Guilty Until Proven Innocent: The Show

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>>87418335
>What was your plan here?
>My plan? Just to hang out.

>>87418645
Is it a crime to hang out in the nude now?

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>>87418662
No, and neither is getting a bite to eat at McDonald's

It's a goddamn shame

>>87418378
>if i could walk
lmao fucking cripple

>>87418645
staged as fuck

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>>87418335
Faggot Until Proven Otherwise: The Poster

Their chat logs are proof of guilt.

>>87422205
>Thought Crimes
Maybe this was okay in the Obongo era, not not now

>>87422496
Original TCAP aired during the Bush administration. There are laws and not following them is a crime.

>>87422557
cuck

>>87422565
Interesting analysis, anon. Really game changing stuff.

Pedos get the bullet

>>87418645
Give us sound for fuck sakes it's a movie/tv board

>>87418335
Fucking Pedo sub humans getting BTFO

>>87418335
You don't have to be proven to be a pedo in court to be a pedo

can we not make this another boring MUH ENTRAPMENT thread and just post predatorkino?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWawqTfa3vU

>>87422789
>sound
>on any board other than /gif/ or /wsg/
Literally how new are you?

>>87418378
damn anarchist

>>87418335
Based Chris Hansen dehumanizing Pedos even more.

>>87418335
I mean, the fact that the guys show up are enough to prove intent for the most part. And 'innocent until proven guilty' is a legal construct, it's not literal. Yes, you will be considered innocent in the legal sense until the case is decided, but that doesn't mean you're literally innocent of wrongdoing. If the cops catch you in the act of violently murdering something, you'll TECHNICALLY be 'innocent' until the judge says so as far as the law is concerned, but that doesn't mean you aren't guilty as shit and everyone knows it.

>>87422991
He's saying change it so /tv/ can have sound on webm's you dense cunt.

>Anon travelled all the way to what he thought was a 14 year old boy's house looking...FOR SAX!

>>87423308
They also mention in the show several times that just the act of soliciting sex to a minor is a crime, whether it's in person or chatting online. They can talk dirty to them all they want, but when they actually set up a meeting point and time and agree to it, that's when they really fucked up. At that point, it's just a matter of catching them.

>>87423499
They also tend to add stuff on, like sending pornography or bringing the minor alcohol.

>contact female online
>catch on to "her" being Perverted Justice
>never say anything sexual

What happens then? Do they let it go? Try to bait inappropriate messages? What if all obscene contact came before an age was specified, or do they make that clear right at the beginning?

>>87423591
Lol get shot pedo

Some of these dudes made like 12 hour drives for boipucci. Last week I drove 4 hours for a 98 neon R/T, we'll let America decide who's the real criminal

>>87423616
Sorry to disappoint, reddit, but I'm legitimately curious about their tactics and how they avoid being considered entrapment. I vaguely recall that they won't initiate obscene chatter, but come on, they gotta get them ratings somehow, and the more hapless the target the better.

>>87423591
They make it clear what age they're supposed to be. They talk about how they post their sex and age up front, then wait for people to talk to them first, and if they bring up sex, they keep talking. They say they never initiate conversation. They wait for it.

>>87423591
they probably just move on

>>87423727
Ah, OK, so they do take a passive role, then.

>>87423684
That's just it, they don't initiate anything sexual. The men always do, so it's not entrapment.

It doesn't even take much effort, a lot of men out there are really dumb. This >>87422860 deformed, ugly retard literally thought some hot 14 year would want to sleep with him. And a lot of men will start saying sexual things right away, it's only illegal when they suggest meeting up and then actually do it (plus sending the decoys porn, which is illegal). This likely means that they only get the guys who actually show up, the decoys probably talked to a bunch of guys that were smarter than that and just wanted to cyber.

>>87423684
>how they avoid being considered entrapment.
It's only legally entrapment if a reasonable person wouldn't turn it down
If the person undercover has to sweeten the deal in any way because the person they're trying to get is getting cold feet or changing their minds, then it's entrapment
If an undercover agent offers drugs to someone and they buy them up front it's a legal bust
If the buyer says no, and then the officer offers to lower the price or increase the quantity et cetera, then it's entrapment.

>>87423727
This still happens. My gf is really petite and gets tons of unsolicited "hey"s and dick pics, she role plays a trap online to troll people but lately guys have been continuing to beg, it's weird. Like they're 100% random people, do all girls get this?

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>playing Vidya online
>some kid starts speaking to me, whatever, just go along with it to be nice.
>hey you're funny anon. Will you add me on snapchat or instagram?
>mfw
>tell him i don't have those and to be careful about adding random people online

I always get spooked by shit like that, in case they're pedo hunters or something.

>>87423832
Obviously. They're not trying to coax people into fucking children. They just go after the really dumb ones that bring it up first.

>>87423684
Why?
To know how to be more cautious when you try it yourself?

I could make a movie about one of the agents they use to pose as a young girl falling in love with a Chad pedo and warning him army the sting, then running away to Mexico or something, haven't figured out the 3rd act

>>87422860
the best was michael wehry by far, the guy never stops digging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27-VPfFj7_k

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>>87418335
Pedos BTFO and driven to suicide: The show
Kino

>>87423963
He dumps her when he realizes shes of legal age.

You wrote here that you wanted to "smash that preteen ass-pussy until you couldn't walk in your velcro trainers anymore".

Now what did you mean by that?

