/who/ - Doctor Who General

I'm planning on going to my local Doctor Who convention in March, and it's fucking crazy that they charge so much for photos. Peter Davison, Pearl Mackie, and Michelle Gomez are gonna be there (probably more too but the rest of the guest list isn't finalized yet), and it's forty bucks for one with Peter and sixty for Michelle and Pearl. I suppose it's just the con trying to make as much money but it's still ridiculous

>>87232611
It's like they never watched Oxygen!

>>87232611
There's a Who convention near me but every year I just forget to go to it.

>>87232471
>Catherine Tate and John Barrowman were >50 CAD
>Billie Piper was 60 CAD
>Matt Smith was 115 CAD

I still shelled out the dough, rip

>>87232676
How's your platonic roommate going?

>>87232676
>billie piper being more expensive than tate and barrowman

disgusting. does anyone know how much say the actors themselves have in setting the prices for these things?

>>87232676
>Matt Smith was 115 CAD
Jesus. I went to the same convention in either 2014, the first year they were doing it, and Sylvester, Colin, and a bunch of companions were there (no nuWho people though, not that I'm complaining), and it was only 20 bucks American for a pic with Sylvester. I was talking to a guy there while in line for a panel, and he was saying that he paid 200 dollars for a photo with Tennant and Billie at the Philadelphia comic con

>>87232656
Neo, if one of your "War of the Doctor" stories get missed in the anthology, I apologize in advance.

>>87232676
>"We wouldn't be here without you! We love the fans! You're the reason we do this!"

>charges $150 for literally two second of work

What the fuck? You'd think paying to get in to see these people would buy you a few seconds of their time to sign a photo.

It's disconcerting to think that people I admire are potentially greedy assholes.

>>87232875
You're not including one of my stories? How come?

Doctor Who is dead.

>>87232836
She wasn't originally more expensive, I think it's because she hauled ass that day to get there since her plane was late? I have no idea.

>>87232752
She gaves me roses, idk what that means? She also asked me the opinion on her bra, I dunno why she needs my opinion on that

>>87232867
>200 bucks for a pic with tennant and piper
SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT
They don't usually decide their own prices, the convention does. Smith was really cool, it was nice of him to doodle in my sketchbook. ...Techincally counted as a second signature because he signed that too, kek. The actors seem to not agree with the rules, you're only supposed to get one picture but if you let them take the selfies they'll do like... 20 for you.

>>87232901
Bruh they don't decide their own prices

>>87232875
1 fucking job gallifrey
now youre too over your head and might miss a story
wtf are you doing

>>87233005
How much of the money do they actually get from signing?

>>87232963
>>87232963
No, I plan to include everything. But I've been going back and forth adding in stories, and so I might accidentally miss one of yours.

>>87232901
It's not the actor that decides the price, it's the convention. That's one of the main ways conventions make money

Gotta pay the hotels and convention centers yo

>>87233061
Isn't your entire job to compile the stories? Why are you even doing it if you're qualifying now that you can't even manage to keep track of them?

>>87233061
Why Neo's specifically?

>>87233005
I was just checking the rules on the part of their site about photo-ops and it literally says you can't take a photo with them if you run into them in the hallway kek

>>87233061
fucking hell
can we please get him a babysitter

>Dr. Who
>Jesus was black edition

>>87233140
Fuck off back to infowars filthy boardie

>>87233117
>>87233120
>>87233134
>>87233026
Jesus you guys jump at every opportunity to harass Immigrant

from bean to cup gallifrey immigrant fucks up

>>87233167
I'm >>87233120 and I'm asking legitimately, I don't get why Neo's in particular are at risk of being missed.
Regardless, the solution isn't to apologise in advance, it's to double check and make sure it dosn't happen.

>>87233056
No idea!

>>87233131
Kek I have a feeling if you asked them they wouldn't give a shit though, they don't make the rules

>>87233167
How is it harassment? We enjoy Shit Trips. We don't understand why he's suddenly "missing" stories in it. What does that even mean?

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>>87233061
I don't really understand what you mean. "Missing"? Is it included or not? Just after some clarification f a m. Looking forward to the set!

>>87233167
he has one simple fucking job. one that shouldn't take more than a few hours. its been days and now he might lose a story. are you fucking serious right now?

>>87233211
>>87233226
>>87233268
>>87233271
He most likely just misplaced the link to the story. I'm sure if Neo sends it again everything will be fine

>>87233219
Yeah, no doubt, I bet they don't even get any significant amount of money from the photo ops

>>87233317
oh hey now that you mention it it could have been the VIRUS he got from STRAWPOLL.ME

>>87233226
Never mind.

>>87233268
It's all included. Just that you have 2 separate multi-chapter fics, under different Doctors. I'm keeping them straight actually, but I didn't want you to think it was intentionally slighting if I accidentally don't add one story to the anthology.

>>87233073
Conventions can be fun, but man if they aren't a black hole of greed.

And, typically, it is the venues and hotels behind it. They won't just want to milk every cent the convention makes, but also charge people an arm and a leg for a place to stay and to park their cars.

>>87232401
>That's totally false, though.
20 is the season where JNT just went "bringing back old monsters is inherently interesting" for most of it, and the writers just went with that as the remit. The only stories that really break that mold and do something interesting are Snakedance (which carries on the surreal pseudo-Buddhist themes from Kinda), Mawdryn and Enlightenment. Then in 21 Warriors is doing the Cold War thing, although it doesn't quite work out, Planet of Fire has a few interesting ideas about religious fanaticism, and Androzani of course is smart and political because it's Holmes. But throughout that there's a bunch like Arc of Infinity where they thought "Omega comes back in Amsterdam" was enough to base an entire story around without any deeper idea or significance, or Resurrection where it's just the "do I have the right?" thing again with a gun instead of two wires.

Do we have a MEGA/pdf for A Brief History of Time Lords?

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>>87233439
No worries dude. No slight taken, and I'm looking forward to the collection! Your framing story is gonna be gold!

f w i w I can repost all my links if that helps.

