What's the fastest you ever dropped a movie?

>>87564599
Slaves have never existed in history.

Prove me wrong.

>>87564599
but monkeys can't build anything, they can only pick crops at gunpoint

>>87564654
Society and Jews.

>>87564599
Jared's going to be the "Bad Guy"
and there's more Bladerunner films after this one

>>87564599
>....aaaaannnnddd dropped
proved that you're a fucking brainlet who thinks only blacks are slaves

go back to pol faggot

>>87564599
jared leto = dropped
he doesn't have to say a fucking word

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The worst movie I have ever seen was robot World


And I finished....

>>87564599
Does that mean our current Western civilization is not great? Shit, we need some of those Middle Easterners in our countries to make more slaves.

>87564599
>Egypt
>America
>China

Not every great civ but there's a few good ones that were built with slaves

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>Blade Runner sequel releases
>a billion dollars worldwide
>unanimous critical and public praise
>OP impotently floods /tv/ with screencaps of alt-right fake news tweets and pics of toy shelves to prove it's a flop

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>>87564599
Guardians of the Memexy, left after the first quip.

>>87564847

Don't pretend blacks aren't what Jared means, you shitfaggot.

>>87564654
I can't. No one has any factual proof that any race ever owned slaves. Sure if they mean "slaves" like oh god I'm such a slave at walmart.

>>87565134
All you've proven is you're suffering from more white guilt than anyone in this fucking thread. What's worse is you're in deep denial about it like one of those deep in-the-closet "homophobic" conservatives that gets caught blowing a guy in a bus station.

>>87564599
Liberals seem to not want to consider serfs as slaves so he is wrong if he's using the liberal cuckold definition of slavery.

>>87565134
And black slavery was the foundation of the American economy, making it competitive on the international market.

You understand that Leto's character makes slaves, right? He's literally pro-slavery.

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>>87566156
>America was built on cotton

>>87566156
>black slavery the foundation of the American economy

This is what liberals actually believe.
This is why you guys have enough white guilt to suck off any black guy you see.

Kys

>>87566263
I'm a liberal because I believe a rigid caste system is necessary for an economy to grow. Okay.

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>>87566156
t. a nigger trying to pretend like he was useful at any point of American history

So we should bring back slavery? Sounds good to me!

>>87566321
I interpreted your post as saying that slavery was the worst thing to ever happen to those poor black people who literally built the American economy at the time (not true). My apologies anon.

>>87566156
>American economy
not really, majority of the usa wasn't dependent on slavery and mostly just used by the southern states to keep up with the north and only like 25% of southern plantation owners used slavery in the first place

>>87566263
He's actually right though. Compare the english/american colonies to the french colonies. The french were never as big into slavery and so despite having a huge territory footprint wise, they didn't have enough people to work that land.
When we started adding states to the country we started having debates on if they should be free states, or slave states. Not so much because anyone gave a fuck about abolition, as it was because an independent farmer who couldn't afford a bunch of slaves can't compete with a big plantation that has an army of slave labor. Making those states free states meant that you had better employment opportunities because the market wasn't undercut by forced labor.
Slaver in america, conveniently enough, went out of style when it stopped being economically advantageous.

>>87566362
why did all those guys shoot each other to keep black people as slaves then

>>87566363
Probably not, it's very economically inefficient. It's a good way to get your civilisation set up, but is a major drag on productivity once your economy really gets going. The Romans for example knew about the principle of steam power, but never made the conceptual leap necessary to but it into practice as a power source because they had more than enough slaves to do all the menial manpower intensive work. When your labour pool is virtually bottomless and free then there's little incentive to innovate, especially with regards to energy and labour saving devices.

>>87566746
>only like 25% of southern plantation owners used slavery in the first place
Right, but what was the output of that 25%. While the north was the economic and industrial heart of the nation, what we traded over seas were things like textiles.
One of the fears the union had in the civil war was that the english were going to back the confederates for access to their cotton.

>>87566925
this

>>87566864
because they'd been losing power over a long time and were struggling to keep up with the north, and the slavery issue wasn't even brought up until the third year of the civil war with the emancipation proclamation that was meant as a direct threat towards the southern states

>>87566237
>cotton was the only crop

Tobacco buried cotton as an export. Indigo too, probably.

>>87567153
cotton was also threatened by hemp

Knocked Deadpool off after about 5 minutes, could tell I would hate it.

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>>87567226
Dude. Did you know weed is only illegal because of the Dupont family?
If I'm not mistaken most hemp production went in to rope and canvass, while cotton was used for clothing.
Can you imagine trying on a cotton shirt after a lifetime of only knowing wool? Probably felt like fucking witchcraft.

>>87566746
>only like 25% of southern plantation owners used slavery in the first place

That's like saying money doesn't matter because only 1% of the population owns 90% of it.

