Regular AT-ATs in The Last Jedi

How will you know how much bigger and cooler the new ones are if there's nothing to compare them to?

>>87269951
the big ones look like gorrillas

>bigger at-at
>bigger death star
>bigger star destroyer
>cuter r2
thats how you know its good

>>87269951

>Don't talk to me or my son ever again!

>>87270498
You're right, I can see that.

*members*

>>87269951
What nature documentary is this?

>>87270714
The tell-tale sign that they director is creatively bankrupt.
>I know team, let's make everything bigger than before! Bigger EPIC sized ships!! Bigger explosions! BIGGER THIS BIGGER THAT!

>>87269951

It is actually literally going to be a direct rip off of empire isn't it?
They're actually going to just copy paste the entire movie, without actually bringing over the quality of writing.
The characters are going to be cutout shits and every shot is just going to be 'REMEMBER EMPIRE WELL THIS IS 20X BIGGER WOO!'

And the worst thing is millions of fucking plebs will gobble this shit up and there will be grown fucking adults running around in the streets fucking cumming in their pants because 'wooo star wars I'm such a nerd'.

>>87271463
This.

Disney has ruined everything.

>>87271463
Yes. You hit the nail on the head anon.
The only question is who will pull a "I am your father" to Rey?

>>87269951
>Why?
Because Star Wars knows they can shamelessly rehash old shit and nobody will care because >muh nostalgia.

At least the prequels had interesting, new designs.

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Here's something nobody is talking about

POOPING AT-ATS!!!

The large objects you see on the back of this AT-AT are actually large, barrel shaped mines.

As the AT-M6 walks along it drops these mines behind it. Basically just like a horse that poops when it walks.

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW A DESIGNER COULDN'T HAVE MADE THIS CONNECTION!!!

THESE ARE POOPING AT-ATS!!

I bet they are making the obi wan story to introduce his love interest and in ep 9 we find out rey is his daughter

>>87269951
These are the least of the problems that the new movie will have, although it will be symptomatic of why it will be bad. The creators will focus more on superficial elements instead of on good storytelling and characterization.

>>87270498
>black protagonist
>black X-Wings
>black AT-AT
When will the SJW's have enough?

>>87271122
upvoted

>>87271551
No it'll be "I am your cousin" or some shiettttt from Kylo.
Or maybe Snoke will say "I am your father."
There WILL be a big family reveal for Rey in VIII, they need to copy what ESB did in that way.

Those things look awful. Why do they feel the need to add on random bullshit everywhere? OT Star Wars didn't do that. Greebles are not the same thing as random function-less protrusions.

>>87269951
>there are people alive right now who didn't acknowledge that TFA was a blatant rip off of ANH and don't believe TLJ will be a rip off of ESB
Is the human race actually retarded? Do we deserve death?

>>87269951
Embarrassing. Can't believe there will be faggots defending this over the Prequels.

>>87270498
They're sloths

>>87271463
I hate to say it, but it does look like a remixed Empire

>Luke training Rey on an isolated planet is just Luke being trained by Yoda but it's different because it happens at the start instead of the end
>there's even a submerged X-wing on the planet
>AT-AT Walkers vs. Speeders on what looks like a flat white salt plain, but it's different because it happens at the end of the movie
>No Death Star, instead there is a massive star destroyer but it's different because it's a flying-wing design and not a triangle
>Casino Planet and DJ is just Cloud City and Lando all over again but it's different because it's not in the clouds and there's an asian girl

I like how Disney keeps representing the First Order with bigger and bigger ordinance to warn the audiences subtlety about the dangers of globalization.

>>87271551
That moment will be Kylo telling Rey that Luke killed her parents

IT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE HOTH BATTLE. THE HOTH BATTLE DIDN'T HAVE TIE-FIGHTERS AND TIE BOMBERS IN THE SKY.

-Reddit

>>87271703
not just poop I'm afraid:

>Insider sources claim there will be a full-on mating scene (your read that right, AT-AT intercourse), reportedly the 3D version of the much anticipated second installment will go full-Disneyland. Portable "splat-cannons" are already starting to be delivered to select theaters and IMAX across the country. Everyone in the first 5 rows is guaranteed to get totally soaked! Believe it or not that's not the only time the audience can expect to be slimed -- the ICEE company filed a patent for a mystery flavor trademarked as Finn-Juice, causing Star Wars fans around the world to rejoice in the wake of rumors of a certain salt and pepper duo sharing a spicy on-screen romp.

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The Supremacy? More like, The Overcompensator. How small can Snoke's dick be if he needs a 60 km spacecraft to feel better about himself?

>>87272836
There will be articles with headlines like
>"The Last Jedi is the new Empire Strikes Back and that's a Good thing"

Can't wait to see Reddit Letter Media praising this.

>>87272919
Stop that. You stop that right now.

Wonder if they'll have an asteroid chase

>>87272947
They won't. The main reason they gave TFA a pass is because it was the first entry outside of Lucas's meaty claws. A "soft reboot."

>>87272850
Man whatever's going on with Snoke's dick is the least of his problems physically

>>87272836
>IT'S DIFFERENTFROM HOTH EUFAG! HOTH WAS SNOW, THIS IS A SALT LAKE! THE WHITE FLAT PLAIN IN TLJ IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THEN THE WHITE FLAT PLAIN IN ESB!
You know there are people who will unironically say this.

>>87271463
>"And again, it's like poetry, it's sort of, they rhyme. Every stanza kind of rhymes with the last one. Hopefully it'll work

>>87273056
Yeah but George's version of poetry was the Geonosis battle rhyming with Hoth, not just having another scene with the same walkers.

>>87273009
HAHAHA. Whatever you say, Mike.

>>87273041
Is it though?