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If you'd chat with this girl then you are going to prison.

>>87423822
No they don't. One time they caught someone from a district attorney's office. He stopped talking to the decoy and never shows up at the sting. They tried to ambush him at his house and he killed himself. It's one of the reasons why the show was cancelled.

Oh, I know who you are, Chris. I didn't come for no kids, either. I came for you. I like you, and I want you. I am a warrior, and I want that booty.

>>87423499
>They can talk dirty to them all they want
No, they actually can't. As that's also specifically illegal.

>>87424240
>that's nice
>*arrests you for online solicitation of a minor*

>>87422860
>the cold disgust by the cop
based

>>87420376
>>87418645
I always felt sorry for this fucker I don't know why either. He's second best next to the milk guy

>>87424233
Nice

>>87423684
actual reason:

The laws are written in such a way as entrapment would be impossible.

>>87424009
Holy shit he got completly fucked by hansen

>>87424289
I see you're choosing the hard way

>>87418335
>I want to rape you anally
>"I like rape!"
>"can i meet u?"

Totally innocent.

>>87423963
She catches him raping a young girl in Mexico and kills him in a fit of rage. Final scene is her realizing that she has thrown her life away for nothing.

>>87424721
Why were the writers of The Boondocks pro pedo?

Hansen belongs in prison PERIOD.

>>87422860
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BtRe4KaxfeE
This is the best one

>>87424862
How many Pedos commit Suicide becuase of this absolute madmen?
What do you think?

>>87424761
Better ending is he elopes with a 15 year old Mexican girl and it's legal, then she has nowhere she nobody to turn to

>>87424884
>"What are you doing here???"
>Hansen completely incredulous
Gets me every time.

>>87423308
Intent isn't a crime

>>87424770
They were just pro booty

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>>87424067
>pedo
>talking to a fake 15 year old who's actually 20 something

Neck yourself, it'll do the world some good

>>87418335
99% of them freely admit to their crimes though

It shocks me how many of them immediately open up. Either Hansen is really good or pedo's are really stupid.

>>87423873
Yes. Want to see for yourself, just make A profile as a female on any dating site, you don't even have to upload a picture or add a biography and you'll get tons of sexual advances immediately. It's fucking insane

>>87425073
Soliciting sex to a minor is.

>>87425168
Most of them don't seem that smart, which is why they end up in the show in the first place I guess.

>>87424884
>Three pack of condoms
>Big afternoon planned?
>I'm gonna go home and grab a gun to kill myself
I'm dying

>>87425098
>T. WORTHLESS DIRT

>DO U HAVE ANY CONDOM
>no
>I MUST GO SHOPPING

I remember that one where Hansen was reading his chat logs and the dude thought he was talking to him.

>"Are you a virgin"
>Yes
>No, I was reading your chat log here.

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>>87425098
So you're just a wanna-be pedo?
HAHAHAHAGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WHAT A COMPLETE FAILURE

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>>87425423
when is predatorkino back on the menue bois

>>87422687
Suspected pedos get the rope.

Bullets is expensive.

You being kind of suspicious if you ask me

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>>87425344
>Would you like some water?

>>87425555
QUADS

Kill all pedo suspects.

Trial not needed.
.
Now, you know what they say about 4chan posters...

>>87425423
Fuck that reminds me of another dude, with the crazy frosted tips. The guy says something back and Hansen thinks he's making a remark or something. FUCK, tip of my tongue, anybody know what I'm talking about?

They did an interview with Chris in print and he laughed about a guy who once visited a house adjacent to the sting house to buy a car, and they trapped him with the actress waving at the random guy, thinking that was the pedo, and he couldn't go until they could prove he wasn't the pedo, while the actual pedo probably saw the action and bailed. And he just laughed about it

>>87425563
N-no

>>87425168
i've wondered about this.

there's basically two sides to the coin: stupidity and temperament. stupidity is IQ, which you're born with, and temperament is a mixture of nature and nurture. low IQ has been found as a common trait among pedophiles in general, so they're probably stupid. but i don't think it's that chris is good so much as it is that they're betas.

pedos are predatory - they prey on the weak and defenseless. that also means that they're betas. they're usually older men and raging incels. when hansen shows up, he represents a male threat - basically a chad, but essentially a stand-in for the law, or their own fathers. they deal with him the way they've probably dealt with every conflict they've had with the law, weaving a story to deflect their malicious behavior into plausible deniability. "i didn't know", "she didn't say", "i wasn't going to." try to convince him that they're not a threat, and that he should let them go.

it doesn't work. next up is to bargain. take a risk on trying to control the damage. "i won't do it again", "i've never done this before", "the police aren't involved, are they?"

basically, it's not just that they're stupid, it's that they're betas. they try to prey on the helpless, and when a threat arrives, they try to make themselves seem small so it will leave them alone.

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>>87424179
What? No way!

>>87425654
Just remembered
>Yo dawg, I don't want to be on the news, you feel me?
>We are filming.

>>87425926
Acting small is viable though

If you're gonna commit crimes, act small and get away with it

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WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?

>>87426132
HE'S GONNA TAKE YOU BACK TO THE PAST

>>87426132
Link to this?

>>87426132
>You ask her... does she do anal?
>IT"S A QUESTION!

>>87426361
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNkTtHxKU1w

>>87426396
Fucking kek his voice and his looks

I can't remember the last time I slept with a girl over 20 (college town), I'm currently 25. At what point can I be arrested? If I'm still banging 18 year olds at 28 will I get in trouble? Or does the magic number make it all good?

