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Why are there no right-wing comedians?

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Why are there no right-wing comedians?
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>>87629551
Comedians don't have any actual talents and have to appease their masters by grinning and joking
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Networks wont allow such illegal opinions
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They're not allowed on TV
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no one needs to make fun of the left it's already a joke
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>>87629551
Being right-winged implies hating fun
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>>87629604
Kek
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The right is inherently unfunny. It's based on a sense of order, tradition, structure, things that aren't really funny. Leftism is inherently grounded in fantasy and silliness (we'll like, get rid of the money and like, we'll all be rich man!), so it lends itself well to comedy.
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>>87629551
humour is inherently liberal (i.e. far-left)
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Alex Jones is funnier than John Oliver and I'm not even right or center.
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For the same reason Christian rap/rock fucking sucks
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>>87629551
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>>87629664
The fact that you believe this is the funniest thing in this thread.
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>>87629675
Would you agree that Gavin McInnes is funnier than a guy like Colbert?
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It's almost like there's a conspiracy to keep anyone that would challenge the leftist self destruction of the west silent. Who could it be?
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>>87629551
Because there's nothing funny about the oppression of minorities
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>>87629604
OH SHIT!!
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>>87629664
How have you made it thru life being this stupid?
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>>87629750
But invading and colonizing places is hysterical....when it's done by shitskins, at least.
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they're too busy raising livestock, growing food and building things.
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>>87629688
>>87629773
Not an argument
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There are plenty of libertarian comics who I guess are economically on the right, but super conservative and authoritarian preferences tend not to mix well with humor.
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>>87629721
No.
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>>87629675
Don't forget Ghost from Capitalist Radio.
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>>87629749
Yes, that must be exactly it.
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is there even such thing as a comedian in the current year?
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The establishment doesn't allow dissent.
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Because right wingers aren't funny, at least not intentionally
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>>87629551
The closest you're going to get is Norm
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>>87629551

Being right wing means your general views are inherently not funny and very difficult to make good jokes about.

Not saying all right wing opinions are not worthy but they're not worthy of any joke. I mean we've got lolbertarians out there. They're a joke and more left wing swinging but even they're not good on jokes. Penn and Teller are those and they're jokes were shitting on stupid things but it wasn't a real joke.

The far right were just not designed for jokes and comedy.
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>>87629749
>call out the jews
>blackballed forever

What an interesting question this poses
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>>87629551
Colin Quinn
Jim Norton
Patrice O'neal
Greg Giraldo
Nick Dipalo
Adam Carolla
Anthony Cumia

All these people had great shows on tv/radio but were taken away in the 2000s for not being PC enough.

Rightwing Comedy cannot survive since liberals are fucking bleeding heart pussies, and threaten to sue everyone who doesn't pander to PC culture.
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>>87629856
>he still thinks conservatives aren't mostly the establishment outside of comedy shows and some movies.
>doesn't realize how old the "liberal media" boogeyman is.
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>>87629899
>Rightwing Comedy cannot survive since liberals are fucking bleeding heart pussies, and threaten to sue everyone who doesn't pander to PC culture.
Is that why you people were throwing a bitch fit over a severed rubber head?
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>>87629899
Jim Norton is still on the radio. Is he really right-wing though?
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>>87629899

Not a single one of those you posted were "right wing." They would have laughed at Fox News in the day and mocked Breitbart/Trump/Alt Right today.

They were left as fuck. You can't be right and do comedy. That's the joke.
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>>87629551
There are plenty of them on the radio.
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>>87629903
>outside of comedy shows and "SOME" movies
>the actual majority of hollywood
>and cable news
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Because Comedy is inherent to intellectuals and those with artistic tendencies, something the right never has had or will have.
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This is the pinnacle of right wing comedy
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>>87629962
Nick DiPaolo is on the radio every day talking about how much he loves Trump. Anthony Cumia is quite fond of him too.
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>>87629899
>the left are bleeding heart pussies
>waaaa she had a fake trumps head
>waaaa they put a black person in star wars
>waaaa shut down SJW courses in universities

The irony is fucking unbelievable and you can't even see it.
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>>87629962
true most of them aren't very right-wing, if at all
calling Anthony Cumia "left as fuck" is a bit much though. He's basically a doomsday prepper with a job in showbiz.
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>>87629962
Half those people sure as fuck aren't very liberal. Not modern PC liberal at least.
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Is Norm right wing?
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>>87630046

No one even knows who the fuck nick dipalo is outside of the couple roasts he was in
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>>87630077
Few comics are though. They're generally left leaning but anti-PC.
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>>87629664
was it autism?
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>>87629551
Only liberals will spend the kind of time and money needed to support a "comedy" show in order to reassure themselves that they have the right opinions and therefore can't be the braindead retards that their lives suggest they are.
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>>87630046

Do you hear about them anymore other than on talk radio? Do you see stand up about them? No. Because they're just imbittered old assholes and it's not a routine anymore. They're what you become when all your creativity is gone. Nobody gives a fuck or laughs at people like that.

George Carlin was the same shit later on. It's terrible. You'd might as well go to Bitter Church at that point. It's the same thing as Regular Church. You go there to hear your sermon and hate instead of love.
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>>87629993
>the actual majority of hollywood
Plenty of conservatives in Hollywood, buddy. You've just brainwashed yourself into thinking they don't exist.
>and cable news
Still, one of the most watched "news" outlets is conservative.

But keep on perpetuating your autistic persecution complex, since that's the mental gymnastic you need to convince yourself of victimhood. Abloo abloo, now you run every level of government...but liberals make movies! That's just unfair!
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>>87630063
I'm surprised you can see anything with your head that far up your ass
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpg2TF5hEPo
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>>87630157
DiPaolo had a stand up special pretty recently on SeeSo.
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>>87630077
Maybe, PC is a meme?
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>>87630159
>Plenty
Name ten
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it's like there are parts of human existence that aren't funny and that people have to deal with
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>>87629551
RIGHT WING = FOR MAKING MONEY

Thusly, EVERY comedian is right-wing because THEY LIKE TO MAKE MONEY.

>>87629668
Liberal =/= left what so fucking ever.
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>>87630096

He's Canadian, I don't think it's possible for him to be right wing

People make the mistake of thinking comedians who have politically neutral material are automatically right wing
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>>87630208
>here's a pointless metric that if you don't meet, I'll "win". Checkmate!
It's like you people want to be victims, just like SJWs. Mel Gibson made a film just last year that was nominated for a fucking Oscar.
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>>87629962
Half those guys have BEEN on Fox News, retard.

And someone tell me why >>87629664 Is wrong while you're at it.
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>>87630252
>pointless metric
>can't even name 10 because hollywood is lefty land

kek
I can't even name 10 senpai
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>>87629790
I wasn't trying to make an argument. You wouldn't know that, though. MAGA, right?
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>>87630263

My dick could be on fox news. It's small and unnecessary just like nearly everyone on there.
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>>87629551

Because >>87629595 is about as witty as they get
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So... DRUMPF
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>>87630096
>>87630246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqECl-5BiA4
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>>87629664
Jokes have a lot more tradition and structure than you think.
All the Seinfeld guys are conservatives. Chris Rock is basically a conservative.