>>87273119
I would say having a giant vagina in your throat is the worse affliction

>>87273111
How did the Genosis battle rhyme with Hoth?

>>87273165
I'm assuming his ancient dusty dong is in worse shape.

>>87273181
It was inverted

The droid walkers were acting defensively and trying to get their ships off the planet while the Jedi/Clone troopers were invading.

Another example of good George Pottery is having Obi-Wan track Boba Fett through that asteroid field.

>>87273111
Even thought the Prequels were executed poorly in story and in characterization, they did have cool elements to them (Some alien designs, vehicle designs, based John Williams when he still wrote good, distinct, memorable scores). I give credit to the prequels for trying to do something different, but that's about all the credit they get.

>>87273181
It was a giant fight that displayed the power of the clones, similar to how the Hoth battle showed the force of the Empire.

>>87269951
I suppose you could argue that the First Order is just an Imperial remnant, so naturally they use a lot of imperial equipment. You could argue that....if they hadn't already revealed that the First Order is richer and more powerful than the Empire ever was (for no explicable reason).

>>87273244
At least George had the balls to create new ships and planets that felt like they were from an earlier, different time.

We're 30 years out from RoTJ and they're still just using X-wings and TIES - George wouldn't have done that, he'd at least try to make it visually different.

>>87273311
True. Different time, different setting. Different setting, potentially different technology, vehicles, etc. I think, though, had the new movies actually had a decent story with decent characterization, the lack of new tech and visuals wouldn't bother me as much an would be more of a minor gripe. Unfortunately Disney can't in2 writing. It's all about putting butts in seats and making sure everyone buys up the merchandise to jizz on later.

>>87272850
At least this is a nice looking design. That and Kylo's shuttle have been the only shit so far that isn't utter garbage.

>>87273246
>>87273234

Bullshit, it showed the power of the empire ABOVE the rebels, in not a surprise attack, the rebels were perpared for the invasion here. Hoth had the ion cannon, well perpared defensive positions. The walkers literally fucked it.

Episode 2 was a CGI mess, hordes of droids and clones killing each others. Even getting the Jedi in there was confusing other than the coolness factor.

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South Park was right.

>>87273293
Oh god. this feels like a DM extending the sauce for too long.
"But THIS god of chaos is INCREDIBLY MORE POWERFUL! Than that god you just defeated."

>>87273577
You're retarded. Just because you didn't like the movie doesn't mean parts weren't meant to rhyme with ESB. Clones/stormtroopers invading a desert/ice planet with the attacking/defending roles switched is an obvious inversion of Hoth.

>>87269951
it's going to be white sand though, not snow.

>>87273577
You're reading too far into the pottery. I don't think it goes any deeper than George thinking, "Hrm. This one had a battle. This one shall also have a battle. Huh, it rhymes."

>>87273009
But that's where RLM is making their mistake. They have the attitude that "TFA NEEDED to be a soft reboot"

it didn't

>>87274212
Nah, from Disney's point of view it makes perfect sense. Star Wars fans are the hardest to please.

>5'8 vs 5'9

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>>87272846

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>>87274212
>soft reboot

>>87274622
I think fans would have perfectly pleased with just logically continuing the story after RoTJ with new enemies and heroes as long as Luke, Leia, and Han were around since that's exactly what most people were expecting.

Starkiller was just way too on the nose

>>87272919
i'm so fucking sick of this style of patronizing titles

>>87274873
>10 Reasons TLJ is better than ESB
>#1 - Luke is cooler than Yoda
>#2 - PORGS!
>#3 - Better lightsaber battles

you get the idea, it's coming so prepare now

>>87270714
>bigger personnel carriers
>bigger aircraft carriers
>bigger jets
>cuter gadgets
almost like real life or something

>>87275098
Yeah I too have always wanted Star Wars to be exactly like real life

>>87275098
This is star wars not real life, realfag.

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>>87275135
>>87275143
Star Wars is and has always been a reflection of real life cultural and technological shit. The same amount of time has passed in the fictional universe as the real one, so what specifically do you expect? We used helicopters 40 years ago. We use them now too.

Plus, we saw what happened when an idiot tries to do "new things" with the established franchise. It was cancerous trash. George is to blame for all of it.

FOR SCALE

THAT IS LITERALLY YOUR CHILDHOOD SUMMED UP AS PLOT RELEVANCE

SEE YOU IN SOME GOOD SCI FI MAYBE?

>>87275462
Star wars takes place in an alien universe, not Earth. Your point is retarded. You dont need to mimic real life to tell a story.

>>87275462
At the very least, the First Order TIEs should have been Interceptors because those were superior to original TIEs in every way.

Yeah I get it, we still use fighter jets that look roughly the same so the X-Wing can stay becuase it's a proven design. But that's also just a lazy lore reason to keep the "iconic" ships. They could have at least looked a little bit different.

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Should have used the designs for the U-Wing and Tie Striker from Rogue One in TFA

>>87269951
They move in herds......they do move in herds.

> Original Trilogy: reflection of the Vietnam War sentiment with underpowered, undermanned heroes defeating a technologically superior foe that once was a fair and just nation but has devolved into a tyranny keeping everyone in their grasp through fear of a weapon of mass destruction;
> Prequel Trilogy: metaphore for post 9/11 world where a great and powerful nation gives into fear and violence and becomes a monstrosity, personified in the figure of Darth Vader
> Sequel Trilogy: ?

>>87269951

Well, if they work, why not?

>>87275979
>reflection of Trump election, a world where "literally nazis" rise up

>>87275979
> Sequel Trilogy : White people are baaaaad, also buy our shit and praise our films even tho they have no substance or care put into them, but at least they look sorta pretty

>>87275098
todays jets are the same design but bigger than jets in 1940?

