No seriously why did he bend the knee?

so he could get laid

It's the least he could do next to fucking his aunt by killing one of her dragons.

>>87442134

So he can cum in his aunt.

>>87442134
So he could bend Dany

To lick her cunt easier

so Dany would bend both

>>87442134
to create more pointless drama

So he can bend the family tree

>>87442134
to eat da pusy

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>Jon Cuck
>being in a scene women will never understand

What a fucking cuck POS. I hope the North stabs him in the back and rallies with Sansa against this manlet,if I was a northman i'd beat the shit out of the traitorous bastard myself.cuck slave for women has broken every vow or oath he made,first he betrayed the NW for whore ygrittes ginger minge,then he betrayed Mance because muh NW, then betrayed the NW because muh wildlings, then betrayed stannis because muh NW, and is now betraying the North just to get a whiff of Targ pussy. Fucking son of a whore who eloped with an emo harpplaying faggot like the dumb roastie she is, then didnt have the sense to use contraception.I hope Night King ends Jon and Dany and her Cuckshed Coalition
Jon is a beta cuck. As King in the North, he has a duty to his people, to preserve their honor and dignity even if it means their death. He should go to her and offer an alliance, and tell her "fuck you, my people made me king, I come here as King and leave as king, take it or leave it " Jon will be known as the "King who Knelt" like Torrhen Stark and the North will spit on his memory regardless of what happens next. Hes humiliating himself and conceding to Dany.The most beta he has ever done is kneel for her even when she had already pledged to help him. He literally got what he was using as an excuse to bend and bent the knee anyways like the dumb cuck he is because he knew she would let him fuck her humpty dumpty flabby body and bloated face and DOTHRAKI'd used-up cunt if he did. I would unironically neck myself if I was him

>>87442134
Targaryens have an almost supernatural need to fuck one another.

>>87442134
puss

>>87442134
Because women are the future.

>>87442349
Based Jon working you into a shoot

>weaker army
>wants to fuck Dany

>>87442349
wew lad

>>87442349
dont forget, he used a wishy-washy excuse to leave the NW, but still sentenced his killers to death.

Which means one of two things

1. He was not the Lord Commander because death relieved him of his watch, and extra-judicially murdered the conspirators (including a child) when he had no right to
2.He hadnt been relieved from his watch by death, so he was still Lord Commander, meaning he deserted his position and post in the NW and is an outlaw who should be rightfully executed by the laws of the land

I have posted this question like 4 times and a Jonfag has never dared try to answer or refute it

>>87442569
What if Lord Commander of the Night Watch has the authority to relieve someone of their vows.

>>87442720
They can't.

>>87442720
except he doesnt

She sacrificed a dragon (essentially 1 of her children) for his cause and then stated her support. THEN he swore allegience

>>87442134

dany's pussy game is too strong

YAAAASSS QUEEN

>>87442739
>>87442763
Then he just needs Cersei to pardon him

>>87442134
Pussy, nigga.

>>87442809
Pretty sure NW oath is beyond conventional rules/politics.

>>87442134
The Northerners are emotional cucks. Jon is a righteous, emotional cuck
>bend the knee to Aegon during his conquest (out of necessity)
>Bend the knee Robb
>Bend the knee to Jon Snow
>Bend the knee to Sansa
>Bend the knee to Dany

>>87442887
Only a King (or Queen I guess since show doesnt even have Kings anymore) can pardon a NW. It was a major plot point when King Stannis wanted to release Jon from his vows

>>87442932
Ah right forgot about that.

>>87442134
women empowerment propaganda

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>>87442134
>No seriously why did he bend the knee?
to get closer to that pussy, boiiiii

So he could get closer to her pu-!
>>87442979
>>87442284
>>87442339


Fuck, beat me to it.

Tell me one reason why the north won't rebel once they know Jon is a targaryen and is related to the mad king that once burnt down two starks in the dragon pit

All this AFTER jon tried to convince them so suspiciously that "guyz we need to leave the past and look at the future :^)" and then he fucking left to visit another targaryen and probably had a baby with her

I mean, if i were a northerner, i would see a power hungry guy trying to lock up the north as targaryen territory by an alliance with another targaryen, potentially fucking up the starks forever

>>87443351
Did you forget the scene where they all shouted king in the north? They love him.
>but bastar...
KING IN THE NORTH!

So he could get at the Dragon Ass

>>87442134
So he could put his...king in the north, if you know what I mean.

>>87443351
Because he's going to save them from the walking dead
Also he's half stark

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>All the Northern lords are tired of serving foreign King's and Queens that abuse them and their lands

>Gives it to Jon because they feel he'll make due on their concerns

>Immediately surrenders the fucking North to a foreign Queen bringing foreign hords who rape and pillage to their lands

I hope this bites Jon Snow in the backside because honestly he didn't need to fucking bend the knee at all. Dany already said she was going to help he didn't need to be such a stupid ass cuck.

What happened to all the men?

>>87443618

>muh saviour of the zombees
>muh i have nothing to explain just zombees

nice cop out

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>knows nothing
>never learns

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>>87443351
>Tell me one reason why the north won't rebel once they know Jon is a targaryen and is related to the mad king that once burnt down two starks in the dragon pit
How about two?

>>87443647
the point is moot since Jon is the king anyways.

He bended the knee out of respect for she saving his life

also because he wanted pussy

>>87443930
Exactly. If anything the gesture (and the sex) will help his case to make The North a separate state after Zombies and Cerci have been delt with.

Of course despite D&D feminist agenda I believe they left a lot of room for Jon to take the Throne or for both to rule as Equals.

>jon kills night king saves the world
>gets stabbed by north lords right after
this is going to piss people off lol

>>87442134
More importantly, why did they kill him AFTER he let wildlings through the wall?

>>87442134
WHO CARES HE'S GONNA GET REKT BY EURON LMAOOO

>>87442134
Hey All

Just watched the entire 7 seasons this past month and a half, finished last night.

So im clear..
Bran thought John was the bastard between the 3rd stark sister who died young (that the original king barathean and everyone else was in love with) and the mad king?

Then Sam with scrolls realized it there was an actual marriage in secret between the 2 (meaning he isn't a bastard)

So he is half stark half targarian and Daenarys half brother?

>>87444304
Yes

>>87442134
Why the fuck didn't his uncle simply hop on the horse too and stayed to fight? There was literally not a single reason why he would throw his life away like that.

