Twin Peaks Finale

>no set design, feels empty and lifeless
>no interesting ideas for storylines and generally bad writing
>relies on gimmicks only instead
>those are unoriginal or just bad, unfortunately ("fuck you, albert", glove, andy and lucy, coordinates, riddles, ...)
>bad acting (Bell, Lynch, Horse, Robertson, Dern, ...)
>dull characters (one-dimensional at best)
>storylines and characters are introduced for no purpose
>everything is supposed to weirdly connect and make sense
>shot in digital in a way that doesn't compensate for the technology's disadvantages (looks bad)
>roadhouse scenes (out of place, badly shot, the songs, the bands, the extras, ...)
>student-tier storytelling/editing (characters are shown walking up complete sets of stairs)
>stretched out needlessly, long takes have no particular effect
>obviously delusional and/or inexperienced fanbase perceiving it as particularly meaningful, complex or "deep"
>can't compare to the original series that doesn't have those problems (coherent/complex and beautiful sets, costumes and make-up/well shot/well acted/well written/magnificent multi-dimensional characters and character relations, music, storylines and gimmicks/creates a unique athmosphere as a result, changing the world of television forever whereas "the return" neither manages to do something established really good nor to invent something new)
>extended pitch black scenes because of a lack of a competent cinematographer
>audio issues with microphone static left unaddressed because of poor sound design
>extremely poor editing with magically disappearing extras and production staff accidentally walking into frame
>somehow the best thing in tv history

How do we stop Judy?

>>87389869
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your interpretation man.

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>>87389869
>Judy and demon shit irrelevant red herring
>despite being the focus of the season and FWWM's most ambiguous scene

nah

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>>87389910

Stop Judy.

Long interpretation, muh reddit shilling here

https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/6ydg58/s3e18_cooper_is_in_the_real_world_twin_peaks_show/

Tell me why I'm wrong

>>87389886
I mean, you're not wrong... but FUCK YOU!

>>87390009
because Lynch doesn't like that whole meta stuff

His work is constantly compared to "oh it's about the viewer and their relationship with movies" and he's dismissed this many times

he's more interested in dreams and dream logic

>>87390159
Lynch doesn't like single objective explanations either.
They're """"abstractions""""
The reddit fag is no more right or wrong than anyone else.

>>87390226
I think he's more wrong than people who understand Lynch's style and sensibility. Which doesn't include making statements about people watching tv.

>>87390254
You can't say that objectively.
He leaves it to interpretation, everything about the film is in the film, any outside shit is irrelevant, including Lynch and his other works.
A guy can interpret it any way he wants.

>>87389886
This isn't even a good pasta

>>87390298
And I can interpret the redditors post as being off-base and unrealistic

>>87390299
everything he says is correct my dude

Be honest, pseuds. All you guys riding Lynch's dick for being ambiguous.

If this had been 10 episodes of comfy Twin Peaks feels, you'd still defend the series and praise it as amazing. What's wrong with that?

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So is Sarah Judy, or just a Judy Nigger?

>>87389886
easy to explain. it's 4chan.

>contrarian audience

>>87389869
>>Enters our/real world
>>Women who answered door at the Palmer house was real world owner
I had thought maybe it would list her real name the same as the character to show this in the credits.

>>87389910
Don't talk about her

>>87389869
If that is the case, what's up with the Chalfont name in the real world? The chalfonts are black lodge/red room inhabitants and what's up with Laura hearing her mother Sarah calling her name and screaming?

>>87390159
I mean I'm not being in the foighting spirit here, but why then would he use the actual owner of the house in the last scene
What about "what year is this?" (something virtually every idiot internet critic used as the tagline for articles about the season's announcement.

>>87390713
>Chalfond
Actual owner telling actual buying history, I don't recall the use of that name in the series, but it it is probably used the name because they thought it sounded good or something

>"Laura!"
No answer for that one, one of the few places where my theory breaks down.

