/tpg/ - Twin Peaks General:

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>tfw you got lynched too hard

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hopefully this show stays dead

>no set design
>no interesting ideas for storylines
>no acting
>no characters
>introduces characters for no purpose
>introduces storylines for no purpose
>everything is supposed to weirdly connect and make sense
>roadhouse scenes/songs
>student-tier storytelling/editing
>everything above is literally cringe-tier in concept and implementation
>somehow the best thing in tv history

>>87291130
Dale blocked his own happy ending by destroying the Fireman's weapon against the Black :Lodge

WHY WAS SARAH IN THE HOUSE

WHY WAS SARAH IN THE HOUUSEE

Entire season could have just been episodes 1 2 3 8 15 16 17 18.

Prove me wrong.

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To the people who might have been confused by the end or think there's plot inconsistencies, while I won't go into any theories specifically or deny any criticism you might have. I do think it's important to understand several parallels drawn by David Lynch and where he took inspiration from to truly get what he was going for (or was trying to go for). I'm not going to explain any theory in and of itself, but I will try to lay a general line of thinking out on the table.

There's a clear inspiration taken by Lynch from a certain genre of anime, in particular the likes of Angel Beats (2010) and Charlotte (2015). Both heavily criticized for doing the exact same thing Twin Peaks did but it really does all fit together well if you're of an high IQ enough to understand and appreciate this type of story. I know this might come of as unbelievable but there's many similarities here and if you want a less complex version that might help you understand the Season 3 Finale of Twin Peaks I think it's best to have seen the aforementioned shows.
They might be a little rough, and things might seem odd. But that's exactly why it compares so well to Twin Peaks. You can see, going from the first to the second show the time that has passed in real time reflects within the show itself. AB (?) C (?). It's a rollercoaster ride much like Twin Peaks was (is? season 4?) and will likely help you answer many of the problems you might have had with the ending of the third season of Twin Peaks. They're diamonds in the rough. They're the crude oil running through the veins of our inner sanctum. But at the end of the day you can better understand Lynch as a person, a creator, and, most importantly, a human. What his eyes saw and what he tried to reflect. Through the works so brilliantly parodied by him that go beyond a subconscious mind.

If you've got 10 hours of free time, and want to understand Twin Peaks on a much higher plane, consume these 2 shows. Thank me later.

>>87291155
>not liking based hawk
just go m8

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>>87291148
>/v/edditor gets lynched
duh

WHO DO YOU THINK THAT IS THERE?

Who was the girl screaming on the floor of the roadhouse in couple episodes ago?

>>87291183
Toss in one more and you have 9, the original episode order by Showtime which would have been better.

>>87291184
Is this pasta? Good fuck

>>87291157
i'm hoping for a missing pieces style deleted scenes dump. praying to monica beluci, high priestess of pottery

>>87291130
This has to have been lynch's most depressing / darkest ending since Mulholland Drive, right?

>Billy

>>87291175
Because she's still Judy and she still won

Has any official statement been released after the finale or is everyone in production keeping silent?

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>>87291130
two things in this world david lynch loves
>Sheryl Lee screaming
>Laura Dern fucking
that's why he's the only one happy with this ending

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>>87291130
>almost everything in the season was a distraction for the finale
From the moment they walk down the steps to when the screen goes black, I've never been so haunted in my life. It was worth the entire trip, and I sincerely hope that this is where Twin Peaks ends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGUboLZx3Tk
>Now You’re Just A Stranger’s Dream
>I Took Your Picture From The Frame
It's just like episode 18

>>87291175
because she's judy now and judy is everywhere and everything

>>87291208

She accidentally saw the dailies for episode 18.

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>>87291117
>enjoying discussing

Wanker.

> what you're doing isn't a waste

Looking down on you retards brings me nothing but joy. I also know that regular posters are faltering in their belief it adds up to anything, it's all over the thread. Come to the light.

>>87291144
>It was one of the most rewarding seasons of television I have watched my entire life.

Right, and unlike the pathetic attempts of everyone else in these threads, you Really Understand™ what he meant. First year student of some worthless humanities degree on full display.

>>87291204
what did he mean by this line? was it about Booper?? will we ever find out???

>>87291238
this. another season would be shit.

just let it die.

this was an amazing ending.

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>tfw no endgame, just offscreen crimes

WE'RE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT BILLY

>>87291215
No, it's genuine

>>87291257

Everyone agreed months ago Jeffries was referring to booper but fucked up and was in 1989.

>>87291254
wow you're retarded lmao

>>87291254
Ur mad bro

>>87291254
Lot of words but no argument to be found :(

Why did Lynch dick us around so hard with all this endless Dougie bullshit for multiple episodes

>>87291183
true. imho i think lynch was just doing this as a favor to everyone from the original series, i mean, the majority of the cast, haven't really worked in a long time / didn't do many things of note after twin peaks. he brought back so many people even if it was for just a single scene with a line or not even a line, but they got paid.

>>87291276
THERE THEY ARE ALBERT

>scream
>fade to black
>literally the ending of a generic slasher/horror movie
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *inhales* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Jeffries said Dopplecoop already met Judy, but as far as I can think, he hasn't actually met the experiment/judy?