12/8 3parter

1, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rbcx_gJb4QnTNOyBt1-3RE7MM35TMJhXLR9nxnQLTpo/edit

2, https://docs.google.com/document/d/16rmfZ7-hKUBBO-pjAF3S7DBgshMT2ZmzEh-D_NuJtDA/edit

3, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h7rciZTmk41vCDUVN8Vbrpyd65K69rK6q1YKAj9l9ng/edit

misc silly story

https://pastebin.com/2r3aUEeF

War of the Doctor stories

https://pastebin.com/7UgHdDuy

https://pastebin.com/2pHuVLrL

https://pastebin.com/CY2XKBHX

>>87233486
In the book mega under nonfiction
(https://mega.nz/#F!AU4DHDwb!OSayDSboo27IvIYZ0GCCuw!YdwTxBJA)

So how did that one anon become the Black Manta to Immigrant's Aquaman

>>87233760
>says an idiot with an art degree
hows it feel to be 60 large in debt to be just as qualified to shitpost as the rest of the animals here with nothing else to show for it cuck

>>87233875
Aight

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Doctor Who is for homosexuals.

>>87233968
Was there any doubt?

>>87233968
I-is that Tom Baker and Douglas Adams?

>female doctor
lol

>>87234139
>human doctor
lel

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i have so many new paul pics

>>87234305
The year is 2067. Doctor Who has long since been canceled for a third time, and all of the classic Doctors have died many years ago. You stare at your computer with a smile on your face. "Finally," you say, looking at your recently completed collection of every existing photograph of Paul Mcgann, "I can now die happy"

>>87234768
> Implying they won't try to collect photos of Paul McGann's ghost.

>>87234803

>"Welcome, to McGhost Hunters"

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>>87234768
>>87234803
I feel like I'm being judged right now. Just getting that vague notion, y'know?

>>87234864
hey there's a lot of money in ghost-hunting tv shows. i just need to make sure not to let anyone know my ulterior motives for hosting one

>>87234923
Just making a little meme here, didn't mean for anything to come off rude

>>87235062
Oh, no no, anon! It's okay, don't worry. I laughed at it, and I certainly know it was all in good fun. You didn't come off as rude at all.

>>87234923
Can you look for the ghost of Matt Smith's career?

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>>87235096
Ah, good, I just have a tendency for over thinking these things

>>87234864
>>87234923
>>87235103
>tfw the Ghosts of Hartnell, Troughton, Pertwee, and Hurt are haunting the BBC roleplaying their Four Doctors script

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>>87235103
it's probably somewhere hanging out with all his hopes and dreams

>>87235220
No worries, anon!

>>87233485
>20 is the season where JNT just went "bringing back old monsters is inherently interesting" for most of it, and the writers just went with that as the remit.
Supposedly, but the Black Guardian trilogy focuses on him very little and the Mara and Master had both appeared last season (and at this time the Master was getting at least one mandatory serial per season regardless), so the only real legacy villain was Omega.

>The only stories that really break that mold and do something interesting are Snakedance (which carries on the surreal pseudo-Buddhist themes from Kinda), Mawdryn and Enlightenment.
If half the stories "break the mold" then what claim does it have to being the mold? And Arc of Infinity was trying to be about more than a Cold War parable that would have been cliche 20 years ago. Much like Mawdryn Undead, Enlightenment, and The Five Doctors, Arc gets into the idea of the foolishness of pursuing immortality and it also has the Time Lords wanting to kill the Doctor to prevent Omega from returning, which is kind of a moderately interesting dilemma. Terminus is anti-corporate and was supposed to have a whole Norse mythology angle that didn't really end up having any siginificance. There's also Frontios, about power struggles between a group of the last humans in the universe and has the TARDIS actually get fucking destroyed and The Awakening, which was something about war or history or something I don't really remember tbqh but I seem to recall it had something going on. Plus all the good serials you already mentioned. The ideas didn't didn't always work, but I don't think it's fair at all to say that the Davison era was unambitious most of the time.

>>87234923
Nah, I was just having a bit of fun.

>>87235274
>probably somewhere hanging out with all his hopes and dreams

Where do they think he left them?

>>87235741
Moffat personally murdered them.

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>>87235471
Just like with the other anon, it's all good. It was funny, I wasn't as offended/hurt/whatever as I seemed. I wasn't any of those things at all, actually, just very much amused. fwiw, apologies for the confusion!

>>87235741
Out back, in the dumpster.

I genuinely wonder why Matt hasn't been more successful, considering how well-received his tenure was on the show.

Why's McGann suddenly turned into a dick? I've just listened to Zagreus and Scherzo and he just seems like a complete asshole all of a sudden.

>>87235939
Terminator Gensys terminated him

Also pride, prejudice, and Zombies, that was a movie that got made

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>>87235967
He was great in P&P&Z. The only watchable bits really.

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>>87236035
>that nose

>>87235967
I admit, I haven't seen either of those movies, but I wasn't aware they were so bad as to be career-ending. (And apparently Matt only had like a minute of... well, non-CGI screen-time in Terminator? Huh.)

How long did it take for you to realize that Purves wasn't pronounced as "pervs"?

>>87235939
Matt had a sizable part in The Crown, which is constant work for him and a lot of exposure. Though I'm sure he wished he had gotten a part in something like Star Wars of Fantastic Beasts (he was probably second choice for Newt Scamander if Redmayne turned it down) he seems to be more of an experimental actor who wants the ability to perform in new plays.

He was promised a bigger role in future Terminator movies but that franchise revival was DOA. Which sucks for him.

He was also in a movie with smirkfu that appears to be on the shelf. I wish he was more of a hit but he's still working.

>>87235967
I personally watched Genisys when it came out in theaters and I thought that it wasn't half-bad.

It would've been great if the trailers didn't spoil the twist though.

>>87236409
True enough, and he's still a fairly big name even if he's not gotten a lot of "huge" roles lately. He's still pretty young, so I'm sure things will pick up for him in the future.

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>>87236358
Until just now.

>>87236461
Yeah I checked out that Ryan Gosling-directed movie he was in, he was good but he didn't have much to do.

He's great in everything I've seen. He hasn't broken big time yet.

>>87235781
HOW COULD HE

>>87235939
I have no idea, Tennant's been getting tons, and Smith is brilliant. Maybe he'll get something soon...?

>>87236689
It's Steven "Abuse Your Power" Moffat. How couldn't he?

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>>87236739
>what i did, i did without choice. in the name of peace and sanity

>>87233942
It is a weird trip, I know there are other trips with degrees but they hardly brag about it. Who brags about a graduate degree lol

>>87235939
I don't know why so many /who/res act like the Crown doesn't exist, yes he'll only have been in Season 1 and 2 but it's a fairly prestigious show and he's the co-lead

>>87236409
This. Eddie Redmayne's emulation of him, both in manner and costume, was kind of awkward in that new Potter film.