>>87567452
but money literally don't matter

>>87564599
>Character makes statement
>It must be true

>>87566821
He isn't though. Slavery was useful, but not a necessity. America lost only 5% of its GDP which it quickly regained in the following year after abolishing slavery so slavery didn't, in fact, impact the economy all that much. Slavery was used because it was a faster way to develop a land and also because the people that owned the slaves didn't want to work on said land. And there were not enough people to employ as not every European wanted to migrate to the Americas back then.

So in short it was a faster way to develop a land, but it was not really necessary. Slavery didn't build America, it was the European colonizers who did. Slaves were doing what they did best - labour.

>>87564599
Poor stupid pol fucks. Wasting a Sunday throwing shit at movies instead of necking themselves.

>>87565974
whoa that's deep man, thanks for posting

WE'RE ALL SLAVES TO THE FREE MARKET COMRADE

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>>87567605
Why should we neck ourselves when we can neck people like you instead?

>>87564599
It's stupid logic, slaves don't build shit unless you think the cow pulling the plow built the farm. I get it's a way to make descendants of slaves feel important but slaves were only as useful as the owner directing them. Personally I think slavery should make a come back because I would probably be better off as a slave. Think about it, we could have a /tv/ movie night on the plantation after working the fields all day.

>>87567452
Money doesn't matter though you capitalist piggu

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>doubting /ourguy/

>>87567819
This is the most retarded attempt at an analogy ever.

>>87567879
How? The cow didn't build the farm, he just does what the farmer said much like a slave. At least explain how it's wrong brainlette

i didn't even like the old blade runner because they deviated way too far from the original source material. it looks like this movie will be the same

>>87567869
>/ourguy/
This is /tv/ not imdb or /r/movies you entry level drone

>>87567911
Shut up bigot. The cows were more important to building Western civilization than white people are.

>>87567924
I didn't like the original either, I thought it was dull as hell and overrated. Never read the book though.

>>87566821
>Slaver in america, conveniently enough, went out of style when it stopped being economically advantageous.

Slavery was only "economically advantageous" to a small portion of the population; even then, it would've been cheaper for them to hire cheap labor since they wouldn't have the extra costs of housing/maintaining slaves.

Slaves were not this magical powerhouse that people wish they were.

>>87567951
Kek whatever you say cow

>>87567990
People tend to think slave owners just let their slaves wallow in filth and die left and right. Nobody seems to understand that slaves were expensive and cost a fuck ton of money to feed and take care of. Illegal Mexican laborers are cheaper than slaves.

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>>87567946
>his movies are generally well-received by normal people so they must be plebshit
>ignoring his mastery of tension, aesthetic narrative and his exploration of motivation and cause instead of just effect

>>87567615
It's literal truth. Anyone so eternally ass-ravaged as to construe every mention of slavery THROUGHOUT FUCKING HISTORY to be specifically referring to niggers is the epitome of a self-conscious cracker hiding his guilt behind his "righteous" indignation.

Egypt was built on slavery. Babylon was built on slavery. The Persian Empire was built on slavery. So we're the Greeks, the Romans, and the Mongols. The Holy Roman Empire relied on feudalism and serfdom, which was pretty much just slavery by a different name. Then there's all the empires further east to consider. All of those civilizations endured for hundreds if not thousands of years. America and its history of slavery hasn't even lasted three centuries yet, so even assuming he was talking about us in the first place is so tragically devoid of an awareness of history that it's a little sickening.

>>87567911
The character being quoted literally produces slaves for a living. He's not advocating for the important contributions of slaves, he's advocating for the existence of slavery. In your analogy, he himself would be a cow rancher. Most cow ranchers probably believe that the existence of livestock (and agriculture and general) was important to the development of the human race.

Here is my awesome impression of you:

>Did someone suggest that the existence of black people might have brought some tangible benefit to some aspect of the world? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I'm not even going to take the two seconds necessary to understand the context!

>>87564599
Why do you faggots from /pol/ get triggered to easily?

>>87567438
actually, there is no connection between the illegalization of marijuana and DuPont, the reason why marijuana became illegal was because it was a prohibition aimed directly at minorities, just like with the previous prohibitions like opium because they were popular among chinese immigrants and was mainly to cause an annoyance rather than to protect
the same thing happened with cocaine, only the prohibition was made because it credited as being "the direct incentive to the crime of rape by the negroes"
it was also the same with the alcohol prohibition in that it was largely thought that alcohol abuse was something normal among italians, russian jews, polacks, irish, germans, pretty much every minority that was seen as "unassimilable people"
prohibitionalism have always been the political strength of the fundamentalist christians
and these people pressured factory owners, like DuPont, to require that workers were abstinent, and when they've managed to prohibit alcohol, prohibiting cannabis was very easy as it was still unknown at the time and the prohibition was only motivated because it was popular among mexican immigrants and blacks

tl,dr: the illegalization of marijuana was caused by puritans and not Dupont himself as an act to make things hard on mexican immigrants and niggers

>>87568333
tv is pretty much redit now that redit is pretty much tumblr

>>87568208
Nothing you said changes what I said, all you did was move the goal posts. Slaves didn't build anything, cows don't build farms.

