/tpg/ - Twin Peaks General

The whole thing was worth it for episode 8 alone.

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>>87360399
Was she looking for Chip?

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>all these plebs thinking lynch was behind this ending

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I have so many questions, where does the dream end and reality begin? Was everything a dream?? Have I been Lynched???

I want Sheryl Lee to let me eat her asshole

last scene was a dream

laura in 1989 is the dreamer

cooper asks what year is it

laura's mother calls out to her from the waking world

laura recognizes her mother's voice and realize she's dreaming

she screams and wakes up back in 1989 the morning they would have found her body had cooper not had changed the past

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>>87360399
lewd photos of her

The whole season is mired in plot holes and un-ended subplots and you guys think it can be explained?

This was hot fucking garbage, a "fuck you" to his fans.

WE are Jerry Horne, filling ourselves up with drugs going on misguided adventures into the woods to look for meaning, thinking this intoxicated state will bring anything to our life. We put so much importance on small, stupid, insignificant things that he just shoves in there. Things like our leg feeling weird, or thinking our binoculars killed a guy, as if there's any connection those things have on the real story.

In the end, we're just lost naked babies waiting for our brother to pick us up.

And yeah Lynch is parodying capeshit, Tarantino and probably a lot of other movies and directors. This wasn't Twin Peaks, this was a statement.

>>87360477
You live inside a dream

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I did think 2 timelines was the credible explanation for Cooper's last scene.

>Coop gets sent back to save Laura
>Laura is saved by Coop and taken away from inevitable death
>Timeline is saved
- life continues as normal
- Sarah Palmer's demon stuck in human form
>But older Coop and Texan Laura are now stuck in the timeline they were in initially

BILLY

WHAT ABOUT BILLY

>>87360481
THIS HOLY FUCK

WHY DID LYNCH RELEGATE HER TO ONLY TWO EPISODES

itt reductionists reducing

>it's the copypasta squad

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friendly reminder that doppelcoop did nothing wrong and Cooper was the real fuck-up the entire time

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>>87360514
Am I also apart of Lynch's hellish dreamworld? That wouldn't be very nice

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>>87360399
>mfw lynch introduces yet another useless, pointless, character

One for the grandkids

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>>87360481
It's perfect

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What if Cooper gave all his chirpy and positive traits to Dougie when he asked Mike to make a tulpa of him?

Maybe something has to be sacrificed when you create them, and that would expain why Cooper isn't himself in Part 18, he sacrificed a part of himself for Janey-E and Sonny Jim.

It clearly didn't turn him evil, and it didn't make him stop caring about people and helping others, but it made him cold to it as if the only thing driving that is intuition and not the personality. He's very focused on his mission in Part 18 but it's not showing.

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FIND _________

Characters CONFIRMED to be reality/dimension/time breakers:

>Jeffries
>MIKE
>BOB
>Cooper
>Leland
>Laura
>Major Briggs
>The Fireman
>Judy
>Jumping man
>Annie
>Ms. Tremond

Characters that could be:
>Sarah
>Audrey

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What a stunning and evocative episode this was visually.

>>87360642
BLACK

>>87360620
Cooper is back to Janey-E. Cooper send his Tulpa to find Laura

>>87360642
Why did he look like he was about to shit himself

>>87360645
Who was the 1956 girl that had a cockroach in her mouth then?

Are judy/"the mother"/jumping man the same entity ?

1989 lol

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Sheryl Lee is wonderful in every way imaginable

>>87360695
Sarah Palmer

>>87360719
All I've seen her in is TP, anything else worth watching?

>>87360695
The cockaroacha was Jowday.
The girl was Sarah.

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:3

>>87360567
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE I'm still mad that we wasted time on Becky and Steven, who were actually pretty interesting characters, for literally no reason. Both characters presumably die off screen and affects no one and nothing.

I enjoyed this season a lot but it should have been 9 episodes. I didnt even mind the long repetitive scenes, that's kino. What isn't kino are plot lines that get half developed, then we're supposed to pretend like they never existed.

>>87360661
can someone post that shot from outside the motel it made me CUM

Also, this episode was empty. you get me? It was like a metaphysical journey through a world that was more like a theater stage. No clutter. It was a pure odyssey. Like a dream.

>>87360488
true

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>>87360475
We really got FROSTED, didn't we? Now we're going to have to buy his new book, The Final Dossier.

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>>87360744
John Carpenter's Vampires
Love, Lies and Murder
Follow the River
Mother Night

All of the above are worth watching though Follow the River is the weakest link

Haven't got LYNCHED by the new season since the beginning, but I got LYNCHED so hard by the ending I don't even know what happens anymore

Season 1
>Coop is trapped in a dying body
Season 2
>Coop is trapped in hell dimension
Season 3
>Coop is trapped in a dying pocket/dream universe

This guy just can't catch a break.

>>87360682
I know this isn't true but I believe it anyway.

>>87360785
when was the last time we saw becky even? i can't remember

>>87360561
wdymbt

>>87360785

How do they die ? Don't remember anything about this. I think they were shit characters and the worst part of S3, if not the only bad one.

>>87360806
We're all trapped in dying bodies

>>87360695

Sarah, but unlike Laura and Leland, we haven't seen her spirit on any realm.

She could only be a host.

>>87360695
>>87360748
But then wouldn't she have been evil way before any of the events that unfolded in '89 or the early '90s?
She would have been even even before Bob infected Leland Palmer?

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Las Vegas plotline was the most fleshed out and well written plotline in the entire season.
Prove me wrong

>>87360857
based existentialism poster

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmSqnicewRo

Did anyone point out that when Coop, Gordon and Diane went to the Great Northern, they were already in some lodge fuckery? It was 2:53 in the sheriff's office when they just kind of appeared out of the darkness into the Great Northern basement.

>>87360832
when she went to eat pie at the diner?

What if there is no other timeline?
What if the world Cooper stepped into was, in fact, the same?
When watching Part 18 I got that feeling that none of the "new world" I was seeing was real, it didn't even feel real because of Coop's strange and unusual behaviour and his indifference to it.
We know Judy/The Mother abducted Laura before Coop was able to take her home in 1989. She then put her in a place in Odessa and altered everything to make believe Cooper that his timeline (TP season 1, 2, 3) was lost forever and that he'll never RETURN.
We don't know the nature or the extent of Judy's power but my belief is that she can somehow "cover" the reality we know with whatever suits her plans. So she covered the real world with what I'd call a "Veil", erasing Laura's identity and her life in the process using an artifice (The Dream). The Veil, as I intend it, is a direct alteration she does to the world in order to impeach any action Cooper might do against her. Judy is the Dreamer because she's the only being capable of manipulating reality and makes it seem like a dream.
1/2

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>>87360789
> It was like a metaphysical journey through a world that was more like a theater stage. No clutter. It was a pure odyssey. Like a dream.

I definitely feel you. Especially Cooper out in the desert, this vast landscape around him, his suit blowing in the wind. I can't explain it, but it feels like they're the only people in the world at that moment.

