/tpg/ - Twin Peaks General:

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>>87332634
1st for jumping man

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>>87331194
It's a parody of what people expect from such a plotline. Everyone wants a hero, and everyone wants Lynch to do something. Having said that, it's actually possible it never really happened.

>>87332257
No. Everything that happens after Coop wakes up in the hotel, however, is a constructed reality. One Mother created to trap Laura and that Coop entered to rescue her
>>87332274
By entering the lodge long ago and spending time there, and by being someone so supernaturally inclined, he was able to transcend humanly existence. This sounds cheesy but its the best words I have. Twin Peaks and the world is "a dream" because it is created for consciousness to exist within. But outside the dream is the lodge and its gods and beings. Death is one way to part from the dream and transcend, and so apparently is entering the lodge. So basically Coop has reached his "enlightenment". He goes to save Laura. Not to remind her that she's Laura palmer, but that she is a transcended being as well, created to combat mother, pure evil. Coop succeeds. Laura, in the lat moment, realizes everything, and this realization shatters the reality that mother constructed. Coop was only confused because he sacrificed his sense of self by entering the construct and slowly becoming Richard. But it was all part of his and the giants plan and now Laura is awake and they can finally take on Mother.

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Uhhhhh yeah, I'm thinking she solidified her position as human kino

>>87332674
If this is true I like it but Lynch loves dark endings so I doubt it

I still have several questions.

What was the deal with Chad? Why did he exist?

What was the point of Norma and the whole RR franchise thing?

What happened to Ben's secretary that wanted to fuck him?

Whatever happened to that weird guy who did the coin thing to Audrey's son?

What was the deal with Sarah Palmer ripping that guys throat out?

What was the point of Dr. Jacoby and his show?

What was the point of Audrey and her husband?

Who the fuck were those girls at the Roadhouse constantly?

Why was Coop talking like BobCoop at the diner?

What the FUCK was the ending?

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CAN'T CLIMB TO HEAVEN
ON THE CRO-O-OSS

sheryl looks like lisa marie presley

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I'm trying to find this house on Google maps. Wish me luck, and give me hints if you can.

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Can we discuss the brilliance of the Cooper face overlay towards the end of episode 17? I've never felt happiness and cold dread like that at the same time. When it spoke "we live inside a dream" it was like the floor fell out from under me. Impending fucking doom incarnate.

>>87332681
Is it weird that I understood Lain even less than this ending?

>>87332673
>It's a parody of what people expect from such a plotline.
Great, make a parody of a story that has been building since 1990. Lynch cares more about Laura Dern than he does about the antagonist of the original run.

Well that was bad, no other way to twist it

I'm just going to forget the reboot ever happened and go rewatch the original series, I'm a simple man just give me cooper and coffee.

>>87332714
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4093826/locations

There's only 2 kinds of people after last night.

People who liked the ending
And people who did not like it

Anyone who didn't understand it will simply fall into "did not", and if they care enough to look up what the ending meant, they will most like still stay in "did not like it"

The only people who truly like the series are those that can put understanding Lynch's art above caring about characters in a TV show.

First for Buddhism

>>87332724
That was probably my favorite part I just knew something was fucked when his face was there. It was chilling.

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Friendly reminder that s4 is confirmed


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/has-twin-peaks-been-a-hit-showtime-1034370

>From a financial perspective, Nevins says Twin Peaks has exceeded expectations.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/culture/television/twin-peaks-sherilyn-fenn-audrey-david-lynch/

this one confirms that lynch wanted to do another season even before he stopped shooting:

>If David Lynch wanted to do another season of Twin Peaks, would you do it? “Oh yeah. He said if people loved it he would do another one, and the hardest part is just sitting down and writing it. But he had so much fun this time, he really loved it. And he got to do it the way he wanted to. It’s like an 18-hour movie, so he’s happy. Let’s just stay positive. It really turned out the way he wanted it to in his heart.”

https://twitter.com/SHO_TwinPeaks/status/902177684817661952

>the suit goes back into the archives, to be worn at a future day, maybe, no idea, keep your fingers crossed

http://deadline.com/2017/08/twin-peaks-no-second-season-showtime-david-lynch-david-nevins-tca-1202144491/

>David Nevins : , “the door’s always open to David Lynch, whether that would lead to another season, I don’t know if he wants to do it,”

All people involved want another season, yes, including lynch

>>87332705
Lynched XD

>>87332763
What about people that don't watch Twin Peaks?

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hey remember when Denise Bryson went from transvestite to full tranny on hormones and actually was never part of the DEA but was actually FBI undercover as another alphabet soup agent?

remember how Denise is now the FBI chief of staff and hence Gordon Cole's boss? and Gordon went to Denise to talk to "her" for absolutely no reason?

>sent multiple actors to their deaths
>used the image of multiple already deceased people
>dragged numerous people out of their peaceful retirements

For this.

So Coop goes back in time and stop Laura from getting raped. Then tells her they're "going home" but then she disappears. Where exactly was she supposed to have gone? Did Cooper dun goofed?

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>>87332705
Who even was the retard in prison. Was it this guy or someone else? I don't remember someone like that being locked up in the first place.

>>87332780
>s4 is confirmed
no. there will be no more tp except for books, which you should buy

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>>87332724
T'was a very nice touch, but let's not get carried away.

>>87332703
He does?
>Blue Velvet, Wild at Heart, FWWM, Inland Empire
All ranging from happy to bittersweet. His endings are always extremely rewarding in an under the skin kind of way, and I don't think that The Return is any different. This was his farewell, and he set things right

>>87332689
Literally stole the season in the last episode

>>87332743
>Lynch cares more about Laura Dern than he does about the antagonist of the original run.

Same.

>>87332761
Thank you

>>87332819
I was just speaking from personal experience. It was extremely effective for me.

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>>87332714
reminded me of this one in the other timeline from episode 11

>>87332705

Almost everything you're asking isn't significant enough to bother having time taken up to conclude them.

>>87332689
how is she so good at screaming?

Why exactly did Cooper freeze for a moment when he saw Naido? His shocked expression was superimposed for like 5 mins. Does this mean that Naido/Diane are the link between worlds?

