/tpg/ - Twin Peaks General:

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>>87330588
1st for jumping man

Friendly reminder that it doesn't matter if it was real or not. That's never the point. There's no such thing in the world as absolute reality. Most of what they call real is actually fiction. What you think you see is only as real as your brain tells you it is. Don't obsess over words so much. Find the meaning behind the words, then decide.

Diane was a mistake

Green glove cockney fighting Bob was a mistake

The litany of unresolved plotlines were mistakes

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Does Lynch watch anime?

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IS THIS PEAK TELEVISION? FOR A WHILE AT LEAST?!

We are the dreamers

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>>87330611

Disappointed by the treatment of mr.c and BOB

>>87330667
This. David Lynch is the Hideo Kojima of film.

>Cooper is just some weird guy in Texas who imagines things

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what was your favorite scene this season?

It's a never ending dream.

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Friendly reminder that we witnessed the final missing Page from Laura's diary.

Serves him right. He trusted David Lynch.

>>87330611
kek, sometimes I think that we live in Lynch's dream and that he had foreknowledge of our memes, which he shaped the season around

>leaping lad posting
>JUDYposting
>CUTEposting

it goes on and on

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Lore-free interpretation here:

By saving Laura Coop destroyed Twin Peaks as we know, because it is defined by its "lack" of Laura. This entire season the show has gradually been "becoming itself" via things like

>early episodes not having much music, then gradually gaining more Angelo
>scene settings taking place far from Washington, but all of the characters ultimately converge there
>Norma deciding to keep a single RR instead of branding it
>Shelly dating a drug dealer again
>Becky being set up to be another teenager tragically killed, like Laura
>early episodes feature a lot of 2010's technology and branding, but it gradually fades away
>Gordon Cole himself is the one to introduce the cheesy damn fine phrases and whatnot


The show finally "becomes itself" when Coop re-enters town in episode 17, just like in S1E1. But he destroys all of this by saving Laura. Our show, "Twin Peaks," cannot exist as long as she is not killed.

We will never come across a show quite like this one that has polarized so many people, made us laugh, cry, rage and argue over meaning more than this show has.

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>>87330611
remember how the whole leaping lad thing was just a joke one poster obsessed over and then it turned out to be the biggest most important lodge spirit lol

There was no time travel. That's why the scream when it "fails" is the same as when Laura is sucked out the lodge. Coop was in the lodge the entire time.

Don't you get it. The point is that you can never return to Twin Peaks. Cooper's return was fleeting just like this season, now Cooper is trapped in a kind of purgatory potentially forever because there is no going back after what happened in the original series. It's over.

>>87330703
When evil cooper walked into the mobster base and won the arm wrestle. 2 words. hella f*ckin epic!!

post literal whos you follow on twitter that were absolutely L Y N C H E D

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Defend this bullshit
>no set design, feels empty and lifeless
>no interesting ideas for storylines and generally bad writing (Only Diane and Audrey were raped and only offscreen, green glove man doesn’t use his STD-proof glove and super strength to fist James)
>horrible dialogue that’s unoriginal or just bad ("fuck you, albert" “I was raped by Cooper” “Holy shit dougie your cock is 13 inches long” “Wilson so help me God if you fuck up one more time I will skull your entire family to death and ship your ass out Guantanamo Bay to get gangraped for the rest of your miserable life”,etc. )
> flat, one-dimensional characters (Major Briggs, Phillip Jeffries)
>storylines and characters are introduced for no purpose (Homeless men raping people in the 1950’s, security guards running off to masterbate in New York alleyway’s, etc.)
>shot in digital in a way that doesn't compensate for the technology's disadvantages (looks yucky)
>roadhouse scenes (Not enough Eddie Vedder, everyone didn’t ask when Eddie Vedder isn’t on screen ‘Where is Eddie Vedder and what is he doing’)
>student-tier storytelling/editing (characters are shown walking, very short descriptions of rape scenes with no use of floating heads or dog bones)
>obviously delusional and/or inexperienced fanbase perceiving it as particularly complex or "deep" (Cooper clearly never got his mind back as Eddie Vedder beautifully sang)
>can't compare to the original series that doesn't have those problems (James beautiful storylines, Harry being pushed to the limit trying to stop the love of his life from killing his best friend, Windom Earle and his genius plans and very subtly villainous acting)
>extended pitch black scenes because of a lack of a competent cinematographer
>audio issues with microphone static left unaddressed because of poor sound design
>somehow the best thing in tv history

>>87330751
source to the gif?

So are the lodge spirits actually spirits or are they magicians or aliens or what?

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AND YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND

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>>87330777
>2 words. hella f*ckin epic!!

reposting from previous bread because it is so goddamn true

>This is a huge middle finger to the execs and audiences who wanted to see the murder solved– so much changed in the space of an hour that there is literally no chance of us ever finding out what it was that laura said to cooper in the lodge, which is exactly what lynch originally intended.

Lynch finally got his chance to withhold a crucial secret to the story (being what was whispered from Laura). He finally got his chance to make a new mystery without pressure of a revelation, and he is reveling in it.

With that said though, I really wouldn't mind a movie after this. I don't think it will happen because Lynch finally got away with keeping this mystery a secret, but obviously i'd like a tad more info on what the fuck is going on. A season would be ridiculous at this point.

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post characters/plot threads you completely forgot about

>>87330669
>Diane was a mistake
yeah honestly

>Green glove cockney fighting BOB was a mistake
lol no, that scene was hilarious

>unresolved plotlines
only some actually bothered me, namely Becky and Steven along with Red

So lads, what are the chances for season 4? I'd wager they are reasonably high at this point.

All I'm getting at from these threads is that you're not allowed to take offense with the ending or find it unfair for any reason, otherwise you don't "get it".

>>87330734

But it is something like that. It goes for everybody some people understand it better.