Or did he mean actual cooper had met sarah palmer? Was sarah possessed in season 1 and 2?

>>87291276
THERE THEY ARE ALBERT

>>87291282
>>87291289
>>87291291

One buttblasted redditor.

>>87291296
The Dougie parts were the the only parts that were both entertaining and connected to the main plot.

>>87291273
Then fuck off. Go somewhere else nigger cunt. No one wants to hear about those anime s!!!

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He was right about everything.

The finale was Lynch taunting everyone about the allegations while laughing them off.

why do people get so upset about bad endings? holy fucking shit

I would have rather the series just ended with Cooper stuck as Dougie

>>87291308
Name five(5) slasher movies that do this

>>87291296
>Why did Lynch dick us around so hard with all this endless Dougie bullshit for multiple episodes

How else would you appreciate:

1. The unconnected scene of new Dougie hugging his family, that could have just been cut out of the episode with no narrative change.

2. The mitchum brothers dropping quips and Candie bringing sandwiches in episode 17 right before everyone gets LYNCHED.

>>87291311
>Was sarah possessed in season 1 and 2?

In the season 2 finale Sarah talks about the black lodge backwards

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>>87291281
I wasn't browsing /tpg/ months ago....

>>87291322
Nah I'm just joining in. You sound really stupid, so I thought I'd let you know. Now piss off.

So who the FUCK was the guy in the jail cell? Lynch???

this show is really good. friends, and stranger-friends, i'd like to know if you all agree. reply to this post in any manner you wish to say you agree that this show is really good.

I really liked the ending. If it's a season finale, it sets up a really interesting problem to solve. If it's a series finale, it's a really tragic Twilight Zone scenario. Either way I'm happy.

>>87291231
its a 3 day weekend here in MAGA land, everyone is probably too wasted/high on drugs to give a fuck. everyone got paid anyway.

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>>87291184

>>87291296
Subverting expectation. Quite literally everybody was expecting a 'I am the FBI :D' happy ending where everything gets resolved. Lynched, plain and simple.

>>87291311
Sarah has probably been possessed to some extent since 1956

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>>87291184
Gonna keep posting this?

>>87291130
>she got scared when she learned the truth
>bad end
The most triggered character was Judy. I'd call that a win.

>>87291326
Why are you yelling?

Lynch has stated his opinion very clearly: the audience lives in a pipe-dream. You buy the hype, you live with the results.

>>87291335
Bc it was a good ending and they don't see it?

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how do I get a cute thicc old lady GF like this?

>>87291349

it was so important to have the Mitchum brothers fly across state lines so they could watch oi m8 punch a flying spaghetti meatball into the floor

did coop not ask about the body because he knows it's a dream?

>>87291356
>months ago
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

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>>87291296
because cooper would have solved everything immediately if he came out normal

and it was fucking comfy

JOBSWORF

>tfw that weird scene where Bobby and Shelly repeat their conversation from the pilot now has completely different implications in the light of different timelines

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It's time for another thread of tears.

>>87291370

>"Say Harry, why don't you get us some coffee and cherry pie? Damn fine coffee!"

>The redditor chuckled, all was well in the world

Just got Lynched so hard, damn. Gonna rewatch tomorrow but, damn.

That sex scene was painful

The hotel Cooper woke up in was different than the hotel the previous night.

>>87291296
The Dougie scenes were some of the best in the entire show. He wasn't "dicking us around", he was creating quality content.

I think I get most of it. Any questions?

>>87291399
knock on one's door and tell them their mother's name is really Sarah

>>87291384
I do not like the blacks

>Original series was about a small town torn apart by a murder, some supernatural spice thrown in that could be seen as a symbol of 'the evil that men do'
>Season 3 is about an eldritch horror doing battle with the fireman, time travel and 10 minute sweeping scenes
What did Lynch mean by this?

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>>87291296
So you'd get

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>>87224162
Friendly reminder that Vedderposters were right
Listen https://youtu.be/pXth84G7dkM

>>87291363
It was Billy, whoever the fuck that is.

THIS IS WHERE WE LIVE, SHELLY

>>87291433
>>87291363

>>87291399
Goodness her ass in those jeans.

>>87291254
i'll bet your british

>S1 and 2 literally LYNCHED
literally no point in watching them anymore
FWWM and S3 are all you need

palmer house number 108 = 9, not complete/perfect

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>>87291433
Yeah. What the FUCK?

>no set design, empty, no life
>no interesting ideas for storylines
>no acting (Horse, Bell, Lynch, Robertson, Dern, ...)
>no characters (one-dimensional at best)
>characters introduced for no purpose
>storylines introduced for no purpose
>everything is supposed to weirdly connect and make sense
>roadhouse scenes/songs
>student-tier storytelling/editing (characters shown walking up stairs completely)
>stretched needlessly, long takes have no particular effect
>everything above is literally cringe-tier in concept and implementation
>somehow the best thing in tv history

>Lynch reveals his true power-level by totally blowing Argento-core Italian horror out in favor of Fulci for tone and Bava for color
>tfw the canny fuckers have between one and five more episodes in the can or something and the idea that Showtime will bleed them off with no fanfare or prior warning during reruns over the next five years

WE HAVE TO GET BACK

WE'RE LATE

SHE HASN'T SEEN HIM IN A VERY LONG WHILE

SHE'S SICK

AAAAAAA AAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAA AAAAA AAAAAAA AAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAA AAAAA

Who screamed Laura???

