Can we fix it or are we fucked?

>>87295916
WHY CONTAIN IT

A collapse would be preferable to a fix.

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>>87295916

>>87295916
SAMUEL L JACKSON SHOULDNT WEAR HOODIES

>>87295916
>Can we fix it
>are we fucked
/tv/ was a hollywood producer spynetwork I knew it all along

>>87296095
Looks like that scary masked alien dude.

>>87295916
GUYS STOP PIRATING LMAO

Let it die.

Yeah, box office has been shit this summer, but they are sensationalizing this labor day weekend shit show. No movies came out this weekend, so obviously numbers were bad.

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It will be hilarious if Hollywood comes to Trump asking for a bailout

Maybe they shouldn't release so much liberal propaganda

>>87295916
"Waaaaaa a bunch of pedophile kikes aren't Making as much money!"

I don't even know what movies are out now

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>>87295916
>not wanting HollyJew to collapse

The sooner the Hollywood Jew dies, the better. We'll see an influx of quality work from their ashes.

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>no good movies released recently
>WHY IS NO ONE WATCHING MOVIES!?

>>87298387
SHUTUP YOU FUCKING CAT YOU LOOK LIKE A BAT

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it needs to be destroyed before it can be reborn
we will go back to low budget kino

>>87296095
this
I think it was Winters Solider when I first saw him with one and thought right away "does this guy know how old he is?"
It was almost Jeb level of goofiness

>>87295916
I don´t even remember what the last movie wast that I was actually excited for.
it´s all just the same old shit over and over again only this time with a bunch of sjw crap mixed in as well

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>>87298432

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>>87296053
with no survivors

>>87298569
Holy kek

>>87295916
MILLENNIALS ARE KILLING THE MOVIE INDUSTRY!!1

movie theaters are a relic of a bygone era, it's like asking how do we save horse drawn carriages

>>87295916
he looks like styx.

Stop making boring PG-13 movies. PG-13 is the death of cinema.

>>87298898
blame spielberg for that
the faggot kickstarted that faze go draw in more viewers for more shekels

>>87295916

who's we?

>>87298954
Your post is stupid, and I hope you know that.

>>87295916
What movies even opened this weekend? It seems like everything came out really early this summer. The only good late summer release was Logan Lucky.

>>87298812
The sad thing is as soon as it happens we are gonna cop the blame

>>87300367
its true
if you do some research, you`ll realise how stupid YOU are and i also hope that you already know that

>>87300367
>>87298954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-NeJRrgoTY

>>87301044
It's not Spielberg's fault that cowardly unimaginative directors and their yesmen don't push the envelope as far as the rating will allow, you ignorant nigger.

>>87301206
watch the vid above you
and yes it is his fault and the rest followed where the shekels were flowing at the time

>>87295916

People would rather enjoy themselves outside rather than be in a theater and risk getting shot by one of you robots.

>>87301265
Spielberg actually just wanted PG-13 because he felt Temple of Doom was too dark and scary for a PG rating.

>>87301265
>watch the vid above you
Stop posting on your phone first, iFaggot
>and yes it is his fault and the rest followed where the shekels were flowing at the time
You're fucking retarded and the only cure is a bullet to your face.

>>87301265
I'm not watching a nearly 20 minute video that could have easily been edited down to a concise five to eight minutes. Fucking e-celebs man.

>>87301338
>>87301355
how is that not enough proof
we only barely got Deadpool as an r rated movie and look how sucessfull that turned out
how is that not enougb proof when so many directors up to this point and what have you , have cut their creation down to suit it best to a pg-13 rating and you see that in many cases
too much of that kikes cock in your mouth to help you think clearly?

>>87301469
I legitimately can't think of too many successful PG-13 movies that would have been made better by more swearing or gratuitous violence.

