CBS breathing a sigh of relief

>implying captain brian griffin could've ever carried a live action show

>Seth MacFarlane doing anything of note ever

>>87394003
is this the writers opinion or is it based on some sort of viewership numbers.

>>87394003
>making Fox to pay for your own Star Trek fanfiction
he already won

>>87394198

>sci-fi show on FOX

It'll be a miracle if it makes til the end of the season.

Jesus christ what a mouthful of trash, that is probably one of the most horribly written paragraphs I've ever read.

>>87394198
>viewership numbers.
>premiers on Sunday
hmmmmm

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>>87394003
>when the dust settles

I HATE HER WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY CARPET

>>87394003
>chief tv critic

of what magazine/network? or did she just give that title to herself?

>>87394003

This looks interesting and will watch this. It's definitely much better than that chick show STD. I would not be surprised if a girl "critic" will not like this show since it's probably not a chick show like STD.

>>87394442
>of what magazine
variety
http://variety.com/author/maureen-ryan/

>>87394003
>Everybody starts treating Seth like a god thanks to Family Guy gaining traction due to Cartoon Network.
>M. Night his ass and let him do everything.
>Turns out he is not a golden child.
Watch his shows back to back, they reuse the same jokes over and over.

He should have just made ST:TAS but a comedy. im sure shatner would do it

>>87394442

Maureen Ryan is probably the most well known and respected tv critic.

>>87394548
Sepinwall?

>>87394480
>the new Trek show is abbreviated "STD"
How'd that make it past the marketing department?

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>>87394494
>>87394548
>magazines
>in 2017

>>87394494

Variety is a woman's magazine like Cosmo?

>>87394548

I don't pay attention to critics because they're just people who, like everyone else, have different tastes in shows but the difference is they state publicly their opinions. I prefer to watch trailers to see if a show is to my liking or not.

>>87394665
>Variety is a woman's magazine like Cosmo?
idk, anon asked what magazine she worked for as tv critic, and google supplied the title

>>87394639

a lot of people not just in marketing department could have spotted and stopped that like the producers and network executives. makes me wonder if people were working full-time on STD or if they were all working on other projects and working on STD for an hour each week.

>>87394003
He said it was more Star Trek than Family Goy so no doubt it's a bad version of both.

>>87394769
it's so obvious that it has to be intentional, right?
the other option is that STD has fallen out of favor, and STI "sexually transmitted infection" is modern medical parlance and this provided an excuse
maybe both

>>87394826

that could be true. a lot of kids these days are so limited/narrow in what they know of the world that they probably don't know STD and only know STI or they don't know both abbreviations and use clamydia as generic term for all STDs. but i doubt that everyone involved in STD are kids so someone would have noticed it. my guess is that everyone is so busy and rushed that they did not have time to think about it.

a more likely scenario just occurred to me. maybe someone very powerful in the network who screams at anyone disagreeing with him loudly expressed his preference for Star Trek Discovery name for show and everyone else are too scared to point out it's STD.

The trailer had me genuinely interested in checking it out until the inclusion of the ex-wife character.
It's one of the shittest tropes of tv.

>>87395319
at least she's hot

"CBS All-Access: It's the only way to catch STD"

>>87394654
lmao cant afford a magazine

>>87394639
It's not.

No Star Trek show has abbrivated "Star Trek" in the name. Its not STDS9 it's not STTNG it's TNG, DS9, VOY.

Star Trek Discovery is abbreviated as DISCO.

>that it exists so that creator and star Seth MacFarlane can do elaborate "Star Trek" cosplay

Is it wrong that I get an urge to support something just to piss off these worthless "critics"?

>>87395571
>Is it wrong
if it means supporting shit mcfarlane: yes.

>>87395559
>DISCO

you made me laugh so loud my neighbor's cat farted in fright

>>87394665
>Variety is a woman's magazine like Cosmo?
You gotta be fucking kidding me.

>>87395559
Except CBS promoted it as "STD"

>>87395571
We all want it to be better than Discovery so that CBS will quit the prequel bullshit and give us a real new Star Trek show, without mismatched tech, continuity-mangling make-up or synergy squandering. Maybe even put it on TV instead of hiding it on a Johnny Come Lately own-brand streaming leper colony.