I am learning hiragana

It is surprisingly straightforward

>>87291412
What weird scene? I'm dumb and can't remember

>>87291428

Yeah, and why did Agent Cooper have long hair in some scenes?

>>87291405
also wanted coop to answer aht call so bad.

>>87291370
Would it have been so much to ask that we get that after 25 fucking years? To feel good about a feel-good ending?

How fucked up is it that Coop brought a rape victim back to the scene of the crime
not even considering the fact she was raped by her father but cooper drags her back their to relive the experience

>>87291427
And necessary. The whole time I was watching it I was like what the fuck did I wake up in crazy land, and it turns out I had transitioned into a weird and uncomfortable new place/world/timeline.

>>87291311
Judy gives birth to all Black Lodge creatures. BOB, every doppelganger, every woodsman, the Jumping Man, the Tremonds, MIKE, and the Electrician are her spawn. So in a sense, evil Cooper and BOB both "met" Judy when they first came into existence.

>>87291466
>not liking based hawk
just go m8

>>87291449
Was the high energy from 16 just lynchbait?

FUCK

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>>87291379
Don't stop me. We're both coffee lovers.

>>87291437
I'm white

Showtime read the script before production began. They knew what they were getting. I'm genuinely surprised they allowed this shit on air.

>>87291475
Mad Judy in Sarah's voice.
Don't think for a second Judy was happy with this ending. Coop and Laura know from the very beginning of this new story now.

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>What year is this?

Well?

>>87291479
>I am learning hiragana
>It is surprisingly straightforward

Anon, I heard it's bad to hold it in instead of just using a sock or kleenex or something.

>>87291475
Me

>>87291475
We don't say her name.

>>87291432
Episode 3 and 4 were amazing. Then episode 5 happened, and exposed Dougie as the filler it was for the extended number of episodes.

>>87291399
Find a single one. Sheryl's single at fifty years old, that's why she still takes care of herself when more twenty year olds let themselves go to shit as soon as they get married.

"What year is it" and Laura screaming then cut to black felt REALLY cheap.

>>87291428
There were three different cars too!

>>87291432
A couple of episodes ago I started hoping the Vedder posters were right because I realized I was only enjoying Dougie. Now I really wish they were right.

>>87291512
Michael Horse was literally the worst actor this season though.

A A
/ \ / \
/ \ / \

>>87291525
2014

>>87291525
2042

Judy was the dreamer. That's why the question is so ominous and why she can redirect Laura and Cooper to an alternate universe

>>87291525
Considering the Valero I'd say pretty recent.

>>87291482
Season 2 finale, when Jacoby brings Sarah to Major Briggs and she says she's in the Black Lodge with Agent Cooper with a demonic voice.

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>>87291555
wtf

>>87291433

Nope. It was pretty clear desu. Inland Empire was much more difficult to decode.

>>87291550
Hahaha no. Watch it again. It was built up and executed flawlessly.

carrie page has an upside horseshoe necklace, could that reference the white horse/her bad fucking luck

How come BOB was still so feral but Booper was so calm and stoic?

>>87291525
As always Cooper misunderstands the clues right in front of his face, he's not in the future or past, he's in another timeline.

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>>87291555

I remember really liking episode 17, unfortunately was drinking when watching both episodes and no can't remember how 18 ends. Guess I'll watch again and hope it sticks.

>>87291525
2020 when Season 4 will premiere

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GIVE ME A LINK FOR S3EP18

>>87291519
Is this... dare I say it... a Lynch reference?

>>87291433
What year is this?

>>87291520
Same.

Then again it's owned by kikels.

>>87291525
Why the fuck wouldn't he ask himself this the moment he wakes up

and what year was he expecting it to be anyway

>>87291552
THERE WERE CARS EVERYWHERE

>>87291550
I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the flawless light explosion on the house and the credits shot

>I tried to keep a clean house
>keep everything organized

FINALLY a woman with a good attitude. That's the key. Anyone'll tell you that!

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So who was the Woodsman? Do they eat at Judys?

Explain the following:
-119
-Girl who screams on the floor of the roadhouse at the ending of a couple episodes ago
-Girl who eats the alien thing

>>87291433
How's Annie?

>>87291525

>People telling him for TWENTY FIVE YEARS "Is it future or is it past"

>Hmmm what year is it?

Dougie was smarter than Agent Cooper, prove me wrong.

>>87291588
Because they're different characters with different personalities.

>>87291492

She wasn't just raped once. She was raped hundreds of time if not thousands of times in that house. Leland started raping her when she was just a child, he might have started raping her when she was just a baby. Don't forget BOB had possession of Leland since Leland was 12 years old.

>>87291525
It's supposed to be 2017 but some people want it to be 1985 and the current age is about 5 years past its shelf life so everyone's just a little confused.

Im laughing so much at these threads and all the memes, thanks for the coping material boys :')

>>87291588
Mr. C got Bob on meds and he took up crochet instead of rape which calmed him down.