>>87390751
>I don't recall the use of that name in the series
Let me remind you then, Chalfont is the name of the old Lady and the little kid that Donna visits with the meals on wheels program. Laura visited them too. They also owned the caravan before teresa banks lived there in FWWM. They also get reffered to as Tremond.
This can't be a coincidence.

>>87390786
Ah, ya I did my best to forget all of season 2 post Leland death

No I agree it cannot. The lady who answered the door is the real world owner of that house, and I believe I heard (not finding confirmation on this) that everything she says is about who used to own it, etc is 100% real world accurate. Likely when they rented out use of the house in season 1 they got the history (maybe even the Chalmont's owned it then) and got that name. Though it sounded good and used it for that weird old lady and her corny grandson.

My best guess anyway

>>87390866
>that everything she says is about who used to own it, etc is 100% real world accurate
100% wrong. Tremond and Chalfont have been significant names in the series for a long time. The real house isn't coincidentally owned by people called that. You have to realise how stupid an idea that is.

I like your reading, but you're making it look much much worse by being stubborn about what you're wrong on.

When you guys have a dream, do you spend hours trying to figure out what it meant? We live inside a dream. Do you write paragraphs and thinkpieces have have arguments about it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKfAb8nlKyQ

We live inside a dream. Man this scene really reminds me of how much I missed the Jazz. We live inside a dream.

find out who richard linda and judy are in real life.

Why was David and Mark so sure they'll get an another season to follow?

>>87390866
At any rate that lady in TPS2 was an elderly woman, not the middle aged woman we see in the finale. There is no way Laura Palmer would have even been born then.

>>87390939
I looked up the names of the house owner, while the actress was the owner the names were changed

Gotta eat that one

So any idea on the significance of the name? Is Cooper now in an alternate reality crafted by the black lodge?

One thing I noticed in this world they used a "Valero" gas station. Up until this point, not a single real brand name has been used, except "Heineken" which was served to the coked up girls in the roadhouse. Just makes me wonder

>>87391047
They weren't, and aren't. Lynch mentioned a few times that he liked working with everyone and gave the vague "oh I used to say I'd never do more but I did now" answer as a courtesy. There will be no more seasons. This was very definitively the sort of ending Lynch and Frost always wanted - a mystery. Remember they never wanted to reveal Laura's killer. They finally got to do a substitute of that.

>>87390866
>post
NORMIES GET OUT you haven't seen shit bitch, I knew it would be both Chalfont and Tremond before he knocked.

>>87390326
neck yourself, my man

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>>87389869
You are almost there. Cooper entered somewhat more real world, but not ours. It was Laura at the end. She screamed and woke up from the TV/dream - so the TV series ended.
Like Audrey - she screamed and her story ended.
Like the japanese girl in the bar that was watching the show (just like you) - she screamed and the episode ended.
(I heard screamed in japanese sounds like jou dey)
So there were two layers. Our real world contains the world from episode 18 and that one contained a less real world of Twin Peaks series.
There is a lot about crossing the border between the TV series and the real world. The shows in the bar: Eddie Vedder being presented with his real name Edward Louis Severson, NIN being presented as "The" Nine Inch Nails. Someone from the real world - Monica Bellucci - brings the news that this is a dream.
It was just a story about the little girl who lived down the lane. Now you should wake up from your escapism into TV worlds.

>>87391077
>So any idea on the significance of the name? Is Cooper now in an alternate reality crafted by the black lodge?

I still think your idea of it being the "real world" is good. Gotta realise Twin Peaks isn't like Westworld or a Nolan movie, there's no secret "actual answer" to puzzle out. It's all dream logic. All the theories are right, and all the theories are wrong. Listen to what Lynch says - use your intuition, react with your emotions, don't try and translate it all into words. Just feel it. There is no "answer". There is the feeling of not having an answer. That's what it is.

Like >>87391082
says, Twin Peaks was always meant to be an unsolvable mystery. They managed to get it back to that, finally.

>>87390159
This.

I want to watch Twin Peaks from the beginning. Can I skip season 3 episode 18?

>>87391121
This and >>87390159
this get it. It's not a puzzle. It's a dream, just like all movies are dreams.

Why do we dream?