>>87568193
Cool, slaves didn't build shit though, they just did what they were instructed to do.

>>87568532
Autism. Got it. Hiro should tag you guys. After you're done replying to this post, got look up "build" in the dictionary.

>>87568333
See >>87568193

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>>87568532
>cows don't build farms
Checkmate athiests

>>87568569
You're not much good with metaphor, are you?

>>87564888
he looks like a 21 year old hipster. they expect us to take him seriously as a villain? it's so fucking cringey. i hate whoever was responsible for casting him. it was probably a board of directors

>>87564599
that sounds like an argument in favour of slavery, honestly

>>87569767
With modern industry you don't really need slaves anymore since we've eliminated so much labor with automation and scientific engineering of the workplace. The stuff you can't automate you just pay someone pennies on the dollar to do for you.
Slaves are very useful for a very specific time and place in a civilizations development, but they tend to become huge pains in the ass later.

>>87564599
>tsunambee
>y'mo wuchi be errry tig o fyah
it was about 5 mins in

>>87567819
>we could have a /tv/ movie night on the plantation after working the fields all day.
count me in, anon

>>87568685
Not an argument.

It's obvious you're a cow

>>87569664
Leto is like black people, he doesn't age. It's weird.

>>87570009
almost as if the point they're making is that technology is functioning as our slave.. woah.. the word robot means slave

>>87564599
>What's the fastest you've been triggered by a movie?

>>87570405
Robot come from the Latin word Róë which means Shiny and Bóté which means nigger. Shinnyniggers are the future

>>87570485
From Czech robot, from robota (“drudgery, servitude”).

>>87570518
>czechs also built a golem
hitler was right to annex you

>>87570518
That's just what (((they))) want you to think until shiny niggers are everywhere and it's too late

>>87564599

we are all slaves

>>87564599
i dropped that one even faster - the moment i saw a spic in the trailer. not even joking famalam.

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>>87564599
>2017
>remaking a classic

Expecting and hoping it will be good in this generation

>kek

>>87564937
America wasn't build by slaves faggot

>>87565170
Sandniggers literally invented slavery

>>87566156
>Confederate Economy more like

>>87570669
this
I think america only had slaves for its first century, and the very next century is where we see America turn into a superpower.

>>87568193
vikings too had slaves.

>>87570742
>No source
Kys fag

>>87570937
>Vikings
>a great civilisation
lol

>>87567600

To the the American Civil War, our nation's bloodiest war with over 500,000 casualities was fought over the abolition of a slave economy that only cost America
>5%
of it's GDP.

You've got to be full retard to believe that bullshit.

>inb4 state's rights

Read the Cornerstone Speech. It lays out that slavery was the central issue for the Confederacy's secession.

>>87571241
Vikings pushed feminism before it was popular.

When Captain American said "there's only one God", I literally screamed out loud at the theater that there is no god and threw my popcorn as some little kids sitting in front of me then walked out.

>>87564599
>every great civilization was built on the backs of slaves
but that is objectively true you dumb drone

>>87571471
I pulled out my ak and forced everyone in the theater to convert to Islam

>>87564599
>Jared Leto mentions that every great civilization was built on the backs of slaves

100% true. Not the "modern slacery of Africans". Were talking prehistoric slavery, Medditerranean slavery, migration period slavery, Middle Eastern slavery, medieval fiefdoms, Indian castes, Japanese Samurai vs farmer, European colonization...

Its 100% true. Just because you cant come to terms with blacks being bitchy about having been slaves, doesnt mean its not true.

In any case I gotchu senpai.

>>>/pol/

>>87571579
No it's not

>>87571776
Next thing youll try to convince us that Rome wasnt built by slaves.

pretty sure he meant the nietzschean idea of slave

>>87571776
yeah? name some great civilisations that used no cheap workforce

>>87571801
Slave labor was used to construct it but slaves didn't build Rome into the Empire it was. Slaves made absolutely no decisions on their own, they only took orders. Just because someone works at pizza hut doesn't mean they created the franchise.

>>87568337
In the 18th century, a French army officer wrote that due to the use of hashish “the mass of [Egypt’s] male population is in a perpetual state of stupor!”

>>87571904
That's not my claim. My claim is slaves aren't responsible for building those nations. They were just tools. Without their masters they would just be retards standing around in a field.

America was built by slaves that's why everything is made of cotton

>>87570850
That's yet another reason why trying to use America as an example of a civilization "built on slavery" doesn't work. Technology had already come too far to not make slavery an increasingly outmoded source of labor.