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Where is he in the superimposed shot?

I just read that the lady who lives in the Palmer house is who actually owns that house IRL.

>>87332758
Faggot

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what did he mean by this?

How much do you guys think the budget was for the entire season

Did Showtime even make it back?

>>87332847
Lynch reminded her of all of the rapes and just filmed her reaction

>>87332839
Nice. I'll try to find this one too.

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>>87332836
Well, then I'm glad it resonated to such a degree.

>>87332812
Cooper is, in fact, an epic level dun goofed

Existence itself would be better off if he'd just left well enough alone and been happy with pretending to be a retard happily with Janey and Sonny Jim

>>87332796

>Hawk's only role was to find the diary page, which meant nothing in particular, then listen to the log lady whine for like 5 phonecalls, then go to the palace portal place, do nothing there and then do nothing for the rest of the season

wew

>>87332841
So why were they included in the first place?

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We're NOT going to talk about Judy

>>87332877
That was a Frost line I'm sure. I like it still I am just saying that is definitely Frosty.

>>87332815
If you follow the Roadhouse conversations it was some drunk guy who ran that one girl's boyfriend off the road and he had to be helped by a farmer. Not really significant to anything.

>>87332793
Fix your heart

what was the donut and what was the hole

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>>87332758

>>87332724
It's like Frost wrote the corniest fan service scene of all time. Everyone is reunited after defeating the main villain. Cooper is smiling and happy and then reunites with Diane. But then Lynch does that face overlay and completely flips the scene upside down.

>>87332852
the black lodge, go back to early episode 2 where he is talking to the arm/tree with mike and it cuts to a close up of his face.

this shot is telling us when he reenters the black lodge in other timeline he realizes all his attempts to change time are futile, and a never ending cycle he's trapped in, thus saying: "we live inside a dream"

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>there are folk who will binge watch The Return instead of having all the fun we had discussing and dissecting each episode week to week
plebs
I did that with the original series

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APOLOGIZE

>>87332780
merrily merrily merrily

if they don't start over from fwwm and redo it again lynchian, it would be as stupid as season 2

I'd like to something like lynch/frost do Homestuck

>>87332900
You forgot that he saw the lodge curtains in Episode 1 and then NEVER MENTIONED IT

>>87332877
>the one guy who posted a screencap from this scene for weeks
step forward secret bro

>>87332743

Audrey is a piece of shit and nobody wants to see her awful acting.

>>87332724
I was so confused by this, clearly Cooper knows reality isn't what it seems yet he's mystified at the end of episode 18. What does it mean?

>>87332812
Mother took her away so she couldn't be used to her full potential to stop her. But Coop woke her up so things are hopeful

Do you think Coffee and Pie fags would actually have been happier if Cooper never woke up and stayed Dougie?

>>87332921
Cooper reuniting with Diane wasn't fanservice though, that was Lynchservice

>>87332948
Oh yeah hahaha

>>87332974
Fuck, no. they'd be spitting bile.

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Charlie = John Justice Wheeler

Billy = Cooper

In Audrey's mind she had created parallels to her real life. She hates JJW for fucking and dumping her and looks at him as a decrepit midget with fucked up arms that doesn't give a fuck about her, and she's desperate to find her true love Billy, who is missing, who is nice to her and treats her well.

Mind = Blown

Every time I watch the credits, it gets more and more haunting. The look on Cooper's face...its an expression of knowing whats going to happen to him in episode 18, but the realization that he has to go through with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGqVDQ-7u0g

>>87332934
he was literally pointless nothing he did served any purpose. The letter didn't matter, his connection to Richard didn't matter, his rivalry with Andy didnt matter

NOTHING MATTERS

>>87332934
Nah, you deserved everything that happened to you, chad. eat shit

>>87332921
>what i like comes from lynch and what i don't from frost, even though i have no idea who wrote what
you ppl are the worst

>>87332901
>Every single thing that happens in a series must be of utmost importance

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Reminder that if the Double R diner exists in Carrie Page's reality, then so does Glastonbury Grove

Cooper just has to go into the Black Lodge or Jack Rabbit's Palace or something and see what's up

That final scene doesn't mean everything is over

>>87332955
It means that he can't be the hero and you can't fix things beyond your power

>>87332763
I like it AND I don't understand it.
What do you think of that, smart guy?

>>87333001
He saved the day on accident by causing Freddie to break out of his cell so he could fight Mr. C
NOW APOLOGIZE

>>87332898
I can buy that. I would like to know why/how Cooper knew to go back in time though. It was like he knew that after defeating Bob it was time to go back in time and save Laura.

Also, did anyone else catch that when Coop said "Some things will change" that everyone stared at him blankly except for Hawk who gave him a nod of complete understanding? Also remember that Hawk apparently knew about the Judy symbol. Is Lynch implying that Native American mythology is objective truth!?

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>>87332877

>>87332926
I did this then you faggots started posting leaks episode 16 or so onwards so I stopped, it was getting stale anyway, some good threads mid season though

>>87332948

He didn't see them. We, the audience, did.

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the entire revival was a meta-narrative about the concept of bringing something from the past that everyone loves

coop going back to meddle with the past only to create a new fucked up timeline is a statement about the existence of the revival itself

>>87332674
It's this. Twin Peaks is manipulated by mother/sarah palmer/judy

>>87332914
for all the shit /TPG/ is giving people for expecting a "coffee and pie" ending, there was an awful lot of pointless fanservice in The Return

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What was the significance of the Giant referring to himself as the Fireman. Glove boy also referred to him as Fireman.

>>87332996
Charlie = Lynch
Billy = What fans expected of Lynch

>>87333011
Take it easy, Mark.

>>87332763
That's pretty much accurate. People that like Lynch's body of work overall more than Twin Peaks enjoyed it, people that like Twin Peaks more than Lynch's other movies didn't

>>87332705
How is it hard to grasp that some plotlines and scenes exist for their own sake?

>>87332714
Id rather find the JUDY's restaurant

>>87333000
CHECKED and what could she possibly have been saying to him? In lodge chronology where does that fall?