>defending paedos

Hope you get killed OP

>>87426796
Baby diddling is one thing, but if you want someone dead for banging a hot looking 15 year old then please get your mouth sewn shut

>>87424316
He clearly has something royally fucked up with his brain. Obviously all these pedos do, but this guy in particular is way off.

>And how old did she say she was?
>She said 18
>You wanna try again?

gets me every time

>>87426846
Wanna take a seat over here, Jeff?

WHERE ARE THE REST OF THE EPISODES JIMMY FOR FUCKS SAKE IT HAS BEEN TWO YEARS NOW
OR ONE

>>87418335
His appearrance and voice seem to be perfect to intimidate Pedos

>>87426396
The best part is when he he threatens to kill himself with a pen in the interrogation room

>>87426396
>Can i just be shot

Chris Hansen was doing God's work with that show. By far one of the funniest fucking TV shows ever.

>>87424233
It doesn't matter if you stop talking after they have you committing online solicitation of a minor. And the guy you're replying to specifically outlines a situation where that didn't happen.

Goddamn why are these threads always filled with total retards.

>>87426553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbCWUrrXPLc

>>87427656
>that voice
lel perfect, his fantasies seem to be from some Hentai lmao

>>87423928
Paranoid, much?

Not that it matters, but the group that started this stuff, "Perverted Justice", has had quite a few cases thrown out of court, not make it to court, and they've been caught editing chatlogs - or specifically initiating the online communications rather than just being cute in a chatroom.
That isn't to say that the show isn't entertaining or that the dudes don't have it coming, but still. It was never 100% on the up-and-up, no clue about how they do it now.
Also the dude who started the group is a fucking weirdo who used to post a FUCK LOAD on hooker review sites like erotic review and tnaboard. He was a regular in yahoo chatrooms (especially the oregon room) using some retarded name like "Tattooed indian guy" and legally changed his name to "Xavier Von Erck".

>>87427656
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UjWQVvlqwmc
This is Gold

>>87428118
I don't think too many people actually believe that the point of the show is some kind of social justice mission.

what the fuck happened to the fedora episode

>>87428284
You say that, but then these threads are basically nothing but people cheering about "scum getting what they deserve." They'll even pretend the show isn't pure schadenfreude.

>>87428496
I just think most people are on board with televising scumbags and watching them squirm. No need to look into it any further. Of course, there is an element of mob justice to it and that's where it becomes dangerous. There was that example with famous UK 2IC Rebekah Brooks who ran a weekly segment (or maybe monthly) naming and shaming pedophiles in various communities. It was ceased when one of the people who was "exposed" by the paper had his life completely ruined (harrassment, vandalism, job prospects eliminated) to the point where he killed himself. It was later revealed that he was innocent. I'm not sure of the exact methods used in TCAP but I can understand why levelheaded people would be a bit toey about their vigilantism given the public's opinion on child molesters.

>>87428617
>they literally go to children houses to have sex with them
>Hmmmm I'm just not sure why people hate these guys
K Y S

>>87421921
It does look staged. If it's not, that guy was one of the most brazen people on the show. And one of the funniest. Very strange to just walk in with alcohol and immediately strip your clothes off in any situation with people of any age.

>>87422565
Not an argument.

>>87425098
>talking
They went to a house where they thought they would be fucking an underage kid. How retarded are you?

This time things are going to be different. This time I like rape.

So you think its funny?

>>87428844
Imagine if a girl called you a rapist and the media got involved. Life = ruined and with no due process. I'm not saying that pedophiles are good people, they are certainly deserving of the term "Rockspiders" as they're called here in Australia. What I am trying to say is that I believe the rule of law exists for a reason and unfortunately we don't get to bend the rules because we find certain crimes particularly heinous.

>>87429235
Except the show followed the law and it wasn't based on a girl accusing anyone, they had actual evidence.

>>87429235
>a chick making a claim is the same as actually attempting to physically do something
wew lad

>>87429284
>and it wasn't based on a girl accusing anyone
It was literally them producing screen shots of chat-rooms, which even I could manipulate.

Anyway, we've deviated from my original point which was that nobody actually thinks TCAP are doing this for the good of the country, they do it because it's good /tv/.

Chris Hansen is so great because he keeps a straight face while completely fucking with people and watching them slowly come to the realization that their life is over

>>87429415
this

Chris Hansen is my waifu

>>87429371
Well, plus transcripts collected, plus video of the guy showing up, plus (generally speaking) his confession. Plus those two goals (entertainment and the good of the country) are not contradictory and most people likely think it's a bit of both.

>>87429294
>missing the point completely.
Until a decision is made in a court, all accusations are just that: accusations. I'm not pretending to know the legality of what the show is doing, but our personal distaste of a particular crimes does not allow for circumvention of law. I would probably feel very different if I had children or knew somebody who was molested.

>>87418335
Is it a crime to ask a fifteen year old to bite your taint? I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA!

>>87429429
We go over this every thread.

The crime is commited in the chat. Going to the house is not relevant to the arrest. Getting him talking is not relevant to the arrest.

They're arresting these people for saying shit on the internet. Luring them in front of cameras just for schadenfreude entertainment.

>>87429429
I don't know about America but there are very specific conditions under which admissions of guilt are accepted as evidence. Back to some other anon's point, some times these exercises can be more damaging to a case than they can be helpful.