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Nearly everything has already been answered and all the general is now is the same people reposing the same pasta asking the same questions over and over even though they have already been answered. Extremely condensed answers follow;

>Cooper and Carrie Page are in 2017 (multiple confirmation from screenshots, such as gas prices, town population)
>Carrie is a completely different person who has lived a completely different life
>Audrey is in a coma. Every Audrey scene takes place inside her own mind
>Annie was murdered by Dopplecoop after he raped Audrey and burned down Briggs office
>Sarah Palmer is possessed by Jow-Daeh, she always has been since she was a child
>The girl in episode eight is young Sarah Palmer
>The two people driving the car at night are Richard and Linda, not Dale and Diane
>When Linda sees the vision of Diane at the motel that is Diane and Coop starting to enter their world. After this Richard and Linda have sex, then Coop wakes up in the other hotel
>Jow-Daeh stabs the picture in fury because Cooper helped Laura escape her death
>Cooper travels to the lodge, then to the real world 1988, then back to the lodge to rescue the real Diane, then to the new reality that rescuing Laura created
>Mike was never good, and the lodge spirits have always been advancing their own plans involving Laura, not helping Cooper
>Carrie screams at the end because she is experiencing memories crossing over from Laura's reality

For expanded versions of these answers and more simply watch the show. It's all on the screen.

>>87330588
which was the bigger middle finger to Twin Peaks fans, Leland smashing the television in Fire Walk With Me, or ending The Return on a cliffhanger?

I liked how the last ep just turned into lost highway

>>87330751
1st for Jumping Man poster, even though often hideously drunk and full of Maltesers, was definitely on to something.

I really really hate the idea of time travel and dont' think there's any "reality" in which Laura's murder was undone. It's lazy and cheapens the entire show.

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>>87330588
So now that the dust has finally settled, we all in /tpg/ can now agree in one unanimous voice that

MILF Sheryl > Young Sheryl

Right?

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>>87330815
A SHAME YOU SEEMED AN HONEST MAN

>>87330837
they are literally 0%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB1GzOhaSuk

>0:15

AYUDAME

>>87330719
>missing Page

you're onto something

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>>87330667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tOhAIk-b_8

>>87330837
Zero. Lynch said he is done with Twin Peaks. Fans hate it too. Frost's book is titled the "FINAL Dossier".

F

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For those complaining about the ending, lynch was generous enough that he gave us two endings, one for plebs and one for cool people

pic related is the ending for plebs, take it you want

>>87330843
No it is meant to make you feel dread because it is what Cooper is feeling. The point is to make you understand what happened to Cooper. He is trapped in a nightmare, you couldn't protect that smile he is gone forever.

>>87330843
>find it unfair

Grow up you fucking, baby hahahaha

Is this how people who watched the finale of s2 when it aired felt?

>>87330719
what was it?

>"Nervous about meeting J tonight."
>That was the last entry

J was Judy not James, Cooper and Laura are in Judy's universe.

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>>87330815
A SHAME YOU SEEMED AN HONEST MAN

>>87330843
L Y N C H E D
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I really dont understand why everyones having a shit fit with this
The ending is pretty obvious if you think about it for a couple of hours

17, was the original ending and everything is thrown out of wack when judy takes laura, thats implied with the resturant Laura works in the dream and Sarah stabbing her prom picture cause she was supposed to die that night. The show keeps going and ends with juilie crews and the red curtains as if thats supposed to be the ending

18, is the unexpected epilogue ending of the show and in lauras dream, her screaming and then everything suddenly black shows the dream is over.
They werent gonna play the theme and happily ever after stuff cause they just did that in 17. Cooper isnt mr.c or any of that bullshit the dude clearly didnt see this coming and knows he's in a fake world when interacting with everyone in the diner.

Cooper didnt fuck up, he was looking for the final push in the end to get laura to wake up but didnt know how, it was the one time he didn't. Then laura screams realizing its a dream and that does it. Its over.

As for Diane she clearly remembered who she was when being Linda so having sex with richard reminder her of the rape of mr.c so either she doesnt exist or moved on as linda for good.

Its not the afterlife, its not an alternate reality, its a fucking dream, almost all of lynch's films have always tied with a dream towards the end of the story.

>>87330815
>>87330877
>>87330915
serial experiments laura lol

So the big question that never got answered....

Who the FUCK was the anonymous billionaire who funded thatblack box in New York?

>>87330677
Maybe I'm just weebshit but this entire ending felt like the fucking Madoka movie.

>the hero thinks he can save an innocent life by going back in time
>all it does is screw things up and eventually lead to the creation of an entirely new world

>>87330873
>MILF Sheryl > Young Sheryl
>>87330873
I'd say so. Unironically.
I never found Young Sheryl that attractive.
But MILF Sheryl stratches some kind of an itch.
She looks fun.
Young Sheryl looked annoying.

>>87330669
>Diane was a mistake

Yes

>Green glove cockney fighting Bob was a mistake

Yes

>The litany of unresolved plot lines were mistakes

No

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>>87330669
>finally, Cooper is going to face down BOB himself!

>...actually some limey One Punch Man is going to get into a fist fight with a bowling ball with BOB's face on it

>>87330837
The final two episodes wrapped everything up. There's literally nothing left.

>>87330890
Thinking about it, The Return has a lot in common with MGSV.

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>>87329982
>Maridueña's unique look is a gift of his multicultural background (he is of Mexican, Cuban and Ecuadorian heritage), and his unique name means "Dog Star" in the indigenous Nahuatl (Aztec) language.
it's not that he's non-white, a native american child actor (that looks very much like BOB as well) is going to be be fairly rare and was obviously chosen for this reason. he even looks a bit flamboyant and gay like Silva
though it could also be a red herring like most of the storylines in this fucking show

>>87330939

Booper

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>>87330786
>"DAMNIT, RAY, YOU KNEW IT WAS MY TURN WITH SHERYL!"

>>87330962
add it to the list
1. NGE
2. Lain
3. One Punch Man

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>>87330611
>>87330751
Frenlo & Mother won bigly. lol at Coopers stupidity

>>87330832
I started rewatching the series and there's so much that I completely forgot

>>87330915
AND ALL THE THINGS YOU HOLD SO DEAR

Now that season is over, finally binging it all, on episode 6. Why the fuck won't anyone help Coop even though he has obvious issues? They mention he is messed up but then still are like do this.