WHY DID HAWK GO INTO THE LODGE IN EPISODE 2?
WHY IS NO ONE MENTIONING THIS?
IT WAS NEVER FUCKING EXPLAINED

>>87332926
I watched every episode week after week but binged the whole thing during the marathon.

>>87332634
I just watched it.

I don't know how I feel.

I didn't expect it to end how I, or anyone else wanted or expected. It was incredible, I was quite literally on the edge of my seat the entire two hours.

So why do I feel so empty? Or maybe it's sadness. Dissapointment? I'm scared anons

>>87333068

Lynch simultaneously loves and hates everything about Twin Peaks. He poured love into every happy, chummy moment and then went all Bob on it.

>>87333015
They filmed that final sequence before anything else. Probably added the red line later and forgot they already filmed the building earlier without it.

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>>87333103
Here you go

>>87333062
That's a cop out

Which describes Hawks whole role, really.

>>87333000
I want to know what do you guys think she said? I can't think of what it could be. Did she tell him he would become lost in the dream world? What did she tell him?

>>87333079
he was the logs lady wife who died. Log lady's wife was a fireman who died in the woods IIRC.

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Reminder that if S4 (somehow, miraculously) gets commissioned (netfux/amazog), D. Lynch will die before shooting wraps, anyway.

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>muh woah lynched 2deep4u literally what did he mean by this faggots

>>87332921
Its Lynch's homage to the Wizard of Oz
right before Dorothy leaves.

>>87333068
this
i will never read another tpg again, this is exactly what i am going to accept and just walk away now

>>87332950
It was a promotional shot released by Australian TV network Stan

>>87333001

He was an example of a person consumed by bad emotions which cause suffering

>>87332852
thats his face after laura in the black lodge whispered something to him. prolly, "you will fuck everything up if you try to save me" or something to that effect. and this image of him thinking back to this moment because this is before he went off to save her, since the black lodge is non-linear

swallowed up and lost in the wide womb of uncreated night

>>87333017
They go through all this trouble of introducing characters and spending time on them just to ignore them for the rest of the series? Makes no sense.

>>87333090
Sorry, I just wanted a conclusion to things.

Reactions to the finale:
Pleb:
>I didn't understand what was going on therefore it was amazing
Normie:
>I didn't understand what was going on therefore it was shit
Patrician:
>God DAMN milf Sheryl's ass game is 10/10 more of her in jeans PLEASE

>>87333136
I found it weird that JUDY's was only open 5:30 AM to 1:30 PM on the sign.

>>87333150
Nigga is gonna live to 100+ thanks to transcendental meditation

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>we didn't get the two hour loving sex scene in Laura's childhood bed between her and Cooper that I was hoping for

I got LYNCHED

>>87332714
I'm the guy who answered you in the last thread. It's going to be something right off the 40 or the 15 east of Barstow or off the 10 between Palm Springs and Yuma. Your best bet is to zoom in on Google Maps and just start clicking away. Every town faces west, not sure what you mean.

I get the dream part (mostly) but what was the significance of the nuke and electricity throughout the whole season?

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>>87333011
Lynch is the infallible maestro and Frost is the vulgar fanfic writer.

LYNCHED lol

>>87332901
Because they were intriguing stories? Because they added to the sense that something was seriously wrong? Because Lynch wanted to give us peeks at where some characters were at 25 years later? Not everything has to move the central plot forwards, nor does it have to be complete. It just adds to the web, the collage. Lynch created a painting as much as he did a story

Guys... guys... it's all about the friends we made along the way

>>87332634
Anyone got a download for the season?

>>87333015
ow, it's exactly the same. What's your point?

>>87333183
If you own the restaurant you can make it whatever you want. Most likely it is a breakfast/lunch restaurant.

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Bobby, may I share something with you? A vision I had in my sleep last night—as distinguished from a dream, which is a mere sorting and cataloguing of the day’s events by the subconscious. This was a vision: fresh and clear as a mountain stream, the mind revealing itself to itself. In my vision I was on the veranda of a vast estate, a palazzo of some fantastic proportion. There seemed to emanate from it a light, from within this gleaming, radiant marble. I had known this place. I had, in fact, been born and raised there, and this was my first return—a reunion with the deepest wellsprings of my being. Wandering about, I noticed happily that the house had been immaculately maintained. There had been added a number of additional rooms, but in a way that blended so seamlessly with the original construction, one would never detect any difference. Returning to the house’s grand foyer, there came a knock at the door. It was then I saw it, the interracial breedings grounds, hordes of white women being dominated by superior African breed. My son was standing there in the middle of it all, clutching his tiny white penis, beside him I saw Shelly, several of the most hung men of the tribe were taking turns on her as bobby looked on, eternally cucked. I awoke with a tremendous feeling of optimism and confidence in you and your future. That was my vision. It was you, standing there, in the cuck lodge.

>>87333105
something was supposed to happen (coop coming out of the lodge)

>>87333151

Be zen be nice take a cool pill enjoy sunshine brother

>people think the last episode is a dream
>no one realizes it's actually the real world

Yall being taken for a ride in the wrong direction

>>87333193
Yeah but not the actors

I wish I could look as deliciously bronze as Evil Cooper did this season

>>87333183
Lots of restaurants do that.
I live near the original spot of the Blob diner, and they always close after lunch so I never get to eat there.

>>87333023
it does. i-i'm so sorry anon

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>>87332763

>>87333204
The nuke and electricity made it easy for spirits to move back and forth between the worlds.

So Major Briggs became ascended right?

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What's his endgame?

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>S1:10/10
>S2:6/10
>FWWM plus deleted scenes:8/10
>S3:8/10
Your thoughts?

Overall, this is the worst piece of trash ever to be broadcasted on television. If I was Showtime, I would be embarrassed to have this pathetic excuse of a story amongst its programming. This was 18 hours of senseless scenes and story lines filled with the worst acting I have ever seen. For all you DL fan boys who claim this is art; well I guess if I was to take can of black spray paint and just spray the canvas randomly, that would be art, too. Here's a news flash: IT'S NOT.. and neither is Twin Peaks The Return. What this season did was to destroy the mystery of the series and the movie, FWWM. I said this when I first heard there was going to be a season 3, and I'll say it again.. David Lynch and Mark Frost should have left it alone. The story of Twin Peaks was perfect before this piece of crap was released.