>>87301519
all capeshit moviies (for instance) would totally be kino`s if not for disney and the devastating pg rating
just imagine if they were all R rated and had enough creative freedom to do what that allows
the result automatic capekino

>>87301519
Not that anon, but many directors set out with a rating in mind which means PG-13 movies are designed to be that way. Making an R rated film from the get go can change it drastically based on the director's wishes. It's often a foundational decision.

>>87301598
Like what though? Something like Iron Man or Captain America certainly doesn't need to be R-rated.

>>87301614
True which is why Deadpool ended up so good. I'll also say that franchises that began as R-rated should stay that way, i.e. Terminator, Alien and Predator.

>>87301631
more gore in both of them, adult language, no shitty leDisneyhahahsofunnylmfao quips and such etc.. that they do in every marvel movie in every serious situation that should be dealt with seriously

>>87301715
No thanks. That just sounds edgelord tier cringey just for the sake of it.

>>87301099
Go to the minute 10:00 up to 11:00. I don't get it guys.


What's the difference between "this" and [this] ? They are both shooting people

>>87295916
Why are people concerned with whether or not Hollywood is making money or not?

Cinema is transitioning to an exclusively superhero story form, and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>87301631
>>87301734

also not looking fucking cartoonish especially with their outfits, rather having a more serious tone in general
its not suppose to be all fun and games you`re suppose to feel real emotions and real crushing threat when watching capeshit thats how its meant to be thats what woild make it absolute kino
and no it doesnt have to be edgy or cringy as eampled by Logan with forced cringy swearing just for the sake of it
it can absolutely be done subtly , creatively

>>87295916
Studios are starting to realize they all don't need to cram every big budget movie they have into the summer season where they all just cannibalize each other. That's why you're seeing blockbusters like Thor and Kingsman and Star Wars release in the Fall. If these movies had released sometime in the summer, then overall box office would be above or on par with previous years.

Of course laying things out logically like this doesn't get clicks so the media is portraying the summer box office being down like the sky is falling and the industry is about to collapse.

>>87301715
What you want is basically what comics were in the grimdark Frank Miller ripoff 90s which was largely awful.

>>87301829
Thor and Star Wars will flop.

>>87301856
lol the sad part is some people on this board genuinely do believe that

>>87301856
Of the three movies I listed, only the Kingsman sequel has any chance of flopping.

>>87301877
>Homecoming will make a billion they said

>>87301877
They both need at least $6 trillion just to make back 1% of the production budget

>>87301832
like i mentioned it doesnt have to be or feel forced
i mean the only capeshit movie that i truely like up until today is Punisher and Deadpool (even though it was still a bit cringy and forced) and i want more to come out in that manner with more creative freedom

>>87301921
>BvS will outgross Star Wars they said

>>87301921
>>87301925
lmao stop listening to /tv/. people on this board don't even know what an extra is.

It's one weekend full of shit movies. It doesn't fucking matter. Also why do you even care? Faggot

>>87301329
loud black people are a far, far, more prevalent problem you liberal cuck.

>>87296009
>Can we fix Hollywood?
Who gives a fuck about making some kikes an extra dollar goddamn damn you people are fucking pathetic virgins who argue over Game of Thrones or which capeshit is better all the while blandly throwing your shekels at whatever flashy trailer was shoved in your face that morning.

>>87301967
The Last Jedi will make the theatrical version of BvS seem like a masterpiece.

>>87295916
Let Pedowood. Independent and foreign filmmakers will keep film alive until we can purge Marxism and pedophilia from that God forsaken hellhole.

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>>87296710
I can see it now
>Hollywood is too big to fail!
>Without us, you would all be stuck with football and mixed martial arts (which is hardly an art)!
>FUCK WHITEY!
>GIV MONEYZ WHITEY, OY VEY!

few more such years and they realise it is better to aim worldwide, as thats where mostly movies make boxoffice now. in US, despite higher % take, box office is dead in mostly cases

>>87301877
Thor will definitely bomb. Star Wars won't bomb, but it perform under Disney's expectations.

>>87295916
wtf samuel literally looks like a demon.