>>87444304
>and the mad king?
No, his son. The mad king is the one killed by Jaime, whereas his son Rhaegar was killed by Robert.

>>87442134

to suck the cock

>>87442134
He wants tha good poosy.

>>87444304

He's Danenary's nephew, her older brother is Rhaegar who married Lyanna and made Jon.

>>87444327
>>87444348
So Danarys and her brother form earlier season, had a much older brother?

and danarys older brother is Johns dad?

>>87443159
Why bother posting then, who cares?

>>87443647
It won't come to bite him in the ass. It's just a repeat of the The King who Knelt. And Daenerys is a repeat of Aerys I. It even has the Westerlings (Lannisters) as the final enemy who gets defeated by the Targeryens. Everyone will magically understand Dany is the best ruler and she will unite the kingdoms all over again. It's like poetry, it rhymes.

>>87442134
hes a manlet beta orbiter its what they do

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This wouldn't have happened if Roose Bolton were still Warden of the north. He'd have the bitch flayed already.

>>87443647
She has fucking dragons, it's completely different.

>>87444444
Holy fucking checked.

>>87442279
Holy shit

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>>87444444
wasteful

>>87444444
W A S T E D

>>87444445
>So Danarys and her brother form earlier season, had a much older brother?
Yes. Prince Rhaegar Targaryen. Their father was the Mad King, Aerys Targaryen. Rhaegar and his children were killed during the rebellion, but Dany and Viserys escaped.

>>87442279
bravo

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>>87444444

>>87444444
Lyanna wasn't the ugly older sister who little finger just killed, it was the 3rd sister right?

and so im clear... this is accurate..
>>87444445

>>87444445
Yes, exactly. Daenerys is Jon's aunt, and Viserys (and Drogo and Hizdahr zo Loraq too now that I think about it) would have been his uncle/s.

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>>87444489
Not for much longer.

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>>87444444
god damN SON

>>87442134
you cant eat puss standing you virginfag

>>87444553
>Lyanna wasn't the ugly older sister who little finger just killed, it was the 3rd sister right?
No, not even close. That's Lysa Arryn, and she was never a Stark. Lyanna was Ned's sister.

>>87442354
its like they're from Alabama

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>>87444444

>>87442354
>almost supernatural
They need to keep the bloodline pure to control their dragons. People without Valyrian blood can't do it. Incest is about survival for them.

>>87444620
Ah no shit.
Thought the red hair and the diff last name made her a stark sister.

Thanks all, that helped

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>>87443351
>Tell me one reason why the north won't rebel once they know Jon is a targaryen and is related to the mad king that once burnt down two starks in the dragon pit

Rebel under? Sansa? Arya? Bran?

>I mean, if i were a northerner, i would see a power hungry guy trying to lock up the north as targaryen territory by an alliance with another targaryen, potentially fucking up the starks forever

And if I was a Northerner, I would be more worried about the ice demons with a 100,000 undead men, undead giants, and a fucking undead dragon.

But hey, we each have our own priorities.

>>87444449
>And Daenerys is a repeat of Aerys I.

i think you mean Aegon I

>>87444445
Correct. His name was Rhaegar and he was the one who married Lyanna in secret. Like someone pointed out earlier he was killed in battle by Robert during the rebellion

>>87444553
>Lyanna wasn't the ugly older sister who little finger just killed, it was the 3rd sister right?

You know a few seconds on google would clear these questions up, right? I would never come to 4chan for serious answers about anything.

>>87444445
>So Danarys and her brother form earlier season, had a much older brother?
>and danarys older brother is Johns dad?

Showfags should be sterilized

>>87444342
This. People kept saying D&D are hacks, but for me everything was forgivable until they had this happen. If you're going to make someone sacrifice himself come up with a better reason than "I have no time to get back on the horse that I just unnecessarily dismounted."

>>87442569
Or what if it was just the Night's Watch executing mutineers for killing their lord commander and they let Jon swing the sword

>>87444889
This, it's not like "the man who passes the sentence swings the sword" is actually a law. Tywin was never going to personally chop off Tyrion's head.

>>87444856
It's apparently cannon in the novels too.

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>>87444489
>>87443647

>>87444955
>Daenerys
>Danarys
>Jon
>John
>Danarys and her brother from the earlier season had a much older brother
>and that's Johns dad
>not remembering who Viserys and Rhaegar are

whether or not its cannon in the books isnt what makes you a showfag

>>87442134
he wants da poosy brosephino

>>87444699
She's Catelyn's sister. The red hair is a Tully thing.

>>87442134
pusy

>>87445139
You just contradicted the post that answered me.

Is she Catlyns sister or Neds sister.

What kind of offspring would Daenerys and Bran produce?

>>87444444
Nice

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>>87444444
>SHEEEEIT!

>>87444620
Ned hold the Stark name, if Lysa is his sister her name would have been stark before marriage

>>87445183
Lyssa is Catelyns's sister

Lyanna is Neds' sister

>>87445183
>>87445340
>>87445333
Oh shit I see.

Ugly Lyssa was Catelyns sister
beautiful Lyanna was Neds sister

>>87445139
Wait Catelyn is a tully? as related to Samuel tully?

None of the Game of Thrones actors are going to be successful after the show concludes lbr. Same thing happened with Lost and all these other big ensemble shows.

>>87445059
the original comment wasn't mine.

Also
>being upset about spelling mistakes on an anonymous image board on the internet where 3/4 of the posts are shitposting.

>being this pooper peeved about showfags on a board for television & film.

Good back to >>>/lit/ if it bothers you that much.

>>87445600
sophie might be successful if she sticks with the x-men thing, plus she's not an ~iconic character in the same way jon and dany are so less chance of being typecast but probably not most of the others.

>>87445484
Not him but at this point, I'm not entirely convinced you're not a (You) hunter.

>>87445484
You mean Samwell Tarly?

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>>87445600
But Emilia is already succesful

>>87445648
She doesn't really stand out in X-Men and it doesn't help that X-Men: Apocalypse was critically panned. Despite Terminator failing spectacularly, Emilia Clarke might be okay since she has the Han Solo movie?? But all the behind-the-scenes stuff I've read makes it seem like that movie is going to be a colossal mess.

>>87445648
I just don't see Sophie becoming a presence after GoT is over but I could be wrong.