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Was this fantastic, non-wasted, well developed, compelling, robust, completely relevant "character" a metaphor for the audience?

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>>87360477
So, what does he long to see through the darkness of future's past?

>>87360875
>las vegas
>all plotlines are closed
>twin peaks
>all plotlines are left open

what did they mean by this?

>>87360832
The last time we see her, she calls Shelly about how Steven is missing. Shelly tells her to come to the RR but we never see that.

>>87360836
Steven kills himself in the woods with his gf (off-screen), but before that he mumbles something about doing something bad to a woman, which I take to mean that he killed Becky, although it could be interpreted differently.

>>87360898
grace zabriskie is so fucking scary
she even freaked me out in seinfeld

>>87360857
Universe too

>>87360898
that was such a spooky scene

What plot points were left unresolved?

>>87360908
Here's another thing, Cooper tried to save Laura but he didn't erase the world or displaced into another timeline. Because Laura is an extra dimensional being created by the Fireman she is therefore eternally existing whether she's alive or dead ("I am dead yet I live" and the intact picture as Sarah's further proves it).
Carrie doesn't exist, she never had a life between 1989 and 2017, hell this name didn't even mean anything before Part 18.
The whole world post-430miles is a constructed illusion (The Twin Peaks' world Doppelganger) made by Judy to fool our two protagonists, but mostly the viewers.
In conclusion, that's the real LYNCHING I believe we had at the end of season 3.
2/2

>believing your petty ego shit matters in an incomprehensibly vast universe when you're really just another steven & becky blip

cooper gtfo

>>87360875
How can it be fleshed out, if the pissfu didn't get her flesh out of her clothes?

>>87360916
yes, i tried to explain the feeling i got from this ep the best i could. It's completely different from everything else in the season.

>>87360875
This is 100% true

>>87360922
It means the original plan for 9 episodes probably didn't have any twin peaks besides the sheriff, hawk, and Bobby, all the extra plot threads that went nowhere were added when they got the order for 18 episodes

>>87360898
what if Laura was erased by this?

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>>87360898
This to me has nothing to do with Judy, it was there to show us that what happened can't be undone.

She's trying to smash the portrait out of existence, erase the image of her daughter but nothing happens.

Judy is not what resides inside Sarah Palmer. She has something in her, but Judy is not an entity, it's just a force. Her personality may be fused with the jumping man, something is going on with her but to suggest she's an evil spirit is dumb to me, clearly the real Sarah is in there.

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What was the point of the drug-smuggling into Twin Peaks narrative? And the gangs? Another wasted character, another dead-end plotline, another contrived romance Lynch enforced upon the audience.

>>87360488
>she screams and wakes up back in 1989
so Leland/BOB can kill her later?
BRAVO COOP

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Are we not gonna talk about this? What are the implications?

>>87360664
GRANDMAS

It's not alternate timelines, but alternate realities.

>>87360960
>glass box (kind of)
>Red
>AH AH AH lady
>James and the guys wife
>Becky and Steven
>AUDREY

There's probably more.

>>87361056
Nah, it's the opposite. She's smashing the picture but the picture isn't ripping or being damaged in any way. She's trying to destroy Laura, but she can't.

Why is Julie Cruise so pissed off? Is it because Lynch dubbed over her vocals during the RH performance?

>>87360960
Why did the guy at the Lucky 7 pretend he enjoyed coffee?
How much will the redecoration of Wally's room cost?

>>87360477

The was a lot of commentary of TV itself. Lynch was
equating them being in a TV Show with being in a dream.
Then he fucks with the concept further by having the real
homeowner answer the door at Laura's house in Twin
Peaks.

When Cooper goes into the lodge and one-armed Mike
recites the Fire Walk With Me poem, Cooper has stepped
outside the linear narrative of TV. He then tries to go back
in time to pull Laura out of the show's narrative and take
her to safety, by Judy (which someone else figured out
means "The Explanation" in Chinese or whatever) fights
back and pulls Laura into another story line, complete with
mysteries, drama and murder. Cooper ignores all the
dramatic bait and tries to get Laura to remember who she
really is. Right at the end Laura does remember, and it
looks like they loop back to a moment where they originally
met in a dream/the black lodge.

>>87361067
I think in that theory, one punch chav killing BOB in the future also kills BOB in the past.

My personal theory is that Laura does wake up, but it's not in 1989.

>>87360796
What I love about LYNCHING is all these inferior intellects squabbling about their flawed theories and explanations; the real meaning and symbolism fly way over their heads. This place isn't too bad, but leddit is awful in this respect.

>>87361059
The scene takes place immediately after the scene where Cooper takes Laura's hand in the forest and her body is seen disappearing in the Pilot. It is followed up by the scene where Laura disappears from the forest.

>>87360960
Red, the drugs smuggling, the hordes of gangs roaming in and around Twin Peaks. No explanation for why everyone's child was running around drugged up, why Doc Hayward was out of country fishing while his daughter did drugs on the streets. Literally tens of characters who's plotline went nowhere and wasted screentime.

>>87361059
>Judy is not an entity

Cole literally tells Albert that Judy is an entity that there was a plan set in motion to destroy

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>>87360872

>>87360869
>>87360748
>>87360734

>people think FWWM doesn't make sense without the scenes that were deleted
>people prefer the fan edit to the film Lynch released in cinemas
Explain.

theme of the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B22EVG7wsMQ

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>>87361127
This is the most sensible explanation I've heard so far, now I get it thank you anone

>>87361109
She sounds ungrateful to me, she used to be angry that Lynch and Badalamenti were the ones that wrote the music for her to sing over, she was upset at her level of involvement and they had a falling out.

Then she comes back and now she's upset her scene wasn't long enough and that they dubbed her.

It's like fuck you you ungrateful cunt, you are famous because of Badalamenti and Lynch, why are you such a crybaby? He did nothing but advance your career. Same can be said for Sherilynn Fenn, why do these people feel so entitled as if Lynch owes them anything.

>>87360700
the pointy nosed frogroach tells us they are linked, if not identical

>>87361063
this desu.
so many things dont really add up to the experience and are introduced just to waste time, especially if you think of it as being the last season of the show. i enjoyed this season but the ending was an absolute shitshow i can't really recommend it to anyone i know

>>87361120
Green tea was weed tea

>>87360561
loved the ending but he deserved better, didn't he? At least he was born again in Richard Cooper

>>87361127
hey not bad anon. not bad at all.
really explains why he didn't care about the dead guy in carrie's house

>>87360904
I was wondering about that scene transition. Seemed off.

>>87361218
Fenn wasn't angry tho.

>>87361067
25 year comma for Laura too?

Bravo Lunch

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>>87360960
Why was Harvey such an asshole to Chip and Hank?

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What was his tax policy, tpg?