>>87302323
>Without us, you would all be stuck with football and mixed martial arts

???

>>87295916
I don't want to fix it, I want everyone in Hollywood to die a slow and painful death.

>>87302323
>>87296710
/pol/ you're getting really desperate. Imagining things that will never happen because Trump can't actually ever win otherwise.

>>87295916
I only follow the movie feed to rejoice with the flops.
I don't care about Hollywood's survival, and it's probably for the best if it dies.

>>87301856
>flop
>same idiots thought TFA and WW would flop
Never trust a thing this board says.

>>87303311
>basic bait

>>87303616
>merely pretending

in either case yoyr game of make-believe is embarassing

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>can pay $20 to watch a 90 minute stinker in a crowded theater

>can pay $10 a month to watch hundreds of hours of tv quinoa in my empty childhood bedroom

hmmm.. which do i choose...

white boi films just cant compete with the BBCTV anymore

>>87295916
unfortunately it won't get better until the Jews are driven out. they've turned film into a propaganda outlet and everything is about preaching for 'diversity' rather than creating entertainment.

>>87301099
wait, moon bloodgood is a woman?

Movies are dead long live streaming tv

>>87295916
It's time to stop paying actors 50 million per movie maybe.

Hollywood transmits the cancerous influence of California to the rest of the world.
It's a truly great thing they are losing both money and cultural relevance.
It can't die soon enough.

>>87304781
NoCal is pretty cool.

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If the movie stinks, just don't go.

movies are dead, long live the new movies

I'm seeing a lot of these articles blaming the consumers for things failing but it's not the consumer's job to prop up businesses. It's the businesses' job to entice consumers to consume their product. If movies aren't making any money then either the theatre format in general (including ticket and concession prices) isn't something people want, or the movies are just shitty and nobody wants to go watch them and you should try and make movies people want to watch.

>>87301715
this post is stupid and wrong

but other than capeshit PG-13 has killed promising projects

>>87302882
Meryl Streep's smug speech from this year

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>>87295916
Too many blacks in the movies. They should cut down on that.

>>87298898
Pretty much
It's not that every movie needs to be edgy and secure an R rating. It's that, more often than not, PG-13 is code for "We wanted to make a violent movie then toned everything down so we could maximize our profits from little kids who don't know any better"

>>87295916
hollywood spent a year telling america that we hate you and wish youd die.........please bring money. I want to watch a good movie. No propaganda no capeshit

>>87307924
There are plenty of good movies each year. /tv/ is just primarily focused on blockbusters and nerd culture.

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>>87307924
>a year
a lot longer than that m8

>>87295916

Hitman's bodyguard is surprisingly funny. I expected to hate it.

>>87305746
Here is your problem. There used to be movies for white folk and movies for black folk but now they put black in white roles and the proportion of blacks in a movie doesn't reflect reality in our day to day. They have to cast a black guy with a blond girl in every fucking thing. When Disney crammed the black boy on us in Starwars I was out.

>>87295916
where did the slightly autistic hoodie jackson poster go
he posted that pic of samuel in almost every thread for a day, but wasn't dedicated enough

Maybe moviegoers didn't get the memo:

You're SUPPOSED to want to watch endless remakes, reboots, sequels, and prequels.

>>87296095
also shouldn't try to act in comedies and he's too old for action

>>87309447
>BAD GOYIM BAD!

>we

>WE

>W E

Let hollywood burn.

>>87295916
In other news, TGWTG got fucked: >>87299841

With Jews you lose

>>87301951
>Punisher
opinion discarded

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>>87295916
No.

>>87304956
No.
The entire west coast is a blight upon humanity.

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>>87308009
this

>>87295916
Because no one has come up with anything original in the past several years - it's all derivative shit and remakes and prequels and sequels and fucking cape shit and whatnot

>there will never be a Narcos season about Chepe building a distribution network in NY

>>87301748
They're not, it's justr (((Hollywood))) wants you to think that you are concerned.