I can't believe I got dragged into this side of the argument. I love the show, I love the memes and I hope all of the people that show up are permanently shunned from society and are forced to live in fear and ridicule for the rest of their lives. I just hope all of that happens without allowing them to continue to roam the internet and continue preying on young children.

>>87429466
>circumvention of law
How is that happening for the show?

You need to keep moving the goalposts on your bait, if you keep at the same idea it gets boring and you'll stop getting the (You)'s you so clearly want

>>87429499
>Going to the house is not relevant to the arrest. Getting him talking is not relevant to the arrest.
This is literally why the guys are arrested though.

Chris Hansen is so great because he keeps a straight face while completely fucking with people and watching them slowly come to the realization that their life is over

>>87429522
No, they're being arrested under various state online solicitation laws. The house and cameras are completely irrelevant to these crimes.

>>87429562
this

Chris Hansen is my waifu

>>87429499
>Going to the house is not relevant to the arrest. Getting him talking is not relevant to the arrest.
That's what they're being arrested for.

>>87429518
In the USA people are given the right to legal assistance, they don't have to talk to the police. But these guys do. Plus, as you can see from the show, they have the transcripts and video of the guys showing up.

>>87429577
see >>87429568

neither of you have any idea what you're talking about.

If going to the house was a crime, it'd be entrapment. They're getting around this by only prosecuting online solicitation type laws, that specifically criminalize saying shit on the internet.

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>I take it you're a virgin?
>...Yes sir
>Not you, I'm reading the conversation between you and Natascha

>>87429521
I'm not trolling senpai.

>How is that happening for the show?
Not so much saying that is what happens in the show, just trying to illustrate that the mindset you are adopting can be dangerous and harmful to innocent people. Of course these people are actively endangering kids and should be locked up, but at the expense of actual prosecution seems like more of a step backwards. IDKTBHFAM maybe the cooperation of the police implies there is actually some kind of legitimacy to what they are doing.

>>87429683
What's actually happening is a bunch of states in the US have really easy to prosecute statutes dealing with asking girls for sex over the internet. They've already committed at least one crime before they're invited to the house. Their presence at the house is relevant to their arrest only insofar as the cops don't have to drive to their house. If they find evidence of more crimes when they toss the contestant's house, they'll prosecute for those as well. But they specifically avoid attempting to prosecute any crime related to their physical presence in the decoy house.

all good shows end in tragedy. Vigilantes always get the bullet, girls especially

>>87418645
This is how I imagine the average /r9k/ poster except 100+ more pounds overweight.

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>>87425231
seriously, most dudes dont comprehend the basal attention level even the nastiest of chicks get on a daily basis, the internet/smartphones have only magnified this immensely

>>87429610
K but they only get arrested because they show up at the house. So..you might be retarded

>>87430081
>they only get arrested because they show up at the house

Fundamentally wrong on every level

>>87429774
I don't think they get to raid the predators house just because he showed up to see the decoy. I wonder what the precedents are for whatever crime they are committing. Do you think they would get years in jail? Would they even go to jail?

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Imagine falling for this

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>>87423838
>some hot 14 year (old)

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>>87422565

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>>87430216
>my mommy and my daddy

>>87423308
age of consent is social construct
prove me wrong

>>87423616
cringe

>>>/r/eddit

>>87425387
>T. HYPOCRITICAL REDDITOR

>>87429577
>In the USA people are given the right to legal assistance, they don't have to talk to the police. But these guys do.
Will that count towards serious sentencing or are the police sending the predators back into the world after a quick slap on the wrist?

>>87430436
You're not wrong, you're just a pedophile.

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>talldreamydoc
>honey I need you to come help me
>I'm in a LOT of trouble
>n-no don't bring the girls

mitford avignon

I'm just on my way to the beach.

>>87422860
I'm just bein honest sir

For sex I am not coming.
For sex, you are not coming?

>>87430160
Incorrect to every degree

>>87418645
Why would they have him turn up naked? That's just being assholes.

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>>87422860
anymore of these? I watched the entire thing.

Good thing i've too shy to ever act on my pedo instincts.

>Guilty Until Proven Innocent

That's how the police and such work. Innocent until proved guilty is more a court thing.

Don't women sexually mature before men? Doesn't biology dictate that the female should be younger?
How young is too young? Where's the line, /tv/?

>>87431545
21

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>>87431545
>Doesn't biology dictate that the female should be younger?
Yes.
>How young is too young?
Below 15.
>Where's the line
The line is the law.

>>87431583
Really? You think we should prohibit people from having kids even if they're 20 years old?

>>87431545
>Where's the line, /tv/?

Menstruation.

>>87430222
>Chris, no

>>87431699
Yeah, children shouldnt have sex.

>>87432182
But 20 year olds aren't children.
20 year olds are perfectly capable of keeping a job, moving out, getting married and having children. You're institutionalising the adultbaby epidemic by telling grown men and women that they're children.

>>87432458
None of those things are what defines an "adult" though.

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>I'M UNDER WHAT!
> A SUCCULENT CHINESE TWINK
>GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY PENIS HANSEN

>>87432614
Go ahead then, make a distinction

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Daily reminder he beat them.

>>87432660
There were other cases where PJ wouldn't hand over the hard drives showing the chatlogs, and at least one other where it was shown to have potentially been altered.