>>87291645
The girl who ate the bug was Sarah Palmer

>>87291552
I didn't get a good look at the first car Coop and Diane were in but the steering wheel made it look like an old 1950s model.

>>87291594
Has Cooper, dare I say, always been kind of dumb? Maybe Dougie was his most distilled form.

Was baked as shit but that sequence of Dopplecoop going into the sheriff's station was so fucking unnerving. It felt like a fucking Tim and Eric skit or something, everyone being so pronounced and stiff. Fucking amazing

>>87291588
Diane said that when she showed fear, Bob started to smile.

Maybe he gets feral when he sees women afraid of him.

Michael Horse was great. If you want bad acting, you have a lot of people to choose from. Lynch likes to depict 'silence,' and actors like Jim Belushi just do not fucking get it

>>87291618
After 2015 because of the models of cars

If I ever see Lynch irl I'm going to tell him to explain it to me or I'll knock him out.

>>87291645
read >>>87291184
Understood it perfectly.

>>87291688
keep telling yourself that

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Perhaps I'm wondering why Cooper would bother creating another Dougie to make Janey-E happy if he was going to destroy that reality anyway.

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>>87291652
>She was raped hundreds of time if not thousands of times in that house.

>>87291298
This. Audrey had literally no purpose in this story other than the relationship with Billy but thats more of a red herring. The fans wanted her though and Lynch is good friends with her so it wouldnt be right to cuck her out of her one chance back in the spotlight.
The good news is with season four Little Mike still has a chance to come back as MANFAP

>>87291492
He needed her to be aware of the truth. They had a job to do. Remember that Coop was led to her house.

What was Booper's endgame?

>>87291707
you can tell me why you disagree. the world is open.

So Judy is the naked chick that vomited up Bob and killed that couple in the premiere right?

>>87291645
>119
There are realities 1 through 9. Cooper created a 10th.

>Girl who screams on the floor of the roadhouse at the ending of a couple episodes ago
an upset asian girl who got moved out of her seat

>Girl who eats the alien thing
You mean Sarah Palmer?

>>87291550
Nah dawg that was pretty well done for what it is. Like a black curtain dropping.

Reminder that Dougie shows up at Janey-E and Sonny Jim's house after Coop's time-fuckery which means that timeline still exists in some capacity. Jeffries says that Gordon will remember the "unofficial" version to Coop so obviously when Coop "crosses over" into the other world Gordon is the only other person that will remember.

>>87291710
He didn't realize he was destroying the reality, he thought he was just saving Laura

>>87291692
What the hell was in his shirt

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>>87291652
not canon anymore anon ;)

>>87291710
Multiple universes.

>>87291692
What is the symbolism of the white horse? Cooper and the camera stared at it for a long pause.

So what was the significance of
>girl swallowing frogbug
>Audrey being in a mirror

And just how was Annie?

>>87291184
>anime
kys

>>87291238
The moment we see the house, I felt dread knowing that the person answering the door wouldn't have been the Palmers.

>>87291710
He had no idea at the time and it was probably an alternate reality.

>>87291550
what significance does the year have anyway?

>>87291728
if you people seriously don't cringe during the sheriff station scenes I don't know how to explain it to you (chocolate bunnies, ...)

>>87291735
>You mean Sarah Palmer?
What's the proof that's Sarah? That scene is in New Mexico and I remember the boyfriend calling her by a different name.

>>87291692
orange you glad i saved your life?

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What did Laura whisper to Cooper?

So did Evil coop make the box in the first episode to try and capture normal coop?

>>87291718
Audrey's point in the story was a microcosm of what the ending was - it was a dream of the "girl who lived down the lane". She was in a dreamworld. The ending is Coop in Laura's dreamworld in 1989.

>>87291520
pretty sure 2 things happened: they were convinced the show would have a bigger appeal than it really did (the resurgence of the show's popularity when it got on netflix), so they banked on that, then when lynch was going to walk away when they only gave him a 9 episode budget (which in hindsight would've been enough), when talks reengaged, lynch probably rused them into signing some contract that prevented them from backing out even though lynch and fristy only probably gave them a vague plot summary and they said 'fuck it, it will probably be good', then when they got the final scripts they were contractually obliged to put up with it.

>>87291765
Too complex for your mind?

>>87291281
>>87291257
be specific

>>87291710
He didn't destroy reality. After the clock freezes at 2:53 Cooper enters into another world or maybe the real lodge. It is a dream world, nothing after that point is real except probably the scene with bad cooper burning and dougie because it shows mike doing things rather than Cooper.

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>>87291763

>>87291184
>There's a clear inspiration taken by Lynch from a certain genre of anime
stopped there

David Lynch backwards spells SENILE CUNT

MYSTERY SOLVED

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>>87291645

no

>>87291782

>What did Laura whisper to Cooper?

Some anon maxed the volume and she says: "There's a clear inspiration taken by Lynch from a certain genre of anime, in particular the likes of Angel Beats (2010) and Charlotte (2015). Both heavily criticized for doing the exact same thing Twin Peaks did but it really does all fit together well if you're of an high IQ enough to understand and appreciate this type of story."

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>>87291775
I would beat your ass, but I think we can agree to disagree.