I do think Emilia has the best shot out of anyone in the cast to have a major movie career. She's probably the number 1 face of the franchise but like someone said, she looks different enough out of makeup that people aren't going to associate her with Dany. Not to mention she has the most followers on social media. I imagine she'll be swamped with even more offers after the show is over.

>>87445651
>>87445656
Not fuckin around lads, I just wactched the series quickly through without talking to anyone about it,
common knowledge doesn't apply to me.

>>87445600
out of the newbies only emilia might be because shes not as recognizable out of character and shes charismatic despite being untalented. kit is painfully uncharismatic and he'll always be jon snow in every role hes ever in. nobody gaf about the rest

>>87445737
>I do think Emilia has the best shot out of anyone in the cast to have a major movie career
Emilia? I think pretty much every project she's been in has been butchered by the critics and/or bombed at the box office. I still think Kit and Richard, of the men atleast, are going to remain succesfull.

Actors like Lena, Carice, Peter, Nikolaj etc are all fine. They're older and have a body of work before GoT started

>>87445755
>wactched the series quickly
you know watching at higher than 1.0x speeds *is* just a meme right anon?

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>>87445789
>he'll always be jon snow in every role hes ever in

delet dis

>>87444859
HE LITERALLY SAID "THERE'S NO TIME"

>>87445600
>Same thing happened with Lost
Plenty of people from Lost have been successful tho. A lot went on to do other shows that lasted years. Evangeline got to be in the hobbit, antman and now she will co-lead the sequel.

>>87445909
Most of them faded into obscurity, though. I guess by successful I mean A-list status. Or even B-list to some extent. I know some of them got consistent TV acting gigs, but you would think with the huge popularity of Lost at the time, more of them would be household names. Michelle Rodriguez is probably the most well-known out of all of them.

It's only recently that Evangeline Lilly got cast in Marvel and she's not even in the Top 20 most memorable Marvel characters/actor list.

>>87445909
>so successful she went on to genre trash!
wow.

>>87445600
i think lena will she'll probably move on to do a moderately successful television show.

>>87443351

Rebel against what? He won't be ruling the North, he will be king of the Seven Kingdoms. Clearly Bran needs to become Lord of Winterfell and marry Lyanna Mormont. Doesn't matter if he's a cripple, she can still ride him.

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>>87442134
To protect her smile.

I would be laughing my ass of in any of the Northern lords accuses Jon of betraying the North by bending the knee to Dany. I would be in tears if that lord then threatens to leave.

Motherfucker, the zombie apocalypse is here, and that's the only thing you care about?! Jon just saved all your asses, and you're complaining?

>>87442134
dude's a pragmatist. dragons are literally only defense against the NK. Jon needs bend knee 4 dragons. Jon bends knee.

So any new theory on why is Tyrion creep listening to Jon and Dany fucking?

I don't see him being jealous since he never showed any interest for her and he's probably not fooling himself by thinking he has any chance.
Only other theory I see is that he's aware of them being blood related. But how could he be?

Also am I understanding this right?
Jon is the son of the guy who got killed by melted gold?
I thought he was something like 20 years old...

>>87445828
Nathalie will do alright in B action flicks because she's an 11/10. damn

>>87442569
Not really a Jon fag but even if you were the Lord Commander, just a soldier in the NW, or a pleb even if you come back from the dead or not, you've got the right to take action against the people that killed him or conspired against him. Just the way justice is in the north.
Let alone the fact that he thinks he's doing what Ned taught him about justice and sentencing people to death

>>87442134
>help me fight the white walkers and i'll bend the knee
>bend the knee first and i'll help you bend the knee
>some time later
>okay, i'll help you fight the white walkers
>okay, i'll bend the knee
he kept his promise is all

>>87446386
The director didn't do a good job. That was it. He even had to explain the scene afterwards because no one understood it. Tyrion looked buttblasted, but it was supposed to be concerned look because he cares for them, but he's worried they're gonna keep jeopardizing the bigger mission of obtaining the Iron Throne.

They had that scene where he basically told her to choose between their mission or to go to Jon and she chose the latter. The scene was only stupid because it was Tyrion's plan in the first place and he sent the King in the North, their only ally and the man his queen loves on a suicide mission.

>>87446386
>So any new theory on why is Tyrion creep listening to Jon and Dany fucking?

The only thing I can think of is Tyrion fearing that Daenerys will lose her way and endanger herself for Jon. It could also be possible that he doesn't like the fact that Jon's opinions supersede any others in Dany's eyes.

Honestly, why would Tyrion looks so mortified that Jon and Dany got together? He teased Dany in the previous episode about her relationship with Jon, so how is this somehow a surprise for him? He also shouldn't be mad about Dany taking Jon's advice over his, since Jon is the only one who can make Dany calm down now, and because Tyrion's advice this season has been terrible, for the most part. The only good thing he did was mediate between Dany and Jon, and now he looks horrified that the two are now and love and will probably form a marriage alliance--which is probably the best possible outcome of them meeting in the first place.

Oh well, it should have been Jorah.

>>87442134
Absolutely no fucking reason.
>refuses to bend the knee even for help fighting the army of the dead
>daenerys saves his ass agrees to help fight army of the dead anyway for no reason
>bends the knee after getting what he wanted but wasn't willing to bend the knee for

>>87442134

He's pulling a Robb Stark only Jon has massive plot armor

>King of the North goes against his people's will to Dragonstone to negotiate Dany to fight the WW with the North
>Surrenders the sovereignty of the Northern Kingdom to a usurper
>somehow the rest of the North will be okay with giving the throne to another Targ with dragons

>>87446845
He's pulling a Robb Stark only he's the Last Hero destined to defeat the Night King and bring the Dawn.

>>87442569
>It shall not end until my death.
He died, so he can leave the Night's Watch.

The rest still regarded him Lord Commander, so they let him murder the ones who killed him. Because everyone around it was cool with it, it was okay. There's a bunch of extra-judicial killings in GoT, why is this an issue when Jon does it to the people who actually successfully murdered him?

>>87446871
>He's pulling a Robb Stark only he's the Last Hero destined to defeat the Night King

Exactly...plot armor. Even if he "dies" the Lord of Light will probably just revive him again.

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>>87445828
none of emilia's movies bombed tho, not even terminator. and me before you was success in every regard, unless you care about rotten tomatoes, which no one normal does

>>87442349
This is one of my favorite copypastas but can easily be refuted at any point unfortunately.