Leftist comedians who admire "fantasy and silliness" are always getting up there to preach tolerance and atheism and complain about police violence and 1984 shit.
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>>87630096
He admitted to voting Trudeau.
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>>87629749
There isn't. "Right-wing" comedians are everywhere, and they've got the biggest audiences.
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>>87630096

Norm is a brilliant asshole. I'd like the think he gives less of a fuck about politics than you could believe.
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Typically, good comedy taps into truths we all know. The left doesn't believe in those, so most of their humor is just curse word and bodily function-based.
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>>87629750
Right wing comedians exist and none of them joke about lynching niggers.

Also, there very much is. Particularly when it's taboo to find such humor.
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>>87629773
>>87629688
Genuinely curious, what did I get wrong? The right isn't particularly funny. It's boring. The left is based on wild promises, it's fun.
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>>87630286
You're just being retarded
>Mel Gibson
>Drew Carey
>The Rock (registered Republican)
>Robert Downey Jr. (May have flip flopped here and there for money, but was a self-proclaiming conservative)
>Jerry Bruckheimer
>Melissa Joan Hart
>Kelsey Grammer
>Jon Lovitz
>Rob Schneider
>Tom Selleck
>James Woods
>Gary Oldman
>David S. Goyer
>David Zucker
>James Caan
>Michael Caine
>Robert Duvall
>Clint Eastwood
(And more)

Eat shit, retard. You're just falling for decades old memes and trying to play victim.
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>>87629551
Glenn Beck is legitimately funny when he's not ranting about how the world is collapsing around us and to buy gold.
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>>87630393

Good topical comedy has always been shitting on each other in good spirits. Social media has started destroying this in general.

This doesn't mean right wingers get some sort of plus on this. It just means dandy flakes on the left need to get the stick out of their ass and get back to their roots and let comedians do their work.
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>>87630314
#roasted
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>>87629551
Comedy is for children.
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>>87629903
Nigger you cannot be serious if you think places like NYC and LA and Portland and Austin and every other major city in the US isn't swarming with democrats and democrat leadership. How do you think Obama got 8 years in an establishment conservative nation?
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>>87629551
But neo libs ARE right wing
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Why are most MENSA members left-leaning?

Why are most scientists left-leaning?

why are most self-made billionaires left-leaning?

why are most doctors left-leaning?

why are most engineers left-leaning?

why are most scholars and academics left-leaning?

why are the highest IQ regions in the world left-leaning?

why are the highest IQ states left-leaning?

the only thing right-leaning individuals dominate are low-skill, low IQ areas like truck driving, ditch digging, infantry, etc.. Also religious institutions and third world shitskin dictatorships.
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>>87629962
What's your definition of right wing? Hates niggers and science?
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Alex Jones is funnier than any """""comedian"""""" out there.
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>>87630556
c i t a t i o n
n e e d e d
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>>87629551
Because the truth isnt funny
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>>87629551
Right wing people think theyre too good for it
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>>87630538
>this means conservatives don't exist.
They still sadly, win more elections. I'm not retarded enough to ignore that.
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>>87630556
>why are most engineers left-leaning?
lel, please go back to plebbit
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>>87629749
>My jokes are shitty because jews

this is why there are no successful right wing comedians.
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>>87630583
Yeah, but does he know he's being funny?
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>>87630538
>How do you think Obama got 8 years in an establishment conservative nation?
By being popular?
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Cause thdyre always WRONG.
BADUP BAP BUDAP BAP.
GOOD NIGHT LADIES
*Exit left
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>>87630556
Because to get their degrees they have to go to colleges full of far left professors.
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>>87629551
There are, but they don't talk about politics when they do comedy.
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>>87630634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJcYgWbaRtE

Yes
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>>87630634
Yes. He believes everything he says, but he is purposefully entertaining.
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>>87629721
yes, if you are talking about the tonight show and not the colbert report
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>>87630611
engineering jobs are like 75% democrat, 25% republican

http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/

at least you have motel owner. The white race shall endure through giving minority tourists bedbugs
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>>87630655
>the "well, the liberals control everything, that's why they are successful" conspiratard meme.
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Right wingers can't have fun
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>>87629749
Black people.
OF COURSE IT WAS SO OBVIOUS
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>>87630673
I really really really like this video.
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>>87629749
>stereotypes portray Jewish people as rabid capitalists who control the world
>/pol/ subverts this by saying that they are communists
>this only helps the capitalists controlling the world
Really, REALLY made me think.
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>>87630503
Melissa Joan god damn Hart, are you for fucking real, ese?
Rob Schneider and John Lovitz?
What fucking Hollywood are you watching?

Get your head out of your ass, of course there are conservatives in hollywood but the industry as a whole trends VICIOUSLY left and is DOMINATED by Jews.
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>>87630700
>degree in interpretive racial bitching via dance
>success
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>>87630655
so conservative people can't become a doctor? source?
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>>87629604
This
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>>87629551
Because it isnt ok to make fun of left-wing ideas in a left-wing population. A change in political thought will give rise to a change in politcal commentators, which will in turn give rise to comedians.
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>>87629946
STFU if somebody on Fox News or even a run of the mill conservative had done the same thing to Obama you guys would have had a similar or worse hissy fit.
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>>87630749
Of course they can, but after being indoctrinated by far leftists, there are probably more liberal doctors than conservatives.
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>>87630538
>NIGGER!
>da cities are INFESTED with political parties me no likey
>hol up
>so you be saying
>(smacks cowboy boots)
>that we
>(laughs at blacks)
>we wuz
>not a minority party?
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Lost his show for being right wing
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>>87630793
The liberal grinch only exists in the social sciences. In most of STEM you'll have center-right/left being the norm.
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>>87630736
>asks for a list of ten
>here's close to 20 I can name off the top of my head
>"WOAH I CAN'T EVEN! MELISSA JOAN HART??? PSHHHHH! COME ON!"
>ignores Jerry Bruckheimer, Micheal Caine, Gary Old man, Clint Eastwood and Mel Gibson.
You lost, faggot.
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>>87630645
The most popular presidential candidate - leans left.
Music, Television, Journalism, Cinema - all lean left
Every college population - left-leaning

And the establishment left doesn't exist. You're nuts.

>>87630599
"Conservatives don't exist" is not the argument, kiddo.
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>>87630692
It's actually kind of interesting, the doctors and engineers are mostly left-leaning, thanks in no small part to so many of them being minorities. Meanwhile the guys who sign their checks and prosecute the shit out of them in medical malpractice suits are the same WASPs who have been doing it for centuries.
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>>87630556
>why are most doctors left-leaning?
>why are most engineers left-leaning?
they arnt
http://www.machinedesign.com/news/politics-engineers
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/07/upshot/your-surgeon-is-probably-a-republican-your-psychiatrist-probably-a-democrat.html?mcubz=0

engineering is one of the most conservative fields and specialty doctors are overwhelmingly conservative with the only significantly liberal leaning medical professions being infectious disease (AIDS, general STD) and psychiatrists (pseudo science)
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Thread is more proof 4chan (and by extent, most of social media) has no idea how to into politicanz and economicalz.
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>>87630779
>b-b-but you too!
Exactly, some would. That doesn't excuse the behavior, kid.
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>>87630645
It's more than that. Obama was popular, but he was from Chicago, a city dominated by democrats. He was promoted by media in NY and LA, cities dominated by democrats. Those are the three biggest cities in the country, all heavily left-wing, and they have a massive impact on national media. Even Fox News is based in New York.
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>>87630793
lots of faux liberals in academia actually. people who espouse the ideals of diversity but are totally against income redistribution or any of that shit. takes about 3 months as a graduate student to realize how disingenuous the liberalism in academia can be.
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There are right wing comedians. It's just a more niche comedy appeal.

