Since murdering kids is a box office hit

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Halloween is better

>>87611834
>When are we getting a full feature length origins story?
Hopefully never. Fuck outta here with your stupid ass suggestions, faggot

>>87611881
better at what?
More scary? maybe. But the concept of nightmare on elm street and the creativity of its sequels are unsurpassed 80s horror

>>87611881
1st one is. Nightmare is better as a series

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>>87611971
>Better at what

Being a better series that wasn't totally raped, or more it was but the remakes kinda (kinda) saved it.

>>87612033
The remake was abysmal like your opinions.

>>87612064
>Hating on based Rob

new low for /tv/

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>>87612033
>oh look. Its the really tall man who doesnt say anything who can teleport and doesnt die
>sort of like that other really tall man who doesnt say anything who can teleport and doesnt die

PRO TIP. JASON VORHEES>MICHEAL "MINECRAFT"MEYERS

Freddy is king. Get the fuck out

>>87612033
the nightmare series as a whole is leagues better than the halloween series. The franchise goes to absolute shit after the fourth one when they start implementing all that cult rubbish

>>87612100
>based Rob
in what universe

>>87612570
Its very good. Its sad nobody cares about nancy tho

Halloween is down there with Candyman. Deal with it Halloqueens.

>>87612771
Halloween atleast got some newer movies that werent total garbage fucking unwatchable shit like Friday the 13th or Freddy got. And no its literally impossible to think Halloween 2007 and 2009 is worse than the recent Kruger and Jason movies

>>87612843
Everything after the Freddy VS Jason era is bullshit anyway.

>>87612843
Here let me write a halloween sequel for you

>mike meyers is back and killing people
>at the end he is killed
>but his body disappears

>>87612908
>implying its not the same for Nightmare on the Elm street and Friday the 13th

>>87612958
>i've never seen an Elm Street movie before

>>87613022
I watched two and gave up after it, hot gabage.

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>>87612033
Even at its lowest point, the Elm Street series had more creativity, personality and better writing than any of the Halloween movies. I'm willing to bet you only liked the first Halloween because of Carpenter and the third one because it's baby's first cult horror experience anyway.

>he actually liked the remakes
Well, that explains it.

>>87613045
Just like your opinions.

>>87613045
thats shocking because number 2 proves the series isnt stale and was one of the most original horror movie monster sequels ever.

>>87613051
Actually

1=2>Remakes>>>>>>>>>>>The rest.

I guess H20 is decent too.

>>87613162
you didnt like number 3?

So what do you guys think about there being more Nightmare movies without Robert Englund?
>inb4 kneejerk reeeing
What I mean is, Freddy is a pretty cool and unique character. Should he die just because Englund is too old for the role (which might not even be true as long as they don't make Freddy super physical)
Michael and Jason are able to carry on because they're always played by different dudes. Would a new Freddy actor really be so bad?

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>>87613162
>giving the remakes ANY credibility or respect
The first one is L I T E R A L L Y the original with more blood and Zombie doing his trademark LMAO WHITE TRASH GOTH HILLBILLIES thing. The second is 90% more of that amped up to a pretentious degree. How could anyone who claims to like the original series, especially Carpenter's original vision, ever give those credit?

>>87613311
lol

when i was little I watched the third expecting a sequel too

>>87613287
The remake was shit because they turned freddy into a child molester. where as in the main series he was a serial killer.

I ended up taking my exGF at the time to go see it , and it turns out she was diddled as a kid and had a breakdown during the movie

BOY WAS I MAD

ALSO robert englund is still alive isnt he? why cant he play freddy? he wont need as much makeup because of his age

>>87611834
The entire Elm Street franchise is horror kino. I'm sad that Englund will never play Freddy again.

People that like Rob Zombie's remake are among the stupidest i've ever encountered.

>>87613504
That's an unfortunate expierience anon I'm sorry. It would be cool to see Englund come back for maybe one more.
But in the long term I mean what if Freddy was like James Bond or someone and they cast a different actor? I mean I wouldn't really want them to continually recast it but I just feel Nightmare is such a cool concept but after Englund dies/retires they won't be able to make anymore because fans will flip out. I mean I agree myself that there'll only ever be one Freddy, but I'd be open to the possibility of the series carrying on.

I'm just rambling really, all I want is another (good) Nightmare film really.