>>87333230
I think it may have to do with certain times though, what with 4:30 PM and all/supernatural shit.

>>87333219
There's no RR 2 go

>>87333193
Even dropping $1m+ on TM can't halt the creeping, unforgiving onset of cancer.

Dude shoulda binned the cigs years ago. It's common industry knowledge that he has a major, unspecified health problem - partly the reason why S3 nearly didn't happen.

I think I was more triggered by Truman not even shifting in his chair upon witnessing a horde of demonic spirits having a fight in his office than I was when Gordon was completely unfazed by Albert and Tammy emptying their guns into Diane two feet away from him in a tiny room

>>87333028
I don't think so, to me it's clearly unfinished and that's all there is to it.

Perhaps it's meant to be concluded at another time or not, I don't know.

Why the fuck was cooper acting so strange in the diner and at Palmers house?

Did he morph into some half evil coop half normal coop after sex with Diane?

>>87333195
>implying he didn't film it and "forget to include"

>>87333258

Both are dreams, both are real.

>>87333148
It's slippery in here

>>87333197
Thanks!
I meant the house's facade facing west. I like to narrow it down between easy to west or north to south roads.

>>87332763
I liked it but I'm a painter so I'm preconditioned to like this shit, even if I don't understand it literally. What I like more is the discussion happening now. That's way more interesting to me and the actual triumph here really.

>>87333224
lmao

>>87333297
Big deal, you can paint over that in an hour.

>>87333076
As well as its counterpart the giant/fireman. The two manifestations of good and evil, existing and osculating in a balance. They are black and white and the world, human existence, is the grey area in between. "Intercourse between two worlds". Everything, the worlds, the planes of existence, are colliding thanks to Mother, and Fireman had to restore balance. Mother has not been defeated, but in human existence, the "dream" her presence is gone and balance is restored. IT IS A HAPPY ENDING

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>>87333290
Rhinoplasty.

>>87333324
He was in a dream reality. He knew the pieces would fall into place if he just went with it, like throwing the stone and letting it land. No time for niceties

>>87333292
S1: 8.2/10
S2: first 11 episodes: 8.3/10
S2: last half before final two episodes: 2/10
S2 last couple episodes: 9/10
S3: 8.5/10 except the hack ending

>>87333154
ok

>>87333292

Season 1 has nothing on 3. Episodes onwards from 4 are where it stops being great at all. Let go.

seasons 1 and 2 - nge
FWWM - end of eva
the return - rebuild

>>87333292
S1: 9/10
S2: 6.5/10
FWMM: 9.5/10
S3: 10/10

>>87333324
I took it as him realizing that he was in some sort of dream or alternate universe or whatever. He knew it wasn't "his" world so nothing he did mattered, and his entire purpose for being there was to save Laura, so he was cold and to the point.

>>87333293
>butthurt because no easy to understand resolution

Go watch Game of Thrones

>>87333324
It wasn't Cooper it was Richard

>>87333324
I wondered about this too

>>87332877
(((they))) are the evil force after all

>>87332763
>My interpretation is the correct one and everyone else is stupid and should just look it up
I wish to be as cool as you one day

>>87333293
Lol what you talking about "destroying the mystery" there's a pretty fucking big mystery right now. We still don't completely understand TP. we have little idea about Judy, we don't know what Laura whispered to Coop. Sounds like you got lynched pretty hard there m8

>>87333174
>Patrician:
>>God DAMN milf Sheryl's ass game is 10/10 more of her in jeans PLEASE
this

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David Lunch, lol, got soft in his old age.

>>87332817
>no. there will be no more tp except for books, which you should buy
then why lynch said to sherilyn that he is up for another one?

>>87333292
>S1: 8/10
>S2: 6/10
>FWWM: 10/10
>S3: 10/10

>>87333439

NOT WHERE IT STILL COUNTS

>>87333169
See >>87333210
There was a conclusion, to the big picture, to what mattered. Everything else was to color in the world around it. That's how some art works, art less concerned with narrative objectives

>When Coop realized everything his transparent face was plastered over the screen
>Laura Palmer's face always appeared in the same fashion in the opening

W O A H
Really activates my almonds.

wtf was Bad Cooper even trying to achieve? He wanted to find Judy but he spent the entire season chasing after coordinates that just led him to Diane?

>Jew-dee is the source of all evil in the world

What did David and Mark mean by this?

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This shot is sheer insanity

>>87333224
can't watch this due to rosie o'donnell. i wish jane krakowski was in it 2bh

>>87333174
What am if I didn't understand what was going on and I don't know what I thought of it

>>87333078
Fix your heart or die is pretty fucking memorable as a comment on the current human condition though. Maybe even as a comment on the show and its characters,

>>87333387
Anything directed by Lynch from S1 and S2 is god-tier though. I always laugh at people who imply S2 is low quality from the start because the 4 S2 episode Lynch directed are better than any S1 episode he didn't direct.

I only wish we had a Lynch directed S1 finale because Frost's finale was basically just a generic 80s TV show finale.

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>>87333373
>mfw I just realized e18 is Lynch's personal guide to lucid dreaming

Anyone else find it weird how they replayed the Coop walking with Laura scene from 17 at the beginning of 18?

>Cooper lost again, probably met a fate like Philip Jeffries
>Albert dead

How long until Tammy ends up in the Lodge in season 4?

>>87333292
>S1: 10/10
>S2 First Half: 10/10
>S2 Second Half 7/10
>FWWM: 9/10
>S3: 8/10

>>87333480
Someone explain this

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>that moment the distorted, carried voice of Sarah Palmer bellows "LAAAURAAA" out of the Palmer house

Shivers down my spine. What a terrifying and bewildering moment. I will be haunted forever by it.

Can someone post a pic of Dougie's house and street?

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>>87333456
A 6 for S2? Don't be a cretin. There's approximately 3/4 bad episodes in the entire season.

Jesus, these fucking newfags.