>>87360872

She's shown to be "evil" or related to the lodge in Season 2

"I'm in the Black Lodge with Dale Cooper"

>>87361228
I watched every episode leading up to 17 & 18 at least twice. I can't bring myself to watch 17 & 18 again, or the series.

Lynch won.

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>>87361294
what is up with this series and introducing bald men that never are relevant again?

>>87361167
Yes. First we see Pete go fishing, showing us some dimension where her murder didn't take place then a jarring cut to the Palmer house which is in total dismay still, showing us that the impacts of her death are still palpable, nothing was undone, Sarah grabs that photo and tries destroying it, destroying Laura but she doesn't make a dent, there's no undoing it.

The following scene shows Laura torn away from Cooper, he can't change anything, his attempt birthed some bizarro universe that we get to see in Part 18, but nobody was saved.

>>87361313
Even minor characters like this in the original run had meaning. What the fuck was Lynch thinking with this season?

>>87360960
>Audrey
>Red
>Bobby/Shelly/their daughter
>Ben's assistant's husband or whatever the fuck that was
>Real vs tulpa Diane, what was real/fabricated
>What was the bug/frog?

>>87361127
I like this.

>>87361360
the timelines are split

>>87361095
>glass box
Everything that needed to be known is known
>Red
Just to show criminality (evil) in Twin Peaks will always be there, and that Shelly will always fall for the wrong guys. Nothing more needed to be resolved.
>AH AH AH lady
who?
>James and the guys wife
Served the purpose of him and glovelad getting to the sherrif's departement, while also showing he still falls for the ones he can't have
>Becky and Steven
How was this not resolved? They're both dead, how much more closure do you need?
>AUDREY
There's enough clues, you need to figure it out. Audrey's arc holds a lot of clues to the entire plot.

Why would you need every single thing to be explained and chewed out for you?

>>87361375
>Real vs tulpa Diane, what was real/fabricated

This was one of the only things that got a resolution

>>87361355
There are easily over 20 characters that are never relevant. And not only that, their plotlines aren't resolved. 18 episodes was a mistake - all we got was filler.

>>87361276
She isn't now, but did you not follow her twitter back in 2014 and 15? All she did was complain and cry about her involvement not being satisfactory to her, that Kyle was the only one getting any love from Lynch.

To her credit, she realized she was acting like an entitled cunt and stopped.

>>87360795
Also see

https://youtu.be/H5sE6AC5zu4

>>87361412
Fenn's a bit unstable, can't really blame her.

>>87361069
many machines on Ix....

>>87361344
this has always been twin peaks for me, since the start. it has some AMAZING pure kino moments, but also has some seriously shitty crappy poorly done college student shit.

its always been like this desu, but the series stands out because there is NOTHING that even remotely gives you the same feeling as Twin Peaks does. you do have other tv series that vary as wildly in quality as TP, but man, when TP is good it is pure art. its not some market driven shit, its just really fucking good.

i don't even know if i like it anymore, i just know it's something special.

>>87361247

Yep, even writing it out made me think Diane
disappearing was another Judy "Drama Trap".
Anything to get Cooper distracted and caught
up in a new TV Show-style storyline.

>>87361365
he was having a giggle.

What if Judy is a spirit which exist outside of or somehow supersedes the residents of the Black Lodge?

>>87361069
Lynch likes machines in black and white.

loved the return and fucking loved the finale.

the end starts as a pleb finale, with autistic explanation of powerful entities and anime battle between several punches lad and the orb of evil.

then it becomes pure art-kino

you really get a sense of character using inexplicable powers against an unexplicable force.

did the good or bad guys won?

evidence for the good guys winning:

-Sarah going crazy and being unable to damage Laura's picture.
-Cooper fulliflls all of the fireman prophecies
-He wakes Laura up

evidence for the bad guys winning:

- the mood at the end, the way laura screams

>>87361360

When Sarah destroyed the portrait, did she have gray hair or brown as S1?

>>87361095
>AH AH AH lady
She turned out to be the real Diane transformed into an eyeless asian lady because Lynch has a race fetish, she was talking in weird animal sounds because she was being "transmitted" to the Tulpa.

>>87361069
Lynch really likes electricity as a metaphor for an all-controlling force because of how reliant modern society is on it.

>>87361171
there is nothing to explain. did you want to see andy and bobe shutdown a drug operation?

>>87361375
Then what was that about in Argentina?

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theoryfags btfo

>>87361228
I'm not gonna say you're wrong, or whether or not the execution of it is successful. But if you listen to Lynch talk about Twin Peaks and why he loved it, you'll soon realize that he loved it because of the world, not because of the plot. He never wanted the murder solved, he just wanted to portray a town where things happened.

Fans have imbued so much importance on season 3, as if coming back means you have to owe it by making everything really significant and having high stakes. I'm sure you're not a Dougie hater, but a lot of people were unable to enjoy him at first because that is the exact mindset they had, expecting everything to have a greater meaning in the context of Twin Peaks, when all Lynch wanted to do was step back into a world and let that world just breathe and exist, not worry about justifying everything he does in it.

Now, I understand that not everything was consistent, there are valid reasons for being upset about certain sub plots not being further explored, but I think overall fans would enjoy it more if they stopped thinking everything is meant to have a grandeur importance.

>>87361485
Heh, nice

>>87361365
Because you can't see the meaning of a character it's not there?

>>87361584
>that face

Top Kek

>>87361402
I'm talking about Diane's memories. Was she actually raped by Mr. C? Or was that implanted into the tulpa?

The Twin Peaks universe is affected by Time jumpers (Cooper) and reality jumpers (The Lodge Spirits)

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>>87361143
>BOB is dead
then show me his body

>>87361127
The more I think about this season in toto, I think it was a sixteen-hour prologue to a one-hour episode and a one-hour epilogue, more or less. I feel its purpose was to show us that we are all trapped in a mindset rooted in 20th century narrative, and something more random and multi-track is closer to the mark. We know we've hit the coordinates when we begin to feel uncomfortable. When Cooper asks "What year is this?" I don't think he's asking what year he's inhabiting; rather, he's questioning our expectations of the narrative, our demands for clarity and a happy ending - even a satisfying reunion. Why did we want to go back to a murder scene? What did we want to undo? Or do?

>>87361559
perfect

>>87360399
Was Red a red herring?

>>87361585
i dont hate dougie, but fuck me i wanted more time with coop. i dont think everything is meant to have grandeur importance, but i do expect plot points that are introduced to be developed and worth my time.

here's what twin peaks was during almost 20 episode:
>introduce plot point
>dont develop it further
>introduce another plot point
>dont develop it further
>show scene that ends up being meaningless
>introduce character that doesnt matter and is just a waste of time
>never see that person again
>include random details that don't matter, don't add to the scene or the character and will never be brought up again
>waste a shitload of time on these details

i mean, episode 8 was pure kino but what the fuck, was lynch on coke during the whole filming/writing process?

>>87361069
I feel like it was to awe us with the amount of power the White Lodge actually has, and convey how much power it took to redirect Mr C from the Palmer house (Judy) to the Sheriff Station.