>>87446954
not unless the Night King gets to him first. I'd love to see him slaughtering everyone else, that would probably be the best ending to this already massacred show and would somewhat redeem it, but we all know Dany is the one getting the damn throne.

>>87442349
Do people ironically neck themselves?

>>87444444
ffffuuck me , no chance i'm going in the screencap

>>87446954
hey the story's transitioning to high fantasy. shit happens

>>87446651
>They had that scene where he basically told her to choose between their mission or to go to Jon and she chose the latter. The scene was only stupid because it was Tyrion's plan in the first place and he sent the King in the North, their only ally and the man his queen loves on a suicide mission.

Now that I think of Tyrion's plan more and more, it becomes dumber and dumber. Who the fuck was supposed to go capture the wight if not for Jon? He was probably the only one qualified in Westeros to lead the expedition, and if he died, add another 10,000 people who want Daenerys dead. Add to that the fact that Daenerys visibly freaked out after Jon said he was going to go, and Tyrion should have put two and two together and realized that if anything goes wrong, Dany was going to put herself in jeopardy.

But no, he let's The King in The North go on a suicide mission, and then tries to stop his queen from trying to salvage his plan when shit goes wrong.

>>87446845
>He's pulling a Robb Stark only Jon has massive plot armor

Robb betrayed the Freys for a nobody with a nice ass. Jon is going to get the most powerful woman in Westeros to help him save the North from extinction. How are those things in any way similar?

>King of the North goes against his people's will to Dragonstone to negotiate Dany to fight the WW with the North

Which worked.

>Surrenders the sovereignty of the Northern Kingdom to a usurper

As opposed to remaining sovereign and having to deal with Daenerys, Cersei, and The Night King?

>somehow the rest of the North will be okay with giving the throne to another Targ with dragons

What are they going to do, refuse the help?

"I would rather my whole family be slaughtered by ice demons than accept the help of Daenerys, her army, and her dragons!"

The only dumbass here is the one complaining about the people trying to save them from certain doom.

>>87442720
Lol giant zombie army precludes normal conceptions of Justice.

Jon does what's right and by that, I mean, he just does whatever gets him his selfish desires and right now that's Daenerys. You can't tell me during that scene he wasn't at least partly doing it because he wanted to bang. Notice how Sansa later said he would never listen to the people around him anyways, since he has no regard for their opinions.

>>87442887
He'll just pardon himself. Problem solved.

>>87442963
This is the correct answer.

>inb4 not a single female death next season.

>>87447403
>Cersei
>not dying

Get a load of this pleb.

Why didn't Jon ask to be released from his oath to Dany?

>>87445600
Most of the cast will appear steadily in British tv dramas.

>>87442134
Because the writers are marxist kikes with a feminist agenda.

>>87443647
Hopefully both Jon and Dany will die because the political power vacuum happening right now is almost as bad as the WW.

>>87444059
If Jon and Dany are both still alive I'll be unsubscribing from HBO

>>87446159
>ywn have these thumps up your anus

>>87444254
Please God Please. I need this to happen. Imagine the looks on the bar slags faces! I would literally cream my pants.

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>>87446159
her smile melts my heart

>>87446386
tribute to elliot rodgers

>>87444449
You aren't concerned that she's already lost 1/3 of the things that make her no more than an essos whore, correct?

>>87445828
Richard D or Richard D?

>>87446845
>somehow the rest of the North will be okay with giving the throne to another Targ with dragons
When the Northerners declared independence in season 1 they literally say "It was the dragons we bowed to, and now the dragons are dead. Why shouldn't we rule ourselves again?". There's an implicit understanding that dragons=surrender, the Northmen are proud but they're not retarded.

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>>87442349
>cuckshed coalition
top kek, it's true.

>>87447763
No, because GRRM isn't writing anymore which means no more tragic twists with main characters dying. GoT will have a happy ending and Dany/Jon will both survive. Azor Ahai is a red herring and the whole "kill your most beloved person to win the war" thing has never even been mentioned in the show. Viserion dying was just a plot device to enable Ice Dragons which are a cool spectacle and make it so there's actual tension instead of just "hurr dragons burn the entire wight army the end"

>>87447427
Just watch D&D exile her because everyone "understands her suffering...because she's a woman."

>>87447763
>>87448364
Also another thing: Viserion is named after Viserys, Dany's cuck brother. Drogon is named after Drogo, the guy who killed Viserys. Drogon will kill the ice-Viserion. Again, the writers, D&D and GRRM both, are obsessed with adding in these parallels because it makes them feel smart for writing them, and it makes their fans feel smart for "getting" them. They're everywhere and it makes the story really predictable.

>>87448364
If it all goes down like that I might just kill myself.

>>87447275
Negative. Jon could have had an alliance with Daenarys where he rules the North and she rules the other 6 Kingdoms. Instead he chose to give up his kingdom for pretty much no reason.

>>87448486
Guess you'd better start thinking of ways to do it, then. D&D are Hollywood writers, the rest of the show is going to be Hollywood grade predictable plot, shoehorned love story and all. I remember reading about this trick on /b/ where you glue your hands to your head and hang yourself with razor wire so it looks like you ripped off your own head. Might be cool.

>>87442569
This speaks to whether or not a Lord Commander has the sole authority to execute NW members. [Spoiler: we don't really know] The separate issue is there's no tradition or rule of law on permissible ways to disavow. Similarly for us, when a person dies, their commitments and titles are no longer their responsibility, either dying with them or passing to another person. If (just go with it) GRRM died like 5 days ago, then by some miracle fully recovered, we would not be able to treat him and his circumstances like any other person under the law because of its unprecedented nature. When this happens we wing it, as best we can given public policy. Back to Jon, since a new election had not yet taken place, it's understandable that the NW wouldn't mind picking up where they left off. This is where it gets murky, as you said wishy-washy, because we don't know whether his vow 1. can never be disavowed even by death 2. is automatically disavowed at the moment of death or 3. can voluntarily disavow, after death, at time of his choosing. If 1, Jon's a deserter. If 2, Jon executed traitors as a mere man of the NW, not as Lord Commander, which while interesting isn't on it's face unlawful, we just don't know based on the North's archaic, passed down law of "he who passes the sentence must..." if Jon had the authority, post death. If 3, no foul, "my watch has ended."