>>87237120
We should be proud of our achievements, anon.

>>87237184
I don't act like it doesn't exist, though I admit wasn't aware of how popular it actually is. I don't think anyone thinks Matt's career is legitimately dead, though. He's talented and doing well for himself as is.

>>87237286
Didn't mean to sound snippy! I enjoy the Matt's career is dead meme too, just sometimes I think people truly think it's dead and it really isn't, it's just not super amazingly alive.

>>87237184
Agreed with everything here.

Matt Smith is a fairly successful actor who on top of everything is actually really great.

And he's one of the best Doctors. Stop shitting on Matt Smith, /who/

>>87237285
It's just weird. A bachelors isn't particularly impressive. A Masters or a Doctorate is impressive, although even then someone naming their tripcode after one would be a douche move. Why not have named yourself "Cover Anon" or "Art Anon" or something? There's being proud of your achievements, and there's randomly broadcasting them to the world at all times in an offputting way. Naming your trip after a bachelors degree is the latter.

@Neo Cloister you've mentioned you've graduated right? How come you don't brag about it?

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>>87237345
No worries, Neo, it's all good! You do have a point, though. Sometimes people end up believing the memes.

>>87237380
>Stop shitting on Matt Smith, /who/
Hey, in my defence, my playful ribbing is born of love! He was my first Doctor, I'll always have a soft spot for him.

>>87237380
He has some upcoming work that looks interesting too. And definitely one of the more nuanced Doctor portrayals under his belt. Really enjoyed his performance.

>>87237406
Yeah I got my bachelors, then did an honours year of research work afterwards, then went into work.
Why would I brag about it lol

>>87237483
Some of the memes about Cats, I don't know the irony starts or ends

>>87237406
> A Masters or a Doctorate is impressive, although even then someone naming their tripcode after one would be a douche move.
If someone on /who/ actually had a PhD I'd fully support them having "The Doctor" as their username.

>>87237406
I'm sorry that my chosen name is very off-putting to you.

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>waiting for shit trips be like

i miss capaldo, raxim, and simmchad. seems only robbmcoy and nilso stuck around :(

>>87237589
your attitude and posting style is off putting as well. dont sell yourself short

>>87237870
I apologize for that as well.

>>87237870
You wouldn't even care about that part if not for the fact that he was posting with a tripcode.

>>87237826
Simmchad is Neo though

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Everyone stop what you're doing and admire this image.

>>87237981
Is that a ukelele?

>>87237981
Aha, that's cute.

>>87237981
But did he play it

>>87235447
>If half the stories "break the mold" then what claim does it have to being the mold?
Actually I shouldn't have listed Mawdryn as one of the stories doing a lot of new stuff, cause I've just remembered it spends a lot of time reminiscing about the Brig, complete with clips of old stories when his memory comes back. You are right about the Master, though, he actually turns up like a bad penny multiple times in 19 and 20.

What I mean by "the mold" is the basic goal of making the season a big 20th anniversary celebration - there's nothing actually wrong with that, it's just decided to make stories largely about revisiting the past of the show for a while, rather than use Doctor Who to talk about things outside itself in the way Kinda or Sun Makers or something like that, which is a very specific type of ambition. (And not necessarily one everyone even enjoys).

Like, the relationship between Kinda and Snakedance is a less extreme version of the difference between the two Peladon stories, where the first one was weird and interested in Big Issues, but the second one just kind of reheated the ideas from the first in slightly different form.

But then, I'm replying to two-hour-old posts with ghastly run-on sentences, so it's very possible everything I'm saying is rubbish.

>>87237981
whoa

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>>87238018
Looks like a guitardis to me.
>>87238027
isn't it?
>>87238091
Someone on twitter said that he played a guitar that he signed for a fan, however that was unattached and separate from this particular picture, so /who/ nose?

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>The relationship between a Time Lord and his TARDIS is infinitely complex, and frankly..... i-it's....... private.
what did he mean by this

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>>87237978
Remember your reaction when you found that out? ahaha

>>87237981
Awwwwwwwwwww

>>87238342
>Like, the relationship between Kinda and Snakedance is a less extreme version of the difference between the two Peladon stories, where the first one was weird and interested in Big Issues, but the second one just kind of reheated the ideas from the first in slightly different form.
I'm a massive fan of Kinda, and you're bang on the money.

>>87238485
I think we both know full well what he means.

>>87238485
you are now thinking about that squidgy bit you stick your fingers into on Capaldi's TARDIS

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>>87238720
OH NO ANON

>>87237981
I'm gonna miss him.

>>87238485
He fucks the TARDIS

>>87238595
I was a passenger on your ruse cruise

>>87238720
"It's a bit sticky, Doctor"
"Whoops, I thought I cleaned that"

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What are your honest thoughts on this man and his jeans?

>>87238901
I'm more interested in trying to decipher the deeper meaning behind his t-shirt.

>>87238901
That's a neat shirt.

>>87239012
It's a t shirt

Thread theme: https://youtu.be/3tmd-ClpJxA

>>87239174
God her music went downhill.

>>87239174
What's with the 'sitting in the tub and singing' trope in music videos

>>87239221
>>87239284
you two, and anyone else, redpill me on your thoughts on taylor swift. relate them to doctor who if possible.

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>>87239392
I quite like some of her earlier country stuff. Then I liked a few tracks from Red. Only a few though.

In 2014 I was working at a music store, and 1989 was on constant rotation, Luckily, I really liked that album (it's not as good a pop album as something like E·MO·TION, but it's still good and fun), so hearing it 100s of times didn't bother me too much. I hate that new single and the whole approach she's doing now so oh well.

Uhh kinda like Doctor Who in that I enjoyed their 2014 output, and they have different eras?

>>87239519
>In 2014 I was working at a music store

*scribbles furtively in handbook about trips*

>>87233140
Jesus was brown tho

>>87239221
it was never good

>>87239803
You of all people should understand tacky taste in music ;) ;) ;)

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>>87239392
I dislike her as a person, but I enjoy her music. That new song is an exception, but even then after a few listens, I don't... hate it.

How can I relate this to Doctor Who? ok uhhh, songs for every doctor/companion romance ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCyerNjAXP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNzwDGowebo

and then a sad one for good measure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzhAS_GnJIc

I have a bad habit of relating songs to fictional characters.