>http://screenrant.com/twin-peaks-season-3-finale-ending-explained/

This kind of makes sense. If there's no season 4 this may be what I go with.

>>87361670
WOW PASTA WOW

>>87361605
>re-explores ideas from other Lynch works
Like what?

To be fair Lynch did provide an ending for all the people that expect a neat wrap-up to the entire series. Just stop watching after Jack Nance's fishing scene.

>>87360475
>>87360793
The ending was absolutely Lynch. If 17 had been the ending it would've been frost.

The final dossier is about what happens between season 2 and the return. It will provide no closure for the ending, don't get your hopes up.

>>87361549
>Lynch really likes electricity as a metaphor for an all-controlling force because of how reliant modern society is on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEqhiC4zcGA

>>87361654
S H O W B O B

>>87361702
>the hastily introduced time travel is not only a convenient plot device, but also a convenient tool for explaining every little wacky aspect of The Return

I'm not a fan

>>87361744
A woman in trouble.

>>87361744
metempsychosis is the most obvious one, explored in dougie & richard / linda / carrie plots but also in Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive

Did Diane get dicked so hard she transported into the lodge?

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>>87361683

>>87360872
Maybe everything that happened with Laura was just to ruin Sarah's life, to turn her into a feast of garmonbozia, to feed the bug, to allow Judy to emerge

Laura met Annie, the man from the other side and Cooper before her death via dreaming.

So, is the Dream World the Black Lodge, or dreaming is just another way to reach the Black lodge?

>when Laura recognizes Cooper in the forest
;_;

>>87361751
By that logic, Twin Peaks provided a neat little ending after Laura's murder was solved, with bob's survival simply standing for the idea that "there will always be evil in the world"

>>87361559
kek

>>87361744
>>87361878
the quote "We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives in the dream" was also used in promotional material for Inland Empire, the idea of dreaming a reality is in a lot of his works, although generally there is a subordinate and superior reality which isn't the case here.

>>87361654
Evil Coop seem alive and chilling in the lodge, even if he is burning

>>87361535
Really good summary.

Also the lights going out could be good or bad.

>>87361516
She would have to as she was the one that kept making different dreams/realities. If not then she is at least the most powerful of the them.

>>87361970
Yes it is.

Lodges and Giant's house, the blind lady's space are all "superior" realities to the "TwinPeaksS3reality"

>>87361550

I wouldn't have minded it.

>>87361683
what scenes were meaningless

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Who was your favourite minor character this season?

Part 17: End of The Return
Part 18: Season 4 pitch

Could it be any more obvious?

>>87361904
thats nicely horrible so it may be true

>>87362041
No.

So was there any hard confirmation that Booper killed Briggs? Or is that just what makes the most sense.

what was Mr C endgame in your opinion?

I think he was just trying to figure everything out. BOB was with him for the ride and the fun. I think he wanted access to Naido as she acted sort of a portal through different timelines and universes

>>87362041
this

>>87360869
>we haven't seen her spirit on any realm.
Yes, we have. It is the white creature with devil things in its head.

>>87361904
Or maybe she was Judy since she swallowed the bug, and because she was Laura's mother, Laura was chosen to be the "one" that would sacrifice herself to allow BOB to enter the world through Leland and spread from Twin Peaks.

>>87362029
anything involving jerry, ben horne and most of the old cast that were just included for no fucking reason besides the fact that they were in previous seasons.

the whole gang plotline, audrey's son, the audrey scenes...

i even feel like re-editing all the episodes into a shorter 10 episode removing all the fucking filler.

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>>87362080
he didn't

>>87361998
>Lodge is literally dreamt up by Dale Cooper and filled with subconscious details related to the case he is investigating
>Somehow its "superior" to Twin Peaks reality
give 1 good reason why it is other than "i feel like it is because its weird and has spiritual / religious beings in it"

I would love a season 4, but at the same time it would devalue the perfect finale

>>87362085
BOB just wanted to keep from going back into the black lodge and the doppelganger wanted to continue to survive.

He had someone watching the cube in NY to watch out for Cooper coming after him, or alternatively, Judy/The experiment, who he probably believed had the power to override the rules and give him enough power himself to stop Cooper and stay out of the lodge.

>>87362126
>briggs' head was missing because it literally went to another dimension
lynch's humor is the best

>>87361069
it's slippery in here

>>87362041
>Has never seen anything by Lynch before

>>87362122
fucking L Y N C H E D

>>87362142
why did he want the coordinates?

>>87362041

I don't think Lynch and Frost were naive enough to bank on a fourth season after this one. They have both been in the business for long enough to know better.

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Based

>>87361069
each bell is for a separate universe

>>87362135
No it's fucking not dreamt up by Cooper. It exist without him and we see it without him tons of times. Dumb anon.

>>87362192
Access to the place where he could kill any lodge spirits trying to help Cooper.

When the Palmer house occupant said Tremond & Chalfont, I felt true dread

>>87362173
Explain. Every Lynch film (except maybe Inland Empire) had a very conclusive ending.

Posted this in the last thread just as it died, so I'll post it again here. Please tell me how retarded I am.

I think the 'dream' isn't meant to be taken literally, but it's more a reflection of what the world of Twin Peaks is from the perspective of the lodge spirits; a story to be watched, a fantasy, a 'fiction', etc. It's still 'real' as far as those living in it are concerned, but the lodge spirits see it differently, like a book they can open on any page and 'rewrite' (apparent 'time travel'). They're even shown watching the events of the world on theatre and tv screens, and I guess garmonbozia is like the 'entertainment' they receive from watching (creamed corn = popcorn?).

This is probably going too far with the analogy but whatever; the lodge spirits are like writers/fans of the same story who want to take it in different directions. The white lodge are the original 'writers/fans' of the story and want the comfy soap opera that the more mellow parts of seasons 1 and 2 seemed to be. The black lodge and Judy are other beings who were attracted by the darker side of it (the atomic bomb) and seek to expand on that darker side, influencing events in season 1 and 2 until they take over in season 3. Laura was 'written in' by the white lodge as a pure character to counteract the influence of the black lodge but the attempt failed as they corrupted her/killed her off, and Evil Coop is Judy and Bob's attempt to rewrite a major character as 'dark and edgy' until he's finally written off the show when the original writers take back control. This prompts Judy to fuck off and write her own fanfiction world, which is where we see Cooper and Texas Laura in episode 18.

I do mean this all as rough analogy though. I don't know why I'm writing this autistic drivel and I'm sure I sound/am retarded, but it makes sense to me.

>>87362122
jerry scenes were about the dangers of weed legalization, ben scenes there to show that twin peaks had not completely degenerated into an immoral redneck shithole, audrey scenes reinforce the concept of dreams intermingling with reality and create more ambiguity around the concept of "the dreamer", audrey's son plotline is like Bobby and Leo's shady dealings on steroids and all about the future echoing the past, not sure what you mean by "gang plotline"

>>87361541
this

>>87362202
Just like they knew better than trying to wrestle more episodes out of the network?