>>87390376
"You fans would enjoy stuff your fans of"

faggot.

>>87391213
Because we are like the dreamers

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>>87391106
So just how screams awake us from nightmares, screams awake them from their false realities.
So all the characters are in a false reality?
Are we in a false reality?
Makes me want to scream...

>We are like the dreamer who dreams, and then lives inside the dream. But who is the dreamer?

Lynch and Frost for making the series? Us ourselves for being the ones experiencing it? Something beyond us, that's dreaming us up?

>>87391273
>Makes me want to scream
ding ding ding you got it. thats why carrie screamed, and why you want to

>>87391279
>87391279

It's Laura you retarded monkey.

It is a happy ending disguised as a sad one. People were right. Coop manages to save Laura's life. After Cooper shows up in the woods and grabs Laura's hand, she gets snatched away possibly by Judy and traps her in a dream where which Coop must enter in order to save her. The reason Coop becomes all weird is because he is meshing himself with Laura's dream image of Cooper, since she does not known his name (though she has met him) she decides he is Richard. Laura even says to Coop that she has dreamt about him previously. In FWWM one of the last things Laura did that night was watch Bobby kill that drug dealer which is currently weighing heavily on Laura Palmer the teenage girl's conscience which is why in her dream version of herself, there is a corpse sitting in her living room and she feels the need to get away from it. This is her manifestation of the guy Bobby killed. She is Carrie Page in her dream just like Diane Selwyn becomes Betty Elms in Mulholland Drive. At the end when Cooper asks "what year is this?" it gets Laura to thinking about the reality she is inside which is how dreams always unfold, by questioning them, Laura realizes the world she is inside isn't real and she starts to wake up, hearing her mother's call for her which is the same audio from Episode 1 where Sarah tries to wake her up. Laura hears it because she's still in bed, she was never murdered and Coop saved her. This is all too much for her though and the nightmare she is in makes her feel terror for the version of her that was murdered and everything that happened since and she screams and the lights go off indicating that she has just awoken. It feels weird and fucked up because it's a nightmare but the reality behind it is good. Think about the Monica Belluci dream, where they ask "who is the dreamer?" it's Laura and it's always been Laura.

>>87389886
fpbp

>>87391343
>>87391374
There is no answer, that's the entire point. Why do you think the closing credits are over a literal unsolvable mystery, a sentence we will never hear?

There is no "disguised ending", there is no puzzle, there is no answer. This is what Lynch wanted always, since 89. This was always meant to be the ending. Not the specific thing that happened, but it being a mystery without resolution. You can't resolve it.

>>87391401

You're literally wrong.

>>87391374
>This is her manifestation of the guy Bobby killed.
All this theoryshit misses the point. You're reaching and trying to sort out a dream. Dreams aren't puzzles.

>>87391401

Who cares what Lynch wants? This was written by Frost.

>>87389886
what did he mean by this?

>>87391421

yes they are

>>87391417
The credits as I say. Lynch's desires are as I say. Prove me wrong. Prove the credits aren't of something we don't hear. Prove that Lynch and Frost indeed didn't want to ever reveal Laura's killer.

>>87391428
They wanted the same thing, they've always maintained that. The mystery of Laura was the golden goose. They managed to get back to that in the end.

>>87391446

just because one mystery exists doesn't mean the ending is one too

>>87391439
They literally aren't, both in the real-world science of what dreams are, and in Lynch and Frost's interpretation of dream logic.

>The audience was Laura the whole time

what the frick

>>87391460
The one mystery doesn't exist, is my point. The network forced them to reveal Laura's killer. But in the end they managed to position the show as an unsolvable mystery of Laura again.

There is no "answer" to the ending. Lynch and Frost will literally never confirm anyone's theories. Lynch particularly will keep insisting on what he's always said, that the movie is the thing, that putting it into words is wrong and misses the point. You will never make the ending not a mystery. All you can do is distort it into words, which misses the point entirely.