Is what's happening to Cooper now what happened to Phillip?

What Phillip a rambling and screaming mess because he'd been bounced between realities and times where everything kept changing?

Will Coop come back as a giant talking toaster in season 4?

What was up with that phone call scene in the Roadhouse? Remember when someone called Jaques-Renault and he got pissed and said his family owned the Roadhouse for generations and that's never closing? What was the fucking point in that scene?

>>87331041
you will know why

>>87330845
what? try english

>>87330837
I loved both the return and its headfuck finale, but pls no. let sleeping dogs lie. We were lucky enough to get a resolution to the s2 cliffhanger, anything more would just be drastic overkill

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>>87331038
WILL TURN TO WHISPER IN YOUR EAR

POLLS - POLLS - POLLS

WILL THERE BE A SEASON 4?
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HOW WAS THE FINALE AND THE SERIES OVERALL?
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>two birds with one stone
>birds represent female reproduction in the birds and the bees
>stone represent male balls
>Cooper nutted in Diane who is also Linda
>he nutted in two birds with his one stone
BRAVO LYNCH

>>87330837
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>>87330939

Why is this so hard

It's either evil Coop, or it's Duncan Todd on his behalf.

>>87331030
During the marathon I kept thinking to myself "Oh yeah. This happened."

>>87330899
this is exactly what i'm feeling, i really don't care about stuff that wasn't tied up, just that Coop is stuck in some nightmare

>>87330734
Don't forget sneaky Kyle in the bushes scaring Laura

>>87330815
PRESENT DAY
PRESENT TIME
H A H A H A H A
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>>87330669
>Diane was a mistake
YES
>Green glove cockney fighting Bob was a mistake
no
>The litany of unresolved plotlines were mistakes
some of them for sure

So what was the sound in the great northern?

>>87330898
this, plebs can literally just pretend that part 18 didn't happen and in their mind it has the perfect ending

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>>87331038
WILL TURN TO WHISPER IN YOUR EAR

>>87331121
L Y N C H E D
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>>87331061
What was with the girl crawling and screaming
What was with the Billy scenes
What was with the girl with the rash

There's probably others but I can't remember.

Seems like the problem with the return is that Lynch is still opposing the outdated idea of pop culture. He's aware that he needs to create a straw man for the hero and a strawman for the audience because he doesn't understand "this timeline". It's a shame because of how insightful Inland Empire was.

>>87331121
Bushnell heard the same sound at the hospital after Coop woke up

I kinda want a movie desu lads.

>no shitty CGI
>mind fuckery out the wazoo
>no dumb subplots that go nowhere

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>>87330873
Young Sheryl is cute as fuck but I never really found her hot in a sexual way

MILF Sheryl is hot as fuck though

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>>87330972
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>>87330895
>Lynch said he is done with Twin Peaks
>>87331030

stop spreading bullshit guys

Friendly reminder that s4 is confirmed


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/has-twin-peaks-been-a-hit-showtime-1034370

>From a financial perspective, Nevins says Twin Peaks has exceeded expectations.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/culture/television/twin-peaks-sherilyn-fenn-audrey-david-lynch/

>If David Lynch wanted to do another season of Twin Peaks, would you do it? “Oh yeah. He said if people loved it he would do another one, and the hardest part is just sitting down and writing it. But he had so much fun this time, he really loved it. And he got to do it the way he wanted to. It’s like an 18-hour movie, so he’s happy. Let’s just stay positive. It really turned out the way he wanted it to in his heart.”

https://twitter.com/SHO_TwinPeaks/status/902177684817661952

>the suit goes back into the archives, to be worn at a future day, maybe, no idea, keep your fingers crossed

http://deadline.com/2017/08/twin-peaks-no-second-season-showtime-david-lynch-david-nevins-tca-1202144491/

>David Nevins : , “the door’s always open to David Lynch, whether that would lead to another season, I don’t know if he wants to do it,”

Has anyone came up with an actual logic based idea behind what is being represented by the super imposed "we live inside a dream" Cooper in 17?

>>87330939
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>>87331148

those questions don't matter

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I loved every second of it.
I mean I was confused at times (insert the overlay of Kyle MacLachlan's face over screen) but I think it was groundbreaking tv happening before our eyes.

To the animefags here, yeah, it kinda felt like Neon Genesis Evangelion series ending mixed with EoE. Except actually good.

>>87331127
how was it perfect if we don't know what happened to Laura? She was supposed to have been saved, but she got disappeared

You’re a fine man, Bushnell Mullins. I will not soon forget your kindness and decency.

>>87330836
>lol no, that scene was hilarious
That's the problem. Him foiling chad was great, but a so-bad-its-funny scene being the downfall of Bob was so disloyal to the first two seasons.

>>87331121
It was the lodge fucking around.

>>87330898
Yet it had to ruin it with his "art" of cooper's face in the shot.

>>87330746

interesting, honestly. Its like a fading nostalgic dream that you try to slowly recollect

What did Laura whisper to Coop in the lodge?

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>>87331128
AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY MIGHT HURT YOU

>>87331019
kek

I wish the vedderfags had been right

>>87331121

Lodge related activities.

Hence why Cooper was able to enter through a door there.

>>87330815
>tfw tried to watch Lain and made it 6 episodes in before dropping it

I'm usually fine with abstract storytelling and slow-paced shows but for some reason I just couldn't stand it in that specific instance.

>>87331128
TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN... oh wait

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>>87331090
>somebody actually voted 'The series was poor, but the finale was good.'

>>87330872
>dont' think there's any "reality" in which Laura's murder was undone
There was. Otherwise they wouldn't have shown Pete going out to fish.

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this has to one of the scariest scenes ive ever watched

I dont fucking care about any of the shitty townspeople in twin peaks. I fell in love with the show because of Laura Palmer. FWWM was one of the greatest movie's I've seen because of Laura Palmer. The ending was GOAT because of Laura Palmer.