>>87446386
it would have made more sense to be Jorah Mormont

>>87448473
Jon will Warg/Ride the other dragon named after his Dad

>>87448502
>Jon could have had an alliance with Daenarys where he rules the North and she rules the other 6 Kingdoms.

And now he can have an alliance where he rules the Seven Kingdoms with Daenerys. Or do you honestly believe that they will continue to produce bastard children without a marriage somewhere down the line.

To be a whinger about Jon bending the knee, one has to ignore two crucial things: 1) there's a zombie apocalypse coming, so nobody will give a shit, and 2) Jon will likely propose to Daenerys, uniting the North and the rest of the kingdoms under marriage.

Jon bending the knee doesn't matter, regardless of how much you bitch about it.

>>87448473
I'm so fucking tired of the writers thinking they're clever and pulling the "hurr durr character gets killed by that characters' own signature way of killing people!" shit

>>87448851
Not warg, he'll just ride it. It's so obvious after the out of place scene where Jon pets Drogon and how the big focus of the last episode is "he's a targeryen!!".

>>87448906
What's wrong, didn't you enjoy Littlefinger being le outsmarted and outplayed by the epic webweaver Sansa? Chaos is a ladder haha!!

Or what about the Sand snakes being hung and impaled on their own weapons! Whoaaah!! And Cersei poisoned the Dornish princess with a kiss, omg it's POETIC, I'm literally shaking rn

Expect more poetry in season 8.

He got her dragon killed to save his life. It was the least he could do

>>87448887
Calm down with the reddit posting. As Jon said in he would not swear fealty to Daenerys because he is planning for the future after the white walkers. He went there for an alliance against the Night King. I don't want to get into the forced romance between two people who lack chemistry and have had a total shared screen time of 8 minutes this season. The season ended with him saying "I bend the knee" and he said it for no reason. Daenarys was already going to accept his initial terms of temporary alliance against Night King and you can stay independent.

>even Cercei offers to let him stay king in the north

>>87442349
I miss the old Jon. One that is always loyal to fault I miss crow Jon. I miss the first season where Bobby B was alive.

He should have just proposed then he could still be king

>>87449061

Don't forget Frey getting killed in the very hall he killed the Starks in.
Or Bolton the backstabber getting backstabbed by Ramsay
Or Ramsay getting devoured by his own dogs.
Or the Waif getting killed in the darkness because she couldn't see, after constantly attacking Arya while she was blind

>>87442279
Underrated

>>87449200

Now you are lying, ignoring what happened in the show, and still hung up on Jon bending the knee, which DOES. NOT. MATTER.

Two yes or no questions:
1. Is the North going to be better off, odds-wise, with Dany helping now?
2. If Jon and Dany survive, do you think it will be likely that they marry or unlikely?

It is so strange that you are obsessed with something that will amount to nothing story-wise. Jon bending the knee would have little effect on anything in the long-run, even if he wasn't going to marry Daenerys. If there is a Mad Targaryen 100 years down the line, do you honestly believe that he or she would give two fucks about the North's independence?

You are complaining just to complain.

>>87449238
Cersei is a weak ass bitch that was in no position to give offers. She would have been dead from the beginning of the season if Dany wanted it

>>87448502
>Jon could have had an alliance with Daenarys where he rules the North and she rules the other 6 Kingdoms.
No, he couldn't have. The North's armies have been decimated, they're short on food, meanwhile Dany has access to all the food of the Reach, full-strength armies, and most importantly two full-grown dragons. If Jon does anything other than bend the knee the end result is dragons burning Winterfell to the ground.

>>87442134
for da poussi

>>87449635

Cersei truly has done nothing since blowing up the Great Sept. She has no idea how to rule or wage war. She can like through her teeth, and that's it. She is dumb enough to think that 20,000 men will help her against the undead, despite the fact that she has no dragonglass at all. She better start making a shit ton of wildfire soon.

>>87449402
Or Ned being executed by someone passing a sentence and having someone else swing the sword. (And the guy who swung the sword was incapable of ANY sentence, since he was a mute who had his tongue ripped out)
Or Xaro Xhoan Daxos being locked in his own vault and starving to death because he can't eat money.
Or Stannis being killed by someone doing their duty.
Or Balon Greyjoy dying from drowning.

>>87442766

yea she already gave him everything he asked for. there was no reason to bend the knee

>>87450100

And she will marry him, most likely, so there is no reason to complain. You can keep whining over and over again, but this is a non-issue.

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>>87450137
>non-issue
Only if you have autism. It's an issue because they decided to make Jon act like a fucking cuck just to play into the writers' YASS QUEEN SLAY pro-dany delusions. It's not about actions themselves. It's about characterization.

>>87450100
He's got a huge sense of honor. She sacrificed something important to save him so he'll do something she wanted to try and pay her back.

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>promises the North to be king
>doesn't lie to Cersei due to 'muh honesty'
>bends the knee

I fucking hate him.

>>87450137
The reason to complain is that when they get married, Jon is now the junior partner and remains her subordinate. If he didn't swear fealty he could have made it a marriage alliance and established the titular status of the North as equal to the other six individual kingdoms put together. And their child would hold a dual title, leaving the North with an eventual out instead of being forever subordinate to Southern kings yet again. Bending the knee was a pointless blunder, very short-sighted

>>87450295
It's like Jon read the script ahead of time and made sure to do the most convoluted bullshit just to keep tension in the story alive.

>>87450202
>do something to pay her back

yea like bake her a fucking not give up the whole North

>>87449973
>Cersei truly has done nothing since blowing up the Great Sept. She has no idea how to rule or wage war.
Tbf that's actually faithful to the source material.

>>87450420
If he doesn't give up the North, Dany just takes it. Jon isn't stupid, he knows what happened the last time kings tried defying Targaryen invaders.

>>87450384
What really pisses me off is that the show's hyped up this Danyturd to such heights that the normies don't even get that he basically screwed the North over and broke a promise.

>>87450296
This. I would've been perfectly happy if the solution to the problem were a marriage proposal between King Jon and Queen Kelly C. But instead, he's now the diminutive fuccboi

>>87450199

No, you are the one being autistic. You're ignoring basically every interaction that Jon and Dany had this season. You're ignoring the fact that Jon has been the dominant one in their relationship despite possessing no power whatsoever. You're ignoring the fact that, even at the end of the season, Daenerys has conceded to Jon multiple times, has put her life in danger for him, and has lost a dragon for him. What has Jon sacrificed for Dany so far? He said he will bend the knee. Wow, whoopdefuckingdoo.

