactly how I feel. It's not 30 US shekels though, about 10, but still.

>>87645833
Only a select few (mainly capeshit), everything that doesn’t have a big budget mass marketing is fucked financially.

>>87645941
horray, ya got me.

the only good movies in that list are more than five years old and there's a notable downward trend as time goes on.

The good movies were just that, good, okay, passable. Nothing that really blew me away. The best movie on the list is probably a tossup between the hunt and inside llewyn davis.

>>87646119
This. And also, the selection of watch-whenever-you-want movies on platforms like netflix and HBO are usually dogshit too

>>87646058
But I was spending money on the great movies that would come out, rarely.

reminder that hollywood actively sought out and destroyed independent film and erased their own mid-budget divisions in order to create a situation where the only movies coming out either had their branding or cost hundreds of millions, all for the sake of changing film form a creative endevour to a predictable investment opportunity.

>>87646058
You're putting the cart before the horse, shlomo. The shitty modern movies were not due to piracy. That was their own decisions to go with billion dollar movies that need to pull in ridiculous numbers internationally to break even. And this desire for bloated expensive movies is what leads to them being derivative trash, because no one is willing to take a risk when a movie costs 500 million (+ tip).

It's the exact same situation that's happened with video games. Companies like EA and Ubisoft just shitting out games that cost millions, but are the same thing every time. And they've been doing this for a very long time, and all they do is ruin franchises and studios. It's not because of piracy.

>>87646240
This. The issue is that we only get big budget movies. And the bigger the budget, the "safer" you're going to be. This means sequels, reboots, etc.

There is hope lads.
I would say that it's just a cycle like in any other artform, today's capeshit is the same thing as the massively produced westerns or zombie flicks in the 80s, at a certain point even the most casual viewers will become fed up with it and something else will replace it. Capeshit has already hit it's peak, it's all downhill from there.
As for remakes/reboots I'm afraid that will always stay present, but that doesn’t mean that big budget studio rehashes are all there is in Hollywood, bad films were always made.

Also I hope you are not excluding yourself from the rest of the world's vast film industry, not only Hollywood blockbusters. Today you have thousand times more options to view a great film from any part of the world (or period) than ever before.

>>87634755
lmao, IMAGINE being brainwashed enough to think you feel satisfaction by giving up your hard earned money to WB or Disney, or HBO

>>87646293
and that would be fine if hollywood hadn't actively sought out and exterminated any entity with the potential to engage in risk.

>>87633374
This, you would have to pay for about 8-10 subscriptions to enjoy 1 or 2 shows from each service, fuck that noise.

>>87646633
lmao, IMAGINE being such an ignorant limited brainlet casual to think that only the biggest american corporations is all there is to films

>>87646901
Its like buying a record and thinking you're supporting the artist, and not the label.

Go to a concert if you want to support the artist. There are no "concerts." for film.

>>87644886
Except it happened atleast twice before. In fact, this wave of high budget capeshit is reminiscent of the wave of high budget epics in the fifties when TV was introduced. Another blow was the introduction of VHS and movie-taping.

Don't fall for the crocodile tears of the movie industry. Demand quality product for lower price, especially given the technology is here to faciliate that. If they fail to deliver, steal those movies and show them it's ultimately the customer, not the producer who dictates the terms. If they threaten to stop making movies, all the better.

>>87646937
Yes by buying tickets in cinema you are first and foremost paying the studio, but that same studio will give the director of that film even more money than to make a yet another film. If the studio doesn’t get any money, the director will more than likely not be granted to do another movie and because of that no other studio would give him the same amount of budget, if any.
Also film festivals are the "concerts" for film.

>>87647068
>show them it's ultimately the customer, not the producer who dictates the terms
And by "showing" them, today the average chinese consumer dictates what the next Hollywood film will be like.

>>87647084
We've already gone over why that's irrelevant. There's nothing but shit in the theaters and hollywood actively disregards any tickets sold by movies they didn't spend hundreds of millions to make and market.

>>87635241
because he's a brain-dead millennial faggot

>>87647177
>There's nothing but shit in the theaters
What about A Ghost Story? Raw? Dunkirk? The Killing of a Sacred Deer? The Shape of Water?