>>87331169
I didn't say that chances are 0% because Lynch supposedly said so. I know he didn't. But doing season 4 would make no fucking sense. Just that. It would go against almost everything Lynch was doing here.

>>87331171
It was his internal realization that something is wrong and that he is trapped inside a dream. Basically he said the same line as Jeffries in FWWM which shows he came to the same realization as Jeffries about reality or at least his reality. It's the moment where everything falls apart and things stop making sense. It appears like they make sense for the rest of 17 but 18 proves that wasn't the case.

>>87331041
It's a meta commentary about how Lynch is fucked up but no one will help him.

>>87331050
yeah, what happened to Cooper is what happened to Chet and Jefferies.

it's a never ending cycle of murdered girls, FBI agents, and trying to stop Judy.

>>87330907
Carrie Page (lol)

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>when you realize that without /ourguy/, One Punch Lad wouldn't have broken out of the cell to fight Mr. C
Apologize to Chad for inadvertently saving the day

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We will have to reconcile with the question that if someone from outside our familiar world gains access to our plane of existence, what ramifications will that entail? There might be forces at work from deep dimensional space, or from the future…or are these one in the same? Think of the events that could have splintered time? The things that could have laid the seed for a starting point for this development?

>>87331166
This is the greatest sense of denial out of any inane theories have come out of these threads. Look at that disgusting jaw and saggy mouth. Kind of pretty above her nose but her body has not aged well either... the concave breasts and flat ass...

>>87330898
Both endings are unsatisfactory though.

One undermines the meaningful ending that FWWM had, and to a lesser extent the whole of the original run.

The 'pleb ending' is godawful in that everything gets resolved with very little effort, and focus is put on Coop and Diane reuniting, rather than Coop and Cole, or Coop and the Sherriff's station crew.

>>87331248

They showed it, but they then showed Laura magically vanishing and screaming (the same scream from when she was ripped out the black lodge)

It's all in Coop's head. He's doomed to keep trying and failing to change the past.

Reminder that the ancient rape demon that is treated extremely seriously in both the original series and fwwm and the source of the most scary and memorable scenes got beaten to death by a side character with a superpowered glove in a cgi fight

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>>87331200
AND YOU KNOW THAT IT MEANS SO MUCH

>>87331148
Literally none of those are important or interesting.

>>87331251
same
got a little heart attack

>>87331196
>Yet it had to ruin it with his "art" of cooper's face in the shot.

Thats probably the most brilliant and creative thing in the entire season, it covers the entire scene with tension with just with that simple and subtle trick.

>>87331210
why did Coops room key open the door in the boiler room?

>>87331276
Not true, Andy was going down to get them out of the cells.

>>87331199
that s4 is not happening

>>87330872
I think part of what made the finale so affecting and profound for me was the realisation that there is no conclusion which will feel satisfactory. Either we get the hammy clusterfuck of resolutions that was ep17, or we get a world without the wonderful, enveloping experience that is the twin peaks phenomenon. The fact that lynch chose to include both demonstrates just how far he can take the show, but I don't think its "cheap" in any sense. Instead its showing us the painful and disappointing reality of having our wishes fulfilled, whether that be seeing the s2 cliffhanger finally resolved in a crappy cgi boxing match, or ending on an even greater and more disturbing mystery.

>>87331265

So if we're going by that logic did S3 even happen?

I can totally go along with a logic that Cooper is just in the black lodge and everything we see is various fantasies on his behalf of saving and undoing everything that's happened, and he just keeps failing.

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>>87330611
but why did he run down the stairs instead of jump?

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I wish Sheryl was my gf

>>87331299
Reminder that if you complain about the scene, you have been LYNCHED

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>>87330873
My man.

>>87331278
fruitcake

>yfw the whole Cooper/Diane thing was because Lynch played Deadly Premonition and wanted something similar to the Zach/York dynamic

>>87331169
Lmao their desperate for him to do it. He's done and he's been leading them on

>>87331299
top 10 anime fight desu

So was it the bunny?

>>87331265
This

He's realized that "reality" is just the dreams of the lodge spirits, and that to be awake is to join them

>>87330815
that song syncs up way too well with the last scene

did all the normies with their dumb normie holiday fuck off and stop shitposting finally?

>>87331345
I'm not sure I would say it probably did happen but a lot of stuff in it was bizarre enough to be like a dream so I think you could make a case that it is all part of Dale's nightmare.

>>87330932
>18, is the unexpected epilogue ending of the show and in lauras dream, her screaming and then everything suddenly black shows the dream is over.They werent gonna play the theme and happily ever after stuff cause they just did that in 17. Cooper isnt mr.c or any of that bullshit the dude clearly didnt see this coming and knows he's in a fake world when interacting with everyone in the diner. Cooper didnt fuck up, he was looking for the final push in the end to get laura to wake up but didnt know how, it was the one time he didn't. Then laura screams realizing its a dream and that does it. Its over.
Trying to rationalize it into a happy ending is pathetic. Cooper is clearly not comfortable in what is happening at the end there. A bloodcurdling scream isn't a hint that it was all a dream, either. Nice theory but it doesn't have much basis in the show.

>>87330850
>Mike was never good, and the lodge spirits have always been advancing their own plans involving Laura, not helping Cooper
Never trusted that slippery fuck

>>87331299
it was his fackin destiny mate

>>87331301
AND YOU DON'T EVEN FEEL A THING

The scene with Laura and James speaking in the forest was amazing, how did they get de-aging CG that good when most of the season has effects on par with a student film?

>>87331330

Don't know. But it did.

>>87331299
Filming anything outside of the Red Room or that "Above the Convenience Store" was a mistake. Introducing random shit past BOB and MIKE was a mistake.

>>87331345
it's not his dream. reality is the dream of the lodge spirits

just because it's a dream doesn't mean it didn't happen

>>87331265
Is Dale Cooper Vivec?