Jon left the North with Davos to get help from Daenerys. Not only did Jon get the help, he got her to fall in love with him. Jon got Daenerys, 50,000 Dothraki and Unsullied, and TWO dragons. He will also probably get to rule the Seven .

Again, non-issue. Your only autistic contention is that he bent the knee. That's it. You are obsessed with a problem that has zero consequences.

Jon actually has a major Oedipus complex due to growing up without a mother. So when he meets Dany who's mother/queen/secret aunt he can't help but kneel.

>>87450502
What really pisses me off is so many people think Jon ever had a choice. Dany shows up with dragons and a massive army and Jon is supposed to say "nah, let's try fighting that?". With nearly all the Stark amies wiped out in the past few wars? If he didn't bend the knee he would doom the entire north.

>>87450476

Except she already promised him to be his ally. She already letting Yara be queen and she gives less of a shit about her then she does jon.

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>>87450551
Women should be rangebanned from 4chan. Fuck off, thot.

>>87450595
Her title and goal is still to rule the Seven Kingdoms. When she makes the deal with Yara she says "you will respect the integrity of the 7 kingdoms". The Iron Islands are still part of it.

>>87450296
>The reason to complain is that when they get married, Jon is now the junior partner and remains her subordinate

Her subordinate? Dany has been listening to all of Jon's advice for 3 episodes now, and that's before they even fucked. Now you think that they will marry and he will be the bitch in the relationship?

You whiners are looking for reasons to complain at this point.

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>>87447143

Screencap of what? Sexts are pretty rare but not screencap worthy unless the content of the post is something special.

>>87450296
>Jon is now the junior partner and remains her subordinate

Which him being Aegon Targaryen solves by making him the rightful King

>eventual out

They can secede no matter what anyway whenever they want.

And equals would never work. North needs the South/Dany more than the other way around, it wouldn't be a dual title, just one

Not that anon btw

>>87450296
Also, another problem is that Jon is technically superior to Daenerys in terms of heredity. He, not Dany, is the rightful heir to the title of the seven kingdoms, since the Targeryens practice Agnatic Primogeniture. The rightful heir of the Iron Throne was Aerys's oldest son Rhaegar, who had Jon Snow as his legitimate child, meaning he is Rhaegar's heir. Not Viserys, and consequently not Daenerys.

By swearing fealty to Daenerys he completely fucks this over. His claim to the throne is effectively null now unless Dany decides to just hand it back over.

Because fighting against dragons is stupid and every Westeros king that ever tried it died horribly?

>>87446386
Because he knows they are both impulsive and having a relationship on top of everything going on will make them both act even more stupid.

>>87450614

So, acknowledging the fact that Jon wears the pants in this relationship makes me a woman?

All of you whiners are taking the side of the woman in this case.

>>87450669
He is literally legally her subordinate, that's what "bending the knee" means. Jon is a subject of Daenerys, the North is no longer independent as long as Jon is king.

>>87449635
yet the idiot writers chose to make the dragonpit meeting about Cersei and the suicide mission for her instead of putting people from throughout the 7 kingdoms because LOL Muh Lena is only the other big character on the show after dany and jon

>>87442134
Dany really came to save them by herself, putting her life and the life of her dragons on the line. At first he didn't know her and told that for all he know she was just another Mad king, then he tell her "They (his fellow northmen) will come to see you for what you're", someone who care, she's the same type of king/queen as him, she's loyal and step on the battlefield for her people.

>>87450524
Can't. If Jon and Dany have to hook up, it has to be for real, not politics

>>87450570
Then why not fuck mini Catelyn (Sansa) or his real mother's lookalike (Arya)?

>>87450791

I am wondering what is so wonderful about this independence that so many of you are bitching about? What does that guarantee the North?

If Jon marries Dany as Warden of The North instead of King in The North, how does that in anyway change their relationship in a NOTICEABLE (keyword here) way? All I keep hearing about is how, in theory, this could be bad, but nobody can explain why.

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>>87450775
No, pic-related makes you obviously a fucking roastie.

Also

reddit

spacing

>>87450614

wow you're a hardcore woman hater huh

mommy must have not gave you enough attention I guess little guy

>>87450741
>Which him being Aegon Targaryen solves by making him the rightful King
Except he swore fealty to Dany and recognized her as the rightful holder of the Iron Throne, meaning he gave up his right to inherit it himself. Unless Dany decides to just be like "oh lol well I guess I'd better let you be king instead, time to throw away my entire life's effort to take back the throne lmao!"

>They can secede no matter what anyway whenever they want.
I'm not talking about secession, I'm talking about the title of King in the North passing to someone who isn't also King of the six kingdoms (seven kingdoms minus the north). Which would effectively make the North independent, without another stupid fucking war.

>And equals would never work. North needs the South/Dany more than the other way around, it wouldn't be a dual title, just one
I agree that the North needs the South more since the population of the South is way, way bigger, but it would be a dual title. If Jon didn't bend the knee he'd still be king in the north, and Dany would in turn recognize his kingship and abandon the right of the holder of the Iron Throne to rule the North. Meaning Jon would be King in the North, and Dany would be Protector of the Six Kingdoms. The child of Jon and Dany would presumably inherit the titles, but inherit them separately, from his mother and father. In theory the titles could be unified later but they could also be left separate, meaning they could be inherited by different people later.

>Benjen warns Jon about making vows and giving something up without realizing what it means
>gives up his rights to the throne by taking the black
>gets released from vows
>inadvertently gives up his rights to the iron throne AGAIN by bending the knee to Dany

POTTERY

>>87450929
>What does that guarantee the North?
How about it guarantees they don't have their family taken hostage, killed, executed unjustly, tortured, etc? You know, the whole reason for Robert's Rebellion and the War of the Five Kings? Did you even watch the show or read the books at all? The Northern lords get fucked over by Southerners at every turn.

>If Jon marries Dany as Warden of The North instead of King in The North, how does that in anyway change their relationship in a NOTICEABLE (keyword here) way?
Jon is warden and not king, which means the King in the North is no longer legally equal to the Protector of the Seven Kingdoms. This means that the North is no longer autonomous. And Jon didn't even negotiate for this concession, he just gave it away. No promises of extended rights or privileges, no guarantees of anything.

