>this is the capital of one of the two great kingdoms of men

>What is the house of Eorl but a thatched barn where brigands drink in the reek, and their brats roll on the floor among the dogs!
Saruman did nothing wrong

>>87403446
Always thought this was weird.
If the Rohirrim were a bunch of low-tech, low-culture goatfuckers, why was it hard for Saruman to subjugate them?

>>87403688
because they're warhorse fuckers, not goat fuckers.

>>87403446
they do nothing but horse around, why wouldn't their whole nation be made of stables?

bit bigger than that

>>87403446
whiterun?

>>87403446
It's feudal. The capital is wherever the king is. If he wishes to fuck off to some backwater town, great for him

rohan's people live in farmsteads all over the place

urbanization was a mistake

They all sleep together in the longhouse like degenerate cumskin """vikings"""

>>87403810
Never should of come here!

>>87403446
>ITT
>OP doesnt understand that they have several settlements and are nomadic

>>87403446
Grìma dindun nuffin

>>87403446
Fucking nazeem

>>87403446
Not every nation needs a big city, that's a relatively modern view. Middle age British kingdoms were barely more than fields and forests and so didn't need massive seats of power, just a formidable army to keep the peasants in line.

>>87403861
>should of

>>87403446

They are nomadic. They move around a lot and have no needs for huge, walled permanent settlements.

And when they do, they fuck off to Helm's Deep.

>>87403877
>>87403446

The Rohirrim are not nomadic so much as they are rural. Would you call a Cowboy rancher a nomad? No. He has a farm, but he herds his cattle over wide swathes of land.

The Rohirrim are everything Anglo-Saxon, except they have knightly combat, like the Normans. The society is very rural and dispersed, and messengers must be sent around to collect men for fighting -- just as was done in Anglo-Saxon England. The Saxon kingdoms did not have a standing army. The fyrds were made up of men conscripted from the countryside. It just so happens that the Rohirrim all come with their own horses and arms/armor.

This is also something inspired from undeniably English identity -- the demand that all Englishmen be armed and trained in the sword & bow (which eventually inspires the American Second Amendment) because medieval English armies were not only made up of knights, but lowborn serjeants and longbowmen.

The only "Standing Army" of an Anglo-Saxon king would be his Housecarls -- an English version of the German Comitatus. Men with the best arms and armor who protect the king and live at his generosity. These are men like Hama and Gamling -- the well-armored royal guards which live in and around the Meduseld in Edoras.

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>>87403446
Their capital was so small because they didn't have a proper tax policy

>>87404071
They actually have a lot of walled, permanent settlements. They're just not very big because the Rohirrim are a ranching people. Most of them live on farms.

>>87403446
capitals weren't such a big deal in the past, they could be fairly small but happen to be the seat of power.

Yes, but what was the Rohirrim's tax policy like?

>>87403446
The Rohirrim were pastoralists, they didn't have big urban centres. It used to be that Arnor was the other great kingdom of men, but it got shithoused in various wars. Rohan was just an outpost of Gondor initially

>>87404081
If you read Tolkien's Appendicies he actually bases the culture and language of Rohan on the Goths. But yeah, there are a lot of similarities with Anglo-Saxon culture as well

>>87403446
no problem actually
helm's cuck is much bigger
remember, canberra is smaller than sydney, too

>>87403810
Do you get to the Cloud District very often? Oh, what am I saying? Of course you don't. I'll have you know there's no pusyyyyyyyy~

>>87404269
You're mistaken. He bases it on Old English. Their language is simply Old English. Edoras means "walled/enclosures" in Old English.

>>87404071
You're forgetting Aldburg, Snowbourne, Dunharrow, Helm's Deep...

It really annoys me that rohan is so cool otherwise but they all live in shitholes. Their aesthetic is so pleasing and we get tiny villages. Helm's Deep is also a old worn piece of shit as I understand it but still really cool.

>>87403688
Because they're still descended from houses of the Edain from the first age. They were never elevated to numenor tier status, but they have been mostly free of morgoth and sauron's machinations until they were gifted the lands of rohan because gondor didn't have the manpower to defend them.

>>87404171
bout tree fiddy

>>87404447
Look at Wessex in the 700s/800s. It wasn't much different. This is what Anglo-Saxon England was like.

If you take a step back and look at Middle-Earth through the lens of an English Mythology, a lot of it becomes easy to map onto history (this is not to say they're analogies). The Shire is the idealized England of Tolkien's youth. Pastoral, but not rural, with townships and farmers and beer and merry-making. Rohan is Anglo-Saxon England. Gondor is a quasi-Arthurian (the Return of the King, anybody?) country created by the descendants of Atlanteans.

Elves and Dwarves and Orcs are creatures out of the Scandinavian/Germanic mythologies of England.

>>87403751
Kek

>>87403446
would you prefer a bunch of fake looking CG houses in the background? one of the last times a practical set was ever used in film and you bitch about it

Which women have harrier vagoos, women of Rohan or women of Gondor?