>tfw you finally come to terms with the ending

Feels damn good

>>87331434
bait

>>87331251
Why was the physical Palmer house so significant in the final few episodes? The part I have the most trouble with trying to piece it all together.

Also was the 8 formed from the "bug" thing by Phillip the house number or something else entirely?

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Why was BOB a complete after thought in this season?

He seemingly just lets the doppelganger do all the work and just shares his power with him or something.

Then he comes out as an orb, gets punched around, says 'catch you with my death bag' for some reason and just dies, no one even mentions his name.

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>>87331301
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW

>>87331253
Go to bed David

>>87331434

Because the "bad" cgi is all artistic choices.

>>87331475
frank silva dead my dude

>>87331308
Then why were they in the show? If they had no importance plot wise, then they must have some artistic meaning right? Except there's literally no metaphor or meaning in those shots. They add nothing but padding. All three of those shots could have been gone and none of my thoughts on the series would change.

>>87331169
> has no idea what confirmed means

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>>87331359
Sorry anon she's mine

>>87331278
Was this from his website? If it was I think it confirms they went to a different dimension because of the line about deep dimensional space and the future or time being the same. I think that may be the truth. That essentially traveling through time and entering a dream world are the same thing.

>>87330881
>>87330895
>>87330972
>>87331078
>>87331099
http://variety.com/2017/tv/features/twin-peaks-david-lynch-interview-showtime-agent-cooper-1202445977/

>Would you do another season?
>I don’t know. You never say no. You don’t know what will happen. It depends on a lot of things.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/features/david-lynch-talks-twin-peaks-revival-mulholland-drive-w482337
>Will there be more Twin Peaks after this?
>I have no idea. It depends on how it goes over. You're going to have to wait and see.

Lynch is unclear if there will be more. There's no "yes" or "no" answer. Let the man relax for a while, and the ideas might come flooding.

>>87331165
>No shitty cgi
You know full well if they gave Lynch a 500 million dollar budget for a movie there would still be plenty of shitty cgi
He loves it

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Sheryl's son is just as cute as her! CUTE!

Do you guys complain about unresolved plot points when you wake up after having an awesome weird fucking dream? If not, then stop doing it now ffs.

>>87331513
(poster is evil cooper)

>>87331475
the actor that played bob is dead and they didn't want to recast him

>tfw finally realising why Sherilyn Fenn had a breakdown

Hahahahahahahah she thought she was going to be a lead in this and be cooper's love interest and from it restart her career hahahahaha

>>87331505
Fuck ageing. Seriously.

>>87330588
whats the best rip to rewatch the series? amzn webrip or strife?

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>>87331430
I AM FALLING

>>87330850
>>Sarah Palmer is possessed by Jow-Daeh, she always has been since she was a child
So the Jumping Man is the physical manifestation of Judy?

>>87331470

From the fan I guess it's just safe to assume the house is in someway linked to the lodge/other worldly.

>>87331434

>de-aging CGI

IT WAS LEFTOVER FOOTAGE FROM THE FWWM FILMING INTENDED FOR THE SEQUELS, SAME AS THE EXTENDED SEASON 2 FINALE FOOTAGE

>>87331169
>Season 4 is confirmed
>A bunch of quotes saying "if Lynch wants to do it, I'm in!"
>No quote from Lynch saying "I want to do it"
Doesn't sound confirmed

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CATCH YOU WITH MY DEATH BAG

>>87331536
what a proud mommy

Atleast big ed got a complete story arc

>>87330679
Forever

>>87331510

It's creating a world. You're getting a snapshot on Twin Peaks 25 years later.

>>87331225
I dont remember posting this

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>>87331555

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>>87331475
For the same reason jeffries is- if anything there was a decent amount of BOB considering. Picked up this cute little demonic sex predator for $5 yesterday.

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>>87331555
I AM FADING

>>87331539
>it's a dream bro, don't expect any resolution
ebin

Just imagine if we got a season 4 though. Pretty much every episode would be like 18 I would seriously watch that even if there is no actual plot.

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I just finished the finale
I'm LYNCHED as fuck but I'm also kinda happy.

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>>87331601
I HAVE LOST IT ALL

>>87331510
Billy was some guy Audrey was invested in and who went drunk driving. The rash girl was friends with the others who would be involved with the James fight that ended with James going to jail. They're all part of the overall story but are not interesting or important to expand on by themselves.

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>>87331536
>you will never be a proud mummy

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So considering Coop repeats Jeffries' "We live inside a dream" line, and how Jeffries is one that sends Coop back in time, do you guys think there's like a sort of parallel or, if you like, a doubling between the two? Both FBI agents who get too close (to Judy?) and attain a supra-natural power, find themselves in a time loop, and end up failing their mission forever.

>>87331539
Only plebs care about plotlines

>>87331606
There was resolution though, you saw Bad Cooper get destroyed as well as Bob. And all the most important characters, the ones at the sheriff's station, were safe. Even Dougie went back to Janey-E and Sonny Jim.

>>87330703
Too many to choose just one but,

>Got a light?
>Sarah killing that dude in the bar and smashing Laura's picture
>Desert scene with Dougie and Mitchums
>Bad Coop entering the gas station and speaking with Jeffries
>First Coop / Naido scene
>Shadows playing at the end of E2 with the some of the old cast in the bar
>Just You
>Nuke scene / Experiment stuff

Might be the GOAT TV season.

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>>87331525
Yes - all the "shitty cgi" is based on his art.

Is Becky dead?

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>there are actually people who think Laura waking up on the day Sarah called her to go to school instead of having died the night before is a good thing when at the end of FWWM she was overjoyed to be dead and finished with the daily rape, abuse, self-loathing and demonic torment

There were no unresolved plot lines. ZERO. they weren't plot lines. They were parables. The season is full of Buddhist concepts like impermanence, suffering, mindfulness, compassion, the true nature of reality, tulpas, etc.

If you're mad it's because you didn't get it.

>>87331143
this is getting old
it was funny when someone was mad about the show but you faggots ruin the joke

Why the fuck DL is so subversive?