>>87647162
So? Sooner or later, even the Chinks will learn how to pirate or start making their own capeshit since copying the West is their no.1 hobby.

>>87647298
>and hollywood actively disregards any tickets sold by movies they didn't spend hundreds of millions to make and market.

apart form nolan (whos shit) you keep posting films that only got, maybe, one screening per state.

>>87632990
If bluray wasn't for $60 I would buy most of content I watch. Imo it should be buyable for $10 and rental for 1-2 dollars

>>87632990
People turned to piracy because it's convenient. If I had the option of streaming any movie I want without having to pay membership to 5 different streaming services I would take it over pirating films. The mess that the industry is in now is because of their own lack of will to change to suit modern audience expectation.

>>87633232
>autism

>>87647335
Nope, chinks don't even like chinese films and they go to the theaters as a social event, they just want big american actors to do something for 2 hours, some explosions and that's it.

And the copying of the west has stopped for quite some time now, they learned all they needed and today china has the biggest yearly number of patents being made in the entire world.

>>87633097
I think he was bitching about how they keep making PG-13 films starring younger and younger girls and boys and they aren't naked.

>>87634283
I don't give a shit about how much niggers, hippies or whores earn

>>87646133
globally they're making more money go check boxofficemojo

>>87647407
they got plenty screenings, with internet and piracy reducing ticket sales for big budget movies, theaters have started doing more indie and foreign films
and RAW was pretty popular after its infamous Cannes screening

>>87647335
Chink web has top tier piracy sites but I don't know the runes to access it.

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>>87634755
>liking anything
nice try pal

>>87634695
This, getting tricked by the media Jew, may it be videogames, software or movies/TV shows, they just did it too much, false advertising, false box art, false presentation, false trailers, straight up lies, too many remakes.

At some point a man has had enough of getting scammed and won't ever give a cent up before throughoutly giving the product a free try, or straight up saying, fuck them, I've had enough.

>>87647454
Where the fuck do you find blurays for $60? They are mostly between the $10-$20 if it's something new, much less if older.
I mean a standard Criterion release is about $30, and even they have multiple 50% off sales in a year.

>>87647714
>false box art

The horror section at blockbuster used to be hotter than the porn section at seedier video chains.

>>87647512
>big american actors

Where is Hollywood going to get those if the Western audiences won't watch their movies?

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>>87632760
>you RUINED the industry

gud

>>87647865
They keep putting random teenage actors along with the big ones so I presume whichever of those teens get's most praised in china will be the main protagonist afterwards.

>>87638222
>movies could be made with literally 1/10 of their budgets

This is something NEVER in this threads like to say.
No one has the balls or the intelligence to say "actors shouldn't cash million and millions every movie".

This is somehow ok for everyone in this threads. Am I the only one that see this as a major problem in the movie business?

>>87646434
The problem is one of degree. Sure, there have been fads/trends/etc in movies, but the issue is that the current market means that the fad movies (capeshit and such) make up a far larger proportion of modern movies than westerns or anything like that ever did.

The issue is the focus on giant bloated budgets. This means the studios can take less risks, they focus on doing the same things over and over again, etc. There have always been trends, but it's never been like today, where the vast majority of these blockbuster movies are part of the trend. At no point in history have movies been so fucking needlessly bloated and expensive like this. That's what's stifling the creativity.

There's also the fact that capeshit can be molded to fit any genre. Before, you had action movies, adventure movies, mystery movies, horror movies, etc etc etc. But now? All of these different types of genres are rolled into one amorphous "capeshit" movie genre. You don't have action, adventure, horror, comedy, etc. You have elements of these things within the context of capeshit. Capeshit capeshit capeshit.

>>87644886
>call people degenerate
>want hollywood to survive
even the most insignificant crew member on a movie is a full coke addict child rapist

>>87647068
Exactly. I cannot fucking stand all this boohoo bullshit from the giant movie studios bitching and trying to blame literally everyone else for their problems except themselves. They need to come to terms with the fact that they're making shitty derivative shlock, and that is why people don't want to watch their bullshit. They're at a time where there are more markets across the world open to them than ever before, and they still have the fucking nerve to act like they're some little guy down on his luck.

Maybe they should stop spending a billion dollars per movie.