>>87432640
What country are you from?

>>87432721

I'm pretty sure that if the predators stayed silent when first arrested and hired a decent attorney HvP would have a successful conviction rate of below 30%.

Can you imagine the job the online staff of to catch a predator have?
>Entire job is to bait pedos into meeting up
>Inevitably this means cybering with them and getting them to want to fuck you so badly they come in person to see you
>A shit load of these pedos will be smart and just use you strictly to have cyber sex and keep telling you they'll come visit soon while you make them cum daily
>You literally have to be jerk off material to pedos for your job, and in the end you only get a very tiny percentage of the guys you make cum arrested
Wonder how these cucks feel

>>87432730
You can't just say "whatever the law says"

>>87432808

Also reminder that they do it for free.

>>87431545
>How young is too young? Where's the line, /tv/?
Well if we go by our own biology as soon as the female goes through puberty and wants to have sex with males.

Consciousness is kinda weird when you think about it.

>>87426396
Average ancap.

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>>87426396
tfw 15 is legal here

>>87432813
Answer the question.

>>87427656
He looks jewish.

>>87432912
Australia, age of consent is 16

>>87432884
15 is the superior age of consent line.

13-14 is a bit too creepy, 16 is a bit too much, 17-18 is just absurd.

>>87432926
QLD or NSW?

I am a lawyer (mostly trade and civil law) and back in Law University I had to take mandatory practice courses at court so I choose penal/criminal for shit and giggles which gave me access to all court processings as a observer.

There was this one pedo case where man brutally raped 7 years old boy. I was 21-22 then and it fucked me up to hear testimonies and just facing horrible reality.
I never, ever saw so much hate in one room in my entire life.
You could tell whole room wanted him dead and I decided that I never want to deal with this shit so I went civil.

I really hope there will be new law for pedophiles to give mandatory castration and death penalty in worst cases.

>>87432935
8 would be appropriate.

>>87432946
VIC

Do you guys ever think "transageism" is gonna become a thing?

Where we start to be forced to accept that people who are 30 are actually 10 and so on.
Men can now call themselves women if they want to, why can't pedos call themselves 5 year olds? Fucking bigoted shitlords!

I always fantasied about trolling or otherwise fucking with 'To Catch a Predator'.
It was just something I wish I could have done.

Not because I think what they do is wrong or because I have sympathy for pedos. No, fuck those cunts.
I just wish I could have fucked with them for shits and giggles.

Like find their decoy, do the whole chat thing and get details for a meet, then hire a tutor and give them the decoys details (name, address, basic description) and tell said tutor that I'm the girls father and she's having problems with maths or something and send them around.

Or find a 14 year old boy who's up for some trolling, then after chatting with the decoy and telling her that "I'm 19/20 years old" and arranging to meet, send the kid in, complete with legit id that show's he's only 14. Have him trained up so that when Chris appears and starts grilling him, he'll break down crying and saying that he's only 14 but he said he was older because his brother said girls like guys that are older and all his friends are teasing him about being a virgin or some shit.

>>87432968
In this context (a discussion on the intersection of sexuality and maturity) an adult would be considered somebody of the age of 16, provided they are:
Within 2 years of your age and consenting, or;
Married to you

Otherwise they are not considered an adult. Is there another scenario you would like me to clarify for you?

>>87433108
You do realize they know everything about the suspect before he arrives, right?

They started working with police early on and they got access to data through IP.

Hansen even talks in one behind the scenes episode how surprised he was that they literally just post this shit from their homes without any proxy/VPN.

>>87433129
That's literally just a policy. This is like saying that weed is bad for you because it's illegal. And I don't know if you're the original guy who said that the age of consent should be 21, but if you are you're contradicting yourself

>>87433159
Wait, how is that legal?

>>87421921
Lel ofc is staged its a tv show nigga

the way they bate them into chat conversation cant hold into court and any decent lawyer will beat it.

>>87432829
Do they really? Is there any proof of this?

>>87433159
Like I said, it's a fantasy.
Like when I fantasize about winning a billion dollars or finding a magic piece of jewelry that will grant me unlimited wishes.
It's something fun to not think to deeply about on long drives and shit.

>>87433199
>This is like saying that weed is bad for you because it's illegal.
1. Weed is bad for you, but I don't believe the government should hold power over what adults put into their body
2. That is a fucking stupid comparison to make

With consent laws it is better to err on the side of caution, can you think of why? It is a form of protection to keep school children away from pedophiles like you who can't find women their own age and rely on manipulating stupid schoolgirls into thinking they're cool.

>>87433228
how much money would you have to be paid to go on national tv as a peado though?

>>87430436
Consent is a clear legal and moral concept
The age is dependant on society though
And there's a lot of hypocrisy in the USA when you have marriage legal for 12 year olds which is used to protect rapists in evangelical churches

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>>87432458
>20 year olds arent children

>>87432829

Of course they do who is going to fucking pay them the police? All of these vigilante groups do it for free and usually do more harm than good because they either hound innocent people to suicide or they completely fuck up chain of evidence etc that even your 1st year law student would get the case thrown out of court.