>>87333480
He just wanted to stay out of the Lodge because he had to go back after 25 years.

>>87332780
Do you know what the word "confirmed" means?

E18 was really E1 S4 :^)

>>87333366
nice, and nice dubbbbbbbs

>>87333521

They probably didn't make it with the foresight that it would be back to back

>>87333480
Diane is the key to all of this
because she was the dreamer lol

>>87333489
CONGRATULATIONS!

>>87333496
it depends on how much you appreciated sheryl's ass

>>87333001
Yes it did, if he didn't cover Richard's ass the guy wouldn't have met Booper which in turn (supposedly) wouldn't have had a victim to test those coordinates on, plus the "my son" line

>>87332705
>What was the deal with Chad? Why did he exist?
to be a minor antagonist, that's it.

>What was the point of Norma and the whole RR franchise thing?
that was its own story, like how there are a billion of those in seasons 1 and 2.

>What happened to Ben's secretary that wanted to fuck him?
its own side story to give Ben something to do and show he had become a better person

>Whatever happened to that weird guy who did the coin thing to Audrey's son?
That id like to know

>What was the deal with Sarah Palmer ripping that guys throat out?
she's possessed by Frogmoth

>What was the point of Dr. Jacoby and his show?
to inspire Nadine

>What was the point of Audrey and her husband?
That id like to know

>Who the fuck were those girls at the Roadhouse constantly?
filler/joke set up for freddie

>Why was Coop talking like BobCoop at the diner?
The Coop we know is a cartoon character who embodies justice and good guys. The whole show has been part of Laura's dream. He now emerged into another realm where he is the dashing hero. He is the sum kfnhis parts and part of him is cold like dopplecooper

>What the FUCK was the ending?
Judy snatched Laura away before Coop could save her and Coop is going tonoursue Laura in an endless cycle with Judy as the antagonist. Carrie/Laura recognized the truth and broke the dream

>>87333523
How long until Tammy rape scene?

>>87332921
you faggots don't know who wrote what so stop acting like you do. "frost wrote what I hated and lynch wrote what i liked". whatever. Love or blame them both.

Seeing shit like that makes me wonder if Lynch is the man he presents himself to be at all. Is he just playing a joke character every time he's in public?

>>87333523
Tammy's fat ass getting railed by the jumping man's nose WHEN

>>87333480
He just wanted more garmonbozia

>>87333552
they definitely would've

>>87333455
sherilyn is a nut case

>>87333183
Best breakfast spot in town where I live is like that. Opens at 5 and sandwiches and burgers and shit after 10 but everything's done by 2.

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>>87332852
Deleted scene ep18 released from russia

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>>87333292
S1: 9/10
S2: 8/10
FWWM: 8/10
S3: 8/10

>>87333543
all the things that needs to happen for a season 4 happened, we just need an official announcement now. Dont say confirmed if you want, but it will happen

This feels less like a tv series, and more like we're peeking into another world. I know Lynch has said that in his mind, things had been happening in Twin Peaks in the 25 years it was "dead" and that he occasionally has dreams of the characters. I wonder if The Return is influenced by these dreams? What if Lynch is the dreamer
> “We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives inside the dream”
Would this not make sense? I mean, Lynch does play Gordon.

What would cooper even have to come back to after 25 years? No mentioned family, twin peaks is basically unrecognisable and he'd have to adapt to life in modern society after 25 years of god knows what it would break him

>get back to this fine Bordeaux

>>87333292
S1: 9/10
S2 E1-9: 8.5/10
S2 E 10-19: 6/10
S2 E 20-22: 10/10
FWWM: 11/10
S3: 10.5/10

>>87333535
Lynch does scary shit like no other, definitely a carry over from his satanic explorations

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To the people who might have been confused by the end or think there's plot inconsistencies, while I won't go into any theories specifically or deny any criticism you might have. I do think it's important to understand several parallels drawn by David Lynch and where he took inspiration from to truly get what he was going for (or was trying to go for). I'm not going to explain any theory in and of itself, but I will try to lay a general line of thinking out on the table.

There's a clear inspiration taken by Lynch from a certain genre of anime, in particular the likes of Angel Beats (2010) and Charlotte (2015). Both heavily criticized for doing the exact same thing Twin Peaks did but it really does all fit together well if you're of an high IQ enough to understand and appreciate this type of story. I know this might come of as unbelievable but there's many similarities here and if you want a less complex version that might help you understand the Season 3 Finale of Twin Peaks I think it's best to have seen the aforementioned shows.
They might be a little rough, and things might seem odd. But that's exactly why it compares so well to Twin Peaks. You can see, going from the first to the second show the time that has passed in real time reflects within the show itself. AB (?) C (?). It's a rollercoaster ride much like Twin Peaks was (is? season 4?) and will likely help you answer many of the problems you might have had with the ending of the third season of Twin Peaks. They're diamonds in the rough. They're the crude oil running through the veins of our inner sanctum. But at the end of the day you can better understand Lynch as a person, a creator, and, most importantly, a human. What his eyes saw and what he tried to reflect. Through the works so brilliantly parodied by him that go beyond a subconscious mind.

If you've got 10 hours of free time, and want to understand Twin Peaks on a much higher plane, consume these 2 shows. Thank me later.

So what the fuck did the Giant's message even mean? This is the thing that bothers me the most I don't think I have seen any good answers for it.

>>87333570
I liked that shot of naomi's back desu

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Who's the biggest hack?

>>87333657
me

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>>87333632
reee forgot

Reminder that there's no official what actually happened, only "this is what I think happened".

>>87331364
>>87331462

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>>87333174
WTF I love Sheryl Lee now

>>87333613
We should make this into a meme.

tfw you realize Coop cant change the past or the future and he's stuck in a nightmare reality and with all his effort and willpower only managed to kill one of Judy's millions of eggs

>>87333657
Yoko. Christ, what was I thinking

>>87333583
yes because their styles are so so similar that making an educated guess is impossible, right?