>>87613504
>The remake was shit because they turned freddy into a child molester. where as in the main series he was a serial killer.
He was always implied to be a child molester, you dumb faggot. I don't like the remake either but don't act like them being more upfront with that part of the character was the only reason why it was so bad. Wes Craven and Robert Englund have both said on many occasions that the original intention was to make Freddy a molester but it had to be changed because they didn't want to offend anyone while this nationwide pedo case was going on while they were filming the first movie.

>>87613558
why? did i miss something?

>>87613694
No he was never implied to be a molester. He was in the first movie all the way to the last (number 5 flashbacks) a creepy butcher of kids. Not in any of the movies was he described as a molester. Just a murderer who killed over 20 kids , which when put into perspective , would be a terrifying movie in itself.

Especially with all these new stranger things/IT child actors

Which is why in the OP I think an origins story would be worth it

>>87613716
Not that anon but Robert's said in interviews that he has one last Freddy film in him. Thing is, the studios would rather reboot the whole series and keep it going for several years which he feels he's too old for

>>87614088
That being said, he does have a great idea for an elm street reboot

>If I was in control of my own Nightmare on Elm Street movie, I have an idea I would have liked to see. I thought it would be great if the children of previous victims, or just kids who grew up hearing stories about Freddy Krueger, were each haunted by their own version of Freddy Krueger. Kids who grew up hearing stories about this Freddy Krueger guy and the awful things he did envisioned him in their own way, and that is the version that begins to haunt them. Some people may picture him as stout, another might envision him as tall & thin, another with a different hat, or a different sweater. He could have different gloves, or even a glove with small razor blades as referred to in the first movie. It would be neat to see very different interpretations of Freddy Krueger based on the child's vision of who or what Freddy was to them. After all, each person's subconscious would picture him in a totally different way.

>>87614088
They should do an origins film. Make it about the parents losing their kids

That shit would be kino

>>87611881
They're another sequel produced by Carpenter coming out next October. It's supposed to ignore everything after 2.

>>87614195
that is pretty good and he would be able to retire. Still want to see a hardcore origins story. with or without supernatural elements (dream demons)

>>87614267
>They're another sequel produced by Carpenter
Hardly means anything. Carpenter is the literal embodiment of I DON'T CARE AS LONG AS THEY PAY ME. Bet he's as much a producer of that as Stan Lee is on the MCU.

>>87611881
Hellraiser > Nightmare on Elm Street > Halloween

>>87614388
first one was good

>>87614561
I didn't say it wasn't.

Originals

TCM>NoES>Halloween>F13

Sequels

NoES>F13>Halloween>TCM

>>87614654
oh and

Remakes

TCM>F13>Halloween>NoES

The remake ALMOST had a nice thing going on when it implied that Freddie was actually not a molester and the parents went The Hunt all up his ass and got him killed. But "lol nope!", he even had his porn photos stashed away.

>>87614654
>>87614692
I'm ok with this.

>>87614027
>No he was never implied to be a molester.
>ignoring how Nancy's mother calls him a filthy child killer
>ignoring how predatory and sexual he acts toward his female victims like Nancy, all of whom are minors
>ignoring the fucking opening in Freddy vs Jason where he licks a picture of a little girl
>ignoring how Wes Craven and Robert Englund have said, on many occasions, that he's a molester
I'm sorry you don't want to imagine a beloved, funny character like Freddy raping children, but it is what it is.

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>murdering kids is box office
>scary clowns are in vogue

might as well go to the logical conclusion

>>87611834
>his nun mother was gang-raped for the whole night by a ward of mentally ill killers
hot

>>87614860
Ya I really didnt like it. Because it fundementally changed who freddy was. If that had been the case from the start it would be one thing. But he was always portrayed as sort of a "butcher" in the 5th film who liked knives and cutting things

after some googling it seems they ARE making a new nightmare movie. and after the success of IT , it might be a big deal

>>87614981
>child killer =/= child rapist
>hot teenagers who are having sex in the movies all the time =/= child
>freddy VS jason isnt cannon
>buh muh wes craven

Wes craven and englund should have wrote it in the script of the 5 fucking movies they did that he diddled kids

(they never did and always had the chance to)

The reality is child rape isnt something you can turn into a horror movie without massive risk. Which is why freddy was never written as a child rapist. And why in the 5th movie it was basically laid out he was killing the kids of his classmates for bullying him

>>87615397
>child killer =/= child rapist
But calling him "filthy" leads to more unpleasant implications than him simply killing kids.