>>87362111
>to allow BOB to enter the world through Leland
But BOB had at last one host before leland, Robertson, leland's childhood neighbor

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>>87360748

How do you come to that conclusion? Judy is the mother, the eggs/bugs were her offspring. Sarah is shown to be inhabited by Jumping Man multiple times this season, so why does this misunderstanding persist?

The bug had a pointy little nose, it was Jumping Man. Obviously Jumping Man is more obedient than Bob and serves Judy.

>>87361744
Quiet town with dark underbelly

>>87362285
they were all shit and all of these could have been made in a better way that would actually be relevant to the plot and not just a huge waste of time.

>>87361360
what do you think the scene with sarah\judy failing to damage Laura's picture meant?

What do you think about cooper fulliflling all the fireman\lodge inhabitants prophecies? HE followed the fireman instruction,woke laura up, and then the evil house disappeared.

it could be a happy ending, even if it probably meant that coop and laura got erased from existance as well (non-existent)

>>87361218
you're getting awfully worked up about this. Just let a few weeks pass and you'll wonder why you were stomping around calling Julee Cruise a "cunt" on the internet, lol.

>>87362235
It's clearly a result of his subconscious and completely built up around what was on his mind when he went to bed in episode 3. It exists without him because in the television show twin peaks dreams and reality are repeatedly shown to not be that distinct at all, it is a core concept of the show and quite embarrassing that you didnt pick up on it, maybe its time to rewatch lad.

>The letters under Bob's victims' fingernails were just him spelling out his "proper name"
>never added up to anything else
>retroactively out of character for BOB to leave a weird signature like that
>actively became nothing in The Return
I'm a bit disappointed

>>87362192
>>87362242
No, he was looking for Judy. This was clear from the beginning when he showed Daria the picture of the mother playing card thing and said "this is what I want"

I have no idea what doppelcoop wanted with judy, but he was looking for it

>>87362270
This has a less conclusive ending than Lost Highway? Less conclusive than Mulholland Drive? Less conclusive than FWWM?

>>87361059

You're getting it. The real Sarah is there but controlled by the spirits. She calls out to Laura at the end, it's not a flashback. Jumping Man is connected to the Tremonds, that's why they're controlling the house at the end. Sarah is calling out to Laura from captivity.

>>87362126
>I Have No Body and I Must Pee

>>87362279
>The white lodge are the original 'writers/fans' of the story and want the comfy soap opera that the more mellow parts of seasons 1 and 2 seemed to be
This is where your interpretation falls apart for me. So much of the stranger, more fucked up stuff that goes down is a direct result of the path that coop is being led down by the fireman

>>87362300

Well, I mean, it worked. Seriously though, Lynch knew very well that noone would watch a Twin peaks revival that doesn't have his name attached to it and he was absolutely right o use this as leverage.

>>87362417
You're not getting it.

>>87362348
why are you so hungry for plot you fucking animal lol, cant you just appreciate some people doing some things and take away ideas and feelings from it? did you not feel anything when you watched those scenes? did they not have any impact on you?

>check Mark Frost's twitter to see what he has to say about the finale
>he's just trumpposting at the speed of light

Social media is the real lodge monster, anons...

>>87362398
See my previous post. Doppelcoop wanted Judy because he probably thought she could make him powerful enough to supercede black lodge rules and stay in the real world undeterred.

>>87361063

To continue and grow the moral decay in Twin Peaks. Red was more there to illustrate a point about Shelly, that she always runs to the drug dealing bad boy like an impulse. Leo to Bobby to Red. Bobby went straight and obviously she lost interest. This season is largely about self destructive behavior.

>>87362041
Really hating that this is an idea that is spreading among fans, it's insulting to the episode to suggest that it is a "pitch"

that episode is the core of Twin Peaks, it goes back to what really mattered in the end, it is not a cliffhanger "pitch" to get Showtime to renew them.

Part 17 is the naive dream that something as awful as what Laura went through can be changed, that all the pain and suffering in Twin Peaks can be set straight and be undone. Part 18 is the reality

>>87362401
Lost Highway
>delusions are ended as he is executed
Mulholland Drive
>blatantly shoots herself out of fear and regret at what she did
FWWM
>Laura avoids being possessed by BOB, and sees that she hadn't been alone all along - he angels came for her.

>>87362279
I actually really like that. Makes sense man.

Also explains Cooper's face/we live inside a dream moment. That was the moment he sort of realized the manipulated nature of things and transcended to being a Lodge spirit himself. Free to author the ending he wants. Or try to at least.

>>87362398
>This was clear from the beginning when he showed Daria the picture of the mother playing card thing
What was that?
>have no idea what doppelcoop wanted with judy
Another anon in a different thread suggested it was because he needed her to rejuvenate the BOB spirit within him because it was dying

>>87362263
basically confirmed alongside with "Judy's" it being a dream

>>87362478
>it is not a cliffhanger "pitch" to get Showtime to renew them.
Why do you say that? Lynnh has done it before.

>>87362401
Okay Lost highway you've got a point. But FWWM's ending is relatively conclusive, and Mullholland Drive's ending is EXTREMELY conclusive so that's a terrible example. It's a weird ending but it's 100% conclusive. you might need to rewatch MD if you disappear

>>87361095
>>87361549
I assume the AH AH AH lady they're referring to is the one that's screaming in her car when the kid starts throwing up black goo in front of Bobby

>>87361103

Yeah, Laura can't be destroyed. That's why they try everything else. Corruption, possession, changing her identity.

>>87362450
Yes, and now that it worked, why wouldn't he presume that setting up another season would work as well?

>>87362470
but he didn't even know who judy was.

I'm partial to my theory he was trying to figure everything out. He was still the curious cooper in a sense. He only used extreme violence and crime to get to the bottom of it all

>>87362382
You fucking moron. We see it before Cooper. We see it when Cooper is knocked out. We see it act indepently

You are a pseud.

>>87362469
Mark's trumpposting is the same as Kyle's absolute twitter silence. They're both just trying to avoid the topic

>>87362438
Yeah, I'm just writing whatever bullshit pops into my head so I'm sure a lot of it doesn't really work.

Here's my radical new theory or idea that is so fucking stupid I should either be writing the new terminator movie or posting on reddit.

>2 coopers = 2 timelines
>one is the mirror image of the other– Certain scenes, such as whatever the hell is happening to audrey (staring at her reflection) and ed and norma getting back together take place in this mirror world (when nadine goes to eds gas farm the cars are driving on the wrong side of the road, ed has a dark, differently moving reflection, etc.).
>cooper entering into the black lodge at the end of s2 was the moment history splintered into two paths
>heisenberg's uncertainty principle referenced in the second series– references to coordinates throughout s3, the difficulty of pinning down the position and time (or rather velocity) of wormholes, but also, the fundamental question – which coop is not boop?
>booper is the coop in the reality where laura palmer was saved by future coop and so never needed to go to twin peaks and become a super lodge wizard with magic jazz hands
>consequentially is taken under the wing of earle instead of cole, who introduces him to the power of the black lodge, and subsequently bob. when (not entirely) bad cooper discovers the lodge in this timeline, windom is still killed but bob posesses coop (not actually his doppleganger, but the real coop from a timeline where laura never existed)– the coop from the original timeline is trapped in the lodge while bob runs around inhabiting his identity from another timeline, but here’s the twist, in original cooper’s timeline. the old switcheroo.