I enjoy the comedy of (on youtube)
>E;R
>EmptyHero
>UgandaPizzaPolice
>Internet Historian
>MDE (KSTV especially)
>Sassy and Opinionated
>ThanksComputer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dse2MFeo3Xk&ab_channel=UgandaPizzaPolice

tell me this isn't funny. watch the entire thing
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>>87629551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkZM1cFxYIM
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>>87630793
True, but the doctors are center-left. Not hardcore leftists. Mainly because they know damn well that in a socialist society their paychecks would get cut in half. Compare doctor's pay in the USA to doctor's pay in the UK, there's a reason the only people willing to be doctors in Britain these days are Paki/Indian immigrants.
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>>87630892
>Music, Television, Journalism, Cinema - all lean left
I just thoroughly explained how most of this is either a meme or just a natural leaning over time, not some organized conspiracy like you retards pretend.
>And the establishment left doesn't exist. You're nuts.
Sure is funny how this "establishment left" only exists in movie making yet can't hold seats or win majority elections. I guess that must be part of the Jewish 5D basketweaving ruse game.
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>>87630886
Actually that isn't me, I will concede you made a list of 10.
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>>87630736

>if they're jewish they're left wing

it's like you don't know what words mean
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>>87630955
>a lot of people were liberal, and voted Obama in higher turnouts.
Woah, you are onto something big!
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>>87630910
engineers are overwhelmingly democrat

http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/

surgeons (the dumb meatcutters) are mostly republican though yes, though doctors in general dominate with leftists
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>>87630314
I lost
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>>87631052
>verdantlabs
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>>87630722
>>87630888
Why is everybody on Anthony's shitty network so unfamous?
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>>87630955
>I blame nebulous Democrats for why my party is usually unpopular in highly populated areas. This somehow stops me from enjoying conservative directors and whatever capeshit they produce.
Imagine if I said that conservatives were stopping me from watching flicks? I'd look like a retard.
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>>87631003
/pol/ RAPED HARD
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>>87631052
>libtards think prescription drug dispensers that are getting replaced by a google ai within 10 years are more respectable than surgeons
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>>87629962
bullshit, they all late lefties for destroying comedy
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Pic related is TWO dimensions. I know, fascinating and never-before-seen, right.
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>>87629849
Michael Che
Deon Cole
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>>87631107
>you may be right, but I don't think the job is respectable so checkmate ;)
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>>87630886
I'm a different fellow.

And MJH hasn't been in hollywood in literal decades. No, she does not count.
Your list of ten is ill-chosen and does not disprove a lefty bias because it isn't representative of the current state of the business.

A bias which killed Mel and almost killed Gary.
Conservative Eastwood directed Letters to Iwo Jima and depicted Americans as the enemy.
I like the guy, he's certainly more conservative than your average millenial hollywooder, but
1)his era has expired
2)he's way more flexible than your average tolerant lefty in the business out campaigning against every single act donald trump carries out
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>>87631092
they aren't jewish and don't preach SJW bullshit and call it comedy.


Why are unfunny comedians with zero talent famous?
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>>87631052
The website doesnt even list how they get their data
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>>87630886
>Micheal Caine

Mike hasn't been in a conservative movie since the 70s. Even in the context of that era he was probably the most liberal guy around.
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>>87630853
>Dave Smith
>Funny
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I've honestly thought about some standup jokes about muslims but I don't know if they would bomb if actually performed. For example one would be about when you see a girl in a full hijab who dyed their hair red, and the punchline would be - "I'm not even muslim and even I wanted to behead her for that" How would a general audience react to jokes like that?
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>>87630556
>why are most engineers left-leaning?
Im in chemistry graduate school and my research proctor blames the US on not going metric because "all the engineers are republican" (verbatim) and this is not a close minded or dumb man. I would easily put him in the top 1000 in the world in his field.
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>>87629551
this is why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1t8toPJNyE
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>>87629686
Too bad it's a terrible Stern rip off
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>>87631207
It really depends on the crowd.
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>>87631137
>surely everyone who laughs at my dumbass points is the same person
>surely this one source means i won the argument even though the guy i was arguing with also provided sources
ok idiot
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>>87630252
So you can't name ten
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>>87629551
>be right-wing comedian
>'offend' 'somebody'
>get fired
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>>87631148
>And MJH hasn't been in hollywood in literal decades.
She still is acting you autist.
>No, she does not count.
Lol, oh...here we go. Here's the bargaining.
>Your list of ten is ill-chosen and does not disprove a lefty bias because it isn't representative of the current state of the business.
Jerry goddamn Bruckheimer isn't? He continues to produce massive blockbuster films.
>A bias which killed Mel and almost killed Gary.
Mel crashed a car drunk screaming about Jews and Gary punched his wife, you going to be an apologetic for DUIs and assault now?
>Conservative Eastwood directed Letters to Iwo Jima and depicted Americans as the enemy.
Lol you didn't watch the film.
>I like the guy, he's certainly more conservative than your average millenial hollywooder, but
He is perhaps THE most conservative director I can think of.
1)his era has expired
He just directed a film a year ago...
>2)he's way more flexible than your average tolerant lefty in the business out campaigning against every single act donald trump carries out
How in the fuck is that a point?

Hardly any of this made sense, holy shit you are dumb. Would you like a list of more actors, directors and producers or are you so entrenched in your goofy brainwashing where you will just fight me on evety conservative I mention?
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Get this shit off /tv/, faggot reditor
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>>87631192
The argument was "conservative actors, producers and directors in Hollywood" Mr. Goalpost. Not the FILM being conservative.
>well he's a secret liberal teehee
Kill yourself.
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>>87631045
No, my point is that there is a liberal establishment, and Obama benefited from that. If he had stayed in his mother's home state of Kansas he would have never even been a Senator, let alone President.

>>87631100
What the fuck are you on about? When did I say anything about conservative directors?
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>>87631014
>can't hold seats or win majority elections
It literally flips every president.
The media however, is consistently left. That tips the balance.

>not some organized conspiracy like you retards pretend.
I don't pretend this. But thank you for acknowledging the trend exists. Consider now that it doesn't matter whether it's a conspiracy or not, it's clearly reinforced itself and grown with time.
It's not a conspiracy that southerners are statistically worse off then the rest of the nation in violence and education, but that doesn't mean the establishment politics there aren't an issue.
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>>87630503
You can't think of ten so you have to lie
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>>87631316
>I can't accept that he gave me more than ten so they must be lies
Whatever you need to tell yourself.
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Love Dave Smith
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>>87629551

Because of (((Hollywood))). If you want real comedy, then you have to look to the past.

