Picture is the essence of this topic.
Such a shame to see a once competent artist go full meme
>>87597998
the old dependable snap center/zoom
all lars von trier films
>>87597955
What's "meme" about that shot?
Soldiers going down dissapearing in the dark, it's pure visual storytelling, not just an empty pretty frame.
>>87597955
>one frame of a shot = entire shot must be judged on it
>>87597955
fuck up idiot
>>87598342
>>87598364
>>87598588
look, Im sorry it upsets you but Deakins needs some criticism to get him back off this crap he is doing. Photography in a film like this is silly as its too distracting. We know its not even a natural shot since it had colour grading
>>87598657
Please explain what's wrong with that shot, especially in the context of it's narrative.
>Photography in a film like this is silly as its too distracting
Are you an actual retard? Photography IS cinematography, cinematographers are directors of photography (DP's).
Also hating on color grading is absolutely retarded. Color grading is a tool like any other filmmaking element that adds to the narrative if used correctly.
Do you think every film should look as real and natural as possible? If you took out the green out of The Matrix it would look like a TV show in broad daylight, not a film about false reality in a computer program.
>>87598753
>Are you an actual retard? Photography IS cinematography, cinematographers are directors of photography (DP's).
zero point made, are you stupid
>>87598027
Did Battlestar Galactica use that first?
>>87599157
>think this is some behind the scenes shot
>then credits appear
lol
>>87599157
is this an edit? it looks like they didn't colour grade it or anything
>>87598588
>>87598753
Deakins sucks I'm with that guy he's a fucking meme.
>>87599157
>holds the lightsaber in front of herself for 30 seconds
>>87600529
KEK
WAS SUPER RETARDED, SAW IT OPENING NIGHT IN IMAX 3D
WALKED RIGHT OUT THAT INSTANT
>>87599157
I actually like this.
>>87598075
kek
itt: idiots who flunked out of community college
>>87598657
>We know its not even a natural shot since it had colour grading
Every movie has color grading.
The fuck you're talking about, idiot.
>>87599157
This is a technically good shot but in the context of the film is meaningless.
It doesn't tell the audience anything, it doesn't really evoke any kind of emotion, it's straight out of the michael bay school of cinema.
>>87600940
Except Michael Bay can do better. I simple still shot would've been suffice. Hell, a zoom out shot would've looked cool and actually feel like a Star Wars film.
>>87598060
Why do they do this
This looks like a cameraman wasn't paying attention
>>87600940
13 Hours was kino. Bay is great with the right material
>>87601223
the greatest shot in cinema history?
all the critics seem to think so.
>>87597955
What's wrong with it?
>>87599157
What's wrong about the cinematography there?
>>87598341
Pretty much every film from "Dancer in the Dark" (2000) to the present look great though.
>The go pro footage from the Hobbit
It's the quintessential example of the student film school blunder 'we filmed it and spent a lot of time and money on it so we feel like we have to use it', which for a director of Jackson's resources and experience is absolutely pathetic.
>>87600940
>Michael Bay
>not great
>>>/r/eddit
>>87601223
stop trolling that looks incredible
>>87598060
Am I supposed to think "Woah, that's a real camera?"
>>87601601
fuck those movies and fuck that scene in particular
>>87601550
It's completely out of place, calls to much attention to itself so it's jarring and is quite ridiculous if you take the fact that they are just staring each other for a good 15 seconds with Rey holding out a lightsaber and no one moving or saying anything.
It's like they were afraid to end the film with an intimate moment (even just the Luke turnaround and stare would be enough) and had to make it seem grand.
>>87601559
but dancer in the dark looks intentionally bad, what are you walking about?
>>87599157
does anyone else really fucking hate this location? its so ugly
>>87601601
>>87597955
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>>87601601
I wonder if we'll ever see Jackson do a 100% practical low budget genre film again. Those earlier movies of his are an amazing display of raw talent, I wonder how he would go about something like that nowadays.
>>87601823
Those criticisms have absolutely nothing to do with cinematography though. That's just the writer 's or director's fault (maybe even the editor).
>>87597955
hilarious
epic
>>87603221
The camerawork is just awful. The helicopter should never have been used for it.
>>87603675
triggered
>>87603221
How? The writer wrote the scene, but nothing in the script says "insert a helicopter zoom in 360 tracking shot".
It's entirely the fault of the DP and the director.
bitchy little faggots. make your own movie if you can do better and not sit at a computer complaining about people who actually make movies.
>>87601641
Yes. The same reason there's shaky cam or raindrops on the camera sometimes. It's not telling you "Hey this is a real camera" but it's suppose to tell your subconscious "hey look it's real, you're right in there" and it makes you more immersed
>>87603757
>"insert a helicopter zoom in 360 tracking shot"
Have you read the script? Because it might as well say exactly that. It's then up to the director to decide whether he uses it or not, but it could very well be written into the script.
>>87603695
The use of the helicopter for that kind of shot was hardly the cinematographer's call. That's the director's.
>>87603950
Writing doesn't work like that anon.
Here's the script, see for yourself http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-The-Force-Awakens.html
>>87602714
This is edited... Right?
>>87605584
Imagine how jarring it looked in the theater
more editing than cinematography but anyway
did people at some point just completely forget how to edit fight scenes?
>yeah cut away just before the blow lands that'll look really natural and it'll flow just great
>>87599157
I remember watching this in the fucking cinema
I'd been excited and over the course of the movie my enjoyment/hype had dropped immensely and I was just ready to leave the film at that point.
Then THAT fucking shot starts and I'm like "oh wow, dramatic revolving shot."
Then it keeps fucking going and I was just so confused as to why they would hold that shot for so long. I was waiting for it to end. Even afterwards my friends agreed that that final shot dragged on twice as long as it needed to be.
What a shit way to end a shit film. Really fits desu.
>>87605636
I hate where we are in film
>>87600907
The joke is on you. I don't go to film school, I went to films.
>>87605670
kek
based jackie chan does fight scenes right, nearly no cuts at all
>>87603813
you now realise Deakins lurks /tv/