Can season 1 of True Detective be considered Lovecraftian horror?

No.

no u fucking faggot

>>87422423
No you idiot. There was nothing remotely supernatural in the show. Are you on dope?

>>87422423
Do you ever think before posting things on the internet?

>>87422423
it has elements of it though

well it was only good when we didn't know what the fuck was going on

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>lovecraftian

>>87422525
did you even watch it?

It follows the formula of many of Lovecraft's works. Protagonist(s) working to uncover the acts of a cult where said cult's followers have unclear, mysterious, and disturbing motivations and practices. By the end of the story the protagonist (Matthew) finds his own mind to begin slipping as he becomes more and more invested culminating in him seeing Carcosa (which is if I recall correctly a direct reference to a cosmic horror in Lovecraft's mythos.) It's not clear whether or not what he sees is actually real and evidence that the cult was on to something or if it was just some fucked acid flashback but still.

>>87422568
>>87422529
>>87422525
samefag

>>87422581
>Hallucinations = The Supernatural

What the fuck are you on about?

Can OP be considered a massive faggot?
Yes

>>87422423
No. It never actually contained any supernatural elements, no matter how much some fans wanted it to.

>>87422652
Isn't clear if it was a hallucination. None of his hallucinations were anywhere near as intense or vivid as what he saw in Carcosa.

>>87422423
Yes it was the most lovecraftian thing in many respects in both movies and vidya. Ignore the shitters that say otherwise cause they have never read any lovecraft story.

Did we ever establish whether it's okay to mow another man's lawn or not?

>>87422601
This.

>>87422609
namefag

>>87422680
yes

>>87422711
He literally said that he suffers from hallucinations due to his time as an undercover cop and the massive amounts of drugs hes taken. Seriously go rewatch the show you clueless faggot.

>>87422711
Whatever he saw disappeared immediately afterward, and if Childress or Marty saw it they never indicated that they did. The smart money's on it being a hallucination.

>>87422777

You're a fucking nigger. That's the point. It could be either a hallucination or something real. His past hallucinations consist of him seeing distorted lights and patterns in a flock of birds. These are nowhere near intense as seeing a cosmic portal opening up in the sky.

>>87422834
You absolute fuckface. He made it VERY clear that they were just hallucinations throughout the entire fucking show. Thats his character you inept dweeb. He is mental.

>>87422760
It is not.

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Reggie knew Rust would see Carcosa. He knew Errol would be there waiting for him. "You're in Carcosa now. He sees you."

>>87422706
The lovecraftian horror is about the unknow not the supernatural shit per se.

>>87422601

Yes. This guy gets it.

>Lovecraft isn't tentacles

Part of why season 1 was so good was how it flirted with Lovecraftian/supernatural shit without being totally overt and committing to it. If they had actually went all out with tentacles and space gods it would've been fucking retarded.

Yes, I'd say so and my opinion counts because i'm a confirmed genius

>>87422937
nor is rubbing another man's rubarb

>>87422960
This was such a brilliant scene
>youre in carcosa now..

>>87422706
Also, since when is anything supernatural a lovecraftian element?
This thread is mega shit.

>>87423137
I'd have no problem with it, in fact I hope in season 3 it's even stronger

>>87423286
Honestly I wouldn't be totally against it either. They could totally pull it off. I honestly wouldn't mind them tying the story to the events of season 1 either. Maybe the new protagonists eventually picking up the pieces and going after the Tuttles with Rust making an appearance again.

>>87422423
NO.

KYS TREVOR.

>>87423137
No, it would have been what they advertized it would be!

I surely was disappointed that nothing really lovecraftian ever manifested in the end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8zTSDFiI24

its literally philosophy 101 written by a pretentious community college professor.

>>87422680
YES

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>>87422755
>saemfags his own thread after being shit on for 20 minutes

>>87423407
Stop referring as anything even remotely supernatural as lovecraftian, you retarded fuck.

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>>87423432
But how would you know when you clearly dropped out in grade 8 Gummo?

Not one chance kek

/tv/ btfo

"mmmm i got a clue" - matthew mckonyhey

>>87423531
What? I'm in the OPPOSITE camp. I was DISAPPOINTED that the show had nothing lovecraftian/supernatural going on, despite being advertized as so.

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Isnt it about time Op deletes this shitfest and makes his usual gay Cthulhu movie pasta everyone shits on?

Name me three (3) "Lovecratian" tv shows.

>>87423700
True Detective Season 1 (2014)
True Detective Season 2 (2015)
True Detective Season 3 (2018)

>>87423700
batman vs superman

>>87423624
>lovecraftian/supernatural
Just stop.

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>>87423647
I unno, LOL

>>87423833
No, U!

Why the fuck weren't Marty and Rust immediately arrested at the end? They weren't even legal agents of the law anymore, forcibly entered that house and threatened the retard with a gun before shooting Errol. Is that not illegal?

>>87423900
Marty made a deal with hothead cop

>>87422423
Idk but I know its ofter refered to as "McConaugheyesque"

>>87422652
>Hallucinations = supernatural
That's basically how modern gothic fiction works you fucking dunce

>>87422601
I thought it was made pretty obvious that all that was was Rust having yet another drug flashback hallucination.

>>87422423
I dunno, but I'm going to rewatch it to get the shit taste of The Return out of my mind.

>>87425809
I'd agree but there's no denying that vision in Carcosa is waaaay more intense than any of his past hallucinations.

True Detective S1 takes far more inspiration from Thomas Ligotti than H.P Lovecraft, if you want to talk Horror writers.

>>87425907
I think it had something to do with the location. He's at the spot where the guy he's been chasing for nearly twenty years lives. All the weird imagery, stick things, it's the culmination of Rust's detective journey. The hallucinations just got kicked up a notch due to that, IMO.

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>>87422601
Caspar knew this

>>87426003
Finally someone contributes something worthwhile to this garbage thread.

Is this show any good or is it just a generic detective show?

>>87427812
actually good

>>87422423
It's not Lovecraftian it's Chambersian.
The king in yellow comes from the writings of Robert Chambers.
Even the fact that criminals and one of the heroes are probably mad and see mirages could pretty much fit into the style of that story circle.

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>>87422423
>Lovecraftian

>>87422601
I watched it this way, too. I've read quite a few non-lovecraft novels that follow the same pattern. It didn't have a proper conclusion to be truly Lovecraftian horror, at least in my book. It did sink my mind into season 1 of True Detective though. That shit was unreals, with that pacing and acting delivery being attacked from two sides in the genre like that.

Absolute kino.

>>87428024
Chambers directly inspired Lovecraft's works. Dude loved The King in Yellow.

>>87422423

>A few instances of the supernatural
>Likely in one of the characters minds or more likely...
>Thematic elements for visual flair
>No lovecraftian elements or horrors found or even implied
>The entire thing is gothic horror at best in that regard

Nope.

>>87426003

Woody Harrelson is the luckiest goddamn man alive for a man whos father was a hitman.

>>87428699
>Story taking place over a long period of time
>Centered around investigation into a mysterious and seemingly insane cult.
>Damaged protagonists, one of which has continuous brushes with insanity
>Reoccurring dialogue on the true nature of time, dimensions, the universe.
>An actual fucking cosmic portal appears (whether it's a hallucination or not.)

This is literally the format near every Lovecraft story uses.

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>>87422423
You tell me.

btw it was Satan