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>>87275979
>government reports attack from religious group
>world turns against group, attacking them where they are seen
>war on religious terrorists ensues
George confirmed for Islamic shilling

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>>87275979
>America is evil

>>87275979

PT is more of a bloated government not being able to do anything in the face of threats, which leads to a greater war within itself, with the Empire emerging.

Roman Republic to Empire fits better.

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>>87271463
this but unironically in case it was supposed to be ironic

>>87269951
Because fan service
There's no tactical advantage to using them anywhere
But Star Wars fans love them because they think they're supposed to

>>87269951
>>87270437
This is a huge miss on Lucasfilm's part because they don't make the new walkers look big they just make the old ones look tiny.

>>87276635

I doubt they're any less effective than when in TESB.

Lasers don't do any more damage from what we've seen.

>>87275979
>Sequel Trilogy: Remake OT but with new faces and BIGGER everything

>>87276784

>with FEMINISM and forced DIVERSITY

>>87276867
I really hope the leaks are true and Luke initially hates Rey and wants her to leave just so she runs into a single obstacle for once.

>>87270498
Wtf are you talking about ?........Okay now i see it

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>>87276984
No, she's gonna be OP as fuck. Literally a retcon of "The Chosen One", as in she'll be a new Anakin but more powerful. It's gonna be fucktarded. Well at least according to these supposed leaks a while ago.

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>>87277230
It's bigger, so it's better.

The next sequel will have everyone in DK Mode.

>>87273311
>At least George had the balls to create new ships and planets that felt like they were from an earlier, different time

No they didn't, it all just felt retarded. If George hadn't failed so abysmally, star wars wouldn't still be suffering from the damage that fat autistic hack did.

>>87277126
This guy was proven to be a liar and a fraud. He was BTFO so many times he never came back. Now we have hard proof, like certain book leaks, that prove once again that he was nothing but a LARPing faggot.

>>87269951
BIG

>>87277278
What's one thing he said that's wrong?

>>87276984

You know she'll end up teaching Luke things and won't fail anywhere near as much as Luke did with Yoda.

Search your feelings.

>>87277325
Literally all of it. Not going to go over it again. This was the Sloth faggot.

But here's one quick example. Rey is not the chosen one. She's not the first force user. She's just a Kenobi. That's it.

>>87276187
Technically countries are using the same airframes from 30+ years ago. Avionics are different of course as I'm sure the new X-wings and TIE-Fighters are. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't be using A-WIngs and Interceptors instead though.

>>87277393
i need more spoilers anon

>>87277393
>hurr durr all of it
Ok, so give one specific example
>Rey is a Kenobi
Source?

>>87275462
>It was cancerous trash.
For you.

>>87269951
this is cause all the fucking normies don't know how to describe good storytelling or character development so when they focus group and get a bunch of normies they freak out and go "uhhh uhhh the at-at was cool! i bet you can make it cooler!"
you've rogue oned the last jedi i hope you're fucking happy

>>87271463
Snoke will be revealed to be small just like Yoda in Empire.

>>87277230
>Empire: More star destroyers to out number foe and one big one for support
>First order:Let's make a really big one lmao

>>87272834
he was a good friend

>>87273540

>implying the finalizer star destroyers aren't aesthetic

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Say it.

>>87279069
Sorry George
You were a hack, but these disney fucks are even bigger hacks

>>87279045
i hate this gif
why doesn't he just stretch the left side instead of moving it? there's no point

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>>87272846
It's... it's beautiful

>>87279069
I miss you George
I never thought id say this after the prequels
God i fucking hate disney so much

>>87279069
I'm sorry George.

>>87279251
I know this is exactly what Disney was hoping for with this series and it's so fucking gay. Holocaust 2.0 when?

>>87275078
I want to punch you in the face for writing that fuck you cunt it is going to be real now

>>87279419
It's true... ALL OF IT

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>>87269951
>the First Order somehow has more resources than the Empire
>the Rebellion, which was successful and instilled their own government, are calling themselves "the Resistance" even though they are now the status quo.

>>87272783
fugggggg you're righ

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>>87272850
>the supremacy
They're not even trying anymore, it's like they're directly baiting angry lefties. I'm insulted, but mostly because other left-wingers will eat this shit up. Fucking morons.

>>87269951
Student drivers?

>>87280346

>read our comics and books to learn why this is!

Even the explanation is shit

>>87276426
It's true, senpai. All of it.

>>87275979
>Prequel Trilogy: metaphore for post 9/11
Episode I came out in '99

>>87269951
List of things that new AT-AT's hump cannon is effective against:
- another new AT-AT that is directly in front of it
- an extremely tall skyscraper

What a great design!

>>87275098
Art is supposed to be creative, not copycat.

>>87279069
Sorry Lucas

>>87275462
You are comparing a fantasy with a reality. We want fantasy, not the same shit we see every day.

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>>87271703

>exposed mines

>>87269951
Do the bigger ones fuck the smaller ones?

>>87281424
I wonder what the alliance will shoot at?

>>87270714
VERY COOL.

>>87272850
Looks kind of comfy.

very cool

>>87275462

Except that's not how military development works you fucking mongoloid. Do you have any idea how different tech and vehicles are now compared to 1977?

>>87281963

I'd much rather have a mobile base, really.

Fixed bases, whilst offering ease of use for construction and additions, are still in one place.

If you can build it, then you may as well go mobile.

>>87273056
>>87273111
it's less poetry and more lil wayne rhyming nigga with nigga

>Far bigger, far more powerful Death Star
>Far bigger, far more powerful Star Destroyers
>Bigger/more powerful AT-AT's

How does the First Order manage to be more powerful than the Empire at its peak?

>>87283217

Supposedly, it's pretty much the Empire with the fat trimmed off.