>>87391374
So is it a loop? Laura is dreaming and will wake up from the nightmare to just her mom waking her up normally, since she wasnt killed?
Since the dream will end, is Coop ded (minus the Dougie incarnation)

Wow, they really ruined Twin Peaks. No one is talking about the characters or multiple storylines just the meaning of the ending.

RIP TP

>>87391464

I bet you think Mulholland Drive doesn't have a cut and dry story either. Plebs like you don't deserve to fucking live.

>>87391492

There is an answer. It's the thing I wrote. It is right and you are wrong.

>>87390009
why does /tv/ have to be filled with so many redditors?

>>87391511
Then prove it.

>>87391524
Check my previous posts fggt, theres like a half dozen.

>>87390009

Why doesn't Coop become Kyle? He becomes Richard. You are wrong. He is entering Laura's dream at the end.

>>87391555
You know full well he can't.

>>87391555
>Then prove it.

I am Mark Frost. I know what I wrote.

You fucking pleb redditor faggot.

>>87391565
>https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/6ydg58/s3e18_cooper_is_in_the_real_world_twin_peaks_show/
If my theory is correct, Coop is still Coop. There's a Kyle McLachlan doppleganger off somewhere in the world (never having been cast as Cooper) being dumb and being on the Showgirls set or whatever.

If they ran into each other it would be uncomfortable.

>>87389869
>Women who answered door at the Palmer house was real world owner
Your theory has this flaw: The Tremont/Chalfont are characters in Twin Peaks and in FWWM.
And also hits too close to
>Wes Craven's New Nightmare

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>>87390438
Judy IS a nigger

>>87391642
Honestly (me being a bit of a gamer fag) I got a real Silent Hill 2 vibe with this finale.
Like we're seeing the delusions of a person with a dissassociative disorder being dragged to the earth.

>>87390438
That smile is from Laura Palmer.

>>87391624
No theory can be correct. It's not a puzzle.

>>87391680
So all a delusion of Laura, treating her mom as a bad guy?

>>87390866
>>87390987
That kid, by the way, apart from being Lynch's son is Mrs. Tremond's grandson, probably the man (he's all grown up by now) we don't see in Laura Palmer's house.

>>87391677
So...... Lost Highway?
Why the fuck do you think about SH2 instead of Lost Highway when it comes to a dissassociative disorder?

>>87391925
Because I don't know what is a Lost Highway

>>87389886
someday you will find out how wrong you are..

Also just an aside for anyone that cares

Long story short, cunt of a grieving widow mother (don't feel bad calling her that after recent updates) called cops on me for taking too benzos when I was having a bit of a rage episode and wanted to calm down and sleep without causing much damage to myself or property (have punched out a window in the past, shit hurts).

Was along to way to get start a career in intelligence in the airforce as an officer. "But what if you get killed" this was her way of fucking that pathway for me up.

Lied and said I "threatened to take her and myself out" and "burn the house down." Absolute horse shit based on twisting a couple obviously sarcastic comments.

I was commited against my will to an asylum for 5 years, among screaming psychos, rapists, and murderers

On the outside developed legit ptsd. Every night since (a week tonight, havent seen it tonght but been drinking) around the time the police showed up, developed hyper vigilance symptoms where I get super analytical and unknowns cause me actual pain.

First case happened during epsisoed 2 of current season (right before Mr C kills Darya to be exact).

Bad show to watch when tripping, but had to keep going cuz I needed questions answered. Got through about 6 a night.

>>87390987
The jazz is the main thing missing from this season (although I sort of like the ambient stuff)

>>87391273
YOU
WERE
LYNCHED

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7o2ca

also this

>>87392118

no one wants to hear about your shit life and the people that have to put up with you.

>>87392233
Probably not, just saying this season particularly fucked with my head

So the whole problem here was that Coop thought it was safe to bring Laura home since BOB doesn't exist anymore but the bigger problem was Sarah being possessed by Judy all this time?

But was Sarah possessed by Judy? I thought Judy sent Bob to earth to fuck up Lauras shit. Didn't Sarah only become recently possessed by Judy?

Something else:
Who was the girl in episode eight that has the evil bug crawling down her throat?