Sam Kinison's plan to end homelessness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_xDdpT4YwQ
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>>87629551
Because we confirmed, what we all thought, through wikileaks that most of the mainstream media is totally compromised by politicians.
Here's a good video explaining how the logistics of such an operation could take place.
https://youtu.be/PLxtpZwrrGs
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>>87629551
free market capitalism
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>>87631261
I named 18...
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>>87631309
>there is a liberal establishment (which needs to exist for me to feel justified in my persecution complex) because sometimes Dems win general elections. Oh, and sometimes there are movies about gays being people.
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>>87631207
>lmao muslims suck!!!!

This is the level of cleverness conservatives can muster.
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>>87631201
>Amy Schumer
>Sarah Silverman
>Patton Oswalt
>Stephen Colbert
>Stephen Oliver
>Bill Maher

>Funny
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>>87631378
This so badly.

Also I want to point out that the whole "left-right" thing is a farce made to generalize and categorize people and only ever means anything when measuring economic policy. Because right wing means capitalist and the vast majority of comedians are individually compensated monetarily for their service, it makes them automatically right wing because they're not complaining.
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>>87630735
>communism for thee but not for me
Communism is destruction of the mind, it's not just some "alternative" economic system.
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>>87631450
That isn't the point of the joke at all. It is a joke about a person exercising an ultra-conservative religion while also ignoring the spirit behinds its tenets. (Women wear hijabs to not show their looks, while the woman is dying her hair red to look more flashy)
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>>87631450
>lmao white males amirite
really energizes the neurons
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>>87631486
what i meant is that there simply is not a high demand for right-wing comedy
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>>87631491
North Korea is the only communist country.
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>>87631313
>The media however, is consistently left
Again, one of the most consistent and watched programs in the country, continues to be conservative. So either you need to grapple with the fact that less people identify with conservative ideas over time and that's where you think this control is coming from, or double down as if it's some sort of unfair representation.
>But thank you for acknowledging the trend exists
No faggot, I am merely acknowledging that this is a meme that exists, not a trend.
>It's not a conspiracy that southerners are statistically worse off then the rest of the nation in violence and education, but that doesn't mean the establishment politics there aren't an issue.
I have no clue what this even means.
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>>87630193
holy shit it's Mandark
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>>87631434
>there is a liberal establishment (which needs to exist for me to feel justified in my persecution complex)
Seriously, what on earth are you talking about? I'm a registered Democrat. When have I posted anything about a persecution complex, or about movies involving gay people? Of course there's a liberal establishment, otherwise Democrats would never win anything. There's a conservative establishment too. That's the foundation for each party.
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>>87630735
Bakunin explained this shit before there was even a USSR.
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>>87631516
Show me a single popular comedian where "lmao white males, right"? Was a punchline.
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>>87631273
The list isn't representative. If you want to show that hollywood doesn't have a left bias, you need to produce a representative list that illustrates politically neutral or right-wing bias.

It's simple. Look up which movies are pulling the most audiences, which actors are the most active, how the establishment recognizes it's best (the academy awards), and show how frequently the right-wing or the neutral messages dominate.

I brought up Trump because I have a strong feeling you want to prove this obviously bogus idea about a conservative hollywood because you feel threatened by right-wingers and think lefties are justified or shouldn't be addressed.
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>>87631335
Some people in the list are not conservatives.
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>>87631599
Well I'm fairly popular in my house, does it count?
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>>87631207
no wordplay, no surprising reveal of humorous intent, no irony.

just combination of "fuck mudslimes lmao" and "fuck SJWs lmao"

uninspired, uncreative, and unfunny you dumb nigger
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>>87631382
Posted before I saw your list
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>>87631582
I'm not arguing that both major parties have extreme political clot, you were coming off as if liberal parties being powerful was somehow above and beyond fair. I want you to also understand that for the last 50 straight years, conservatives have held onto more seats, won more elections, push more legislation (more like hammer it in) and generally ARE the power you need to bring truth to.
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>>87631635
I guess you just don't get the irony. I like my joke
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>>87629750
Dude, shut the fucking hell up forever.
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>>87631599

Jonathan Leibowitz. Does that answer your question?
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>>87631301
>conservatives are mostly the establishment outside of comedy shows and some movies.

This is what you were trying to prove. For some reason that morphed into "there are plenty of conservatives in hollywood".
Plenty doesn't cut it when you're talking about the establishment as a whole. There are "plenty conservatives", but there are WAY more liberals, with WAY more weight.
The fact is that "some movies" have liberal bias is a blatant understatement.
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>>87629664
Brainlet.
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>>87631497
DEEP
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>>87631603
>the list isn't representative because I don't like it.
Just fucking stop posting, your nonsense points are desperate as shit.
>and show how frequently the right-wing or the neutral messages dominate
What in the absolute fuck even is a "right wing message"? Where are the goalposts now?
>I brought up Trump because I have a strong feeling you want to prove this obviously bogus idea about a conservative hollywood because you feel threatened by right-wingers and think lefties are justified or shouldn't be addressed.
This is astronomical projection. The point is conservatives exist ib Hollywood, make films, are also influencial and there is no decades old goody conspiracy to destroy them.

They're just not as popular, mate.
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>>87631659
I've only been alive for the last 20, and from what I've seen it sure as hell seems like the opposite. Why should I give a fuck for the last 50? In most of the past 100 I couldn't even legally vote.
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>>87630314
kek
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>>87631723
>conservatives have a better overall track record with succrssfuk campaigns, local seats, Supreme Court picks, general elections, district holding and lobbyist group money.
>"but there are a lot of liberals!"
I'm done here.
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>>87629638
True desu.

Conservative is anti-fun.
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>>87631756
>I'm 20 and go to 4chan to discuss my political opinions
Well...you walked into that one.
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>>87631551
>one of the most consistent and watched programs in the country, continues to be conservative.
Only one? Woah, like what an establishment.
>less people identify with conservative ideas over time
Apparently not! They've got one of the most consistently watched programs in the country! Wow!

>No faggot, I am merely acknowledging that this is a meme that exists, not a trend.
The trend I was referring to was the liberal trend, not the meme about it all being intentional or planned.
Now the comment about conspiracies should make more sense. The point is that, regardless if a conspiracy is present behind a trend or not - it's still worth paying attention to.
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>>87631706
No, you didn't source anything.
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>>87631752
>The point is conservatives exist ib Hollywood, make films, are also influencial
MY point is that a liberal bias exists and is by far the more weighted trend.
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There are tons of right wing stand up comics, but if you want to get into the entertainment industry you have to be left wing or very quiet about your beliefs, since it's an industry literally run by jews.
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>>87631831
>Only one?
"One of" does not mean "only one".
>Apparently not! They've got one of the most consistently watched programs in the country!
...right, with annually declining numbers.
>it's still worth paying attention to.
Only because you think it matters.
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>>87631878
>b-b-but there are MORE liberals!
So fucking what? Jesus, you people are briandead. That doesn't change how there are influential conservatives in Hollywood, do you kids want a fucking quota or something? Will that make you stop crying?