>>87239840
i don't listen to a single bad artist

>>87239392
Neeeh I don't have much of an opinion on her because I don't really listen to her music or pay attention to her as a person

I like one or two or her songs

Where is the Doctor Whore image ?

>>87239914
Hey, no need to get your claws out kitty

>>87239875
I miss Fearless Taylor.
What sort of music do you regularly listen to? Intrigued by your fictional character/song habit.

>>87239954
They're all on the wiki

thread theme music

https://soundcloud.com/bhadbhabie/bhad-bhabie-these-heaux

(this is by the cash me outside girl)

>>87239954
I miss the Doctor Whore poster

>>87240008
>These Heaux

Cats: >>87239914
Also Cats: >>87240008

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Scaroth reporting in.

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>>87239977
>What sort of music do you regularly listen to?
A huge range of stuff, really. I wish it were possible to just link you my iTunes library and let you see for yourself. If I had to pick favourites, though, I can give you a bunch of songs for an idea of what I listen to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_kTCDqtnm8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JbeyWN1DhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgZOp41qxaI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4_wXPZ1Bnk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GYhPrPRQt8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ht80uzIhNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrk9bLgKHYk

I didn't intend to link so many. There's... a lot more than that, and one song I couldn't link because it's so fucking obscure that there's no lyrics or uploads for it anywhere.

>>87238342
>Actually I shouldn't have listed Mawdryn as one of the stories doing a lot of new stuff, cause I've just remembered it spends a lot of time reminiscing about the Brig, complete with clips of old stories when his memory comes back.

To be honest, Mawdryn Undead feels very confused as a story. It's as though it wants to try something new, but it also wants to be steeped in nostalgia and continuity.

In the end, it just leaves me baffled as to what they were trying to achieve. Although still not as baffled when Nyssa and Tegan mistook Mawdryn for the Doctor.

HAHAHAHAHA
https://twitter.com/ScifiWales/status/904108002357149696

BIG FINISH WILL DO ELEVENTH DOCTOR BOXSETS WITH JAKE DUDMAN (GUY WHO MADE 11TH DOCTOR IMPRESSION IN GREAT CURATOR FAN VIDEO) AND NOT WITH REAL MATT

HAHAHA

https://youtu.be/fAY-tgKr52s

>>87240513
Ooh I like the 80s vibe of that first song.

>>87240935
What the fuck

Matt's literally said he would do them https://youtu.be/52aSutmfTBg

>>87240967
>Said he'd do Big Finish

thank christ, I felt so dumb when I forgot to ask him this on friday

>but nobody has asked him

what the hell, big finish, get on this

>>87240967
matt probably wanted too much money for them. to pay for his rampant cocaine addiction

>>87241016
They're the ones not asking him

Methinks some Briggs foul play is involved

>>87240935
It's probably just a cameo or an audiobook narration.

jake DUDman
sad!

We need to email Big Finish insisting they hire Matt

>>87241158
They will read and respond to [email protected]

They have a separate email for sales-related stuff, enquires is the one for general stuff like asking them to do things

I've emailed them a few times about different things and they're always polite and fairly quick to respond

>>87241158
>>87241192
Hold up though. They never actually said what they were casting him in.

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>>87240935
>mfw leaving the video open in another tab and listening it like an audio story

Huh.
So when are we all pinching in enough money to hire them for a /who/ audio?

>>87241264
Yeah, he's clearly a talented voice actor and as much as he can impersonate Matt fairly well, they're hopefully not bringing him aboard in lieu of the real deal.

>>87241264
True, and I doubt it's as 11 since Briggs is already playing 11 in https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/the-eleventh-doctor-chronicles-1630?range=125
But I think some people are reacting to >>87240967
where Matt reveals they hadn't even asked him
However that was a few years ago so who knows what's going on now
E-mailing them can't hurt though

>>87241311
Yeah they have fuckin Briggs for that!

Is there any way to 'dislike' tweets? Cause Christel has a Twitter acount

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Ahhhh, the greatest feast of all! THE DOCTOR!

>>87241369
I think if you go in the "more actions" tab, you can pick "I don't like this tweet", but all it does is show you less of that sort of thing

>>87241424
BRRRRRAAAAAAAAPPPP

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AGHHHHHHHHH HE BROKE THE CANE

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I'm sorting through all the audios I want to listen to, and I'm getting kinda overwhelmed by it all. I'm new to who ear stories in general, and there's such an insane amount to catch up on, I feel as though I'll never manage it.

>>87241323
I wonder if Briggs is any good at 11's voice. Probably not.

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ELTON PULL

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GIVE YOURSELF TO ME

Any way to check if the Christmas special is going to be in cinemas? I realized last year a cinema near me had a screening for HoRS, but I was not able to make it

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RUN ELTON

>>87241570
I'd just concentrate on one Doctor and line. I wouldn't try and sort out a whole "Monthlies, EDAs, Dark Eyes, Doom Coalition, then blah blah blah" plan at first, just get through the monthlies, then look at what's next and go on, or don't.
Some people like picking and choosing more too, but I'm not sure you're the type!

>>87241311
Yeah. I just don't want to believe they'd intentionally snub Matt like that, or think that some guy doing impressions was a big deal.

Also, unrelated, but I checked Big Finish's twitter out of curiosity and just learned they brought back David Warner's Doctor from the Unbound range and put him in the new Bernice Summerfield audios. I guess that's cool.

Do you watch anime guys

--->>87241618
>>87241643
>>87241644
>>87241734
ANSWER TO ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>87232963
Because they're awful

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Hey, wait, if the Doctor Who announcement at Scifi Wales was about Dudman, that means Matt Whelan's "sources" were wrong about it concerning the relocation of the DW Experience.

>>87241618
If it was going to be, they'd make it known, or there'd at least be an article somewhere, but I can't find anything as of yet.

>>87241644
Yeah, I'm just gonna focus on Eight's stuff, I think. Really my main thing was that I was interested in the Gallifrey audios for Braxiatel (I've read a few short trips stories and stuff that included him, and I'm pretty interested in his character) and then I found out he was in the Bernice Summerfield ones, and that there's like... a huge amount of those. Became bit of a snowball effect, really. But, just gotta put it out of my mind for now and I'll consider where to go once I've worked my way through Eight's audios in their entirety.

(And, heh, you're right. If I'm going to get invested in something, it's all of it or none at all, really, which is why I'm currently having this dilemma about the audios.)

>>87241734
I highly doubt they'd snub Matt just on the basis that getting him back for the audios would probably net them far, far more money than an impersonator ever could. Presumably, anyway.