>>87433672

Was meant to respond to

>>87433286

>>87433359
>1. Weed is bad for you, but I don't believe the government should hold power over what adults put into their body
I agree
>2. That is a fucking stupid comparison to make
But it's exactly what you did. You quoted a government policy to prove that it's a correct policy. That's circular reasoning. I still don't understand why you would use it as an argument since this entire discussion has been about 21 as an age of consent

>With consent laws it is better to err on the side of caution, can you think of why? It is a form of protection to keep school children away from pedophiles like you who can't find women their own age and rely on manipulating stupid schoolgirls into thinking they're cool.
20 years olds aren't school children. You have no argument.

>>87433641
Yeah they're children, in the 21st century. People used to grow up and get married when they were 20. What right does the government have to decide that consenting couples aren't allowed to do that?

>>87432660
fucking reptilian eye monster

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>>87433709
>What right does the government have to decide that consenting couples aren't allowed to do that?

Because since people have become a cesspool of retarded inbreds as a whole -with rampant mental and physical illness- the only hope forward is an authoritarian dictatorship that purges the unclean.

>>87433680
I would imagine the show pays them, obviously Chris himself didn't do the show for free

>>87433709
>But it's exactly what you did.
No it's not, you provided me with a scenario and I gave you the definition of adult in that situation. It's not circular reasoning, laws are based on the general consensus of society. My position is this: There are various definitions for adulthood dependent on the activity in question as defined by law in the first instance, and culture secondarily. What exactly are you trying to say?

>>87433869

Chris is the presentor that's completely different.

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>>87418335
https://youtu.be/nuX6kgww1Is?t=1h36m30s

>When youre busted for being a degenerate pedo and know cameras are watching so you pretend you are asleep and not shitting your pants because you're going to jail

>>87433914
But you could argue without the online team luring in the pedos there would be no show. I'm not saying they make anywhere near as much as Chris, but I'm sure they get paid something

>>87433887
>No it's not, you provided me with a scenario and I gave you the definition of adult in that situation. It's not circular reasoning, laws are based on the general consensus of society.
You did it again. Opinions aren't true just because 51% of people say that they're true. And for the last time, the age of consent in my country is not 21. It's 16. So why are you even using this argument? The "consensus of society" disagrees with you.

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>>87434036
>And for the last time, the age of consent in my country is not 21. It's 16. So why are you even using this argument? The "consensus of society" disagrees with you.

>The "concensus of society" is judged by a bunch of convicts exiled to an island with animals that all want to kill you and fucking abbos

My sides, holy shit

>>87418645
is this this was star citizen is coming along so slowly?

>>87434036
>Opinions
I'm not talking about opinions, why are you bringing that up.
>And for the last time, the age of consent in my country is not 21. It's 16
I addressed that earlier.
>The "consensus of society" disagrees with you
That is just a terrible use of language.

I'm still unclear as to what you are trying tell me.

>>87426396
Knew I was going to lol from the thumbnail alone

>>87434027

They are volunteers.

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>>87434233
>you will never get to lure pedo faggots into death traps and ruin their lives for free
>ywn get to jerk off to the thought of pedos hanging themselves as you pretend to be a 12 yr old girl

ITS NOT FAIR

>>87434233
Give some proof of that

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>>87418645

>>87434166
>I'm not talking about opinions, why are you bringing that up.
You said that laws are correct because they are based on the general consensus of society. The consensus of society is simply what society believes. Society can be wrong. If society believes that marijuana users should be thrown in prison, and a law is passed to enforce that, it would still be wrong.
>I addressed that earlier.
Where? Are you following the same thread as me? This is the original post I made >>87431699
My contention is that 20 year olds should be allowed to have sex. You quoted a policy in my country that says 20 years olds ARE allowed to have sex.
>That is just a terrible use of language.
>I'm still unclear as to what you are trying tell me.
I'm trying to tell you that the government shouldn't dictate the reproduction of consenting adults. At 20 you could have a qualification, a car, an apartment and a wife. Easily. There is literally nothing wrong with having a child in that situation. There is literally everything wrong with the government using force to interfere with that.

muricans are really weird about sex

>>87434481
>Society can be wrong.
That doesn't make sense. Society is a collection of like-minded people working in unison, not necessarily towards anything, but certainly harmoniously.
>If society believes that marijuana users should be thrown in prison, and a law is passed to enforce that, it would still be wrong
I still don't know why you are continuing with the cannabis narrative and why you presume to know better than most people.
>My contention is that 20 year olds should be allowed to have sex.
I disagree. As there are more people in America than there are in Victoria, Australia, your entire countries beliefs are rendered invalid. That's why you're on a god-forsaken island with the most deadly fauna in the world. Enjoy your death sentence prison-state faggot, don't get boxed by a kangaroo on your way to work tomorrow.

>>87434633
You're unironically fucking retarded if you assume that most people understand shit about literally anything. 25% of Americans think Sun revolves around Earth.

kys

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>tfw no decoy gf to ageplay with

>>87434789
Are you seriously saying that your own opinion is the only true barometer of what should be considered correct or not? I came here to have a discussion and you have fallen into super genius misunderstood machiavellian LARPING.

>>87418335
>Guilty Until Proven Innocent
Soliciting sex to minor is a felony.
catching someone in the act of committing a crime
you do realize part of the FBI's job is setting up honeypot for just this.very thing.

>>87435089
>americans unironically think sun revolving around earth is a matter of opinion

>>87423684
They have a profile that says 12 year old girl and just wait. Then when a guy starts talking to them thay say "o rly" and "lol idk" 100 times untill the guy invites himself over to their house and gets Hansoned

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>>87434160

>>87435177
What a great use of money to lure in and put into prison literal retards who would never get past the chatting part with a real person.

