Was Maris ever shown? What did she look like?

Based on the various descriptions of Maris and the fact that Niles used a skinny greyhound as a substitute when he was divorcing her, I can imagine her as being a very frail, pale, and malnourished white woman.

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>>87382822
this was the only glimpse we were ever offered of her

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>>87382907
I think the real joke is Maris is to Lilith as Niles is to Frasier.

>>87382822
Never shown. In my mind, an Anna Wintour type.

>>87383172
Maris was a hybrid joke of Lilith and Norm's unseen wife Vera from Cheers.

But there was definitely a bit of Niles' one-upmanship there. Fraiser married a skinny, snobby, bossy, pale woman so Niles married a skinnier, snobbier, bossier, paler woman.

>>87383341
Also, considering how the plot plays out with her dangling the divorce over him, Mel was a decent stand-in for Maris without ruining, as you said, the Vera joke of the series.

reunion when?

>>87383522
God i hope not. No thanks.

>>87383341
>>87383444

Interesting lore.

Where is the upvote button here?

>>87382907
She used to be fat (over 300 pounds) but then went through an anorexic phase.

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>>87383594
There really is no better brother casting in history.

>>87382822

Maris' shadow is seen in the cruise ship episode. Roz mistakes her for a coat rack until she starts moving.

>>87383341

We see Vera in the thanksgiving episode. She has pie on her face so you can't tell what she looks like but you see her entire body and her eyes. It ruined the joke.

>>87383172
pale girls are my fetish

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>that music
>that intro
>the shows atmosphere
>his voice
>the ending theme

Name a comfyer show

>>87382822
Oh man, all three Crane men got cucked by their women.

>>87382822
Why did they reveal that Maris was actually Ros all along in that one episode, but never refer to that again.

>>87384298
>Lilith got cucked by having her 2nd husband turning out to be gay
>Frasier cucked even harder when Niles sleeps with Lilith

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>>87384313
Forgot pic

>>87383172
Lilith is my skelefu.

>>87384313
Plz.

It's Maris > young Daphne> powergap Lilith> Old Daphne > Mel >powergap > Nanny G > powergap > Roz

It's fact

>>87384445
What about fat daphne?

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>>87384445
Daphne aged like fine wine.

>>87384555
Nanny G > powergap > Fat Daphne > powergap > Roz

>>87384616

>your dad has a better hairline than you and your younger brother

>>87382822
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuYPmVanT2U

>>87383172
Maris and Lilith aren't even friends, much less having a close bickering sibling relationship. In fact, Lilith made fun of Niles and Maris's marriage and Maris's vows in particular.

See literally the first Maris episode in Frasier season 1.

>>87383172
fraiser was such a fag for not wanting to smash lillith

>>87385646
Been there, done that.