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>the bug with jumping man's face crawls in Sarah's mouth
>the music that plays when he appears in FWWM plays in the supermarket during her freakout
>his nose pops out of here face twice during the bar scene
>this

Why exactly are there still people who think Sarah is Judy?

>>87291208
Just a representation of the audience

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>>87291215
It will be soon.

>>87291764
i think the girl was sarah palmer and the bug was judy acting like a parasite to possess her once swallowed

>>87291786
I think it was meant to capture Judy but she was too strong. That is why Coop was ejected. And Mr. C was obsessed with finding Judy the whole season.

>>87291718
pretty sure the midget is never going to work in a lynch production ever again.

>>87291588
BOB isn't in control of his host 100% of the time. Since Mr. C is an innately evil creature, BOB can sit back and let his host harvest garmonbozia for him.

>>87291710

He didn't realize he was going to completely reshuffle reality and murder 7 billion people and then instantly create 7 billion new people. He just thought he would save Laura and then create a slightly different timeline where Laura survived and have everything be mostly the same but with just some changes because Laura never died.

Basically; don't fuck with time.

>>87291763
That's a really long story anon. White horses are, like, a thing.

>people actually don't know that Audrey is the dreamer and that Laura was the "little girl who lives down the lane"
>people don't know that Charlie changed her story, so now Cooper's stuck in a grittier tale of a jilted lover abetting a killer

Did people just miss when the arm asked Audrey's question?

>>87291829
nothing personal, michael (would probably beat YOUR ass, though)

If you add up all of the scenes of the roadhouse they create a parallel story to what happened this season.

>>87291348
Thriller

>>87291130
House turned into r'lyeh and Mrs. Tremond was trying to prevent Cthulhu / Judy / Sarah Palmer from rising up (but then she did and Laura Palmer went insane along with everyone else on the planet)

>>87291238

I think we're going to be in the minority of those who loved the ending. The entire episode had a subtle unnerving feel, and that final scene and image before cutting to black is goddamned creepy and like you said haunting.

>>87291774
"I'll see you again in 25 years"

Cooper thinks he got the year wrong and this isn't Laura.

>>87291763
Pale Horse of Death

>>87291810
sneed

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kino

>>87291763
I believe the white horse shows up whenever Sarah Palmer is drugged by leland. The horse is the white of the eyes meaning you lose consciousness when the horse appears. I think this is basically a symbol that Cooper is in a dream of some kind.

>>87291405
Theres a body alright

>>87291763
This is the water and this is the well. Drink full and descend. The horse is the white of the eyes and dark within.

Grace Zabriskie was legit my favorite part of S3

>>87291786
To try and capture Judy, but it failed

audrey wasn't in the finale AT ALL lmao, all she got was a fucking tree quoting her
throughly lynched

>>87291466
Have to agree on the first point. They definetely saved themselves some money there.

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>Cooper comes back after that whole Dougie ordeal only to accomplish nothing except be stuck into another nightmare realm trying to beat a literal demon goddess that can warp time, reality and people

>>87291710
>he doesn't know about the many-worlds interpretation

>>87291677
I swear it looked like it went from pickup truck to 1950's Packard to current day Lincoln Continental.

>>87291763
Symbolism is bullshit. Its just a white horse.

>>87291882
>anyone home?
>oh youre dead
>hey can i borrow your towels and some detergent
>man I love night drives
>STOP THE CAR I NEED TO PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>phew that was close!
>you can stay here at the gas station
>MAN THIS CAR IS FAST!
>where am i?!

>have a recurring nightmare about going back in time to when a friend almost got killed and trying to save her, but it backfires and gets worse
>see episode 17

did I just lynch myself

>>87291454
A MAN NEEDS A CLEAN HOUSE

Did Lynch forget about Audrey?

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>>87291855
Everytime a white horse appears, something really fucked is about to happen. Remember when Leland drugs Sarah and then rapes Laura in FWWM? While she is drugged out there is a white horse in her room. A white horse also appears in the first few episodes (I think the first) of Season 3. Also, you can't forget the eighth episode "The horse is the white of the eyes, and dark within," and the sound of a horse as the credits start rolling.

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>>87291897
same here. this was my fav scene

>>87291926
are you ok anon?

hey guys remember when josie got turned into a doorknob hahaha LOL

>>87291860
This. Charlie's the key to all of this.

>>87291896
could that all be an allegory/metaphor for how leland/bob drugged and raped laura or sarah?

>>87291449
This song made me cry before episode 16 when I finally accepted that pic related was evil Coop
Now its even worse

>people acting like this ending was so left field when it's Cooper's fault it happened
>Dale "I promise to never get romantically involved with another woman again, let me get romantically involved with this woman I barely know when a fucking serial killer is on the loose" Cooper
This is the same exact shit that happened in season 2. Cooper let his emotions and good intentions blind him and make him selfish, he tries to do the right thing, it comes back and fucks him and everyone else over in spectacular ways. Only difference is now he's not going to be at peace and he's dragged Laura into this mess.

Cooper created a world where every meaningful relationship he's ever had has been erased from existence and he's entirely to blame for it.