>>87362543

Because it hinges on this season doing well and... well, it doesn't have a lot of mass appeal.

>>87362553
He had the card, which, as a featureless head-shape with horns was very obviously (to us) Judy. He was chasing that as a source of power. He might not have known what Judy/the experiment was in the context of Bob's origin but he knew it could help him as a great source of evil.

>>87361152

Most of the people theory crafting can't even follow the visual, audio, and thematic cues to infer connections and create a coherent literal understanding of what they watched let alone abstract it.

>>87362524
True, but he was pretty upfront going into this saying "this is probably the last season."

Whereas it was very widely known at the time that there was supposed to be a twin peaks season 3, and after it was cancelled there was a huge campaign to un-cancel it that lynch supported

>>87362587
>2 timelines
Stopped reading right there

Fuck off

>>87362587
>at some point before 25 years was up, booper created the dougie tulpa as a failsafe so he wouldn’t get pulled back into his own timeline when cooper re-entered his own (the lodge being the transporter between realities).
>however it turned out the fireman’s plan was to use cooper’s reality– the one in which laura died – was the trap to ensnare coop's doppel and kill bob once and for all.
>cooper, upon succeeding over his doppleganger, gains a kind of spiritual ascension and realises that his reality is nothing but a dreamworld, and that being a being who has travelled between dimensions can use that knowledge to save laura once and for all by jumping to a dimension where she never died, taking her to sarah and banishing judy.
>however, when he gets to the new reality he assumes the role of its previous inhabitant– richard, or proto-booper – and realises not only does he not have a fucking clue where sarah could be or what the fuck is going on, he has lost his lodge magic powers and can never bring laura back to the original timeline.

Daily reminder that episode 1 and episode 18 happen at the same time.

>>87362438
what if the Fireman got outplayed by Judy?

>>87362417
>The real Sarah is there but controlled by the spirits.
>Sarah is calling out to Laura from captivity.
The actress that plays Sarah Palmer won't live long enough to star in the potential continuation, so even if you're right, this plotline won't go anywhere at all.

>>87362478
Feelings don't matter. The finale of season 2 is one of the best parts of Twin Peaks, but it was still a pitch for season 3.

The finale of The Return is brilliant, but it's still a pitch for season 4. If you feel the word 'pitch' cheapens it, that's fine. But it is what it is.

>>87362524
Because they approached and wrote this as a miniseries. Just because it doesn't have a conclusive ending doesn't mean it's a pitch for more seasons. Lynch hates stories that wrap up in a bow, why would The Return be different?

>>87360642
MISSOULA

>>87362484
>delusions are ended as he is executed
That's not how it ends at all though.
>blatantly shoots herself out of fear and regret at what she did
And that wraps up everything in the movie?

This has a pretty conclusive ending as well. Lynch isn't going to throw the answers at you, but everything that you need to know is in there.

>>87362458
you lynchcucks are the fucking worst and will defend anything that fucker does.

just fucking face it, he could have used that time better and fleshed out the characters more and made them actually feel like they mattered.

>>87362587
this holds no water because of how important windom earle is to the theory. Lynch hated earle as a character, this is why he's thrown away like nothing in the last episode of season 2, this is why he does not appear and is not even mentioned in the return despite the actor being healthy and not retired. There is 0 chance earle factors into the story of the return in any way

>>87362640
is it future or, is it past

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>tfw this image has lost its power

>>87362279
It's perfect!

>>87360642
TEENS ANAL

>>87362684
lol y u mad tho

>>87361817
fucking kek

>>87362512
>it being a dream
stop this

is tpg dying

>>87362657
>Lynch hates stories that wrap up in a bow, why would The Return be different?
All his other films wrap up pretty well though, what are you talking about?

>>87362657
>Just because it doesn't have a conclusive ending

the ending could be constructed as conclusive. It is ambiguous, not inconclusive.

>>87362666
>And that wraps up everything in the movie?
Yes! It genuinely does! Once you understand that the entire film until the cowboy tells her to wake up is a dream, and that the man behind winkies and the scary old people are metaphors, and that she kills herself at the end, what else is there to wrap up? MD practically ties itself up with a bow at the end, especially by Lynch standards

>>87362713
Sleep tight sheryl :3

>>87362700
feel bad for the actor, he only did his job

>>87362684
instead of fleshing out secondary characters he delivered pure tele-art-kino. He used time the best he could

>>87362657
>>87362617
>Twin Peaks is never coming back
>Cooper is never getting his mind back
>Twin Peaks is never coming back again

(you) are here...

>>87362684
I don't want fleshed out characters

The ending only feels inconclusive/not like an ending to you people because it's way easier to see it as a cliffhanger than it is to see it as an ending. Think harder. It's an ending, it's the ending, Twin Peaks is over.

It's a tough pill to swallow, but it's over.

>>87362772
>Yes! It genuinely does! Once you understand that the entire film until the cowboy tells her to wake up is a dream
Is there a treason you won't apply this logic to Season 3?

Gordon Cole was the worst character in the show and was just a vanity insert for Lynch to make himself a key player in the grand scheme of things.

>>87362563
>nah bro this is just an alternate realm that just exists bro
>it just fits exactly into cooper's subconscious as someone who is investigating a murder bro its just a coincidence Lynch wasn't going for anything with that bro!!!!!!!!!!!

you are a fucking brainlet. i know that it is an independent plane from Cooper, but it is originally his dream. That's the first time it's shown, that's what it originally fucking was. You are a complete dribbling retard if you did not pick up on the theme of dreams becoming indistinct from reality in this series, you were fucking beat over the head with it in season 3 and you still don't fucking get it. something being a dream in twin peaks doesn't make it not real, the dreams are just as real as the reality, the reality is just as fake as the dreams. fuck yourself.

So:

>Dreams are connected to the Lodge , as seen with Laura before her death in FWWM
>The Lodge is disconnected from Time, as seen on FWWM and The Return
>Twin Peaks is connected to the Lodge AND with Reality/Time

Twin Peaks is the bridge, change something from it and EVERYTHING will change.

>>87362837
Twin Peaks can't end because it went full circle and cancelled itself

>>87362824
I'm sorry that you need to convince yourself there's going to be a season 4 to make it through this tough time.

Hopefully they come out and confirm that there won't be so you aren't just left hanging

>>87362391
that was a leland thing not a bob thing

>>87362363
>what do you think the scene with sarah\judy failing to damage Laura's picture meant?