There probably is going to be a crash.
But Disney, Warner Bros, Universal, and FOX will survive and buyout the the scraps of the other studios, which will be worse for us in the long run.

>>87295916
Worst in what sense?

Maybe the fact that no one in the country's 4th largest city went to the movies?

>>87303311

>Trump can't ever win otherwise

That's why he won the election, I guess

maybe they should clue in and make an affordable streaming service for new movies

>>87312990

lol he lost the popular election by millions

how long until his dementia renders him completely incapable of public speaking? he is half-way there already..

>>87313194
>lol he lost the popular election by millions

And yet he still won, funny isn't it?

>>87313194
>lol he lost the popular election by millions
Oh no he got a lower number of stuff that hasn't mattered in elections since they were established.

>>87295916
let them burn

>>87313194
>from russia to nazi to alzheimer

>>87313520
>implying he's not a Russian Nazi with alzheimers

Let it die. Almost nothing good comes out of it anymore aside from a few gems every year.

>>87313631

>Aside from the 6 good movies that come out in a 12 year span we shouldn't have movies

???

>>87296710
He dies in prison you know.

>>87300443
This, and Logan Lucky didn't set the world on fire anyway. It's not even enough for a movie to have a good RT score, Hollywood's dug themselves into this corner where they've trained people to only see capeshit, but general audiences are still experiencing superhero/blockbuster fatigue, so their response is to just stop watching movies entirely (Except for cheap horror rollercoasters like Annabelle, that stuff just prints money forever I guess)

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>liberal hollywood didn't make enough shekels to keep their pedo harems at capacity

I hate Amy Pascal, talentless trash, but people listen to her

>>87305288
They blame consumers because they don't want to admit they're creating pure shit.

>>87313194
>lost the popular election
You know what the consolation prize is for winning the popular vote but losing the election?

Set of steak knives

http://www.businessinsider.com/sean-parker-screening-room-backlash-2017-5

"Everything you've heard in the press about studios and theaters wanting to explore a PVOD window, nothing about that revolves around Screening Room," a source close to the talks told Business Insider.

Of the proposed $50 rental fee, which would make a movie available to a viewer for 48 hours, 20% would go to the movie's distributor, a participating theater chain would get up to $20, each customer would receive two tickets to see that rented title at their local theater. Screening Room would take 10%.

Sources told Business Insider that all the bells and whistles Screening Room was selling wouldn't matter until the studios and theaters agree on a PVOD window.

https://redef.com/original/disney-as-a-service-why-disney-is-closer-than-ever-to-walts-60-year-old-vision

In August 2017, a majority stake in MoviePass was sold to the analytics firm Helios and Matheson. At the same time, the company announced that it would lower its price for unlimited films to $9.95 per month; Lowe explained that "after years of studying and analysis we found that people want to go to the movies more often, but the pricing keeps going up, and that prevents them from going more. We're making it more affordable for people." Helios and Matheson's CEO Ted Farnsworth stated the goal of the pricing changes were to increase its userbase, as they aimed to analyze viewing habits for the purposes of targeted advertising. Farnsworth compared the model to those of Facebook and Google, where their free services are subsidized by the collection of personal information for advertising

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cinemacon-2017-studios-push-competing-proposals-premium-video-demand-988861

>>87315248
Do you think movies decades ago were generally better? If so, in what ways?

>>87315686
I'm not entirely sure I would say they were better, but the offer they presented to consumers was more tantalizing.

Television was fucking garbage for decades. The concept of streaming sounded like sci-fi. Describing the internet in general to someone 40 years ago would probably blow their mind.

Back then, blowing a few bucks for 90 minutes of entertainment wasn't that bad of a proposition. The problem is, everything else has caught up to cinema, while it's stagnating.

>>87313272
>Oh no he got a lower number of stuff that hasn't mattered in elections since they were established.
votes?
>america

>>87305746
not even meming. It's this.

>>87315927
Also, let's talk about home entertainment set ups.