>>87391944
That must be bait man.

>>87392363
Credits list her as Judy (1954)

>>87392363
Not the creature was a frog + locust, very Egyptian

My interpretation was that Judy (experiment) possessed her with the frog (as aided my the woodsman niggers) and that Bob and her were drawn together. Laura was injected between them by the white lodge to keep them from becoming too powerful. My take, she an avatar of judy (when Mr C asked Phillips for where Judy is, he gave him 3 numbers (those of the street address of the palmers))

>>87392393
Fraid not, must not be cultured enough. I looked it up and downloaded it, will for sure watch it.

>>87392363
>Who was the girl in episode eight that has the evil bug crawling down her throat?
Sarah Palmer

>>87392457
You do know David Lynch made other things apart from Twin Peaks, don't you?

>>87392461
>Sarah Palmer
Citiation needed

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Experiment=Judy=Mother

TBQH the supernatural lore of Twin Peaks is pretty on the nose which is uncharacteristic of Lynch, makes me wonder about it's legitimacy

>>87392484
No not at all, are you sure???
Faggy sarcasm aside, I've seen a lot of his work (off top of my head Erasherhead, Elephant Man, Blue Velvet, Inland Empire, and my friend showed me a dvd collection of his shorts)
Hadn't heard of that one

>>87392498
See "obvious foreshadowing"

>>87392498
Man, didn't you see in the fucking show the UNIVERSE OF EVIL THINGS Sarah Palmer hide behind her facade?
Do the math on the ages of both the girl and Sarah

Why was Doppelcoop looking for real Diana? I thought he meant to go to Sarah/Judy.

>>87392560
>Do the math on the ages of both the girl and Sarah

But Sarah has another date of birth, it can not be pre '54.

Furthermore, it would make no sense that Bob wants to get together with Judy because then they would have been together all this time anyway.

>>87392549
Just saying you probably couldn't understand TPTR without watching LH, MD and IE. Lynch is repeating the basic same story all over again.
Not that it's bad, I'm happy with it, but it's the same
This season has more in common with those that with classic TP, I mean, it's a reinterpretation of all TP through that new trick he has

>>87392586
>44
>10 at time of mouth rape
>roughly 27 when laura was born

Little bit old school, but see no problems

>>87389869
If the tv show never happened, then who was filming?

>>87392586
Mach 3, 1945.

>>87392631
then who was phone?

Season 4 when to create at least another 100 plotlines?

>>87391106
sounds similiar to inland empire

>>87391234
Underrated post.

>>87392742
There will be no season 4, everything is locked

>>87391106
Dumb theory. Lynch is above that "meta" crap.

>>87392213
Is this canon?

>>87392603
Maybe they planned the whole thing together?

>>87391124
No, Episode 18 is the best part of the entire show.

>>87389869
>>Women who answered door at the Palmer house was real world owner
Expcet her tv-show name was used, your theory is shit.

>>87396888
I'd say ep1, ep3, ep4, the nuclear episode, and episode 18 are the best.

it didn't really need 18 episodes.
so much filler that is completely useless fanservice in between

like norma's dinner story

>>87392603
Mr. C was not "BOB". BOB, some part of him, was in Mr. C. But Mr. C was his own being. Now both Mr. C and BOB did act against Black Lodge multiple times.

If Judy is Black Lodge spirits boss then Mr. C acted against her.

if Mr. C knew Judy only by "Experiment" or some other name, then he might've wanted to harness its power for his own purposes.

>>87392324
I don't think Dale Cooper knew that bit about Sarah.

but I do think that Giant / Fireman figured that Dale Cooper and Laura Palmer can take Experiment; Mother; Judy, Sarah Palmer down somehow since he guides them there.

>>87391492
Words can't express the meaning of the series? Damn...

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So now when I rewatch the show I will do so in the knowledge that Sarah was possessed by too the entire time... not looking forward to this

>>87389886
example of production staff walking into frame?