I thought I just explained what it meant/represented. It shows us that nothing changed, Sarah smashing the picture without making a dent = you can't erase what happened. Whatever did happen ended up happening in bizarro universe twin peaks, where the Palmers don't even exist.

The ending to me is not a happy one, Cooper went looking for answers and expected Laura to reunited with her parents and have her exorcise whatever evil is inside of Sarah. But there was nothing at that house, he searches for significance but he finds none, he's so desperate when he asks the house owners questions but none of them mean anything in that world that they're trapped in.

Laura then remembers everything she went through, again proving that nothing could be corrected or undone.

>>87362837
It's an ending, and it's a beginning.

>>87362824
how would you like season 4?

Personally I would like Cooper's and Laura quest through nightmare realities to continue, intersped with the old timeline shenanigans (Andy and Lucy shenanigans, Red shenanigans, the Cop fighting Red, the adventures of Dougie Jones)

>>87362837
>Twin Peaks is over.
Good.

>>87361648
>I'm talking about Diane's memories. Was she actually raped by Mr. C?
Yes, which is probably why she felt uneasy during the dimension-hopping sex with Cooper.

>Or was that implanted into the tulpa?
Dopplegangers have (some of?) the originals' memories: see Mr. C. Diane's tulpa had Diane's memories of being raped and lodged by Mr. C.

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>>87362700
wrong, Windom Earle is inquestionably the best part of season two, simply because what enshrouds the Deleuzian representation of negation in “The Black Lodge” is by nature (W)indom (E)arle. We, the pure ample aspiration, the capital v-Viewer are held fantastically in a grip of pleasure as "solicitude", certainty as “knowingness” and “The Black Lodge” as ontological blockchain/godhead. TMFAP is absolute fact in opposition but the baroque villainy of WE's (and any Lovecraftian) the same sin to die “now” as on the path to Madness. The conditional “It” (DC) creates nothing in response, Earle's own humanity is reflected in his oeuvre of disguise-personalities. (performed) To WE (& the normative Cooper &Briggs) the Implacability of unsure sentiment is Earle’s selfenforcing principle, pleasure--simplicity. In Palmer, the reprised intelligences move towards psychosomatic transgression. WE's sickness is symptom & myth unlike the Palmer daughter his active agent is not important, but “normal” and yet pronouncedly considerable as such, bidding. “We a the, of not can he.” The subject of Earle is in an undiluted terrace viewed viewers become wrote wonders, noting nothing Indian anyhow in the Black Lodge (negation).

didn't people theorize about multiple realities since that scene with the screaming guy in the diner where the actors in it changed in one instant?

>>87362857
oh I'm not the anon you were talking to earlier, I just took umbrage with you saying mulholland drive has an inconclusive ending.

I think that Twin Peaks, despite leaving a lot more open threads than even Mullholland Drive, does have a conclusive ending. It's just not as on-the-nose as MD's. but again i'm not the dude you were fighting with earlier, the post you're replying to was my first

>>87362878
Just like season 3 was officially off and confirmed not happening by all involved parties. Your post will age like Vedderposting.

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>tfw u create top ending

>>87362772
Wouldn't really call it a dream, but sure. Honestly don't see how the man at Winkies and the hitman scenes are 'metaphors' though. The ending doesn't 'obviously' wrap that up. It's clear in general what the film sets out to do, but there are some inconsitencies that I don't think are just explained through the ending. Not that I'm complaining about that though. I just think this is all the Twin Peaks we're going to get and it will prove to be pretty conclusive on repeated viewings.

The only way Twin Peaks could end is if Lynch establishes a Time Loop

>>87362863
Fucking moron cunt, how is it Cooper's ass pull dream when it has been machinating evil since fucking nuclear test you fucking moron

>>87361388
>who?
The honking fat lady in double R shoot scene with the possessed(?) kid, I assume.

>>87362858
>key player
Name a single thing Gordon does that actually has any effect on the story as a whole or thataffects the ending

yeah, I didn't think so

>>87362884
but he WANTED to Wake up Laura and the answers were linked to THEIR reality....

It's perfect.

Pure solipsism.

>>87360795
Backbeat is great too if you haven't seen that.

>>87362943
>oh I'm not the anon you were talking to earlier
Neither am I

I think all Lynch films have conclusive endings, including this. They just need to be decoded

>>87361605
This meme feels more forced than pepe already.

If cooper going back in time fucked everything up in the return

Why did annie going back in time not fuck anything up in FWWM

>>87361744
A deep, often unexplainable darkness lurking just below the pleasant, seemingly quaint surface. This is particularly prevalent in the original series, Mulholland Drive and Blue Velvet

>>87362976
hmm maybe because as i already stated one million and one times dreams are indistinct from reality in twin peaks you absolute shit dribbler.

how about this: everything went to plan and bob & judy were defeated but dale and laura were just discarded by the lodges once they had served their purpose

>>87362987
he was the director retard

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>>87362934
/tpg/s reddit-tier aversion to Earle is hilarious

>>87362934
this post feels like a slice of warm cherry pie.

based Deleuzian.

>>87363067
Frostfags need to fuck off

>>87363044
hyrr dyrr its coops dream except when its not it also appens to be dream of 8 other tings that dreamt it before cooper but it it still stooper's dream

fucking kill yourslef

>>87362967
>Wouldn't really call it a dream
A hallucination, whatever. It doesn't happen, Naomi watts is Diane Selwyn the entire time, and the first part of the movie is all in her head.

The hitman scene isn't a metaphor, though I don't know which one you're talking about. If it's the one where he kills tons of people I always interpreted that as either a hope that he was so incompetent he'd fail to kill her ex lover (who she sent him after), or a worry that he would end up killing other innocents in the endeavor.

>I just think this is all the Twin Peaks we're going to get and it will prove to be pretty conclusive on repeated viewings
I agree 100%

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I'm probably missing something but why couldn't Mr. C just walk to the sheriff's office?

>>87363004
No, he didn't want to wake up Laura, he wanted to save her. She was not saved.

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>>87362914
Just give Cooper a happy ending. Let him replace Dougie and retire with Janey E and Sonny Jim so that someone else can fight evil spirits and travel through other worlds.

>>87363083
name one useful deleuze/guattari concept and explain how it is useful

VILLAINS SLAIN:

-killer BOB
-the Vedderposter\Evil Vedder

HEROES SLAIN:

-Mr C\evil cooper

HEROES WITH AN UNCERTAIN FAITH

-Cooper and Laura

BOSSES STILL ALIVE \ DESTINY UNCERTAIN

-Judy\The experiment\mother

K I N O
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>>87363054
I mean the character, Gordon cole, retard. IF you took gordon cole out of the story entirely, would the key events of the story play out differently? Would episode 17 or 18 have happened differently? No, everything still would've happened

my point is that gordon cole is not a key character.

>>87363106
he didn't want to go there, the fireman sent him there

>>87361218
Julee , please.