>hot teenagers who are having sex in the movies all the time =/= child
If they're under 18, they're minors.

>freddy VS jason isnt cannon
Prove it.

>buh muh wes craven
You're right, why should any of us give a fuck about what the creator of the character has to say?

>And why in the 5th movie it was basically laid out he was killing the kids of his classmates for bullying him
Where is this implied at all in The Dream Child or Freddy's Dead?

It doesn't have to be explicitly stated like in the remake that Freddy is a pedo. As Englund has said, it's subtext. Subtext is scarier. And there's only so many ways you can interpret a line like
>"His name is Freddy Krueger and he loves children, especially little girls."

I don't know why so many people want get defensive when this is brought up. Freddy's always been a disgusting, predatory monster that preys on children; why do people act like it's so out of character to even consider he may have molested a few of his victims when he was alive?

>>87615837
>bu bu bu
Killing children is filthy. Study basic emotional linguistics you fucking retard

>under 18
lol try harder cupcake. If I was an undead dream demon haunting sexually mature highschoolers like pic related i would fuck with them sexually too. Doesnt prove anything. It was never written into the movies.

>Why should any of us give a fuck
because the character is what was put to film. The canon. Not what the director wanted but couldnt deliver because he was a pussy.

>where was this implied
Uh maybe i have the film mixed up but in freddies dead there are multiple flashbacks to his childhood and adulthood. He killed the kids of the parents who harassed him for "being the son of a million maniacs" in school.

No subtext isnt scarier. If I showed my GF the entire movie series she would have been fine. I took her to the remake and she had a full emotional meltdown because they turned the character into a child molester

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>>87616156
forgot pic

>>87615026
Kevin James should play John Wayne Gacy in a biopic

Why don't they make a prequel for Elm Street? Call it The Nightmare from Elm Street and it's all about Freddy's mortal days when he was a janitor and murdered kills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff0Y3U2mkyE

The intro to Freddy vs Jason makes this idea worth exploring. In the hands of the right director like David Fincher for instance, you could make a really solid serial killer thriller.

Freddy Krueger the man was WAY more terrifying than the dream demon because a fucker like that can exist in real life. The dude had a wife and kid while committing these heinous crimes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffStLyZ0FEw

>>87616254
how many biopics of him have there been

>>87616760
fuck finally somebody is backing me up on this

>>87616817
Everybody is all about remakes, but why not a prequel that establishes the Springwood Slasher? It's a way better idea than doing a Freddy reboot or another sequel.

>>87616874
its financially safer too. If the guy they cast is successful they can follow with haunting of kids in future films. If not its a good prequel that serves the canon

>>87611834
Why did he kill children in the past but invariably teenagers in the present?

>>87612112
Michael was never supernatural though. As long as you don't count anything past the first film. Which is all that should really count. Halloween is serial killer kino up there with Se7en.

>>87616254
or the Larsen dad from The Killing

>>87617310
The teens were the little kids he didn't get to murder. Or they were the younger siblings of his victims. And most likely, they were the children of the parents who burned him.

>>87614388
Hellraiser was shite and had the worst bloody series out of the lot of them.

Halloween fucking sucked, get over your denial already, faggots

>>87616156
>muh imaginary girlfriend
How does "she" feel knowing her boyfriend posts on a Tibetan pottery forum filled with pedophiles?

>>87614388
>Hellraiser
>good
yeah, if you ignore Bloodlines, Hellseeker, Inferno, Hell World, Deader, Revelations, and 3

>>87613504
See, that's the one thing I liked about the remake. Child sexual abuse just seems more disturbing and sinister in the context of today's society.

>>87617471
>this is what losing on the internet looks like

She doesnt care because i dumped her for being damaged goods. Thanks for taking the low road tho. I crushed you

>>87616156
I like how you're completely ignoring every piece of proof and logic I'm giving you. By all means, go on plugging up your ears and thinking Freddy's some quipster badass if that allows you to like him guilt-free, but that's not what Robert or Wes intended.

>>87617562
>muh modern culture
yeah i bet you wouldnt mind a tranny Freddy, too

faggot

>>87615397
>they never did and always had the chance to
In the early versions of the script, he was explicitly a child molester. New Line told Wes to take it out because California was having a lot of high profile molestation charges and they thought it would look like poor taste.

Freddy was always supposed to be a child molester and the only reason he wasn't was due to studio interference and real-life complications.