>Lynch singlehandedly causes all future TV series contracts to give even further creative control to the networks in fear that a series might perform poorly due to the director's artistic vision

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>>87330815
Reminded me of Lain for sure and some other stuff. I dont know if he's ever spoken about it but Orpheus, especially last night, seems to be a minor inspiration. I love his classic Hollywood reverence and homage, the Sunset Blvd and Gilda stuff in Mulholland, Oz in Wild at Heart.

>>87331551
She looks fine

>>87331475
SOMETHING WRONG
I HOLD MY DEAD
BOB A BALL
FRANK SILVA DEAD

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>mfw ruby's scream was forewarning everyone of the ending

it literally has the lights flash and go out the exact same way too holy fuck

>>87331683
It is heavily implied.

>>87331688

uhh uhh s-so just like fucking rick and morty then! god i hate the liberels!

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>>87331448
I've accepted it, but I don't feel good about it.

>>87330703
That whole sequence with the Mitchum bros up until the credits roll was fantastic. Probably one of my favorite scenes if not my favorite. Ironically it is a very "coffee and cherry-pie" scene figuratively and literally so I'm surprised those people are so upset by this season.

What a shitty finale. After 25 years, Lynch can't tell us what we all want to know.

Does Hawk hate white people?

>>87331683
doesn't matter.

>>87331687
But they killed BoB in the future. Maybe that killed him in the past too.

Friendly reminder that the Fireman pulled out young Laura after Coop rescued her in the forest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkXMnOLrN4M
The sound the gramophone makes is the same Cooper hears before Laura dissapears

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>>87331698

>>87331688
Delusional Lynchfags would call literally anything he makes profound,

>>87331713
I read that The Return did pretty well actually.

>>87331722
HOLD MY HEAD*
FUCK

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>>87331721

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>>87331041
>waitfags never enjoyed prime /tpg/

Yfw every side plot ended in every character being killed in a shootout

>>87331750
But what does that mean?

>>87331662
Sorry, I should have said a satisfying resolution

Because Mr C and Bob both being pushovers, defeated by Lucy and some cockney guy while Coop did essentially nothing, was far from satisfying.

And to make matters worse, Coop then goes on his damn fool quest without any kind of reunion, so the 16 episodes of buildup to his return was thrown away again.

>>87331183
That pic... I feel like if you can't explain why your art is the way you say it is then you're a faggot.

>>87331713
Nah, that era is long gone. Producers now understand that everything has its audience and becoming a cult classic is the best thing that can happen to a tv series.

>>87331742
>Does Hawk hate white people?
We knew the answer since original run.

>>87331523

Lynch definitely wrote himself a way back in if he ever wants to revisit it, but enough of a conclusion for things to be relatively satisfying on their own. He's hedged his bets quite well.

Personally, I'm holding out for Missing Pieces 2.0. I imagine there's a fuckton of unaired footage that didn't make the final cut just like there was with FWWM.

>>87331765
it dudnt

I hope we get an LA focused spinoff, based around the Fusco Boys, Randall and Wilson, and the wacky criminals.

>>87331688
2deep4me

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>>87331807

>>87331789
I don't think that is a real quote anon.

I guessed that the scream was coming. But still it spooked me.

Time to rewatch and pretend I wasn't lynched.

>>87331683
Probably.

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>>87331765
>this is good
uh oh

>>87331807
>LA
they're in Las Vegas, NV

Is TV too expensive to crowdfund or is it not a valid way of funding professional productions?

>>87331356
VERY fast frenlo running at incredibly hihg speed

>>87331807
>spinoff
Holy shit, can /got/ tier posters fuck off already?

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>>87331636
HELP ME TO BREATHE

>>87331802
It did well because Showtime literally has jack shit going for them besides Peaks right now and the show clearly didn't cost much to make

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>>87331723
>SHE WAS WARNING US ALL ALONG

>SHE WAS WARNING US ALL ALONG

>SHE WAS WARNING US ALL ALONG

>SHE WAS WARNING US ALL ALONG

>>87331824
I have a feeling it is a genuine quote

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>>87331510
I fucking hate you faggots, does everything in real life have to have some meaning and be some new subplot in the main plot of your life
Fuck you

What were the Russian "leaks"? How vague were they? Just synopses for the episodes right?

>>87331747
It probably worked like in Austin Powers where the past and the future are two con-current timelines.

>>87330669
>Diane was a mistake

Yep. Tulpa Diane was fine but the Naido and then Richard/Linda shit felt super unearned. After spending zero time with the real Diane, I couldn't care about her involvement in 17/18.

It also ruins the fun of 'we never got to see diane, still!' if she exists beyond the tulpa's death.

>>87331840
It's got 2 million viewers for each episode on average, not just nielson ratings, but including streamers who watch it at different times.

I have not seen Log Lady snippets, Missing Pieces or read the supplementary books.

Missing Pieces seems essential, but do I miss anything from Laura's diary or the Secret History?

>>87330611
tfw coop fucked up hardcore, laura wasn't afraid of her dad anymore because bob was out of the picture, but her mom is still there

>>87331889
I'm pretty sure he explained why it's his most spiritual film and it had to do with things outside of the film and not anything within the film. He didn't explain the meaning of eraserhead or anything.

>>87331891
Only thing that was spoiled was Coop's return in Episode 16. The rest was too vague to draw a conclusion from.

I just want sheryl & kyle to get regular work that's interesting. i think lynch would be fine with just painting for the rest of his life. dern is in star wars and will probably end up in a jurassic world sequel

>>87331891
which leaks?

>>87331891
Misleading, but I'm glad they did not spoil the finale for me at all.

>>87330973
they're both shit but the director's rabid fanbase is unwilling to admit as much

>>87331913
Buy all of them

>>87331475
>says 'catch you with my death bag' for some reason
That cracked me up. It's always been my favorite BOB quote.

>>87330588
Mega for the season?

>>87331876
It was obviously a jab at people waiting for Coop to come back.

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>>87331723
wtf this just completely warped my view of all the Roadhouse scenes

I have a few questions.
Why did Chet exist?

