Who is the best Wire character and why is it Frank Sobotka?

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>>87364353
Did they say Kurwa even once?

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bunk is the best wire character

FUCK YOU

AND YOUR WINDOW

>>87364353
Muh union
Muh docks

He literally did nothing (everything) wrong, he was just looking out for people that depended on him

His sons gf had a nice rack

Frank was the only criminal on the show whose motivations were purely benevolent. He was trying to help the people around him in his union and in his family and unlike the other drug kingpins he wasn't doing it for personal gain.

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>>87364353

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Fuck you, its Cutty
Goes straight, helps kids and slams milfs.

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>>87364353
at least you got the season right

BLUE STEEL, GENTLEMEN

three and a half inches of blue steel

>>87364403
What's an ass dick?

valchek is the best character

>>87364487
>Giving
>alcohol
>to
>a
>duck

>>87364487
Why do people like this idiot?

>>87364613
>literally every single person on the show hates Valchek
>he ends up police commissioner

pure kino

>>87364613
*gets punched*

>>87364741
>*gets sucker punched*

ftfy

>>87364449
Uncle, not son. Otherwise you're right, they were surprisingly great.

>>87364613
Why was he so obsessed with muh window?

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>>87364613

>>87364938
Daniels' reaction is one of the best faces ever made on television

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>not this suave motherfucker

Step your game up

>>87364829
Oh yeah

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>>87364776
>>87364978

>>87364938
What a great show

>>87364938
Saved for fapping

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>>87365062
That guy was based on the real Jay Landsman, who was a Baltimore homicide detective and the protagonist of Simon's first book, Homicide: Life on the Street which was also turned into a tv show and on that show Landsman was the inspiration for Detective John Munch, who would also appear on Law and Order SVU. The real Jay Landsman was actually on The Wire, it was this guy

I always wonder why Simon decided to depict his close friend with this fat fuck

>>87364672
He's a loser, a clown and seems mildly autistic. He's 4chan the character

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>>87365166
>and on that show Landsman was the inspiration for Detective John Munch, who would also appear on Law and Order SVU. The real Jay Landsman was actually on The Wire, it was this guy

in addition to all this there's a scene in The Wire where John Munch makes a cameo, and he's sitting at the same bar as Jay Landsman/Lieutenant Mello

what a mindfuck

>>87364865
It wasn't about the window really. He was a loser in the Polish community, then he got in bed with the city and decided every Polak should worship him but they still think he's a loser. Sobotka's window is just a representation of that

>>87364672
I sure like that idiot

>>87365166
The real Jay auditioned for himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRNm21GWEJY

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>>87364353
Because this scene was pure concentrated kino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMe-3jFdwLY

Lester>everyone else

>>87365206
Never thought about it this way but you're right anon

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>>87364353
Season 2 was such a fucking great season, I couldn't believe it when they went straight back in Season 3 to the gangshit.

Do Poles really have a communitylike the fucking Irish in Boston?

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>>87365507
???

>>87365404
The feels anon

Why is season 2 the best?

>>87365569
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Poles_in_Baltimore

>>87365751
Because you're a hipster and you read that normies dislike it

>>87365801
Not him, but on my first watch I couldn't get into season 2. I was still invested in the street story and wasn't ready for the sudden divergence. On rewatch I'm loving every scene. It just works. Frank and his nephew are great, the Greek and crew are great, and it still keeps up with the most interesting people in the streets crew.

It also has some top tier McNulty and bunk

>>87365751
Because of Sobotka

>>87364938
That sack of shit had it coming.

>>87365997
IMO S1 drops you right into the amazing story and you're invested from the go, S2 starts luke-warm but gets better and better and better
IIRC S2 is also where McNulty figures out that one of the Jane Does who fell off the boat belongs under Rawls' jurisdiction, right?
>spending a working day doing amazing police work to make life harder for the guy who fucked you over

>>87364865
>>87365328
I always though it's more about Valcheck being an old-fashioned guy. Racial tensions were nothing new to his generation, they most likely faced with it growing up. Not to mention their parents, who were often 1st gen immigrants.