I can fucking buy a 4k television, and deck my house out with Dolby Atmos. It's not cheap, but I can. What sheer technical advantages does the cinema hold over the consumer? Especially going forward. 8k is a possibility now. Owning a 70+ inch screen that I'm sitting a few feet away. The cinema experience is near completely replicatable.

>>87316054
Popular vote of the entire country doesn't matter and has never mattered. Popular vote of each individual state "wins" you that state and a certain amount of points per state and those points are all that matter. Popular vote at the state level is all that matters because of that.

>>87315686
Movies were definitely not better.

Hollywood mainstream clearly was.

>>87316104
>more votes, but the wrong one
america

>>87316231
>Movies were definitely not better.

Is there anything comparable today to Kubrick?

>>87295916
>...worst Labor Day weekend in 20 years

Seems like it's fixing itself already....

>>87316235
What country do you live in? Do you enjoy your top 3-4 largest cities being the only places in the country to make a difference in elections? Because the electoral college system stops that from happening.

>>87316304
>Is there anything comparable today to Kubrick?
nolan

>>87295916
>Hollywood has worst Labor Day weekend in nearly two decades

>Hollywood is at an all time high on cracking down on piracy. You basically need private trackers or IP blockers not to get hassled by your IP.

Hollywood seemed to be doing pretty well in the past 20 years of internet piracy. Maybe "you wouldn't download a car" era wasn't the end of the world that Hollywood studios were bitching about

>>87316345
Do you enjoy country bumpkins having more valuable votes than people who live in cities? Of course you do.

>>87316496
I enjoy having all the country represented, yes.

>>87316496
If we didn't have the electoral college system we would turn into a one party system because of those few big cities.

I'd like to think normies are finally getting sick of Hollywood's garbage, but unfortunately I know that's not true.

>>87302882
>>Without us, you would all be stuck with football and mixed martial arts
I can live without TV and film, but not /tv/ - Television and Film.

>>87296710
>trump wins election
>greatest and last achievement

yeah, conservative media would do SO much better.
>hmm, let's watch 800 movies about nascar, alcohol abuse, wife beating, nigger-hate info gfx, and white genocide. i'm sure they'd do well globally too.

no thanks, idiot.

>>87316581
Also if we want to go to popular vote we need mandatory voting. Popular vote doesn't work if only 40% of the country is voting. Part of this might be people used to the electoral college and some states being hard red or blue and the other votes basically not counting so people would need to be eased into having their votes actually count in these states. Just going straight to popular vote would be a massive fuck up.

>>87298954
This is true, but misleading. Spielberg pushed for the creation of PG-13 because he wanted to allow films to be scarier and more violent without being full on mature. Before that you only had PG and adult, so people were complaining that children's films were too scary. Years later ranking standards changed so that PG-13 was gutted to be less and less violent.

Technically Spielberg is responsible, but you can't blame him for companies becoming spineless decades later.

>>87302030
>loud black people are a problem

or your dumbass can't schedule a time to see movies without large crowds worth a shit.

>WAAAAH BLACK PPPPLLL

literally worse than niggers.

>>87316776
>>87316993
Same person.

Same Reddit.

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>>87316776
>alcohol abuse, wife beating, nigger-hate

>>87302030
>black people
Do you mean niggers? They are not people, they are some kind of hybrid apes.

Why do people keep pretending hollywood is dying or in any danger at all?
Even Pirates of the Caribbean 5 and The Mummy did okay and Disney and Universal both had movies that broke a billion

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>>87295916
Good....good.

>>87303311
>talk about trump
>he's a /pol/ poster
Pottery

>>87318050
Because deep down journalists and reviewers know that capeshit is utter garbage and they hope that by printing this stuff they can avoid another 10 years of it

Why isn't anybody going to the movies to watch our anti-white propaganda and all-female remakes?

>>87301921
Spiderman releases in China this Friday, M88.