>>87395621
“Star Trek Discovery” will also have robots and many aliens, and possibly even alien-human sex, since CBS All Access won’t fall under the network’s Standards and Practices rules. “Why do you think we call it STD?” Fuller joked.
http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/television/gail-pennington/star-trek-marks-start-of-new-mission-for-cbs/article_20a11103-a507-5fe2-a8a5-9f70aa465b86.html

KEK

>>87395694
At least they're self-aware. I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse, though.

>>87394003
THAT WENT SOUTH SO FAST

87395614
>does not know answer but posts reply anyway fishing for (You)s

attention whore detected

>>87395659
lol I don't trust CBS with anything star trek that isn't syndication and then handing over full creative control to Ira Steven Behr

But we all know that's not going to happen in this day and age so what's the point in trying, I just want them to leave Star Trek alone now

>>87395559
I laugh. I may have also farted when some autist next door laughed too.
Meow.

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>>87395866

hi there, neighbor kitteh

>66
>kitteh

i knew it! i knew cats are satan junior!

>>87395844
DS9 was the start of the problems, as it seemed to think Trek should be more Babylon 5ey. It was mostly a cure for insomnia.

>>87395694
>alien-human sex
This again? It's like all the worst ideas that cropped up during Enterprise have been taken as a template.

>>87395866
haha your so rndom, i bet you are a realy funny guy, whats your instagram id love to add you so we can share pictures and stuff and maybe eventually add each other on facebook haha, little random but i think it would be funny

>>87395989

Seemed to think? It literally ripped off the pitch JMS gave to Paramount when he pitched them B5. He changed his pitches every time he got rejected.

>>87394665
>I don't pay attention to critics because they're just people who, like everyone else, have different tastes in shows
that's literally the point. you calibrate your reading of the review based on what you know about the reviewer, predicated on the assumption that their reviews aren't totally arbitrary. and their reputation accumulates over time as they publish reviews that are reliable given their biases.

this is why critics hate Armond White. he's not just a critic who's an arrogant, rude bastard. he also takes these arbitrary, contrarian opinions that can only be predicted by asking "what would probably be the most objectionable thing to say right now?". he's a bad critic because his reviews can't be used to predict whether anyone will like anything.

>>87395989

this.
although i would sometimes be rudely awakened from sleep when cisco starts dramaqueening in that foghorn loud voice.

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Wait, it's NOT a Star Trek show?

>>87396162

it would be easier (and less boring) if you just watch the trailers.

Is Hollywood finally coming to the conclusion that making Seth MacFarlene successful was a mistake?

How do professional writers get away with using cliches and idioms and colloquial meme phrases?
Do they not have editors anymore?

>>87396185

It's a comedy and more like a spoof or satire of Star Trek.

>>87396206

People read critics not to be guided but to namedrop because they erroneously assumed it will make them look smart when it reality people irl laugh at them because they look pretentiously foolish.

>>87394286
wasn't the X-Files on Fox? or am I just remembering syndication

>>87396335
x-files ain't scifi mate

I'm looking forward to it! I hope he does more sinatra covers :)

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>>87396025
Dude, alien-human sex is one of the better reasons for humans exploring space, of course it's going to take place in a space exploration TV show. Why the fuck wouldn't it?

>>87394003
Yeah it seems more like MacFarlane playing fan fiction. I except it to do as well as his cartoon cavalcade did.

do people still watch network tv?

>>87396206
>it would be easier (and less boring) if you just watch the trailers.
the trailers are designed to sell you on the movie. i don't understand what mental model you're operating with that such a conflict of interest doesn't make that an obvious non-starter to you.

trailers are entertainment. at best, they're hype engines. they shouldn't be used to figure out if you should go see a movie you're not sure you should see or not.

>>87396359
>The X-Files is an American science fiction drama...
(wikipedia)
>Drama, Mystery, Sci-Fi
(genres listed on IMDB)

The main plot line for most (all?) of the show was about aliens fucking with Earth and Mulder trying to stop it.

>>87396438

trailers are still better, more accurate and less boring than "critics".