Your entire point rests on the word "liberal" being a pejorative. Otherwise, it's a dumb argument that suggests we need to take some sort of tally of how many liberals exist.
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>>87631207
>I've honestly thought about some standup jokes about muslims but I don't know if they would bomb

kek
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>>87630252
Libcuck pwned.
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>>87631752
>Just fucking stop posting, your nonsense points are desperate as shit.
It's such a simple idea - you want to show that a liberal bias doesn't exist in hollywood. So provide a list of actors which shows that it doesn't.
If the actors you name are
1) irrelevant - in the case of MJH, and John Lovitz
2) dying and past their prime - like caine and eastwood
3) actively hindered by the liberal bias you're pretending doesn't exist - in the case of gary oldman and mel gibson

Then your stance is moot
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>>87632013
>To provide a list of actors which shows that it doesn't.
I did, you just ignored it.
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>>87632013
>actively hindered by the liberal bias you're pretending doesn't exist - in the case of gary oldman and mel gibson
Holy shit, this meme still? Mel crashed his car and Gary punched his goddamn wife, how is there a conspiracy that they were blacklisted? You're a retard. Liberals weren't out to "get them" for no reason.
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>>87632138
mel was blacklisted though. I mean it was deserved, but he was still blacklisted.
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>>87632195
He wasn't attacked by some nebulous liberals because he was conservative though, he was blacklisted for being a drunk antisemite who crashed his fucking car. Abloo abloo, that's so unfair!
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>>87631989
>>b-b-but there are MORE liberals!
>So fucking what?

You're trying to prove there isn't a liberal trend in Hollywood.
Having significantly more liberals pulling significantly more weight, as a rule, means there IS a liberal trend. What's more, it's reinforced by a BIAS which you can see by the sort of actors and films they regularly elect as representative of the generations "best".

>>87631919
>"One of" does not mean "only one".
Go on then, show me the rest. Since hollywood's so blatantly conservative and not-at-all biased toward liberals.

>...right, with annually declining numbers.
Hence my sarcasm.
A bias in hollywood is worth paying attention to - particularly on a forum for discussing television and movies - because if there's a liberal bias in the establishment, the content getting put out is going to be affected as will our discussions on it.
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>>87632090
I didn't ignore it, I provided reasons as to why it was not representative and therefore not helpful to your argument that there isn't a liberal bias in hollywood.
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>>87631818
>I'm 20 and go to 4chan
If you're over 21 and you're here something is wrong with you. This isn't a place for functioning adults with full-time jobs, it's for students and underage fags.
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>>87632231
Where did I say it was unfair?
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>>87632245
Just because there are biases, doesn't mean there aren't influential conservatives. There is no vendetta to "get" conservative actors, directors or producers...that's the point you schizoid. They aren't some punished minority.
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>>87629551
Because, other than certain RAC Oi! bands, right wingers aren't funny, and there's nothing funny about the right wing. (Unless of course you're a left wing comedian who can find humor in the right wing.)
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>>87632330
>There is no vendetta to "get" conservative actors, directors or producers...that's the point you schizoid. They aren't some punished minority.

A bias in hollywood is worth paying attention to - particularly on a forum for discussing television and movies - because if there's a liberal bias in the establishment, the content getting put out is going to be affected as will our discussions on it.
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>>87632245
>What's more, it's reinforced by a BIAS which you can see by the sort of actors and films they regularly elect as representative of the generations "best".
Or maybe there are just better actors who happen to be some sort of left leaning?
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because they're on the internet and not on the kosher box
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>>87632375
>A bias in hollywood is worth paying attention to
Jesus fuck, is it? You people are the only ones autistically putting this shit under a microscopic lens, and we both know you only do this because your goofy head thinks "liberals = bad". Otherwise, who gives a flying fuck how many liberals or conservatives are making movies? I don't sperg out when Eastwood makes a film, I don't have to see it. Then again, I'm not mentally challenged.
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>>87629551
reddit doesn't allow it
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PJ O'Rourke
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>>87632013
>Michael Caine
>is irrelevant
Your gymnastics knows no bounds.
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>>87632275
And I'm telling you why your argument was stupid.
>Bruckheimer is irrelevant and not representative of Hollywood
Lol this is delusional
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>>87632308
>chemically balanced people aren't allowed to discuss movies
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>>87632491
He's not irrelevant. He's past his prime, on the way out. Those last, dangling conservative views still left in his brain do not represent the current trend.
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>>87632322
So then you have no real point there? Are you suggesting thst if conservatives ran Hollywood, they would just overlook drunk driving because was "one of them?"
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>>87629551
why is there no left-wing president?
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>>87632579
>He's not irrelevant. He's past his prime
By what measure, metric or authority outside of your fucking head? He is in at least 2 films a year, he's got films in post all through 2018. You're just a goofy autist. Your argument keeps changing because you can't admit how wrong you've been.

Fucking pathetic.
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>>87631550
go to bed dumbass.
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>>87632458
>You people are the only ones autistically putting this shit under a microscopic lens
There are 200+ posts in this thread and I'm inclined to believe a significant portion of those posts are perpetuating the idea that only left-wing comedians can be funny.
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>>87632650
How does a /pol/ bait thread about the lack of funny "right wing" comedians, somehow mean we are all as autistic as you about how many liberals are in Hollywood or not?
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>>87632637
Because you voted against your interests.
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>>87632637
who knew shitposts could be kino
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>>87629551
There are, they're just not allowed on TV.
The BBC have outright banned Roy Chubby Brown, Jerry Sadowitz, Jim Davidson and removed any old comedian stand ups from syndication like Bernard Manning and even just Les Dawson who did mother in law jokes.
A lot of these kinds of comedians aren't even right wing, it's just that the politically incorrect style of humour is too stigmatising these days and people are too quick to label
>>
The right's ability to laugh at itself took a pretty big hit when the "Moral Majority" types took over the party.

Yeah, you'll hear conservatives making redneck jokes and the like, but actually politics is a sacred cow and if you try to joke about the party platform the room goes quiet real quick.

Liberals, sanctimonious as they can be, can still take the piss out of their own once in a while.
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>>87632724
>I'll fail to mention why some of these people were banned from air.
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>>87632381
Why do you think that is?
What is it about the establishment that's attracting lefties?

Could the industry be inherently biased?
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>>87632739
>reddit spacing
>liberal opinion
into the trash it goes
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>>87632644
You're shitty post only elevates mine, which speaks truth. (don't know how to word that without making it sound weird)
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>>87629551
There are.
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>>87632672
Why is it autistic to say there's a liberal bias in hollywood and i'm sick of watching these commies telling me what's right and wrong on the big screen?
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>>87632762
>Why do you think that is?
Entertainment attracts more liberally-minded people, more often than not?
>What is it about the establishment that's attracting lefties?
I think entertainment is attractive to anyone multi-talented or more predisposed to open-minded work.
>Could the industry be inherently biased?
Yes, your ideological faults in careers where you don't thrive in are obviously the underhanded tactics of a secret elite and not just a progressing trend among two vastly different political ideologies.
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>>87632747
I thought I did by describing their humour as politically incorrect.
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>>87629721
Maybe back in the day when his job was to batch about fashion.
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>>87632827
>why is it autistic to get visibly mad at movies when they sometimes have political leanings I dislike?
Gee...
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>>87632864
Lol no, stop dodging and actually cite the individual cases on why they were explicitly banned. Because "they said bad jokes that offended people" is an obvious hand wave.
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>theres no bias in hollywoo-
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>>87632762
>Why isn't Associates degree, no teeth- Cletus a leading man in the next Avengers film!?
>THIS IS A BIAS!
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>>87632920
Well, looks like you just proved it!
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>>87632639
I've made one point and one point only about your list and i've broken it down several times the exact same way.