>>87389886
>LYNCHED

>>87397057
Not that anon but before S3 I assumed BOBs possesion worked by trapping his soul in the body only helplessly watching while BOB was in control. Obviously that is not the case but is there some consensus on how it works? Does BOB even have a personality or is he just some dark alien emotional bundle? Also if the Doppelganger have the memories of the original how had Mr. C never heard of Judy?

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>>87397224

>>87397465
Stroke of a genius to cast him as villain desu.

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>they show young Laura
>they show young Josie
>they didn't show young Audrey

>>87397224
https://youtu.be/n35Zzum0h6Q?t=1m12s

Talking about Judy was a mistake.

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>>87397219

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>>87394260
You mean he is like one layer higher?

I'm sure you can read TP in many ways, and giving many ways to interpret is what good works of art tend to do.
However that there is less than a "dumb theory" and more of just pointing out what went on.
There is a clean separation of worlds:
This world we consider real -> World from ep. 18 -> "Classic" Twin Peaks -> Lodges

Sorry to break it to you, but Lynch is all meta. His characters name (Gordon Cole) comes from one of Lynch's favourite movies - Sunset Boulevard.

>>87391624

>Linking Reddit

Fuck off.

Also, Kyle has CONFIRMED that it's Richard, not Cooper

>>87398292
>Also, Kyle has CONFIRMED that it's Richard, not Cooper
Well, kinda but not exactly: http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/twin-peaks-kyle-maclachlan-finale-1202547022/
>He was… different.
>The way it was described to me, he’s just a little harder.
>So it was another variation, sort of a subtle variation obviously, compared to the other two, but a subtle variation of Cooper.
>And so that was that last hour, Watching him navigate that.

>>87392144

It kind of hurts a bit hearing it now

>>87398705

If he had to act different and as a variation of Cooper, that means it wasn't Cooper at all.

>>87398705
Makes sense. Felt really off when he shot the guy in the foot.

>>87390326
>he
t. samefag

>>87392412
stale meme

>>87390159
he loves people's theories

>On the other hand, Justin Theroux said of Lynch's feelings on the multiple meanings people perceive in the film, "I think he's genuinely happy for it to mean anything you want. He loves it when people come up with really bizarre interpretations. David works from his subconscious."

>>87391077
>not a single real brand name has been used

You're either taking the piss or incredibly unobservant. iPhones, Skype (literally namedropped), Wendy's (also namedropped), Raisin Bran Crunch. That's just off the top of my head.

The true unedited ending Showtime executives did not want you to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDt5HTULfnQ

>>87401371
ok that was funny. But remember when Jeffries spoke about an "unofficial version". what was he talking about?

>>87391273
I fucking miss Season 1....

>>87391306
>carrie
Who?

>>87401729
Carrie Paige
http://twinpeaks.wikia.com/wiki/Carrie_Page

>>87401764
Ah yeah, alternate Laura.

>>87389869
>Even Kyle MacLachlan doesn't understand the ending
Can we finally admit that David Lynch created this season so he could fuck Lsura Dern and Naomi Watts again

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>you just know

man, i love the way kyle says "what year is this?"

I kind of want to watch Twin Peaks, but Lynch seems like a pretentious douche in an interview I watched yesterday. Should I watch or no?

>>87401890
I thought he made it to fuck the redheaded FBI agent.

>>87401965
someone should make a videoclip and add back to the future music

>>87392118

>"But what if you get killed" this was her way of fucking that pathway for me up.

All mothers are like that, its your fault you dumb cunt.

>>87392118

Its clear that you're a delusional psychopath/schizophrenic, I feel sorry for your mother

>>87398292

HE INTRODUCES HIMSELF AS SPECIAL AGENT DALE COOPER TWICE YOU MORON

>>87402435
I think what moron can't understand about what Kyle said in this >>87398705 interview is that that Cooper is no longer the Cooper we know, probably is a Cooper who initially thought it was going to solve things once and for all but got devastated by what is now realizing
>we live inside a dream
>who is the dreamer?

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>>87389869
the fat faggot from mega 64 agrees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJrGY2jFw0g

>>87402931

Thanks for sharing this 'fag faggots' opinion rather than sharing your own

>>87397674
lmao the director went into the frame, what a HACK

can someone post that LYNCHED pic with David Lynches fingers in front of his face from FWWM.