The main portion went to the unknown regions (a silly concept with galaxy travel in days) and consolidated forces and returned 30 years later.

only fanboys will like this shit. #7 was disappointing as fuck being a remake and Rey knowing how to do tricks and competing against THE sithlord. fuck outta here. If they just make a series it would be much better

>>87283275
How are they funding all this? where's the manpower from?

why do we still know so very little about it years in to the last movie?

>>87272850
>mega class deztroyer
Did an 8 year old write this?

>>87283382

Just turn your brain off, the prequels had politics, which means in this movie we won't have any politics at all even if it means the basic premise is made vague and unclear and there are dozens of legitimate plot holes and contrivances.

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>>87275586
So in this alien universe their militaries just magically stop having equipment from years ago? Why is it that you think it makes more sense that there would be entirely new or different shit 40 years later? That's not how entropy works. You're demanding a greater suspension of disbelief just because you want even more novel looking fucking toys?

It isn't about mimicking real life, but the entire appeal of the OT was that it was a human story in a fantastic setting. Like in Clerks a lot of the fun was thinking about the bureaucracy of this very human esque space empire operated. It makes less sense that they'd have entirely different shit 40 years later.
>>87275686
>They could have at least looked a little bit different.
Yeah and I think as the movies progress they will get more creative with it. Again though if it wasn't for the PT being so shitty and awful with it's shiny aesthetic and desperately different "world building" to grow the IP, Disney wouldn't have been in the situation where they had to go so hard in the paint about recreating the OT aesthetic. George tried adding legs to his robots and he tried doing new shit with his space jets and it was the cinematic equivalent of morning breath.

>>87283382

Supposedly, Snoke has a big fanbase in the former Imperial worlds and moderate Republicans, and they give him the dollars which he spends on building shit in secret.

TLJ focuses on this aspect with the Finn and Rose story line.

>>87283629
How do you know all this? It wasn't even really clear what the First Order was in TFA. I had no idea wtf who they were or who was fighting them. Was totally lost.

>>87279238
While hate is a strong word, I do share your autism

>>87283698

Leaks mostly, and they seem to be correct because MSW also says similar things; the director also alludes to it

Finn and Rose go undercover to look into who's funding Snoke's group, and who Snoke is

>>87269951

Now, they're similar, but they're different.
It's kind of like the difference between dogs and wolves.
The one's that are running things up there, the larger ones, hunt the smaller ones.
It's some kind of blood feud, I guess.
Been going on for a long time.

>>87280346
JJ deleted all the scenes providing political context because he thought any discussion of politics would be too prequels-y and distract from jerking off to OT nostalgia.

>>87283549

Only a fucking idiot would fall back on the "W-Well Disney had to nostalgiabait to get people back!"

They would have gotten seats in theaters regardless of what aesthetic they had. The OT circlejerking is a product of JJ and Simon Pegg being manchildren upset about the PT.

>>87273293
>if they hadn't already revealed that the First Order is richer and more powerful than the Empire ever was (for no explicable reason).

starforge

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>>87271463
Exactly. And '7' isn't aging well either. Even the normies are waking up to how trite it was.

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>>87269951
>Yfw Rey dies in the first 10 minutes and the rest of the movie is just about old man Skywalker

Plz

>>87271420

Either that or Disney gave him a list of 'remember that!?' shit to include

>>87277230
WE BRAKE FOR ABSOLUTELY NO ONE

>>87271551
probably another immaculate midichlorinception

>>87280816
Yeah but (((Lucas))) knew.

>>87272850
how about the sheer lunacy of a 60km wide ship.

how many tonnes of space debris does it collect/collide with on an hourly basis

>>87286359
Oooooooo
Blackdudefrogoooohmouthwideeyes.jpeg

>>87275462

the excuse making is off the charts

>>87269951
Jessus look at this hunch-backed, toaster-faced, backwards-leg-having, triple-butt-plug-wearing abomination! Truly this is the power of the female force.

>>87269951
>The rebel forces took down at-ats by using thier large size against them

>lets make them bigger

this franchise died long ago..

>>87282926
the point he's making is stupid in the context of a sci-fi romp, but many military airframes and vehicles designed and introduced in the late 70s-early 80s are just now starting to be phased out (admittedly after heavy retrofitting and upgrade programs)

>>87269951
Because why would you just dispose of AT-ATs that you already have? May as well use them, scrapping them would problem take more time than it's worth. Also because it makes the new ones look bigger and more "epic"

Should have gone the way of the AT-TE where it got closer to the ground and couldn't be tripped up by some wires.

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>>87279069
>you will NEVER see another creative, Campbell-inspired space fantasy unfold gorgeously across the screen in your lifetime
pjdimsa

>>87283549
The Utapau people looked good with the lines coming down their head though, I dont see how george is in the wrong in the webm

>>87280299
Saved

Why are Star wars fans never happy? They've been using the copy and paste argument since Empire,

>>87280346
>The (R)ebellion, which won both houses of Congress and installed themselves in the White House, Supreme Court, and two thirds of all governor's mansions, call themselves unable to pass anything due to "obstructionism"
What did Disney mean by this? I won't lie, it took me a little aback

>>87271703
>slow assault walker
>dropping mines behind it as it approaches the enemy
>dropping mines where the enemy has no reason to be
I know Disney Wars is dumb but surely they're not THAT retarded

>>87275979
Sequel should of been the "First order" is just allahu ackbars trying to get people to rebel against a globalization of the galaxy version or something.

>>87276187
Well, most modern jets are far larger than the early WW2 era aircraft.

Look at the British Venom for example, that thing is qt small

>>87286236

I love Spaceball-1. It's introduction is supposed to be a joke, but imagine doing that just to really show off how enormously powerful a ship was.