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>>87396359

>>87394286
Fringe was on Fox

Essentially an X-Files clone but still sci-fi, drama

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>>87396549
>Fringe
comfy, campy, fun

>>87396335
>>87396359
As much of an asshole as it may make me sound like, there's a difference between types of science fiction. X-Files started out as a 'thriller, unexplained phenomena' type of light sci-fi. It went to shit as they turned the show into the campy, almost comical sort of sci-fi it ultimately ended as.

>>87396549
>>87396584

fringe was just a show for dawson's creek fangirls and campgayfags who are lusting over joshua jackson

>>87396704
>I never watched it
Good to know!

>>87396614
oh so you were referring to "hard" sci-fi, like Star Trek (not TOS or TAS), possibly Battlestar Galactica (though isn't that more space opera?).

How about Firefly? That was goofy and campy, but more "hard" no? That was on FOX.

>>87396704
>not watching it for John Noble
how does it feel being so wrong?

>>87396715

campgayfag detected

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>>87396704
I came for Sci-Fi but stayed for Anna Torv

>>87396767

deviant campgayfag detected

I'd rather watch this than SJW Trek

>>87396504
it doesn't sound like you're looking for what critics do, then. if you just want another packaging of the exciting bits of a movie, then yeah, trailers are much better and less boring.

>>87396722
Yeah, and those shows (Firefly, Fringe) had 'hard sci-fi' in every episode. They never tried to cover their sci-fi core.

Some of the best X-Files episodes had zero sci-fi plot (aside from perhaps offhand mentions about season-wide arcs). For example, I don't recall the infamous inbreeding episode having any hard sci-fi, it was more of a horror plot. Some were all mystery.

>>87396792
>ywn have martial-arts-training with fauxlivia

I want that shitty comedy time travel show back that got canceled for this shit.

>>87396843

what critics mainly do is to generate attention for shows by pretending to criticize it. they're not reliable.

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>>87396935
Making History? It was pretty okay

>>87396983
No lie there. "Wow, this show is so bad. You just HAVE to watch it to see how bad it is."
And people eat it up.

>>87394514
The manatees can only come up with so many jokes anon.

>>87396843

You only read critics just to namedrop critics, you pretentious fool.

>>87396935
>time travel
>comedy
>shitty

Enterprise was more of a farce than a comedy, anon.

>>87396983
>>87397029
you're talking about buzzfeed or something. that's clickbait. you don't have to click on things that have "#4 will shock you" in the title.

>>87397102
the only person i've named was armond white, to show what a bad critic looks like. this isn't about namedropping. stop being so insecure.

>>87397172

Namedropping is actually what insecure people due to mask their insecurities.

>>87396377
>alien-human sex is one of the better reasons for humans exploring space
Human-alien sex is degenerate, disgusting and likely to kill you or your dick with all kinds of extraterrestrial diseases that will spread through to other humans.

If humanity still have common sense in the future is smart they'll make it illegal to fuck aliens.

>>87397172
Have you never heard the phrase "there's no such thing as negative publicity"?

Bad reviews generate interest just as much as good reviews, because when the general population sees a critic shit-talking a show, they want to see just how bad it really is.

It's how a lot of movies/shows that have no business being remembered at all become cult classics.

>>87397325
it really seems unlikely any extraterrestrial disease would be transmittable (like, something between iguanas and humans, for example) let alone our physiology to be compatible for intercourse. but here's to hoping, amirite

I remember when Family Guy was cancelled and not on Adult Swim, and people were sharing episodes on limewire and shit and talking about what a shame it was that such a great television show was "killed before its time." Honestly, people didn't really start hating Family Guy and MacFarlane until the South Park episode.

>>87394057
This
He's one of the few celebrities I'd enjoy watching burn to death.

>>87394548

t. Maureen Ryan

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>>87394003

I'll edit that.

Star Trek Discovery certainly never makes a convincing case for its existence.

It (The Orville) exists so that creator star Seth MacFarlane can do elaborate "Star Trek" JOKES, which NO ONE but critics have issues with.

No one should care what TV critics think, because TV critics are pissed off writers who never succeeded in profiting on their own creations. TV critics = failed screenplay writers

>>87395559
Great. Now my cat's asshole is laughing. How do you sleep at night?

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>>87397405
>Does alien pussy have STDs? Not likely.

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Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?