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BROOOOOTAL FOCHKIN KINO

>>87291947
you did this to me. put the screencaps in order ffs

I don't get it because cooper knows about the tremonds/chalfonts. Carl told him and he foind the ring where their trailer was. I mean I guess maybe he didn't remember but whatever.

>>87291921
Who knows maybe this is the lodge test that Hawk mentioned. Maybe after all this Cooper will finally enter the white lodge. Or maybe it is just a nightmare world and Cooper is basically trapped in hell forever.

>>87291912
Thoughts on the other points?

>>87291945
tfw too much of a brainlet to understand her character

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Everyone pissed is a bandwagon hopping Twin Peaks season 1 fan and not an actual fan of Lynch. This ending was just like Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive, Inland Empire, Eraserhead, Twin Peaks season 2 finale and even fucking Elephant Man. We all should have expected this. People are going to be deciphering and explaining this shit for decades. Fucking L Y N C H E D

>>87291458
Is anything in the book even relevant? There were no fucking aliens

>>87291963
What doesn't make sense?

>>87291973
basically bob but even worse

>>87291924
i usually agree with this but not for lynch, he's all symbolism and pulling shit out of your ass

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>>87291130
WTF I have a new best girl now

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>>87291952

Chip is the key to understanding S3

>The Man from Another Place tells Cooper, "when you see me again, it won't be me." Laura Palmer appears, saying she will see Cooper again in 25 years and then says "meanwhile" while doing the gesture for "tree" in sign language

Lynch planned to turn this guy into a tree didn't he?

>>87291601
are you from one of them countries where people get hanged for having torrent clients installed?
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/18524341/Twin_Peaks_3x18_(720p.WEB-h264-STRiFE)[VTV]

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>>87291814

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>Come back to resolve a cliffhanger 25 years later
>Destroy your timeline and leave an even bigger cliffhanger

Holy shit.

>>87291806

He goes to the lodge.
Phillip Jeffires creates a time-portal from the lodge back to February 23rd, 1989.
Cooper leaved the lodge and re-enters the real world in Twin Peaks in 1989.
He saves Laura from being murdered, takes her back to the black lodge but loses her at the entrance.
Coop re-enters black lodge. Saves diane.
Leaves lodge again with Diane.
Enters the new version of the real world he created by saving Laura.
Finds out he didn't just change the timeline by saving her but changed all of reality and everyone existing into someone else.

So it's basically;
>Real (2017)
>Lodge
>Real (1989)
>Lodge
>Real (new reality) (2017)

>time isn't linear in the Black Lodge
>Cooper has been in the Lodge even before Laura dies, as proven by FWWM
>this means Cooper has possibly played out the events of season 3 over and over again, creating new timelines just to save Laura, which he never truly can
>this is the personal hell he's doomed to live in forever
What are the odds this is true?

>>87291972
Don't know yet, will keep it in mind rewatching

>>87291872
I felt physically sick after watching it and still feel uneasy. It was one of the most heart ponding episodes and an amazing end to this fantastic ride. I haven't had this much fun watching a show with /tv/ since True Detective S1.

>>87291652
>Don't forget BOB had possession of Leland since Leland was 12 years old.
I thought Leland just said that Bob was raping him since he was 12, and didnt say exactly when he took over

>>87291937
I just want to know what the fuck was up with that. Seriously is she just trapped forever? Was the roadhouse ever real? I would have preferred if she just died in that bank after this.

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>>87291924
Yeah. Symbolism is bullshit. There was actually a white horse in Sarah's bedroom when Leland raped Laura.

haha :)

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>25 years later Coop yet again makes the classic mistake of trusting the black lodge to come through

The only thing that made me impressed is when he made that little twirly motion with the fingers to open the curtain in advance. Makes it seem like he's already at home there and knows where to go and skip the bs.

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Are we going to get a S4?

>>87291996
lol he probably did and MJA knew and got pissed about it and threw a fit.

I GOT LYNCHED AND NOW I CANT SLEEP
IVE SLEPT FOR BARELY 3 HOURS AND MY HEART KEEPS PUMPING HARD EVERY TIME I LAY DOWN
FUCK I GOT LYNCHED BAD HELP MEEE

>coop knew about freddie
he literally orchestrated everything

based

What was the creature in the cube who killed those kids

>>87292010
Sigh

>>87291763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db4Nds4BOVo

>thinking there would be an actual ending
HAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>87291525
According to wiki, population of Odessa, TX is 118,918 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odessa,_Texas).

The sign with the Odessa population on it that Coop/Richard/whoeverthefuckheisnow drives past had a number 99,000-something as the population.

Either we're when Odessa TX had a population in that range or in the future Odessa has lost population.

>>87292018
Doesn't mean it has an objective meaning that Lynch planned for everyone to find out. Its literally just a white horse. Don't overthink it kiddo

>>87291977
What's really funny is people think Judy's happy about or had control of what happened. Seemed fucking furious to me.

>>87291981
>project blue book is obsessed with aliens
>assumes spirits are aliens
>Douglas Milford concludes they aren't aliens
>dumbasses still think the book is about aliens

>>87292012
>>87291872

both of you are faggots.

the final scene is 10/10 god tier kino, but the episode as a whole was 0/10 gash

>>87292001
there is no cliffhanger. it was a bad end, evil won

>>87291977
>Inland Empire
>a bad ending
What the fuck are you talking about? She beats the curse and the ghosts are laid to rest. How is that at all on the level of the rest of those?