>>87272919
thanks buzzfeed

>>87272783
>>>87271463
>I hate to say it, but it does look like a remixed Empire
>>No Death Star, instead there is a massive star destroyer but it's different because it's a flying-wing design and not a triangle

The new Death Star is a surprise reveal at the end.

>>87289944

That's not even the writer's opinion, they're just paid to do shit like that by whoever gives them the check.

Camels. Make them like like Camels.

>>87288381
You realize people post WEBMs out of context, right?

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>>87288450
Because Empire is still one of the only sequel movies that takes the original in a new direction.
There are a bunch of things in ESB that were not in the original, and thats why it's so incredible.
ROTJ was clearly a recycle of the first movie and a rework of all the ideas that didn't fit in the other two, which is why its such a let down. Ever since then, its been derivative with only a few new and interesting things being created.
Could have made a whole trilogy about Thrawn, Kyle Katarn, and Luke's new Jedi Academy where you can bring in Luke and Leia's kids to complete the hero cycle.
We got jewed out of it, and to this day i still don't understand George's motives.

>>87291747
No one understands George's plan.

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Did anyone else get a boner from that little droid's feet being tortured by that tall, spectral smelter droid? The sadistic pleasure in forcing the droid to anticipate his own humiliating ordeal, burning and burning his sensitive little soles? Focusing all his malicious energy on those helpless little members?

>>87275098
so why aren't our jets as big as the aircraft carriers they sit on? and why aren't the aircraft carriers 10x bigger than what they are now?

>>87269951
I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW

>>87275979
>Le north Vietnam were Le good guys!! Fug amerikkka
>HAAHA LOL KIM JONG UN FAILED HERMIT STATE, SOUTH KOREA IS SO KOOL STARCRAFT KPOP AMIRITE

i can't wait to not catch up on these movies.

>>87269951
>inverted front knee joints
Why?

Other then manchild reasons, why do they still use all the exact same technology as they did 40 years ago? It's like if we were still using technology from the first world war at the start of the cold war.

>>87272846

WOOKIPEDIA NO!!!!

>>87276426
>>87292282
t. delusional americans.
why are you even talking about korea? americans really are dumb

>>87292315
I'm thinking it's to prevent the leg from being crippled if the knee is hit from the front by some sort of blast

>>87272850
when the fuck did they build this
why did the rebels not say anything about snoke before even though hes the supreme leader of the empire

???????????????

nah not that important

this whole plot makes no fucking sense

>>87286426

A lot, that's why they have plasma shields

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>>87269951
DUDE REMEMBER ALL THAT SHIT FROM THE PREVIOUS FILMS? LET'S MAKE THEM EVEN BIGGER

>>87292319
We're still using tanks.

>>87279069
>/tv/ LITERALLY APOLOGIZING TO LUCAS

>>87277230
Why does it need so many engines? Once you're in motion in space it's really easy to stay in motion. No real need for that many engines

>>87292336
Because in that instance America succeeded in preserving the South as its own country without Communist rule and they were all the better for it. Not saying American participation in the Vietnam war was well-advised or carried out well at all, but if the South had won or even held out with the help of the Americans, America certainly wouldn't get the shitty wrap they've had for the past half-century for it.
t. Australian

>>87269951
who else thinks they're gonna have another white people are evil nazi-esque scene like in the recent starwars movie?

>>87292472
also, i'll bet $1 million they're gonna add a homosexual propaganda scene

>>87269951
>realizing that the new Walker design makes more practical sense in mobility with the way the feet are built.

>>87279069
WE LOVE YOU

WE MISS YOU GEORGE

COME BACK AND SAVE STAR WARS

>>87272850
You would think that billions of tonnes of metal being shipped towards some "unknown" part of the galaxy would draw some notice.

And to invest all those resources into one ship, what if when the ship was 80% completed the rebels discovered and destroyed it?

>>87292509
also, a random chinese guy with a random skill for a space ship or something, or maybe a random chinaman that just stands around as an assistant.

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>>87292428
vietnam are still a socialist nation today, clearly the us intervention didn't result in anything meaningful.

>>87292509
>>>/pol/

Why exactly is making everything bigger means its better? Why doesnt Kylo Ren, the son of Han Solo a legendary smuggler, make his Empire more compact and faster hitting like the rebels. They still couldve done Alt Death Star but make it smaller, it even can hit entire star systems like it did.

Last I checked, we made computers smaller, right?

So far the only difference in these movies is that they make everything BIGGER

>>87292571
>implying im wrong though
they did it to star trek

The TLS stuff looking like ESB is bamboozle. You're all going to be eternally btfo and true fans redeemed. You'll never be able to criticize our universe again.

>>87292664
did they? link

>>87292557
That's my point idiot. I'm just saying it wasn't "Vietnam vs the US". It was Vietnam vs itself with Soviet Union and United States backing different sides and, with retrospect, the US intervention being more desirable if it had succeeded.

>>87292593

The EU as retarded as it was clearly picked up on this.

The Imperial remnant because it was smaller and had less resources, started making smaller star destroyers and they had smaller superweapons like the Galaxy Gun that were just as destructive.

>>87292664
If you are offended by the existence of gays in the world and portraying them as people in retarded space flicks for babies, you should honestly just end it.

>>87292571
We're already on 4chan faggot

>>87292593
Everyone involved in the project is creatively bankrupt. Making everything a bigger rehash of the original trilogy is a lot easier. I mean, fuck, they're calling the good guys the Resistance even though they're the dominant power.

>>87292716
Faggots are mentally ill degenerates, fuck you for encouraging them you piece of shit.

>>87292764
>muh 50 year old meme arguments
0/10 bait.

>>87292761
The Aftermath books explain why the Resistance is different from the New Republic.