>>87296129
> /tv/ was a hollywood producer spynetwork I knew it all along

/tv/ has always been jewish Hollywood movie studio executives calling each other kikes

>>87295916
>We

I don't work for Hollywood.

>>87303311
>Imagining things that will never happen

you mean like trump becoming president?

>>87316383
>>Is there anything comparable today to Kubrick?
>nolan
nigga pls

>>87315368
What's third place?

>>87295916
>>87319602
This, fuck hollywood and their shit movie machine.

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>>87314834
The man who started a revolution


Thank you based James

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>>87295916
Yes.
Start making good movies. Start by hiring real writers and torching the greenscreens. It'll probably cause world economy to collapse though, considering how many useless fucks are involved in creating CGI shit no one but chinks wants.

>>87315686
>hollywood datamining

everything is a sequel, and reuses the same actors being the same people as they are on social media.

>too many alternatives
>most screenplays are based on books and its almost a physical law the movie will ruin the source material

everything is a play on nostalgia which basically suggests on its own that movies and media in the past were better and ore fulfilling

the endless virtue signalling of zuckerberg interest groups

facebook ruined movies because the experience of seeing a movie d talking to your friends about it isn't fun anymore.

>>87315686
Also overuse of CGI. further animated films are all pixar/dreamworks.

disney bought marvel therefore ruined , and dc doesn't have the balls to be totally different and grungy and are trying to pull off the mcu formula which was only good for 1 avengers movie

i can just tell everything comes from a public relations firm rather than pure inspiration

there are actually movies so bad they are good ad beecome cult clasics, hollywood can't do that

>>87295916
The problem is millennial numale faggots would rather spend their money on avocado toast than support an American institution.

Listen, there's still plenty of great films being made. It's your duty as an American to ensure that we remain on top. Support your local theater. Don't complain if the movies are stupid or have too much CGI; I'm much older than you and I still know how to turn my brian off and have a good time. I watched the most recent Transformers with no expectations and had a BLAST. Seriously stop being so cynical and buy a ticket already.

>>87309018
yea im black and the agenda is obvious.

i enjoyed it when i could watch a movie and not feel like im being socially engineered to think a certain way.

I remember when brokeback mountain was abig deal, now its like theyr throwing gays at us left and right.

it was better when interacial relationships weren't being pushed as normal, rather were allowed to be a relationship outside if the context of race.

no its like everyone saw the movie get out and noticed the absurd pushing of black man white female relationships out of nowhere.

what about asian male black female? theyd never do it because they want china tickets and that where alot of the problem resides.

>>87295916
The last time Paramount isn't releasing anything. Sony is only releasing Diversity movies. There were almost no movies released in August.

If they just started making movies again that don't force diversity (((they)))'ll be fine.

>>87316496
But they don't. The big city states are compensated by having more overall voting power than any other state.

>>87320121
It isn't the consumer's job to prop up businesses and corporations.

>>87320371
It literally is.

>>87320121
the reason you have millennial numale faggots is because hollywood and facebook social engineering of softboys.

>>87320371
He's boomer larping.
It's a rare one.

>>87319771
Considering it is always the libertarian probably some weed.

>>87305746
Logan Lucky
>action-heist movie with many white redneck characters
>92%, 7.5 on Rottentomatoes
>Budget-29mill, Box Office 27mill
Girls Trip
>comedy about black women going to parties and watching male strippers
>89%, 6.8 on Rottentomatoes
>27mill budget, 127mill box office almost all in North America during the summer but rated R so probably not many people under 18 saw it

Financial reasons seem to often be why people in Hollywood seem to be increasingly having black actors in major roles of movies released in the US.

>>87320780
>1 example

>>87320464
It is only if they desire to. Nobody is forced to pay for private services or goods they don't desire to use or have. If a business doesn't have anything that interests consumers, it is only logical this business fails.

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>>87295916
Glad I at least played my part by watching pic related last night.
I'd go full shill for this release. BASED Jim does it again
>tfw the best movie out this weekend is a rerelease from 1991

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>>87302122