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>>87241763
>>87241774
Fine. Here's your (You.)

Now SPACK OFF.

>>87241736
No. I mean I'll watch Ghibli movies, but that's pretty much it. I don't usually like animation.

>>87241734
Yeah the last Benny set had that, and the next will too, it's pretty damn cool.

>>87241873
>Whelan's sources wrong
Woah

>But, just gotta put it out of my mind for now and I'll consider where to go once I've worked my way through Eight's audios in their entirety.
Yup this is the way to go. I've been listening to audios for like 8 years and have barely made the slightest dent in their overall output, there's no point trying to plan too far ahead i m o, it just gets overwhelming.
I think it's more or less feasibly impossible to listen to the entirety of Big Finish's output, and that's not even counting the fact new stuff comes out all the time too. Narrowing it down to stuff like "8's audios" then however long later when you get through them, going "Brax audios" or whatever tends to work best. But YMMV, some people do it differently.

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>>87242149
Yeah, I think, with Doctor Who in general, and the amount of content it has, it's hard to attempt to consume it all, and you certainly can't do so in a timely manner. Latching onto a favourite and only moving on when you're done seems to be the only way to not get utterly overwhelmed. Too daunting a task to be done in any other way - at least for me.

>>87241873
>I highly doubt they'd snub Matt just on the basis that getting him back for the audios would probably net them far, far more money than an impersonator ever could. Presumably, anyway.

That's probably true. I just wonder why they'd bring in Dudman if not to do an impersonation.

>>87242149
> Yeah the last Benny set had that, and the next will too, it's pretty damn cool.

I'm glad they're doing something new with Warner's Doctor, even if the Unbound range is pretty much dead.

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Oh it's a comin

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Clom, yes.

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>>87242466
It's canceled.

>>87242716
why

>>87242633
It was actually funny

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Snails return.

>>87242732
Gallifrey was deleted.

>>87242858
for deleting stories?

>>87242887
No, he opened up Straw Poll.

>>87242911
oh shit, virus????

>>87241736
Yeah. And I'm ashamed because most anime sucks, but I've usually got one show I keep up with per season.

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GI RN

>>87241736
Yeah, but only a select few. I don't much care for the current-ish slew of otaku demographic targeted stuff that assumes that dipping their toes into the "culture" makes it interesting automatically.

>>87243204
Which ones do you like?

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The virgin vlogger
The chad narrator

>>87243223
Well, my favorite anime is Lupin III. But I also like Cobra, Big O, Giant Robo, City Hunter, etc. I also got my hands on Giant Gorg, Sherlock Hound, and Dororo recently and I have plans to go through those eventually.

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>>87243396
>watch Babelcolour video
>suddenly hear Dee
I wonder just how deep she is in that Doctor Who iceberg.

>>87243448
>watch Babelcolour video

12th Doctor tribute fucking when

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>RTD

Hey, Neo. Who are your favorite writers of all time? Not just from Doctor Who, but you can include them too.

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>>87243652

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Next showrunner coming through

>>87243723
Flattered that you're interested! Favourite dead writers would be Dostoyevsky and Shakespeare, favourite living writers would be McCarthy and Auster, in terms of lit at least. Favourite Who writers would be Shearman, Moffat, Whitaker, Cornell.

>>87244155
>a Mondasian Cyberman
>in a picture for normal people

Looking back on Torchwood, I think first two series were great. Children of Earth was great drama, but s1-2 nailed that "urban legends" setting. Cottingley Fairies episode, random time travel episode, underground weevil episodes, cannibals living in countrycide episode. I love this shit so fucking much. When Torchwood tried to be epic and imitated earth invasions - aka s1 finale it looked silly and just wrong, but urban legends were fantastic.

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>>87242807
I've made over two-thousand steaks...

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>>87244430
>Where are we going?
>Into darkness
>Where are we?
>...darkness

>>87244366
Hell yeah, Dostoyevsky's the fucking bomb.

>>87244390
I wonder if Chibnall had a plan for any of the plot threads he introduced like the undead tarot girl, Bilis, or why Jack's brother became an asshole. It seemed like those moments were supposed to add up into subplots seasons in the making, but they got dumped immediately after Children of Earth.

>>87244457
goat

>this bitch isn't even attractive
Posting images of this ugly whore is like some Soviet Union era propaganda. What about her is so special? That her face isn't covered in zits and she has fake blond hair? She's not even allowed to be sexualized so I am staring at a bland woman's face, that says nothing, symbolizes nothing, and evokes zero emotions.

>>87244767
What are you referring to?

>>87244793
The oft-posted picture of Jodie's face I assume.

>>87244728
That reminds me I should get some doughnuts for the Twin Peaks finale

>>87244810
Oh. She is attractive though so I don't get why he's whining.

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>>87244767
Here's your (you), now go.

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What's his name again?

>>87244841
Her tits aren't out, therefore unnattractive.

Why is /who/ still up? What are you doing?

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>he's a tits guy

>>87244914
Uhh...that one guy from the one okay Gatiss story.

>>87244940
It's only 19:30 here!

>>87244940
>Why is /who/ still up?
It's late morning/early afternoon in Europe.

>>87244946
Joke's on you, I'm only sexually attracted to question marks.

>>87244990
>>87244993

Oh shitto, whatcha doing?

>tfw its 4:36 here and havent sleept

The Writer's Tale is so fucking kino

>>87244932
There is nothing attractive about her.

She's a middle-aged washed up actress, has fake blond hair, copious amounts of make up and is dressed so snugly you can only see her face. Her face by the way, is nothing special. I knew girls at school prettier than that by a mile.

>>87245059
Cool.

>>87245059
Which women do you find attractive, anon?

Is there any good fan-art of Thirteen?

>>87245059
t. underage

>>87245088
Same as most people, pretty face, nice hair, nice body. The first Matt Smith assistant whose names escapes me, actually Matt Smith had several hotties with him.

>>87245132
>assistant

leave

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>>87245028
Great read. Even not in the context of Doctor Who, it's a super interesting look at procrastination and motivations behind creativity.

>>87245017
Rewatching some Twin Peaks in hype for the finale tomorrow

>>87245114
>when you grow up you stop being attracted to women, I should know!

>>87245140
autism

Don't engage with the boardie guys, it'll just lead to nasty shitposting

>>87245059
>An unironic "oogleh" poster

>>87245147
Is that show worth watching? What is it about?