>>87617582
I like how you are ignoring that in almost 6 fucking films never once was fred kruger referred to as a child molester

I like how you admitted in the first phase of the argument the director pussied out and wrote it out of the script.

I know this is hard to comprehend. But maybe when the first batman comic was being written , he was PART BAT but the writer decided to leave that out and just have him be traumatized by bats.

Guess what? that doesnt make batman part bat

>>87613693
Jackie Earle Haeley was an alright choice actually. It wasn't his fault the script was shit. It's just hard to make someone as iconic as Freddie intimidating any more because of how his pop cultural standing went. From spooky claw dream bloke to funny guy killer.

>>87617681
>in early versions he was a molester
got any proof for that fat load of bullshit?

>>87617681
>early versions

lol doesnt matter. 5 fucking films. Not one even infers he is a child molester.

5th film literally gives out his motive. He was a revenge killer

>>87615397
>Wes craven and englund should have wrote it in the script of the 5 fucking movies they did
Wes did the first and New Nightmare. Get fucking educated before spouting off about shit.

>>87617441
The first hellraiser was great you must be a moron

>>87613504
He was already implied to be a child molester in the older movies
Don't know why people were so butthurt about that

>>87617847
doesnt excuse the other 8 shitty sequels after part 2

>>87617847
It was dull as fuck come on. Gore and shit acting don't make a good horror film. No Hellraiser was anything above B tier, and even then only the first two were actually on the B level the rest are fucking awful. (Quite liked Inferno for what it tried to do though)

>>87614195
that sounds like a fucking awesome idea. id have him in his pre-death form, without scars, for the big reveal near the end, with the different things familiar to us about freddy scattered throughout the dreams of the children. either that or have just one kid who sees him as an ordinary guy, doesn't buy into all the urban legend about his burnt face or creepy claw glove or whatever, and defeats him this way by taking his power of fear away. I don't know, im just rambling.

We don't need an origin story for Freddy. It's already explained in 1, 4, 5, and Freddy's Dead.

Hell, just 1 is enough.

Stop asking for more stupid Horror movies that shouldn't be made.

>>87617895
>implied

It's outright stated; there's no implication.

>>87614195
That seems like an interesting idea, but it sounds a lot like Dream Warriors, in terms of shaping himself to each kid.

I would prefer your idea to another origin story, however. I'm tired of remakes/reboots.

>>87612843
New Nightmare

>>87617767
>got any proof for that fat load of bullshit?
It's incredibly common knowledge. Wes Craven and Robert England talk about it all the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eJg2qBRtg8

>>87617782
>5 fucking films.
Wes Craven created the character and originally wrote him to be a child molester. Only one of those other five films was even co-written by him. Go ahead and get autistic about canon if you want, but it doesn't change what the character was created to be.

>>87618054
>outright stated

nowhere in any of the films is this stated or even implied

>>87615837
The one good point this guy has is
>>buh muh wes craven
I don't care about the creator's head-canon. Just like Dumbledore isn't gay just because J.K. Rowling said so, if it isn't in the film and has no bearing on the character, it isn't canon. That said, I do think there is enough in the movies to imply that Freddy is a child molester, but not just because Wes Craven said so.

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>>87611834
What modern actor has the charisma to play Freddy?

>>87618188
>character is created
>is never depicted as said creation
>"stop being autistic its not stan lees fault nobody understands peter parker is actually a secret alien toilet seat and that it was never written into any of the comics"

>>87618266
jared leto

>>87617630
one of the quintessential horror movies features a transvestite killer and it's creepy as fuck.

>>87618320
I know this is a joke but he's not a bad choice

>>87618274
Or how about:

>character is created to be a child molester
>studio tells Craven to leave that out of the movie because they want to avoid controversy
>he does, but never says that Freddy isn't a child molester
>Freddy becomes a pop culture icon and New Line writes a new backstory to make him more likable

I guess you're also the person who attributes Michael Myers' killing spree in the first movie to the Cult of Thorn, right?

>>87613504
>had my first gf in high school
>shy cute girl
>a few weeks into dating she told me she was molested and raped as a kid

being a 16 year old, thats the LAST thing you want to hear, fuckin chads dating hot girls who have normal parents and rich relatives

>>87618266
Idris Elba

>>87618475
Let me break down what you just said

>writer wants something
>studio that is financing entire project says fuck off
>writer accepts it
>not only does writer accept it for the first project , but the next 5-6 projects too

Sorry head-canon is not canon

Fred krueger is a serial child murderer in the films.