What was the point of Norma and the whole RR franchise thing?

Whatever happened to that weird guy who did the coin thing to Audrey's son?

What was the deal with Sarah Palmer ripping that guys throat out?

What was the point of Dr. Jacoby and his show?

What was the point of Audrey and her husband?

Who the fuck were those girls at the Roadhouse constantly?

Why was Coop talking like BobCoop at the diner?

What the FUCK was the ending?

>>87331251
>owl over the 708
So it WAS about the owls

>>87330815
>Decided to listen to the intro of Lain 10 minutes ago
>see this
I keep getting coincidences after checking /tpg/

>>87331840
>nielsen ratings
Literally the fucking showtime CEO said they don't give a shit about them and that they don't matter anymore, and that they had record signups for their Showtime app for Twin Peaks.

>>87331891
they were just vague sentences and phrases like "bob ball", "coop drive" etc.

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>>87331955

>>87330832
>>87331030
boy, I'm so glad we got a resolution to The Wacky Cannabis-Fueled Adventure of Jerry Horne though!

>>87331912
>including streamers
nobody cares about streamers
They might as well not exist since they don't generate ad revenue

>>87331955
Oh hi Mark

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>>87331289
>everything gets resolved with very little effor

its forced, ridiculous and cheap on purpose. Remember coop saying "we live inside a dream", its both a literal thing inside the narrative and a way to remind us that its all an "act", all a dream. The coop face is the representation of the audience watching the scene and the realization that plot is over, all the season was about the denying of a conventional narrative, and these last two episodes were the culmination of that idea, by closing the story and denying that closure it at the same time.

Episode 18 was that message represented by the characters in the real world, laura doesn't exist, the palmers house is just a regular house (the actress that plays as the owner of the house is the actual owner of the house in real life) , coop asking "what year is this" is a question with no answer because it depends at what year the viewer is watching that last episode. Of course it's all a dream, because it's fiction, "the dream" is those moments the viewer is so inmersed in the plot and the narrative that he loses the objective eye, its a cliche idea but it's executed perfectly and with elegance

The scenes with the fireman being the "dreamer" inside the narrative and putting both Laura and Evil coop inside scenes on a movie screen is not a coincidence, that tries to remember us that what we are seeing its a crafted world.

>>87331268
I was almost thinking it was more something on how people just don't give a shit, relating to real life. Helps that the places he goes to are a casino and Dougie's job in insurance, but even Janey-E kind of brushes it off, of course that could have to do with how Dougie normally is which I don't know yet.

>>87332010
>ad revenue
>cable tv

>>87332010

Showtime has no ads you dumbfuck

>>87332010
They do, because the streamers are the ones paying Showtime subscription to watch.

>tfw you're so confused that you don't even know how to ask a question

>>87330832
Wait who the fuck is this guy

Coop is a nice guy and has a generally positive effect on people he encounters but the dude is kind of a trainwreck when it comes to the big picture

>>87331792
Unless you revive a series that winds up destroying the fan interest.

>build up, cooper, mr.c, original characters and new ones for 16 eps
>end it all in a terrible 5 min fight scene coop barely interact with anyone after returning
>spend the rest focusing on diane and laura palmer, both out of nowhere, no build up so you don't care

>>87331981
>What was the point of Norma and the whole RR franchise thing?
This one is quite obvious.

>>87330859
>cliffhanger

But they wrapped everything up.

>>87332010
Someone subscribing directly to Showtime's service makes them way more money than ads dumbass, I'd bet the CEO wished less people watched on TV versus the app

>>87332024
Interesting I don't think I have seen anyone give any meta interpretations yet.

>>87332024
This dude doesn't look 58

>>87331571
confirmed that you are retarded and that you cant read

> He said if people loved it he would do another one, and the hardest part is just sitting down and writing it. But he had so much fun this time, he really loved it. And he got to do it the way he wanted to. It’s like an 18-hour movie, so he’s happy. Let’s just stay positive. It really turned out the way he wanted it to in his heart

>>87331263

Apparently he was thinking about doing another season while they were filming this one when the script was already written so, it was not conceived as a completely close ending

dougie edit (all dougie and none of this supernatural filler shit) when?

>>87331840
TV ratings doesn't mean much, you make prestige TV to drive subscriptions to streaming services and TP gave them a big boost

>>87331251
I just *know* that strobelight started flashing inside the second after Lynch cuts to black. Coop sprung the trap

>>87332064
This.

>Coop fails to save Caroline
>Coop fails to save Maddy
>Coop fails to save Annie
>Coop fails to save Laura

>>87331981
>Why did Chet exist?
MacLachlan didn't want to portray the part or something.
>What was the point of Norma and the whole RR franchise thing?
Frost bullshit.
>Whatever happened to that weird guy who did the coin thing to Audrey's son?
Dating Shelley and doing drugs.
>What was the deal with Sarah Palmer ripping that guys throat out?
Cause she was annoyed by him and she can.
>What was the point of Dr. Jacoby and his show?
Mocking Alex Jones and e-celebs.
>What was the point of Audrey and her husband?
To show Audrey is in a coma.
>Who the fuck were those girls at the Roadhouse constantly?
Why not?
>Why was Coop talking like BobCoop at the diner?
He wasn't.
>What the FUCK was the ending?
The end of a dream.

Everyone is losing their shit over the finale, but can we remember the journey? I'm going to miss waiting long weeks for the next episode, I'm going to miss Dougie, I'm going to miss ~Friday night /tpg/. Its been an amazing ride regardless of how you feel about the ending, keep that in mind

Who else has been thinking about ways to explain this ending for like 8 hours and hasn't come up with anything solid yet?