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Man, what the hell did I just fucking watch?

>>87292022
yea

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>>87291588
Vedderchecked

>>87292008
Don't know why Coop went from solving the mystery of who killed Laura to I'm going to fucking save her and prevent her death

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WHERE
THE
FUCK
WAS
HER
DOPPLEGANGER
LYNCHHHHHHHH

>>87292008
the Fireman and the Arm seem to know what he's doing so i doubt it's an eternal thing

>>87292037

literally Judy. an ancient interdimensional being of "pure negative energy" that used to be called "Jao-day" that changed to Judy over time

>>87292007
I don't subscribe to that one. I think most of what we saw was a manifestation of Cooper's subconscious. It's not that it wasn't real it was that his subconscious was brought into reality in dream form. I don't think there was any time travel and I think the evidence for it is less than the evidence for it being a dream world which means it's hard to trust anything as coherent or casually related.

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>>87291525

>>87292037
judy, i guess. all the wounds from judy and her spawn look the same

ok so assuming laura was dreaming and she wakes up is cooper in limbo now like Jeffries?

>>87292056
Because he knows what her fate is and has experienced that agony along with her for at least 25 years.

>>87292064
Part 8 shows that Laura is Judy's doppelganger.

if you wanted part 17 to be the ending you're a bitch nigga

two questions:

1. What did Mr. C wanted with Naido (Diane)?

2. Where was Cooper and Diane headed before they warped into the "new dimension"? He was talking that things were going to change - but he already had failed at saving Laura. Where was he going? To do what?

>>87292014

He says he met bob by the lake where his parents took him when he was a kid.

>Would you like to play with fire, little boy?

He was possessed shortly after.

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>>87291924

WHAT ABOUT THE RASH???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

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>one punch m8 actually punched bob right the fuck out
KINO

>the entire last episode

>>87292007
>Enters the new version of the real world he created by saving Laura.

How did he save Laura, when someone steals her while they are walking in the forest? If anything she is in danger again.

I didn't know you can hear Sarah call Laura's name right before she screams

Wish I had heard it on first viewing because that makes a little more sense

>>87292042
The sign was in the 99,000s back in 2015 when they filmed it.

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>>87292068
Hey friend I couldn't hear you back there what did you say?

>>87292019
Cooper's a dumbass who misinterpreted Mike's desire to stop BOB as some desire to do goodness. All the Lodge spirits ever cared about was stopping BOB to get the set the garmbonbozia balance back in order. They don't give a shit about anything else. If anything, I bet they're happy this happened because Cooper's garmonbozia is the gift that keeps on giving.

>>87291943
Any idea where "This is the water. And this is the well. Drink full and descend." plays into this?

>>87292042
They don't update those signs every year, only when the census is updated.

>>87291973
Her sorrow, grief, and mental deterioration, combined with her natural psychic ability, made her a prime host for Judy. She was also the little girl that swallowed the frog.

>>87291996
He was referring to the doppelganger that shows up later that episode. Which makes no sense since FWWM and S3 establish that he's MIKE's Arm. Why would he have a doppelganger? I'd say it's pretty clear that Lynch and Frost originally planned on the dwarf being much more important to the overall lore, like how the Fireman, Judy, Laura, and BOB ended up in S3.

why is there a piece of turd by trumans phone

>>87292044
Except it does, because people have already deciphered it you brainlet.
See:
>>87291943
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>>87291896

>>87291977
this. we could have got a happy ending with everyone reunion and it probably would have been decent or whatever but this was on a completely different ballpark. he completely trumped the s2 cliffhanger. kino.

>>87292100

nothing Mr. Jeffries, sir

I didn't say anything

>people are so used to force fed answers and conclusions to entertainment, they don't realize we actually have all the answers

I wish people would use critical thinking and maybe think outside the box in order to understand what's going on. We have all the information, it just needs to be connected. Goddamn try to use your creativity for once, you fucking morons.

>>87292107
Dugpa incantation to knock people out.

>>87292102
MIKE being a "good" lodge spirit never made sense to me

He eats pain and suffering

disheveled coop is pretty devastating.

>>87291692
Is that a FAMAS

>>87292040
>song is literally about overcoming the senses and going beyond the physical and pain
>people and children especially do this when being abused
THE HOLE NEVER ENDS

>>87291921
>accomplished nothing
He literally saved everyone except himself. In a way he even saved himself with his Tulpa/clone and it's probably still possible for him to fix/escape the alternate timeline/dimension, even if we never see it. A version of Dale is living happily ever after with Janey-E. Audrey, Briggs, Leland, Sarah, etc are all saved because of him.

I'm fully convinced people are telling themselves this was great because they want it to be. Where is the brilliance of this show besides KM? I just felt bitter and had to finish it off because I had already sunk so much time watching it this summer. When the show was being twin peaks it was a lot of weird creepy fun but so many parts were unnecessarily long winded and just dragged on forever. So much of this show could of been cut because it was just filler. I didn't expect everything to be tied up in a nice little bow tie but I wasn't expecting a big F U either. It was entirely unsatisfying and I'm just pissed I wasted so much time and money on this. If they just ended it with episode 17 I would of been slightly ok with it but fuck episode 18.