>>87648192
But that's like 0.01% of films, only the biggest Hollywood studio franchises.
It's like complaining how Christiano Ronaldo get's ridiculous amount of money for kicking a ball, while 99% of soccer players are barely living from it.

>>87632760
Movies are dying, it's all about TV Series now.

>>87647773
Horror movies were basically the catalyst for me to stop my blockbuster membership, and go find bootleg pirated VHS.
Yeah the quality was not as good, but I was paying a fraction of the cost when compared to a blockbuster rental, and I got to keep the movie forever.
And some guys even let you return the movies if you didn't like it and exchange it for another one for half the price, so I was able to leave his "store" with 20 fucking movies in my arms for the price of 2 blockbuster movies.

>>87645438
Nice choices anon. Other anons here will shit on you just cos.

>>87648328
I hope all TV series die off, literally the only thing that matters in a TV series is the characters, every other filmmaking element is completely ignored, especially in the long run.
Such a pathetic producers medium.

Every time you pirate Transformers: The Last Knight a Jewish Hollywood exec dies of heart disease

NIGHTMARE MODE: you have to watch it each time before you pirate it again

it's actually pretty fun tho

No pirating didn't ruin the media

What ruined the media was the the fact that hollywood doesn't like to innovate or like using the free market.

If they really thought piracy was that much of a problem, why not invest money into trying to get a video that is impossible to decode or copy to another disk?

>>87648294
>But that's like 0.01% of films
What's your point? That's 50% of Hollywood money

>>87647973
>the post
>the picture
this is beautiful
you are making me laugh out loud in public great job

>>87648294
>>87648294
>It's like complaining how Christiano Ronaldo get's ridiculous amount of money for kicking a ball, while 99% of soccer players are barely living from it.
That's a real, valid and ongoing complain. Stadiums have a fixed amount of seats. That's a fixed amount of income on full seats every game. If Ronaldo is payed 200 million and asks for 300 million, where do you think the money will come from?

You don't pay more for a movie ticket when the lead actor double his fees for a sequel.

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You know what ruined the media?
Idiots without proper cinematic training watching movies.

>>87644886
Like it or not, most studios today gain back their money with movie theater release money. Not DVD sales or Netflix options.

Since it's nearly impossible to pirate the copy if it's still in theaters unless you want a shitty camRip.

Even so, piracy is what killed blockbuster video rental stores. And why movies are still big budget fuckfests.

>>87648838
how do I get trained into Kino?
any decent build and stats points distribution?
is the engame any good?

>>87648705
Do you think that the stadium tickets is the only revenue clubs get? Are you aware that most of their profit comes from trading players and winning tournaments? They train young players and then sell for millions to other clubs. Tickets are just one small number of a whole.
Also the sponsors are a whole another thing, club sponsors, individual player sponsors etc. Ronaldo get's a quick 10 million euro just by being in a short 10 second ad for a product.

>>87644075
lmao where did you get that from, it was because D&D got fed up of GoT even though HBO wanted them to do a full season since it is a cash cow

>>87637437
mother fucker, it's about movies that would otherwise not be seen becuase it doesn't have lore or canon, now people don't give a fuck aboutovies they don't know anything about and will never see them even if they are future classics, dip shit you don't understand fuck all

>>87648940
>all other facts and quality refutes aside piracy is killing things and ruining the medium
Yea ok Mr. Hollywood. I can't even name 3 movies worth pirating this year.

>>87649538
Someone should make a list of films that would NEVER get made in today's climate. You hacker huffers fucked the industry real bad. Only capeshit and reboots n sequels survive. Dense dip shit these millenials, entitled spoiled cock suckers. They WILL pay.

>>87650459
Shut the fuck up weinstein? You gonna arrest 60 million people? Hell you cheated an entire election and rigged the votes, had your cadre shill....and STILL couldn't defeat a fucking cheeto that entered politics 1 year ago. Let alone doing anything about the media revolution. Go sit down now sonny.

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>>87648838

Its not about training or knowledge of cinema I think.

since jaws and starwars when this blockbuster shit started studios slowly turned to milk same franchise and it was less risky. they also aimed wider audience (pg 13). but since early 2000s it became a lot worse. All this stupid fantasy kid movies and capeshit...