Remember how Aegon was never able to conquer Dorne? And they joined the Seven Kingdoms by a marriage alliance? And in return they retained some independence and got a lot of power in the royal court? Jon could have made a similar deal for the North. But he didn't, because he's stupid and naive.

>>87442134
Because the cloud in the cave told him to.

>>87451074
>Unless Dany decides to just be like "oh lol well I guess I'd better let you be king instead, time to throw away my entire life's effort to take back the throne lmao!"

She won't but d he will recognize Jon as Rhaegar's son and heir and unite their claims.

>Which would effectively make the North independent,

Which would be pointless if they're getting married to unite stuff anyway

>inherit them separately,

Nah, that'd be stupid

>>87451315
>She won't but d he will recognize Jon as Rhaegar's son and heir and unite their claims.
>Which would be pointless if they're getting married to unite stuff anyway
Which by all counts should infuriate the northern lords and cause them to select a new king and revolt against southern rule which they spent their lives, and the lives of their children, to throw off.

But they don't because D&D are writing and there's only eight episodes left. They'll just learn to accept and love Dany Sue just like literally everyone else except unambiguous "bad guys" like Cersei have.

>>87450591

I don't know why literally ANYONE is fighting against Dany. Cersei, it kinda makes sense since Dany will likely roast her even if she did surrender.

Good fucking luck with what, 30k troops maybe? If Euron even comes through with the mercs. Dany would win even without dragons, with dragons she's absolutely dominant.

Its like these people never heard the story of Aegon I

>>87450746
There's also the issue that all claims are only as good as the army you've got to back it up. Dany has two dragons, the Dothraki, the Ironborn, Dorne, and the Reach on her side. Jon has the North (which is down to like half-strength) and the Vale.

>>87451005
>so mad she replies twice

>>87450746

I really don't think Jon gives a fuck about wanting to be the "rightful" king or a king at all, shit he'd probably be relieved that Dany wants the crown anyway

Plus, Daenerys has two dragons and like five times the army of Jon. If she wants to be Queen who is gonna stop her?

>>87451568

different anon and I'm not even a womyn :^)

>>87451538
This is an aside but how the fuck are the Dothraki and Unsullied a long-term threat? How is Dany possibly feeding all of these thousands of people and their horses, auxiliaries, etc? Where the fuck does she get the money or food? Are the Dothraki really just pillaging everything in sight contrary to Dany's orders? Shit makes almost as much sense as Davos's teleporting boats.

Also, what's going to happen to the thousands of Dothraki and Unsullied after she becomes queen? Surely she can't send them back home because she'd be in danger. Are they just permanent immigrants now? Really makes you think.

>>87451416
Revolt with what army lol?

One of their own will share rule, whatever kids had will hold Northern views and northern ties and keep helping them after the wars and during reconstruction, best they've ever had.

>>87451416
>Which by all counts should infuriate the northern lords and cause them to select a new king and revolt against southern rule which they spent their lives, and the lives of their children, to throw off.

Um, no they wouldn't. They still have Sansa and a Arya, and those two are not going rebel because a few Northern lords got their fee-fees hurt.

Also, why would the lords rebel if Dany and Jon just saved their lives from certain death? From a purely practical viewpoint, bending the knee has no negative repercussions at all, especially because it would be a moot point once Jon and Dany marry.

Isn't there a prophecy mentioning 3 heads for 3 dragons? Could Tyrion be the missing targaryen?

Also could Bronn be of House Reyne?

Jon doesn't believe she's infertile and bangs her anyways. Given how he feels about bastards they're probably thinking a political marriage is the best move for both of them.

Also, it's not like the North will even want to object to anything when they see zombie dragon just tore down the wall and Drogon is the best line of defense.

>>87451702
I just like how food from high garden was a somewhat major plotpoint, and then after Dany's dragons destroyed all the food supplies, that just stopped being an issue and got memory-holed.

Speaking of memory holes, what the hell happened to sandy snek and mama street-shitter?

>>87451882

one is a skeleton and the other one is probably pretty close to being a skeleton

>>87447593

Why because you want the show to be predictable as fuck and have "muh villains always win" formula?

>>87451882
>sandy snek and mama street-shitter?
Murdered by Euron and imprisoned forever by Cersei respectively

they're going to kill him off after they've confirmed dany is pregonent you heard it here first

>>87451851

im pretty sure he just wanted some pussy from literally the hottest woman on the entire planet (at least in-narrative)

I doubt he was like ok, time to make a baby

>>87442349
>>87442349
You shouldn't babble on about bullshit you clearly don't understand.

>>87451911
No, because I fucking hate Kit Harrington and Emilia Clarke for being rich, successful, white, good-looking, AND well-liked, all at the same time. It's not fucking fair, there HAS to be something bad in their life. I keep watching Game of Thrones in the sole hope that I get to see the life choked away from one of them on screen. I skip all scenes that don't have them in it because it's all I care about at this point. I might just make my own version of the series where they die in every episode if it never happens, i've already made it through the first season as a rough draft anyway, fuck it at this point

>>87451882
>Dany's dragons destroyed all the food supplies
They burned 5 carts.

He doesn't care about anything else than the war against the Night King. He does whatever he feels necessary. Also, he's the heir to the throne anyway so this doesn't mean shit in the long run.

>>87447012
That terminator flopped you faggot.

>>87442349
Well that's retarded. Everyone will end up knowing the truth that he is a Targaryen and he will no longer be King in the North. Sansa will take his place.

>>87452323

It's probably best that Jon keeps that a secret. He kept being undead a secret, so he should keep that a secret, too.

>>87452282
It made more than budget m8

>>87452029
Let me guess. Asian?

>>87452698
Because of plebs like you, chuckles.

>>87452767
Didn't pay for it faggot, t. Amazon prime, and wouldn't have, it was shit and a sequel/prequel made years later which is always terrible

>>87452029
You should either go outside, or up your SSRI'S. I'd go with both.

>>87452857
You've already proven that you're fucking retarded. Dismissed.

What do you think Targ farts smell like? Are the Sulphurie?

>>87453243
Butane

>>87442279
Holy fuck

what do you guys think Dany's pussy tastes like? Since she's the queen I bet she has access to semi regular showers, maybe once every few days. Just maybe, maybe Jon had the pleasure to eat her filthy cunt after a long hard day of riding on a dragon and being a shitty actor.