Because of these they were taught (willingly or not) to represent their people "properly", even if it means going into pity arguments. Plus Polaks known to be very religious, so Temples (and thus their windows) are valuable to them.

>>87366177
I really don't think he wanted to get his window up there because of his love of the Polish community or wanting to represent them properly (cause if he did, why would he care about HIS window being the one that gets fitted?) I think it's fairly obvious it's just a status symbol how much money he spent on it

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>mfw every single so called critic missed the meta narrative of season 5

>>87366236
The one where David Simon goes REEEEEE NEWSPAPERS ARE SHIT AND ALSO THE JOURNALIST WHO MADE SHIT UP IS MY OLD BOSS SUCK IT?

>tfw all the stringer bell, avon and d'angelo tension

that was my shit.

>>87366286
Sounds like you missed it too anon ;)

>>87366236
Maurice > Saul

I liked the waitress at the beginning of S3

>>87366231
Exactly. Maybe I should have worded better, but I never doubted that his reasons were personal. In my experience, people around that age often like to flip the narrative to support their current opinion or agenda.

I agree Valcheck indeed wanted his windows because it's a status symbol, but also because it's a(n objective) achievement. Which gives him the powerful "I did it for the Polish community" card, even if it's a lie.

>>87366599
Do you have a picture?

>>87366236

I kinda remember there was that whole legal clusterfuck with him in S5. He found out about McNulty's illegal wiretap, and the DA found out he had been using leaked court documents to warn his clients, so the lawyers did a deal to cover up their respective malfeasances. Not sure that really qualifies as a meta-narrative so much as just a minor plot point. Everybody already knew Levy was a scumbag by then.

>>87366236
>>87366303
Wut

>>87364938
still couldnt drop the old man

>>87364490
true. I couldn't see what was so attractive about Cutty but maybe black women could

>>87365569

used to be, especially in Chicago, but those old ethnic neighbourhoods are all broken up as whites move out to the suburbs

>>87364978
except the ever classic weebey

>>87368443

basically he was a new single black guy in the neighbourhood who didn't seem like a total piece of shit

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>>87365062
ahhhaaha YES! I love this fat waste of space. He was so disgusting that he almost was not possible to exist in the real world

>>87366599
>>87366846
I think he means the one where McNulty crashes his car twice and then goes for eggs and coffee, and she says "you can have whatever you want" and they fuck

>>87367517
>>87367701
The narrative that every critic missed about the newspaper storyline was not was in it, the lying journalist, but what wasn't in it, namely all the major plotlines from the rest of the show. Carcetti's machinations, the problems with the police department, the drug war battles, etc. were all completely missed by the newspaper. The meta aspect is that all those stories basically happened in the real life Baltimore in one form or another in the early to mid 2000s, and the real life Baltimore Sun completely failed to cover them too.

>>87368543
>didn't seem like a total piece of shit
lol since when did that ever earn points with women? He was still broke. Doing good, especially when it's letting black kids into gym and training for free, doesn't get you any money. Fruit was more a guy women might go for imo

>>87369170
oh, i just dismissed that as non-pertinent

>>87364353
La Machina

>>87364978
my personal favorite is the face he makes when they're trying to get his desk through the office door and he realizes they've been working against each other

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Ok here's a complaint I have I haven't heard anyone else say. From seasons 1 to 3 they explain how important it is that the drug dealers have phones to conduct business, hence why they risk getting wiretapped. We see the systems they use to try and evade police detection, how the police exploit weaknesses in their systems, all good stuff.

But then we get to season 4, and Prop Joe just tells Marlo "man cell phones are too dangerous, stop using them." And Marlo does, and there is zero consequences to that. We never see how say having to arrange all communications face to face negatively effects his business. It just makes everyone before him look like a moron for not taking this apparently consequence free step.