I gave you two reasons why a list might not be representative and one as to why it would fail to show a lack of left-wing bias.

Michael Cain is still in movies yes, but his prime era was in the 70's. Furthermore, as he grew older he started taking more liberal gigs, because that's what's available in hollywood these days. or perhaps because he was always liberal in the changing contexts of the passing decades.
His biggest appearances lately - the batman movies and the kingsman - are not conservative flicks. Whatever conservative ideals he maintains are watering down with the current trend and soon he's gonna die.

the part of him that's conservative is not represented in hollywood and the part of him that's liberal is the reason his career is still going.
because there's a liberal trend in hollywood.

I'll wait for you to decide that such a trend exists but it never mattered in the first place now because "only autists care".
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>>87632873
That's not autistic. I dislike the current state of hollywood; it's promoting ideals i don't care for.
What's more, you're clearly triggered that a lot of people on /tv/ are so vocal about their distaste for it. If getting mad about your disagreements is all it takes to be autistic, you're right up there.
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>>87632945
>right-wingers are all uncultured beasts

Your bias is showing
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>>87629638
Being left wing implies being politically correct and tame. Far right humor would be too vile and biting for the average pleb.
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>>87631373
why are right wingers always so self-hating?

the poorest, most unemployed, most welfare dependent states vote republican than bitch about how the homeless are parasites.
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>all the lefties are contained in one thread
>post quality skyrockets
thanks op lmao
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>>87633027
>I gave you two reasons why a list might not be representative and one as to why it would fail to show a lack of left-wing bias.
And I've explained in detail, why they were fucking dumb points.
>actors don't count unless they are in their "prime"
This is such a blatant dodge that it's painful that ai'm still taking you even remotely seriously. This doesn't MEAN anything, it's just another caveat to move the goalpost.
>Furthermore, as he grew older he started taking more liberal gigs
What on earth does this even mean?
>or perhaps because he was always liberal in the changing contexts of the passing decades.
Ah right, doubling down on the "secret liberal" point?
>His biggest appearances lately - the batman movies and the kingsman - are not conservative flicks
Who gives a shit? How do you even judge films? You know Chris Nolan is conservative, right? The point was never the films being conservative...

>Whatever conservative ideals he maintains are watering down with the current trend
You keep repeating this asspull.
>the part of him that's conservative is not represented in hollywood and the part of him that's liberal is the reason his career is still going.
Which is your own Michael Caine headcanon.
>'ll wait for you to decide that such a trend exists but it never mattered in the first place now because "only autists care".
It doesn't matter, since Michael Caine is still acting, dipshit.
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>>87633185
>why are right wingers always so self-hating

my dude. you can't take this stance with feminists and the internet at large on your side.
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>>87632848
Thank you for admitting the industry today is inherently left-wing biased.
It wasn't always the case.

>obviously the underhanded tactics of a secret elite
Was never my view. My view is that exposing biases in film matters on a forum for discussing film.
Whether it's a conscious, controlled trend or not is irrelevant. It exists and it can be changed. Particularly if hollywood's target demographic changes. Then you'll start seeing more and more conservatives in acting roles.

It won't happen any time soon, but I don't care. I can still be upset when yet another film pops up where an established white character is switched to a black guy, or when some smug protag says pseudointellectual shit about religion and republicans and guns.
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>>87633194
yeah you can now post your pedo shit more easily you /pol/ degenerate
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>>87631123
Life is just red and blue trying to control the world while they play tug of wat with green and purple
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>>87633101
>it's promoting ideals i don't care for
Such as?
>you're clearly triggered
I'm triggered because I told you it's autistic to get mad at flicks you don't like? Lol, whatever you say kid.
>you are mad because you called me autistic.
Or maybe just take some responsibility for your own behavior turbofaggot.
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>>87632808
>You're
Like I said go to bed dumbass.
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>>87633264
>It won't happen any time soon, but I don't care. I can still be upset when yet another film pops up where an established white character is switched to a black guy, or when some smug protag says pseudointellectual shit about religion and republicans and guns.
And finally, THERE it is! Wew, lad. Took some time to get to the point of "why" this stupid bullshit matters to you.
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>>87633225
>This doesn't MEAN anything, it's just another caveat to move the goalpost.

Let me put it this way. There are some prominent neo-nazis in South Carolina that were seen marching not long ago, in a city that's majority liberal.

Does that mean there isn't a liberal trend in that city?
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>>87633264
>I am admitting to being actually upset when there are fictional characters turned black
No wonder you've been so spun the fuck out in this thread, you're clearly retarded.
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>>87633323
You can look up a couple posts and see I've repeated it quite plainly. Then you or someone else claimed it was an autistic thing to be upset about.
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>>87633335
This literally makes no sense as a point, it's a false comparison. You are welcome to try again though.
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>>87633368
It is an autistic thing to be upset about.
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>>87633350
Indeed and now I can see why you refuse to acknowledge the blatant liberal trend in hollywood. It upsets you that things upset me.
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>>87629664
Idk I find it pretty funny when right wing people get mad at gay couples or immigrants for no reason.
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>>87633264
Would you ever just admit that maybe some conservative beliefs are just outdated? Is that hard?
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>>87633391
>you're upset that I'm upset
Have we reached multiple levels of delusion here?
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>>87632920
My same reaction to capeshit actors.
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>>87633388
What about smug protags propagating uninspired liberal platitudes and insulting conservative viewpoints?
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Because they're not funny.
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>>87630655
>everything's a conspiracy when it's convenient for me and my beliefs
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>>87629551

Networks, really.
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>>87633435
If your beliefs are this easy to challenge to the point of upsetting you, then perhaps you either don't really subscribe to them or you can't handle criticism?

Nobody forces you to watch films that make you cry.
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>>87633449
But colleges are in fact run by mostly left wing professors. The vast majority of college professors are leftists.
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>>87629664

That's kind of a perfect world theory
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>>87630984
>literal meme channels whose only form of humour comes from parroting /pol/ memes

jeez, conservacucks are getting desperate
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>>87629551
If there are no right-wing comedians, then where the fuck did this come from?
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>>87633476
>anyone even remotely left is part of an elaborate education conspiracy because that needs to exist in my head for the other boogeymen to work.
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>>87629721

I'd believe a chimp let loose on a stage and filmed is funnier than Colbert at this point.

Especially when the chimp sleeps.
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>>87633476
Why does /pol/ not know what "leftist" means?
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>>87633399
there's plenty of reason to be mad at both, mr. redditor
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I cant wait until the left and right start killing each other. It's gonna be /comfy/
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>>87633476
>overwhelming number of intellectuals, billionaires, entrepreneurs, inventors and philanthropists are liberal in some way.
>this must be the work of a conspiracy.
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>>87630152
/thread
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>>87631207
>but I don't know if they would bomb

This was the actual joke, right?
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>>87633507
The writer of that movie is a white man who married a white woman, but their son is black. Draw your own conclusions.
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>>87633534
Either (A) Their retarded or (B) They want to categorize everyone into 2 groups to have them kill each other off because they hate peace and humanity.