>>87245174
I never said she was ugly, she's just unremarkable.

Would I say the other doctors were ugly? Maybe, that didn't mean they were just bland. They all had their quirks. And you could tell just from the actors they were at least remarkable. Even Matt Smith, for being an obvious appeal to the tumblr audience had that whole caveman furrowed brow look going on.

This bitch? Nope, not getting anything at all, other than her being a cunt.

>>87245108
>Is there any good porn of Thirteen and shotas*

Fixed that for you.

>>87245211
How is she a cunt?

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>>87245108

A personal favourite.

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>>87245108
Rachael Stott's sketch of her is rather lovely.
There's plenty more drawings out there, though, and many more elaborate than this one, too.

>>87245229
I mean she is a woman. Just using colorful language, meant no offense.

Reminder not to respond to Kris Marshall

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>>87245174
Hey lym... are the rumours true?

>>87245208
It's my favourite show. Hard to explain. It has a few different eras, there are 2 TV seasons from the early 90s, a feature film and a companion film from a bit later in the 90s, then another "TV" season from this year. They're all pretty tonally different. All from the director David Lynch, of many great films. It starts out as a murder mystery in a small American town, but spirals into being a much more surreal look at duality, between conflicting desires in a person, between the appearance and the reality of a town or a family, and so much more. Very much not for everyone, and very much not like typical TV.

>>87245211
>Would I say the other doctors were ugly?

Maybe, but I'm certain you wouldn't call them ugly whores.

>>87245316
Matt Smith was a whore, and honestly I'd say his face was ugly too given he had the look of a homo erectus.

It's a given that this new actress gave some blowie to get ahead in her career.

>>87245229
She doesn't seem to care about or respect the show or fans

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>>87245342

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>>87245255
The rejection from Chibnall really hit him hard. Poor sod.

>>87245342
yeah, the last straw was when she literally filmed herself taking a shit on a caves of androzani dvd

>>87245352
>flat chested
>ayy lmao face
>cleft chin
>fat nose, clownish eyebrows
so beautiful and daring and bold

>>87245314
>A companion film from a bit later in the 90s
are you talking about the Missing Pieces? because that was only released a few years ago, and is comprised of unused footage from Fire Walk With Me

>>87245314
What are your other favorite shows?

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>>87243448
>killing yourself when your doctor regenerates so you can both go out together

So, capaldo then?

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https://twitter.com/drwhozone/status/904118006221074433

Apparently the DWE is actually being relocated, and it'll have Jodie's new TARDIS.

I really hope it's something like this one I'm sick of the squarish new series one

>>87245371
So that's why Peter left Twitter.

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>>87245403
Yes, originally I explained it was released later in parenthesis, but then thought that would be a bit overwhelming when I was just trying to explain the basics of what the show is to an anon unfamiliar with it.

I would sooner call The Missing Pieces a companion film rather than just "deleted scenes" or "unused footage" though, although I recognise you could argue the point, and I think in reality it's a kind of hybrid. But I think they form a distinct, and surprisingly coherent, work. Lynch put a lot of work into the editing and release of them, he didn't just dump them as "BONUS MATERIAL".

>>87245405
Doctor Who's a given, although my mind doesn't really jump to it when I think "TV show" because for me Doctor Who is equally audios and all that stuff too.
So apart from Doctor Who and Twin Peaks? Mad Men, The Leftovers, The (early) Simpsons, Hannibal, Summer Heights High, The Wire, and on and on. This year and last, I've really enjoyed The Young Pope, American Gods, and Westworld.

>>87245388
>He's not seen her nude roles

>>87245536
Always wanted to watch Twin Peaks. Has this season/series been any good?

>>87245536
You should give Preacher a try if you haven't

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>>87245581
Opinions vary of course, but for me, it's been astonishingly brilliant. Real great culmination of Lynch's career. If you get around to watching it, just be mindful of the fact that the three eras of the show (the two 90s seasons, the film/s, the 2017 season) are very different, especially in tone and focus. They all build off each other though.

>>87245590
I haven't read any of the comics, but I really liked season 1, and am waiting eagerly for season 2 to finish so I can binge it. Have you been watching s2? How is it?

>>87245456
I've been saying this for ages - no way would the BBC lose the chance for the revenue that the DWE brings them by opting for perpetual storage.

>>87245674
Season 2 is weirder in a good way. Its a longer season so some episodes feel a bit filler ish but the second half of the season is perfect to me

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>>87245856
Awesome, I'm keen

>>87245882
>>87245882
Hi Keen, I'm Awesome

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>>87246062

neo

>>87246399
dubs confirm

Explain to me the concept of a proper fan of Doctor Who

neo talk to me

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>>87246494
What's up? What about?

>>87246399
>>87246494
what did you mean by this

@McGanon you will appreciate this, if you haven't read it already, http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_unnecessary_TARDIS_Data_Core_pages

A particular favourite: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Penis

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>>87247200
I've read it, but I swear every time I look at it, there's a new stupid thing on it I didn't notice before.
>blurry shrek poster briefly shown in an ep
>f-fuck, lads. we need a new wiki page, STAT
nice

>>87247224
I feel oddly proud that two of the three citations on the actual page for that are from the EDAs.

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>>87247327
>it's a "people say Charley 8's first romantic companion" episode

The idea of Paul McGann joining Holby City still feels less plausible than Chibnail casting McGann as the series villian. :-( I'm scared he'll do Strictly Come Dancing next year.

>>87247224
>cats casually popping into the argument and namedropping john wiles
Kek I really wasnt expecting that

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>>87237380
>Claire Foy nominated for practically every lead actress award going
>Her co-lead Matt Smith barely nominated for anything

I feel kinda sorry for Matt, he was probly hoping for Emmy glory.

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>>87247486
Be scared. When it comes to McGann's current career choices, don't hope. Hope is a terrible thing on the scaffold.

>>87247490
kek that got me too. Everything's connected!

>From the intellectual, high concept drama of Wiles' era to the gritty, dark VNAs, Doctor Who shows a wide spectrum of adult material, all of which is covered by this wiki.

>>87247529
How do we "fix" Matt Smith's career?

>>87247486
How do we "fix" Paul McGann's career?

>>87247529
Matt is never going to be the leading man in anything good ever again. Nothing to do with his acting ability, it's just his face looking weird.

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>>87247397
those people better watch themselves

>>87247486
I mean, as much as part of me would be dismayed by the concept of paul on strictly, you can bet your fucking britches that I'd be tuning in every week.