>>87332817
>>87333455
>>87333606
http://variety.com/2017/tv/features/twin-peaks-david-lynch-interview-showtime-agent-cooper-1202445977/

>Would you do another season?
>I don’t know. You never say no. You don’t know what will happen. It depends on a lot of things.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/features/david-lynch-talks-twin-peaks-revival-mulholland-drive-w482337
>Will there be more Twin Peaks after this?
>I have no idea. It depends on how it goes over. You're going to have to wait and see.

The series just ended. Let the dude relax for a bit. There's no yes or no answer.

Wait, what the fuck was that monster in the glass box at the beginning of season 3? That was a genuinely terrifying thing.

>>87333576
>storylines for the older cast were wrapped up
>storylines for the younger cast were left open
woah it's almost like they planned to continue this or something

>>87332705

chad was a snake in the grass. He didn't belong to twin peaks and showed open disdain for every weird strait the other characters had learned to live with. He probably wanted things to make sense and became frustrated and angry because he could never learn to live with townspeople

Secretary probably served to show how ben horne had outgrown his youthful and dirty days

the coin trickster, the drug dealer red was forgotten, it sucks. He seemed only to show that shelly the waitress was going to fall for bad boy once again, despite being old. Probably a nod for twin peaks nostalgy.

Sarah Palmer was seen being a complete shell of person, instead living in half-alive state with black lodge spirits reigning over. The entity acted through her, violently as it had acted towards the young couple having sex in the beginning of season

Dr jacoby had lost his belief in human goodness. He sold empty, moronic and meaningless promises to gullible people. I don't know but he felt like a parody of some conspiracy radio host who speaks with great energy and blames government for everything but is actually just another businessman ready to fuck you over

Audrey and her husband seemed to be another jab at nostalgy-hungry fans of twin peaks. His husband was lynch fucking with old beloved character

Cooper was talking like badcoopah because once again he had travelled to "other side" and lost himself on the way, like he warned diane before they crossed at the powerlines. You could see his behavior became more stiff and dougie-like too

>>87333650
>weebshit
opinion discarded fuck off

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>The Palmer house is owned by Alice Tremond
>Previously owned by Chalfont

Cooper got Desmond'd!

>>87333615
S1: 9/10
S2:
Ep 1-9 ...8/1
Ep 10-21...3/10
Ep 22...10/22...10/10
FWWM: 10/10
S3: 8/10

Rewatched the finale. Exactly 25 minutes and 32 seconds of literally nothing happening. Driving, nobody talking, etc.

Fuck this show

>>87333324
I think its the "real" Cooper. He now has all the memories of Dopplecoop, and his own memories as good Cooper---and the balance out. Somewhere in Season 1 or 2, Hawk (or maybe the Major) says something about entering the black lodge being a "spiritual trial", and that those who can pass through the trial will come out changed.

This is the new Cooper. The happy-go-lucky Cooper never existed in events that happened at the sheriff's station. He appeared and disappeared, just like Jeffries. The new Cooper is jaded, a little quieter, but wiser. The old Coop would never shoot someone in the foot and would always smile and say yes to coffee. He was full of wonder, full of curiosity. Thats gone now.

You could say that Dougie is an extraction of the happy, bright Cooper.

>>87333489
It's the Super Funtime Happy Ending™
But it is actually just a dream.

Post Tammy's fat ass!

>>87333708
That was the Experiment - the same creature inside Sarah Palmer who killed both that couple and that redneck guy.

>>87333068
That's how i got it

But I'm still confused by the transition from one timeline to the other. I get that going wherever he went him and Diane started losing their own selves, but how did he know that "430 miles from there" he'd go to another reality and WHY did he want to go?

>>87333489
i mean for gods sake how obvious can it be that cooper is experiencing a saccharine heroes win ending from the black lodge before he gets forces back into reality because Judy is like NOT ON MY WATCH

This is a cartoon ending. Dragpncon literally got killed by one punch man and now all coopers friends are there to say hello and he gets the girl. lynch giveth and lynch taken away.

>>87333342
Oh gotcha. That house faces west, the light in the picture is mid to late afternoon sun out here, probably 3 or 4 PM.

>>87333576

>Judy snatched Laura away before Coop could save her and Coop is going tonoursue Laura in an endless cycle with Judy as the antagonist. Carrie/Laura recognized the truth and broke the dream

Wait, so when did the actual timeline end? Was it when Cooper first came to Twin Peaks?

>>87333740
hehehe

>>87333626
I want to believe that Lynch actually had the Monica Bellucci and Cooper dream and worked with Frost to put it in the season somehow.

>>87333657
>hating on Yoko
HEEEELLLLLOOOOOO REDDIT

>>87333480
The coordinates took him to Glastonbury Grove which then took him to the white lodge. But A. how would he have gotten into the white lodge and not the black lodge? and B. He spent about 2 minutes in the white lodge locked in a cage and then dumped outside the twin peaks sheriffs station. That last part can either be scene as the fireman sending him there to be disposed of or the fireman sending evil coop to kill everyone.

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who was the worst character on the show and why was it andy

>>87333689
Yeah i was gonna place the image on some dirtier pics but im on a blue board.

You now realize that laura breaks the dream when asked what year is it because she realizes she can't answer such an easy question

>>87333535
>tfw I didn't hear her when I first saw it
>I missed out.

>>87333724
are those fucking blue roses in the background

>>87333678
I'm assuming this is written by Lynch? So basically Lynch wanted exactly what we are doing now to happen? He wanted us to interpet it ourselves like we do a song and then have us discuss the meaning. Neat.

"I may have gone too far in a few places"
-David Lynch

>>87333625
No. Why would Lynch make an 18 episode season just to carry it on for another season? He had all the time in the world to bring things together and resolve everything but he doesn't want that to happen, this is it. It's done

>>87333785
It was all a part of the firemans plan. Remember that he sent Naido and Freddy there himself. He sent evil Coop there because he knew what would transpire already.

>>87333753
The Jumping Boy was clearly the creature inside Sarah Palmer

Unless you think the Jumping Boy is mother

>>87333681
Thiccccccccc

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>>87333781
>liking Yoko Onahole

this finale did not have enough pusy

>>87333750
RRRRRRRRRRRR to go

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>>87333790

>>87333790
Donna, James, and Harold Smith were all worse.