>>87618392
it was a joke

>>87618192
I already gave examples upthread. If you want the most damning one, watch the beginning of Freddy VS Jason where he licks the picture. Watch the scene where one of his victims' ghosts, a young girl, flat out says that he especially loves little girls.

Just because it doesn't wave it around in your face obnoxiously like the remake did doesn't mean the implications aren't right there.

>>87614027
Actually he was ALWAYS supposed to be a child molester.

Freddy was supposed to be a pedophile but New Line Cinema forced Wes Craven to remove all reference to Freddy being a pedophile because, they were afraid of being accused of trying to cash in on the "pedophile pre-school" moral panic going on at the time in the 80s (where a bunch of pre-school/daycare centers were targeted by the religious right and accused of being pedophile/child rape rings run by Satanist)

The remake resurrected the pedophile angle though they teased the notion that Freddy was innocent of being a child molester, before having him confirm he did rape the kids he later killed.

>>87619012
>>87619039
nah

>>87617782
>Freddy killing normie scum is sooooo cool!
>oh but Freddy raping kids isn't, I can't like him anymore :(
Literally all this autistic argument boils down to. The guy behaves like a fucking sexual predator in just about every movie he shows up in. Are you going to say he suddenly ended up that way once he died and was never, ever like that while he was alive?

>>87619170
ITS TOO BAD IN FREDDIES DEAD THAT IT WAS EXPLAINED HE WAS A CHILD MURDERER WITH A MOTIVE

>>87619247
Him having a motive doesn't mean he can't mix it with his own six pleasures, you dumb fuck. Most serial killers who target children also turn out to be sexually abusive because it's a power thing. And again, it doesn't erase his behavior from the other movies.

>>87619482
ITS
TOO
BAD
IT
WAS
NEVER
PUT
TO
FILM
THEREFOR
NOT
CANON

>>87619247
You're aware that every slasher villain has a retconned backstory, right?

>>87619570
>retcon
for there to be a retcon there has to be a filmed segment in previous movies where its said "freddy raped kids"

there is none of that in the movies.

>>87619538
>I NEED TO HAVE EVERYTHING SPELLED OUT FOR ME BECAUSE I'M TOO DENSE TO PICK UP SUBTLETIES AND IF IT'S NOT EXPLICITLY STATED IT'S NOT TRUTH!!!
um sweetie, you do know it's okay to like characters who do horrible things, right? Liking a pedo serial killer doesn't reflect poorly on you. It just makes you look autistic.

Welcome to prime time bitch

>>87619726
>i need to have things spelled out for me

But they literally were spelled out for me in freddies dead. It was actually explained in that movie he was killing the kids of the people that bullied him as a child

Im sorry the actual CANON hurts your fucking feelings. Im sorry that wes craven , in the timescale of making over a DECADE of films never explicitly said it despite WANTING to.

But canon is canon. Freddy is a murderer of kids not a child molestor.

jesus m8 slashflicks are 90s as fuck are you for real.

>>87619803
M8, the only one getting bent out of shape over this is you.

>>87612033
seriously? everything after 4 was fucking garbage except for the one with busta rhymes which was hilarioius.

>>87611834
I think it's canon that he fucked the kids too.

>>87611834
I think it would work well as a Netflix series.

>>87619803
literally a child rapist

>>87620884
I love Bond and I think all the actors were great in their own way. By /tv/ standards I'd say Dalton is the most popular on here. He also played against my favourite villain, Robert Davi in Licence to Kill.

>>87611881
John Carpenter's Halloween > Wes Craven's A Nightmare on Elm Street

HOWEVER

A Nightmare on Elm Street franchise > Halloween franchise
>>87612033
>Being a better series that wasn't totally raped
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Reminder Halloween: Resurrection exists.
>or more it was but the remakes kinda (kinda) saved it.
Oh lordy, you have some incredibly awful opinions. Rob Zombie's Halloween films were fucking terrible.
>>87613162
1 >>> 2 > 3 > H20 > 4 >>> 5 > 6 >>> dogshit > Halloween (2007) > Halloween II (2009) = Halloween: Resurrection

>>87611834
>possible innocence which could explain his motive after he died
Only in the reboot, he was 100% guilty of his crimes in the original series.