>>87451797
>Isn't there a prophecy mentioning 3 heads for 3 dragons?
Irrelevant now thanks to viserion

>Also could Bronn be of House Reyne?
Literally everyone in House Reyne was murdered

>>87444444
fucky ou

>>87451797
>sn't there a prophecy mentioning 3 heads for 3 dragons?
It was Rhaegar, Viserys, and Dany.

>>87442569
His death freed him from the vow but he retained his lord commander position until AFTER he executed the traitors and then passed it onto Dolorous Edd.

>>87442979
you just know yms has fapped to this gif at least once

He's had a hard life and thinks he'll die in the next war. Just let him be happy for once.

>>87442232
She didn't even seem to give a fuck that one of "children" died so why should he or we care?

>>87442279
All these fags are replying to this like its new when It's an ebaums tier meme. Stay shitty

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>>87442349
Yeah, but still the whole point with "The King who Knelt" is that he most likely saved his people from burning and dying in a pointless battle.

Don't get me wrong I think he bent the knee way too fast to make sense, but the comparison isn't good unless you also argue that Jon was trying to save his people from an inevitable end at the hands of Dany.

>>87442932
>King Stannis

>>87454268
>passed on command of the nights watch
Holy fuck you are retarted. The NW ELECTS their leader. They have done it 998 times. Is everyone along the wall just cool with some weak nobody like Dolorous Edd being in charge? Its not like there was a whole plotline about Jon being elected or anything

>>87442291
underrated

>>87444444
Witnessed

>>87445632
If 7 seasons in you still dont know who Rhaegar is, you should be euthanized

>>87450295
do you think mance rayder's ashes are floating around in their grave when jon talked about his "no lying" policy?

>>87450741
>Which him being Aegon Targaryen solves by making him the rightful King
technically dany is still the rightful ruler 2bh, annulment autism aside

aerys disinherited rhaegar's kids after the battle of the trident and made viserys his heir, who made dany his heir

>>87457421
>making a woman heir
>kings having the power to set aside male heirs

Dance of Dragons and Great council says no

It doesn't matter since according to the shows logic he the legitimate Targaryen heir, as uncomfortable as Dany and sjw's watching will be they will regoinize him as the true King. Women btfo.

>>87442134
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_union

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>>87444444
BOI

>>87442134
He loved her.

>>87442134
Dany literally raped it out of him, Jon was sick and feverish from having plunged into a frozen lake and in that moment of weakness the dragon queen stormed into his sickroom and coerced him into bending the knee. There's no way that can be considered consensual.

>>87442134
to kiss dany pusy xD

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>>87457546
>>kings having the power to set aside male heirs

but they do.
>Dance of Dragons and Great council says no

she was the rightful heir, but the entire point is that succession can get messy.

>>87443351
Because he still is part Northerner dumbass, Lyanna Stark was idolized up in the North for one, and at this point as others said, Jon still is a fullborn northerner no matter the name

>>87445600
Nikolaj Coster-Waldeau(AKA Jaime Lannister) will be the most successful out of all of them. Dude is the best pure actor on the show next to Davos, Beric, and Theon

>>87458641
Jaime is literally ABC-network-drama tier, and i say that with all my love.

Only actor i can see with a career beyond is Peter Dicklage, if he stop keep ruining his career doing Adam Sandler movies.

>>87446386
The one theory is that he made a deal with Cersei after he found out she was pregnant, hence why it cut off the conversation and they came back like nothing was wrong. Its even alluded to in the post credit scene discussions the show has on HBO Go.

>>87458452
>but they do

They don't

>she was the rightful heir,

Great Council disagrees

>>87458641
No, he just easily has he best storyline of any character

>>87442134
If he marries her he becomes king of westeros, so why not.

do u think dany gonna be mad when she finds out her dragon is now a frosty bad boi

>>87442134

Because this is a feminist show and they needed to emasculate the last remaining male with any power.

>>87442134
Technically he didn't.

>>87458757
Shot-Caller, the film he just made that came out a few weeks ago begs to say otherwise, great fucking film

>>87442134
Jon literally just wanted to pump Dany's cunt full of cum and sire her malformed inbred children

>>87458821
>They don't
why would they not be able to, it's been done before.

>Great Council disagrees

a great council hasn't been called when a king explicitly named a woman as his heir. in the dance of dragons they just used the small council, and it wasn't even unanimous and heavily corrupt.

>>87458989
>been done before.

Unsuccessfully when there's a male heir present. Maegor I usurped and naming his niece his heir did nothing. Jaehaerys skipped a woman. Half of Westeros and the Great Council after disagreed with Viserys/Rhaenyra.

Only time a male has been skipped was maegor and that was by a Great Council

>unanimous and heavily corrupt.

Talking about the great Council called after that determined women can't inherit

>>87442279
It's over.

>>87442279

noice

>>87459305
>Maegor I usurped and naming his niece his heir did nothing. Jaehaerys skipped a woman.
Woman that weren't explicitly named heir. Rhaenyra should've been ruler, Even Aegon 2 was going to honor her claim, but was forced into the war by a dude that got cucked and his mom.

>Half of Westeros and the Great Council after disagreed with Viserys/Rhaenyra
Even


>Talking about the great Council called after that determined women can't inherit
it determined that ordinarily the male line took priority, but this didn't take into account a king explicitly naming a woman heir

>>87460229
>Woman that weren't explicitly named heir.

Yes she was. And Aegon went along with it, don't act like he waged a war and got crowned because he's some Tommen like bitch who just goes along with the strongest voice.

>king explicitly naming a woman heir

Considering what they just went through with the Dance, it's definitely about men getting the throne instead of women no matter what even if they were named heir as Rhaenyra was

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>>87458909
He did. Sansa literally says it when he sent the letter saying as much

>>87458986
>malformed

Thousands of years of Targ incest still no deformities and still producing 10/10. Suck their superior genes

>>87442134
Well see, his football career was just damn near done because he's a shitty player, so he had to do something to keep himself viable . So by doing some virtue signaling, he could make getting dropped from the roster about racism and victimhood instead of his inability to play football. So when everyone else stood up for the National Anthem, he...
Wait. Who we talking about here?

>>87461417
Reddit

>>87444449
>dany
>best anything

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>>87443647
>>87444482
>implying you wouldn't instantly bend