>>87331981
>Why did Chet exist?
he had his own M.O. Modus Operandi
>What was the point of Norma and the whole RR franchise thing?
idk I thought it was an entertaining side story with a happy ending
>Whatever happened to that weird guy who did the coin thing to Audrey's son?
still trafficking drugs and banging shelly methinks
>What was the deal with Sarah Palmer ripping that guys throat out?
I mean he threatened her, it's an appropriate response. You don't fight back when that happens to you?
>What was the point of Dr. Jacoby and his show?
For Nadine to fall in love with him.
>What was the point of Audrey and her husband?
To show that Audrey is trapped in her own delusions
>Who the fuck were those girls at the Roadhouse constantly?
Part of Audrey's headspace
>Why was Coop talking like BobCoop at the diner?
The well only goes so deep.
>What the FUCK was the ending?
I think so, yes.

an accidental amphibian

>>87332064
>rewatching the original series
>Cooper works with local vigilantes, gets involved in cases that aren't part of his FBI duties, crosses national borders in extra-legal activities
>got his old partner's wife killed

Coop's a standup guy but a fuckup, professionally.

>>87332024
this. the entire series had many self referential parta

>>87332141

Just like the true nature of existence. Lynch has enlightened you namaste

Not to make a direct comparison or anything but thinking about it today, it kind of reminds me of the ending of Infinite Jest. How the book itself stops where it does but the actual 'conclusion' is buried earlier in the story.

>>87331683
I think thats what Steven was freaking out about, he shot her and he was going to shoot himself
The Hayward girl didn't believe him and was trying to convince him he was just high

Where is Carrie Page's pink house?
LA? I need to know a general city before I attempt to find it on google maps.

>>87332141
I stayed up extremely late AND spent all day today, but I actually have almost everything wrapped up in my mind. Anything you would like to hear an interpretation of?

>>87330885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80yjtJFf-v0

>>87331891
It was stuff like

>Cooper wakes up from a coma
>One Punch man fulfills his destiny
>Cooper and Diane go to the Motel but she is gone in the morning
>Cooper takes Carrie Paige to Twin Peaks

>>87332189

Odessa?

>>87332024
That's an interesting interpretation, and that's great for Lynch to have expressed that so effectively if that's the case

It's a shame he did it at the expense of one of the most beloved shows of all time.

>>87332174
>Lynch will never direct a limited series adaptation of Infinite Jest for Showtime

;_;

>>87331647
I think the deeper down the rabbit hole they went, the more Coop and Jeffries realized that reality is malleable. There seem to be certain unalienable truths, however. Judy (or something Gordon and Jeffries understand as Judy) exists. And so does whatever the Fireman generated to confront Judy (represented by Laura Palmer/Sheryl Lee).

Coop hasn't quite reached this realization, as he still thinks identities are vitally important. Even though he's Richard in this reality, and Diane is Linda, he still believes that convincing Carrie of her past as Laura Palmer will solve anything.

He does succeed in bringing her into communion (seemingly) with Judy at the end, so he may not be hopeless. My overall impression is that no matter the form it takes, evil can never really be thwarted; but for Special Agent Dale Cooper, the fight alone is what matters.

>the ending of Twin Peaks is Laura's trademaek bloodcurdling scream

Absolute kino Lynch mate, absolute kino

>>87332170
Pretty much, I don't think it is a coincidence he posits the idea of living inside of a dream to us. Especially with the Monica Belucci scene where she says "We are like the dreamer who dreams, and then lives inside the dream." I think Lynch was trying to make you think even about our reality too.

>>87332214
That's what I thought at first, but Judy's dinner is in LA

>>87331876
I forgot, what was the point of this character?

>>87332225
>Jeffries realized that reality is malleable
this destroyed him in the end though

>>87332073
This was not only obvious but also a key plot point if you think about it. The whole show is meta narrative.

>>87332234
That's not the ending ;)
Credits do matter!

>>87331410
>Rationalizing a happy ending is pathetic
>A bloodcurdling scream isnt a hint its a dream

You mean to tell me that you wouldnt freak out that youve been trapped in a dream that this isnt your life and remember all the shit that happened in your real one?

If you havent noticed lynch does alot of dream shit in his movies, especially towards the end of his films. Its heavily implied its a dream.

Cooper isnt compfortable cause its not what he had planned he doesnt know what to do, to make Laura wake up, he takes her to her house to remind her who she is and it works at the very last second

>>87332203
is episode 18 a dream world?

>>87331981
>Chet was supposed to be Cooper originally but Kyle wanted less screentime in the movie.

>Nostalgia bait

>Red is a magician and also a drug dealer and I guess he's still dealing and doing whatever in TP

>To show that Sarah is possessed by some fucked up entity

>More nostalgia bait and a critic to Alex Jones

>To piss off Audreyfags

>random TP folk

>He was like Terminator, he didn't give a fuck about anything but getting Laura

>Lynch doing Lynch things.

>>87332214
did they shoot on location in texas? keep in mind that there are deserts right outside LA and in central washington state

Anyone knows how's the woodsmen off tune piano song called?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9Gpk75z6rE
Did Angelo write it? Sounds familiar, like a distorted version of a classic song

This is the shot of Cooper that is superimposed over the the Sheriff station scene

Where is Cooper in this shot? Jefferies?

>>87332203
Sure, what do you think happened to Cooper?

>>87332043
Dougie scenes were pretty obvious tho. The reason nobody helped him is because he didn't need any help. Dougie is a manifestation of the buddhist idea of a "path". Dougie is disconnected from the world, and yet he succeeded in everything he did. Because real world doesn't fucking matter and what matters is your soul's path to enlightment. Real world is secondary to the metaphysical, and Dougie experienced real world on purely metaphysical level. Which is why everybody loved him and he was a huge success in everything he touched (casino, relationships with Janney-E and Sonny Jim, his job etc.).

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>>87332234
They don't call her Sheryl Ree for nothin' m8

>>87332255
I've had that Laura scream in one nightmare it was horrible it felt so real and I screamed like that and and my heart is racing hold me oh god

>>87332240

Look up "sunyata"

>>87332255
Again, i'll repeat what I said.

Nice theory, but it doesn't have much basis in the show. It's an interesting interpretation, but there isn't much actual evidence for it.

>>87332249
yeah but he was finna at peace

>>87332266
We live inside a dream.