>>87572006
how can you miss the fucking point so much? of course, still, Rome would not have been built without slave workforce, every empire used cheap expendable workforce, thats what the quote is about, nobody said that slaves designed things they were used to build you idiot

>>87572070
>They were just tools.
thats quite literally what the quote in OP says you moron

>>87572006
So you agree then. Rome was LITERALLY built by slaves.

>>87572184
And people would have starved without animals, by your logic every society on earth was built on the back of animals even more so than slaves because even slaves have to eat.

>>87572292
Nope. Not at all.

>>87572296
well, yeah, you could say that. and? the quote is just a more poetick of saying "as a society we need cheap workforce", just like what you just wrote is a more poetic way of saying "as a society we need food sources". I don't really get what is triggering you here, both are objectively true

>>87572529
Honestly I assumed you guys were triggered. My only point is slaves didn't build these nations, the men who directed them did. Slaves are the equivalent of a hammer and a hammer is only effective if the person wielding it knows what they are doing. Slave labor contributed to constructing nations but slaves should get credit for the empires that enslaved them.

>>87564599
>replicants are used as slaves on offworld colonies
>films have commentary using slaves

WOOOOW SO SURPRISING
grow up

>>87572653
Should not get credit*

>>87572332
English isn't your first language, is it? Please tell me it's not. Your inability to comprehend the nuance of the word "build" comes off as what I really pray is an attempt at trolling.

Does an architect build skyscrapers or does he just design them? Does a construction foreman lift girders into place or does he just oversee the project? Do either of these guys stand on the naked steel and slap rivets into i-beams? No. Today, it's an hourly employee. Hundreds of years ago, that person would have been a serf, a thrall, or a slave.

>>87572653
the empire would not exist if not for both masters and slaves. it just a general rule of nature, stating that is not giving credit to anyone, it's just describing a process. it's not even out of place, big theme in original Blade Runner was slave-master dynamic

>>87566156

No it wasn't.

Egypt was built on slavery.

Rome was weakened by slavery.

The British Empire stole my potatoes.

>>87564599
You know, there were white slaves too.

>>87572717
Nope. You can back track to semantics all you like. These nations were not built on the backs of slaves, they were built on the backs of the men who molded the slaves into a work force.

>>87568193

Romans were WEAKENED by slavery, which is why they had to keep going through periods of outlawing or limiting it's use.

Mongol empire was built on genocide and serfdom. They didn't get with slavery.

>>87566156
19th century America wasn't great.

He was referring to Egypt, Rome etc. All the undisputed hyperpowers of their age.

>>87572866
Fair enough, I'm wrong guys. Thanks for educating me you boys.

>>87572717

And equally irrelevant to the project, since you can hire a million other coolies to do the job.

Now You See Me at the part where Woody Harrelson is doing his mind control gimmick on some married couple to extort money out of them. It was so bad that I wonder how the people on set felt while filming it.

>>87573042

People also seem to be ignoring that Leto doesn't say slaves.

He says a "disposable workforce."

Which is true of just about every single advanced civilization and is true today.

>>87564599
Reminder that slaves were only responsible for 1.5% of our GDP at its peak: https://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/01/11/was-america-built-by-slaves/

Negroes have sucked up much more than 1.5% of our GDP for decades. Slavery is literally the best thing that every happened to them.

>>87572995
Romans had laws limiting use of slavery because of two things. first was a fear of rebellion, slaves outnumbered citzens five to one just before Pax Romana if I'm correct, their number had to be limited out of fear.
and as the time passed social perception of slaves shifted and they were seen more like people than tools. eventually there were even laws in place that allowed slaves to accuse their masters in courts of mistreating them and courts could free such mistreated slave or reprimend his master.

>start movie
>netflix logo comes up
>close movie

>>87572956
It's not semantics, dickhead. It's what the word means in the context that it's being used. Without slave labor, all those grand empires would have remained pictures on papyrus.

>>87574637
Slavery limits innovation. Compare the north vs south in America.

>>87573081
Yeah, except you don't "hire" a slave. Especially when you're the emperor/pharaoh/khan that enslaved them to begin with.

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>>87566156
>And black slavery was the foundation of the American economy

>>87574700
Thanks for making my point for me. This is yet another reason that the American slave trade is a poor fit for what's being discussed. Technological innovation was already rendering slavery an obsolete practice. Track back a few hundred years and the same does not hold true. You're correct. Without slavery, there's a damn fine chance that it would have forced earlier empires to think around more corners, but the fact remains - slavery was ubiquitous, slaves an abundant resource, and it was to brute labor that they looked to implement their projects, not technology, and it's the means by which they were built.

>>87574873
Tobacco and whiskey was

>>87564599
>They mention a wall in the trailer
This new BR movie is going to have political propaganda leaking out of its ass.