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>>87403164

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>>87389886
>your a big guy

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>>87390786
>>87390866
>>87390751

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0vm_Yyygl4

>>87391510
>he'd not old enough to remember the media after season 2 ended

kys generationpleb. this was never for you anyways.. it was for your parents. fucking pleb.

>>87402836
Pretty sure Kyle was talking about Mister C and Dougie

>>87403451
Did you read the interview or is it too long for you?
>Did you feel that Richard, in the finale, was a distinct character of his own, or just Cooper with a different name?

>>87403509
too long for me.

Fucking millenials, just die already

>>87403705

>over 35 and posting on 4chan

loser

>>87403822
>wasting what are supposedly the best years of one's life on 4chan
Loser.

>>87403182
And the animated lynch finger gif?

>>87403822

Ur life is over by then. Thats the exact time to be active here.

>>87390717
To create confusion. They can never cross to the real world, even if you think the last scene is the real world, is not, is still a fabricated dream, still the tv show.

They cant ever never cross to our reality.

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>>87403988
The dream, the nightmare.

>>87390866
Loool

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>>87397465
he was a faggot IRL and died of aids

not even kidding

>>87404426
>gay AIDS carrier is villain
What did Lynch mean by this?

>Jawdy is an extreme negative force
Is it possible that it's one of his ex-wives?

>>87404644
Jewdy

>>87392461


Judy

>>87404644
The explanation ends the shows.

>>87404426
THOSE FUCKING GIRLS LOOK THE SAME

>>87404712
You must be very stupid. Judy is not an individual person, is an entity, did you watch the episodes?
The girl from 1954 is Sarah Palmer, why the fuck are you so thick?

>>87405435
So, that insect was Judy? All these demons were unleashed during the first nuke testing?

Why didn't Bad Coop know about Judy? I thought they were on the same team

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>>87389869
Reminder that all of Twin Peaks was just Laura's dream trying to scape the misery of her life, trying to make sense of all the rape, drug abuse, prostitution, etc. And being horrified when she wakes up and has to go back to reality where there are no some grand celestial explanation to all the evil she is suffering

Basically Muholland Drive all over again

>>87406455
I don't even know what Bad coop wanted to achieve.

>>87406455
Because Judy is his mother, he met her but didn't know her. That's my lerebbit theory.

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>>87406455
Did Judy even know about BOB?
How are two evil spirits from the same dimension married for over 20 years without recognizing each other?

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>>87406681
there are no powers and no mumbo jumbo this is what Lynch said in MD is only a broken woman dreaming of a reason for all her misery

>Why is my dad loving and caring most of the time but then becomes violent and rapes me?
I know is because he is possesed by an evil spirit

>why does Mom let all of this happend? theres no way she doesnt know my father abuses me
is because she is an even worse evil the mother of all evils

>is there a reason for all these suffering I'm going through?
yes is because a superior being sent me to destroy a huge evil of extreme negative energy I'm a martyr

thats why when Sara wakes her up to reality she is scared to death, she has to face reality

>>87406778
I think that's because she's only got the jumping man in there. Judy works outside existence.

>>87405435
You must be very stupid. Judy is not an entity, is a metaphysical concept, did you watch the episodes?
Sarah Palmer is evil that begets good, running in a cycle, yin-yang, one turning into the other in a continuous cycle, of losing Laura, succumbing to Judy, and finding Laura again. Why the fuck are so you thick?

>>87389869
In what "real world" can you drive from Texas to Washington in less than 24 hours?

Was the acting intentionally terrible? Kyle and maybe a few others were good, the rest were atrocious.

>>87389886
look mum, i posted it again!

>>87406904
>tfw forget to take name off after shit posting

>>87406920
That's a subjective complaint.

>>87390751

jesus you're on wrong tracks, the homeowners names were far more important than you think, as was the little white horse in pages/laura's home

>>87391077

They are probably in a world owned by the entity "judy". More violent, more decrepit and even lauras doppelganger works in place called "judy's".