Who wants health care when you can spend the money on that?

>>87418335
>Pedophile Degenerate Apologism: The Thread
All pedos should be summarily shot.

>>87422565

t. closet pedo

>>87435129
Nice argument there, mate.

>>87424884

All that sweet Long Beach College pussy running around and you go for a 13 year old girl? Literally a WTF moment.

>>87435778
They're all worn out sluts

>>87425098

t. closet pedo

>Kickstarter Scam: The Prequel

>>87435089
Do you seriously believe that majority opinion = truth? What if there's an issue where you disagree with the majority?

>>87436203
>this what Dicklet pedophiles think
Thanks to the Show er know how you failures look hahah

>>87436433
>opinion = truth
Nowhere have I stated that, you are drawing false equivalencies to support your argument because you are unable to refute any of my major points. I have demonstrated why you are wrong and why you should be cast out of the village onto your britches but it's obvious you aren't interested in a real dialogue. Do you dance around the core issues of conversation so violently in real life? I suppose you don't have real need to hold discussion if you're only hanging out with high school students, you can just keep trundling out your tired old analysis of 1984 you read on a /lit/ meme-macro image and failed to comprehend the snarky tone.

>>87433228
>bate
Look at this. This is what we have to deal with in 2017.

>>87433602
what if the child consents tho

>>87436768
kys

>>87436564
Seriously? You literally said "I disagree. As there are more people in America than there are in Victoria, Australia, your entire countries beliefs are rendered invalid. That's why you're on a god-forsaken island with the most deadly fauna in the world. Enjoy your death sentence prison-state faggot, don't get boxed by a kangaroo on your way to work tomorrow."
And you're saying I'm unable to refute your major points? You didn't even answer my question: what if there's an issue where you disagree with the majority?

You're really confusing me. You said "there are various definitions for adulthood dependent on the activity in question as defined by law". You quoted the law of my country (Australia) which states that the age of consent is 16. So what's wrong with having children at 20?

>>87433709
>People used to grow up and get married when they were 20. What right does the government have to decide that consenting couples aren't allowed to do that?

We stopped being dumb white trash who get married and settle too early in life.

>>87436874
Honestly this, marriage as an entire concept has become less popular in general. Proof of a secular society etc etc

>>87424179
no

only if it's sexual

>>87436826
>You're really confusing me.
I can tell. Don't bother replying to me again.

>>87437133
>no argument

yawn, another TCAP thread where people post the same dudes over and over and there's the same entrapment argument over and over and over again

i fucking hate this place

Pretty sure if you're "baited" by someone who says their 12 a court isn't going to think twice about sending your ass to prison. The funny thing about the "law" is that in a courtroom a jury can strait up ignore that shit.

>>87437168
>my feelings hurt :(

>>87425555
Idi Amin? Is that you?

>>87431403
post more and I'll post more

>>87423838
but the decoys are literally not underaged, how can anything done to them be illegal?
what if someone tries to seduce a legal girl because she looks younger than her age and he mistook her for being 15 or 16, is this illegal because he wanted to commit what he believed was a crime? is this like murder where as long as you make the attempt it counts as a crime even if you fail

>>87435028
These decoys are so fucking unconvincing, looks like she's 25+

>>87430216
>having to ask the decoy to show ID
>"Sorry, my mom keeps it in her purse."
???

>>87438368
>>87430216
Honestly, the new TCAP is fucking entrapment. One guy just wanted someone to hang out with and started chatting with a decoy that claimed to be 18, only for the decoy to later tell him that they were actually 15-- then the decoy fucking begged the guy to just hang out. No sexual stuff was ever said, guy still got arrested.

Another guy was a marine that talked about visiting the decoy but later said it was wrong and wanted to cut it off before meeting. Still got party vanned.

Then there's the guy who fell for the """"13 year old"""". Clearly just wanted someone to hang with but got fucked over because Hansen is getting bled dry by his wife and needs more reality TV money.

What a fucking joke.

>>87438480
the format doesn't work anymore

What happens if a minor shows up? Has that ever happened? Can a 15 year old really get arrested for showing up to fuck another 15 year old (that is actually like 30 years old?)

>>87438556
Clearly. Hell, there's like 20 separate times on the show where someone came up to the house and got the fuck out of there instantly because they knew Hansen/got spooked.

>>87438480
Why did the first guy get arrested?

>>87438697
No idea. He didn't even fucking go inside, he drive up to the house, saw that the decoy was actually underaged and wasn't lying about not being 18, and left. They still arrested him.

>>87438577
I remember that time they arrested the wrong guy. Some dude was buying a car next door and they thought he was the pedo and the actual pedo was able to get away

>>87438480
Triggered pedophile detected

>>87438749
The decoy was so bad that they had nothing to go on. I'm confused. I mean the guy seems pathetic but he sure as hell wasn't a pedo

>>87436804
No u

>>87438763
Bullshit it's impossible to fuck up that badly

>>87438763
Yeah, and another time some friends of the people they rented the house from showed up to look around because apparently it was being sold after NBC used it.

>>87438770
>if you don't think people being arrested solely for tv ratings and not wrongdoing is bad then you're a pedophile
Hello R.eddit!

>>87438806
With a lot of these they get really weak sentences. Stuff like suspended sentence-- it basically means they won't serve jailtime, but they have to be a good goyim and not commit any more crimes or skip town for a period of time. If they fuck up again though they get the full sentence.