>>87363155
Gordon Cole was the director, retard.
REALITY DREAM FAKE WOW THE TWIN PEAKS IS FROSTS AND LYNCHS DREAM BENDING TOGETHER IN ASS TO ASS ACTION

>>87363067
nothing is more reddit than actually wanting a bargain-bin batman villain like earle to be a character in twin peaks

>>87363109
he was trying to make her remember she is Laura in every way. He succeeds.

"i watch lynch solely for the story"

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>>87363106
He didn't want to go to the sherieff's office - he wanted to go to the Palmer household, but the location was changed.
You may ask the same about why he didn't drive to the Palmer household. And there is no good reason for it. Just bored of the journey I suppose?

>>87362987

Being the guy who was apart of the epic secret plan to get Judy and the only one who left the Sheriff station with Cooper and Diane, for no reason what so ever.

>>87363155
if you take the director out of twin peaks you literally have nothing

>>87363106
he wanted to find Naido and the white Lodge showed him the way

>>87363191
"i was pretending to be retarded!"
okay whatever man, nice memes you plebian

>>87363171
why couldn't he just walk from the sheriff's office to the palmer house, where it seemed he was originally trying to go

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>>87363095
>Frost is a moron that genius Lynch hangs around with for no good reason
lmao

>>87363106
He didn't want to go to the sheriff's office at all. The Fireman redirected him to the Sheriff's office after orchestration everyone else to be there as well to defeat him.
>>87363146
Brings up a question: Is The Arm a villain or hero?

In the original series, Mike says he was evil and cut him off, and in FWWM we see BOB and The Arm exchanging garmonbozia

Yet in Season 3 The Arm seems to be helping Cooper.

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>>87362833
>dont want plot
>dont want characters

what the fuck do you want. meme magic?

>>87361744
Lynch keeps making the same movie ever since Lost Highway.

>>87363135
>10 year journey
Too bad The Return wasn't only 10 episodes.

>>87363272
the arm has a double

>>87363101
I agree it doesn't happen. I'd call it a dissociative fantasy or something, but yeah. And to be completely honest, I'm a bit fuzzy on details, I should probably watch it again soon.

>>87363303
pleb much? Did you even detect the kinography in twin peaks the return?

oinly a pleb would have wanted more unneeded character development instead of what we got

>>87363395
are you really going to pretend the return was 10/10? if so then fuck off and go to back to plebbit hugbox

>>87363106

He wanted to be sent to the alternate timeline Palmer house to find Judy, but was sent to the Sheriff station instead.

>>87363098
>retarded escapist cant understand that the lodge was originally cooper's dream and is full of things directly relevant to what he was thinking about that night when he went to bed and thinks that a scene conceived 25 years later changes that

>moron cant embrace the concept of a dream becoming a reality when its a core concept of the series he spent full days of his life watching

>>87361375
>Audrey
She is in the fucking coma, that else do you need to know? Maybe to seek to know if she had shit herself while being in coma? No? Then stfu.
>Red
What about Red? Just a random guy who controls drug traffic in TP, what else do you need to know? Do want to see how he's being molested by his dad when he was 12? No? Then stfu.
>Bobby/Shelly/their daughter
Shelly's is whore as always, Bobby is married to justice now, her daughter along with her bf are all dead. Do you need to know if Shelly swallows Red's cum or does she spit it out? No? Then stfu.
>Ben's assistant's husband or whatever the fuck that was
Just an ordinary lonely woman who has still sexual desires yet she lives with near-to-death jealous husband. Do you need to know if Ben gave it to her? No? Then stfu.
>Real vs tulpa Diane, what was real/fabricated
For fucks sake, Lynch explained everything, were you banging your gf while watching TP? No? Then stfu.
>What was the bug/frog?
Part of Mother's evil, fuck, man, if you have fucking eyes, you could see fucking egg in Mother's vomit. Do you need to know if the frog was banging Sarah while she were sleeping? No? Then stfu.
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As for others, it wasn't Lynch who didn't explain something, it were you who didn't want to think for themselfs, but rather wait for Lynch to chew it up for ya.

>>87363475
it's not a 10/10, it's a ∞/10

it has some flaws, true, witch detracts from the final score of ∞, but it turns ∞ minus any number is still ∞

>>87363822
damn you like sucking that lynch cock.

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>>87362085
BOB/Mr. C was supposed to go back to the Waiting Room (he could access other pieces of lodgespace, like the Convenience Store and the Dutchman's) after 25 years passed. Since he manufactured Dougie, he managed to evade that fate.In response, MIKE armed Cooper with the Ring to seal the "contract" of the doppelganger being killed and returned to the Waiting Room.

Mr. C was ultimately running away from Cooper, sending assassins after him, going back to Diane and evading the coordinates trap laid out by Jeffries. I'm not sure if he had any motivation beyond what was given in FWWM regarding BOB wanting to feel through Laura's lips: he is a hedonistic evil.

>>87361388
>They're both dead
Wait, what? When did Becky die?

>>87362484
>he is executed
Was never intended, stop spreading this reddit meme.

>>87362653
The ending of Eraserhead was a pitch for Eraserhead 2 right? So Jack Nance could get back with has girlfriend and have a go at another baby

>>87362041
Fuck off with that reddit shit

Is it just me or did the swearing feel out of place in this season?Maybe it's just that the world has changed since back then.

When Cooper saw the blind woman, he realized how convoluted nonsense this all has been. The scene continues showing how happy everything now is, but Cooper has come to realize he is within a dream. They're all dream, none of this has been real. With this revelation, Cooper goes back before everything began and takes Laura out of the dream. Her dream. Season 3, starts with Laura being taken out of her dream by Cooper, and goes on without her. Its all just the dream dreaming itself.

After pulling Laura out, Cooper unites with Diana and they elope to waking world. They tell eachother they're real, but Diana can't lie to herself and runs off. Cooper then finds the evil in Laura's dream, her working place, and "Laura", the dreamer.

The powerlines, motel, cafe, the long ride and the streets of Twin Peaks, are there to show how little difference there is between all the Coopers, and how out-of-place and fake he is.

At the end Cooper starts questioning his own existence, or is just generally confused, and "Laura" remembers her dream, screams and they fall back into the rabbit hole.

>>87361535
-Cooper fulliflls all of the fireman prophecies

explain

>>87361793
i think this post is onto something.

>lynch will die soon
>normies keep begging for season 4 because they didn't get episode 18
>frost will shit out a season with evil dentist Windom Earle as the main villain

>>87362472
>Leo to Bobby to Red. Bobby went straight and obviously she lost interest.
This is what I've taken from it, yeah.

Still, I wish we had more scenes with Bobby.

>>87364372
>pretending you understood episode 18

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>>87360908
I liked readin this

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>>87364636
Is Mrs. Chalfont/Tremond Judy?

>>87363272
>Yet in Season 3 The Arm seems to be helping Cooper.
The Arm evolved.