When laura screams it probably just came back to her, she suddenly realized who she was and in how deep shit she actually was now.. cooper started breaking down too, he realized he had made some horrible mistake, at least thats how I felt

J U D Y
I S
T H E
H O U S E

>>87407085

It's reminiscent of Deer Meadow in FWWM.

>>87390376

I assure you that if the show had been only nostalgic comeback to town of twin peaks, people wouldn't have been talking about it like they do now. It might've satisfied some fans for a while, but I doubt it would've been half as memorable and disturbing as this return was

>>87402931
Rocco is a good boy.

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>>87407181
"From director David Lynch"

>>87406800
>>87406681
this is the most reasonable and logical explanation, and the way interpret it, but all the other mythos thrown in there with electricity and the experiment is tough fit into the same frame. fuckin lynch man

>>87391374
>Laura wakes up to a life of rape, incest, drug abuse and prostitution
>Coop "saves" her
she is awake but Bob and Judy are still out there, shitty ending

>>87407181

yup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jb6UySEYDk

>>87407181
JUDY IS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT

What the fuck was Bobs goal? What was he trying to accomplish by getting the coordinates?

>>87407965
He wanted a kiss from mommy

>>87407965
He wanted to get into Judy's world to get the most garmonbozia he ever could and rape everybody

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I used to have a recurring dream where I'm going to my high school for a dance. The school looks like a giant freighter ship but no one including myself cares. A little later on I have to stop Team Rocket from planting a bomb.

dreams are weird

>>87407453
>all the other mythos thrown in there with electricity and the experiment is tough fit into the same frame
I take them as part of Laura's dream, all the weird shit that happen is just weird shit that happens in a dream like the coin trick guy, the disease, the accountant going crazy, etc

>>87407965
He wanted to join Judy. With their combined strengh, they could rule over the galaxy

>>87407965
I guess he wanted to destroy white lodge or something?

>>87407453
The world and the lore of TP is just too big to be a dream of one girl

>>87397219
I don't think she was possessed until Judy came through the box.

>>87410346
... in 1954

>>87410110
dude is a dream, dreams are crazy a world in itself that dissapears when you wake up

>>87406712
I'm pretty sure Bad Coop just wanted to be a dick and stay in reality, or the TP's world or whatever you consider it. He certainly didn't want to head to a lodge or alternate world.
All of his scheming revolved around killing Coop and taking his place, in any case. He didn't really do anything unrelated to that on-screen.

>>87406800
>>87407453
I believe that this was the intention at the start, but it obviously changed at some point. For example, Leland acts a lot more ambiguous in FWWM about whether he's aware of his actions or not - and even BOB's presence isn't clear in the original series. He can be interpreted as the evil within individuals, but also as an evil spirit. But I think that The Return went too far with the lore for any of this to make sense anymore. I personally can't agree with trying to explain everything supernatural as being a dream or having some explanation; some of it is simply supernatural phenomena.

>>87411674
well all explanantions are valid according to Lynch so fill the gaps as you want my good anon

>>87391401
Would have been nice not to sit through 16.5 hours of bullshit to find that out.

>>87391401
>This was always meant to be the ending. Not the specific thing that happened, but it being a mystery without resolution. You can't resolve it.

In other words, a story by a hack.

Lynchtards should all be murdered.

>>87413987
It won't save Twin Peaks, but it would feel good.

>>87391680
Laura's smile is more downward on top. It's like you don't even love Laura

>>87406920
have you not watched the original seasons? twin peaks is max camp

>>87398865
Season 3 feels like an exercise in how far you can remove stuff from a TV show, and still have it be considered as a TV show.

They've removed the music it was known for and replaced it with ethereal whooshing, removed closure for plot lines, kept in long scenes, and prioritize long artsy shots over anything.

>inb4 Lynched
I enjoyed it though.

>>87389869
yup, this was made without season 4 in mind, that was the ending, anyone thinking otherwise is a fucking retard

>>87401543
Probably the pleb ending where Freddy punches BOB