>>87370031
Is this the thing where pretty much all of TV is a coma dream by that kid in St. Elsewhere?

>>87365206
You took the words right out of my mouth.

He went school shooter in that one scene.

Fuck maui tho

>>87365062
john cena should lay off fries.

i applaud simon for unintentionally spilling the guts about your average democrat-run city.

Omar obviously

>The Wire: The definitive edition
>No added material, just season 2 deleted

>>87371148
>Omar
The plebbest of pleb answers.

>>87364399
they're not polish. they're polish american.

>>87364403
an obesse drunk? fuck no

>>87371148
>>87371284
Omar is the best

stop being a contrarian

>>87365062
Fat John Cena

>>87370031
there was pretty big difference how marlo ran his crew compared to avon and stringer who micromanaged everything. meanwhile marlos just killing people to ensure shit gets done. he seemed pretty hands off and only intervened at the point of no return.

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Most underrated character? Most underrated character

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>>87371906
>tfw he goes from YEAH LETS BUST SOME HEADS to actual good po-lice work after Bunny's mentorship

>>87371906
Kinda sucks that he died on Planet P, but at least he got to go out with a bang

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>>87371956
That scene where he gives Bodie and his crew shit was one of my favorites.

>>87372142
Go fuck yourself with a 40 shitbreath!

>NATURAL PO-LICE

>>87365507
Why is Kima asian?

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>>87364353
Was this Method acting?

For all the attention Omar's unexpected death gets, I found Frank's death far more tragic and saddening.

>>87373827
Omar's death is like "oh that's just the streets, he never expected differently" but Sobotka is a respected member of society who just tried to do good for his failing industy
Fuck

>>87373827
You knew it was happening when he walked under that bridge in the rain but it was still a fucking shock when they opened up the season finale by pulling his body from the water. The Greeks were ruthless, fucking dumping his body right outside the Patapsco Terminal, you don't fuck with them

WMD

>>87372142
the scene where he yells "keep it fuckin movin" and "fuck you!" at the truck legit cracks me up every time

youtube.com/watch?v=ioPMZQyIwxc

>>87374006
Man I don't think Frog realizes he's white

>>87372142
Where's the love Bodie? Where is the motehrfucking love?

Bodie is the GOAT character, I don't care what anyone else says. His arc was fantastic

I think the docs were just comfy as fuck.

>>87373905
Not to mention the wheels of all that started because Valchek was a petty fucker who started an investigation over stained glass.

>it's a plebs hate on Marlo episode because "muh stringer" or "muh avon"

marlo was literally was the best villain in the entire series, far better than either of those cucks, just a coldblooded nog who didn't give a fuck

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>>87374070
right on second though this is the best character on the wire

>>87373905
>trying to save a dead industry when the world has moved on and it's time to pack it up and get a new education and move the fuck on

>>87374487
I alwayss thought it was kind of silly how the season starts with the young guys complaining about not getting any work because muh seniority when they're the ones who could most easily get another job
But nope gotta sling them drugs

>>87374570
the stupid mentality of stupid people. Working class will stay working class

>>87374700
Oh I didn't expect them to magically get an education and white collar jobs (where would they get the money from?) but surely they could become construction workers or some shit
I hear construction in Baltimore was big at the time, what with those new condos going up at the harbor!

So what did McNulty do next?

YELLOW TOP

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>>87374854

>>87365801
no niggers

>>87365507
3>1>5>2>4

>>87374854
he has a show on Shotime about having an affair

>>87364672
He was the best character on Generation Kill so he gets a pass

>>87374854
Maximus' wife

Why did they show that Rawls was gay?

>>87375643
It was the early 00s, faggotry was the hip and cool thing to have on TV.

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>FIVE-O!

>>87374854
He stars in Ostlund's new movie-The Square(which has also won the Palm d'Or at Cannes)