>>87333409
I was thinking something along these lines
in the original series he has some monologue to his tape recorder about how he wants to be nicer so he can spread more love and kindness into the world (or something like that)
he didn't bother being nice here because he knew there was no point trying to make an artificial reality better

I only want more twin peaks because I love it and I need more work from Lynch. Not because I think there is anymore to be told after s3

>>87333650
No one really wants to understand Lynch with this. Maybe if this was an original series, which maybe it should have been.

People wanted Twin Peaks, and they wanted the character interactions from 25 years ago, not Lynch's art.

People are shitposting not because they didn't understand it, but because they did not like it. And if they didn't understand it, they don't want to understand it because they did not like the ending. Not many people are going to read various theories and go "HOLY SHIT NOW I GET IT, MAN WHAT A GENIUS"

>>87333785
he was supposed to go to the palmer house, but the fireman moves the screen and sends him to the station where he would get killed by the gloved bloke

>>87333650
>muh anigay

Fuck off

>>87333790
Because the fireman showed him evil coop and good coop and he still got fucking tricked by him.

>>87333651
>430
how many miles it was from twin peaks to get to the time travel/alternate reality/dream world place
>you are far away
coop is far away in the sense that he's in an alternate reality/dream world (whatever interpretation you want)
>richard and linda
this is the new identity of coop and diane
>two birds with one stone
the only thing i have no idea about. maybe it's referring to tulpas?

>>87332705
Red was literally the most pointless character in Twin Peaks history. Even fucking Johnny Horne had more plot significance than him.

What was Booper trying to do anyway? It seemed to me that the giant and briggs trapped him and sent him to the sheriff so he could be killed, but what was his actual plan? Did he want to invade the giant's home or something and didn't expect them to be waiting for him?

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>>87333848
>no diane pusy

>>87333790
WRONG

>>87332948
I don't think he literally saw it but he could definitely feel some weird out of place "presence"

Of you watch portlandia and imagine that Kyle's character is actually special agent dale Cooper in a deep undercover op, it's kinda like 6 new seasons of twin peaks

>>87333864
>hating Harold Smith
REEEEEEE NORMIES LEAVE

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>>87333681
>Sheryl Lee is still gorgeous and in good shape at an age when most women have looked like melted wax for the last twenty years
>yet she's still single

I am 100% certain she has been traumatized from men due to abuse at Lynch's hands and no one will ever convince me otherwise.

So the giant/fireman just dreamed Laura into existence? Is this the real power of the lodge spirits? Does this mean all the characters are just creations of these spirits that are like dreamers? Are they just part of the giant and other spirits then?

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>>87333864

>>87333657
Lou Reed desu. David and Yoko are both talented, just annoying. Yoko more so.

>>87333785
Booper got tricked by the Fireman at the beginning the screen is showing exactly where Judy is (the Palmer's house) but the Fireman changes it to the station where one punch lad and the other pieces are set into place.

>>87333862
bobe btfo

>>87333746
People misunderstand that diner scene. Lynch showed us that scene to confirm that that is the real cooper. Real cooper stood up to people mistreating others. He shot a dude in the foot so he wouldn't get killed/hurt.

>>87332921
You're an idiot if you think that was Frost. Lynch's love of Wizard of Oz is well documented and displayed throughout his whole career.

>>87333589
kek

>>87333703
thinking you were educated was where you probably made your error faggot. just stop posting.

>>87333913
>of
Meant "if"

>>87333724
season 4 will be about richcoop and carrielaura having to find Chet Desmond to defeat Judy won't it

but in the end Desmond was Judy

and Cooper was Laura

>>87333708
Judy

>>87333825
He doesn't care about resolving things retard, Twin Peaks is just a playground for him to show in the screen all his ideas.

>>87333882
>it is in our house now
>listen to the sounds
referring to judy

>>87333882
>>two birds with one stone
maybe it's about making it right for laura and facing judy/saving sarah at the same time

>>87333818
That's from his book Catching the Big Fish. I recommend the audiobook version read by him.

>>87333955
no one's going to buy your book Mark

>>87332705
Just turn off your brain :^)

>>87333746
>that character that everybody loved? fuck that guy

>>87333746
Yeah that's interesting, so dougie was the manifestation of coopers good happy side and was created and sent to sonny Jim while the other bad or at least serious side of cooper a man with a mission went to try and fix the future or something.

>>87333681
>there are people in this general RIGHT NOW who don't want to watch a full season 4 with Sheryl's thicc milf ass in blue jeans

>>87332777
>>87332777
HELLOOOOOOOOOOO

>>87332705
>What was the deal with Chad? Why did he exist?
He was working with Red / Richard and the drug gang. I guess he's there to be a foil to the goody two shoes of TP sheriff's dept.

>What was the point of Norma and the whole RR franchise thing?
Nice fluff for fans of the original series. Also a commentary by Lynch & Frost on commercializing art and sacrificing integrity to gain a wider audience.

>What happened to Ben's secretary that wanted to fuck him?
No idea, honestly it was pointless. I guess it was just to show that Ben has changed. But really it was pointless, especially the scene of her bitching at her dying husband.

>Whatever happened to that weird guy who did the coin thing to Audrey's son?
Lynch forgot lel

>What was the deal with Sarah Palmer ripping that guys throat out?
She is clearly the girl from Episode 8, and the bug (who is presumably a form of the Jumping Man) has possessed her.

>What was the point of Dr. Jacoby and his show?
To give the audience some fun comedy involving the original cast

>What was the point of Audrey and her husband?
Nothing

>Who the fuck were those girls at the Roadhouse constantly?
Filler

>Why was Coop talking like BobCoop at the diner?
Because once he crossed over into the other reality, he was half Cooper (he had his memories) and half Richard or his Evil side.

>What the FUCK was the ending?
LYNCHED LOL

>>87333806
That wasnt it. Did everyone watch ep 18 with extremely low volume? You can hear someone calling "Laura! Laura...." and thats what freaks her out.

>>87333882
Two birds with one stone is what Coops plan is. I think he wants to save Laura and defeat Judy all in one go.