>>87292809
>current_year
sorry you can't suck cock and still pretend to be normal, not now or ever

of course the US would've been lauded for its efforts if there had been a more """positive""" outcome but the US were there for ulterior motives and not out of an obligation to help south vietnam. but we are seeing today even the US is criticized for almost all intervention it provides in foreign conflict, especially the middle east, even if the outcome is 'the west is """winning""" '

>>87292827
If it isn't in the movie then it doesn't exist.

>>87292846
Why are you trying this hard? I'm your only source for (you)s...

>>87292848
meant for >>87292686

>>87292827
So the shitty movies are supplemented with shitty books

>>87292863
Oh boy, we going to have this usual autistic screech-fest about what the word "canon" means, again?

>>87292890
The books aren't that bad apparently. But "wahh wahh everything sucks! Give me back Luuuuke!" Amirite?

>>87292716
i dont care about gays, but they've recently been rubbing their gayness in everyones faces, which i find is annoying. it's all over the place now. sense8 (i think thats the name) literally had a post op tranny have a wet sloppy toy fall out of its gaping wound of a mutilated ball sack turned vagina. and the recent 5 minute gay dance scene in narco wasn't really needed, they just added it for "look, this guy is hella gay, shock value".

>>87292872
Just sharing facts

>>87292898
Canon is irrelevant. If you don't have it in the movie then your movie failed.

>>87292923
Are you trying to make pasta?

>>87292953
>canon is irrelevant
Then you're retarded.

>>87292956
no

>>87292976
No, you're an idiot who watches too many interconnected Marvel movies and thinks it is is okay for things like this to not be addressed in the film itself.

>>87292976
if something has to be explained outside of your movie, then your movie is evidently incoherent and inconsistent which makes it bad.

>>87293012
>he's mad that the first part of a trilogy doesn't infodump 30 plus years of backstory
>this means that canon doesn't exist.
Thanks for reminding me that autists like you exist and how fucking stupid most Star Wars fans are.

>>87271541
I assume all the bigger shit is their subtle way of denigrating the original trilogy by making look less impressive. Like how they decided to shit on the prequels by cutting out all the senatorial scenes that were supposed to be in FA about how the new republic was going to deal with the First Order, because no one wants to be reminded about the political stuff in the prequels even though the politics was the only noteworthy thing about those movies.

>>87293071
>even though the politics was the only noteworthy thing about those movies.
Are you pretending to be retarded? The politics made no goddamn sense, added nothing and dragged the films down.

Kill yourself my DELLO FELLAGATE.

>>87293042
If you couldn't follow TFA then perhaps this television and film board is too fast for your speed.

>>87271703
>at-m6 drops mines
>weird speeders have a fin that drags up red dust
>first wave of speeders drag fins through mines
I fucking bet that'll happen

Star wars was humanities biggest mistake

>>87293126
Noteworthy does not equal good. Simply that the prequels were the first time governing politics appeared in Star Wars at all, which is noteworthy.

>>87293158
i could follow tfa perfectly, but it's obviously incorporating existential shit from outside the preestablished universe set in the original trilogy. prequels had to rely on video games and other books to fulfill its own shortfalls and inconsistencies. it seems a little too convenient to have just some random bullshit stories lying outside the movies for a reason to keep justifying their existence.

>>87293254
Or maybe the books have merit on their own and you're just being an autistic gibmedat for a trilogy that isn't even halfway over yet.

>>87293235
Indulge me, tell me what makes that "noteworthy"? Tell me your definition of that word.

>>87293306
im sorry you have to resort to insults to make it seem like you have a stronger argument than i have.

>>87293333
I don't need to insult you to prove that, bud.

>>87293363
but you did twice and you called the other guy retarded. seems like you've got nothing else. sticking to the topic, do you support the matrix's explanations of its shortfalls within the anime and video games?

>>87293331
>Tell me your definition of that word.
>of notice or attention; notable; remarkable

The politics in the prequels is all of this in part BECAUSE it's hilariously bad, as has been noted.

>>87293453
>do you support the matrix's explanations of its shortfalls within the anime and video games?
Yes. Since they merely expand upon the lore in constructive ways.
>mad that you called me a retard
Where do you think you are?

>>87279069
Im sorry George

>>87293533
constructive ways or lazy ways? it's an obvious tactic to try and rationalize some of the poor decisions they made within the films. not mad that you insulted me, i just thought it was petty because i considered us to be having an actual dialogue about something that both interested us and you resort to that.

>>87293593
It just seems like you are defaulting that every piece of expanded media of a franchise and canonically connected, is just lazy. The Matrix anime was pretty brilliant and had collaborative artists from all over the globe to flesh out the lore of the Matrix universe. It wasn't lazy.

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How did we go from a retelling of the simplest fairytale -but in space, to all this?

>>87292827
>yes goy, read the shitty licensed book to understand what is even going on in our movie
will I have to buy licensed porg plush toy or something to understand the ending of TLA as well? or will they just cut it alltogether and sell as DLC?

>>87293643
>you are defaulting that every piece of expanded media of a franchise and canonically connected, is just lazy
that is essentially my stance.
it's different to something like lotr where the the languages, characters and lore were all established even before the books were written to which the books were then turned into movies. nothing had to be written afterwards to define what was happening in the movies as the universe already had an established internal logic. to alter a movie's own premise to answer an unanswered question is, to me, just lazy or at least not using a lot of forethought.

>>87272850
>The Supremacy
>Snoke and Kylo Ren are white men

>>87279069
He should release a book series about his versions of the movies he would have made in Disney's place, change a few obvious names, call it unofficial etc. he did the same for the original script for New Hope, which was crap but interesting at least.

>>87293742
>"goy"
>it is a Jewish trick to sell expanded universe material.

>>87279069
Im sorry that I thought Disney could do a good job with the series.