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@lymerence please make this a 'spongegar' meme

>>87247653
You might want a better quality image for that.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log?page=User%3ACats12&type=block

What did cats mean by this?

>>87247692
>edits found at sperm
o-oh...

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>>87247653
>>87247686
Does this help?

>>87247397
I mean, the TV movie alone is enough to prove them wrong.

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>>87247736
>different frame

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>>87247565
Oy, leave ol Footface alone!

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>>87247749
Yeah lol, that's what kind of gets me with the Fitz/Charley arguments.

>>87247782
Better?

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>>87247692
>>87247709
This is what he meant by the looks of it

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>>87247749
Grace was wonderful. I'm sad we never got to see more of her, honestly.

>>87247831
It's really when people say Rose was the first companion with whom the Doctor had any sort of romance, but in reality it was Grace. Long-running companions, on the other hand... well, Charley or Fitz. Doesn't really matter which was first, I suppose; they're both great. (I don't know a huge amount about Charley yet, though, since I've still not progressed far in the audios just yet. But, soon!)

>>87247973
k e k

>>87247973
Why revert the edit when Cats literally wasn't wrong?

>>87247973
>was

>>87248054
Looms are canon, sex is a thing of the past.

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>>87248010
The actress comes back in some of 8's audios, but not as Grace of course due to those annoying rights issues. I think an anon told me there's a comic with 8 and Grace though.

I know nothing of Fitz really except for his Company of Friends story, but I know pre WarDoc people used to more often like the idea that 9's jacket was his, or at least an homage to it

I'd say you'll love the Charley stuff, which I'm, 99% sure you will, then I remember everyone used to say I'd enjoy Lucie and her stuff so much, then I was disappointed when I turned out to not really enjoy that, so ymmv. But some of the best Who stories are under the 8/Charley era no doubt, even for folks who didn't like her heaps.

>>87247531
Maybe we just overestimate McGann and all his comments about the art of acting and what constitutes quality storytelling over the years was just to make us weak at the knees, when in reality he's just a bum who doesn't care what he does? Or he has a gambling problem and is on the verge of bankruptcy.

>>87248163
Missing: tearful emojis.

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UNJUST

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>>87248436
one is in front and the other is behind

>>87248436
One is one of the most beautiful women on earth and the other is Jenna Coleman

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>>87248508

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>>87248010
>Grace was wonderful. I'm sad we never got to see more of her, honestly.
She was supposed to be in Vampire Science but whoever holds the rights for the TVM in the USA (Universal or Fox) didn't let BBC Books use her, so they replaced her with an original character.
She does appear in a couple of DWM comics, the funny thing is that DWM got to use her because they didn't even ask, and when the americans found out they just told them not to do it again.

>>87248501
>>87247653
>>87247831
?

>>87248531
Why are the seppos so clingy over her?

>>87248558
I'm not lowering myself to that level of memery my dude

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>>87248588
I'm gonna attempt it if you don't, and that's not gonna end well for anyone

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How's my meme guys?

>>87248558
Fuck knows. Somebody from Big Finish said that it's very hard to get the rights to her and the other TV movie characters because of how they are co-owned by different companies.
She did appear in IDW's Prisoners of Time series a few years ago though, so it shouldn't be impossible. Unless IDW got away with it like DWM did.

Blimey, Shada gets off to a slow start. Sharply written, with a fine performance from Tom Baker, but incredibly lethargic.

Every Doctor Who story should have linking narration from an in-character Tom Baker.

Do you class Adam as an actual companion?

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>>87248133
>pre WarDoc people
Eh, there's nothing stopping that idea even with War as part of the line-up. I mean, when you think about it, Eight goes on to wear a leather jacket in Dark Eyes, then War wears one, and then so does Nine. Fitz's influence spreads, it would seem. (I think in one of the EDAs - though not one I've yet reached - Fitz gives the Doctor his jacket, and from descriptions it sounded as though the Doctor never handed it back, so... Maybe he kept it in the TARDIS all that time.)

A few EDA spoilers here (but no plot ones): Fitz is a kinda odd "romance," in that you could technically debate whether it was one at all. But only if you closed your eyes really tight and did your very best to ignore all the flirting - even from the Doctor's end - and the kissing and the references to Eight loving Fitz, and Fitz quite literally outright stating that he's in love with the Doctor, etc. etc. That all sounds like a lot, I know, but you'd be fucking surprised at the amount of people that jump through hoops to say they were only ever just friends. Same sort of people that tried to say Karl's attraction to Eight was utterly unrequited in The Year of Intelligent Tigers, even despite the author outright stating that their relationship was very much romantic and, uhm. Physical. Things were probably more subtle and less in-your-face than, y'know, Rose's relationship with the Doctor - although, I'd argue that that's in part because things ran a bit deeper with 8/Fitz, beyond the sort of doe-eye schoolkid romance that 10/Rose felt to be at times - but that's totally predictable given the social climate at the time of publishing. In the grand scheme of things, it wasn't that long ago, but attitudes have changed massively over the years. I still think the romance aspect is pretty clear, though. I'm sure some might argue, but, eh. I know what I've read with my own two eyes, and I trust that above all else.

NO SPACE, fuck.

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>>87248133
>I'd say you'll love the Charley stuff, which I'm, 99% sure you will
From what I know of her (and her relationship with Eight), and what I've listened to so far, I really like her already. I'm certain she won't disappoint, because she does seem lovely.

>>87248531
I assume she would've taken the place of Carolyn McConnell in Vampire Science? Makes sense, really. I enjoyed the book as-is but having Grace in it would've made it even better. She really had a lot of potential, it's a shame to see it sort of wasted, I suppose.

>>87248653
absolutely disgusting, 10/10

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>mfw the best doc was almost the best bond

http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/842907/James-Bond-Doctor-Who-Paul-McGann-Eighth-Doctor-Pierce-Brosnan-Daniel-Craig

>>87248703
I love, love, love the linking narration version. Headcanon it as the Curator himself in a kind of metafictional state if you want to really get wild.

>>87248677
Are there people who seriously just rat out her usage?

>>87248729
No, and I think companion is used too broadly in general, but it's not really a big deal. I could swing the other way in the argument if pushed. Not that I usually swing both ways by any means.

>>87248736
Good point with the jacket. I can't specifically remember the scene of 8 putting one on in Dark Eyes but I remember there is some sort of scene about it.