>>87397405
well either they would either lay eggs or be mammals.

>>87397358
again you're talking about shitty critics who are more like shock jocks than anything else. most reviews of movies aren't that bombastic. you just remember salient reviews because those are more memorable.

i can't even imagine what additional lengths you're going to ask me to go to in order to show that there are plenty of movie reviews out there that just aren't very vitriolic or extreme. do us all a favor and find a reviewer, then pick like 5-10 random reviews from their career. and a word of caution: search engines will float to the top any page that has lots of other pages linking to it. the thinking is that any page others link to is authoritative about *something*, but in this case you would inadvertently be seeing the most controversial reviews of any given reviewer - the ones that everyone else thought was so "out there" that they wanted to write about it.

>>87394003
>Seth McFarlane gets sick of making family guy and cartoons, wants to get into movies
>proceeds to fill his films with exactly the same referential, lazy, gross-out humour
>goes back to tv to not only rip off ("spoof") star trek but clumsily tread on the boots of galaxy quest

ffs galaxy quest already did a star trek spoof and pulled it off perfectly. I can't wait for the day he's confronted by his own obsolescence and drinks himself to death

>>87397426
>I remember when Family Guy was cancelled and not on Adult Swim, and people were sharing episodes on limewire and shit and talking about what a shame it was that such a great television show was "killed before its time." Honestly, people didn't really start hating Family Guy and MacFarlane until the South Park episode.
Nobody hates anything when it's cult and they feel like they are part of a secret club. But then it gets popular and they start screaming "sellout!" and you know the rest. I chalk it up to echoes of the cognitive dissonance between the ideal of individualism and the whole Chosen One hero myth on one hand, and the continuously reinforced RL experience of not being special in any way, shape, or form.

>>87394003
this show looks better and more like Star Trek then the actual new Star Trek show.
Then again this isn´t saying much regarding well the new Star Trek show

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the no-eyebrow look doesn't suit non-blacks

>>87396185
>>87396325
but apparently it isn´t to 100% a comedy what ever that means

>>87397770
american red dwarf attempt 2.0?

>>87397536
his must have a nice tite wite boi pussy to b able to push those big turds at such an elevation

>>87397617
>you just remember salient reviews because those are more memorable
That is exactly the point I was making. That's exactly how people are, they remember the extremes and become interested.
The only reviews that don't actively boost interest in something are the forgettable, tepid ones.
I'm glad you at least recognize the hypothesis, even if you're having trouble comprehending the implications.

>>87398144
It's actually a detailed drawing, not a photo.

>>87397358
There is such a thing as bad publicity, especially if critic just reassures you that you were right to expect garbage.

There is publicity that is ostensibly bad but actually good, if someone pans you product but makes themselves seem like retards/fundies/prudes/SJW/whatever you might get interested to see what triggers them so much. But not if it's just plain garbage.

>Dillion Harper show failing

WOW WHAT A SHOCKER NO ONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED TJIS

SURELY THE ENTERTAINMENT ENDUSTRY IS RUN BY ONLY THE MOST ACCOMPLISHED AND SKILLED MINDS

>>87394665

>Variety is a woman's magazine like Cosmo?

The great minds of /pol/ at work

Brian Geniouses

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>>87396325

>It's a comedy

>(((critics))) say that ghostbusters tampon edition is GREAT

yeah, I don't listen to critics, I can form my own opinions

>>87398730
>especially if critic just reassures you that you were right to expect garbage
That situation is anecdotal, personal to you. The idea of 'no such thing as bad publicity' works on a wider scale. A critic reinforcing your personal opinion may, at the same time, be going against someone else's opinion.
The only time the idea is incorrect is when everyone shares the same opinion. How often is that?

>>87397426
>>87397658

I hated Family Guy early, after being forced to watch it at summer camp the year the DVD first came out.

There were maybe three good episodes

>>87396325
>It's a comedy
It isn't.

>and more like a spoof or satire
I'll give this one to you for free: The word you want to be using here is "pastiche."

>>87394003

I'm inclined to think it's shit, because it's Seth, starring Seth in a vehicle to do what Seth wants. So fucking self absorbed it smells like farts.

On the other hand TNG was shitty from the start and took two seasons to get on its feet. If this is a sneaky way to make more Trek (using the comedy angle to get away with it), I'll give it a chance.