/pol/ probably doesn't know that the Nazis were "leftist," and if I told them, they'd lynch me.
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>>87633511
It's not necessarily a conspiracy. It just explains why there's so many people with degrees are left leaning. Because most of the people who educated them were very far left.
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>>87633585
>Nazis were leftist meme
How many times does this need to be debunked?
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>>87633265
everytime
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>>87633612
I consider socialism to be a leftist ideology.
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>>87633507
liberalism and libertarianism are both centrist
the south park dudes philosophies can basically be summed up as "caring about things is gay"
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>>87633640
Eugenics as well.
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>>87633589
Or, the more plausible reality: liberalism as a whole is attractive to the successful and intellectuals of the world? Perhaps, just maybe...it's just not a fucking conspiracy? At all?
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>>87633409
In this discussion someone is claiming that liberal bias doesn't exist in hollywood, when it plainly does. Why would he do such a thing?

Also in this discussion: someone is claiming that if a political bias exists in hollywood, one which runs contrary to your own beliefs, that you have no reason to be upset. The politics themselves aren't relevant. This is not a realistic standpoint to have.

Both of these people have been waaaay more vitriolic and quick to ad hominem insults than I have.

However I promise you that diversity casting is indeed pointless and retarded regardless of which era you happen to be living in. And I promise you that conservatism as a whole is not so easily dismissed. You think it is, because every movie you've ever watched has served to reaffirm your superiority.
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>>87633612
>the truth is just a meme, goy!
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>>87633660
>liberalism as a whole is attractive to the successful and intellectuals of the world?
Of course it is. Their worldview comes from liberals.
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>>87633640
Nazis weren't socialists. This gets explained each time. But go ahead, mention the full name of the National Socialist Party, that's the first retard point you people usually make...without looking up the party's platforms or considering how they murdered all the socialists in their party.
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>>87633575
And I care why exactly? Doesn't change the product!

Also I'm pretty sure she's black as well, and she had the kid year's before they got together. They actually have a daughter together.
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>>87633640
id link you one of the literal hundreds of articles, papers, etc explaining why that isnt true but those are all probably a leftist conspiracy too
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>>87633429
No dude, you've sat here for the last hour and argued with me because it upsets you that people come to /tv/ to talk shit about your favorite flicks for being liberal.
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>>87633681
You're just being willfully backwards to make your meme version of the world fit.
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>>87633647
Sure, but that film is pretty specific with it's targets.
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>>87633693
>>87633708
I don't much care either way. I don't support Nazism, and I don't support big government.
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>>87633700
>And I care why exactly? Doesn't change the product!

My point is that this isn't a right-wing man.

>Also I'm pretty sure she's black as well
No, she's white. She's also an ex-stripper. Par for the course with a black son.

>inb4 /pol/, racist, etc.

My white mother is a doctor and I'm her half-black son, I'm just saying that as a general rule women with half-black kids are trashy uneducted whores.
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>>87633664
>you dismiss conservatism because of an elaborate liberal plot to brainwash you through movies.
Kek, of course. Your ideology can't just be unpopular by its own merits, amirite?
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>>87633647
Liberalism and libertarianism are just about synonymous (liberal might as well be short for libertarian).

I consider myself a liberal and that automatically makes /pol/fucks assume I'm """left-wing""" or """statist""" which is just about the opposite of true.
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>>87633713
I keep explaining to you that I'm not upset.
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>>87633771
>Liberalism and libertarianism are just about synonymous
Except they aren't.
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>>87633458
Don't be coy, boy toy. If all the movies coming out had protags making fun of limp-dicked millenials and their abortion clinics you'd be here every day asking what the fuck is going on.

You cannot sit there and tell me that you don't get upset when your views are belittled. Or that when they're challenged - you just sit their quietly.

You literally can't because it isn't something you've experienced.
You agree with the vast majority of your friends and the vast majority of the content you consume aligns with your own views. You think because the masses are all in agreement that they're all right
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>>87633807
Look up the definitions. They are.
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>>87633811
So basically this entire ramble is just a "no you"? Riveting stuff.
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>>87633811
>I can't admit that I'm upset about films I dislike.
>so...no you! Ha! Gotcha!
Pathetic. Just own up to your own behaviors and act like a fucking adult. Stop using SJW talking points.
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>>87633807
the only difference being that american "liberals" believe in slightly more intervention in markets so promote social change
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>>87633664
>In this discussion someone is claiming that liberal bias doesn't exist in hollywood
Literally nobody is arguing that, the point was that they are NOT THE ONLY bias in Hollywood.
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>>87633857
Don't call those things "liberals," don't even put that in quotes. Call them what they are: regressives (or "progressives" as they're officially called).
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>>87633857
i know you /pol/ retards are gonna see "promote social change" and think "replace us with browns"
but it means shit like pushing renewable energy or health initiatives or infrastructure jobs
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>>87633811
>literally crying
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>>87633897
>clumping all progressives in with regressive fringers
I'm progressive, believe in personal freedoms, basic fiscal responsibility, love capitalism (when it isn't crony bullshit), support immigration and the free movements of people but also want us out of foreign wars and to stop funding terrorist groups.
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>>87633900
/pol/ too "promote social change," in their own way. Really they're all progressives (measuring Nazis, SJWs, and /pol/ all on the political compass brings them all up as progressives, who "promote social change").
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>>87633788
You wouldn't argue with me if some substance of my argument wasn't upsetting to you.
But that's okay, because getting mad about things does not imply that you're wrong.
It's actually quite normal to argue for your side when someone has misrepresented you or challenged you, or ruined Spiderman by swapping his gender or race and pretending it's all the same.
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>>87633741
>He married a promiscuous stripper, so he can't be right-wing.
Fucking what?

>She's white.
Halfie maybe, but definitely part black. Pic related.

>My epirical experience is greater than yours. Women who race mix are trashy whores.
My mom was half black. My grandmother was a John Birch Society member who liked black dudes. You calling my sainted grandmother a whore.

All of this, and still the product is right-wing comedy/satire.
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>>87633946
Are you me? Might as well call yourself a liberal then but whatever floats your boat, I'm not judging you.
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>>87633975
>or ruined Spiderman by swapping his gender or race and pretending it's all the same.
By all means, keep crying about this then. I sure am the angry one.
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>>87633741
My bad, forgot the pic.
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>>87633994
I'm absolutely liberal, but I avoid typing that word in front of progressive to save myself from 140 replies in the next hour.
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>>87633833
I'm using you as an example to illustrate the point that defending your views isn't an unreasonable sin.
Pretend I'm a movie. Why are you posting here?
Would it please you if movies like me went away?
What would you change about me as a movie?
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>>87634023
Good save. I remember that Rubin said that liberals usually call themselves conservatives because it makes them feel safer or something along those lines.
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>>87634038
Right, it's all still a whatabout.
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>>87633901
It's true, isn't it? You're pampered, and it the possibility of it bewilders you.
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>>87634038
>Would it please you if movies like me went away?
You can make any movie you fucking want, bud. I'm just going to avoid watching it if it's something I dislike.

I think Birth of a Nation is propaganda, KKK garbage, but I'm not going to stop you from watching it.
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>>87634077
>not even making any sense anymore.
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>>87633855
I can, actually. I've admitted it several times and tried to convince you that it's not unreasonable to be.