>>87292120
Nope. Just people looking for shit that isn't there.

>>87292070
>I don't subscribe to that one

It's pretty basic to be honest. There are some questions about the episode but this part isn't really one of them.

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I can't breathe, I've been lynched too hard. Help me, guys.

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>yfw Cooper wakes up before Laura does and feels the weight of existential horror fall upon him before she awakens to the suffering she's resigned to endure

Cooper seemed to know to drive 430 miles from the very vague '430' from the Fireman. He and real Diane also knew something weird would happen driving forward after 430 miles.

So, what did Cooper expect going through with that, and why did the Fireman want him to do it?

>>87291977
I'm a Season 1, Season 2, FWWM, and Episode 1-16 fan desu

Maybe I like Frost and not Lynch

>>87292145
ok. bye.

>>87292126

>making excuses for the literal fucking disaster that was E18

"i-it's s-supposed to be b-bad you p-pleb..!"

>>87292090
>What did Mr. C wanted with Naido (Diane)?
No clue. This is all speculation but I imagine he kept her alive originally just in case he needed more material for Diane tulpas, then by the time he realized stuff was starting to unravel and she was in the real world again, he had to kill her to tie up loose ends.

>Where was Cooper and Diane headed before they warped into the "new dimension"?
Again, just a guess, but maybe he expected for her to stay with him all the way through. Keep in mind that this woman is, next to Laura, the most important person in his life, and he hasn't seen her in decades.

>meanwhile norma and ed are happily married

Not fully lynched, no.

>>87291787
>"girl who lived down the lane"
This phrase makes me think more of the girl from part 8 than Laura

>>87292146
Please stop replying to me you mental midget. Save posts for people who actually know how to use their noggins.

>>87292096

He saved her from being murdered.

Who took her and and why and to where is unknown, but wherever she went she wasn't killed by Leland. The wrapped in plastic body disappeared and reality was changed.

Yet again, there's a sped up voice during the the Jumping man scene, the same one from the first time we saw the Jumping Man. Why?
https://clyp.it/hvhe2an1

>>87291996
>when you see me again, it won't be me

He was referencing his doppelganger, because that's the next thing Cooper sees.

>>87292170
fuck off retard

>>87292046
>this cuck can't handle his LYNCHING
Go back to watching your stranger things reddit fag

How did Diane get into the lodge in the first place?

Does anyone else find it suspicious that Mrs. Tremond and Mrs. Chalfont both owned that house? Were they trying to tell him something? Cooper knows these names.

>>87292170
Not him but that was weak as fuck.

>>87292147
No I think it is. Why would Janey-E be ecstatic to see dougie again and why would there be a need to recreate dougie or why even have dougie at all anymore since the events of Twin Peaks never happened so therefore Dougie never existed. Yet they chose to have a scene with Dougie reuniting with Janey-E. This tells me nothing actually changed in the "real" world and that Cooper is in an entirely separate reality. What's more is that entire sequence is structured exactly like a dream. One scene doesn't always follow from the next and when it does it still doesn't make sense like when Cooper wakes up in the wrong hotel.

>>87292201
it was literally explained last week

>>87292097
They should've made it louder honestly. I wouldn't have known if someone didn't post a screenshot with subtitles on here.

>>87292201
Dopplecoop kidnapped her, turned her into Naido and made a tulpa

>>87292201
Mr C took her to the convenience store after he raped her.

>>87292143
he erased that reality but changing the past

pls dont many worlds me

>>87292037
Judy/mother of all evil

>>87292201
Bad Dale threw her in there after he raped her. Her Tulpa said this.

>>87291814
Your bias is taking over the critical thinking part of your brain again

>>87292097
>>87292224
i heard it immediately

was it because im using headphones?

To be honest it's kind of obvious what happened.

This is just an elaborate way of opening the door to another season by creating a situation where it is possible to not have regular cast members come back.
He can literally pick and choose who gets to be present in the "new reality" so he can write out all the dead weight chumps with inflated salaries.
If he wants he can make an entire season or a movie or whatever he wants with just Coop and Laura and nobody else.

Bravo.

>>87292158
>yfw Cooper wakes up back in S1E3 when he first had his dream of the red room

>>87292056
The Fireman created Laura to deal with the problem Judy was creating on Earth. Cooper and Diane understood the consequences of what they were about to attempt and had the help of Mike and Philip Jeffiries to that end.

After Cooper saved Laura and her corpse disappeared, Judy/Sarah was moaning in agony. pissed off and tried to destroy Laura's portrait with no success. Judy created the alternate reality to trap Laura.

Laura is pivotal in The Fireman's plan in dealing with Judy.

>>87292259
If anything it'll just he a movie.

Are Richard and Linda supposed to be Cooper and Diane's identities in the new reality, but only Cooper remembers the old timeline?

>>87292047
Mrs. Tremond isn't evil, Bozo. Mrs. Chalfont is also Mrs. Tremond. The RR was fine, the sign was lit up and everything. Deal with it.

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