>>87394514
You seem surprised, he made the same show three times.

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I know Star trek having black people (somehow) triggers you and you're all official Seth Defense Force Volunteers but this show is being unanimously shit on by critics.

That coupled with how absurdly expensive it must be and the fact that it will alienate Family Guy fans by being mismarketed as a comedy gives me hope that it will bomb enough to get Seth kicked off of tv.

>Trailer shows an incompetent guy being appointed a captain apparently because they are completely out of candidates
>He has an extended conversation with an alien about urination
>Subplot about his ex-wife who hates him or something
>Starring Seth McFarlane

Now they are telling me it's not a comedy. What the fuck is wrong with those people?

>>87399134
As with mother things these days, people have forgotten that things/people can be more than one thing at once.

>>87396377
it's literally bestiality

>>87398987

You are an example of the problem with the modern entertainment industry and I look forward to forcing you to a gulliotine when the capitalist system falls apart

>>87399134

Except none of this is funny

>>87394548
>tv critics
>respected

>>87394263
This, frankly.

>>87399092
>but this show is being unanimously shit on by critics.
And Ghostbusters (2016) was unanimously praised by critics. What's your point?

You think that's bad? Remember the time I made a sci-fi show?

>>87396487
do you call star wars a sci fi too you dumb retard?

>>87401071

>And Ghostbusters (2016) was unanimously praised by critics.

Wut

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>>87401215
Where were you last year!?

>>87401265

I thought everyone hated it unless they were either stupid or paid.

>>87401325
So the critics all loved it...but they didn't love it...because they were dumb or paid to love it...?

>>87401325
>unless they were either stupid or paid.

Convenient how you've managed to construct a world in which it's literately impossible for someone to disagree with you.

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this show just looks like a live action family guy star trek special, except it's the entire series instead of just a few episodes. macfarlane is only good in very small doses.

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>>87394003
>people actually had faith in a Seth McFarlane project
>this board will start defending this because the new Star Trek is "SJW shit"

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>>87401265
>oscarposting
comfy af famalam

>>87401649
To be fair, even if you strip away all the Social Juicy stuff from the new Trek, it does look like absolutely dogshit. You can't really complain, Trek has always, ALWAYS done the pushing new ground with the racial/ethnic makeup of casting... You can't complain ABOUT THAT.

But wowee do we not need to complain about that. There's plenty.

>>87401732
i don't mind diversity in tv/film. if the character is written/acted well idgaf. i get annoyed when the producers market how diverse it is and then make all the bad guys white men. not very subtle, you cunts.

>>87395571
It's not "wrong", but it is kind of silly watching something in order to spite a person who will never know or care instead of just watching something you enjoy.

>>87394003
I think he's being really clever, when Discovery airs and it's actually worse people will look at this show and praise it in comparison.

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>>87399983
Not if the alien you're fucking is humanoid and intelligent.

>>87394057
Hey, man, American Dad was pretty good after S2, at least for a while

>>87394514
I used to watch all his shows every week so I would often spot not only reused jokes but themes. like something was on his mind that week and he would put it in all of his shit. When he was feeling generous he would reuse the season 3 plot of family guy for Cleveland show

>>87402313
...and qt

>>87394003
>middle-aged woman television critic

invalid

>>87396792
Dough faced Jennifer Lawrence lookin ass bitch.

>>87394057

ummm.. sweetie...?

He created Family Guy.....

>it's a "/tv/ defends a shitty show because they don't like the reviewer" episode

>>87394003
Its going to be a cult hit and it will never get cancelled.

>>87394003
Hit piece by a HuffPo extreme leftist trying to secure Star Trek Diversity's success

>>87397051
CAPTAIN AMERICA MEME

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>>87395559

>>87394003
Wow, that burn. I get not liking the show but i s there any reason to be such a bitch? I notice a lot of "critics" tend to do this.

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>>87394003

>>87396359
This thread needs to crash and burn,with no survivors.

>>87407484

they do it because insults and being a bitch entertains some people like people who watch american idol for simon cowell and gordon fans and reality show fans.

critics job is not to give guidance. their job is to entertain.

>>87407528
AAAA! Why?!