>>87293790
I'll bet you 10 bucks that Snoke will say something about making the Empire great again

>>87293758
>to alter a movie's own premise to answer an unanswered question is, to me, just lazy or at least not using a lot of forethought.
Which again, was not even remotely the point of the Animatrix films.

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>>87293816
Just like the Trump alien in Rogue One?

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>>87272783
I think Lando was turned into two characters, the Laura Dern character who runs that Casino and DJ who propabaly betrays them. or maybe they both betrays them but only one changes his mind. Anyway more of the same. The cunts at Lucasfilm story group think they're so smart nobody will notice

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>>87270714
Bigger crimson guards

>>87280521
what are you even talking about? go against liberals in today's world is suicide for any kind of media.

honestly being genuine. how is "the supremacy" lefty baiting?

>>87293918
>go against liberals in today's world is suicide for any kind of media.
/pol/ actually believes this.

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>>87272850
>How new star destroyers should look like?
>Make it vertical

poetry

>>87293901
>>87293913
very cool

>>87293856
if wasn't already established, then that is what it did no matter what their intentions were. if the story hadn't been told, did it need to be told anyway? perhaps it's much more effective keeping the war with man and machines an ambiguous concept, a biblical event in the history of human beings.

>>87294000
So in your mind, any attempt to expand a universe outside of primary films, is always bad and lazy?

>>87294026
yes

>>87294034
That seems dumb to apply to all cases.

>>87294066
to generalise i understand is counter-intuitive but in my experience, augmented universes are always cash ins and don't have good intentions for the franchise.

>>87293961
can you name any explicitly right wing media from the past year?

>>87270498
More like chimpanzees desu

>>87293888
Trump alien?

>>87294098
I think the Clone Wars and Rebels series are good examples of supplementary world building.

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>>87271563
pic related.

>>87294102
Fox? Are you pretending to be retarded? Look, you aren't going to like this statement, but the reality of mainstream media is that there are competing agendas from a variety of political outlets. Everyone has a bias, it just so happens that "liberal" biases (in whatever degree) are more consumable and agreed upon by stastistically more Americans. Like how most of the country accepts global warming and you could spin that as a "liberal media" point from the perspective of fringe organizations who disagree.

>>87293805
You now manually remember the glorious window in time right after the Disney buyout when the all the bullshit in the EU was dumped.

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>>87271703
how can the rebels (first order) afford all this giant shit??

>>87294116
Before Rogue One came out, /tv/(nu-/pol/) was pushing this meme from a fake article that one of the aliens was going to be a riff on Trump.

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Imperial remnants had more sense than First Order

EU>Disney

>>87294192
sorry i meant like a movie or a tv show or something. obviously fox is right wing.

i'm not gonna touch on the rest of your post.

>>87272850
Hmmm where were these ships during The Force Awakens? Sure you can engineer and build this in 30 years? Why didn't Sheev's Empire used this?

>>87294212
God they should just said the empire won if they wanted the good guys to be underdogs

>>87294212
hello rato, let's talk about that watermark

>>87294263
>sorry i meant like a movie or a tv show or something
Nobody stops conservatives from making films, bud. It's just that nobody watches them. I guess Hacksaw Ridge? That has Christian undertones. But what are you asking for with "right wing" movies? Movies about fiscal responsibility? Idk what you want.
>i'm not gonna touch on the rest of your post
Probably because memes have rotted your fucking head so much that you automatically disagree with me but can't articulate why.

>>87294271
Goldmember sat on his ass the whole time in a secluded part of unknown space.

Probably with a lightsaber up the bum too,

>>87292240
>complains that its the same
>complains that its different

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>>87292535
no we really don't

>>87294400
huh? complaining about what being the same? what's different? who are you talking to?

>>87294323
>Nobody stops conservatives from making films, bud. It's just that nobody watches them
that's what i was saying you nincompoop. disney wouldn't want to lose money by being conservative sympathetic

>Probably because memes have rotted your fucking head so much
i think that's you man

>>87294454
>disney wouldn't want to lose money by being conservative sympathetic
Right...because that isn't popular, not because there is a secret society of elite liberals hellbent on silencing conservative media, kiddo.
>no, you!
I think we may be done here.

>>87294454
>conservative media isn't popular
>this is somehow everyone else's fault
Kek

>>87292827
Say what you want about the old EU, but at least it was its own thing and didn't impact the movies. Now everything has to be some sort of cinematic universe to coax more money out of idiots.

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>>87294425
>Lucas gave us Dexter Jetster
>JJ gave us Mazakantana

Lucas>JJ

>>87294540
Then don't buy it...

>>87273671
Bitch pls, /tv/ was hating on TFA before South Park did

>>87294557
>Unironically defending a fat alien cook from a 50s diner

>>87294559
Yeah, but if I don't buy the dumb fucking books, how will I understand the retarded movies then?

>>87294493
>Right...because that isn't popular
that's what i'm fucking saying you idiot. you immediately jumped to getting mad and trying to disprove some liberal illuminati shit.

>I think we may be done here.
enjoy your memes, anti-/pol/

>>87294530
>conservative media isn't popular
>this is somehow everyone else's fault
literally never said this. is it really this easy to bait liberals? i guess that's what was said in the original post anyway.

>>87294493
Why are you anti-white?

>>87294425
This is literally one of the worst ways to direct a heavily CGI informed film.

>>87294425
How did Disney manage to kill all of the creativity at Lucasfilm?

>>87294425
I can only imagine those guys working on concept art only to have this fat turd come around look at it for 60 seconds "nah try again i want next 50 samples by next week bye"

>>87294599
>that's what i'm fucking saying you idiot
No, it wasn't: >>87293918
>everyone who disagrees with me is a liberal
Work on your transparency you retarded faggot.
>anti-/pol/ memes
The fact that you think being "anti-/pol/" is somehow a pejorative, really is telling.