>>87617366
>Michael was never supernatural though
Didn't he survive being shoot in the chest, stabbed in the eye, fall down from a building and then walked on like nothing happened?

>>87619830
Hey, weirder revivals have happened.

>>87611834
he wasnt innocent bit that's an interesting concept...
keep the nightmare twist as much of a secret as Bruce Willis in Split and watch everyone freak out.

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>mfw people haven't mentioned the best slasher flick monster

>>87623134
Leprechaun in Space is the best awful movie ever made.

>>87621145
>Only in the reboot,
I actually wish the reboot has committed to his innocence instead of doing that bullshit "he really did it, isn't that a surprise?" bullshit. Everyone going into a Nightmare movie knows Freddie Kruger was guilty; making him innocent would have actually done something new.

>>87611881
1,2,7 are good

4,5 are meh

6,8 suck

>>87618392
especially seeing as he diddles underage girls, eh? perfect fit.

>>87611834
>Possible innocence which could explain his motive after he died.
That makes no fucking sense. "I was accused of murdering children. The justice system worked, and I was freed, but a vigilante mob killed me.
"I must get revenge as a ghost, but how? I know, I'll murder some kids that had nothing to do with it! That'll show that stupid mob!"

>>87611834
WHY HASN'T THERE BEEN A TRUCKER HORROR KINO?

Like, never.

>>87627162

Michael Shannon is... THE LONG HAUL KILLER

Kino

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>make a box office release about white christian children being murder by muslims and people think its heroic
>makes 5 billion worldwide and wins every movie award

it's gonna happen

>>87614027
>kids
he seemed to go after 25 year old """teenages""" most of the time. did he ever attack little kids in their dreams?? Freddy was a red blooded american male. He wanted teen pussy but also finds teens annoying and killed them.
literally a hero

>>87611834

Because it's a stupid fucking idea. Name one time where explaining a horror villains backstory worked.

>Leatherface
No.
>Michael Myers
Hell no.
>The Tall Man
Not really.
>Pinhead
No.
>Candyman
No.

All of these characters were humanized and thus, less scary. It would be the same for Freddy. All we need to know is that Freddy was a child molester, Michael is pure evil and that Leatherface is a retarded hick.

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>>87611834
I hope the Nightmare on Elm Street reboot leaves Freddy's origin out and makes him an unexplained creature much like IT. I

Like how other anons have said, the series needs a new direction to go in rather than another remake of the original. Have a new cast of characters, a new actor for Freddy and a new story.

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Who would your pick be to play Freddy Krueger after Robert Englund?

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was FvJ the logical conclusion to the slasher genre?

>>87611881
Every Halloween movie is shit after the first. Every single one.

>>87629316
Season of the Witch is good

>>87611881
NIGHTMARE 1/3/4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ANY OF THE HALLOWEEN MOVIES EXCEPT 3 WHICH IS GREAT!!!FACT!!!

>>87612112
FREDDY>JASON>MICHAEL!!!FACT!!!

>>87613045
>>87613151
NIGHTMARE 2 IS FAG FAN-FICTION!!! 1, 3 AND 4 ARE THE BEST!!!FACT!!!

Could someone explain to me the appeal of Michael Myers? I never understood why some people like him more than Freddy or Jason

>>87614388
HELLRAISER 1 & 2 ARE GOOD BUT EVERYTHING ELSE WAS/IS SHIT!!!

NIGHTMARE 1/3/4
FRIDAY THE 13TH 1/4/6
PHANTASM 1&2
HELLRAISER 1&2
HALLOWEEN 3/4/1

FACT!!!

>>87611881
I watched the first one not long ago (never saw it growing up) and I found it so laughably bad.

This movie I can tell gave birth to every single horror movie cliche.

>>87630200
BLACK CHRISTMAS IS SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY AND SO IS FRIDAY THE 13TH!!!FACT!!!

>>87621210

And the only authority who took him seriously after his first murder agreed he was the boogeyman.

>>87630084

It's because Halloween is better than any Freddy or Jason movie.

>>87630084

Carpenter probably summed it up better saying Myers's point was about not having a character which was forever ruined after the first movie, while Jason was from the beginning a newer Leatherface that does fucked up, entertaining stuff for something at least resembling a reason.

I don't like the "childhood/adulthood makes sense" meme, but Myers is like creeping death that will probably follow you for a long time for no reason while Jason is like the loud car crash that will suddenly kill you for maybe not looking both sides of the street well enough.