>>87404768
Do you really have to ask...?

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>>87404662
It also helps when OP only takes a picture of the top of the city...>>87403446

>>87403446

>mfw plebs don't know LOTR is basically post-apocalyptic

Sauron had practically won by the time of the War of the Ring.

>>87404438
I LIKE YOUR ASS.

Skyrim sized

>>87404906
No he hadn't.

The entire Kingdom of Gondor stood... and was actually resurgent. Osgiliath, formerly the capital of Gondor, had been retaken by Boromir. Ithilien was once again colonized by Gondorians (like Faramir's Rangers). Rohan was essentially in peace.

Sauron's gains in the Second Era had been great, but not insurmountable. The greatest collapse prior to LOTR is the fall of Arnor, which happened slowly, over time, and during Sauron's period of hiding, almost entirely at the hands of the Witch King. Even so, Glorfindel and the armies of Gondor BTFO the Witch King.

>>87404048
That's the meme, newfag.

>>87403446

>rural society
>has small urban centres

wow

>>87404906
This. Outside of the comfy little Hobbit story the once powerful empire of men has been crumbling for decades. Go for has been without a king for a long time and is struggling to hold it's own against Mordor. It's actually explained a bit in Fellowship between Bilbo's party and when Gandalf returns - that whole series of scenes seems like a few days but it's actually several months.

Middle Earth has been fucked for a long time, which is why the elves are fucking off to their homeland. Everyone sees Mordor's domination over the continent as an inevitability. And even if they stop Sauron, Men will kill themselves off in civil war anyway.

>>87405190
at this point correcting the meme is part of the meme

>>87405219
Gondor was in ascendance at the beginning of LotR. Boromir had just taken Osgiliath and Ithilien from the enemy and pushed back the Orcs. It had been without a king... and getting along just fine. Hence, Boromir:

"Gondor has no king. Gondor needs no king."

>>87403446
Jackson explained this in the appendices, he basically didn't have the budget to build Edoras, because the location was way out in the middle of nowhere and on protected land. So what you see in OPs image is basically all they built, concentrating on making the King's hall and the stables as lavish as possible to reflect the culture, the rest of the "city" was cgi.

>>87404438
what the fuck was his problem?

>>87404081
tfw Tolkien, being a massive Anglo-Saxaboo created the Rohirrim as a version of the Anglo-Saxons that could have beaten the Normans thanks to the addition of a cavalry tradition

>>87405290
Too bad for him that he's in a fucking Tolkien story then, where a good king sitting on the throne means prosperity for the realm

>>87403845
>urbanization was a mistake

Spotted the barbarian.

>>87405368
Yes, exactly.

You say that like being an Anglo-Saxoboo is bad.

>>87405394
>spotted the decadent liberal urbanite

BLOOD AND SOIL

>>87405247
:^)

>>87405394
Conan and R.E. Howard want to have a word with you.

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>>87405416
>You say that like being an Anglo-Saxoboo is bad.

Oh I don't see it as a bad thing

>>87404438

The Jarl's going to destroy that.

Do you think they could have pulled off Eowyn disguising as Dernhelm? I'm assuming every single viewer would immediately have seen through the deception and in that case it's definitely better to have her immediately reveal herself to Merry

>>87403845
true

>>87405551
Kinda weird for some random Rohirrim to put the hobbit in his lap and ride to war, anyway. Probably would think he's some kinda pedo.

>>87404854
DELET

>>87404918
YOU'RE LYING MORGAN!

>>87403446
They are nomads

>>87405387
most of the stewards were adequate rulers IIRC

>>87403446
If my memory serves correctly there are a bunch of houses lower down the hill. Also this looks to me like the unedited shot of just the physical set, to which they added more CG buildings.
Still a bunch of straw huts but cmon what are you gonna do when you live on the plains and the nearest forest is haunted

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>2000 good men riding north

>>87405961
he found more

>>87405956
>cg in the back

theres not

>>87403446
You cropped out the rest.

>>87405368
The Normans would have been beaten if the Anglos didn't fall for the fake retreat like a bunch of retards.

Erkenbrand was a cool guy.

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>>87404081

This is a good post.

>>87405387
Denethor blows boromir the fuck out saying that even if gondor had to wait 10,000 years it would still be too soon for them to claim the throne.

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>>87405394
Fuck off, degenerate slave of the machine-market. Don't you have sacred values to betray to Moloch?

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>>87404081
What business does a quality contributor have in /tv/?

>>87403688
If the Germans were a bunch of low-tech, low-culture horsefuckers, why was it hard for the Romans to subjugate them?

>>87409299

Quick Google found this:

http://www.ssqq.com/travel/rhine2015germanhistory01.htm

>>87410030
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question

>>87403446
Those horse fuckers also chosed the shittiest location on the zone. I don't see any water source or a singe tree.

>>87403446
Is this Skyrim with mods?

>>87409167
>>87408388
Just chillin' and responding in all of the LotR threads.

>>87406896
being knackered from fucking up viking scum didn't help either