>>87294590
still better than orange yoda

>>87294593
Because the movies are not hard to follow?

>>87294599
>I PROMISE I AM NOT MAD ARRRRRGGGHH!

>>87294599
>he thinks he's actually "baiting liberals".

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>>87272850
>He's ship is literally caled (white) Supremacy

>>87294742
No.

man, they know that Star Wars is gonna sell no matter what, so why do they feel the need to rehash stuff from the old trilogy? Its not like they need to do that to make sure its gonna be succesful. If ever there is a chance to do some good writing, to come up with new worlds, new characters and new stories, this would be it. Instead we get the same shit again. Why?

>>87294847
brand recognition. what else? just watch the plinket star trek and star wars reviews, they're pretty concise and coherent videos on filmmaking, production, marketing, writing etc.

>>87294847
The hacks unilaterally decided that the worst thing to do was going "prequel" with different ships, more politics. So let's make the same ships, zero politics, not even a single line that would say republic and voila, that'>>87294847
a winning formula

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>>87293742
>Episode 9 is split into 3 parts in order to increase ticket revenue.
Screenshot this post

>>87294693
>>87294791
>>87294815
pathetic desu

Well, they will have these new spider walkers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpRQ_GvQdws

>>87293918
His brain is so rotted by populist politics he jumps whenever he hears the words 'white', 'supremacy' or 'left'.

> Le commies are after us!

>>87293664

(((Late-stage capitalism)))

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>>87293664
>OT is fairly tale in space
>Prequels are citizen kane in space

Sequels ???

>>87294624
? Explain

>>87295120
What a great argument. You sure showed me, retard.

>>87296038
>I don't have a specific artistic direction so take a dozen guys, work for 30 some-odd hours, and give me 3D renderings through sculpture of a character I may want.

>>87296068
I'm still confused
Are you saying modeling on computer is shit when you have no real direction or the clay things are a shit way to start when you're doing cgi after the fact Or that it sucks to do all this work regardless when your boss may just come in and say they all duck, start again.
I'm sorry for not totally picking up what your putting down

>>87296164
>Are you saying modeling on computer is shit when you have no real direction or the clay things are a shit way to start when you're doing cgi after the fact Or that it sucks to do all this work regardless when your boss may just come in and say they all duck, start again.
All of the above.

Main point was that you can clearly see how there is no real direction with the art depertment and creature design.

>>87296225
Aye
I do graphic design and Web development
How many times people say make me something "cool"
Wtf does that even mean

>>87295120
>getting btfo this hard

>>87296276
I used to do social media and advertising, we get the same types of vague "do (A), but better" requests.

>>87296051
>>87296283
more

>>87296309
Only difference I reckon us and them then is as frustrating as it may be the paycheck made it made it worth I would, I would hazard to guess anyways.

>>87296341
You realize you are talking to different people right? Do you have an argument or you just going to keep spouting retarded posts like an idiot?

>>87296389
Sorry retarded phone poster typos

>>87296402
keep it coming the thread is already on page 9

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>>87296389
>Only difference I reckon us and them then is as frustrating as it may be the paycheck made it made it worth I would, I would hazard to guess anyways.

>>87296423
We are on page 3 you dumb cunt. Get out.

>>87296443
I meant to say that as frustrated as Lucas art department may have been they got a good paycheck regardless

>>87296462
>Get out.
okay man. 1 more (you) and i'm out of here.

>>87276426
>turn entire north Africa and Middle East into a war torn shithole.
>Create ISIS.
>use literal slave labor in everything but name.
>ruled be rich as fuck caste that can do whatever the shit they want.

>>87296524
But hamburgers, guns and freedom!

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>>87292540
>You would think that billions of tonnes of metal being shipped towards some "unknown" part of the galaxy would draw some notice.

/sci/ here...

The most pissant planetary system in our galaxy has "billions of tonnes" of metal in it. At least.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16_Psyche

>16 Psyche is one of the ten most massive asteroids in the asteroid belt. It is over 200 km (120 mi) in diameter and contains a little less than 1% of the mass of the entire asteroid belt. It is thought to be the exposed iron core of a protoplanet.
>Mass: 2.27×10^19 kg (22 quadrillion tonnes)

>>87296524
>Create ISIS.
I will only disagree with this to an extent. Fringe extremist groups are a complex issue and it was the fault of a lot of different people.

>>87296618
>22 quadrillion tonnes
>exposed planet core
That's got movie plot written all over it

>>87296662
why are you being pedantic? the infrastructure to harvest and ship all that would still be fucking insanely huge.

>>87296633
The Baathist insurgency that paved the road for IS was almost directly because of America, but yeah the Islamic State is much more complicated than that.

I want space IS. That would be cool
Episode 9 should have giant robo Baghdadi

>>87294627
>How did Disney manage to kill all of the creativity at Lucasfilm?

Well they pretty much killed Lucasfilm, so there's that.

>>87296662
sorry meant to quote>>87296618

>>87296682
I didn't post the initial stat bro
I thought it was an interesting bit of obscurity
No pedanticity here bruh
And you're correct
No minor undertaking to build any of the empire's capital ships, let alone this Uber huge thing

>>87296769
Oh and I just posted this whole thing >>87296808
and even refrained from name calling

>>87296633

Without invasion and then Obama fuckups ISIS would never exist.

>>87296823
saying someone is being pedantic isn't name calling though? that is what you are saying right?

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>>87296682

You don't "ship" it...you set up your construction facility right next to the source asteroid and start building, with a fleet of Star Destroyers to protect it.

And anyway, Starkiller Base had way, way worse logistics...apparently the size of Earth's moon (3500 km diameter) vs 60 km...