>but you'd be fucking surprised at the amount of people that jump through hoops to say they were only ever just friends.
I'm 100% used to that with Doctor Who fans. Nothing wrong with it I guess, it strikes me as pretty weird honestly but it's up to them, and I suppose the character did seem functionally asexual for long enough that people have strong opinions. Seeing the McGann movie when I was like 5 normalised Doctor romance for me I guess lel.
Rose/Doctor was pretty clear, even though they barely touched, but ya know, even in NewWho, we have spirited debates on what...well, I mean, there's romance and there's romance, there's complicated stuff, but you try and start a conversation about 12 and Clara in the Cloisters and it's hard to get where you're going without people jumping and things. Anyway um yes. 11 lacking sexual chemistry with like, everyone, yet still getting loads of romance stories, was also a thing.

>>87248858
He'd have been interesting, the way he likes to snarkily underplay lines would have worked well with the role

Why's McCoy so inconsistent in his audio performances? You get stuff like The Rapture where he's a screaming, gurning mess or Unregenerate where he just gibbers like a madman and delivers his lines like runny snot. Then suddenly he sounds amazing again in stories like The Harvest. If it's a problem with his acting range not being able to hand screaming hysteria then why do BF keep making him act out scenes like that?

>>87248858
And now he's in Holby :-(. He was second choice for Robin Hood too, iirc.

>>87248962
I assume it's a problem with the direction. He's not like McGann who will consistently kind of brute force the scripts to work for the style he wants for 8. You gotta whip McCoy into the shape you want a bit more, can't expect him to just coast from the script.

>>87248962
>If it's a problem with his acting range not being able to hand screaming hysteria then why do BF keep making him act out scenes like that?
I think that's part of the problem, but I have a sneaking suspicion that he used to put less effort in his performance if he didn't care for the script. He was always good in the more well-written stories like The Fearmonger, The Fires of Vulcan or Master.
Anyway, he got more consistent around the time Briggs took over as producer.

>>87248957
I assume Moffat got the idea of The Curator from the Shada linking narration, which is such a glorious bit of hardly-anyone-will-get-this fanwank that even if it isn't true, I'm going to pretend it is

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I rarely agree with Sandifer's approach to the audios, but he articulates something I've found as well, quite well here:

>If one wants to try to classify Doctors, one could do worse than dividing between leading man Doctors and reactive Doctors. McGann ends up in an odd place. Because his debut came out of the American cult television model he got cast firmly as a leading man Doctor to start. And that’s not what McGann seems interested in.

>Back in the TV Movie post we talked about how he’s visibly more engaged in the audition tapes than he is in the TVM. Yes, the audition tapes were off of the dreadful Leekley script with its father issues, but in those scenes he’s getting to be reactive. The scenes are about him being told information, and while they’re fundamentally about his character, they’re about his character’s reactions as things happen, not about his character taking charge and doing things. It’s when he’s put in the straight leading man role of the TVM that he visibly gets bored, because he doesn’t seem to want to flounce around being the hero.

>This makes sense. The reactive approach is the larger acting challenge, and is one of the things that makes the Doctor unique as a role: the fact that he's reactive and the hero. Unfortunately, McGann is mostly on his own in wanting to play the part that way.

>But in Storm Warning he starts to find a way to subvert that, continually underplaying lines or adding a sort of bemused detachment to them that plays more towards a reactive approach. The script, again, doesn’t quite know what to do with him here. Nor could it - Alan Barnes is necessarily writing for generic Doctor here. (It’s telling that two of the first four Eighth Doctor audios are simply adaptations of stories written for another Doctor). But it’s an interesting aspect to McGann’s Doctor.

>>87249195
That would be a great question to ask him actually

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>>87248858
>brosnan breaks into mcgann's home and shits in his kettle
fuck sake can the man not have a rest

>>87248957
My first introduction to Doctor Who was through new!who, so the romance was normalised right off the bat for me. I think, in terms of things like 12/Clara, it's debated so much because it was deliberately left ambiguous. I mean, of course, you can make very strong arguments for one side or the other, but primarily, I suppose, the reason that the majority can't seem to conclusively land on one side of the debate or the other is because that sort of reaction was almost... intentional, by deliberately not letting us know what was said in the cloisters. Frustrating, I suppose, for those that feel strongly about one side or the other. I admit, I would've been content no matter what it had turned out to be, if not ambiguous.

And, yeah. 11's uhh... romantic proclivity was certainly something. None of his romance stories worked for me. River Song, for one, could've had much more charm overall if she'd actually been paired with a Doctor that she had any sort of chemistry with (a.k.a. 12).

Also, as for Fitz, I think the controversy with him goes a little bit beyond the usual, with the fact that... well, he's a man. You know how people can be. It's one thing to have off-hand references to guy's the Doctor's kissed, or even to have Jack plant one on him, but it's quite another to have that sort of romantic tension with a long-running, very much male companion. I mean, Doctor Who in general has always been very forward-thinking and accepting, but y'know, even it has its limits. Or did. They're certainly not so harshly imposed now. Nowadays, I suspect a same-sex Doctor/companion romance wouldn't be quite as much of an administrative mountain to climb. tfw 8/Fitz will never exist, on-going, in a social climate that would've welcomed it with open arms. instead fitz gets a shitty, out-of-character excuse to boot him from the TARDIS. kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QG4n3-rKTs

This worthless video has 160 times more viewers than The Doctor Falls did

NuThread when?

>>87249621
>this worthless video
what? you don't like kinder surprise kino? get some fucking taste, anon

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>>87249579
>you can make very strong arguments for one side or the other
That's a thing too, I feel like people try and box stuff in too much, not everything is either 100% platonic or 100% romantic. There's so many types of relationships and love in life. I wonder if Doctor Who ostensibly playing for kids affects this too...obviously a 30 year old is gonna have a better handle of a complicated relationship than a teenager, let alone a child. Well, good thing with the books/audios/etc is they can play right to the adult a bit more.

>It's one thing to have off-hand references to guy's the Doctor's kissed, or even to have Jack plant one on him, but it's quite another to have that sort of romantic tension with a long-running, very much male companion
I hadn't even thought of that. Naive of me.

>>87249621
>>87249693
m f w I remember Americans can't have them

>>87236409

I doubt Matt had any interest in appearing in Fantastic Beasts desu. He left Who to avoid getting typecast as the "eccentric old professor in a young man's body" type, and Newt was exactly that sort of role.

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