What happens to minors who chat with the decoy? Technically the decoy would be the pedo in that situation

>>87438577
What are some new ideas for being more convincing given the current climate of tech-savvy creepers? I think I read that some organisation (might have been PJ) had a 3d model of a child to be used in video logs. Maybe get the guys from the dark web posing as a pimp for underage prostitutes. Act all shady and get them to deposit crypto currency and meet at a sketchy location instead of just having neckbeards behind a computer trying to type like 14 year old's.

Imagine fucking an underage girl haha just for laughs haha

>>87438889
This shit is staged.

>>87438859
They must have sued for a lot of money

>>87438039
I'm pretty sure attempted murder is literally a crime. Just because you're too beta to succeed at breaking the law doesn't mean you don't suffer consequences for the attempt

>>87438859
Enough Pedos get caught so I am fine and even those who don't get a proper sentence will never have a normal life again.

So theoretically if they had the "pedo" talk with a 17 year old they could do the same whole song and dance still?

>>87438889
decoys don't initiate sexual discussion, they just react with gems like "oh jeez" and "ben and jerrys funky monky?"

>>87438889
>>87438577
Law enforcement works closely with the show. They have the guy ID'd and everything before inviting him over. That's how they can still have him arrested even if he decides to chicken out from the "date".

These take months of work now. Information is slowly bled out of the guy and they aren't making a move until they've got intent and a name. With his name comes police databases of past crimes, any mugshots-- you get the idea. They don't go blind on these and scratch their heads, perplexed, if some "chris hansen fan" or underage kid shows up, because if someone is at the house with the decoy they're already way past fucked.

>>87422016
haha!

>>87438039
intent is the word they use. if they can prove intent, you're fucked. intent is very difficult to prove though, given how it's a mindset and not something hard like a pedo's cock at a playground. unless i guess someone saw your boner, then you're pretty well done in.

>>87438039
It's no different than trying to buy fake drugs or trying to hire a hitman that doesn't exist.

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>>87439073
>something hard like a pedo's cock at a playground

>>87439053
That's bullshit since they fuck up lots of times and arrest innocent people instead of the actual guy

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>>87418335
how's everybody's horny level doing?

>>87439135
Back in 2003 when all they could squeeze out of the guy is a blurry picture of his junk over dial-up, maybe.
Not anymore.

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Does the decoy look like this?

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>>87439137

>>87439212
CASH ME OUSSIDE

>>87439212
post
the
webm

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>>87439212
I know it's illegal but damn

>>87439188
And that's why the show isn't fun anymore. Most of the targets notice something and leave which sucks since the confrontation at the house is the best part

>>87424179
two words

role-playing chatroom

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>>87424179

WHAT THE FUCK?
I googled that image, she is fucking 12. Born in 2005, posing like that, what the fuck. What's wrong with her parents

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>>87439534
Why did you really google that image?

>>87430436
Language is a social construct, guess we should get rid of it too

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>>87426064

The frosted tips guy is Ryan Gossling

>YYEEEAH

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>>87422860
>he thought a hot young girl was going to let his shaky retarded hands shave her pussy

>>87423591
One of the guys on Hansen v Predator didn't say anything sexual in his chats and still got charged with 'intent to injure a minor' or some kind of bullshit.

>>87422860
>Are you gonna make me read the chat again?
>No sir, I understand and I'm just bein hone-
>WHERE DO YOU WANT MY SPERM FIRST: MOUTH, PUSSY OR ASS

>>87438952
Pretty sure they've caused someone to kill themselves

>>87439765
Why the fuck did he show up to their house then?

it annoys me how retarded these guys are, to the point where they ruin their lives. fucking SHUT UP when you realize it's a sting, and TALK TO YOUR LAWYER.

doesn't it ring a bell when there are cameras everywhere, and that you haven't actually done anything that bad? they're victimless crimes, maybe a few months in jail and some social program to cope with your lust for children. i bet every single one of the guys that got off did this.

>>87439765
>>87439834
He didn't say anything overtly sexual but was still talking about meeting up with the 14 year old kid to smoke weed and enjoy each other's company.

>>87439877
Or they could just not be pedo scum?

>>87439936
Sure sounds totally innocent

>>87439936
What a moron

>>87439877
Pedophiles will never stop, because they are Betas who prey on the weakest they can find

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>>87439613

Because I wanted to know how old she was. I thought she was just younger looking, who the fuck would let their 12 years old daughter pose like that?

>pic is one of the decoy they used

>>87439765
Being charged isn't the same as being declared guilty

Remember that retard who pretended he was underage and thought he would get away

>>87439948
Yeah, that's a great course of action for someone who already got caught.

>>87440008
He plead guilty
https://crimewatchdaily.com/2016/10/06/hansen-vs-predator-math-tutor-busted-discussing-drugs-with-underage-teen/

>>87440052
>be a pedo
>get caught
>oh no, muh life is over
Just don't be a pedo in the first place faggot

>>87425423
>"Do you like getting fucked in the ass you little bitch?"
>No
> "No, I was just reading the transcript"

>>87440146
Reading comprehension, retard.
The guy you replied to is talking about their braindead handling of the situation once they get caught, which could be mitigated if they weren't autistic.

This goes for anything, pedos or not.

Thank You. Your tip has been submitted.

>>87424884
>and your OTHER condoms