>>87333947
The real Cooper wouldn't nonchalantly wave a gun at random people and demand a waitresses address with a threatening undercurrent. He definitely wasn't Bad Coop, but there was also definitely something off about him.

>>87332877
i thought he said "Juden"

episode 18 is just the whole 3 seasons explained i think

>>87333765
When he rescued Laura in the forest since it altered the timeline

>>87333930
Yes. The spirits represent gods or pure consciousness. Human existence is just the dream of consciousness so that it can exist physically. Like the dreamer that dreams and lives inside the dream. Laura is a vessel of consciousness, all the characters are. Laure just so happens to also be the key to restoring balance between good and evil in the physical realm

>>87334005
Gotta admit, she did fill that denim mighty impressively.

>>87333952
You're right, I'm sure Frost has never seen Wizard of Oz so it had to be Lynch. You're a fucking genius

>>87333740
It's a technique used by Lynch to lure you into a semi-meditative state which makes you get spooked twice as hard when Laura screams at the end

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>>87333958
That... sort of makes sense.

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>>87333292
>S1: 10/10
>S2: Part 1: 7/10 Part 2: 5/10
>S2 Finale: 9/10
>FWWM/Missing Pieces: 9/10
>S3: 7/10
>S3 Ep. 8: 11/10
>S3 Finale: 9/10

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>>87333657
>inb4 muh funny poo poo jokes

>>87334055
Yes, he was slowing losing himself and becoming Richard

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>they expected closure

>>87333877
exactly.

I didn't want David Lynch Presents: A Surrealistic Nightmare for television

I wanted Twin Peaks

the glass box scene in New York and episode 8 never would have happened in the original run

>>87333959
This, he just wants to film his ideas, and it doesn't matter if they make sense to other people or not because in his mind, his art is about people trying to interpret it.

>>87332763
its hilarious seeing obese virgins be pretentious

>>87333740
Sheryl said an awful fucking lot w her eyes and body language. She delivers a concise little monologue that's understated and powerful in the middle of it too.

>>87334055
He knew he was in a manufactured reality. "Judy's Realm" if you want to call it that. He was just being wary because it was a high stakes situation to save Laura.

>>87333952
>a happy reunion equates to a wizard of oz reference

Lol no. I would bet good money that whole thing was a compromise and Frost was fighting for the corny fan service shit

Why did Cooper get the hotel key off the sheriff? Was it to make him more "original" before he was possessed?

>>87334118
you're disgusting

friendly reminder that lynch is dying and everyone in "the industry" knows it. also vedder lives

>>87333015
>>87333219
>>87333297
>>87333362

dummies. this is the alternate reality created by judy

>>87334121
Interpretation is almost like an extension of the art. Beauty lies within the art, but its a very superficial thing. The real, affecting beauty lies within each individuals' interpretation

>>87333998
It would be insanely weird for Cooper to come out of the lodge after being stuck in it for 25 years and be the same charismatic person he was when he went in. I always thought that when he got out, he'd be more serious and a little darker, what we got in part 18. Cooper at the sheriff station feels like a complete parody or a fantasy.

>>87334135
Probably, I think Frost is 100% responsible for One Punch Man and I love him for that. One Punch Man was a cool guy.

>>87332780
Well the exec producer is doing an AMA on reddit and said there are things she still can't talk about YET.

Also, it sounds like they filmed much, much more that wasn't shown and a few cast members let slip that they were playing "multiple" characters during filming. It's possible they filmed two seasons back to back and S4 will be in a Not-Twin Peaks where everyone is different.

Either that or this really is the end and they just filmed a ton of stuff that they decided to not use (like FWWM)

>>87334135
funny because lynch is the damn good coffee and cherry pie guy

Sheryl is amazing I'm stunned she never became a big actress. she's so good.

>>87334074
Could've been either obviously, I wasn't in the room when they wrote it. You're the retard who baselessly attributed it entirely to Frost despite the fact that it is a clear homage to a movie Lynch has homaged throughout his career.

>>87334167
But we saw him come out and be the same person in episode 16, and the reception was almost entirely positive

>>87334021
Could be a combination of both, her face when coop asks that is of confusion then perhaps she starts gaining consciousness and her memory starts coming back and so she hears that

>>87334113
There's closure if you are smart enough to understand what happened. I sure didn't but got spoonfed by /tv/.

>>87334179
The idea was kinda silly and I'm ok with that. I still think the execution of that scene/battle with BOB was embarrassing.

>>87334186
I think this is 100% correct. Season 4 IS happening!

>>87334140
To open the door underneath the Great Northern obv

>>87332877
I don't know what the official subtitles are but I assumed it was "Jao Dei" or some chink sounding shit.

>>87333877
This basically sums up my attitude towards the reboot as well

I wanted twin peaks with a dash of Lynch kino instead we got the reverse and it didn't work out well

>>87334140
he used it to get to Philip jeffries

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>>87334005
>we will never get a spinoff with Laura and Cooper both being Dougie-esque retards after escaping the Lodge going on wacky adventures

>>87334005
I thought I was the only one lmao

>>87334205
Joke's on you bud, /tv/ is too stupid to figure out what happened as well. 90% of the theories floating around are obviously bullshit.

Whatever happened to the woodsmen?
Whatever happened to coin dude?
Whatever happened to Audrey Horne?
Whatever happened to Hawke?
Whatever happened to Dr. Jacoby?
Whatever happened with Bobe and Shelly?
Whatever happened to their daughter?

>>87333877
>People wanted Twin Peaks, and they wanted the character interactions from 25 years ago, not Lynch's art.

Maybe some people did.

>>87334118

You're a piece of shit.

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How did Coop know how to get to the other reality?

reminder that the Hawk in the woods scene was not a fast forward and never went anywhere

Laura is obviously the antithesis of Judy and it's why we see her creation immediately after the evens of EP8. It's also why Bob was obsessed with her. Bob being a child/agent of Judy would want to destroy her.

Cooper was going to save Laura from her death at the hands of Bob so Judy plucked her away to a separate reality.

>>87334118
True but people that love Lynch will hate you for this opinion

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