You've sat here for hours and argued with me that it's not fair for me to come to an anonymous image board and shit on your favorite movies for being liberal.
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>>87633409

It's current year!!
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>>87634167
Why does it trigger you that there could be some ideas, either conservative or liberal, are outdated? Your parties literally refuse to change over time.
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>>87634146
>You've sat here for hours and argued with me that it's not fair for me to come to an anonymous image board and shit on your favorite movies for being liberal.
Sort of funny if also not a bit sad, that you actually believe this is what people are saying to you.
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>>87633881
>literally
>literally
>literally
>>87629903
This was the discussion, several goalposts ago.
Someone actually admitted hollywood has a predominantly liberal bias, but then said it didn't matter.
When I explained how it did, they came back with "well conservative viewpoints are dumb anyway so..."
But now we're back it.
Hollywood is not simultaneously biased left and right. The fact that there are some conservative, right-wing actors and conservative, right-wing movies does't refute that fact, because the trend is left-liberal or left-progressive.
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>>87634289
>Hollywood is not simultaneously biased left and right.
Except it is you dumb faggot. Hollywood is a collection of competing media companies that align themselves with like-minded groups...either conservative or liberal. You've just bought into this literal decades old meme that liberals run everything.
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>>87634289
>this is how the discussion went in my head
You're,unbelievably autistic.
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>>87634289
>largest fundraising groups for films tend to either be conservative or the military.
>BUT SPIDERMAN HAS A BLACK IN IT! WTF LIBERALS!!?
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>>87629664
Actually, this post is scientifically supported. Personalities that tend to lean left are usually more creative and open to flying by the seat of their pants. Personalities that tend to lean to the right are usually more structured-oriented and work well managing and maintaining order. Guess which one is more likely to enter professional comedy? This doesn't mean conservative-minded people aren't funny, they're just less likely to be adept at it because the qualities that would've result in creative humor also decrease their likelihood of preferring the structure that defines right wing ideology.

Also, internet culture has created mobile complaint forces full of butthurt faggots that will cry and sob any time a public figure expresses a conservative value.
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>>87634542
Or also, maybe conservative values just suck?
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>>87634582
0/10
There's no sport in shooting fish in a barrel, and you sure as hell aren't baiting for anything else.
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>>87634634
No I am serious, what if conservative values are just shit or unpopular?
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>>87634226
>you actually believe this is what people are saying to you.

Indeed, first people said there isn't a liberal bias in hollywood.
When they conceded, and I implied there must have been some pretense for them to go on arguing something so obviously false for so long, they admitted they were threatened by the idea that I was claiming it was all due to a conspiracy.

When I said I wasn't claiming conspiracy personally, and that, regardless, the bias is still worth confronting, they came back with "the bias doesn't matter because your views are retarded and your defending them is autistic."

So then what are you here for, hours later? What's driving you to keep posting here that bias doesn't matter in hollywood?

Because you don't want to come to /tv/ and see those threads that "don't matter".
Because shitting on your favorite liberal films is "autistic".
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>>87634542
I wonder if all these talk shows hosts actually disagree on anything. They're all so friendly with each other despite forcing on political content.
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>>87634670
"It's shit" is not a statement that should be taken seriously.
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>>87634347
>Hollywood is a collection of competing media companies that align themselves with like-minded groups
And a certain collection of ideas sees way more representation in that sphere than others.
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>>87634773
>muh representation meme
So you want conservative quotas, you dumb faggot? Movies that people want to watch are usually popular. Maybe conservative films just aren't popular?
>inb4 it's actually a conspiracy that conservative films are unpopular.
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>>87634713
This is literally what being delusional looks like.
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>>87634713
>they admitted they were threatened by the idea
Literally nobody did this.
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>>87634817
>So you want
>and proceeds to say something that wasn't said
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>>87634842
>>87634862
>like literally
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>>87634368
It wasn't in my head, you can look right at the words, I quoted the post where a fella claimed that liberal bias only exists in hollywood so it wasn't worth discussing.
(on a forum for discussing television and film)

It went bananas from there
look at this guy now claiming hollywood is simultaneously biased left AND right.
>>87634347

To what end he's making such ridiculous claims, I'm not sure. People should come to /tv/ and discuss films and their flaws. One such flaw being their liberal arguments.

it goes like this
Film A has a scene where the protagonist says "fuck old fogies and their conservative viewpoints. they're crazy."

"I didn't like Film A because it's wrong about conservatives."

Loads more films like Film A start coming out.

"I don't like that so many films shit on conservatives"

AAAARGH YOU MAD<--- that's you saying there's no such thing as bias in hollywood and that arguing otherwise is retarded
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>>87634659
A liberal comic telling me why conservative comedians aren't funny...
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>>87634924
If you complain about this dumb representation meme, then I can only assume you have a suggestion that falls in line with something like firing excess liberals or having political diversity hires like the SJW bitch that you are.
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>>87634950
>he's still going
>paragraphs after paragraphs
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>>87634950
>look at this guy now claiming hollywood is simultaneously biased left AND right.
Because Hollywood isn't a hivemind or a sibgle company....
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>>87634392
Are you saying that films in hollywood are predominantly conservative, despite the prevalence of diversity casting - a progressive movement? That's kind of unrealistic.
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>>87635026
I'm saying conservatives are not poor, unrepresented minorities in the business when they occupy some of the most powerful film lobbyist groups ib the country. You realize that some of the most prolific studios are owned by conservatives, right? Do you think that Ted Turner was a liberal now?
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>>87634961
>I'm, just, going, to, assume, what, you, meant, and, what, you, meant, was, a, call, to, action.
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>>87634862
check it out
>>87631014
>>87632330
>we're arguing because you claim there's a conspiracy

Then I clarified that I didn't, and it kept going.
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>>87635136
That doesn't mean anyone is threatened by your shitty argument.
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>>87635120
Then tell me, what we do about conservative representation? Since this is literally the same argument you'd complain about from SJWs.
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>>87635236
>literally
You don't seem like you're that interested in listening judging by the second half of your post. So I won't waste my time.
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>>87635336
Just tell me you dense faggot. What do you WANT anyone to do about it?
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>>87635393
You see you're not listening. I don't "want" anyone to do anything about it.
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>>87633766
>unpopular ideologies are wrong because they're unpopular
>anyone who claims otherwise is a conspiracy theorist

The majority of films in hollywood are progressive/liberal/left. Do you dispute that? If not, then I'm totally justified in complaining about it, even if it upsets you.

Moreover, I'm not saying it's "on purpose" that a majority of the media you consume is liberal, just that it affects you. This is another justification for why I complain when I see it. I've disavowed the "conspirator" thing more than once now.

It's not the only reason - I also complain because when I watch a movie that turns out to be liberal, whether there's an onoing bias in the industry or not - i find the film very disagreeable and that displeases me. Is this unreasonable?

Perhaps you don't think it's so unreasonable, but would then shift this debate to a political discussion, separate from the state of film. That's a cheap shot.
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Jerry Lewis was pro trump anti refugee and anti gay before dying.
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>>87634065
How so? The analogy is relevant. I'm trying to get you to relate to me so you can admit that discussing the politics of a movie isn't a sin, and from there admit that the liberal bias of hollywood is an issue worth discussing.
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>>87634659
You can always make fun about the hypocrisy of the so called "left" that lives in mansions and spends their whole time buying crap in shoppings.
Although many right comedians make fun of the non-privileged, it's not as if that's the only thing you can mock being a conservative.
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>>87635443
Then why complain?
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